She's living proof that if you ever try pandering to LGBT, eventually they will hate you.
>>151046608Sex with Dana
>>151046608QRD? I don't remember hearing about Dana getting into the same trouble Rebecca and Noel got into with the Concrete and Sow controversies.
>>151046608It's a good lesson for everyone, hopefully she continues to progress in her career.LGBTQ stuff has become so culturally fetishized and entitled that no amount of representation will ever be enough and even the stuff the demand more of today they would turn on immediately if it ever became the norm.Anytime you mandate, standardize or incentivize diversity of any kind you make it tokkenistic by default thus invalidating its legitimacy. The monetary incentivization of DEI and ESG by private equity firms is most likely a scheme to radicalize progressive ideology maintaining an escalation of the "Culture War" in younger generations which were increasingly becoming more and more left leaning. It's no coincidence that the the big push for DEI/ESG mandates in 2014/15 came directly after the Occupy Wallstreet movement, because there is nothing the rich fear more than a Class War. In fact it was the infiltration of toxic woke elements that largely co-opted and destroyed the Occupy Wallstreet movement. Keep the stupids preoccupied with a Culture War and you can continue to rape and exploit the free market erroding the middle class to its current almost non-existant state.
>>151047970same, I have no clue what people are talking about
>>151048454This. Looking back at some shows from the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's, and 2000's (I'll limit this to /co/ shows to stay on-topic), the representation push was handled no where near as clumsy and lazily at it has been since the 2010's rolled around.Say what you will about certain stuff from back then like the Burger King Kids Club, but other stuff like Super Friends (mostly OC's, but whatever), Fat Albert, The Real Ghostbusters, GI Joe: ARAH, Josie & the Pussycats, Mister T, Jonny Quest, GoBots, Captain Planet, Bravestarr, The Magic School Bus, X-Men '92, Avatar: TLA, and Horseland leaned into representation while still allowing those characters to make mistakes and learn from their mistakes. Certain episodes may have touched on certain topics (Fat Albert's "Double Cross" episode and Horseland's "Heritage Day" episode), but those didn't bludgeon viewers over the head with those characters gender and race as badly as a 2010's CW show, nuShe-Ra/Steven Universe/The Owl House/etc., or an LGBT-pandering Marvel/DC pride comic.
>>151050201*as it has beenAlso, the older /co/ shows I mentioned may have been products from begone eras (a few were even "30-minute toy commercials"), but at least those show fetishize its representation as egregiously bad as recent stuff. There were also way fewer "Urkel" inspired black characters and it also helps that social media didn't exist to distract showrunners in ways in which their unfiltered social media ramblings could backfire and derail a show, movie, or comic (e.g. Zelger, Velasco, Felker-Martin).
>>151050410*those shows didn't fetishize and tokenize its representation as egregiously bad as recent stuff
That's not her problem, the problem is she does all of that while solely using what she makes as therapist-core vent art about how everything sucked and her parents sucked and society sucks and Disney sucks(the only thing she's correct on).
>>151046608The lesson a lot of people learn after a while is that the LGBT crowd hates everyone. Ever spend any time around them and you will notice that they are perpetually miserable, negative assholes that spend 90% of their day being pissed off at something or talking shit about someone. Most of their conversations are complaining. If there is no one specifically to complain about then they are happy to stand on a street corner and talk some shit about every single person they see passing by. Everyone is bad wrong and evil to them. But they love kicking out members of their special in-group and then getting to work really hating them most of all. They complain about the people they used to know more than anything else.
>>151047970>>151048454Her new show has a female protagonist who’s so untraditionally female behaviorally and aesthetically speaking that audiences immediately decided she had to be trans. Dana shut this down very adamantly, and her viewerbase is pissed she wouldn’t let them have their “trans rep that was right there”. I think internet trannies are genuinely autistic and conform to gender roles so hard they’re fucked up when it’s just a girl character who isn’t being girly. Being trans is a deeply unprogressive read of gender roles if you think about it.
>>151048454There is also their weird mindset that anything from before is always bad. Anything that came before current year is from the evil racist, misogynist, phobic "Before Times" and must be evil. Because before Current Year, everyone was evil and wrong, everything made was evil and racist, no one had awakened to being progressive just yet, and everyone was entirely mask off villainous. So any validation or progressive project made in 2017, will inevitably be considered to be evil and toxic by 2027, since it simply MUST be! It was made back before anyone anywhere was progressive and any cultural victories were ever won!
