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Adam will probably return at some point
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how big is adam's pp
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>>151067210
Smaller than Lute's
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You could go spelunking in that bird puss
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Emily is cucking Cherry as we speak
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>>151067287
The fuck spelunking mean nigga, actually don't tell me, i bet its the kind of thing that gets you to hell.
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>>151067460
Can't wait for the breast envy when they meet.
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>>151067188
He already has.

What? you ACTUALLY think that's JUST a hallucination?
LMAO
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>no my child, you cannot spelunk me.
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I'm not gonna bother watching the second season, but seeing all the new Sir Pentious fanart makes me very happy.
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I know it's been posted before.

But the episode titles and descriptions from a week or month ago when they leaked, are real.
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>>151067727
God didn't give her a bird vagina for me to not go cave diving into
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Now that the dust is settled, was it femcel rage?
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>>151067816
He did. How are you supposed to resist temptation if it wasn't so enticing?
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>>151067827
I love lute but kek
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>>151067864
I wouldn't be tempted if he didn't put it there
That's like telling a recovering crackhead where a supply of crack is expecting them not to indulge
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>>151067188
He will maot likely return as a figment of her imagination/tulpa telling her to go commit vigilante justice
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>>151067787
>Meanwhile, Alastor reaches his final straw
Hmm, I wonder why...?
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>>151067923
Reread the book of Job. God allowed Satan to do everything he could think of excepting killing him to make Job's life miserable just to test his faith.
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surprised there's been almost no links yet
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>>151067962
Ok firstly that doesn't apply here because Job didn't do anything wrong prior nor did the text imply he had any vices or temptations
Secondly, he was rewarded for his faith in some versions by him getting double the amount of land wealth, and family he had before
Thirdly, it's kind of fucked because the people that weren't Job got fucked and had no say in the matter and just act as a plot device for Job to waiver his faith and they don't get revived at the end of the story either
Lastly, does that mean if I don't fuck the giant bird angel for a long period of time then I get to fuck multiple?
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Is Alastor gonna crash out and release Husker? Seems like that would make him spiral
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>>151068003
> just act as a plot device for Job to waiver his faith
God is telling you how to properly handle stories
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>>151068024
Who knew the bible invented the concept of fridging
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>>151067787
>Does literally nothing
>Reaches his final straw
Why is alastor such a bitch.
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>>151067650
It means cave exploration.
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>>151067764
>seeing all the new Sir Pentious fanart makes me very happy
Same
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I hated every moment this cunt was on screen in season 1 since the voice change, which thankfully wasn't a lot. Now they're giving her even more screentime. Why did they give her part to that hack?
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>>151068184
Shitty voice aside, she was still hot as fuck in that episode.
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>>151068227
>Shitty voice aside
It's hard to put aside something so major, especially when she ruins all of her sexy moments with that awful voice.
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>>151068184
Seriously why did they change the voice from the pilot? Why didn't they give her a female voice.
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>>151068184
I guess you could say she killed the joy.
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The speaker
>You are cleansed, a free soul
Emily
>You cannot leave

Which one is it ?
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Hory shit Baxter is cute, they got a good ass VA for him.
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Bed shattering, womb prolapsing, mating pressing, french kissing impregnation sex with Lute.
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>>151068536
Free from Hell.
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>>151068536
I think Emily fucked up because even sera says that from that moment no one can leave without authorization which implies everyone always could go in and out of heaven at anytime.
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>>151068513
I have no idea, VIv just loves giving work to that hack I guess.
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>>151068560
>Immediately introduce a character with the exact same gimmick to replace pentious and is so obvious they make a joke about charlie not being able to tell them apart.
That's genuinely fucked up.
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>>151068560
Shame he did fuck-all in that episode. Maybe if they didn't spend so much time with those pointless interview scenes...
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>>151068572
Where is the porn? And is anyone else struggling with the captcha
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Do we have a mega or something yet?
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>>151068184
watch the show in french when she’s on screen
and if you’re wondering why I’m only saying french it’s because every other fucking language decided to give katie a male va to match fag mcfaggot
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>>151068513
>>151068605
She's based on Brandon's character, Bryce Tankthrust, so she figured it would be funny if he played the character he created originally
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>>151068684
Its loading very fucking slow for me.
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>>151068572
If Lute promised him sex he’d probably personally lead the most blood thirsty crusade of exterminations against Hell ever seen, then ask her if Adam would be proud of him now.
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>>151068741
Use torrents, newfag
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>>151068779
>so she figured it would be funny if he played the character he created originally
Well, its not.
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>>151068572
>>151068794
Does Abel have malicious intentions?
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>>151068774
>every other fucking language decided to give katie a male va to match fag mcfaggot
Which doesn't even make sense unless they used the same VA as Blitz.
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>>151068796
He's ironically more attractive when he's playing her just drssed in drag
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>>151068826
Looks like a ghoul
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>sir pentious backstory has no mention of various incidents of meth-induced psychosis
would’ve been a nice way to honor the original VA
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>>151068842
What do you think the crack addiction line was for?
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>>151067287
>>151067727
MOMMY
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>>151068868
good catch
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>>151068875
>Best girl in Helluva is a bird
>Best girl in Hazbin is a bird
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>>151068816
...Perhaps.
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>>151068906
Millie isn't a bird
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>>151068924
That's not Sallie Mae
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>>151068906
Loona isn't a bird.
Lute isn't a bird, probably.
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>>151068933
Lute is a bird of prey.
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>>151068046
I don’t think you get it anon. Everyone in the show thinks Alastor is really cool and powerful so this is a big deal and definitely won’t be him jobbing to Vox
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>>151068924
This episode was so good because of tomboy Millie but also so painful to watch because of skank moxxie.
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Last thread we talked about how Viv supposedly has no plans to have God show up (per a new interview from today), but anon pointed out her favorite depiction of him is Morgan Freeman in Bruce Almighty where Jim Carey's character doesn't realize who he is. So if you had to pick a character from the show to have turned out to be God this entire time, who would it be?
>hard mode: it has to be someone from Hell
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>>151069128
>hard mode: it has to be someone from Hell
The slime guy that told Charlie to touch his parts and that he masturbated to every angel movie, you know viv would.
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>>151069128
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>>151069128
What interview?
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Manyouknowtalkinbouthisshowmandoneandtrytomakemefeelbadforthesedangoldsinnersbutyouknowtheyhadtheirchacewhilealivemanthatlifetherethat'sagiftmanandtheysquanderedityouknow?OnlyoneI'mfeelinbadforisthathereonearmedangelgirlmanshegoingthroughpainandgriefsheneedhelpnotridiculeandhatred.Adamsaidanddidsomebadthingsbuthe'soneofthereasonshumanityevenexistsmanandLutetheonlyonewhocareshe'sdead.She just needs, she just needs a hug you know?
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>>151069210
https://www.polygon.com/vivienne-medrano-speaker-of-god-lore-origins-design/
>captcha: G0D2D
what does it mean
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>>151069128
Adam. Meaning he hates his son for events far into the future.
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Give me your theories on what the fuck is Lilith up to because I still can't figure it out
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>>151069256
I have no clue, even if the Roo thing is true. If it isn't, maybe she just had a breakdown and became disillusioned with everything and needed to leave.
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>>151069128
Husk.
Seeing how shit Creation turned out to be drove him to drink and hang out in hell, he’s just humouring Alastor on the slavery part.
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>>151069256
It will be literally nothing, she will be another misunderstood soul wanting to be free from her non existent shackles and everyone will forgive her as soon as she shows up.
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>>151069302
>Angel's face when
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>>151069072
Why did the turn my husband into such a cuck
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>>151067188
If Adam does come back, don’t expect anything complex. They’re probably gonna write him even more one-dimensionally.
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I love my psychopathic mentally unstable wife Lute SO much /co/ why wont Heaven just let her murder demons its NOT fair
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>>151069256
I’m hoping for evil bitch instead of some sad understandable reason.
Like she got pissed at Lucifer allowing exterminations, since she wanted to lead Hell up in rebellion so she left him, and she’s also just plain disappointed in her bleeding heart daughter.
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Anyone read any good fics lately? I read one where Adam leaves Eve after she cheated on him with Lucifer and he hooks up with Leviathan on Earth.
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>>151069409
I mean, if the Eve is Lilith thing is true, then that means Rosie is Lilith. I don’t think she hates Charlie, but is probably burned out from fighting. Like Metroman from Megamind.
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>>151069294
>even if the Roo thing is true
What's that?
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>>151069454
Roo=Eve, Eve is disguised as Lilith.
NTAYRT
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>>151069465
Im not reading all that.
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>>151069465
NTAYRT, but I can’t read it.
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>>151069478
Ok but who is Roo or what does that word mean, also does this mean that the real Lilith is gone?
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>>151069511
Roo=Root of all Evil. Big bad of the series responsible for everything evil. Plot twist, Roo=Eve. Lillith is alive, but hiding/disguised as Rosie.
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>>151069511
Roo is this old character Viv came up with like before the show was even a thing, she’s looking forward for her finally appearing.
People think Roo is short for Root of All Evil for some reason, no idea if Viv said that or not, but she has confirmed that a personification of Evil is going to appear at some point so everyone figures it’s Roo.
I just really love her edgy ass Carmen Santiago design for some reason.
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>>151069537
Ooooh ok ok i like it, but is roo pretending to be eve who is pretending to be lilith rn or was roo eve from the start?
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>>151069558
Hmm that's a lot less interesting but if the root of all evil has this design i like it.
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>>151069560
Eve fell from eating apple, gains superpowers. Eve becomes Roo. Eve can disguise herself as people, disguises herself as Lilith. Eve mentally breaks down Lucifer, creates distrust between him and Charlie.
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>>151069595
Nice, that actually sounds very interesting, from the first episode when they mention the apple allowed evil to get to mankind i got the feeling that the evil is an actual entity and will be the final enemy.
I really hope they do something like that.
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>>151069641
Not before they milk the fuck out of Lucifer’s depression.
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>>151069661
It is what it is.
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>>151069669
And they probably make Roo Stella 2.0: Bitch Boogaloo.
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>>151069688
I like stella so im ok with that.
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>>151069165
YES YES YES YES YES YES
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>>151069429
> and he hooks up with Leviathan on Earth.
What? Cc
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>>151069408
Sad. Many such cases.
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>>151069256
She just wanted to chill on the beach.
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>Lute
>Born for destruction
>Unknowingly almost sits on Eve’s seat
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Would you do this to Valentino?
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After Eve, did Adam actually have sex with anyone or did his withdrawal make him to do stupid things.
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>>151069858
If I wanted Vox to torture me. No!
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>>151069863
He fucked a Virtue angel according to him.
Most people theorize he would only fuck other Heavenborn angels cause fucking a Winner would be like banging a great-grandkid.
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>>151069815
I’d fuck with Charlastor, but when they made him try to do the “father figure” thing, that was just SO weird.
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>>151069883
They probably have an S&M kink.
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>>151069005
That's fucking yaoi paddle
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>>151069958
I feel like Vivziepop had this scene in mind for decades. What the fuck.
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>>151069128
I'm honestly fine with no God depiction atp since the Speaker essentially can fill that role, they're essentially God's voice if not them directly.
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We love angels here.
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>>151068779
You know what accept that
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>>151069408
>why wont Heaven just let her murder demons its NOT fair
You did everything to make this private war happen. You've done enough damage. This mission is over, Lute. Do you understand me? This mission is over! Look at them out there! Look at them! If you won't end this now, they will kill you. Is that what you want? It's over Lute. It's over!
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Found this neat edit
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>>151070065
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>>151067827
Look, if I died and my Wife/Girlfriend doesn't go on a scorched earth mission to avenge my death, did she even love me?
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>>151070065
>viv makes features of angels having blue eyes and lighter colors like blonde hair

