Lute didn't deserve what happened to her, bros.
>>151095137what happened
There better be a cool songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp_Yt1vs77w
So, which one is it?
>>151095361You left out this>Ok people seem to be taking this too seriously. For the record, I’m beyond aware how people misbehave about shipping which is WHY I haven’t said anything but I will also say a lot of the harassment I have seen is at the hands of certain shippers. And it’s deeply disappointing.Probably Charlastor because she's liked/retweeted pretty much every other big ship out there except them.
Fun little game: Fix Vox's face!
Cute
>>151095469
>Lute>her beliefs are absoLUTE
>>151095566It's for Lieutenant
>>151095556This is what Vox dreams about
>Hey, it's me! Vox!
>>151095361Definitely Charlastor. She liked a tweet that insulted people shipping them lately.
>>151095566>>151095591And a lute is a guitar (sort of not really) and Adam liked playing guitar
>>151095137>Valentino's VA is in the Don't You Forget repriseThat poor deer man is getting raped.
>>151095682No Velvette though?
>>151095137>SAAR DO NOT REDEEM>BLOODY BASTURD BEETCH CHARLIE
>>151095653Back in the day it used to be normal for creators to be honest about which ships they fucking hate
>>151095660>>151095566Being Norwegian, Lute only makes me think of lutefisk, an awful seafood dish that's popular in the north, especially on christmas eve.
>>151095927She is pale like lutefisk isn't she.>lutefisk is fish>people joke that vaginas can smell like fishHas Adam been playing one big sick joke on her this whole time?
>>151095566Amazing
>>151095137>Tell Cherry that each night she spends unremembered I will be cucking her
>>151095504we know Peter
Well fuck.
>>151096263Then why isn't she just Eve
>>151095660No, it's literally just short for lieutenant. Lute was her placeholder name during the early writing process and they decided to not give her a new, real name.
>>151096427I know I was just making a goof :)
>>151095137>conservative white bitch has bad taste in men >wants genocide after her trash bf gets killed via FAFOWorst part is she's gonna kill a member of the main cast by the end
>>151096580We know Vaggie and Lucifer, her likely targets, survive this season. I could see her killing Sera.
I've always been confused by how Vox evolved into modernity if he's meant to have died in the 1950s
>>151096863Thought he died in the 70s
>>151096863he's modern in the afterlife, but ancient to us
>>151096640>I could see her killing SeraI think Emily will take the blow
>>151096863He upgrades his heads over the years! You can see it in a background photo where he had a CRT head at one point
Someone was saying last thread they wanted jesus to have more presence it's a christian show, but it's more abrahamic rather than christian because lilith exists in the show.
COMING
>>151097305IIIIIIIITS TV TIME!
>>151095361>>151095442It's almost like....interacting with the fan base directly is a bad idea because they are ALL parasocial crazies.Whoda thunk it?
>>151096356How do you think he made all those other exorcists?God made Eve from a rib. So Adam took Eves rib to make more of her. Yes. Vaggie is Eve as well. In fact, she is the ACTUAL VAGINA of Eve
>>151097273I feel like this is some equivalent to plastic surgery
>>151095361Adam x someone for sure.
>tells Charlie that redemption is possible >It helps in almost nothing because there's zero proof for the rest of hellCouldn't she at least send a picture of the guy in his heaven form......
>>151097530The only character anyone ships Adam with enough to be vocal to the point Viv would be aware is Lute and she likes that ship. She doesn't hate Adam at all.
>>151095361Is fucking Alastor with Charlie, she hates that people don't take Charlie's romance with Vaggie super serious or think she has more chemistry with Alastor
>>151097655Charlastor shippers are pretty obnoxious and entitled though, they've made up a whole song and dance about how it was totally going to be canon until Viv was bullied into dropping it for Chaggie. Then there was that time they swarmed Viv's birthday stream because they wanted to make that Charlastor day.
>>151096863It's supposed to contrast with Alastor who hates anything made after the 20s
>>151095361
>>151097791Does anyone sincerely ship this besides like 20 people
>>151096356>>151097471>>151096263I think it has to do with this scene of Lute and Eve already being present together in opposing sides.
>>151097880You don't believe!?
>>151097293Dude, Jesus is the guy who shown up to Abraham and told him he wanted to kill the cities for being too gay.
Jesus is chilling somewhere playing hacky sack
>>151097952Rather than locking up the homeless
>>151098285Based, huge fan of this dynamic
>>151095137Katy’s voice is weird
>>151097952Nah. Makin' chairs and tables.
>>151097880It's mainly a "theyre sexy" thing
>>151097715>Then there was that time they swarmed Viv's birthday stream because they wanted to make that Charlastor day.Should have made it Autism Awareness Day
>>151095361Charlastor loses and radioapple wins. It's that simple.
>>151095697Al may be fruity, but he's not female (yet)
>>151095682Vox and Valentino will mock Alastor and then have another scene fucking. It's pretty simple. Alastor raped fans will win and lose simultaneously. It will never go as far as they shlick it to and hope.
>>151097890>he still thinks Lilith is Eve and not just a shitty mom
>>151096263Why would she be unrecognized as Eve by Adam and others if so?
>>151096928Don't you put that evil into the world
>>151098868She cut her hair
>>151098857Alastor fujos want him broken and crying so badly but it will never go as far as they fantasize. And he'll be on the rise after this season to set him up as a semi final villain. These shows are pretty predictable if you aren't stupid.
>>151098868Eve is Roo. It's pretty obvious.
Why more birb mommy
Back in S1 Lucifer made a call to someone in heaven to arrange Charlie meeting with SeraI think he might have called the Speaker for a favor
>>151098917He'll start rising in power and team up with his one true love (the root of all evil) before a super rushed "emotional" gay redemption arc at the endI wish he'd just stay an evil bastard desu
>>151099001She'd be more likely to indulge him than Sera. I can't wait for his mommy issues scene where they reveal he makes rubber ducks to echo her.
>>151099010Yeah unfortunately he'll heel turn on Roo ultimately to defend Charlie and will end the series as a wishy washy chaotic neutral. Again, this show is predictable. At least he'll probably do interesting damage before that point.
>>151099027>I can't wait for his mommy issues scene where they reveal he makes rubber ducks to echo her.
>>151099027>Lucifer creates the Goetia because he still misses Heaven- He inadvertently creates the same kind of superiority complex society that cast him outHe just keeps losing and screwing himself over.
>>151096533Kek
>>151095682Are we sure they didn't get it mixed up? The emojis used on the reprise were more about Rosie than the Vees. Track 10 has Alastors emoji, a rose and a bone, while track 8 has Alastor's emoji, Vox's emoji and a brain.
>>151099001I wouldn't be surprised if he called her semi-periodically for some unofficial therapy session
>>151097536It's unironically better that she doesn't, Knowledge poisons the water. Even learning with certainty that redemption is possible by unknown means taints all actions done for its service.
>>151096263It's a compelling idea, but the way Eve was portrayed in the opening scene with malicious eyes and red engulfing her makes it likelier that she's just Roo. Jessica might have tweeted this before S2 recordings so she just wanted to throw a bone to theorists, and realized too late she shouldn't have posted that.I also think she would either just be seen as Eve by the rest of Heaven, or Adam would hate her for "ruining" his life down there. Neither which seem to be happening.
>>151099217Season 2 reviews confirm the Vox and Valentino version is the "electric" reprise and the Rosie and Alastor number is the original. The official accounts just fucked up.
>>151095137What’s her name?
>>151099254I think the arc of the story is that Lute is unexpectedly playing a massive part in knocking off the power Eve (Roo) has in Adam’s life. As she is the key factor for Adam to move on from Eve.
>>151099270which review? I hadn't seen this one
>>151099311Fifteen Seconds of Fame.Pretty long, isn’t it?
>>151095137luv Lute simple as
>>151098917Yeah he's not Angel Dust. He won't have 100 rape scenes. Reviews suggest he sits around and mocks Vox's plans instead which means he's not some miserable rape victim. I wouldn't be surprised if Alastor gave Vox the idea to try and hypnotize Lucifer.
I wonder how tall Eve is.
>>151099345This one: https://riot-us.com/2025/10/27/hazbin-hotel-s2-ups-the-ante-with-delightful-devilry-and-bombastic-musical-numbers/>"Cabaret-esque number “Don’t You Forget” and its villainous reprise is electrifying (quite literally)."
