Hazbin Hotel - How will Vivzie fuck it up?I'm just waiting for the cringe/shocker episodes that will be inevitable.Also theory thread.
I want to make cambions with Charlie
So how true do you think the wholeRosie = Lilith Lilith = Eve/Root of all Evil plotwist?
>>151072730Stupid and not worth the mystery .Alastor is a FRAUD
>>151072730Rosie is hellborn so she's not technically white
>>151072749Eh apparently Tv Tropes has lots of leaks available.This is how season 2 ends... allegedly.
>>151072778This was just some twitter users speculation, they got a lot about episode 2 wrong IIRC
>>151072786Ya sure about that?
>>151072794Lucifer's VA said he recorded for season 3
>>151072806Doesn't seem like the summaries are too off, so Im inclined to believe them.
>>151072817Your summaries don't say Lucifer dies though, so either he's not dead in the storyboard or that's someone else. And Charlie's not standing like someone who just found her dead dad.
>>151072721What about making nephilims with Emily? I think she'd like human cock too.
>>151072838I’m pretty sure he gets his ass whooped, but not killed. Like Alastor in Season 1.
>>151072713She already fucked it up. The concept in of itself is retarded but her complete ignorance towards the most basic aspects of Abrahamic mythology is baffling. Its to the point where fucking Dante is looking more tactful that she is and he literally wrote self insert fanfiction where he and his idol went through Hell just to find his waifu (a women he had not even spoken to irl) and portrayed people that he didn't like burning in Hell and ending with him going to Heaven. How do you out cringe that?!
>>151072986abrahamic mythology should be discarded and insulted tho, fuck all that shit
>>151073048Why? Especially when the entire show is based around it?
>>151073055Because it ruined western civilization is why. Also its not supposed to be le accurate bible fanfic its its own thing so i dont get pedantic nitpicks like yours from here
>>151072713>How will Vivzie fuck it up-Israel Palestine allegory.She likes to pretend it isn't but it is going to be.>Genocide excused cause "you didn't know it was bad" from both Charlie and the speaker for God.>One side being extremist about revenge.>False flag attack episodes>Lute is going to instigate a 'beeper' moment in Hell.>"Ceasefire" immediately broken by both sides.>Hotel gets ruined, and set up for season 3 is a FF6 Angel Dust gathering everyone together friends montage.>Baxter learns less about redemption and more what the angels and exorcists in the know are doing with dead sinners souls.
>>151072730>Alastor is black>when he was voiced by white guys in pilot who replaced by iranian guy in full series
>>151073078Seething about Christianity won't make your childhood trauma go away, and pointing out basic shit being messed up isn't being pedantic. This isn't saying the chariots don't have the right number of eyes its about fundamental shit that even people that have never actually read the Bible would call out.
>>151073187I could actually see her doing this.She handles these heavy topics with severe tone-deafness and I'm sure season 2 will be as controversial as season1 was.If not more so.>>151072986Yeah, story-telling is not her strong-suit, even with millions of dollars thrown at this project it continues to be so fucking shit.She must be intentionally sabotaging her writing team at this point.
>>151073211It doesnt fucking matter because the source material is crazy dogshit anyways and this was never meant to be biblically accurate at all
>>151072730seems like win win to me, if you are actually making a point about real life.
>>151072775>Rosie is hellbornnot canon
In this gay ass show
The best ship is the straight one
>>151073576>>151073581I need art of lute taking adams dick more
>>151073581why wouldnt it bethe only other ships are huskerdust, which is not canon yet, vaggie/charlie which not even viv cares about, and lilth/lucifer which is borderline emotional abuse
>>151073187who's the US in this scenerio? Adam's minions?
Consensual vaginal sex with Emily for pleasure
>Cause heaven is forever whether you like it or not!!
>>151073742I wanna fuck peter
>>151073742>Pentious still has to be a snake guy in heavenI thought furries/scallies was only a hell thing? Why is he still an animal?
>>151073773Bitchzie is a furrytard, what do you expect?
is there a version of the recap song without the sound effects?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgjfF--1-iw
>>151072730God I want to fuck her while using her dress as a condom
>>151072713What's there to fuck up? Viziepop cartoons are already pure evil.Also, today is the most evil/scary day of the year, so now is the perfect opportunity to talk about viziepop cartoons. Too bad you faggots talk about them every day so it's not special anymore.
>>151073818It STINKS, just like the show, they did so dirty to Adam and Eve in this shitty ass fanfic, SWEET JESUS, but at least Alastard does something useful for once throws the blame to those who are actually guilty for Mankind going to the trash in this show to Lilibitch and LucifagStill, Vivzie is fat-tard bitch
>>151073742>Man I'm so sad I get to live in eternal paradise and not meet my crackhead retard friendsI'll admit I didn't really get Pentius' arc for that episode
>>151073773You can see in season 1 that heaven is full of furries.
>>151073986He made a connection with the people in hell and now he's being told he can never see them againWhen you said decades in that place you kind of get used to the horribleness Like this place
>>151074091At least in 4chan, you don't get raped while your ''friend'' don't do jack shit to stop it
>>151074114Of course this ain't dischords
>>151074114Yeah, but Vivziepop wrote that scene for laughs than actually serious content. As stupid as it sounds.
>>151074175Well, it didn't make me laugh, it made me wanna punch the writers in the face, which is actually funny
>the only positive things I'm seeing about S2 is that human Pentious is cutelol
>>151074091>He made a connection with the people in hell and now he's being told he can never see them againIs this kind of like how black people study and elevate themselves out of the ghetto only to go back because they miss their hoodrat friends
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>>151074208> made me wanna punch the writers in the faceImagine being a Pilot Alastor fan (me). 15 9/11s.
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>>151074361Anon, is this you, or somebody else?
>>151074379Somebody else. Got it off twitter
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>>151074349Yeah, I know, my dude, I'm very sorry for you
>>151074538Then again, I think the Pilot fucked it up from the very beginning making Heaven the big bad
>>151073986He just spent 100+ years in hell, managed to actually connect with some people, ended up double dead, and then woke up in Heaven where he was immediately imprisoned for a month before being trotted out in front of the big wigs to pass judgement on him. He is asked to spill his guts, and then he's promptly back to being ignored until he gets assigned an angel to love bomb him while they avoid his one question: "Did my friends all die?" Factor in that he might be under the impression they think HE killed Adam because he's not sure if his deathray went off or not and they were kind of vague when Lute was bitching, and he doesn't know what to make of the situation. Remember, everyone in hell has to be hyper-vigilant all the time, so he's basically also suffering PTSD being constantly bombarded with the sounds and sights of the realm of a people who were trying to exterminate him a month ago. At least his crackhead retard friends behave in a way that made sense.
>>151072721100% agreement. It's even a big part of why I wound up embracing the slop.Nobody can produce it in the quantity my loins demand.
>>151074791This is what that Antichrist bitch dyke deserve, to become a sex slave
>>151072730Just don't make alastor black?
>>151072730he is mixed brown
>>151072817>Angel's earthly sin that sent him to hellbeing a homofaggot duh
>>151072713She already fucked up from the beginning by failing to stick to the premise the second season is seemingly focusing on. Everything else like the terrible world building, biases, & disrespect to Christianity just adds more onto that.
>>151075845Drug addict, hooker, homo, killer... Take your pick.
>>151073742I still would pick Hazbin-Heaven over Hazbin-Hell any day of the week.
>>151072730Worse. Rosie is Jewish. Tying into the Lilith "twist".
>>151076267and now he's dead
>>151076374He died for Sir Pentious's sins.
Mammon is the only good bad guy in this hazbinverse, whatever we call it. Everyone else is either gay or retarded.
>>151076267Based and true
Imagine this being your daughter.
So the Speaker of God is the closest character we'll have to God? How powerful is she then?
How do we call the VVVictim girl? And her x Baxter when?
Reminder that this season is confirmed to have a more or less happy ending and nothing groundbreaking happens. Apparently there isn't even a stinger this time. No Lucifer death, no sinner Adam, no more Lilith than what we saw, nothing. And Lute's arc goes nowhere interesting despite the set up.
>>151076825>So the Speaker of God is the closest character we'll have to God?God exists but won't show up (so claims Viv) so technically yes.>How powerful is she then?We don't know. She hasn't really done anything.
>>151074392Snake Pentious will always be supreme, but god damn if his human form isn't cute.
I'm glad Pentious is a snake, his human form is extremely fruity
>>151076910>ywn be a delicate Victorian Era citizen going about your day trying to dodge chamber pots and roving bands of street urchins when you spot a beautiful man shyly watching you from his window who quickly hides when you turn to look at him
>>151073048Shalom
>>151076910I need him like a fish needs water
>>151076926>Charlie/Voxsuper underrated
uxudo
>>151073414The books of Conan The Barbarian and The Lord of The Rings have a lot of crazy dogshit too, but everyone wants them adapted with proper respect
>>151077034This isn't an adaptation and if you were to compare every piece of media that makes light of biblical figures Hazbin Hotel would be among the least offensive.