to retvrn yov mvst first pass throvgh hell
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Can't wait for them to confront each other
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>Viv's unhealthy obsession with owls.
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>>151070153
>We're not so difference, you and I...
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>>151070178
>the owls are not what they seem
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>>151070191
>difference
I mean different
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is it me or are they emphasizing lute's thighs a lot in the show? we see blood on them and right in this season they're more thicc than ever, it's almost a fetish
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>>151070232
Yes, it's completely intentional, they want you to focus on Lute's thighs.
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>>151070191
>>151070214
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfK3Ygb7Jzk
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>>151070043
Man I wish I could continue this scene but with Lute
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>>151070232
I mean, considering somebody on Spindlehorse has a rape fetish and works on the Angel Dust scenes, it wouldn’t surprise me. We didn’t get a show, we got a bunch of scraps from gooner fanfics based off Vivziepop’s OC’s.
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>>151068076
>>151067764
>the only character i could ever cosplay and do justice is created for something i have no interest in in my 30s
this generation gets to have all the fun
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>>151070325
NTAYRT but I’m confused by your statement.
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>>151070380
to clarify, i dont watch this show at all, but this is the only character i've seen where i've thought "damn, i could cosplay that really well". which would be incredibly weird to do as a 30-something, given that fans of this show are mostly teenagers
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Charlie better kiss Emily soon or I'm finished.
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Come with me, anon.
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>>151070483
No.
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>>151067764
>>151068076
Why is he so cute?
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I love her.
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>>151070483
s2 showed me that heaven is lame and even pentious agrees
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>>151068560
Who gets to dom him?
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>>151070530
She made the most adorable faces this episode. I gotta compile them.
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>>151067188
I feel like Lute's the main reason I'm watching right now. I'll be sad if she gets a lame-ass death this season.
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>>151070559
Make sure you post it here afterwards.
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>>151070560
she'll definitely die, but i don't think it will be a joke one like adam being ambushed by little stabby girl
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>>151070020
There's 2 demons in that pic.
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>>151070583
right, shouldn't have included adam and lute in the image
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>>151070560
But no one’s dying this season.
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>>151070559
She was only on for like 20 seconds, but was still the best part of the episode. I took five screen grabs so far.
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>>151069873
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>there are people who think Heaven looks lame
you people DONT want to pet pangolins???
then enjoy your damnation.
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>>151070412
I mean, there’s plenty of cosplayers on Twitter who dress up as the characters while also talking about how much they want that character’s dick inside them.
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>>151070634
they're mostly fags who want to be contrarian for the sake of contrarianism
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>>151070634
For me, it's attending Adam's concerts and fucking virtue sluts.
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>>151070634
NTAYRT here..It’s one of the better designed areas of the show, but fuck is it creepy. When I saw that gun Pentious held shoot out confetti, I immediately knew something was definitely off about this place.
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>when nobody's on your side except your hallucinations
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>>151070595
You will never be redeemed.
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>>151070683
They've basically made this trope canon to Hazbin's Heaven: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PossessiveParadise
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>>151070683
Tbf it was made by immortal beings who have never known true struggles in their lives and they can only work with what information they can take from humans- hey wait a second.
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>>151070697
This is why she'll never going to take her meds.
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>>151070736
Yeah, I read that before. But really, that’s the type of shit I love. Dare I say it, Vivienne made a really good scene. The problem for me, though, is depicting the Heaven members as.. lobotomized/hiveminded? Maybe it’s just me, but that part felt inconsistent with Emily and Pete’s personalities.
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>>151070714
funny considering those who witnessed redemption firsthand opposed lute and adam so far
you're supporting sadists wearing angel skin, and they'll die like they deserve to do
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>>151070779
You will never be a real winner. You have no wings, you have no virtues, you have no divine right. You are a filthy sinner twisted by lies and trickery into a crude mockery of Heaven's perfection.
All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. The High Court is disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your ghoulish appearance behind closed doors.
Angels are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed angels to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even "redeemed souls" who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to an angel. Your afterlife form is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get an angelic companion home with you, she’ll turn tail and bolt the second she gets a whiff of your Hellish, brimstone-infected aura.
You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.
Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy an angelic steel knife, press it against your throat, slit the blade against it, and plunge into the cold abyss. The Seraphim will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they'll no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with a pentagram, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a filthy sinner is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably demonic.
This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
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>>151070767
I wanna laugh at your joke, but I don’t get it.
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>>151070787
Lute...
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>>151070773
Tbf this is like the first exciting thing to happen to them in probably millennia.
>>151070788
It's a picture of Caine from The Amazing Digital Circus. He's an AI that runs a game that traps humans inside of it. He's like AM from I Have No Mouth and Must Scream, but he's "nice". His problem is that he was an AI designed to entertain kids for a few hours a day and not adults for years. He only knows how to make "fun" adventures and can't understand why the cast are so miserable.
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>>151070560
I doubt they'll go with it, but I like the theory where she ends up a fallen angel after losing everyone and everything, leaving the hotel's door open to her as the one who doubted redemption most of all.
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>>151069558
the root of evil is namedropped by Martha the Satanist in ep 1 of helluva boss - it is part of the lore even as far back as that episode.
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>>151070773
They aren’t a hivemind. That’s just how fundies act
Source: friends with several fundies
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This is what Charlie fans want don't they.
They don't actually give a shit about shipping Charlie with anyone they just want her butt.
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She didn't deserve it bros
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>>151070634
I don't mind the design itself, but think it's funny that Charlie's clearly romanticized idea of Heaven being nothing but puppies and ice cream wasn't an exaggeration.
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>>151070869
true, i only value hellaverse characters in terms of ass, breasts and thighs, and only the humanoid ones excel so far, i hate the furfags that fill this universe
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>>151070880
She'll be fine
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>>151070838
Okay. I understand both of those points (I’m both Anons). It just felt kinda weird to me that they want to present them as just misguided and naive, then shifts to creepy and disturbing. Vivziepop is total dogshit at handling tone.
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>>151070291
Ironically, if someone in Heaven would try to approach Lute the same way the Colonel did with Rambo she probably could calm down. Even if it doesn't work it would certainly be better than just leaving her to her own devices and let her tulpa fuel her revenge.
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>>151070880
shes a sinner so she'll be fine. shes gonna regenerate in a couple of hours or smth.
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>>151070909
nah, sera did the right thing to tell lute to stfu and sulk in a corner, bitch deserve her suffering and loneliness
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>>151070921
NTAYRT but I’m pretty sure the ShockWav permakills. It’s been hyped as the BFG weapon since the new Hazbin merch came out.
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>>151067827
Lute acutally doing something impactful this season vs just being a seething jobber will determine how we recontextualize her rage and sorrow in episode 2. If she actually does something cool then it's righteous anger, if she does nothing than it's just a woman moment.
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>>151070950
>the ShockWav permakills
Hm that would be a problem
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>>151071010
Well, yeah, it’s Vox’s big bad plan to blow through the Heaven Gates. Hence why Lute ends up back in Heaven in the teaser clips and the “war” starts over again.
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>>151070634
Seems like there's a reason the exorcists resorted to murder for entertainment.
Heaven is fucking boring.
Just another thing the Hazbin Hotel will solve.
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>>151070483
I would, but a little birdy leaker told me you're going to be the final boss of the series akin to this motherfucker that Vizzie intends to make reference to
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>>151071049
Ohh that's why there's a shark emoji in one of the song titles
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How would episode 2 be different if we had Alan Rickman Metatron instead of the speaker of God?
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>>151071087
Could Alan Rickman sing?
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>>151070918
Reminder that Pentious only loves Cherri
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>>151071098
See for yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omD3m-xwBWk
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>>151071100
Let’s let the shippers have their fun, Anon.
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>>151070950
>ShockWav permakills
how? Do you really think they will explain it?
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>>151070191
>>151070214
How many times will they be cucking Adam by their own incompetence.
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>>151071142
angelic steel teeth?
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>>151071142
Vox recorded everything on TV and probably took Adam’s body to fill its power.
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>>151071142
My theory is that’s a machine that harvests souls as a living weapon. I’m pretty sure it’s implied it can fly or something, and is going to be sent to attack the gates.
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do they have toilets in heaven? how do the sewage system work?
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>>151071178
Anon, why are thinking about toilets?
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>>151070909
What Snake and Colonel Campbell doin here?
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>>151071178
They probably dump their shit to Hell via mini-portals
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>>151071178
No one needs to shit in heaven
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>>151071178
People in Heaven dont poop and produce no waste.
Meanwhile in Hell everyone has horrible diarrhea or terrible constipation, and you never know which one will it be today.
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>>151071178
In Heaven everyone poops gold
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Lute being crazy is kinda hot
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>>151071234
Bro, you’re tripfagging.
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>>151071234
They act like she’s crazy when they’re so casual about throwing them away.
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>>151071224
What’s you do to the clip?
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What if Lute doesn't kill someone but has LAUNCH THE MISSILE NOW moment
