Marvel and DC should make direct adaptations of their comics like manga does for anime. There are like zero downsides but they wont do it for some reason. I don't understand
>>151089341>but they wont do it for some reasonbecause their shit isn't good enough for direct adaptations, loose adaptations allow the cartoons to cut out all the stupid
>>151089355something like absolute batman would make for a good direct adaptation as its pretty self contained . and its popular right now. making a direct animation would sell more copies and bring more awareness to those who dont even read comics. then you make merch and maybe a video game even.
>>151089341Aren’t anime studios run like sweatshops kek. There’s probably a spaghetti bowl of copyright laws preventing them too
>>151089341Not enough material for a proper run.
>>>/A/
There's plenty of long runs you could mine for with just some minor alterations, the problem is most of them would be 70's-90's material and casual audiences don't really like older comics. Since the 2000's there's been so many crossovers and endless events that it becomes harder to work. But those first 15 years or so of Post crisis are full of solid runs that feel cohesive and adaptable, for example.
>>151089341>There are like zero downsides but they wont do it for some reason.Most of there comics has been rebooted, recycled and reimangined by far too many writers. Not too mention all the writers in animation that tend to add there own spin on these shows. Take Black Panther for example. Which run do you use? Kirby? McGregor? Preist? Coates? How much of it can you use due to [current year] politics?
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>>151089341Spider-Man: The Animated Series is the closest thing and it crushed like three decades of comics in 65 episodes, keeping only what was useful to the series.There is also the fact that most long runs or are the first and it's not what people know of the character, or take callbacks to decades of comics they don't bother to explain much.If you wanted to do a Geoff Jhons Green Lantern series because the darkest night is just that cool you would need entire seasons to build Siniestro, Carol and the Star Sapphires, the red lanterns and Black Hand without them hogging everything in ways that Jhons didn't bothered because you had all the old comics for that. And obviously all the other heroes from their series that would need to die and resurrect mid series wouldn't be in.
>>151089341>I'm an idiot who's never read a comic book printed before 2010
>>151090158damn. read something from the 80s bro why stick with the worst era ?
>>151089764Add to that, almost all manga have a beginning, middle, and end. Comics from DC and Marvel just keep going and other writers keep adding lore and characters.
>>151090421>, almost all manga have a beginning, middle, and end.not really. A great deal of manga just get cancelled. a great deal are very episodic and not really structured with a beginning middle and end. These just aren't typically what get popular internationally.
>>151089341I am still suprised they haven't tried it. Invincible is doing it and normalfags are eating it up.
>>151090421>>151089764Tbh that's exactly why it would be pretty easy. Just take good issues and adapt them in standalone episodes. Like batman the brave and the bold.
>>151090457They couldn't give watchmen, which is basically the best capeshit gets, a proper animated adaptation so I doubt that it will become a trend.
>>151089341Well, one reason is they tend to use a lot of characters that aren't that well-known or in odd points in their histories. Try doing, say, Infinity Gauntlet, and you're going to have to spend a lot of time explaining what's going on with Hulk and Thor, who Pip and Eros are, et cetera.
>>151089341>>151089355>>151089363>>151089645Don't know what the fuck y'all are talking about but DC does adaptations of their source comics all the time in their animated movies.https://youtu.be/pc6zFrJU8SU?si=7WbwmWWVYZu1h1xeWhile not a one to one adaptation of Superman/Shazam - First Thunder, it's fairly close.>>151089764>tend to add there own spinYes, like almost all Western adaptations, writers tend to add their own stuff but that's true for Invincible in that adaption, Spider-Man whether we're talking the cartoon all you 90s still jerk-off to at night, or Ultimate Spidey.
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>>151091004Sure but those adaptations generally work under assumption that viewer knows what these characters are.