>>151095137FOR THE INDIGNATION OF THE LORD IS UPON ALL NATIONS, AND HIS FURY UPON ALL THEIR ARMIES: HE HATH UTTERLY DESTROYED THEM, HE HATH DELIVERED THEM TO THE SLAUGHTER.
You know that laser from heaven in the trailer?I think it would be done by Sera when she’s ragebaited by Vox.
>>151099533Nah, he'll bait Lucifer to do it. The reminder that Lucifer still has that much power against Heaven will lead Sera to direct the angelic troops again.
>>151099576Lucifer’s laser is red.
>>151099602Lucifer can summon gold magic in season 1 and creates a gold sword in season 2.
>>151097655>she has more chemistry with AlastorShe did in the Pilot at least, and even in show Charlie/Alastor would have that whole "I can fix him/I can make her worse" dynamicif Viv wanted people to like Chaggie maybe she should have made Vaggie more than a boring ass prop that's entire personality revolves around Charlie.
Why didn't Adam fuck the craziness out of her?
How popular is Hazbin among normies? How many seasons are we going to get?
>>151099926Adam is THE first man, wise beyond our all of usHe knows to not stick his dick on crazy
>>151099947decently popular and they already confirmed that season 3 will happen
>>151099818Vaggie could’ve been an angel boy.
>>151099967He did the craziest chick of them all.
>>151100095and he learned from his mistake
>>151100112By refusing to mate.
>>151099926You can’t do that in heavens army.
>>151100078but adam doesn't want to make angel boys
>>151100112Judging by Lute, not at all.
>>151100387After he comes back, he will make some the old fashion way.
>>151099010>be half-black>go to heaven>turn whitewhat did they mean by this
>on his way up to Heaven Vox passes through earth>"Wow sucks to be you guys">refuses to elaborate, ascends
>Alastor had access to multiple angelic weapons during the battle with Heaven (his shadow tendrils were using them to absolutely devastate the executioners)>Fights Adam with the intent to kill him>does not use any of those angelic weaponswhy? pride?
>>151101781>pride?Yes, Alastor has a huge ego
>>151101788I am so far enjoying that in Season 2 he seems to be more a background character right now who's just impotently seething about how he got his ass kicked
yoooo apparently hot topic has an alastor shirt with his human form on it but twitter won't leak the full version. here's a photo someone posted but the user covered the face up. can someone in america go to hot topic and photograph the shirt pretty please?
>>151101987what's the point of taking a picture if you're just going to hide his face
>>151102004guess they're trying not to spoil it for other users on the site since twitter doesn't have a spoiler function
>>151102004marketing tactic to make people go to hot topic. the account is probably a bought shill account that's been made to seem it's a hh fan.maybe.
>google human alastor season 2>this shows upIs this not it, seems to match what we see of him here >>151101987
>>151102035i guess i'm leaving the thread until the season finale then.
>>151099926It must fuck with her head seeing Abel wear Adam's mask.
>>151101788It's crazy that he believes his own hype so much, considering>would just be a D-Tier gimmick demon if he didn't sell his soul to someone far more powerful>is still in servitude to that person, meaning he knows full well he's far from the strongest Overlord>Couldn't even beat Vox in the past ("are you still pissed he ALMOST beat you that time?")ah but here comes Adam, the leader of the otherwise immortal executionersI can totally take him 1 on 1 with cheap magic tricks
if alastor is part black, and if charlastor was canon, would the people on 4chan be complaining about yet another white woman and black man ship?
>>151102087probably, they're mad about chaggie
>>151102091imagine being mad about these sweeties
The human Alastor design is so funny because it's probably going to be the only one where his the silhouette of his sinner form doesn't roughly match his human one. Like how Pentious' long hair became a cobra hood and you can see Angel's human hairline even though he's covered in fur. Now it just looks like getting a weird hairdo was part of Alastor's punishment.
>>151102152So that's the power behind his hypnosis
>>151095361Adam and Nifty. Don't tell her you heard it from me. It's rare, but just enough fags out there to get under her skin.
>hell is hell, so most people want to leave>but heaven is annoying unless you like 24/7 uwu friendship parties>also none of this can change because good and evil are real, sapient entitieswhat's the point of the show then
>>151102294Heaven seems pretty chill when you aren't being given tours
>>151095211someone died
guessing from leaks>alastor gets btfo by the Vs>lucifer gets captured by them because alastor calls in his deal and makes sure charlie can't harm them
>>151101987Huh, did these ship these out a little too early or what?
>>151103127Did they decide against the mustache after all?
>>151095469>Franx: That FRANKER is Frank!>Frankentino: yeah, I Franked he was Franked for Frank too.>Franx: It's been seven Franks!>Frankentino: You still Franked that he almost Franked you that time?>Franx: Uh, Frank you!>Frankentino: Just Franking.
>>151103127thanks! but also wow, his head is massive in this artworkidk why amazon doesn't mind spoiling their show. maybe they don't care and would rather have the merch prepared and earn money sooner than worry about a face reveal
>>151103127*did they ship these outI really need to start triple-checking what I type before posting.
Is it just me or are the Vs the best singers and get the best songs?Only ones who can compete are Adam and Lute
>>151102994I'm pretty sure Lucifer doesn't really need Charlie to protect him
If I had a nickel for every time the Hellaverse referenced the Yoshi and Toad kissing meme, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice, right?
>>151095361>>151095442>>151097655Yup. She wants to force her le inclusive woke lesbian relationship on the fanbase, then gets pissed when most people prefer the idea of a straight relationship.
>>151097791>>151097880It would be ultimate "fuck you" payback against Lucifer kek.
>>151101781Nah Adam aggressively wrecked his deer boi pussy so he couldn’t pull his shadow tendril bs
>>151099989not only s3 but s4 was greenlit awhile ago
>>151099947100 years
>>151099311Avery
>>151095361Charlie x Alastor. She never said anything herself, but if you were following her back in 2019-2020, she would often like tweets shitting on the ship because Charlie is a canon lesbian and Alastor is older than her.
>>151102294Probably because from the start of even the pilot, free will and what your average person/sinner can do seems pretty important.Your exorcists can get lazy and leave weapons that can end themselves behind, can even call this a slothful sin that they can willingly perform. And your sinners can get exponentially powerful enough to even tango with archangels even if only for a brief few minutes. Let alone actually fight back against exorcists.It's obviously about change, but I get the feeling you don't really care about that even though the lengths these free souls can go to are interesting watches to spit in the 'objectivity' shit going on in the universe.
I'm far more invested in Adam and Lute than any other characters in this show. Without them I think I'd lose my interest in the show desu.
Did Lute ever find out what they were even talking about?
>>151102315Pentious is a unique case since he only got to Heaven via the connections he made in Hell. Had he just appeared in Heaven in the first place, he would have been fine.
>>151103171Here's hoping. Made him look like a queer.
It's very clear sinners and winners are decided by how they feel about themselves. That's why there is good people in hell like pentious and bad people in heaven like lute. The show is clearly an argument against paradise lost, because it was too black and white of way of seeing good and evil. Pentious made it there because he THOUGHT he was a horrible person for not speaking up about jack the ripper, in reality he was sweet and just a guy with autism who wanted friends. I really think lute will corrupt and go to hell and work with the Vs AGAINST heaven. There is nothing right about her anger. Eye for an eye makes the whole world go blind. She needs support for sure but she needs to be willing to receive that support and she isn't. Grief can mess you up if you're not careful and she isn't being that. Adam is a shit licking incel that just happened to be her friend and in all honesty if anyone is evil in the myths it's Adam. He tries to rape Lilith in most tellings of this story which results in her being put aside to meet Lucifer and for them to start plotting against Adam. I could go on an on but we all know lute is not getting her way and it should be that way
>>151103643ThisI only care about the "bad guys" in this because Adam and Lute are WAY more fun to watch than any of the other characters
>>151103915>She needs support for sure but she needs to be willing to receive that support and she isn't.No one in heaven is willing to offer that though. They just ignore her, dismiss her concerns, and downright mock her and demote her.