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>>151071279
But how would she do that if they have no “missile”, per se? Heaven hasn’t revealed their secret weapon (if they do have one).
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Vivzie is creative enough to make redemption in Hell a legitimate process but too uncreative to add cambions, nephilims, ghosts and limbo in her world.
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>>151071306
I don’t think we need any more characters. The cast feels like a damn Smash Bros roster already.
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>>151071315
I honestly couldn't remember half the characters and what they did in the first season. Like the Vs. I don't remember any of their parts.
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>>151069558
In Zoophobia, Vivzie's character KayCee was similer to the "Roo" character and she's Alastor's love interest, as they're both chaos demons and would wreak havoc on the world together
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>>151071306
>ghosts
How would that even work? They gotta be souls who somehow evaded divine judgment or something? Maybe sinners who escaped from Hell and became earth spirits?
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>>151071334
Exactly, the cast size is ridiculous for an 8-episode season, how the fuck ARE you supposed to keep track?
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>>151071306
>cambions, nephilims
Wouldn't these be on earth?
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>>151070598
Based Norwegian
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>>151071164
I wouldn't be surprised if that's the reason.
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>>151071353
they'd require living humans directly interacting with angels and demons, which viv doesn't want to do because mortals are insignificant in her story
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>>151071248
>Noo you have to worry about some psycho’s mental health when your entire worldview was shattered
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>>151071335
I know this has been posted before, and I know I already replied to this before, but I really hope this happens.
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HEY ANON
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>>151071360
I think it has lasers.
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>>151069908
I got a hearty kek at the audacity of Alastor saying "Your daughter also calls me daddy" straight to Lucifer's face
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>>151071385
*slap her back into the portal*
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>>151071352
It reminds me of Game of Thrones. I think it took me until season 3 before I had full control of all the characters and their relations, and when there was a new season, I struggled to remember what some characters did in the previous season.
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>>151071369
If I, as a leader, sent soldiers to battles to mend the damages I avoided myself, and turned out to be one, I would be deserve to be killed on the spot for tossing them to the ditch.
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>>151070598
So she has water powers. Don't know why I find it a weird choice of powers for her. [Spoiler]So much for the bow weapon idea. Welp, back to drawing board[/spoiler]
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>>151071412
well I fucked up my spoiler
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>>151071402
Yeah, but it wasn’t meant from a sexual standpoint. Which just makes it weird. Like, Charlie knows this guy for like a few months, and you’d really she’d see him as a father? Weird as fuck. But obviously, Vivienne made it because she hates Charlastor.
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>>151071431
The writers knew what they were doing, plausible deniability
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>>151071411
Unfortunately for you, i actually watched the show.
Adam picked a fight Sera advised him against and got himself killed. Now Lute wants to make it everyone else’s problem.
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>>151071431
Charlie obviously doesn't think of him as a dad Alastor was just needling what he knew was Lucifer's sore spot
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>>151071434
Sorry, I don’t get what you’re saying. Could you explain?
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Words of wisdom.
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>Multiple references to God
I'm concerned about where Viv is going with this. Surely she wouldn't do a "God is evil" storyline would she?
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I miss him so much bros
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>>151071006
In the Speaker and Sara scene when Sara is crying about allowing the purges the Speaker says that some mistakes are meant to be examples or something like that. When she says this there is an image of Lute behind her, suggesting that Lute is making a mistake big enough to be an example. My guess is she falls from heaven, becoming what she despised.
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>>151071447
It wasn't meant sexually in the context of the show but it felt like a wink and a nudge
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>>151070191
>>151070214
>She starts out in the dark place and brings out light
>Lucifer started in a place of light and descends to darkness
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>>151071466
Ehh, I guess so. But I think Vivienne just wanted to make a jab at people she doesn’t like. She has a habit of that.
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>>151070191
>>151070214
>No.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYCDyoTsIPw
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>>151071452
>Surely she wouldn't do a "God is evil" storyline would she?
She just said today she has no intention of having God show up in the story.
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>>151071511
I don't believe her
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>>151071464
>Lilith, Adam’s first wife, is an example
>Eve, Adam’s second wife, is an example
Making an example out of Lute of all people by purposely doing nothing good for her would make Adam rage.
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>>151071512
God just doesn't work in this kind of story I think. Like as a player in it. The Speaker has basically said what he would. If Viv is lying and God does show up it's going to be in a wink wink nudge nudge way.
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is it normal that i growl in lust when i look at lute's ass?
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>>151071520
Lute's made it clear that nothing short of bloodshed will satisfy her. She's already a lost cause.
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As a shameless Alastor simp, I think it's genuinely hilarious of Vivziepop to create the ultimate Tumblr sexyman with everything that appeals to fangirls: the "dapper" outfits, the sexy voice, sharp teeth, 1920s style and transatlantic accent, sarcastic wit, the edgy bad boy appeal, and antlers/fluffy ears...and then she makes him canonically asexual so that nobody else can have him, kek. Based
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>>151071442
Last I checked that never happened lmao, the only thing Sera advised against was not getting too excited and blabbering about extermination to the whole court
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>>151071556
Viv wanted Gaga and she MIGHT do it. She did a song for Wednesday.
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>>151071554
Honestly, I preferred when he was just zany and silly. I could care less about him being asexual, I’m still attracted to him. But not sexually.
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I love Lute and all but keeping her on the payroll as a lieutenant when she's clearly already having traitorous thoughts and planning a crusade makes Sera look like a dipshit. Clip her wings dammit
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>>151071539
Yes.
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>>151071554
I still 100% believe he was originally intended to be paired with Charlie, but Viv fucked up and made Charlie in a committed relationship so she turned him Ace so no one else can have him.
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>>151071520
If she hadn't been distracted by the revelation of Able taking over the Exorcist army instead of her getting the job, she probably would have said enough shit directly to the Speaker to get herself in trouble then and there.
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>>151071539
Bury your face on it
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>>151071568
Well…
You don’t see any other exorcists baying for blood
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>>151071539
You can fix her, anon
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>>151071668
Maybe he could, I can make her worse.
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Demonlovers seething in thread
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>>151071655
If that’s the case, why does Vivienne hate Charlastor so much?
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>>151071664
Yet
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>>151071687
I hate Adam, and I still want him to come back. Even though he’ll probably be written one-dimensionally.
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I'm not a fan of this Baxter character, what's even the point
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After watching the two episodes so far the things that ive conceded and found noteworthy are:
>The Alastor humilation ritual will contiune and has no end in sight
>Lute mental breakdown and schizofication is real and im all for it
>My theory that before Vox died he was a televangelist cult leader and thats why he has a God Complex was semi true.
>God is finally canonized in the setting even if he will probably never appear due to the Speak of God being a thing
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>>151068875
Christ, she is lovely
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>>151071707
Nifty love interest.
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>>151068928
Sallie Mae isn't a girl
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>>151070634
Heaven is just a place of endless pleasure and gluttony, it's where you go to stagnate, not grow
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>>151071689
Probably the fans of it being very obnoxious.
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>>151071655
There would've been art of it somewhere. Viv's been working on this story for over a decade. Also the idea that she was pressured to drop her intended canon pairing, the one that no doubt would be vital to the plot given that Alastor is likely going to be one of the final antagonists for Chaggie is just stupid. If she did, then she wasn't all that invested to begin with.
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>>151071707
Finally! This is what I was thinking
Weirdly in an episode called The New Pentious, he gets like 3 scenes. And weirdly everyone shouted Nifty down when she asked if he was the new Pentious, as if it was the payoff to a joke we didn’t see.
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>>151071734
Exactly. She’s been so busy talking about her show, anybody who’s watched the livestreams practically know exactly how the story’s gonna go.
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>>151071744
“New Pentious”? What are you talking about?
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>>151071747
>anybody who’s watched the livestreams practically know exactly how the story’s gonna go
how?
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>>151071766
She spilled the beans on a lot of her lore, from what I’ve heard. I haven’t watched the streams myself, but from what I heard, she spills a lot.
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>>151071780
can we get a compilation of all the lore drops?
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>>151071734
>>151071655
In the old pre-pilot days Vivzie said that Mimzy and Alastor used to fool around sometimes when they were drunk kek. She originally was going to have them be a couple until she ditched the idea to have them be "good friends"
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>>151071546
Why are you so sure of that when she doesn’t know what Adam wants and can only get any idea of it from Vox’s database since he recorded the whole speech. And we know that man will be relevant.
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>Sinner is a secretary bird
Why didn't she just kick the Vee's to death? Is she stupid?
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>>151071811
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>>151071818
Did I miss something about Adam that would imply he wouldn't want revenge? He was basically ranting about it before Niffty stabbed him.
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>>151071825
>that's s cute bg girl methinks
>is whored out completely in three minutes
Oh
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>>151071841
How do you think Alastor fangirls in the timeline where he loves Jewish shortstacks are handling it
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>>151071856
That's showbiz, baby!
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>>151071862
The chubby Hazbin fans are popping champagne bottles.
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>>151071877
I was gonna say a lot of them are probably happy but I didn't wanna be mean
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>haven't looked in my Hazbin folder in over a year
>find this
Lol I forgot all about this one.
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>>151071657
The Speaker had the opportunity to retire Lute (who has been working there for thousands/centuries) from the position till she’s actually stable enough to handle it.
And now that you remind me of Abel, I have so many bad vibes regarding Lute being at his hand that will not be surprised if sexual harassment occurs by his hand.
Eve and Lilith were not caged by bad authority figures with extremely gross negligence for them. They had eveything in their hand and chosen to thrown it away.