>>151050201No one admits or even knows that the representation push was handled pretty soundly in the early 00s in the first place. There were way more shows with black, minority, and female leads than in the 00s. Lots of series were a full rainbow of diversity with maybe 1-2 white kids among the large cast.
>>151048454>hopefully she continues to progress in her career.yeah no it's not the fags' fault that she's a boring hack
>>151050544>Being trans is a deeply unprogressive read of gender roles if you think about it.I've been saying this unironically for years.
>>151050537It seems like trans folk seem the biggest haters than other groups.
None of you remember just how hated old shows with representation were. You just think it was fine and accepted because you were children at the time. Nothing has changed, only the people who get angry about nonsensical shit.
>>151050537>claiming LGBT are the big complainers>in a thread complaining about representation>on a board infamous for how fucking circlejerking it isEven if that was true, read the room
>>151050596They call this the permanent revolution, the perpetual ingratitude is by design
>>151051589Yeah, everyone made fun of this but you have youngsters unironically wishing for every show to be the BK club
>>151051449"LGBT" means trannies and "nonbinary" idiots more often than not
>>151051449Yeah pretty much. They are incredibly angry bitchy assholes that spend most of their time talking shit or complaining about someone. It's fucking weird to see how they remain perpetually mad all day and night.
>>151051589I recall it was made fun of more than outright rage induced hatred. Most people just made fun of the happy happy get along rainbow gangs that always included a wheelchair kid. They were mocked on the same level as Care Bears or annoying G rated Disney shit.
>>151051627Not to mention the fact that this website draws narcissists who take offense to the existence of anyone who isn't them like wasps to jam, and they love complaining about everything for complaining's sake.
>>151051589ragebait YouTube channels have been around for a little over a decade at this point, you're interacting with people who have no firsthand experience with any of this shit and believe "well, they used to do it better back then" solely because their based YouTubers have said that.
>>151046608https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8G4xrYfWmw dana terrace is a straight up babe. i mean is it even legal for one human being to posses that much raw sexuality? she is seriously smoking hot, like she should be on magazine covers bent over the hood of a sportscar in a skimpy, exotic-looking swimsuit. why do other girls even bother when dana exists?
It really depends on how you appeal to shit.Thing about cases like this is that it always happens, not because they made a show appeal to LGBT, but because they decided to position themselves a certain way on Twitter by acting smug and self-righteous about people who weren't 'with the program', those darn dirty uneducated problematics.When Lindsay Ellis got her cancellation, a bunch of creators (many of whom were center left like AltHistoryHub), were asked what they felt about it and if you read their responses it always boiled down to them having to say>Well, she uh, sorta courted a certain kind of audience who she shouldn't have courted.No one could say "She deliberately set herself up with a Twitter crowd who loved using politics to posture moral superiority for a dopamine hit by doing the same thing and couldn't fathom that such an audience would turn on her"
>>151046608>Disney cancels TOH for being "too gay">Disney censors a Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur episode and a Win Or Lose character for being trans>Rejects Neon Galaxy by Molly Knox Ostertag for trans mcs>Disney orders a anime with boys as mcs to appeal to the fujo audienceWhat did they meant by this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6K9xUt-EvQ&pp=ygUSdHdpc3RlZCB3b25kZXJsYW5k
>>151050544Interesting. Kinda reminds me of other crap that happened within the past couple years like that outrage over Wolfsbane being attacked by a group of humans who realized she was a mutant, that outrage over "What If" Miles was Thor in a ghetto Asgard, and the flak DC caught this past summer for its Pride comic.In that case, I hope this serves as a grim reminder on how fickle groups of people can be, especially loud, vocal, terminally online groups. One minute, they're showering you with praise over something you said or did. A minute later, they'e showering you with condemnation and death threats over something you said or did.
>>151051589It wasn't much, but I did say the following about some stuff like Burger King Kids Club in my earlier post here >>151050201>Say what you will about certain stuff from back then like the Burger King Kids Club, but other stuff like Super Friends (mostly OC's, but whatever), Fat Albert, The Real Ghostbusters, GI Joe: ARAH, Josie & the Pussycats, Mister T, Jonny Quest, GoBots, Captain Planet, Bravestarr, The Magic School Bus, X-Men '92, Avatar: TLA, and Horseland leaned into representation while still allowing those characters to make mistakes and learn from their mistakes.One thing I didn't bring up in that post that I'm in agreement with is that seemingly obligatory wheelchair kid. Transformers '84, Denver, the Last Dinosaur, and that scrapped western-animated Sailor Moon all had one kid in a wheelchair much like that Burger King Kids Club. While their hearts was in the right place, something about that kinda felt mandated or even honky after a while.