>>151103915>>151103949I don't think the show is gonna even address this, but Lute and Adam do seem especially set up for failure.>First man>First cucked>Presumably developmentally undercooked literally AS the first man>Probably does not even have the evolutionary genes that might be necessary for the modern day>Lute>Heavenborn presumably, and if not, drilled endlessly into not just worshipping Adam, but his mentality too.>But their mentalities aren't publicly agreed upon even in Heaven, in fact it's frowned upon even early on by Sera and is just a means to an end.>Clearly was gonna isolate, and leave her unable to be helped by anyone.>So Emily reaching out to her is clearly in vain but pretty fundamentally because the cards were stacked against her too.Even with all this though, she does need to want to actually change too, which is why she's constantly blurting out in court and even looks disgusted she's gotta go to these lengths, because she's all alone and no one is there anymore that gets her way of thinking or can even challenge her properly.For Adam, nah, he deserved what was coming to him. And Lute? To an extent still yeah, but I can't help to acknowledge there's systematic issues on both sides of Heaven and Hell in this setting that causes cases like Lute and Pentious to happen, both are genuinely tragedies in the making due to the overall design of how souls get treated and it's only NOW being acknowledged, possibly countless souls either unjustifiably damned for nothing, or given salvation when they're monsters.Viv clearly did not write this alone, this does present WAY too much more depth than I'd ever give her credit for. Because there's just so much to really go with how these characters are depicted and what it means for the environments around them and as a result, where they could go as characters or even where the setting could go.It's good shit honestly, even if probably not intentional. It's why I'll keep watching.
>>151103915i think what you've written is interesting. i'll keep it in mind as the show progresses
>>151103951Are you media literate? Rewatch the episode. Sera did and so did the speaker! It's about mindset. Cry about it but your angel is about to fell
>>151104067Sera demoted Lute and told her to fuck off after relying on her and Adam to do a top secret mission for years
>>151104079No, she told lute violence wasn't the answer any more because lute was stuck on getting revenge due to grief and redemption was proven. Emily also reaches out to her. Stop being blinded by your need to simp for a girlboss. It's hot on her sure but literally she is a shitty person and she is caving under pressure if she was a true winner, lute would say yes sir and ask what she can do to help. She is a soldier of her motives not heaven and that much is obvious in how she treated and still treats vaggie.
>>151104079Btw that mission went on under gods nose. Top secret mission in a betrayal of god? Who are you actually rooting for? What are YOUR values?
>>151104109Hellaverse is the "simping for female villains who absolutely don't deserve it" franchise.
Well it isn't Charlie x Verbalase
>>151103591More mature maybe, but not older. Isn't Charlies like 200? Assuming Alastor died by age 30, he'd be around 100 at the most in current year
>>151104585"Older" in the aspect that mentally he's at very least a middle aged guy, while Charlie might be over 9000 years old but she acts like a very young adult.>>151103643Didn't Adam die?
>>151104770Yes but now he's backIn schizo hallucination form
>>151104770>Didn't Adam die?Yes but he still lives on as Lute's tulpa.
>The retards who hate Adam and Lute entered the thread
>>151104862Shut up butt monkey
>>151095137So when watching the song about the Vees going to Heaven and Velvette talking about tearing off angel wings and making a dress, I couldn't help but think back to the idea of Emberlynn angel milk farm. That the discarded angels would end up there.
>>151104886Just imagining the angels tied up to milking machines and Emberlynn forcing them to watch her shitty anime as she explains her ships
>>151095566>Adam>he is ADAMant about his believes
>>151103127This is the least surprising way he could have looked possible lmao
>>151103915I think lute and the others were created specifically to kill sinners. That is there purpose and function.
>>151104109Lute's not even a girlboss lol that's how pathetic she is
>>151105837She’s a girl lieutenant. Do you think the remaining exterminators are going to follow this little turd.
>>151095442She's full of shit. Angel and Val get merch together but Charlastor is crossing a line? Because it's too heteronormative and that's not what the show is about according to her?Before anyone brings up "they were annoying m'lady on twitter once 5 years ago," multiple others have done the exact same thing and don't get as much shit.
>>151097715Conveniently leaving out it was also the anniversary of the Pilot. People are gonna post their favorites that day.>people shipping characters? on my birthday and the anniversary? how dare they
>>151103591Charlie is not a lesbian, and is in fact older than him.
>>151095137What I don't like about this whole redemption thing is that it's way too fast.Charlie is acting like a couple years of nebulous good behavior and poof you are a good person. Where is sitting in a jail cell for years? Being alone with the actions you committed on earth? I wonder how they would react if lets say, they had to maintain their change of heart for a million years or something like that, a blink of an eye compared to forever. Purgatory.
>>151105987Girlboss isn't always literal it's also a bit of an archetype or a trope.
>>151104109>>151104014Why do you think that because sinners could be redeemed means they would be redeemed?Even Adam only killed a single good person out how many souls he and the exorcists slain, and Pentious was unleashing weapons of mass destruction during it.By his own words in season 1 episode 8, he knows that Hell dwellers denied his righteousness and embraced the wickedness of abusing each other as resources. His first instinct to see a Hell dweller in Heaven (which these incompetent dumb lords of Angels failed to alert him, their guard, about) was to immediately get rid of them as quickly as possible. He knows they are highly dangerous and Heaven is too gated and delusional to consider that underestimating them at all is a horrible idea.Heaven is on the complete opposite extreme of Lute. Lute and Sera doesn’t know the secrets Adam hides under the table to know how Adam will feel about seeing a redeemed Sinner, but the Heaven dwellers in general leave themselves to being completely exploited and obliterated by never once thinking “Wait, if only one soul was redeemed, then what did that mean for the others?” They don’t get it at all despite Adam having to cut off Eve from his life because she is evil.
>>151106020I don't think she thinks it's "problematic," I think she just doesn't like it. And that makes her predisposed to be more critical of and annoyed by its shippers compared to others and it's no deeper than that. She acts like your average annoying fan even about her own show.
>>151106055They wanted to make it Charlastor Day like other ships do where it becomes an annual thing and they flooded Viv's stream with it.
Heaven in this show is in the state of Sardis that I will not be surprised if Abel tries to sleep with Lute to reference the sexual sin that occurred in that city.
>>151106239>Where is sitting in a jail cell for years? Being alone with the actions you committed on earth?Probably the part where you end up in Hell and are left to your own devices.>I wonder how they would react if lets say, they had to maintain their change of heart for a million years or something like that, a blink of an eye compared to forever.It'd probably depend on what got them sent to Hell. We really shouldn't be treating Pentious' redemption as a clean blueprint for the process, a lot of it is actually vague when you think about it (and that was intentional on Viv's part).
>>151106600>if Abel tries to sleep with LuteIf anyone's going to sleep with Lute it would be Peter
>>15109536195% sure it's Charlastor. She's been pretty bitter over that ship ever since fans of it ruined her birthday a few years back.
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>>151106964Don’t you want to be a big shot?
>>151103606>Your exorcists can get lazy and leave weapons that can end themselves behind, can even call this a slothful sin that they can willingly perform.I think they were leaving the weapons on purpose, counting that the sinner would use them to kill each other in between exterminations and that no sinner would be crazy or dumb enough to go after them Maybe pride, maybe failed strategy, but not sloth
>>151107088Nah, sloth. There's literally nothing stopping them from just going back down to collect them either.
>>151107126you didn't understood what I wrote They didn't went back to collect the weapons because they left them on purpose so the sinners would use them to kill each other in between extermination
>>151107088>>151107210I think you're giving the exorcists as a collective too much credit
Be Lute, kill sinner for fun. One time after being asked to stop SEVERAL times, my boss gets killed. This is of course Hell's fault. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
https://files.catbox.moe/87rmn8.jpg
>>151107341You do realize that the Sinners are legitimately awful and malicious people and we’re following the exceptions to the rule that hasn’t yet been broken, right?
The theorist inside me thinks that Abel will do something utterly disgusting. The falloutboy fanboy inside me wants to reject it and say he’s just going to sing great songs.
>>151107439Why not just let them rot in hell then?The plot would not have happened if there were never any exterminations in the first place
>>151107439I'd actually argue that most Sinners are at or below Pentious' level of awfulness.>>151107542Because SUPPOSEDLY Hell has an overpopulation problem. We haven't been given any official metric on Hell's population is and what Heaven considers to be a healthy number.