They could defuse the bomb at any time, but they’ve chosen to provoke it. And somehow Lute is the bad one when none of them have direct PTSD or any troublesome factors to make their decisions regarding her. And they’ve treated the redeemed sinner badly till the Speaker shown up and expect that the one they’ve ordered to kill sinners to somehow do a good job handling their redemption plan thing.

This whole set up is legitimately unfair that I would rather have the Speaker and Sera get punched in the vagina instead since they’re the ones purposely mistreating her despite all of the resources they’ve had to replace her right then and there, even if she was acting fine.
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How would Alastor react if someone farted near him?
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Handsome singing deer man!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iGK8n8lC_U
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>>151071846
Adam wanted them to be in heaven instead of hell. To follow his path instead of Lucifer’s.
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>>151071919
Oh it's the Adamschizo, cool to see you back for season 2.
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>>151071901
Honestly, I’ve seen crazier gooners.
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>>151071754
Look up the title of HH S2 E1, pirate
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>>151071730
They are not particularly. She's okay shipping the rapist with his victim but Charlastor is apparently crossing some imaginary line.
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>>151071934
Wow I didn't know Sabrina Carpenter was a Hazbin fan
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>>151071937
I forgot that was the title.
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Imagine seeing these fallen Exorcists outside your window at night.
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>>151071950
I just got an idea. If Roo’s whole thing is nature, what if she summons a bunch of zombies and shit?
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>>151071912
>Lute acts like a bitch, gets her comeuppance and traumadumps
>It can’t be Lute’s fault, it’s everyone else’s
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>>151071912
Lute wasn't going to take anything other than command of the army and permission to launch an attack well. Even if someone had told her to stand down for her own well-being, she wouldn't take that well.
>And now that you remind me of Abel, I have so many bad vibes regarding Lute being at his hand that will not be surprised if sexual harassment occurs by his hand.
Ok, that's bit of a leap.
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Does anyone remember than one anon from when s1 was airing who always drew female Vox? He was really active on the /trash/ threads, then he stopped drawing her for some crazy reason, something along the lines of that she was haunting him and giving him nightmares
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>>151071957
Not that guy but I think you could make the argument that Sera and Heaven ignoring their rabid attack dogs that they brainwashed into thinking they're doing the right thing and suddenly depriving them of their purpose right after they suffered a humiliating defeat and lost their leader isn't a good idea and might even be a little unsympathetic. On the other hand, it's only been two episodes (technically one since ep. 1 was focused on Hell) and Sera does have a lot of shit to think about. We might get some insight into what the other exorcists think. But yeah Lute's just crazy lol.
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>>151071957
Are you a Sera/Speaker simp? I told you that Lute isn’t acting fine and isn’t suitable for this situation and position anymore, but these “wise-old hags” are too sleazy to retire a used up soldier for some reason.