>>151072986Every single rendition of Christianity in mainstream media takes liberties because we live under capitalism where everything and everyone sells. Also you're not special for LARPing as a devout Christian.>>151077034Zoomers and gen alphas don't even know what Conan is, it's a pretty old franchise.
>>151077242Hello.
>Sir Pentious’ sin is gawking and refusing to report Jack out of cowardice.What angels will be in the latter?
>>151077591what
>>151075845Peter and Abel are for sure fucking
Sooo will these two overlords get any relevance? They're the most shafted of the bunch.
I feel sorry for Sera, she has to tard wrangle a whole shifting paradigm crisis. I'll be pleasantly surprised if the show portrays her sympathetically.
Voxs shark is going to be another Niffty victim, isn´t it.
Why is the concept of evil a separate character?Isn't that what the Seven Deadly Sins are supposed to be? They're the embodiment of the different aspects of man's malice.
>>151077950>Why is the concept of evil a separate character?Is that not just a primordial being? And isn't the whole "there were initially two that then split/create into many more" thing like a staple of some really old mythologies?
>>151076267You could basically make this into a meme that pokes fun at the Adam-centric fanfics on AO3 were he's made to be in the right and/or is an all powerful demigod that btfos Lucifer
>>151078050I know most won't care but it's funny seeing the show slowly answer the questions they've been smugly acting like the writers hadn't considered because a lot of them seem to think that Charlie said everyone should just be let into heaven no questions asked.
I don't care what any of you say I think the reporter killing his wife gag was funny
Can someone just leak the whole thing because I seriously can't be fucked to wait a week every time or whatever
>>151078434Sorry the five-year-olds on discord have been sent to time out until November 20th
>>151077950Because Viv woobified the Sins into le misunderstood and not that bad so we need her to make an OC that takes their role
>>151072730i wish that was me
>>151078538which one
>>151078434Anon, learn patience, it's a virtue.
>>151074217>>151074311>>151074343>>151074361How did such cute guy end up in hell? He is too precious to be judged as a sinner, is the heavenly jury completely blind?
>>151078550Alastor I want Rosie to do bad things to me
>>151072730>that whole post.Fucker, I'm gonna assume that Alastor being bound in servitude is a bad thing, so I'm not getting why this would cause more debates.
HELLO THREAD
>>151078576He didn't stick it to the man.I wonder if it's a coincidence that his sin on Earth was not telling on Jack the ripper, while in Hell he kept picking fights with Alastor, another serial killer.
Give me some spoilers on Vox.
>>151078410The fact that they recycled the same animation three times was funnier
I wonder if Cain will show up. Or is he still hanging out in the Land of Nod (wherever that is)?
>>151078673Hope Pentious cucks Cherri with her
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>>151078673Sit on my face, Emily
>>151078658It's just going to be a repeat of the Val smacking Angel montage because people think if a character is charming enough the writers want you to ignore or applaud their horrific actions. People will feel especially betrayed because it's Rosie and season 1 made us think she was a good (relative) person. It's a little more tone deaf compared to the Val thing but we're clearly going to end up rooting for Alastor to get out of the deal.
>>1510772421. They're not liberties its ignoring fundamental shit2. I am not a Christian, nor did I ever claim to be.3. Again crying about Christianity won't unfuck your childhood.
>>151078900>They're not liberties its ignoring fundamental shitWho cares, this show isn't actually trying to say anything about Christianity
>>151073414If it didn't matter you wouldn't be here trying to defend it happening. And its not a matter of total biblical accuracy and I already said that. Its just creating a cohesive narrative and setting. Most of the work is already done for her. Do you not care about that and just want gay furry sing song shit while telling yourself you are a rebel? Because you can get that elsewhere plenty of retards on wattpad that make better shit that this.
>>151078937Oh so you're mad the show's a hit
>>151078050Adam fans are weird because there's, like, two distinct camps:>People who like him because he's a funny asshole>People who straight-up headcanon an entirely different character and give him the same name and designYou see this a bit with other characters like Stella, but I think it's more pronounced with Adam
>>151078908Why is you go to cope saying "who cares" genuinly what kind of mong do you have to be to say that while arguing and trying to defend it. I will spell it out for you Y-O-U C-A-R-E. If you didnt you would not be here.>this show isn't actually trying to say anything about ChristianityIt's literally going into how unfair eternal damnation is you dishonest retard.
>>151078951So you realized that you can't argue or refute what I am saying so instead have to cope and say I am mad about the shows success? How predictable.
>>151078960I don't actually care/mind if people are upset that it's inaccurate (though you shouldn't be watching this if it's THAT big of a deal to you), I'm annoyed that you're still here after two years and clogging up threads with nothing new to say. At this point you're just making yourself mad on purpose.
>>151078900And I didn't "cry about Christianity", but you assume that anyway. I'm above the culture war, while you can only think in its terms. You're just another flavor of wannabe rebel, only in the opposite direction of the fans of the show. This whole argument about being unfaithful is just an excuse to complain about something for which you were never the target audience. Derivative works don't owe it to anyone to be faithful to their source material.
>>151072794He probably just gets his ass kicked
>>151074091Also he doesn't get to do anything with his cool weapons in heaven either
People cry about this show saying "maybe redemption is possible :)" then go to their megachurches where their $2k sweater-wearing pastor with two houses and private jet flies around on a harness asking you to donate while they have some suspiciously erotic flash dancing for Jesus going on on stage. There's just so much more wrong with both shows and Viv's writing than "they made Adam into a frat boy who got killed by a roach girl".
>>151076267The show almost filtered me halfway through the first episode of Season 1 until Adam showed up with Hell is Forever, then I was hooked.
>>151078736Why?Have you watched the episode?
>>151078736The big shark is his secret weapon. He maybe hypnotizes Lucifer. He likely physically makes it into heaven and we see his past and human form in the big crystal ball.
>>151079033>>151079051Tell me what is actually good about this show and how its good? You seem to have nothing and are just complaining that people are criticizing it. Like you keep ignoring everything you can't argue because you know its ass but can't let yourself admit you have shit taste and are just here to have a gay circlejerk about retarded demons crying about how they can be good while swearing and singing. Also what kind of pathetic autist has to samefag like this, seriously how devoid of an argument and assblasted do you have to be to larp as another person. Newsflash retard being wrong in stereo won't make what you said true.>And I didn't "cry about Christianity", but you assume that anywayYou literally started bitching about me larping as a Christian.>I'm above the culture warYet here you are bringing it up despite it being unrelated to anything going on. Nice self report sperg. >no u wannabe rebelI see I hit a nerve. You need to project your own bullshit onto me after you were called out.>This whole argument about being unfaithful is just an excuse to complainIts not, you are just throwing a hissy fit due to being unable to defend your position.>Derivative works don't owe it to anyone to be faithful to their source materialThey do have to make sense, and this shit does not given the setting.
>>151076738HA implies i had sex, but with a mime or something
>>151079144fuck sorry for double post, i thought this was a different thread
>>151079153This show isn't good. I'm saying that the bitching about how it gets Christian mythos wrong is annoying. You should've been aware from the first line of the show's premise that this wasn't going to be accurate. Why are you still here after two (six if you want to count the pilot) years raging about this?
>>151078501Can people stop with this retarded shit?The sins being villains couldn't work because they'd just be reskinned versions of other antagonists.Lust? Valentino.Gluttony? Adam.Wrath? Lute.Sloth? Stella.So on and so forth.Let's imagine a hypothetical world where Asmodeus is just "Rapist McGee" like Valentino.What does making Fizz get raped add to the story? Nothing. If anything it would make him Angel Dust 2.0. Now to get around that, we just cut the relationship entirely and make Fizz in a relationship with another character who has the exact same personality and role in the story as Ozzie. Oh but wait! Since Asmodeus is Rapist McGee in this hypothetical, it would be "disrespectful to victims" for Viv to not include a subplot about him raping someone which means we need A WHOLE FUCKING EPISODE dedicated to Asmodeus raping a random side character, and unlike Angel this character would not be a part of the main cast (unless they want to do a subplot where Moxie or Millie gets raped) so it adds absolutely fucking nothing to the narrative.I'm not saying you can't criticize the sins or their writing (personally, I hate Bee because her character only exists for Loona to have angst about the guy she likes or something) but it's not a flaw for them not to be villains.
>>151079186It's only annoying because you lost the argument and have to cope with me reminding you you have shit taste. >Why are you still here after two (six if you want to count the pilot) years raging about thisBecause the show is still going and is still dogshit. Why are you still having these retarded gay circlejerks for a shitty show?
>>151078828HUGE angel booty
>>151079240>It's only annoying because you lost the argumentI'm not the other guy you've been talking to
>>151079249You're the same person and I called that out only for you to ignore it like you do whenever you get called out.
>>151079153>>151079153>Tell me what is actually good about this show and how its good?I wouldn't call myself a fan but I like the songs and some of the characters + it's one of a handful of cartoons where women have boobs>You literally started bitching about me larping as a Christian.Sure thing, because that's what you're doing. You're pretending like staying faithful to source material is super important in this specific case and this specific case only, because you and the show are on the different sides of the culture war.>defend your position.Defend against what? You haven't given a single specific example of how "nothing makes sense", just vagueposted a lot. You do realize that being a critic does not automatically make you more intellectual, right? You actually have to argue your points. Sounds like someone here's committing the sin of pride.