>>151107604Should have just nuked them with the giant space laser Adam usedThe exorcists got sloppy and now they're paying the price
>>151107697But that wouldn't be fun. Adam and the exorcists got a kick out of leaving enough alive just so they can barely rebuild in time for the next extermination.
>like watching hazbin>won't watch helluva because it looks like gay furry slop am I right or am I retarded
Did Vivzie confirm that Adam was genuinely concerned about Lute, or was she just another one of many in the crowd for him?I have a feeling that if it were the latter, this song would be more suited to Lute ( https://youtu.be/3z_QLTvgkak?si=LX88YN8oVxONL1o_ ) And this one to Adam ( https://youtu.be/0L0HoBAjqj4?si=fjHMw4AUyAqnwwNf ).
>>151107786Its gay furry slop but season 1 is better than anything hazbin ever did
>>151107803We haven't gotten any information about how Adam feels about Lute. I imagine Jessica and Alex know though.
>>151107786It's actually pretty slice of lifey but the problem is that as a result, Stolas and Blitz's REAL evident relationship is practically the only main driving force of the whole show. And if you don't like it, you're only gonna really get enjoyment out of essentially side plots or episodes where Blitz and/or Stolas is NOT the focus.Some of mine is admittedly just Fizz/Ozzie who are just speedrunning Stolas/Blitzo's 2 seasons of bullshit in like 3 episodes.Also it's hard to get attached to the villains because they rarely show up enough or are exponentially getting nerfed with each appearance they get.tl:dr, if you watch it, enjoy the small moments and try to find something about Stolitz's shit you can enjoy but def a hard pill to swallow it's REALLY the stolitz show.
>>151103127>>151103171If this is accurate I'm going to be so happy
>>151107786You're right. It starts off strong and quickly devolves into the plot revolving around (literally) gay drama that has nothing to do with imps assassinating people
>Alastor was ambiguously brown with a better hairdo in lifeHe's hotter this way desu, hoping this leads to another round redesigns.
>>151099947A few more if the show keeps getting bigger
When's the next episode coming out?
full shirt, this shows security is so ass
>>151108029The 5th, every Wednesday until the 19th
>>151108043It does look like they decided not to go with the moustache
>>151106239>Where is sitting in a jail cell for years?What do you think Hell is?
>>151107803Lute probably feels way more strongly about Adam than vice versa, but they seem to at least be mutually good friends. they're shown hanging out together outside of work, and Adam seems pretty content to die by her side in season one's finale. I'd pretty confidently say them being together in practically every scene they have is just as much Adam's choice as it is a product of Lute's title and personal infatuation
>>151108156If Adam comes back (as a Sinner or reanimated corpse) I can definitely seeing the crux of their issue being Adam not realizing he had someone who had his back all along while Lute realizes he didn't care as much and it actually bothers her (and they still end up together before someone yells at me). He'd have to do something pretty bad to break the hold he has on her though.
>>151095211She started going through an emo phase.
Why is Abel fat? You're telling me they don't have semaglutide pills in Heaven?
>>151108326Because he's his father's son
>>151108326from what we've seen, I'm pretty certain heaven only has desserts and other sweet foods available, frankly the real question is how there's not MORE fatties than just Abel and his dad
>>151108326>Why is Abel fat?have you saw how much sugar they eat daily ?
two thingsepisode 2 felt so clunky it's insane. I felt twice some scenes were drawn and voiced hoeshorned in as the pacing that united them was terrible.again it sucks that this series NEEDS to be a musical every 3 seconds. a couple of the songs are nice (lute's way pretty good) second thing is abel exists, where is cain? in hell no? I imagine he's plot relevant then?
>>151108546it would certainly be very strange if we didn't get Cain after establishing Abel as a fairly important new character. inb4 Abel ends up face to face with Cain once more now that he's stuck actually doing exterminations, and promptly gets beaten to death all over again
>>151108537>Average American diet
>Remember when you said you would have sex with everyone ?>Well, you didn't specify just everyone in hell, just everyone...
>>151108600Lute latches onto Cain and starts hallucinating him as Adam.
>>151108785Actually he did specify.>Uh... Uh...uhm... because I'm having sex with everyone here!
>>151095361It's Chalastor but beyond that this is a real double-edged sword. I think creators SHOULD be allowed to take part in the fandom of their own show BUT shipping and fandoms are so toxic it feel irresponsible to engage with it like this knowing it will get many people harassed
>>151108043you're black? you're not black.
>>151108801she is absolutely schizo enough to do this lmao. honestly Lute actively seeking out Cain as the only other person who's willing to be an exterminator in more than name only could be something interesting. that or she just fucks him while making him wear Adam's mask, both work
what would happen if a sinner somehow managed to escape hell and return to earth?
>>151108931Hell-hounds are send to drag them back
>>151108931I could easily see that issue being a justification for a Helluva Boss crossover season or just an episode or few.
So she should totally join the Hotel as staff right? She’s got the fashion sense.
>>151109024Qtpie
>>151109024if they ever show alot of residents that are really booked into the Hotel it would be a missed opportunity to not have her
>>151109024She has a character design that at least screams "recurring character", it would be a waste if she was just thrown away as an extra. Like why make her the center of attention if you're not going to do something with her character? But Vivziepop is ADHD enough just to completely forget her and make some random ass shit up to keep the story going without using Chekov's Guns.
>>151109024I love how all of the Hellaverse women have gigantic eyelashes
>>151109064don't forget that most hellaverse women also have black lipstick thanks to vivzie's fetish
The song Gravity is like your average song you'd hear early into the evening in a Goth night DJ set, not sure if that's a good or a bad thing.
>>151109070based fetish thanks viv
>>151109070I wish I could live in a place where everyone is Extra Gay and Super Thin and only ever dresses Goth/Scene even at boardroom meetings. Hell just looks more like fun in the Hellaverse than Heaven does.
>>151109097The techno-pop sugar vomit look Heaven has going is unique at least
>>151103915Interestingly in Orthodox Christianity there is an eighth deadly sin 'Despair' and it's pretty much what happened to Sir Pentious. In that it applies to people who don't think they're worthy of going to heaven. So if you take that into account into Hazbin's universe it could go a long way to explain why there can be nice people in hell. Because they too felt they were not worthy in life to ascend.
>>151095469I actually tried doing this by putting Black Hat from Villainous own face on Vox's face last night, but the Paint programme on my laptop couldn't get it to go on his head as it overlapped it.
>>151109128nah, his sin was clearly sloth negligence of doing what he knew was right
>>151095137Lute is best girl
>>151109182GIVE EMILY YOUR ENERGY
>>151109165i want her to use me to let out her sexual frustrations
>>151108910And he's just creeped out because she's his dad's friend and could have been his stepmom.
Based on what we saw from the show, how many of us would end up in hell ?
>>151109206>>151109182If Emily from Hazbin Hotel met Emily from Class of '09, how do you think their interaction would go?
>>151095469>>151095627Where's the Yes Man edit?
>>151109213All of us
Do you retards ever get tired of projecting profound truths into a vapid Tumblr landwhale's gay furry musical?Whatever passes for story here is clearly just a low-effort afterthought to tie together the faggy music videos.
>>151109213ive jerked off to fan art of the virgin mary so probably
>>151109240They're both awful, does that settle it?
>>151109240I like watching this show but I don't disagree with you. The worldbuilding and lore make Harry Potter and RWBY look like well-structured works of literary genius.
>>151109240i like charlie
>>151109213divine judgment is arbitrary, even a dickhead like Adam made it into heaven despite the fact that he swear, curse and make lewd jokes
>>151109240this art is 100x hotter than Viv. why is Viv so ugly?
>>151109240Stella's writing isn't misogynistic because she's somehow the actual good guy and a victim, it's misogynistic because she's so fucking boring and pointless. I WISH she was written like Val is so at least she'd be funny.
>>151109213Sing it Anon
>>151109024Fanart will give her huge butt.
>>151109300Because she is a Latina Hispanic
>>151109289>despite the fact that he swear, curse and make lewd jokeswhy do you think any of those would be damnable sin or even sins in the first place ?
>>151109300because she got fat
>>151109213We'd all be ones of the Vees' bitches in one week
>>151109363He's a blatant misogynist, that didn't earn him a ticket to Hell, what does that say about judgment in the afterlife?
I liked that tweet where Viv compared Vox to a real politician, even though Vox is like a million times smarter and more charming than any of the douchebags with access to real world levers of power.