>>151046608>Don't expect loyalty from people who aren't even loyal to themselves, and who are visibly willing to toss anyone under the bus for their goalsfucking shocker.>>151053542yeah the Pelswick guy fucking hated that shitback then, 'representation' was harmless annoyance, that the actual groups hated. it wasn't destroying anyone's lives or indoctrinating any kids (spoilers: kids already didn't hate people for race or disability.)
>>151050544What's the new show, and this new character?
>>151053578Whose life is being destroyed by two girls kissing? Lmao get a life faggot
>>151046608Owl House is SHITKoG is garbageDykena is a retard and a hack. This tard deserves all the hate she got.
>>151051718Wheels is the best, he's even got a spin off with the legman.
>>151046608Pandering in this case means having any non straight characters.
>>151051750Yeah imagine if they started a forum around pointless shit where they bitch and moan all day. Ridiculous
>>151047457Gross.
>>151051718Boomer is my wife AMA
>>151053842>Hey guys I found the triggered troon
>this thread 40 posts of a nothingburger attempt at dramaKys kiwitard
>GUYS EVERYONE IS MAD ABOUT THIS THE LGBT ARE TURNING ON HER!!!>where?>......WELL YOU KNOW I BELIEVED IT HAPPENED AND THAT REALLY SAYS SOMETHING YOU KNOW? Cool thread*shits all over it*
>>151050596But anon, YouTube essayists told me /co/ stuff has ALWAYS BEEN WOKE. I mean, they had a girl character who wasnt a damsel in distress 100% of the time, that must mean they were all for letting trannies in womens bathrooms. They would lie to their audience and themselves would they?!
coomers won the culture war
Would
>>151053842Didn't bluesky users start bitching at the CEO of their site and demanding her removal because she was poking fun at them for being, "you like pancakes so you hate waffles" types? I think that's different from 4chan in huge ways.Anyway, when people on your quadrant are writing books, essays, reports and making decisions based on the concept that everything needs to be political, silence is violence, and centrists or people who vaguely disagree with you are evil fence sitters who are basically Nazis, you can't really use the "lmao why do you care so much" argument imo.
>>151050201the entire diversity uptick has been a huge money laundering scheme where people in HR/decision making places got swindled into believing they were doing something no one ever had before by doing the exact same shit but worse while paying someone to twitter spell check it
>>151046608A handful of underaged and unemployed retards on shitter don't represent a whole class of people. One would think OP would know this considering he sucks dicks for breakfast
The only representation igaf about is sister kissing!
>>151057343only with me in the middle of that wincest sandwich
>>151053355>One minute, they're showering you with praise over something you said or did. A minute later, they'e showering you with condemnation and death threats over something you said or did.This is the "JK Rowling Phenomenon", some tend to forget it, but Rowling is one hardcore leftist author, and was celebrated for years due to inclusion (including but not limited to: Gay Dumbledore, Black Hermione, etc...). However, she disagreed with one particular thing and she instantly became "Numero 1" in her progressive fans' hit list.The special thing about Rowling is that she stood her ground (to the point it almost becomes her identity, kek), let's see if Dana does too.
>>151050544>autistic males with porn addiction and paraphilias turn out to have very sexist views of femininityWow, what a shocking revelation. Who knew?
>>151052176Anyone who hasn't noticed that there's a crisis of competence in the American entertainment industry (Hollywood, AAA games, comics) has the sensory abilities of Helen Keller.
>>151053355>Wolfsbane being attacked by a group of humans who realized she was a mutantWho's Wolfsbane? ...and isn't that what Marvel civilians do to mutants?
>>151047970>>151048818Basically she got deaththreats on bluesky like "She needs to get Charlie Kirk'd" because a character she made wasn't trans. It just so happens that nobody is actually on bluesky so the drama didn't blow up.
>>151057735Do you have some screenshots, cause it sounds hilarious.
>>151050596>>151055159I wonder how many kids who fall for the propaganda even stop to think about the inherent doublethink..
>>151051449>Hang niggers and kikes talking about anger issues.
>>151046608Pretty much. I think its because of a huge amount of narcissists and the secret competition of being in animation.
>>151057906Yes, you should kill yourself and you don't deserve to exist.