>>151089341>but they wont do it for some reason. I don't understandMarvel and DC are both owned by very major, mulit-media conglomerates.This means that these comic companies are seen as only an IP farm by the corporate big wigs on the top of the pyramid.So they have no interest in licensing off these brands and stories to animation teams. Because they wouldn't have full control.So even though it would massively help the brand and hopefully even allow new ideas and stories to prosper, the corpos have no interest.Because, to them, DC and Marvel are just small elements to their larger entertainment empires
>>151091004Anon the keyword was DIRECT.Anime usually follows the manga, in some cases even panel by panel. In some other cases (usually when a manga is based on a novel) more loosely and takes from both novel and manga. However, DC movies, pick whichever Batman one you like that is based on a comic. Hush? Doesn't follow the comic at all. Injustice? Doesn't follow the comic at all. Death and resurrection of Superman? Doesn't follow the comic at all. The long Halloween? Same issue.And in most cases it's less than they do a different thing, and more that what they do is fundamentally insulting to the original material. Like in Hush, the villain was Timothy Elliot, yes, Hush was Timothy Elliot. But the mastermind, the villain villain, was Riddler pulling the strings. So what do they do for the movie? Timothy Elliot is nobody and dies, Hush is Riddler afer taking steroids and he melees Batman. How the fuck is that a comic adaptation? It genuinely feels like a lazy AI prompt and the AI doesn't read the comic (can't lmao) but instead reads the first wrong summary it finds on Google. "Oh riddler is the bad guy, and the movie is about fighting hush. Then riddler is hush, I got it. And they fight? Riddler is scrawny so he must use steroids or something. Okay let's write this then."
>thing>thing : japan
>>151093091This but unironically
>>151089341True
>>151093091Dude, we're not talking about anime adaptationsWe're talking about animated adaptations periodBut the solution isn't Marvel/DC direct adaptations even if Absolute Batman would work wellWe need more Invincibles and preferably more animated adaptations that are largely faithful and AREN'T capeshit or licenseshit
>>151089341and do it animated
>>151089341you mean panel for panel adaptations?all of those fucking suck
of course they should. they wont though
>>151090497how to spot someone who doesn't read comics
>>151094875I liked The Maxx
go back to /a/
>>151094119They will just turn it into live action slop to make money like Scott Pilgrim or Judge Dredd
>>151098435No
>>151096084I've read plenty of comics. Name 1 capeshit comic that's better than watchmen.
>>151089632>Aren’t anime studios run like sweatshops kek. Yes. They're also outsourcing to China and Korea for cheaper workers. There's likely gonna be an industry crash in the next decade
>>151091004And they also do shit like change who Hush is or whatever the fuck the COIE adaptation was.
>>151101910>>151089632Tbh the west outsources all of it's shit as well
>>151101910Japan has been outsourcing it's anime the 70s. America has been outsourcing its cartoons since the 50s. It doesn't really matter. What matters is that the west hasn't been able to complete with the best of what anime has produced in the last 40 or so years
>>151096723shame they didn't finish it
>>151094875Direct adaptation=/= panel to panel adaptation.
>>151089341Both should be closed down already.
>>151101944Changing who Hush is made the adaptation infinitely better
>>151102352Kys tranime cuck.
>>151102450>seething about CHADnime out of nowhereHe could just be a normal /co/ poster that doesn’t like modern capeshit.
>SHITnime
>KINOmeBased
>>151096084Nta but he is right, Watchmen is way above 99% of capeslop comics and the same is true for most of Moore’s comics.
>>151103034watchmen is beginner entry level slop for people who don't want to read comic books to say "I read the only good comic book so THERE"This would be like if you watched one movie then decided you were an expert on movies. You aren't, you're just fucking retarded.
>>151103042>calling watchmen slopYou are a huge moron + watchmen is even more interesting to read after you’ve already experienced a bunch of capeshit comics.
>>151103042>why would people rather read Watchmen instead of repetitive capeslop that worships blacks number 102001010110 or indie comic about how hard the life of a tranny is
>>151103150>>151103176>Its le good because comics...le bad!thanks for proving my point faggot
>>151103526It’s good because it has well developed characters and fantastic art filled with symbolism(even if it’s not subtle most of the time). Capeshit being mostly shit has nothing to do with it
>>151089341>Monkey paw gives you a recent story, like they insist on doing>>151089764That's the worse example because obviously you go with Jungle Action.I mean, they did adapt Who Is The Black Panther pretty closely and I liked enough, but obviously you go with the more imaginative original.
