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Well, does it?
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>now
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>>151096032
Has for a decade and a half
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>>151096032
SP is one of the few shows that I believe would improve if the creators took a step back and stopped writing the scripts. Matt and Trey are too out of touch with the world at this point compared to the early days.
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>>151096032
>let's address the wave of criticism we've justifiably gotten for taking the corporate bag
>let's also be obviously butthurt and seethy about it so everyone will know we're totally not bothered by it
Jews in charge of PR
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>>151096032
It was never good
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>>151096141
But that's their last defense. If they stop working and the show sucks, people will say the show fell off
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South Park was always about beating everyone to the low-hanging jokes first for current events. Social media has made it so that everyone has heard the jokes already, that by the time South Park does it, it seems derivative.
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>>151097136
Plus everyone is hyper butthurt.
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>>151096032
Last season had reddit seething. Idk about this new one though
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>>151096032
The show is almost 30 years old it needs to rest but it won't be allowed and there is no way it can have a dignified death now.
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It’s almost zombie Simpsons tier.
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>>151097690
>almost
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>>151097641
paramount now co-owns the IP so the slop will never end. can't wait for the first AI season
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>>151096032
teen titans go tried this method of deflection
didn't work
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>>151098212
People will defend this just because it's South Park
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i think it's pretty funny this season, then again I'm not in some retarded political cult
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>>151097690
Broke out of zombie tier this season. Views are through the roof and episodes are promoting heros to go out there and change the world
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>>151098625
It's in Zombie tier, dude. They admit the show sucks now
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This is one of the better seasons they have done in a while, but yeah it became zombie like 15-20 years ago.
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>>151098212
I was literally thinking the same. TTG also tried using a child from a third world country as a shield
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Sometimes I wish Drawn Together or Boondocks were given more seasons, or had revivals of some sorts, then I remember the state of current adult comedies and breathe a sign of relief. Plus DT movies and TB S4 sucked ass
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>>151097136
Not always. The show started as a surreal vision on americana as a whole.
The pop culture and current event references got more prominent as the years went by.
In fact, when the show made the switch to spoofing current events, is when the quality took a nosedive.
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I don't know when the downfall started, but I know for a fact season 20 is when we reached the point of no return
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>>151096032
I stopped watching the show ever since the garrison = trump season (don't remember which one it is don't care). It was so dogshit that I never gave the show a second chance. Doubt I'm missing much.
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>>151096032
Yes.
>>151097136
The show was a surreal comedy with a bunch of references to pop culture inspired by Matt and Trey's childhoods in the first few seasons.
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>>151096058
/Thread
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Any show that last more than 10 years always drops off in quality
>family guy
>american dad
>simpsons
>south park
None of these shows should have gone past 10 years
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>>151096032
As a long time fan yeah it does
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>>151096032
Genuinely yes.
They are actively turning away from what everyone wanted, the boys being boys, and are tripling down on which is out of touch commentary.
The fact they went with trump jokes again is just pathetic. Not even American so dont care, but it automatically makes half the nation against you. Maybe more, didnt he get the popular vote? Whatever, still not good, especially since last time it also flopped when they did it.
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It's okay, the thing is just has been done to death. In general people are just exhausted of it, nothing new can be done with the characters, every scenario already been proposed. even when things are okay is not existing or special, is just more of the same and they can't do anything new because the fans would hate that too.

They been saying south park sucks since tegrity farms, tegrity farms also sucked because while it was different, it was just more south park. The best they can do now is just get overly political people angry, and you can make that happen by just posting a picture of the current president and trowing a random slur at him.