Watching this show with my Christian husband (who's a good sport) is fun.>What? Peter was a badass, he's not just a dorky door guy, come on>These angels aren't humble or christlike at ALL!>*dramatic annoyed sigh every time Angel Dust is on screen*
>>151079263I am not.
>>151079270>>151079288>I wouldn't call myself a fanYet here you are crying about me calling it out and trying and failing to argue going so far as samefagging just to try and get by.>Sure thing, because that's what you're doingYou going back to this after running away from it just shows how devoid of any argument you are. I would say you are pathetic again but given you are probably one of those self deprecating retards you already know and it does not bother you.>You're pretending like staying faithful to source material is super important in this specific caseI was pointing out how it needs to make sense but nice strawman. >because you and the show are on the different sides of the culture warHere you are again bringing up your pathetic culture war shit when all of my gripes have been more or less about the writing of the show. Again nice self report.>Defend against whatWhat I have said but since you can't you have to pretend its not there to cope, like a child closing their eyes, covering their ears, and screaming. >You haven't given a single specific example of how "nothing makes sense"Thank you for showing that you are effectively crying about something you don't know about being called out. The shit that is wrong with the show is extremely surface level Christian stuff yet here you are completely unaware of it. Where is Jesus, answer that question, if you can that is.>You do realize that being a critic does not automatically make you more intellectualYou do know this is not reddit right?>You actually have to argue your pointsI did and you have nothing but crying and copes.>I am notYou have yet to prove you are a different person.
>>151079409Dude that's not me
>>151079409>>151079440
>>151079467Well ok
>>151077034Because stuff like conan actually deserves to be respected while bibkes belong in a bonfire
>>151079284Everyone should dramatically sigh when Angel Dust comes up, he's the vestigial extra arm of early concepts.
>>151079440>cropped screencapInstead of being in this circlejerk you should learn to not be such a histrionic retard that has to seethe and larp as multiple people whenever he gets btfo.
I like the show but I do agree that any Biblical fiction that doesn't mention Jesus (i.e. the literal center of the Christian faith) is really half-assing the setting.I've read battle shonen that at least got that much right
>>151079502>while bibkes belong in a bonfireWhat does this have to do with bikes?
>>151079536This seems cool, what is it from?
>>151079531I'm too stupid to think I'm smart enough to think I could get away with pretending to be two people lol
>>151079557read the file name
Any good lewd fics? Searching ao3 is hell.
>>151079561You are doing it and you have to play dumb to cope and make it look like you don't care. Remember this is the average HHfag, mentally ill, dishonest, and cowardly. I suppose that's why you relate more with demons than actual people.
>>151079619>You are doing itWhat like Fight Club? I didn't know I could do that.
Abel is a schmuck, show needs to add Saint George.
>>151079409>Thank you for showing that you are effectively crying about something you don't know about being called out. The shit that is wrong with the show is extremely surface level Christian stuff yet here you are completely unaware of it. Where is Jesus, answer that question, if you can that is.Vivzie has enough common sense to realize that literally depicting Jesus and God would be in bad taste, even for an edgy sparkledog furry demon show. These figures have not only a level of mystique and cult of personality around them, but personal attachment from millions of people, to the point where showing a specific interpretation of them would be offensive (as opposed to the figure of Adam whom no one really reveres). And snce we live under capitalism, Vivzie is looking for her project to be a commercial success, not make a contrarian statement and offend everyone.Alternatively, I'm wrong and Jesus and God are eventually gonna appear as furry sparkledogs too, but showing the head honchos in S1 would've been blowing your load early and leaving no room for more, this is basic serialized storytelling.Is this the only criticism you have? You wrote such a lengthy post full of bitching over this? Well, no, you, didn't. Refer to my earlier statement.>Sure thing, because that's what you're doing. You're pretending like staying faithful to source material is super important in this specific case and this specific case only, because you and the show are on the different sides of the culture war.
>>151079658monty python film was literally banned in one country for depicting jesus. the only thing jesus actually does in that film is say nice things, from such a distance you don't know what he's saying.
>>151079108I mean, yeah, but that’s more of a critique of the fans than the show.
>>151079645>>151079658Why do you need to act like this whenever you fail? Why do you need to try and make it seem as if you don't care and that you are actually dumb? Because everything up to this point contradicts that and the second I pointed out how you cropped your screencap you just deflected instead of posting an uncropped version. I am assuming you are using 4chanX or some other browser extension, perhaps inspect element, or if you are too dumb for either of those you would just post from two devices. >Vivzie has enough common sense to realize that literally depicting Jesus and God would be in bad tasteRetarded cope, given that its already in bad taste and it reeks of cowardice. Jesus is already in the picture due to Hell and Peter being in the story. Not having either Jesus or God is just another layer of retardation on this cake of incompetence. >These figures have not only a level of mystiqueGod maybe, but Big J is not mysterious at all, people know him and that is the point. >to the point where showing a specific interpretation of them would be offensiveYou say that as if this show is not about the daughter of Lucifer trying to get demons into Heaven and questioning the concept of Hell itself and eternal damnation. >cult of personality around themThe more you say shit like this the more you childish disdain for the faith becomes.>as opposed to the figure of Adam whom no one really reveresHe is the first man you dolt, he is a pivotal figure throughout Abrahamic mythology. He's not some random guy, he is the literal first man.>Is this the only criticism you haveThere is also the absolutely braindead idea that the damned can just be redeemed from Hell, the fact that Hell is pussified to make that idea easier to swallow, there being a 'super hell" for especially bad people.
>>151079903>There is also the absolutely braindead idea that the damned can just be redeemed from HellTo Viv's credit, this is not a new idea in Christianity.C.S. Lewis famously wrote a story with this premise
>>151072713It's already fucked up.All that matters is seeing how low it can sink before it drowns
>>151079958I want you to think how both were done and if it ever called the very concept of cosmology into question and was centered in a kind of "say your sowwy and its okay" bullshit.
Happy sex, impregnation, hand holding, leg lock, marriage, making a family and growing old with Lute.
So they've been there for thousands of years and nobody fucking figured out that oh, fixing the sin of your life could redeem you imagine how retarded they all are, in both realmsdo not redeem
>>151080043It just means that literally no one tried before.
>>151079969Indeed, but no need to be upset Anon just think of Emily being happy and baking bread with her or taking Lucyfer on a trip to the Bass Pro pyramid.
>>151080043as far as Heaven knew and was concerned, final judgements were just that, FINAL. There was not even a thought towards redemption of sinners in Hell.as for Sinners in Hell, most of them once they get there end up going "oh well I'm already in Hell might as well sin some more!" and end up worse, look at Pentious who went from a shy quiet guilt-ridden man to a laughing maniacal lunatic exploding buildings and shit.
>shut up abel, Adam didn't even fucking like you>I know>*Peter chuckles*>*Emily looks at him like -_-*So Abel is just a punching bag.
>>151080063>God never told them>Jesus never told them>no one in hell was ever penitent and was happy being scum
>>151080068I'm afraid they'll probably fuck up Emily somehow too
>>151080171I know Anon, just accept they already have and will, best to move on from that, just be apathetic about the show post-pilot and love the goofball for what she could have been and not what they flanderized into existence.
>>151080171She will fall and become like Lucifer. The end will be the same "tis better to reign in Hell" and Hell is the new utopia where all the dead go and live in peace.
>>151080013What's he planning?
>>151080269Impressing Lute with an even better more thorough genocide of Hell.>"dad would be proud of me now right?"
>>151080142Will Jesus even exist in the series I would love to see him stop Lute’s pan of taking over heaven.
>>151080142NTAYRT but I think they’re saying it’s awfully convenient that no one has EVER found out how to do it before.
>>151080308I’d only believe this if Lute somehow corrupted Abel by manipulating him intensely.
>>151080352He exists because they make references to the cross but according to old Viv lore, she doesn't intend on having him show up.>>151080369We're not even sure what exactly made Pentious ascend so I get it.
>>151080398Peter is like right there too.
>>151080369That is what is known as shitty writing.
>>151080398I believe what made Pen ascend was that he defied the sin that was the reason for him going to hell. It’s very implied that after witnessing the murder, instead of calling the police, he just stood by, and then later killed himself out of cowardice. He’s in Heaven because he, well, threw away his cowardice.
>>151080428Well, I don’t write the show, so don’t shoot the messenger.
>>151080474I didn't say you did. Just pointed out what it was.
>Heaven is full of Seraphim>Lute has to handle the big guy they are scared of insteadThrow them to hell.
>>151080457Yeah but what exactly about him making a stand against Adam that worked? Was it just the act itself, was it he had learned the value of loving others, was it because he was willing to die, was it because he did die?
>>151080497>Lute has to handle the big guy they are scared of instead? Adam? Sera was able to command him down in season 1.