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>>151089341NO, just sell floppies for one american Euro, then put ads in them, them sell them in Aldi, lidel, target, bestbuy and wallmart.That's it I saved it your precious comicbook industry. Total comicbookstore death.
copying anime isnt the solution
>>151104965>them sell them in Aldi, lidel, target, bestbuy and wallmart.time and time again it has been proven that no one is gonna buy comics just because you put them in walmart. theyve done it and it didnt work
>>151105367That guy you responded to doesn't understand how that market works, he must be stuck in the 2000's or something
the direct market needs to die. sorry
>>151090457>Invincible is doing itMy guy, that show changed a lot. What are you talking about?
>cape GODmics
>>151106019A healthy industry should be able to support both a direct market and other markets.
>>151106498>A healthy industryexactly. comics arent
>>151089355false>>151089341OP you're absolutely right but the problem is that idiots literally can't envision change. there are also idiots who would rather watch the comic industry fall. most of the people that disagree are literally just making up excuses. they'll point out that "older audiences are the only ones who care" which is FACT NUMBER ONE that marketing to zoomers isn't going to fucking work. zoomers dont' fucking read, let alone read comics. who are the people with money? gen x and millennials. this is a no brainer but people continue to act confused about how to make money from the only demographic that fucking mattersthere are plenty of examples of good stories that could be made in to animated specials. there is also the fact that disney probably doesn't have the balls to make an animated Age of Apocalypse series for mature audiences
>>151106347Go back to your death battle thread you fucking spic.
>western CHADmics
>western CHAD-ACK!
>LORDmics
>>151102447 But for the purpose of this experiment, also renders the idea useless since it’s now different from the source comic.
>>151106887That's my trans wife.
>>151106326Here's the thing with InvincibleAll the important stuff is still keptIt's not like The Boys or The Walking Dead because we can confidently expect key moments from the comic to still happen
>>151089355>direct adaption of comic|:^(>direct adaption of comic (japan)B^)
>>151106956gay
>BASEDmics
>>151089341>Marvel and DC should make direct adaptations of their comics like manga does for anime. There are like zero downsides but they wont do it for some reason. I don't understandOnce Netflix buys WB it will be all over for DC it's highly doubtful Netflix will produce new DC content
>>151108184Owari da......
>>151107926Uhm, that's bigoted! She is cute and valid!
>>151108184based netflix
>>151089341>Marvel and DC should make direct adaptations of their comics like manga does for anime.lol,lmao.
>>151108184Did netflix recover enough to even dream of that?
i fucing wish
>>151090497wdym the motion comics are great
>>151089341"Direct adaptations" as in Animated?
>>151089341The reasons are 1) there is a very long tradition in western media not to retell exactly the same story when you do an adaptation, because the audience has already experienced that and it's usually pretty dull with zero stakes, and 2) most comic stories have at least a few elements that are retarded off the page and away from the extremely forgiving audience.Also, anime makes changes to source material all the time. It's often less overt because anime series are literally paid for by the book publisher, not the adapting studio, and designed as commercials for the manga (which western adaptations are not), but it's still very common.
>>151113569>because the audience has already experienced thatHave they? Mot people don't read capeshit comics nowadays. There is plenty of unknown stories that are still rather niche. >Also, anime makes changes to source material all the time.I don't direct adaptation means making literally 0 changes , of course you need some changes to adapt from a medium to another one. >, and designed as commercials for the mangaIdk if you meant that in a negative way but basically all animation is just a commercial for something. Toys, merch etc.
>>151111649But I want a REAL animated series!
Hulk and Thor animated would be KINO shonen runs.
>>151111649For a cashgrab project, it wasn't bad. They should have hired one female voice actress to read the parts for women and children, at least.
>>151089355This
>>151103042You're a slop consuming capeshitter. Sit down, you're an embarrassment, go read your hulk comics in silence.
>>151089355Yeah loose adaptations are just better, cuts a lot of baggage that the comics have JL, TT, EMH etc were all doing that which is way more interesting
>>151114465Too boring.
>>151117893
>>151089341Big 2 should die
>>151120232you first big bitch
>>151120232Agreed.
>>151089355kek based and true .
