just finished reading this run for the first time>starts as a story about some D list hero trying to make it to the big leagues>ends with some meta commentary about edgy 80’s comics and Morrison asking me to join PETAwtf how did this get past DC?
>>151075006The New 52 Animal Man and Swamp Thing (stories tied together) is actually awesome, you should check that out.
>>151075006>>ends with some meta commentary about edgy 80’s comics and Morrison asking me to join PETAMan, the 80s really were great.
>>151075006The meta stuff is cool but peta and bashing animal testing has aged like milk>>151075139I love both those runs. I think Rotwolrd was ultimately not satisfying outside the impact it had Buddy's life
>>151075006Yeah, it's great when a series can evolve over its course like that. But the seeds were there since issue 5.
>>151075186Don't be close minded, now you have all the information at your finger tips but back then you had limited information, you know peta sucks now but people didn't back.
I love when's he becoming self aware and questions why that incident with Ellen shooting a guy or something was never brought up again. Makes me kek on every reread
>>151075272>you know peta sucks now but people didn't back.That's fair but I still think you have to be a dummy to hate the concept of animal testing
>>151075319Meh. I don't care that much about it but people are free to be more emphatic than I am.
>>151075385Well there's level to it. You can be empathetic and ensure it's humane but some people don't want it done at all which is nonsense
>>151075319It's all well and good till a truck of HEPETITUS- RIDDLED COVID HERPES MONKEYS gets loose and kicks off the apocalypse.
>>151075411Yeah, I don't know, I just don't care that much about how people live their life. They can be vegan if they want, just don't force me to be one, you know? People have worse ideas that end up hurting the world.
>>151075006Market Direct
>>151075576Not really discussing whether they are allowed to or not. Just pointing out that being against it in totality makes no sense
>>151075319The issue with animal testing is that it was done for dumb useless shit like make-up.
>>151075006I wish the art was better.
>>151076201I mean yeah that's "useless" in the grand scheme, but gotta make sure that shit is safe to put on someone's face
>>151075139Snyder Swamp Thing is derivative trash, I do not understand why people recommend it at all. Snyder is the fucking member berries of comics writers.
>>151077907Nah that's Ewing.
>>151078080Ewing, Snyder, Camp, Johns...
>>151078224Waid
>>151075006I want to have sex with his daughter
>>151077907Its the only Swamp Thing run I've ever read, so I didnt get any of the memberries. I just enjoyed it.
>>151078317Waid too.
>>151077907It's just schlocky horror. You could argue Swampy is above that though
>>151078393Not really. Post Moore Swampy is not above that.
>>151075614what do you mean
>>151076239The art is fine.
>>151080146Not for me.
>>151078322she's alive again? his son still dead? did he ever have the 3rd kid that had a pure connection?
>>151082127he had other kids?
>>151082355Starfire gave his son an eyeful once
>>151082355in the vertigo imprint he has another wife and they have a daughter that shares the soul of a goddess N52 Animal Man used a lot of what it set upso I was curious
>>151075006a must read for all DC fans
>>151082527Is the post Morrison stuff worth a read? I'm a big fan of the new 52 run
>>151075006Despite my reservations with PETA, the very attempt by this and Swamp Thing to get people to consider concern for animals and environmentalism feels like essential Superheroism above all, especially with how much more integral and meaningful it feels compared to cases like Captain Planet.Whatever umbrage Morrison accrues from other things this is one of the favorable marks for me because it was an actual attempt, not the tepid sign holding slacktavist shit you see now, no, all in commentary. An author avatar shows up to admit it was mostly from a counter culture inclination than staunch activism, but the point is Animal Man still puts ink to paper and prints a name to the message that most side step being too opinionated on to preserve their career or standing.In short? Based.
>>151081119screw you
>wtf how did this get past DC?Edited by Karen Berger, who loved weird books.
>>151082773The very very very last arc no but I enjoyed when he became a monster eco terrorist a lot. Then again I actually think Morrison's Animal Man is kinda crap and like what came after more until near the very end.
>>151085829>Morrison's Animal Man is kinda craI actually respect this opion even though I personally like it. I'm also curious because I thought the lore about Buddy's connection to the red is really interesting and I've heard it's introduced after Morrison
>>151080125Market Direct products weren't subject to newstand/supermarket requirements of CCA and were Marketed Directly to comic shops and individual buyers
>>151083243>Despite my reservations with PETA,Eh, it was the 80s. It sounded like it was the right thing to do.
>>151075006Morrison was on some shit
>>151087142He was high on Alan Moore and Bryan Talbot's farts.
>>151078343Yeah, I'm sure you enjoyed it without context, he's just ripping off better writers. Anything "good" that has Snyder's name on it is only good because he is a ripping it off from something better.
>>151082773Only the Milligan arc that comes right after. Hell no for the other 3 runs.
>>151087142to me it seemed like he was really bitter about post crisis DC
>>151075006morrison is a nortubel tier writer
>>151086492Ah, okay.
>>151078393The British Invasion guys were above that. No newer writers of that caliber are still working in corporate comics and they're zombie companies that are never going to have the market force them to promote that level of creativity ever again. Who even wants it? Disney and AT&T aren't losing much either way, floppy readers follow characters to the extent they're still buying ASM, collected editions boomers want absolute super-deluxes of whatever they grew up with. A lot more of the younger capeshit fanbase that does exist are tumblry shippers than /co/ wants to admit too. Everyone says capeshit is stale and focused on the same small handful of characters which is true but throw out continuity and people screech, give Adam Strange a monthly and nobody buys it.Everyone whose real interest is creativity and comics as a form is already reading underground/alt stuff or working through the backlog of stuff the Big 2 have that's actually worth reading. Which is what everyone should be doing probably.
>>151089004>The British Invasion guys were above thatEh those guys could be pretty schlocky issue to issue even if their overall output doesn't reflect that >Everyone whose real interest is creativity and comics as a form is already reading underground/alt stuffSuch as? I'm genuinely curious because I don't care for modern comics and I find most indie to be interchangeable with mainstream comics. Like them being original ips is all they have going for then sometimes >Big 2 have that's actually worth readingBasically all the capeshit I read is pre 2000s. Reading Dixon's Punisher Warzone currently and it's great
>>151089056>those guys could be pretty schlocky issue to issue Maybe it's rose tinted glasses but I don't think it's comparable. They could be shlocky or turn in hackwork for a paycheck but overall they were consistently bringing new ideas to the table. Name me a writer under 40 at DC now who you can say that for. The "ideas" now are just smashing together action figures that haven't been smashed together before.>Such as?Start with Daniel Clowes if you haven't read anything from that world but Fantagraphics and Drawn & Quarterly are the main two publishers to get into.
>>151089004>Everyone whose real interest is creativity and comics as a form is already reading underground/alt stuffThose aren't very good either.
>>151089056>Such as?If you enjoy formalist playfulness, there are guys like Olivier Schrauwen.For less gimmicky stuff, there's Paco Roca.
>>151089092>>151089998Thanks for the recs, anons I'll check them out