>>151080503The plot demanded it to happen so it happened.
>>151080503They don’t explain that, but probably will later. I think the main thing was that he chose self-sacrifice and changing his ways, alongside martyrdom.Though part of me believes that his and Adam’s deaths served as a form of equivalent exchange.
>>151080523Cool talk
>>151080517No. Lucifer.
>>151080562Lucifer's not doing anything the Vees are
>>151080569AI Lilith.
NOW REPEAT AFTER ME: hi we're the Smooling Fronds-
>>151080503Presumably it was his willingness to take a stand and fight for his friends, even if it would cost him his life.His major sin from his life on earth was Sloth, not doing the right thing because he was afraid or indifferent, so by choosing this time to do something, to do the right thing, he overcame his Sin and was redeemed.
>>151080586Oh my god you're everywhere
>>151080600NTAYRT. Yeah, you said what i said, but better.
>>151080609I am. Chat G b 1
>>151080600>an evil demon dying for evil demons is what makes him go to heaven
>>151078747KANE LIVES IN DEATH
>>151080685You can't kill the Messiah.
>>151080142I mean i agree with you but it is what it is.
>>151080269I literally couldn't have made it cleared.
>>151078747Santa Monica
>>151080063>>151080095No, fucking think about it. Fine, then Charlie, for this long, and everyone around her, not even ONCE asked themselves like, WHY is the sinner there. The angels in S01E06 as well, when they were brainstorming. Like holy shit when you think about it you might realize how retarded this whole concept is.
>>151080765I mean, considering the relative intelligence of the Morningstars, are we surprised none of them knew?
>>151080835Knew what? I get it that nobody did it before. But, they ask themselves the question - how do we redeem them. Uhh have them not drink and like, be cool and vibe and shit? For neither AD or Pentious they asked themselves uh, why are these guys where. What got them here. Fucking drives me nuts we just go along with this teenage shit
New titles and singers for the songs got leaked.Everyone ready to see Rosie make Alastor her bitch on Wednesday?
>>151080982>Piss (A Love Song)great
Lute isn't gonna kill Lucifer. Bros it's overhttps://www.radiotimes.com/tv/fantasy/hazbin-hotel-season-2-lucifer-alastor-exclusive-newsupdate/
>>151081055Well duh are you retarded? I'm thinking Luc is getting redeemed
>>151080982>Speedrun to Redemption“Speedrun?” Seriously?Also, I so fucking called that Charlie’s gonna try to murk Husk/Angel.
>>151081093Lucifer? Redeemed? What? He’s not human, it doesn’t work like that.
>>151080982Anybody have any ideas what the Reprise is gonna be about?
>>151081125I theorize it's gonna be Vox capturing Alastor. The leaks showed Al being tied up so it's likely that scene.
>>151081110FAFO
>>151081136Yeah, now i realize it, but…Considering the song, I’m thinking that Alastor’s gonna be hypnotized to make a deal with Vox/Pilot the ShockWav.
>>151080982>piss
>>151080982>Piss I hope, I'm being baited here...
>>151081214I think that’s the Cherri/Pentious love song.
Need angel wife.
>>151080982>One of the songs is called PissWhy does this show love to be immature every chance it gets?
>>151072730>confirmed blackHe’s mixed
>>151081270>Why does this show love to be immature every chance it gets?You (and even I) forget who writes for this show and who this show's core audience is.
>>151081252I acted like this and they dumped me btw
>>151081319I wanna be a fan of this show, but fuck, the show/fandom keeps embarrassing itself bi-weekly.
>>151080982>Clean It Up Jannie!What did Viv mean by this?
Brb gonna make a thread for the new Amazon Music Leak.
>My dear child, please, tell us your storySooo.. there are these tags on pixiv...
>>151080982>alastor is going to be raped by two white people in the same episode what did viv mean by this?
>>151081538Alastor fans (me) on suicide watch.
>>151081356I'm not a fan of the show or even HB, I just engage with these threads to practice my own writing, such as writing greens, brainstorming ideas on how to improve the shows and too shitpost. I forget what the quote exactly is or where he said this but regarding Alan Moore, he was correct about one thing, if you want to learn how to write, read bad books. So I took upon the task of observing the shows on how to not write so terribly and by the Lord above these shows have indeed been a valuable asset, as they go on I get more disappointed on such wasted potential. I actually published a short story today that I've been working on for the week an a half.
>>151080982>Piss (A Love Song)
The real flaw with the heaven/hell system in this show is that all the minor sinners get dumped with the monsters like the V's to form a self-perpetuating loop of debauchery and suffering.Pentious's sin was cowardice in the face of evil and after spending nearly 150 years in hell he never really got into any of the degeneracy so he just needed to fix the one thing. Charlie should really be setting out to build purgatory.
>>151081573Honestly, valid. Bonus points for being an Alan Moore fan.And I was thinking the exact same thing about wasted potential. There are scenes where it is genuinely so good, and then the quality drops like a fucking anvil.
It was fucking funny where are my yous. You are all going to hell
anyone else notice /hhg/ died? I didn't go on the forums, no idea their reputation here, but I was watching the show there god damnit!!
>Just watched the first episodes of season 2.>Apparently Velvette publicly fucked Carmilla.Did I hear that right? I could have sworn Vox said somthing about Velvette fucking Carmilla in front of the other overlords And if it did happen why weren't we shown Viv?It's not like Viv is against enemies to lovers gay shit.
>>151081720> It's not like Viv is against enemies to lovers gay shit.Oh, god. She might make Lucifer x Alastor canon.God help us all.
>>151081743NOOOOOO! HE'S THE ONLY CHARACTER THAT'S IN HELL I LIKE!
>>151074371why his back look so big in this pic.>>151074378>>151074392>>151074408I can't say it in public because I don't want people thinking I actually like this show but god he is so fuckable.
>>151081634>The real flaw with the heaven/hell system in this show is that all the minor sinners get dumped with the monsters like the V's to form a self-perpetuating loop of debauchery and sufferingGosh, it's almost like THAT'S THE FUCKING POINT. Hell in this verse is a social darwinist crab bucket, anyone who shows weakness gets stomped on and anyone who tries to better themselves gets laughed at. Charlie can only get away with being nice because she's not a regular sinner demon or an imp, she's not an Overlord or one of the Sins, she's the goddamn Princess of Hell, the second-most powerful person down there, and even then no one took her seriously until she started showing how strong she actually is. They mock her, but most of them aren't dumb enough to do more than that if it risks putting them in Lucifer's crosshairs. Point is, Hell isn't a place where being good is encouraged.
>>151076267I wonder why they didn't take the opportunity to send him to hell after he died in the afterlife, like how they sent pentious to heaven after he also died in the afterlife.
>>151081055He's my favorite so I'm glad he at least gets to see one more season
>>151072713What's the chances that she grew up very shelter?
That portal sound that Adam pulled Charlie and Vaggie through back to hell in ep 6 season 1 is the same sound the portal in Rick and Morty made in Rickmurai Jack (scene in rel). I thought you should know
>>151081827Because Baxter's going to try and reanimate his corpse
>>151081827If he's not perma-dead then they're probably saving it for a big reveal.
>>151081720“Fucking with” as in messing with; remember the overlord meeting organized by Carmila that Velvette crashed? That’s what Vox is talking about.
>>151081868I think he’s probably staying until the end. He’s definitely dying, but no time soon.Though, expect him to get his ass whooped by the ShockWav.
Sex with charlie
You know, Pent surviving in hell for like 150 years is actually pretty impressive, that's hundreds of exterminations he managed to evade.Its like how Zestial is apparently one of the oldest Overlords, yet he's maybe 500 based on his Shakespearean speech style, like there's no sinners that reach their 1000s cause Adam and his bitches slaughter them all.
>>151081994Gotcha. No toxic yuri yet
>>151082130I mean.. for now, that’s all we know. I think there’s definitely gonna be more lore into the overlords in the HazbinxHelluva collab show they teased some months ago.
>>151079240You have autism, and not a useful kind. Sorry you had to learn about it like this
the show peaked here and season 2 will be garbage
>>151080758Works for me.
>>151082187The speaker already beat whatever trash s1 came up with
>>151082187We’re gonna get another Lucifer fight scene in S2E7.He’s just gonna get his ass beat by ShockWav.
>>151080011Literally a core concept in Christianity btw
>>151082202lol, lmfao even
>>151082091After marriage, Anon.
>>151082187Lucifer looked pretty badass in that scene
>>151082212ITS SHOCK.WAV YOU FUCKING BROCCOLI HEAD
>>151072713Has literally nobody posted a MEGA??
>>151082340torrent itlet alastor rape you in prison
>>151082243Calm down teen
>>151082315UM ACKHUALLY
>>151082340Bro, just get a free trial on Amazon in two weeks. The whole season will be out by then.
>>151082286I doubt thathttps://youtu.be/_eDBbEz6Zgg
The Vox and Alastor song is a reprise of Rosie's pet songMade him mixed just to be everyone's dog
>>151082292Full Warform is the best Charlie has ever looked
>>151072730>a black guy with a radio show in the 20'sLMAO, what is viv smoking?