Can you imagine if Solomon ever put a soldier like that in a high-position of power when he’s getting all worked by the now-allied kingdom that killed his best friend and acted joyfully over it?
You wouldn’t blame the soldier, you would spit on Solomon and call him a retard.
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>>151071554
The Hazbin cast and crew:
>Hey guys, I know we like to have a lot of fun around here with ships and all but also remember this character is ASEXUAL and friendly reminder the canon should be RESPECTED, you don't need to fuck to be fab

>also Vivzie:
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>>151071968
She was a female anon.
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>>151071991
Well they don't know that Lute is hallucinating and just sang a song about how she's going to kill everyone while smashing Adam's office.
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>>151071974
Nice
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>>151071974
holy shit, you'd make for a good hazbin horror artist
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>>151071991
We’re not using Bible logic here, though. Were using Vivziepop logic.
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>>151071974
Good pic just in time for Halloween
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>>151071967
> she wouldn't take that well.
So what? It’s better than letting her and her objectively insane army interacting with unredeemed Sinners. Take her away from the wars and make her farm or something.
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>>151071988
picrel is what all Hazbin cosplayers look like to me
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>>151072009
The Speaker 100% knows. Cause she speaks to God. And Lute isn’t even acting fine in their professional get togethers. Ignorance is not a thing.

Why am I supposed to like these two idiots that can’t even handle this problem at all, yet casually bring over Abel to sit on Adam’s chair without a second thought.
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>>151072033
I cringe every time I see someone in an Alastor cosplay because it never looks good, his features are so distorted and inhuman that it literally only works on a 2D character kek
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i can't be the only one who's annoyed at how overused the color red is in this series, right?
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>>151068184
This minor part being changed just highlights how good the original VAs were in general. Charlie is nowhere near as cute as she was in the pilot and the voice is a big part of it.

I have a lot of respect for Broadwayfags and their talents, especially vocals, but the recasting here just turned out seeming uninspired and frankly boring by comparison.
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>>151072005
I didn’t even wanna fuck him, and I had a crush on him! Modern fandoms really ruin being attached to a character.
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>>151072056
No but you are quite literally six years late, we've all gotten used to it.
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>>151072014
I hope that under Vivziepop logic, the fallen angels aren’t going to be someone like Lute but the people we think aren’t going to fall since they seem to act so nice when the Sinners don’t desire to kill them.
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>>151072060
NTAYRT but Erika sounds makes Charlie sound 10 years older. And NOT in a good way.
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>>151072056
>>151072066
She loves red and pink a lot.
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>>151072069
I’m pretty sure they’re foreshadowing heavy that Lute’s gonna become fallen. Or something similar.
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>>151072060
Original Charlie VA had to be autotuned, she wouldn't have been a good pick in the long run.
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>>151072077
lute is gonna die, not fall
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>>151072077
The lyrics aside they animated her doing all sorts of flips and turns that made her look like she's falling and then topped it off with a shot of her upside down and her wings spread. She's definitely falling.
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>>151072082
We don’t know that yet. And nobody dies this season, anyways.
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>>151072010
>>151072013
>>151072019
Thank you very much!
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Post Human Pentious.
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>>151072092
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>>151072092
>>151072094
i can only imagine the kind of things emily would do to him in his human form...
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There's gonna be a beach episode, right?
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>>151072092
Twiggietime? I remember her. She made some crazy Pentious porn.
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>>151072107
I don't think they have beaches in Pride, or at least not any good ones.
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>>151072080
I don't think that's the problem so much as you could give Viv the choice between the existing VA and a random Broadwayfag in a mystery box and she'd kneejerk take the box every time:
https://youtu.be/KezvwARhBIc?t=51
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>>151071911
>Male Vaggie is a fucking dwarf
based
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I really wanna like this show so bad. I really do, I just… can’t. It feels like hell, because I can only watch this show inebriated.
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>>151072060
I WANT ED BOSCO BACK, we were ROBBED of our BEST ALASTOR. These moments were funnier than the entire Amazon show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me0XrTTM_3s
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>>151072157
I MISS HIM TOO HE WAS HUSBAND MATERIAL
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>>151067460
How will Cherri Bomb react to Pen being cherry-popped by an angel?
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>>151072103
Like holding his hand?
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>>151072181
She'll kill that cunt.
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>>151072120
I think Viv had her dream cast mostly decided before they even cast for the pilot.
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>>151072077
>>151072082
You know what could be the most insane outcome.
What if Lute of all people tells Vox to repent in the semi-final song and it works.
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>>151072228
You know Vox is too full of himself to actually take accountability. She’s gonna spear the absolute fuck out of that ShockWav like a Shadow of The Colossus boss fight.
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>>151071825
Fuck your washed up waifu. That scene just made me love Velvette all the moar.
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>>151072254
I love and am glad at how they're portraying Velvette as just as evil as the other two, I was always worried they'd try to make her the redeemable one of the Vees simply cause she's a hot woman.
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>>151072242
Unless… Vox wanted Godhood to replace the parents that never loved him. So he looks at Alastor like the father-figure he shouldn’t ever been inspired by.
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>>151072254
Y’all are gonna hate me for saying this but Velevette is underutilized.
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>>151072254
>>151072268
She's a stone cold bitch and I can't wait to see what shenanigans she gets up to
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>>151072273
I’m not even a Velvette stan, though. I just feel that in my opinion, the “female-focused show” focuses on way too many of the males.
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>>151072254
The ukulele apology video is a cute touch I missed upon first watching. They were really embracing the memes that episode. Pic related made me doubletake.
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>>151072279
Well, Lute knows the man’s penis does define her.
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>>151072287
But I feel that most of the songs last season that had the most effort put into them were the ones with the men. Vivienne keeps saying all this about how it’s “progressive” or “nuanced” or “unique”, when she keeps fuckjng flip-flopping. I don’t understand her. Does she wanna make a super-woke show, or a shitpost? Because I’m fine with one, but she can’t do both at the same time.
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>Lute begins the season in rage and confusion. Trapped in darkness, barely with a scraped of light.
>Semi-final song implies that Vox’s life will be exposed and displayed, everything revealed.
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So what was the point of killing off Dazzle again?
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>>151072302
The same reason they kill off a dog in a movie or show- to make people feel sad without any great impact to the story.
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>>151072287
lute and the rest of the exorcists are not the descendants of adam so his dick doesn't define her
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>Viv confirmed that Lucifer created the Goetia
>they are majority birbs cause he misses his mommy Speaker
silly lil fella.
I am also assuming there's some Duck Goetia and they are like his chosen people and highest nobility.
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>>151072311
>>Viv confirmed that Lucifer created the Goetia
REALLY
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>>151072311
I like the "he misses mom" take but I also see it as him trying to be like "I'LL MAKE MY OWN HEAVEN WITH BLACKJACK AND HOOKERS" because his sin is pride and all.
>>151072320
Ye https://www.polygon.com/vivienne-medrano-speaker-of-god-lore-origins-design/
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>>151072268
>>151072273
This. Makes the Prada-wearing bitch in that Meryl Streep movie look like a fucking pussycat.