>>151057958And I wonder why they reply with so much anger.
>>151053610Knights of GuinevereFrankie
>>151046608Good god, did she hit the wall or did the wall hit her?>>151057906People hate you as a result of your repugnant behaviour. You are so deplorable that even women and the lgb are rallying against you.
>>151058195I love that Frankie gets to basically live the Disney adult dream in this show
>>151058440You don't even know the argument. That was not the point.
>>151058195beautiful
>>151051589Don't see anyone hating G.I.Joe, C.O.P.S., Beverly Hills Teens, Mahou Tsukai Tai, Dinosaucers, M.A.S.K., Cadillacs and Dinosaurs, Dungeons &Dragons...
>>151057857Never? Or else they would not fall for the propaganda so easily.
>>151053355>In that case, I hope this serves as a grim reminder on how fickle groups of people can be, especially loud, vocal, terminally online groups. One minute, they're showering you with praise over something you said or did. A minute later, they're showering you with condemnation and death threats over something you said or did.The lesson learned is that the loud vocal terminally online groups are going to be mad no matte what because that is why they are there in the first place. They are mad and they are going to search for something to bitch about. They want something to bitch about, they don't want a cultural victory. They are angry shitty people who WANT to complain and see themselves complain. A victory does not really affect them, and it was never their goal to make some amazing change for the world. They are just shitty angry people who want to complain about someone and ruin their day too.
>>151053355>>151060669Thing is their goal is to punish someone they don't like. The goal was never to make the world a better place or make some kind of positive change. They wanted to hurt someone or something all along. Achieving a cultural victory was not the point and that's why they never care when one happens. They want to harm someone they designated as bad.
>>151050544Frankie's fucking hot, as a buff dumbshit tomboy worker and the only argument tumblr had was BUT FRANKIE'S A BOY NAMEThey're livid that Dana had no trans rep in this like that's a birthright or something
>>151057542Well Rowling finally reached her breaking point and saw a line in the sand she was just plain not ever going to cross. She was willing to throw bones to the masses and say Hermoinie might be black, Dumbledore is gay, Harry might be Indian, etc. She was willing to retcon in some current year things but she got to the point where she stopped. Thing is, the terminally online twitter addicted progressive hate squad does not allow for someone to disagree with them on any single topic at all ever. Everyone must be an absolutely perfect 1:1 full agreement on every single topic or else they will be outed as the secret false flagging evil chud nazi hiding among their ranks who was always knowingly evil. The other part was that the internet revolutionaries made Trans people into the new most sacred cow around 2016. NO ONE is allowed to speak ill of them in any way for any reason, there is no such thing as a single trans person who is bad or can do bad or break a single law ever. They are the group that can do no wrong no matter what, anyone that begins to breathe a word about any single member is the mostest evilest person that has ever lived.
>>151050544>Her new show has a female protagonist who’s so untraditionally female behaviorally and aesthetically speaking that audiences immediately decided she had to be trans.Haven't they done this for the last 10 or so years now?
>>151048454>the the big push for DEI/ESG mandates in 2014/15 came directly after the Occupy Wallstreet movement, because there is nothing the rich fear more than a Class WarHeadlines about the 1% disappeared almost immediately to be replaced with headlines about -isms
>>151052869>Rejects Neon Galaxy by Molly Knox Ostertag for trans mcsAnd not its total absence of story material to work with, hmmm
>>151050544Her troon fans are still a minority. All this is doing is radicalizing her female LGBTBBQ fans into realizing that troons are actually retarded
>>151060872And thank God for that
I think it's absolutely insane she apologized for it. I had seen the backlash when it happened and didn't know there was a reply at the time. I had thought, "Oh, okay, based on all these screenshots, Dana is not replying to anyone so I'm betting she's growing sick of these people and going to just ignore them. Give them the Angry Video Game Nerd treatment. Ignore them, they'll go away, then the crazies will forget about her and she'll be able to interact with more sane fans".But no, curiosity got the best of me and I checked her BlueSky. She apologized, disabled comments for this post, then pretended like it never happened. All she did was guarantee that she's going to have to encounter these people again. She should've skipped the apology and went right to, "It never happened" stage.
>>151060872It's funny because now there is awareness and growing distancing of the T group as the rest of the alphabet squad is realizing how much power and overreach this minor's minority has been given the past few years.