>>151080982>8- Don't you forgetRosie and Alastor >10-Don't you forget(reprise)Vox and AlastorOh this will be fun.
>>151080982>Piss>Clean it up>Alastor is a ni* btfo by the white men>Yaoi paddleI might have misjudged viv, her writing sucks but she is pretty based sometimes.
>>151082887The best part about radio is that if you had proper equipment, you can pretty much do it yourself(it's illegal to do that but pirate radio is still a thing), and I'm assuming that in the 20s you really didn't need a license like you do now. Also, its radio, you don't know the race of the person you're talking too, it's a voice.
>>151082912Why are they doing this to my malewife
>>151082999You are mixing up the 20's and the 70's. Equipment was way too expensive to do pirate radio back then.
>>151082487agreed
>>151083090Mmm.. her Pilot form was still better.
>>151083227Indeed it is.
>>151083265I’m not even a Charlie fan, but she was designed and written much better. She looked and sounded like a young girl with big dreams.Erika’s voice makes Charlie sound 30, and the writing makes her act like a 10 year old. So ridiculous.
>>151083045Because people like seeing their favorites hurt and at their lowest, just so they can see them fight their way to the top.
>>151083349He fucking better get some turnabout. I don’t want him to become a nice guy. I want him to get WORSE. EVILER.
I prefer Charlie's new design personally. She looks way too unfinished in the pilot.
>>151083380That sort of unfinished look had a charm to it, though. It felt.. homemade, per se. Authentic. Something made with love.
>Hazbin Hotel has the embodiments of good and evil as charactersWhy the FUCK would you reveal this in an interview?This should be a major plot twist because it completely recontextualizes the dynamic between Heaven and Hell. Like, Lucifer didn't get kicked out of Heaven because the angels were being "meanie bad :(" or anything. It was because he accidentally fucked over all of Creation by giving the primordial concept of malice a foothold to be an active part of the world.
>>151083454Well, I mean, we knew Roo existed. And obviously Lucifer is flawed, but Vivienne gives her favorite characters “poor wittle guy” syndrome, aka terminal woobification.
>>151083454Mind you, none of this is a theory or anything. They quite explicitly say:>For with this single act of disobedience, evil finally found its way into Earth.When I first saw this, I thought it was just a metaphor for people being given free will, but no. It's referring to the sapient metaphysical concept of Evil being allowed to make itself an active part of the world.It also carries the massive implication that HH is not a setting with relativistic morality. Good and Evil are objective parts of the world. Even if Hell can have some amount of good and Heaven can have some amount of evil, they are not and never can be the same or interchangeable. Because one realm is dominated by the concept of Good and the other is dominated by the concept of Evil.For all intents and purposes, the concept of Evil is the ACTUAL Devil. It's an active part of the world and it is presumably responsible for everything bad that has ever happened. And for a show that's about Lucifer's daughter, this is kind of a big fucking deal.Why, just why, would you reveal this in an interview? This should be part of a big fucking reveal, not a footnote.
>>151083757TRVTH NVKE
>>151082887Isn't he a mulato? Maybe his white parent was powerful enough to get him one.
>>151083454>>151083632We've known this for years
>>151083380The show design and VA are better. The original VA made her sound too young and couldn't sing.
>>151081055Self-declared 'iconic' always works out that way, amirite?
>>151081323That's because YWNBAW.
>>151083899NTAYRT, but really though? Erika sounds too old for the character. And the design feels too same when compared to the other characters.
>>151082163Definitely going to happen. Don't worry shipfag.
>>151083851Maybe Viv implied it somewhere. I just didn't think the show would go down this route.I thought it was going to do something like>Why go to Heaven when you can make Hell better?Well now we know why. Because Good and Evil are actual fucking things. And presumably one resides in Hell and the other resides in Heaven. While some sinners can be redeemed and some angels can become evil, the two groups are not interchangeable. Hell CAN'T be a good place by nature: hence why the Hotel (which seeks to bring redeemed sinners from Hell to Heaven) is actually necessary.Like, I knew Roo was a thing. I just didn't think she would be on THAT level of importance where she's just straight-up the primordial of all evil.Idk maybe it's because I don't follow everything Viv says, but this is not a direction I expected.
>>151083946>Erika sounds too old for the characterAll we know is Charlie is physically in her 20s. Erika's only 33. I don't know how you think she sounds especially old. If anything Jill was probably told to mimic Erika.>And the design feels too same when compared to the other characters.I think the red eyes and the red accent on her hair is an improvement. I don't really care for the outfits in either version but the red one arguably makes her look like a hotel manager. Her pilot outfit just made her look like a regular obnoxious theater kid.
>>151084020*primordial source of all evil
>>151084020>And presumably one resides in HellShe's kind of all over the place. She MIGHT be in heaven right now.
>>151083332>sounded like a young girl with big dreams.>Erika’s voice makes Charlie sound 30Self-insert effect, just look at age of Medrano between pilot and Amazon series.
>>151084027You are either nuts or you are Viv, (in which case you are both).
>>151073187Eh - I mainly got the Ghetto vs. Suburbs Stuff from it. A lot of the dialog in the second and first episode reminded me of something, I had this weird sense of deja-vu and then I realised, that you basicly could insert half of it in any given scence of ARCANE with the names filed off. I did enjoy the Speaker of God and Sir Pentious Dialogue though - I do think one of the main problems of the show are the idiosyncracies resultig from mixing deconstructions / commentary of the social and sacred, but this one was pretty kino.
>>151079903Hey schizo look what I found>>151082225Lmao yeah. I assume most of the Christian LARPers' cope for jacking off to degenerate porn (and going against the Bible in doing so) is that they will repent and everything will be okay. Not that far off from what the show offers.
Adam was my favorite character so I'm glad he's back in schizo form.
>>151084149I felt Pentious-Speaker was weakened by his backstory and redemption being too neat and tidy. Sera-Speaker is the stronger scene, feels genuinely Christian at times.
>>151083757I hate that twitter have travestied words so much that i know this person means alastor gets pegged instead of the classic definition where the girl rides the man.
>>151084210Don't know what's wrong with the idea of redemption in this particular situation anyway. Viv's not trying to rewrite the rules or anything like that. I feel like most well-adjusted Christians would probably look at the premise of Hazbin and go "hmm, maybe" and then just not watch it.
>>151082912Official account says the Rosie version is the reprise.
>>151080982>Piss is the Cherri and Pentious duetlmao
>>151084213>Adam's back, in schizo form
>>151083946No, Erika is perfect for the character. Charlie is far from my favorite but her voice acting, especially the singing, suits her very well.
I want Doom slayer to mating press Alastor
>It's #1 on prime in 43 countriesSo which character is getting the Macy's parade balloon
>>151084341Perfect? You sound like a big fan of Erika.
>>151084453NTA Erika adds the right amount of charming dorkiness to Charlie's character IMO.
>>151084392Joke guess is Angel Dust, Real guess is Charlie
>>151084500Eh, I guess so… though, I personally would think of her youth and naivety to be the character’s focus points.
>>151078831I think you’re going to be wrong. Alastor is a serial killer. Once people get reminded of that, they’ll lose sympathy
>>151080982>Vox will sing "don't you forget, you are my pet" to AlastorRape incoming
>>151084453I had no idea who she was before this show
>>151083757Bottoms to men and women.
>>151080982>janny songHeh
>>151084687Even though they remind you in the same episode that Alastor is a remorseless serial killer who deserves to be kept on a leash, especially when given massive power, Alastor fans will still act like he's an innocent victim and Rosie is evil. Keeping Alastor of all people on a tight rope is far from evil, especially when his express desire in making his deal is to keep having "fun" by causing misery. But his fangirls won't see it that way.
>>151082887to be fair, when Viv first decided to say Alastor was half-Creole or whatever everyone pretty much decided to headcanon him as being very white passing.Instead if we go by the leaked pics he's a Carlton lookin' nigga so yeah no idea how he got a good job in the South during the 20s.
Cutie
>>151082887>>151082999You guys realize that black guys on the radio was common back then right? It was novelty to the white audience, black people were associated with jazz and thus it was common to hire them as Radio DJs for jazz stations. Hell, a lot of the biggest black starts of the 21st century got their start in radio. Uncle Remus's actor, James Baskettwas picked because he was a big radio star and Walt wanted someone whose face would be immediately identified with the character. That is the first black guy to get an Oscar (honorary and it was basically Walt pulling strings to quell controversy around the movie but still)In Louisiana, where Alastor is from and where the associations started? A Black guy on the radio wouldn't be out of place at all. Pre-Civil Rights movement, Southern whites loved black people so long as they were in a position they could watch from a distance and commodify without having to interact.
The final battle will be Lucifer and Lute in Season 2.
>>151085323No, Anon. He’s gonna fight ShockWav in Episode 7, and lose. But then ShockWav is gonna get killed off in Episode 8.