I really like the way her hair and outfit changes all the time in line with her fashionista character, despite the extra animation expense. Every aspect of the animation process would push back hard on that and try to simplify it, but it's totally worth it.

Her being young, plugged into the internet, full of attitude and taking zero Boomer shit, nails it just as much as Vox with Television and Alastor with his old timey radio crap. Underrated how well she's been introduced and used so far in this show. Look forward to more and just hope Viv doesn't fuck it up.
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>>151072302
The same reason Keekee exist. Cute Background characters that add nothing besides that
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>>151072336
Keekee is supposedly important
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>Tfw people are going to learn that Alastor was black and is owned by a jewish white demoness
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>>151072330
I really wanna like the show, but that first season was so mid. I’m gonna wait until this new season ends before I decide whether to become a fan or not.
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>>151072141
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>>151072285
I laughed out loud when I saw this in the episode
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>>151072358
a creature
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>>151072297
I think Lilith, Eve, and Lute are the three cores of the show and what it’s supposed to overall be.

If you remember, there is one father Adam (for sinners and winners) but he lost two partners (Lilith and Eve) before the events of the show, meaning the winners are mother-less but the sinners have twisted mothers that either let them indulge in their destruction (Lilith) or parasite off of them (Eve). Leaving the Winners in a broken family unit. With no woman or son weeping for Adam, except Lute, who wears his holo around her left hand, where the wedding/engagement rings are usually given.

Season 1 and season 2 dines into this idea of the absent mother from Lilith and how she is in Charlie’s and Lucifer’s life, which signifies the extreme silent damages Eve’s absence has on Adam and the Winners.
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>>151072356
I had big issues with the first season, and I'm still not sold on this one. Can't say I'm a fan per se, but there is some aspects of it that are truly genius.

It's just a pity Viv is a stupid fat fucking retard dyke about the rest of it.
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>>151072379
EXACTLY! You see these sparks of brilliance here and there that shine like a fucking gem, like Pentious trying to end his life but failing, or Velvette finally being used as an actual character. But then we get shit like Angel Dust getting slapped repeatedly that just fucks the whole flow.
I wanna like the show, but I just really can’t deal with the writing at times.
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The Adamschizo is annoying because he always starts off with something stupid but intriguing and then he just starts talking about shit that makes no sense and isn't supported by the actual canon. I keep getting tricked into reading his weird interpretations.
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>>151072348
Yes, she's an important pocket pussy
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>>151072388
ignore him, he's an ally of the lutefags who make their own headcanonized ideal of what should have happened in the show instead of sticking to canon because they can't handle the fact that their characters literally exist to be dunked on
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>>151072388
Yeah, don’t get me wrong, Adam *had* some points. But he was ruined by Vivziepop making him act like a fucking Redditor. Same goes with Alastor, too.
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Is it my imagination or is Viv not using as much red and pink on shit this season, (and by 'not as much red' I mean not literally every fucking thing is red).

The new inventor/scientist fish guy almost looks like he doesn't belong in the show because he's so blue.
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>>151072415
I’m scared to say this, but Vivienne might have actually learnt something.
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>>151072388
You’re thinking on my work in a bad mindset. This overall story is a mystery with a big leak of Lilith being Eve in disguise. Mothers are very essential to the storyline. And to see Lute have a grudge against Eve (the main villain) without knowing it, and the attachment to the man Eve has long abandoned, I see a big throne that tiny Lute is stumbling to without realizing it.
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>>151072415
Well Vox's color has always been teal and Heaven's are purple, gold and pinks. It's just because we've had the episodes split between these locations.
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>>151072421
ikr? The idea that any criticism or advice could penetrate that fat head is hard to believe.

Hell, the idea that the bitch could actually exercise some kind of self-restraint sounds banana cakes. Especially around banana cakes ... or any kind of cake for that matter ... and don't get me started on exercise ...
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>>151072401
Okay, how is Lute supposed to beat anything like Eve? Eve doesn’t belong in Heaven and yet manages to roam there as the horrible parasite she is. In the end, Eve would wish she killed that insect when she had the chance. And go in this spill of “everyone blames me!”

>>151072403
What character doesn’t act like a Redditor? Viv only writes what she knows.
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>>151072388
Ironically the biblical Adam would probably hate Vivzie Adam for multiple reasons. I mean the biblical Adam IS a Sinner. He only got pulled outta hell by Jesus after he forgave mankind for all their sins. It was symbolic of Christ undoing the folly of Adam and Eve after all. Biblican Adam was a core example of redemption so he'd obviously hate Vivzie Adam's "kill all sinners, hell is forever!" mentality.
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>>151072355
As a bossy part-jewish alasister I've been waiting for this moment since I saw the leaks 11 months ago. Absolutely delighted, we're eating good next week
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>>151072441
I’m mostly scared of the next two episodes, because Episode 3 is the only 18+ episode and Episode 4 is where Alastor is permanently retired to the cuck chair. The episode I’m most FRIGHTENED about is Episode 6, the Angel Dust hypno episode. I do NOT want a fucking repeat of Masquerade.
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>>151072447
This show is very different from the Bible lore and how it functions. Even by character by character.
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>>151072461
Like, there’s always somebody talking about Hazbin Hotel’s Lucifer like he’s fucking Aizen from Bleach.
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>>151072466
Why? I don’t like him and even I don’t think he is trying to be a big mastermind. He’s a loser that made his coping playground. Even when I talk about Lute, Adam is the one that knows things, she doesn’t, Lucifer doesn’t, but Eve probably does from her Roo thing.