>>151109377Honestly she’s hot fat and I want to stuff her greedy Latina face.
>>151109395Many Christian churches' version of Biblical exegesis doesn't consider misogyny, homophobia/transphobia, racism etc. explicitly bad and in fact some religious leaders actively encourage those "-isms" based on their reading of scripture. There's room for commentary in there if Hazbin Hotel wanted to actually be deep - which, well, it isn't.
>>151109406SHE'S NOT THO I HAVENT SEEN ONE FLATTERING PICTURE OF CURRENT DAY VIV SHE DOESN'T WEAR HER FAT IN A SEXY WAY AND I'M PISSED
>>151109395because he understood the original divine design of women: to serve man, not as an equal but as a subordinate>>151109420this, old biblical texts are anti-feminist
>>151109400Need moar slutty e-girl Charlie.
>>151109390That assumes that we would be hot enough to qualify
>>151109395All that we saw was him being an ass and doing some jokesWhy would that be a sin ?
Pick your guardian angel:>One will always comfort you in times of need and try her best to keep you content>One will always intimidate your enemies to death and will probably laugh along your jokes if they're cruel enough
>>151109457You're desensitized by 4chan. If you spend a lot of time away from this website and don't internalize its culture you start to realize that guys who talk about their dicks all the time or who reduce women to their vaginas and tits aren't pleasant to be around, and usually justifiably get themselves in trouble for making other people feel uncomfortable when those guys aren't shielded by positions of power.
>>151109467emily without exception, lute is too humorless and serious for my taste even if she look sexy
>>151109457that's like saying "alastor was just a guy who murdered people in life and ate their meat because it was delicious, why would that be irredeemable?"do you even hear yourself m8
>>151095137I like how they're making Lute cartoonishly crazy to give the appearance that she isn't totally correct about the sinners planning to attack Heaven
>>151109439We would be literal jannies or errand-runners. Who would be the most tolerable?>Velvette: if you piss her off she WILL make you want to kill yourself>Angel: will probably ignore you but if you catch his eye you're fucked (literally)>Vox: literally has eyes everywhere, probably no breaks ever and he has a strict grueling schedule>>151109467Emily, Lute would be exhausting to deal with
>>151109472that has nothing to with the question why should doing some shitty jokes and being kind off an ass be a damnable sin or a sin in the first place ?
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>>151099926 She'd probably be even angrier and want to slaughter more demons over the ordeal
>>151108546i would have loved to see in case they go with Immortal wanderer Cain as a person who lived through Humanity's ups and downs and saw the complexity of human existence so he hates how Heaven and Hell see humans as some toys that they can control and play with.>"Adam may be regarded as the Father of Humanity; however, I consider myself the elder sibling of all humankind."
i need some yandere emily that drawfag needs to draw her
>>151099926its makes no sense that NOTHING would have happened between them
>>151109649>Cain Onii-chan
>>151109677Could turn out that Adam didn't really did anything with anyone after eve and all his "I'm the dickmaster" was just a persona he crafted to hide the wounds Lillith and Eve left on his heart
>>151109677Lute never got the nerve and Adam's thoughts on her are an enigma. Maybe she's not his type.
Adam should have won and claimed Charlie as a wife.Just endlessly plap her and make her calm him daddy just to spite Lilith.
i actually dislike how they exaggerated lute's wrathful tendencies in the second season, part of her charm in the first season was about how stoic and sharp she was when everyone else was clowning around, now she's just another meme.
>>151109798She had her status-quo of thousands of years destroyed and in a really devastating way. Also she was always kind of crazy.
>>151109798ignoring your comment it is weird the show hasn't produced any memes. I remember "I can suck your dick" being spammed to hell and back when the pilot came out. But for the full series,nothing.
>>151109831The songs have been decently memorable.
>>151109831Stayed Gone had a meme but only on reddit with Alastor saying and here's the sugar with cream I stole your meme
>>151109819>her status-quo of thousands of yearsNTA but we don't know Lute's age, she could range anywhere from being 20 years old to being nearly as old as Adam himself
>>151109892Didn't Lute help Adam convince Sera that the exterminations need to be a regular thing?
>>151109892It's weird to me how Lute react very impulsively considering that if she had centuries of discipline honed by countless exterminations she should atleast know how to control herself during high-stress situations.You can't tell me she had an extremely deep relationship with Adam since he didn't have any romantic feelings toward her and simply saw her as a competent warrior.
>>151109395>He's a blatant misogynistI don't doubt that he loves lording himself over women, but the most respect he's shown is to women. He was friendly with Charlie at first, he has a badass army that he clearly appreciates and he obviously respects Sera, even apologizing to her.
>>151109916I'm not sure how much discipline the exorcist needed given that they only faced organised opposition once and their first real crushing defeat soon after
>>151109924>the most respect he's shown is to womenLol how? He literally named one of his Exorcists on a cunt, and the reason why he defer to Sera is because she's his superior, not because he likes her or anything.Subordination doesn't equal respect.
I think that if Adam didn't fuck Lute is because he subconsciously respected her too much to treat her as a pump-and-dump. He's been burnt by romantic love, so he just fucks around with women, but Lute means more to him than that (whether he realizes it or not) so he treats her as a really good friend, not wanting to go further in either direction so he doesn't inadvertently fuck his relationship with her.
>>151109924it's a classical case of taking banter too seriously
>>151109916She's never lost before and what's worse for her is that she lost in the first time she's had to face real opposition since the first uprising.>You can't tell me she had an extremely deep relationship with Adam since he didn't have any romantic feelings toward her and simply saw her as a competent warrior.It's just possible that Adam wasn't attracted to her. He probably didn't literally go around trying to hit up every woman he met.>>151109950And it gave us this funny expression lol he looks so genuinely humbled by the beauty of the world.
>>151109956anon i appreciate the effort but you're attempting to give depth to a character that isn't supposed to be anything more than an antagonistic frat boy who enjoy control and being self-righteous, nothing else.
>>151109985Eh I think there's a 60% chance that that anon's right but I would say that Adam didn't realize that's why he never went for Lute. If you'd ask him he'd say something stupid like "no way I think of Lute as one of the guys!" and then Lute fucking kills herself.
>>151109950He names his girls after things he likes. Is it juvenile? Absolutely. But it's because that's unironically how he shows his affection. Hell, even though she's his enemy, he still compliments her on how she was. He clearly held her in high regard, and I'm sure he does the same to most of his girls. Lute is the obvious example, he compliments her, he lets her take charge during her part in You Didn't Know and hypes her up, he let's her grab him by the collar to reprimand him. The only time he actually blew up at her was when he was under immense pressure of his army dying for the first time and having to come up with a solution on the spot. Any other time it's pure banter. As for Sera, his "sorry" sounded so much like a kid apologizing to his mom. Again, he's very juvenile, but not because he truly hates women. That's just how he is.>>151109985His smile to Lute right before he dies says otherwise. That's a genuine smile of a guy who's glad to see someone important by his side as he passes.
>>151109524I think Velvette is the safest bet She is just an mean girl influencer type, she will likely roast you but she doesn't seem likely to try to rape you, have you raped for the camera or trying to indoctrinate you into a cult Also she seems to be the most cunning and professional of the three
>Lute: angels don't make mistakesDid she literally forget who Lucifer is? What about the fact that one of her fellow Exorcists betrayed the cause? Is she dumb?
>>151095682>original song isn't rated >reprise is E ratedI wonder how they'll change the lyrics
>>151110068that's just lute being arrogant and blind like adam is, they're zealots who ignore reality and would rather thrive in delusion
>>151110068>Is she dumb?Unironically yes. In a way Lute's a little pitiful.
Had he survived, how would he react to Pentious redemption ?
>>151109511That’s the point. Adam knew his children far better than Heaven does. And Lute saw them not care about his death and openly persuading to eat her sisters. Adam is pretty much the only one that is acting sane and the most aware of exactly how they operate.
>>151110169Similar to Lute, he would deny it or claim Pentious cheated his fate
If Lute died instead of Adam, I think he would've nuked Hell.
>>151110195He doesn't care about Lute as much as Lute care about him, unfortunately.He definitely would've been pissed though.
>>151109950>>151110048Oh, not to mention that he literally pushed up the Extermination date because of the death of only one of his girls. To say he doesn't care about the women is his life is fucking stupid.