>>151085036Wrong! All black people were oppressed slaves in chains picking cotton in every country on Earth while being whipped mercilessly by White colonisers when they weren't beating their oppressed Handmaid's Tale wives, and that happened right up until Last Thursday when my generation freed them by moralising on the Internet and extolling the virtues of a brilliant new original idea called communism, but there is still more work to be done to make all the racists change their Neolithic ways and get on the right side of history.
>>151085323And we know Lucifer lives so I guess she gets her ass kicked
>>151085771iirc Lute's VA also recorded her lines for season 3, so she'll most likely live too.
Do people really like the show?
>>151081720Viv is a typical fujo. She loves gay sex but she doesn't care for lesbians at best, it's repulsed by them at worst. The problem is she want to be viewed as an ally, that's why Chaggie exist in the first place
>>151085893sunk cost fallacy, at least for meI need to see how this story goes, even if it's not very good
>>151085893I have a love-hate relationship with it. I don't know why I enjoy it because I have a decent amount of problems with it. Oh well. I guess it kind of makes me nostalgic in a way for old Tumblr shit.
>>151085868Well yeah I just said she'd get her ass kicked>>151085893It seems to be pulling big numbers on prime so I guess. I think of it as vapid fun. There are some genuinely decent parts but overall it's not good, but not enough that I find watching it torturous.
>>151082912It's the other way around
>heaven will be closed off from any other realmswhat the fuck do they mean by "other realms" because clearly purgatory doesn't exist and earth isn't exactly any threat to themareare they talking about buddha or somethingis it a god of war situation where all the myths are real
SEX WITH CHARLIE
Hey, Beter.
>>151086038>Medrano reveals that the setting does have "gods," and they're coming up later in the show.there could be other afterlives and such possibly.
here's your irredeemable rapist bro
>>151086102He doesn't look far removed from being a Ryan Murphy character so that isn't surprising
>>151085893Like is a strong word, im still getting to know the show, kinda cool but is too early to make a call, we'll see where it goes.
>>151086108Honestly, Valentino by Ryan Murphy would be nuclear levels of freaky. Shit would make Saltburn look like Sesame Street.
>>151086102>people keep insisting he's irredeemableDo they just, not know the whole premise of the show??
>>151086102>Sacrifices his life for angel and goes to heaven>Sends selfies to angel with his sister
>>151085893I don't like it... I love it! :)
>>151085893It has moments of hardcore locking in with legit prime Disney-level animations and songs, but I'm pretty certain no one watches it for the writing
I can't take any of the Vs seriously as a threat, alone or together
>>151085893I loved the pilots for both Vivzie-Hell shows. They had all the potential to be comfy adult comedies during a time when we were all forced to stay at home to avoid the latest form of man-made ick.Then the finale of Helluva S1 happened and I knew then and there these shows were going to be an unholy fusion of morning cartoons and afternoon CBS soaps, all geared towards liberal film students.
Lute is the only person left to represent Old Testament
If Lute is a angel then why she so mean to people?
>>151085771>>151085868>>151085972No. Lute will beat Lucifer and do the unexpected to him.
>>151086200They represent the vices of the modern world and the delusion it has on the poor and the rich. What they use is far more dangerous than them.
>Lucifer doesn't die this season >He has a big part in season 3 confirmed I keep winning. Many more scenes of best boy to come!
>>151086124If Pentius was a gay man before he died, then why does he like Cherri now who is a girl?
>>151086133The Vees are irredeemable because they don't want redemption.
>>151086418Stop posting your stupid fanfic
>>151086433Yeah, and then he’s turned back into whiny bitch Lucifer instead of “fuck shit up” Lucifer
>>151086274NTAYRT but the moment s1E8, something snapped inside of me that set off alarm bells in my head. I knew then and there it was bad. Oh, boy, if I knew now what I knew before starting.
>>151086418Dear god, let LuciLute be a thing, it would be so fucking funny.
>>151086407Wrath of God. In the old testament God had no problem sending angels to wipe out entire groups of people.
>>151086493I don’t wanna be mean, but how would that work?
>>151086475He's both and it's his charm
>>151086519She finds out she likes short guys
>>151077591Sum about AIDS
>>151086521I mean, I can understand the charm of both, but at certain points he just gave off Stolas vibes. Don’t crucify me, though.
>>151086505So Emily would do that in the Old Testament?
>>151086465>>151086493No. I mean Lute is going to be angry to see the whole ring thing with Lucifer because she knows exactly what it means (Lilith abandoning him). She has the opportunity to kill him right then and there with Heaven (Sera) might even calling for his death.
>>151086274What the pilots had that the shows didn't was that Vivzie was hanging out with a lot of the old Newgrounds crowd and the pilots genuinely did feel like "Newgrounds and Tumblr had a baby."Remember, both Hazbin and Helluva were intended to be far more comedic than they ended up. The result of making it more serious and wanting you to take the drama more seriously is that she can't do that kind of edgy humor. Like in the Helluva pilot when they shot a kid for being annoyingLook at the Helluva shorts, when just one of Ex-Machinima turned Oneyplays guy got into the writing room. The result was a Loona getting a heartwarming scene from a wholesome Mr.Rogers expy only to traumatize him, accidentally shoot his leg, and Blitzo gives him a gruesome death and the whole joke is how he didn't deserve it.That was pure late aughts early 10s internet humor. Why is that kind of joke otherwise largely missing in series about dysfunctional inhabitants of literally hell. Because Vivzie wants us to view her characters as "misunderstood."
>>151086553Emily strikes me as the guardian angel or those ones eagerly waiting for a human to enter the land. Yes, they exist.
>>151086544I don't ever think he'll be as sad turbo victim bottom gay as Stolas, thankfully
>>151086590Don’t bet on it. I’d keep my guard up until Season 3 drops.
>>151086566>I mean Lute is going to be angry to see the whole ring thing with Lucifer because she knows exactly what it means (Lilith abandoning him)Dude I fucking hate you
I think Lute’s role in the season is helping out the Vees, but not on purpose.Her Adam delusions will be the inspiration of them controlling Lucifer. And she’s the one that will break him out of the fantasy.It’s not that “Lucifer is misunderstood,” it’s more that “Lucifer is abused and easily manipulated to try to be with Lilith once again”.Gravity is a song that foreshadows Lucifer’s future condition.
>>151086632It’s not my show, it’s Vivzie’s. And she writes stuff like this.
how powerful would alastor be if he replaced his microphone with one made of angelic steal
>>151086692Well, he’s not beating people with the microphone, so…
why are they afraid of using actual angels like michael or gabriellike fuck even the speaker could've been metatron
>>151086692Is the lore going to ignore the fact that he's the only non angelic thing who can permakill a sinner? Instead of introducing new stuff every other episode, what about we fucking explore what we already have, viv?
>>151086763Gabriel and Michael are mainly Israel-handlers.
>>151086822>Michael, Adam has just been killed by the Sinners, and a Sinner has just ascended to Heaven! What do we do?>SEND TWENTY BILLION DOLLARS TO ISRAEL
>>151086784sinners die all the time? It's not just angelic weapons and alastor who does it
>>151086483The alarm bells were ringing for me in the very first episode with Moxxie's morality crisis, but I suppressed that in an effort to give the show a chance.I now know I was only fooling myself.
>>151086827Michael will gladly take that money to manage Israel.
>>151086763They're definitely saving Michael, like making him and Lucifer brothers is the popular thing now so him showing up for some family drama in a later season would make sense.Now where the fuck is Gabriel and Uriel and the other big names I have no idea.
>>151086892Season 3 is supposed to be about the Morningstars so if there's ever a time for him to show up it'd be then.
>>151086905“Oh boy, I’m so happy to see my wife again!”Michael, about to tell him that the shapeshifter isn’t his wife:
Make sure you order your official merchandise from China early so it has time to ship here by Christmas.
>>151078576If he was a sinner then it seems like hell is the easier place to get to and heaven being so populated is a big mystery. It's kinda reminding me of The Good Place.
>>151078715wonder if he ever bumped into Jack down there.
Chances of them bringing Archangel Michael in? Would love a Lucifer/Michael brother drama
>>151072730It sounds terrible
>You have reached the phone of Lilith Morningstar. I'm not here right now, and uh, if this is Charlie, hang up. I don't want to talk to you. I-I- The problem with you, is uh... It's words. Words lack the parameters to accurately describe how I feel about you. But maybe this will help. Every night, I have a recurring dream. It's you, sleeping in your bed. And it's me, with a pair of garden shears. And I tear that stupid ass nose right off your face, and I put it on top of my fireplace. And when your dumbass daddy comes over, trying to get it back, 43 trucks fall out of the sky, and land exactly where he's standing, killing him instantly. One day, it'll happen.
is sinner adam in any of the leaks
>>151085893I like the concept of it but sometimes it feels a bit much. In the s2e1 during Trust Us, it does so many cuts and transitions it's hard to keep up with what's happening on screen. In e2, there's so many small details when Emily it showing Pentious around that I had to watch it multiple times to see what's actually happening. It's just few examples but it basically happens the entire show. I have too many complaints to bother to write them and not enough compliments. I keep watching because I hope it'll be better next episode.