Hazbin is supposed to be simpler than we think.
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>>151072461
I know, im just remarking that its funny how extremely opposite many characters in theology are from these vivzieversions.
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>>151072491
Like Peter. In the gospels, oh man he’s funny. Everyone writes about him. Apostle Paul did because Peter did a drama session on him over the bad people Peter hanged out with.
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>>151072490
Well, that is sorely Vivziepop’s fault. She keeps trying to do drama, but doesn’t want to actually paint any of the characters she likes as guilty. They all have “poor wittle guy” syndrome, or terminal woobification.
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>>151072506
I seriously hope Adam never takes Eve back.
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>>151072511
Oh, I think it’s the other way around. Eve’s gonna use Adam as a doormat. And not in a sexy way.
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>>151072456
I've never given a single fuck about Angel Dust and his gay shit including the pilot. I can tolerate sometimes at best as a fuck up Charlie has to deal with.
>Charlie trying to block the screen overlay made me kek

It's like the Helluva Boss shit with the owl. No heterosexual can tolerate that shit for long no matter how good the rest of the show might be, and then when you make the whole show all about it you've got a real problem. I like that show's concept, but dropped it long ago for exactly that reason.
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>>151072516
Which is why Lute is a threat to this power.
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>>151072517
Well, I’m a bit more.. positive about Angel Dust. There’s a real message to be had here about sexual abuse. But Vivziepop can’t decide as to whether to take his abuse seriously, or as a joke.
That’s why I absolutely fucking hated that Valentino montage in the first episode of this season. It’s so fucking confusing as to how she wants the audience to feel about his abuse.
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Giving Sera stress-relief sexo
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>>151072525
Crazy bitch vs crazier bitch. Match of the century. Can’t wait!
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>too paranoid in times of peace
>too weak willed in times of war
Sera is a terrible leader.
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>>151067287
She is VERY pretty. I really liked that character. Sexually.
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>>151072517
My favorite thing about the imp and royals plotline are the implications of Stella spoiling Striker and how that cowboy acts so punt up over Blitzo and Beetlejuice having royal boyfriends. The projection is amazing.
Although, I did notice that in that same Episode with rhe Striker cave, the wills of Stella and Striker are easily folded by sexual maneuvers, implying they were “toyed with” traumatically.

As you can see, you are right, and I don’t care about the gay drama.
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>>151072548
When will Adam comeback and take the throne from this coward.
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>>151072562
Y’all are gonna hate me, but my OTP is Striker x Stella.
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>>151067188
Tho i hate this show and viv in general, i like the idea that he'll come back as a demon, get redeemed and go back to heaven.
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>>151072569
Mine too.
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>>151072574
you're a stupid retard and an idiotic moron simultaneously
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>>151072576
I like that they’re both horrible people. I like them to be horrible together. If Stolas and Blitz can be trashy, why not two evil motherfuckers?
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>>151072574
Adam's gonna like hell a lot more lol
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>>151072583
Although, they are easily defeated by the presence of sexual content. It’s like the cross on vampires to them. Casca and Gutts.
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>>151072591
NTAYRT…The only thing is, how would people not know it’s Adam? And if they do, how would they not want him dead.
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>>151072597
>The only thing is, how would people not know it’s Adam?
He just changes his name.
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Fanon Adam makes me confused as Adam in the actual show strangely isn’t actually as perverted and sexual as he seems. He doesn’t even know what blowjobs even look like nor has sex with Lute when he could’ve done it with her a long time ago.
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>>151072594
I could care less about the sex in the relationships. Just two people finding something they have in common.
I read this really good fic on AO3. “The life of an imp” by SleepyMiya. Great little fluff story.
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Hazbin threads get weird at night, some you found young even for a fan of this show.
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>>151072609
canon Adam has no romantic interest in Lute either, he "loves" her the same way he loves a very useful tool.
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>>151072618
I had way too many energy drinks, so now I’m up ranting about a show I wanted to love but flopped so bad.
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>>151072620
I don't really knows about that, you at least get the impression that he likes Lute in some fashion, they seem to causally hang out frequently. I think their relationship was probably more along the lines of him not seeing her romantically or sexually because they were bros moreso than him seeing her as a tool.
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>>151072279
Velvette's reactions to Vox's shit are fucking priceless. Really fun to watch in themselves and good show-don't-tell character interaction.
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>>151072605
And wears a pirate hat.
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>>151072620
>>151072630
Adam never had a partner since Eve. It’s probably trauma-related.
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>>151072633
Exactly, because Vivienne is really fucking good when she shows, and doesn’t tell.
One scene I’m thinking of from the first season was Lucifer calling Charlie in episode 5. The gestures, the facial expressions of Lucifer… that was fucking good.
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>>151072548
If she had to deal with a classic Dante-ian Hell as an enemy she'd break very fast.
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>>151072609
Adam probably never fucked any of the Exorcists. They look like Heavenborn, probably the creation of a high ranking angel (Sera?) just like Viv revealed the Goetia were created by Lucifer. And if they were made to be Adam's loyal army their creator will probably expect him not to fuck them (this is Heaven not Hell).
>>151072620
That's bullshit, we don't know if he reciprocates her romantic feelings but they were definitely friends.
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>>151072581
>Stupid, retard, idiotic and moron
dude fucking one and stick to it, i feel even less insult with how much of a mess that was
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>>151072649
Agree with this assessment, especially the more I think about it. Well put.
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>>151072517
>Charlie trying to block the screen overlay made me kek
Same, that was one of the funniest jokes of the pilot for me.
I enjoyed the Helluva Boss pilot, I was looking forward to it being a workplace comedy about them dealing with “clients of the week” and how these imps from Hell navigate Earth (“What the FUCK is insurance?” gave me a chuckle.) I don’t even mind a dumb gay sex joke now and then, but jesus, that became literally the entire show. I came here for wacky demon hijinks, not to watch the Depressed Gay Imp And Owl soap opera every week
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>>151072663
But, then she fucks it up.
>The call finishes
>Lucifer leaves the scene
>”Take that, Depression!”
Holy fuck. How do you fuck up such a well-done scene.
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>>151072673
Why does smiling friends do it better?
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Is Hellaverse a hellish environment for those who despise furries or characters that don't look human-like?
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>>151072681
there's like around 10 characters in the show who look human-like, the rest is furry or alien galore
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>>151072677
Let’s use the “Mr. Frog’s Dad” scene, for example. The monologue about Mr. Frog’s mom dying is so absurd, it’s funny cause it makes no sense with the tone. The disconnect is what makes it funny.

The problem with Hazbin is that the tone is moved too quickly. Yes, it’s a cheerful moment, with a little humor, but she fucking overkills it by having to add a little funny quip.
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>>151072673
>Alastor shows up for the first time in season 2

>Should I? Perhaps! Will I? No! Do I enjoy being difficult? MOST DEFINITELY.

He’s my favorite character and this was embarrassing
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>>151072700
The monologue that was delivered was very disturbing in the smiling friends show. Mr Frog was so caught on doing everything to achieve everything that he ends up overlooking his own mother. That her resurrection would be the one thing couldn’t do anything about. And then the disownment he receives from his father is yet another unmovable obstacle that his strength cannot achieve.
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>>151072725
The key problem here is that Vivienne thinks the audience is too fucking dumb to not pick this shit up. She doesn’t just spoon fed the message, she fucking force feeds the point to you JUST SO YOU DON’T MISS IT.

I feel like Indiana Jones where he’s forced to drink blood in Temple of Doom. Like, I get the fucking point, don’t force it down my throat.
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>>151072733
Exactly. It’s a total shock that is way outta left field. Completely unexpected.