Is FDR in heaven? I would like it if random notable people gave their opinion on things.>FDR gives Emily advice, along with Lincoln.>Sera turns to Alexander the Great and Constantine for guidance sometimes.>Lute speaks to Bismark.>Sir Pentious seeks help from Eddison.>Abel parties with Michael Jackson, who in Heaven is black.
>>151110216Does he care for the individual life lost or does he care about having one of "his" girls taken from him?
>>151110244>Michael Jackson, who in Heaven is black.Now hold on now I like fantasies but let's be realistic here
>>151110259>Abel: I thought you were... No, wait a minute. I thought that->Michael, dancing as he speaks: I was abducted by aliens in 1984 after my hair caught fire, HE-HE! They replaced me with a clone that got whiter over time, SHAMON-AH! By using the power of Mamase-Mamamah-Mamakusa, I was able to project my mind into that clone and prevent him from doing those nasty nasty things, but the strain was too much and we both died in 2009, HO!
>>151110308well ok
>>151110308I was more referring to Michael getting into heaven but this works too
>>151110308>>151110317Wait I like how you came up with a reason for Michael to not actually be guilty of molesting kids but then you said he basically didn't do it anyway
>>151110317Her face when she sees my dick.
>>151110251I think he's actually pissed that she's dead. He's angry for her, the fact that she was killed by sinners, terrible monsters that are beneath them. He's avenging her death. I think his desperate anger when they are dying in the final fight is also proof of this. He wouldn't have reacted that strongly to Lute pointing out the shield if he didn't actually care about what was going on.
>>151110216Vaggie aside Adam is a fucking excellent boss to those Exorcists compared to the Vees treating their employees as replaceable human trash and playthings and even Alastor with the souls he owns. You wouldn't see Adam torturing an exorcist because he had a bad day; it's simply OOC.>>151110251He gives them all individual names and points out that he recognizes Vaggie out of uniform. He does seem to make a point of knowing who they are. Doubtlessly he gets a kick out of being surrounded by pretty women but he doesn't treat them as possessions by any means. We know that he has flings with random citizens instead of fucking his exorcists.
>>151110169>>151110185You will see how he will actually act soon.
>>151110340>Abel: So did you molest those kids or not?>Michael moonwalks away.
>>151110343>Oh wow, I didn't know they came in Fun Sized!
>>151109213"cartoon porn addictions" was explicitly mentioned in the pilot
>>151109064>>151109061>>151109024I feel like she’s supposed to be a secretary bird, they’re very lanky and elegant looking with huge eyelashes and those feathers that look like what she has on the back of her head
Adam doesn't own Lute's soul BUT if he came back as an Overlord she'd hand it over without a second thought
So did the cannibals eat Adam?
>>151103591> angel dust image
>>151110557Something specific happened to his body that we're gonna find out about
>>151110435Yeah, but that’s not canon anymore.
>>151110557>>151110585Lilith would seal it or something since the redemption of sinners is meant for him.
>>151104770>Didn't Adam die?Someone theorized he's probably alive in a vegetative state under vox's possession
>>151110801>nobody kept an eye on the bodyC'mon Charlie>>151110789Look if you have a manifesto or whatever can you at least write it out instead of constantly alluding to it like we know what the fuck you're talking about
>>151110848Rosie is Lilith according to a massive leak from an angry worker that leaked HB content.
The Rosie being Lilith and Lilith being Eve leak still sounds so fucking stupid and I refuse to believe it's real until I see it actually happen with my own two eyes in the show.
>>151110928It's gonna be like the rise of skywalker leak with the ship and the knifeSomething so stupid it makes the leak sound fake
>>151110928I mean, how else do you explain her having the ability to make alastir the strongest Sinner?Not to mention>forced alastor to disappear the same time lilith did
>>151110928If it's still true I think at least Rosie being Lilith can't be anymore. It just doesn't add up. Rose made a deal with Alastor when he was alive 70 years ago, that would mean even before she "left" Lilith was moonlighting as her for years already for... some reason.
>>151110848>nobody kept an eye on the bodyMore like Rosie being too incompetent to keep a fat dead body secured>>151110955>I mean, how else do you explain her having the ability to make alastir the strongest Sinner?Because she's eve? Lilith is Lilith and she was brought to heaven by Adam for some reason, eve took Lilith's identity for some time for some reason before going back to only pretending to be rosieThe "leaker" made it too confusing with zero elaboration solely to confuse midwits
>>151110206>Literacy of a dyke whore
>>151111035It’s even dumber than I expected
>>151111115
>>151111128
>>151111150Well the thing about them being BFFs is wrong
>>151111128I fucking HATE "Roo" it's so fucking stupid. I don't care about Lilith/Eve twist but Roo is such a dumb concept.
>>151111115>>151111128>>151111150...>>151095361My ship is Adam and Keenie.
>>151111183[citation needed]
>>151111115>>151111128>>151111150Although there are true information there, not even this leaker knows the true order of things and what is supposed to be, so stop treating this as gospel
>>151111150This is retarded but fits what we know of ep4>rosie needs to have enough power to make alastor the strongest Sinner>has to be someone famous enough there are books on earth with rituals to summon her>had him disappear the same time lilith did
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>>151111183He still seems to genuinely enjoy the company of and respect Rosie/Lilith(?) regardless of their deal, he's just pissed that the plan is taking too long and his powers are still nerfed. Their song is just her reminding him of his place, kek.
So will Lute pull an “enemy mine” with Charlie to stop the Vees?
>>151111303>Lilith has a normal nose>Charlie has a dog nose>Lucifer has no nose
>>151111668That seems unlikely at best
>>151095137My one unrealistic hope for this season is that Lute survives it.
Kinda hoped Lucufer would really get killed by Lute, but between the Angel VA going off about everyone but Angel being happy in the finale, and Vivz talking about how lucifer and alastors relationship will evolve...the guy will clearly surviveI want Lute to have an impactful kill
>>151110928>The Rosie being Lilith and Lilith being Eve leak still sounds so fucking stupid and I refuse to believe it's real until I see it actually happen with my own two eyes in the show.Link to leak?
There's only one logical way I can see the inevitable Lute and Charlie confrontation going...
Odds Lute and Adam end up married sinner demons in Hell?
>>151111833these:>>151111115>>151111128>>151111150
>>151111816Yes and Lute's plot is confirmed to go nowhere interesting. Maybe next season will be better for her but she seems too small fry to be a meaningful antagonist in a season about the Morningstars.
>>151111854>>151111115>>151111128>>151111150Sounds like a bunch of bullshit propositions attempting to make connections out of what leaks exist. Some random screenshots of your texts don't tell us any information that wasn't already known.
>>151110963Rosie being related in some way to Lilith or Eve or even Roo, no doubt, but I think someone would have noticed either Rosie or Lilith being gone for massive chunks of time randomly over decades. I agree it makes no sense and something must have shifted if it was real.
>>151111816Being honest I think Lucifer is TOO important for someone like Lute to kill him. That would literally change the trajectory of the show. If I had to pick I think it's more likely that Lute will kill Sera.
if alastor is outerversal where does lucifer scale?
>>151111885>Lute's plot is confirmed to go nowhere interesting.Oh did we get leaks saying how that ends?
OOh wait. Lute's not going to end up trying to go after Lucifer or Vaggie, she's going to go for Lilith.
https://youtu.be/-pmR7IK5ehk?si=UQZHqOzJZ5DFLLgUJapanese Vox and Alastor are crazy kek
>>151111998>Oh did we get leaks saying how that ends?No it's just stitching context clues together. The two characters she'd want to kill, Vaggie and Lucifer, are confirmed to have survived the season. She probably doesn't even fall this season.
>>151111998More than one full season review said her plot is kind of a dud and disappointing despite Gravity being among the highest points in the soundtrack.
>Vox's secret weapon is supposedly the reanimated corpse of the guy who has already been killed by angelic weaponryI'm thinking it's just the shark
>>151112025Share the reviews, I've not seen those. The ones I read were complaining about Angel and other hotel members having little screentime, alongside Chaggie subplot being a dud.
>GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY SEASON
>>151112053Here's one of them from just doing a quick search: https://www.soundspheremag.com/reviews/hazbin-hotel-season-2-review-vivienne-medrano-delivers-a-hellish-upgrade/>A failed storyline is Lute’s (Jessica Vosk) role in this second season. After the death of Adam, she’s been truly affected and wants revenge against Hell, but with Heaven changing their ways, Lute has to go about getting revenge her own way. At least that’s what the show would lead you to believe. >There’s great writing hidden beneath the character, as we get hints of how deeply she felt for Adam, but all of her anger and emotion that’s built up within this episode doesn’t lead anywhere eventful and ends up being a rather disappointing loose end.
>>151111966Killing Sera would get Lute cast out of Heaven, and back into Adam’s now demonic arms.>>151111998Which is why Lute needs to become a demon.
>>151112070No
>>151112128Anyone who thought she'd do anything this season was huffing copium. She's to S2 what the Vees were to S1.
>>151112158We need Demon Lute, so we can get Adam back too.
>>151112128>>151112158From the leaks we got about Lute and Lucifer about months ago, they likely meant that she isn’t doing the big rebellion thing and will instead use this anger to help out with Heaven when the traumatized Seraphim fail to confront the V-controlled Lucifer.
>>151112049Nah. The only thing Heaven shown their fear for was Lucifer in Season 1.Lucifer is in a similar position as Lute by being ghosted by “Lilith”. And the Vees have the means to bring that fantasy to life to him.
>>151106065Charlie is essentially a lesbianCause vivzie will never commit the highest sin in lgbtqia media>having a woman drop a lesbian relationship in favor of a straight one
>>151112013I'm a fan of the Italian ones.Even funnier that the two VAs are siblings.
>>151111115>>151111128>>151111150Lute is the ship to blow up the Death Star (Eve). And she doesn’t even know it.
>>151112013crazy bad singers you mean(well okay, alastor is actually decent)
>>151109467Lute. Emily is too high energy for me and the stuff she showed off to Sir Pentious won't excite me that much either.
>>151111731>2000's Tumblr special snowflake and sexy man show>Obliviously set all degenerates to hell and gave reason for it>"What if Christians were the bad guys?!?!" plotline Yet still the only interesting aspect of this show was a skinny devoted white girl interested in a dominant man. Who is dead. Who will probably come back just to get owned again to really hammer home the theme.
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>>151106515Boohoo, poor vivzie.>shipping MY characters on the anniversary of MY Pilot and sending it to MY oh so important stream, say it ain't so
Can’t wait for the sperging over Ep. 4
>>151112332>having a woman drop a lesbian relationship in favor of a straight oneThis was normal for most LGBT stories for decades and was the only way to make them "palatable". Pretty sure there was a movie from like 2010 that won an Oscar and was about that.
>>151106809I hope it ain't Charlastor, because what's that say about her to go on a multi-year crusade against one ship? Especially if her first attempt at sinking it ("you're like a daughter to me" bullshitting) completely fell flat and people didn't buy it?Just log off social media if you don't like it, woman.
>>151112918Yeah if I was trying to have a celebration stream for my show and it got flooded by a discord full of stupid teens spamming their ship that was never going to be canon I'd hate them too. Charlastor sucks. Just write a self-insert OC like an actual normal person.
>>151108043Like over half of it was leaked ahead of time. No surprises left.
Nah, Lute is Eve. Jessica Vosk spilled the beans on that spoiler. Also, this is already debunked since Alastor and Rosie aren't bffs in the slightest.
>>151112964>what's that say about her to go on a multi-year crusade against one ship?Vague-tweeting about it once every few years isn't exactly a crusade.>Especially if her first attempt at sinking it ("you're like a daughter to me" bullshitting) completely fell flat and people didn't buy it?Viv's been in the fandom game long enough that she knows you can't stop people from shipping anything or liking a character (she makes Stella merchandise btw). It's not her fault that father-daughter relationships have been so sexualized that she can't write Alastor taking advantage of Lucifer's insecurities over him failing Charlie as her parent without people screaming that it's a Charlastor hint.
>>151112989>Also, this is already debunked since Alastor and Rosie aren't bffs in the slightest.They are, he's just getting impatient.
>>151112970You're gonna have to realize you can't micro manage how people perceive you and your characters eventually, viv. It's futile and you only make an ass of yourself everytime you try. >Thanks for your support and watching the pilot, now fuck you for shipping the wrong thing.
>>151113008It is if she's honestly still holding a grudge from 5 years ago.
>>151112989>Lute/Eve resents him>Adam never liked him>Cain killed himWhy does everyone in his family hate him?
>>151113043Charlastor fans haven't exactly stopped being obnoxious
I think Lute will eventually get pump and dumped by Cain
Why didn't Lute try to seduce Seth? He looks exactly like Adam.
>>151113033If the creator disliking a ship is enough to get a fandom shaking and crying, that's pathetic and I don't blame her for being irritated at them. Some creators hate every ship and actively tell their fandom to stop shipping, and the fandom just tells them to kick rocks in return. Charlastors need thicker skin. It'll never be canon so just shrug it off as Vivziepop having shit taste, buck up and have your damn fun with it.
>>151113070They went from being obnoxious about their popularity to being whiny permavictims. Different but just as insufferable.
>>151113124Because he's probably dead
>>151113128As opposed to the creator shaking and crying?
>>151113147Like I said, some creators are stupid and unreasonable about shipping. Pitching a fit over it and wibbling about how you have to leave the fandom now because of it is pathetic.
I hope Lute beats Vaggie up some more
>>151112949Nobody needed earth backstoriesNobody needed human designs
>>151113209>Nobody needed earth backstoriesKinda did if they wanted the whole redemption thing to work. We need to know what these guys did wrong.
>>151112949Angel reason for going to hell better not be a weak ass reason.
>>151113227He was in the mob
>>151113209How they got to Hell is important and illustrates who has potential to be redeemed and who really doesn't. Alastor redemption fans will be crying soon.
>>151095137Fixing Lute through the power of impregnation, hand holding, unconditional love, growing old together and mating pressing.
>>151095137The Flesh is Weak LuteWEAK!
>>151113275I don't think even Alastor wants redemption. He's going to take one look at Pentious and say fuck no.
>>151095361My top guesses is either charlie x alastor or lute x adam.We know its not valentino x angel since she even jokes about it even though most of the fandom would hate it and I can't think of any other ship that would cause this reaction.
>>151113323>lute x adam.She fucking loves Lute/Adam lol
>>151102059Why is his halo wiggly?
>>151103609I like the subtle implication that Valentino abusing the angels is so twisted that only he would think about it implying that Adam never abused his angels.
>>151113338Got bonked on the head
I'm impressed that they managed to release the second season only a year after the first. Were both are them completed around the same time? I assume season 3+4 are still in the works, but I haven't looked into it- anyone more knowledgeable on the progress for that?
>>151113302Shut your not face brain ghost Ferrus, you are not friend
>>151113386More like a year-and-a-half.>I assume season 3+4 are still in the works, but I haven't looked into it- anyone more knowledgeable on the progress for that?They already finished recording for s3 a few months ago and are doing s4.
>>151113147Damn, you Charalstor shippers really are the biggest fucking pussies
>>151113336While the story isn't subtle at all about their relationship my guess is that she hates that people like toxic supremacists together and that we're supposed to be glad they won't be together because they are le bad, atleast that's the only reasoning i can think off from her pov.
>>151113051He's gay
>>151113398>Adamn is a Skull ghost>A Skost
>>151112989>Lute is Eve.Then why did Lucifer and lute didn't had any exchange that would imply that.
>>151113439>my guess is that she hates that people like toxic supremacists together and that we're supposed to be glad they won't be together because they are le bad,No man she likes it. She retweets and likes fanart of it all the time.
>>151108147Just Red Earth? They have more comforts that a normal jail cell on earth. They have fucking smart phones and music concerts.
How Cain is going to be introduced into hazbin hotel>Charlie and Vaggie go searching for a magic artifact said to contain great power within>Find large stone box with marking on it>They open boxhttps://youtu.be/-ZRBu4MIZAM?si=PfQs36j4kulmjZao
>>151113400Thanks, I assume 3+4 will take a few more years in comparison then if they haven't started on visual production yet. Roughly 3 or so at best?