>>151060949She's too lib for that, she genuinely thinks she owes them an apology for their feelings getting hurt
>>151051627>U GUYS COMPLAIN TOO HURP A DURPNobody gives a fuck when people on 4chan complain. Nobody apologizes to upsetting people on 4chan. They mock anyone who uses this site. Half the industry disavows this site and says it's a racist hellhole while the other half secretly uses it because they don't want to be mocked by the first half. For all the offensive jokes and slurs, this site is still far more usable and sane for a cartoon discussion than anywhere on BlueSky. And yet, people like Dana are far more willing to apologize to the crowd for the latter while telling the former they're all losers who should grow up and stop taking cartoons seriously.
The problem is that you're pandering to a group that keeps changing their own rules and meanings constantly, they have a huge infighting problem where what one side considers good the other will consider an aberration and they're constantly policing each other and putting anything less than perfect as not good at all, so you can't ever really please them as a whole, you're safer just dangling representation behind the readers' own interpretation than outright exposing it
>>151050201People will look you dead in the face with no hint of irony and say that pic related is absolutely no different than Hey Arnold or Recess.
>>151060949>"I think seeing her as trans is awesome">"it's an absolutely valid and awesome interpretation"Sorry, but what a gigantic load of crap.It is so obvious she's just trying to appease the mob, I can't help but wonder if any of them believe it... or, fuck, if she herself does.
>>151050201What I don't understand is that back in the day, we KNEW a lot of that stuff was lame. Kids in the 90's made fun of Captain Planet, Super Friends and Fat Albert. They made fun of them for being cheesy and sometimes made fun of it for the textbook inclusiveness. PSAs were universally mocked on the playground and that's why there was such joy when shows like Rocko, Ren & Stimpy, or Powerpuff Girls had parody PSAs where they just beat the shit out of each other or something absurd like that. What makes these adults think that these very same things that they saw as lame when they were a kid is exactly what modern kids want to watch today?
>>151060949>I see the connection when people talk about itOh? Elaborate, Dana. What's the connection? Please go into detail, Dana. What is it about Frankie that it totally makes sense for transwomen latch onto her? I'm very curious to hear what else you have to say about the matter!
>>151060978I believe it’s a clear-cut case of “give someone an inch, and they’ll take a mile”.
>>151061433>pic relatedkek.But yeah, Dana is clearly talking out of her ass in a desperate attempt to put out the fire.
>>151060949What if I said that my interpretation of Luz and Amity is that they’re an obvious example of straight girls confused by their social situations and past traumas?
>>151060786A lot of people tend to overlook that Rowling was in a abusive relationship. Because of that, she has a hard time seeing men dresses in dresses as women.
>>151061586>she has a hard time seeing men dresses in dresses as women.That's everyone, actually. The only people who do see that have been brainwashed and conditioned to.
>>151054937>>151054954>>151061048HE'S SEETHING HE'S MALDINGHE'S CRYING TO JANNYWHOOOOOOAAAAAA BUDDY
>>151048454>>151050544The online trans community is honestly pretty fucked because they are the deepest in the victimhood for social capital hole.By that I mean historically the trans movement has leaned the hardest on Victimhood for social relevance and sympathy within the attention economy of social movements. Basically the main trans acceptance tactic in the west has been to say "everyone hates us and they are killing us constantly, please feel bad for us and help us" even when the data doesn't back that up. Read chapter 5 of the book Unlivable Lives that data is there.While this has been effective it also fosters a culture of intense paranoia and fear in its members, meaning that for the average autist pulled into these spaces, they will receive a lot of surface level positivity from within the community and are told that everyone outside of it hates and wants to kill them. In essence turning vast swaths of the community into cult tier Siege Mentality wherein anything that isn't constant reinforcement of their existence is an implicit dig against it.TLDR The trans community psyop'd themselves into a bunch of paranoid sctizoes by for decades now using only their victimhood to gain social clout in the intersectional discourse.
Woah, are you telling me if that if you affirm the delusions if mentally ill, porn-obsessed young adults who are terminally online and addicted to drugs and on four different kinds of SSRIs, they become unstable people? Wow, I wish we had some kind of study for this. I could've never known all those elements put together would be bad. We'll never know for sure unless we do 15 more years of research.