>>151072713The gay couple they start up this season will be so unsatisfying that it will make Charlie and Vaggie seem impressive by comparison. This might have been the plan from the start or they might just be that bad at writing kinky.
>>151085893Yes. I like animation, musicals, and melodrama, so it's a perfect storm for me. All of the characters being fucked up losers who sing fun songs is what does it for me. If it weren't for the musical element I probably wouldn't bother.Also I want to fuck Lute while she says mean things.
>>151086844Yeah, but they regenerate. With angelic weapons they don't, which is the whole point of the exterminations and carmilla's market
>>151087194No there's apparently no stingers or bigger twists relating to the overarching plot
>>151087194>>151087286I think the twist would be that Adam returns at the end of the season as a still holy entity or/and Lilith/Eve gets angrier over Lute (her replacement).
>Hazbin Hotel staff says there are other godsI don’t think they mean that these other gods and their worlds are good. As Roo would reasonably be considered as one of them.
I watched this cartoon and whoever created it seems like a bit of a weirdo to me. Does anyone know much about them or whether they have some kind of mental issues? I studied a bit of psychology and I'm seeing some things that seem a little off.
>Lilith and Eve were built to be mothers of mankind with Adam>They abandoned it by their desires>Lute was built for Exterminations and was the closest to Adam>She is now placed in the role of having to care for the sinners (Adam’s children) without truly knowing what the true Adam really thinksI think I see what’s going on.
holy shit I didn't even think they'd bother dubbing the SONGS in other languagesJapanese Adam is fucking crazy lmaohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rvz06ihvMY
>>151087690ARASHI GAWATASHI GA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouzpJk1_dOk
>>151087690Why? They did it last time.
>>151087749I didn't know. For some reason I never saw/heard any other language versions and just kind of assumed that they wouldn't/couldn't dub the actual songs themselvessure the non-singing parts could be dubbed, but for a song it's a lot trickier. making it rhyme and work with the mouth movements and everything right?I just assumed that even in foreign dubs the musical parts were left in english and subtitled
>>151080523>The plot demanded it to happen so it happened.
>>151087762So you weren’t here last time? People talked about the Vox versions in Italy because of their lyric changes.
>>151087770Nope, I only became a fan like 2 months ago I had overlooked the show entirely because I didn't care for the pilot all those years agoI didn't even like the show itself at first honestly but it grew on me somehow and now I love it
It's been fucked since episode 1 when iy implied that Adam being a little condescending to a woman was worse than the sinners raping/murdering/anything
>>151087781>>151087762Well then, welcome to our space.I am that what remains of the originals. At least the ones that did their identity thing.Hopefully, no weird happenings occur this time.Be warned that once the show is over, it’s trash time. So porn spam, rage baiters up the sheets, etc. So, appreciate the time you spend on this better environment, please.
>>151087770the whole reason I even posted about Japanese adam is because I saw some article about how they chose to alter the lyrics a bit for Gravityapparently the actual word for gravity doesn't work with the mouth movements and timing so they made it the lines I posted earlier>Arashi-ga>Watashi-gawhich apparently means something close to>The storm is...>I am...with the linguistically silent implication being "the storm is/I am coming" but the way it works in jap is they just imply that part I thought that was intersting so I looked up Japanese versions of Hazbin Hotel songs and here we are BTW here's the Jap version of LOSER BABY and it's FUCKING INCREDIBLEIT'S AMAZINGhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EN2dzKgkss
>>151087797won't have any problems from me man I don't engage in drama I just genuinely like the show
>>151087807oh the article also said that Adam using "watashi" to say "I am" is leaning into him not being real, since the real adam in season 1 ALWAYS used the more masculine "Ore" to refer to himself
>>151087811I don’t like the show, but I focus mainly on treating it as a mystery to be solved. It’s my strange kind of eating entertainment. It’s how I even devour scriptures.
>>151087832All I know is when I first marathoned it I spent the next day having "Hell is Forever" on repeat for literally 18 hours straight Not an exaggeration, couldn't get it out of my head
>>151087847Maybe Jesus is warning you.
>>151072713>Charlie's face after I tell her about my diaper fetish> >>151072721>Charlie's face after she gives it a try and realizes she loves being mommy
>>151087851I don't mean it like that, the song is just a bangerFor a while I couldn't even listen to the other ones, I'm just saying I got hooked on the music reallyI mean, the NEXT one that really got stuck in my head was Charlie in court specifically because of the harmonized part with Emily >IF HELL IS FOREVER THEN HEAVEN MUST BE A LIEwhich, I have been told, is extremely blasphemousI enjoyed both
>>151087859My response supposed to be a joke and a potential double-meaning.
>>151087874I know I just enjoy taking everything autistically seriously
>>151086124Do you think his hair smells good? Asking for a friend. No homo.
>>151087949In the era he's from everything literally smells like shit.
>>151087959Wow rude.
>>151087963Zoom-assuming running hot water, soap, daily baths/showers, flush toilets, and general hygiene standards weren't a very recent thing historically speaking.Also cars a barely more than a century old, and the average person having one much less so, meaning everything literally smelled like horseshit.
>>151087980Wasn't it Victorian England, and he was in kind of a wealthy part of it?Couldn't be that badAlso few know this but prior to 1996 everywhere you went just smelled like stale cigarette smoke
>>151079227Who said you had to make Ozzie a rapist his depiction in his debut episode already works for an antagonist, a guy who laughs at the concept of romantic love and embraces the self destructive nature of lust
>>151087987I miss that smell.
>>151087992Me tooas a kid I didn't even know what it was, I just knew that hotels and my grandma's house smelled like that and I liked it
>>1510789593rd option the ones that are both
>>151087987I'm old enough to remember the old skool 'Space Invaders' video arcades that smelled like cigarettes, fresh handmade circuit boards, and still outgassing old skool plastics, (plastics used to be less well formulated, manufactured and stable, thus had a characteristic smell to them kids - they're another relatively recent - and unfairly maligned - invention).>>151087992>>151087995I kinda miss it too to be honest in a nostalgic kind of way. Felt strange the first time I noticed a new computer didn't smell like the old ones. I still have a lot of good feels associated with that though.
>>151088011They do say smell is the most potent and easily binding memory-trigger, afterall
>>151080600>>151080666This is not talking about how he already got over his cowardice during his time as a kingpin/wannabe overlord
>>151087690Wait til you hear Japanese Alastor, kekhttps://youtu.be/YLvA_q879-E
>>151088046LMAO.>inb4 super-kawaii Emily
from "stayed gone">That fucker's back!>I know, I thought he was gone for good too...>It's been 7 years!>Awww...are you still made he almost beat you that time?wait a minutealmost?Alastor ALMOST beat Vox? Meaning he didn't actually beat him. Meaning Alastor lost, or failed to win, whatever.Vox is that good?I know they're treating him like the new Top Guy but what about literally all of the other overlords? No Overlords even died or were depowered in the finale of Season 1, except Alastor, and he wasn't the Top Guy at all.So why is Vox just suddenly #1?
>>151088046Yikes
>>151088054https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbvFK3Nx0JcActually sounds more restrained.>>151088073Vox has the most influence due to the media, same how Alastor would have had before via radio broadcasts.
>>151088046To be fair there really is no way to transfer the intent and context of his trans-atlantic broadcaster voice I don't think there's a proper japanese equivalent that would get it across
>>151088077>Vox has the most influence due to the mediaI know, but Zestial had people straight up commiting suicide just from seeing him in person Zestial didn't dieCarmilla isn't dead
Why wouldn't they have enriched uranium in Heaven?https://youtu.be/rrzImXXasQU?t=43What the literal Hell is wrong with uranium-235? Is that because Viv thinks somehow 'uranium am bad'? Didn't God Himself invent uranium?Christ, are we going to see those three-bladed windmills in Heaven next because she think 'they am good'?
>>151088089Look how those two act in general though, a lot more restrained and passive, they´re effectively sitting back and letting the Vees run rampant expecting them to fuck up eventually.
>>151088077>timestamp 1m22sthat's so goodjapanese em is perfect there that's the best part of the song too (right after Adam and Lute's refrain)
>>151087807Damn huskers JP voice is great
>>151088073I honestly think this is just Sam Haft’s weird songwriting where it’s just kind of a throwaway line and now they have to come up with a story behind it
>>151088109I know right?most of the Japanese versions aren't as good, though I enjoy the noveltybut Loser Baby? Holy SHIT. I love Keith David, and I love that song in English, but in Japanese it's FANTASTIC
>>151088077I'm glad we could send some culturally perplexing weirdness back at the Japs for a change. At least Viv's personal neuroses and religious ignorance is good for keeping the Nips confused.
>>151088096That is trueI guess times are changing quickly and they did allude to Zestial being kind of a slow-to-act fossil even if he may be technically more powerful or more respected I like that Vox is getting attention this season, he's the fucking best>Scratch that they changed the channel>And we can't sell the scandal>Hope you had fun but we are done with you>your run is cancelled
>>151087807>Japanese Lute is the Storm that is approaching.
>>151088137kekyeah quite literally that's what it means that's funny
>>151088046>GAGAGAGAGA-GA, HA HA HA!