>>151113386Having a pro studio does speed up things a lot, however i would say they cut corners and the overall quality that was already relatively low last season is even lower now, the animation is a lot stiffer and simpler in most scenes and if you pay attention they even have the one punch man png slide animation on Sera during her song.It doesn't look necessarily bad but atleast to me it was noticable that the animation is worse than the last season.
>>151113460My mistake then.
>>151113230So was moxxie.
>>151113556Moxxie's not a sinner...
>>151113564The point is that his backstory was pretty weak, so being in the mafia doesn't necessarily mean angel backstory will be good.
>>151112989>Lute is eve>Lucifer implied that he fucked eve when he fought Adam Oh i hate that.
Lute's not Eve but she was built to be Adam's third wife and he was like I'm not fucking going through that for the third time so they put her in the exorcists
>>151103915retard doesn't Lilith rape him in many myths
>>151113674I think Lute was built to be a sinner killer and unknowingly was redirected to the role of being Adam’s third wife. If you compare her to Adam, Lilith, and Eve, she’s a lot smaller than them and has inhuman traits like her snake eyes.
>>151114116doesn't lilith have snake eyes
>>151114137Lilith’s form is corrupted, just like Eve.
>>151095137Im seeing Hazbin Hotel ads during NFL games nice
>>151103915>Pentious made it there because he THOUGHT he was a horrible person for not speaking up about jack the ripperHe didn't THINK he was a bad person, he WAS a bad person for not speaking up.Do people just not understand that not doing the right thing IS A SIN.It doesn't matter if you have reasons like the guy is powerful and could threaten you, allowing evil to fester and go on to commit more evil is worth damnation.
>>151109024I'm a little embarrassed by how fixated I am on her. No wonder the Vee's targeted her, she's just too pretty.
>>151114352Superbowl commercial WHEN (the superbowl)
>>151103915I don't think guys like Valentino felt bad about himself when he died.>>151114398Yeah this, pentious isn't inherently evil but he did sin in allowing jack to keep killing when speaking up could have prevent it.
>>151114398I've seen too many people say he didn't do anything wrong and it's worrying
>>151114572Yeah, the sheer number of people I keep seeing say he shouldn't have gone to Hell for that, and that its perfectly understandable to not tell the police because it could put you in danger, its very disheartening.
>>151109024If she doesn't come back she's going to be like the Boba Fett of Hazbin Hotel methinks ... old skool Boba Fett that is to you Zoomie retards.PROTIP: Character that barely said a word and was badass and beloved until they fucked it up later, (which is probably what Viv will do somehow, some way I suspect).
>>151109165Why doesn't Charlie just shoot the not nice angel lady with her demon lazer? She could shoot the bad TV man too and it would fix everything then.
>>151114914Common, it's Charlie. The only reason Adam died was because Niffty is a murderhobo.
>>151114572I had a feeling that was gonna happen. They really didn't add much to his backstory and people just ate it up.
>>151114942It’s cause that little chick is controlled by her sins. Exactly how Adam saw them.
Has anyone here ever heard of the song “Americas Suitehearts”.
Finding rare fanart of background characters is like taking a hit of crack cocaine.
>>151108274End of the season, Sinner-Adam is going to be revealed to have been crashing on Cain's couch the entire time. Lute, if she's still alive, is going to lose her shit that he made 0 effort to contact her.
Please let clean-shaven Alastor be real, please let clean-shaven Alastor be real
>>151115239He wont be, you're gonna get that Sammy Davis lookin' motherfucker
>>151115141He is cute. Does Vox hire inanimate object sinners like himself?
>>151095137She deserved for being a woman in the Bible women are always second to men and she tried to usurp her position from Abel
If Lucifer created the Goetia (and if Goetia are the native hellborn of Pride) then why doesn't Charlie try to stop them oppressing the imps and other hellborn? You'd think she'd have a lot of power and influence there, moreso than with the Sinners. Does she just not care about dirty hellborns?
>>151115451Because imp lives don't matter.
>>151108274>>151108156I don’t think Adam is unaware of Lute’s (and his own) feelings, but he is ultimately in this issue of dealing with his evil Wife that badly wants to ruin Lucifer’s life for giving her the Apple and remain on the beach to pretend she’s still in Eden. If Lute connected to Adam back then, Eve would be trying to make this big master plan on ruining Lute’s life too.As petty as this villain is, she is still super evil.
>Heaven lacks Eden as a location>Stolas’ prophecy reveals that heaven and hell shall pass away>A new heaven must be created
What would happen if the bad radio man and the bad TV man did team up just to kill the canibal lady who is helping Charlie with her song but they didn't tell her Dad so he couldn't save her then the bad angel was still alive? What would happen then? Would Charlie go to heaven and then see the snake man again? Why wouldn't they not do this?
>>151095137I need to kiss her
I find it bogus that no one in the history of hell happened to repent then get killed by an exorcist befire Pentious
>>151113209pentious trying to shoot himself was easily the best moment in the entire series
>>151112949where is this from?
>>151112949This sounds like a fake leak created based on real leaks
>>151115451imps were created by satan she would need to talk to satan
>>151116528>>151116613I saw the same Reddit post so likely fake but they were able to access the 2nd episode nearly 4 months ago and said they also saw the first 10 min of episode 4 so who knows
>>151116841>they also saw the first 10 min of episode 4 so who knowsThe 10minutes of ep4 were fully leaked. A lot of people saw it, myself includedSo they're making shit up based on leaks everyone had their hands on
>>151116841Also, same with 2nd episode. We got most of it leaked ages ago.
>>151116882>>151116888Ah, I haven’t been following closely so that’s news to me
whose got the biggest ass again
Now that its ckear Lucifer isn't dying...That storyboard image we got with Vix staring down at a hand and blood, was it a fake leak, or someone else's hand?
>>151103915>and in all honesty if anyone is evil in the myths it's Adam. He tries to rape Lilith in most tellings of this storyAdam demands to be on top, but most of the stories do not have him raping Lilith.They do however have Lilith:-Raping Adam-Murdering childrenAnd in a less common version:-Raping and impregnating Eve
>>151117100>impregnating Evehow does lilith do that when they're both women?
>>151117100>Lilith enfutas herself to rape Eve.I don't remember reading that in the Bible.
>Woke up not to long ago.>Somehow in the actual show as a human.>Able to use magic to cross into Hell.>I used this to go to the hotel and speak to Charlie, and basically told her that what she's done has put Lute on the warpath and she's gonna murderize her to death.>Also told her she's kind of whiny.>She asked how I know who she is and how I got here. I pull up 4chan on my phone and take a selfie with her to start a thread.>Everyone wants to see her ass.>Or Vaggies ass.>Or Angels tits.>Everyone but Angel hates the attention.>Niffty steals my phone.That's what I get for sleeping with the thread open.
>>151117175I had a dream where I just did a bunch of M in a hotel with the Vs recently
>>151117175lolandHi Angel Dust!
>>151095361Emily x Pentious? No, I don't think so.
>>151110552This pentagram can be more than punishment. It can be a promise of something... greater for humanity. Our sins are an ingredient for a fuel of a magnificent rocket that will take our damned souls towards greater heights of enlightenment.What is Ars Goetia? A society of creatures not knowing true meaning of passion, joy or mortality. A society of animals ready to be put on a leash. With all those souls under my reign...Give me 20 years and I'll reignite the fighting spirits of our fellow sinners. 50 years and I'll have our people rule the infernal. 100 years and our souls will be heading for the Pearly Gates. Unbound by the follies and failings of our bygone, mortal selves.
>>151109721He talked about banging a Cherub in the first episode.Also, all the exorcists are girls and seem to be pretty into him.
>>151111115>>151111128>>151111150>>151111854Wait, so does this make Charlie and Abel siblings then, if Eve is the mother of both?
>>151117249He kept ban evading because no one could figure out hell's IP and kept posting his titties in the thread. Right after he posted his giant dick a mod moved it to /aco/.Apparently in Hell you become a cartoon as well.
>>151113051He’s the first murder victim so he is / is seen as pathetic
>>151113051He was a child who tended his sheep. The only time he got his hands bloody was when sacrificing his livestock to God. Cain worked the fields every day, from sunrise to sunset. He toiled to keep them free if disease and parasite and insect, and offered a great bounty to God. Abel will never be the man Cain or Adam were.
>>151109677They probably banged and we see them hanging around casually, it's just that Adam probably wouldn't settle down.