>>151061678Agreed.I'll add a theory I've had for several years. Until the modern culture war arguably began (2016-ish) Most transpeople just wanted to be a TRADITIONAL opposite gender, date their previous gender and live under the radar, attention was the last thing they wanted. Then when the culture war began a bunch of white guys had their brains broken with guilt that they were white guys and became 'trans' so they could be martyrs as well. Suddenly trans support meetings were flooded with these loud, militant, ugly creeps who were just trying to hook up with other trans-lesbians and bitch about how their lives were awful because society hates them. TLDR: That Red Hood trans writer loves that she can say she got fired 'for being trans' and will milk that rancid teat forever.
>>151061678>>151062929>>151063039>>>/pol/
>>151061678That someone can have a political career based entirely on shitting on them helps.
>>151046608Nope, only trannies. The homos are never the ones involved in hate campaigns over petty shit.
>>151063039Or they became the easiest target to blame so your leaders don't have to improve anything in your life while you think not having "trannies" in your bathrooms will make houses more affordable.
>>151063039>>151061678I'll have to disagree in some areas and concur on others.Well, okay so you talk about like, the transbian stuff right? The stereotype was that the average MtF was out to score with lesbians. Yet from what I've seen most of them are bi-sexuals who mostly hook up with each other and gay dudes even when they identified straight before their transition.And you'd think that was some kinda prison gay scenario but no, I knew multiple self-identified lesbians who went FtM and the moment they did they basically went cock-drunk.And this is sort of the thing that bugs me about them because I went and looked at the data out of curiosity and yeah, the transition is heavily dependent on and influencing towards the sexuality of the person in some capacity.But like, you'd never even hear this kind of data from the online transgender activist space entirely because the "identity" aspect feels like it borders on a weird or spiritual aspect to them that they can't even be bothered to link the fucking science they want everybody to educate themselves on so badly.In terms of the online activists, they'd actually rather shoot themselves in the foot on helping society understand them because simply linking that shit, in their minds, is an "I don't have to prove myself to you!" situation.
>>151061048>Nobody gives a fuck when people on 4chan complain.That's because everything on 4chan can easily be summed up as an empty shitpost instead of genuine concern or opinion. >this site is still far more usable and sane for a cartoon discussion than anywhere on BlueSky. I'd say it's about 50/50. A discussion on BlueSky boils down to whether or not it's trash because of how inclusive the show is. A discussion on 4chan (If you can even get one going that is) boils down to how woke the show is and whether or not the villains are fuckable. Both sites are basically varying flavors of tumblr and I'm tired of pretending they aren't.
>>151063308People say this about 4chan, but shows like Steven Universe or The Owl House will STILL have actual discussion threads and not just 400 replies of, "WOKE WOKE WOKE TRANNY TRANNY TRANNY". I'm not saying that doesn't happen, but if I make a thread right now about how Rose Quartz is a poorly written character, I will actually get a ton of replies that are relevant to my message. There are some shows that are undiscussable because of "woke woke woke", like Paranormal Park or The Proud Family reboot, but the more popular shows can actually get genuine discussion threads. The bigger problem is that way too many of these threads devolve into waifu posting. After like, two decent KoG threads, all the other threads just turned into posting sexy fanart of Guinevere with a dash of Frankie.
>>151063039>she
>>151063119Yeah but the point is that by creating a community where the first principle is saying "We are being killed" for decades as the only way to make people care about you instead of showing how your a productive member of society or have the strength and organization to fight back if pushed, creates unhealthy and socially maladjusted headspaces which will jump at both shadows and real threats alike, and their are infinitely more shadows than real threats.
>>151064021To add on and put it another way, people have been complaining about the right crying woke and white genocide at everything, but the trans community has been doing the same shit since the 90s and how has that worked out?
>>151064021Thing is, you can't just swap that out for something else, especially something like a utilitarian argument, is ludicrous. Allow me to demonstratePeople with Down's Syndrome. In the bluntest of terms. They are useless.Literally a bunch of intellectually disabled, emotionally unregulated, usually fat deadweights whose very existence can only be sustained by society taking care of them at little to no benefit to itself.You can put a wheelchair bound person in an office job but we keep people with Down's syndrome away from workplaces in general because we have deemed their very minds to be useless if not detrimental to society.It's absolutely true to say society would be better off if they were dead and it's also absolute fucking sociopathy to say that. The utilitarian approach cancelling itself out because of the pure emotional damage it would do to literally everyone else seeing that shit go down.Appeals to care, to a harm being done that we must be stopped, is always gonna be at the forefront of any acceptance or rights movement because it's an appeal to the humanity of the public.
>>151061586A lot of people don't know her haters are trans women who say they wanto rape Rowling with their girlcock so she now has a harder time accepting trans people.