>>151088135Bet he inserts lame stick into his anus like a homo. LOL
>>151088095why would they need it?uranium is useless if you're in heaven it's extremely hazardous and you don't need it for anything
>>151088153Fun?
>>151088165We don't do that in Germany.
>>151088165well yeah part of the whole thing they're going for is that Heaven is less of a paradise and more of a padded cell with training wheels for pussies
>>151073576>>151073581I feel like Adam would get pissy that Lute is pulling that shit and complain that she needs to quit blueballing him.
>>151085893>no 1 show on Netflix for two years in a rowyes lmfao. even the people on this site who are embarrassed to like a faggy girl show watch it.
Do you reckon if you dangled a twinkie from a stick over a keyboard you'd be able to get Viv to write a good show?
>>151081252This chick and Lute are making me want to watch this show but I've been had before with shitty media.
I hope Adam isn't for real inside Lute's head and it's just her going insane. But knowing how she writes shows, he probably is.
>>151088277Crossovers with things Reddit loves is cringe.
>>151088278#MeTooI want her to just be totally losing her shit and Adam is just a very dead manifestation of that.
>>151086133If Viz did include a rapist getting redemption her fanbase would lynch her.Simple as.
>>151088252Do you reckon if you dangled a twinkie from a stick you'd be able to get Viv to stop eating twinkies?
>>151088229its not even on netflix
Does anyone have the mega?
>>151088277Based post more Lute abuse
>>151088278>>151088286How is that even still in contention?They went out of their way to have him tell her >I only know what you know because I'm in your head you crazy bitch
>>151088805>How is that even still in contention?Is this your first metaphorical roll in the hay with Viv?
>>151088817I saw season 1?
Adam be living like Momoshiki inside of Boruto's head.
>>151088831There's nothing so stupid that you can imagine, that's too stupid for Viv to actually do.That's why when you see the first episodes you think you have some idea where shit is going, because your normal brain has some concept of how storytelling works and can fill in a lot of the blanks and semi-predict the most entertaining outcomes based on the premise, (always hoping to be pleasantly surprised by original storytelling innovations and twists).That's not how Viv's brain works and you predictably wind up with not-so-predictable gay owls and other stupid shit in actual fact.>I saw season 1?It also doesn't matter how much you've seen because the longer the series progresses the more the probability of Viv doing something monumentally retarded to fuck up her own shit approaches one.Once you're used to it watching her shit is like gambling hoping you win often enough to at least keep your head above water, but knowing the odds are against you and you'll eventually have a bad streak that will totally wipe you out. It's hard not to feel that even when you're winning.
>>151088913I dunno season 1 had a pretty coherent arc they just didn't develop Adam enough and there was too much fillerI think they even admitted thatnot sure if I'm on the same rollercoaster here
>>151084504>Look son, it's the off spring of Lucifer!
Why don't Lute tries to fuck Adam's son to get the gay out of him?
>>151088805Oh yeah. He also says>If you don't know I have no fucking ideaWhen she asked him if he knew about her love for him.
>>151088992yeah but now that other anon has me paranoid, like I don't know how bad things can getlike somehow he can be a hallucination and then become a real boy again, through magic bullshit
I just realized that I was watching this shit for Adam and Lute.
>>151089040they stole the show in the first episode, still hasn't been toppedit's to be expected
I want to comission a lewd artwork of lute. Anyone got any fun ideas for a scenario, or even a non lewd scenario if it's good?
>>151073986He realized hell isn't actually hell in his reality, and it's more akin to a degenerate daycare than anything else. While heaven is just kinda annoying.
>>151089123frankly I think she'd just look stunning posing in an elegant and slim-fitting black dress with heelslike as if she were going to a professional or business dinnerthen you can have her get fucked in it
>>151073986>Man I'm so sad I get to live in eternal paradise and not meet my crackhead retard friends>"I didn't really get Pentius' arc for that episode"you serious?isn't it obvious? You're just wrong about how he feels. >live in eternal paradiseto him, it isn't. It's kind of gay. he doesn't like it. they don't have any of the things he likes. That's the entire point of the song saying "no one here is like you">my crackhead retard friendsyes they're a bunch of losers but they're still his friends'WHY DIDN'T MY EGGS BOIS GET TO HEAVEN TOO??'how can you NOT understand his arc there?
>>151089253I like the concept, but seems kind of random? However, your idea makes me think of what jobs lute would do in an alternate universe? I could make a scenario from the setting
>>151089334It seems random but it comes from the question you immediately asked. I think in the real world or an alternate universe, Lute would be like a very strict Secretary or Assistant to somebody like Adam who would be a power-broker or politician or something like that. Maybe a famous rock star. just how I see them in my head
>>151089377I'm hoping for a scenario that also fits her character. Like, I'd imagine she'd definitely be a toxic gamer who trash talks on the mic given her violent personality.
>>151089123commission her sniffing a peepee
>>151089391that would be what she does to unwind after being an uptight and respectable secretary all dayas soon as she gets home she kicks off her heels and goes goblin mode calling people slurs in lobbies
>>151089429I like this idea. Maybe a split image. And she can be in her underwear while gaming to make it a little lewd.
>>151073742>Cause heaven is forever whether you like it or not!!Isn't hell too, since you need to be murdered or exterminated to die there?
>>151089271He didn't like those things in his human life. He reinvented himself once, he can do it again>"WHY DIDN'T MY EGG BOIS GET TO HEAVEN TOO??"Write them a letter, sheesh. Give it to Charlie when she pops up or the next opportunity to send something to hell happens.I get that some places aren't for everyone, but if you do it clumsily, you just write someone suffering Stockholm Syndrome instead
>>151089469yeah it's just classic gap moe
>>151089513>love a group of people so much that you sacrifice your life and die for them>wake up in heaven>"hi! we have puppies and rainbows and shit you don't care about! we're your new best friends!">"the people you loved enough to die for in order to get here in the first place? No, you can never see them again. But don't worry - look - the sidewalks are all painted really colorful, and everybody gets free snowcones on tuesday!yeah fuck that man send me back to hell immediately
>>151089513alsoEverything he loved about Cherri Bomb would never be allowed in Heaven he does not belong there
Ok...though like, does anyone have a MEGA or a place to watch it for free?
>>151089580seriously? just use Yandex
>>151089529>Send me back to the literal hellhole where I was in danger and miserable every day aside from brief moments of relief Him missing his friends his fine. Him being convinced he can never belong anywhere except with them is a stretch>>151089549Again, he reinvented himself once, he can do it again
>>151089714>Again, he reinvented himself once, he can do it againI think you may just have some kind of stunted inability to empathize with people people aren't just computers you can turn on and off
>>151079227>Foils can't exist>Especially as the Sins were either Fallen Angels or pagan goss mirroring the Judeo-Christian Divinity after demonization>Implying there can only one rapist in Hell>When we already have Mammon being the corpo corruptor & slight sex pest like Valentino & VoxWew, Vivziepooppers are retarded. If Vivziepop wasn't another ad-naseum "Sympathy for the Devil" retard we could of had evil Sins since even the Goetia are rife with corruption & intrigue. Shit even Ozzie's woobie faggotry for Fizz has him hint at being a controlling yandere as he says he wants Fizz to stay in the penthouse buh nah it's just cutesy tumblr yaoi shit. What's the point of Hell if you're just going to make everyone into safe-edgy whiny woobie faggaloos including the head honchos?
>>151089714>Him missing his friends his fine.Yeah, that's all that's happening. It hasn't been that long, he's homesick and misses them. Normal.>Him being convinced he can never belong anywhere except with them is a stretchThat's not the case though. Pentius is trying, we see that. He says about the new golden eggs "I'll tolerate them" and he's clearly warming up to Emily. He really wants to see his friends again, but he is also trying to make the best of his new situation Heaven. So I don't know what you're complaining about actually
>>151083632I thought the objectivity was evident due to how final everyone treats their situation despite how supremely lax it actually is in universe.Like, everyone really treats their situation as if NOTHING could change yet they have the power to become overlords who even outside of Carmilla getting her hands on angelic weaponry over time, are STILL forces to be reckoned with in universe.If anything, they need to play around with this pretty apparent flaw in everyone's logic. As it does appear with good and evil being objective active participants in the universe instead of just what guides people, it obviously can be warped and altered.
I cannot overstate how badly I wish I could have Alastor’s half-demon babies. Sure he’s probably sterile and he’d be a terrible dad but I can dream
while I am a huge weeb, Hazbin's songs are timed with the english voices in mind and while jp va are as usually amazing, they are not always matching the singing parts properly especially on the right tone compared to the music
>>151089123Lute facesitting on anon, I haven't seen any art of it yet
>>151090224yeah it's a bit rough but I appreciate the effort
wait, am i slow and/or retarded?, if alastor is black and a deer, did adam buck break him?
>>151090323yes
>>151090323Alastor is black?
>>151090746He's a quadroon
>>151088278The plotline is most likely going to relate to how Vox will control Lucifer in season 2 and why Eve took Lilith’s identity.
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