Now, you may say, “what about the Angel Dust scene in Hazbin S2E1?” The difference is that in S1E4, we were told that Angel’s sexual abuse was a serious issue, and not to laugh at. Now, we’re supposed to laugh at it. This, to me, makes no fucking sense.
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>>151072771
I just had this thought now, but maybe because Val thinks its funny? We're kinda viewing that montage from his perspective
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>>151072801
Well, yeah, but it doesn’t really work like that if it’s not exactly from “his point of view”. I mean, watching it happen on a screen, rather than say, in a flashback, doesn’t make it as effective.
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>>151067188
How in the fuck do you die in the afterlife? Is the logic the afterlife is just like an extra life in another plane of existence that was dependent on your last lives plane's choices? Where do you go when you die in hell? Does he just die and disappear now? Is there second heaven?
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>>151072816
>>151072801
The tone of Hazbin hotel makes it really hard because it lacks that sense of realism that Smiling friends has to make the perspective contrast work. It overdramatizes the comedy and the tragedy to the point they fight each other in a wrestling match.
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>>151072771
>>151072801
>>151072816
I thought it was funny because of how absurd it was, not because I think abuse is funny. Nobody is saying Viv approves of feeding women to sharks because that whole bit was played as a joke.
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>>151072827
I dont wanna be mean, but did you watch the show yet?
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>>151072827
A better question is why the fuck are sinners able to bleed when they're supposed to be already dead? They're not biologically alive anymore, are they?
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>>151072827
According to the Old Lore when you die again you basically get absorbed into the fabric of reality that's more like a hivemind.
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>>151072831
Well, yeah, but it’s kind of contradictory to what was originally proposed in Angel’s story. I know that it was meant for laughs, but…
>On one hand, why plays his abuse up so serious if you’re gonna mock it half a season later?
>On the other hand, you could’ve gave us this info in a more subtle manner. It just feels like a “tonal flashbang” to me.
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>>151072843
It's not about mocking Angel's abuse, it's supposed to show how casually cruel and out of touch the Vees are that it circles back around to being so absurd you can't help but laugh. It's not tonal whiplash because it doesn't follow or precede a scene where Angel's abuse is treated more seriously.
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>>151072611
No, I care because it demonstrates how fragile those two are that the stereotypes they cling to is their way of covering their trauma with a wet towel.
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>>151072855
Well, I know it’s not intentionally meant to be mocking, but.. it rubbed me the wrong way, and personally, felt like tonal whiplash to me. This is all my opinion, so take it however you please.
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>>151070925
Vizvie, why do you like to torture this character so much, but the others not?, You come across as a bitter piece of shit
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>>151067188
How do people die in the afterlife anyway? Based on what I've seen I think that the "afterlife" is a second test to see how people deal with different circumstances. There are too many assholes in Heaven to think that they're actually being sorted based on the quality of their soul.
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>>151072867
Oh, shit, my bad. I didn’t mean to be ignorant.
But yeah, they are poorly written, and revolving their personalities around sex jokes goes to show the weakness of Helluva Boss’ writing at times.
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>Vox: Just trust me, just me, trust- us, I meant to say us!
I like how based on Val and Velvette’s reactions they both are aware that Vox would ditch them first opportunity, but they still stick with him to see how far this ride will go.
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>>151072880
I will not be surprised if they were raped by the same guy.
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>>151072902
What?
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They should have released more episodes initially on account of Spookyween.
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>>151072673
>>151072725
>>151072741
you know those two scenes/lines were supposed to be just funny in a simple 'making fun of yourself' way, right? Some of you act like you forget this show is still ultimately a cartoon and expect it to be le deep and super serious all the time or something
corny throwaway one-liners and dumb lampshading the audience moments are normal for a cartoon
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Why the fuck did they decide to release the new EPs during the week instead of on Friday or Saturday, like with the first season? It would've fallen right on Halloween, too.

As a Europoor, this upsets me greatly.
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>>151072771
>Now, we’re supposed to laugh at it. This, to me, makes no fucking sense.
because it's a cartoon and primarily a black comedy series, not some kind of serious morality play or dramedy. How do you autists not understand this obvious fact? It's obviously like that because Vivzie, despite being a tumblrfag, is still a millenial who grew up on older edgier internet and when tumblr was in the 'fujoshis gushing over homo rape and women being raped being assaulted in shoujo works as sexy' era.

Hazbin is the way it is because Vivzie is just into that kind of thing and just finds it funny herself. The sooner you sensitive zoomie fucks comes to terms with this and learn to just fucking deal with it the better.
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>>151073333
Quads of truth. As much as you want to shit on Vivzie for being a tumblrina and Deviantard, she still grew up on the internet when it was the wild west, and both of her shows make that obvious.

If you consider that at least half of all Tumblrinas and Deviantards are also raging /b/tards, you'll realise that Vivzie's shows might just be the old internet's greatest and last hurrah.
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>cunt cunt cuntitty cunt
Why are aussies like this?
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>>151072355
Is't he mixed?
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>>151073333
>>151073345
Viv can make rape jokes if she wants, she just can't have it both ways. It's either serious or silly, pick one.
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>>151073543
one drop rule
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>>151073311
Way to totally miss the point genius.
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>>151073377
Piss off cunt.
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>>151073731
The zoomer, incapable of nuance, rears its ugly head to berate those who possess abilities that it does not.
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>>151073377
Australian in a room with a Britfag.
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It is interesting that Lute's imaginary Adam does not have a halo. He is probably "alive" in some form influencing her from the halo she wears on her prosthetic arm.
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>>151073893
How is different from the “very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty” copypasta? Like, nothing in Hazbin is subtle at all.
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>>151074115
We don't stream

To busy staring at phone posting
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>>151074126
What?
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>>151071403
Shut up, fag
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By the end of Season 2 where do you think Hazbin will be. Will it be better, same, or will Viv have driven it into the deck by then?
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>>151073333
I know it’s a black comedy, but the way the show is written at times, it feels like she wanted a dramaedy. It feels like Jekyll and Hyde working on the show.
I get that this is for 90’s fujos, but I wasn’t raised in that era. I know nothing about that. I walked in because I thought the animation looked nice, and I remember Vivziepop when she made that “Die Young” animation. I didn’t know all the other shit about her. And I’m not saying all the comedy is ass, or too edgy. I’ve laughed at some of the jokes, albeit rarely. And I wanna understand the thought process behind her work, but, I’ll admit, I was never really taught how to analyze stuff critically on my own without someone explaining the theme to me.
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>>151074271
For now, it sounds like the consensus is that the episodes are better. If she pulls this off, I think she can redeem her show. At least, in my opinion.
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>>151074271
This seems like a filler season so Vox better carry it.
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>>151070918
What did she mean by that?
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>>151071178
Nobody poops in heaven, that's why its heaven.
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>>151072181
She would congratulate him, and in fact want to fuck him even more than she does already. Be his best if she can't be his first. And she would, what angle could be hotter or more freaky than that tall glass of 'strayan cyclops? Unlike heaven's reheated Charlie, Cherry actually knows what she's doing with those two cocks
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>>151072092
>>151072094
Wasn't he supposed to be like 50 years old?
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>>151072657
In Dante's Divine Comedy, She would have a Heaven lead by Papa Big G who would this out just snapping his finger and making a holy force field to protect all the planes of Heaven and just by snapping his fingers again, he would turn all the scary demons into chihuahua puppies
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>>151074676
Sort this out, oops
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>>151072094
Did they forget he had a son or was that just a random thing he blurted out in episode 1?
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>>151074696
This is what happens when a man hating bitch from Tumblr design the men, femenine prettyboys galore
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>>151071619
Sera probably thinks that Lute will have a school shooter moment if she fires her, which is probably a correct assumption
>you guys were cool, don't go to the Speaker's chamber tomorrow
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>>151071619
If Sera didn't give Lute a chance for redemption, she wouldn't deserve one herself.
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>>151074733
The pilot is non-cannon.
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>>151071911
>Charles is voiced by Charlie Day
It'd be entertaining.
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>>151073377
>OI CUNT SMESH ME CUNT HARDER OOOH LIKE THAT YOU FUCKIN CUNT OH ME CUNT IM CUNTING
God i want to fuck her so bad.
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>>151074829
They decided to make it canon in the show with making Heaven evil and incompetent, Nigga, also they made it into another eternal Furcon, fucking Vivzie, I swear to Christ
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>>151072181
Bro? The sex room?
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>>151071554
Only the severely mentally ill take the asexual stuff seriously
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>>151074829
The pilot is canon in terms of story beats but some minor details were changed, like Lucifer apparently calling Charlie a disappointment and him hanging out with the Overlords.
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>>151074537
>Emily have same height as Charlie who is not short herself
>but because she hangs with huge bitch Sera she appears small and childlike
I find it so funny



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