Things in general all suck now btw, is not just south park. and trust me, it only gets worse from here. we are at verge of the abyss. staring at it and waiting to be devoured by the endless night. I just hope you have someone warm to cuddle while you fall, is going to be a long one.
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>>151096141
Then maybe it could just end instead
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>>151096032
Going after Trump is grasping enough, but its a real embarrassing look when even nuManiacs did it better than sooner than you.
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>>151097136
That's the sad truth ain't? Modern South Park is just /co/... reposts of twitter and reddit material.... except they're even slower at it.
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>>151098212
it did for getting bills payed, they are still making new episodes
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>>151098212
>>151099942
>first episode April 23, 2013
>currently airing and on Season 10
>they got renewed for 2 more seasons
>is now officially CN's longest running program

They are doing something right, whatever that is.
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>>151096107
This. I remember how much ass Family Guy started to suck way back in the early 2010's and I felt that South Park was going in a similar direction. Even as a kid I began to notice
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>>151096032
its sucked since chef died and they tried to replace him with the other adults. except that the other adults are crazier than the kids. gerald is almost as bad as cartman
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>>151096032
Im gonna try and avoid all the inevitable political shit flinging and give my two cents that serialization and the shoe becoming whatever hot take of the week trey and matt have has ruined south park. Even if i agree with their beliefs sometimes it still isnt funny anymore
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>>151103022
You should look over to what was being reply from
>>151098212

The argument had nothing to do with quality, just what works.
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>>151103095
>The argument had nothing to do with quality, just what works.
That's the same thing
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>>151103098
Nta but the TTG spam killed all interest in CN outside of whatever retards are watching it
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>>151103091
I don't even think their is much real care about the politics. I think that's just being used to pump up as an excuse if South Park full on fails.

To broaden your point the shows failures to get engagement is how much harder it is to be truly scandalous, Matt and Trey of 2001 would have shat all over vaccines and lockdowns when given those two episode specials, if only for how much of a controversy that would spark. Now they just toe the line and I feel that breaks the magic of what made them special.
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>>151103099
They are not, quality is the standard of something as measured against other things of a similar kind, the degree of excellence.

Something can work and be of bad quality.


>>151103108
The fact people would rather talk about TTGs tells you all you need to know about South Park's state of affairs.
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>>151102188
Literally the first episode of season 7 had them point out that a show should never go past 100 episodes
They should've listened to themselves
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>>151103242
Complacency.
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>>151103285
Let's just say Paramount's pitch moved them...
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>>151103238
>Name one

/co/ related:
Hollywood. Thing is still functioning in spite of how bad it's been operating the last 15 years of it's time.
Cartoon Network as noted already

non-/co/ related:
Governments in general
4chan in general

Again, quality is it being done well, you can have great success and be awful at it.

>>151103242
A few things, two mentioned here >>151103285
>>151103289

Other factors can just be captive audience and/or executives where you are now making so much money or fame that you worry about making mistakes and in turn will make mistakes because of that. Could just be shifting times as >>151097136 noted where in a world where X and Facebook are basically what 4chan was in 2007 and 4chan is basically what reddit was in 2007 it leads to the evidence that South Park just can't work in the modern cultures.
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>>151102985
>>151102995
Well let's look at those ratings
>losing to reruns of fucking Gumball
So how's the network
>Lost another hour to Adult Swim

So....what are they doing right?
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>>151102161
>It used to be about a bunch of kids reacting to weird shit happening in their small town
Yeah for like...a couple of episodes
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>>151103382
That's what we are trying to figure out anon. They keep getting renewed. I think that was the OG point missed here.

Perhaps it's how pervasive they are as this thread was about South Park but noting TTG still exists keeps you focused on them rather than going "wait, why do I care about TTGs?" and to then get back to South Park or go to another thread.
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>>151103392
South Park was a mix of commentary and kid shenanigans. Now they're leaning too much into 1 corner
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>>151103382
Funny enough the last 3 seasons of TTG was cooling off on mocking the audience so perhaps this tactic does keep ratings up?
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>>151102995
fun note, the season that had what >>151098212shared was ten years ago in 2015 from season 2 so not only did it work and get the show 8 more seasons it has stayed in some anon's mind this long.

I'm starting to see why "rent free" became a meme.
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>>151103437
And Trump lives rent-free in their heads
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>remember something that happened in the past
>"RENT FREE! RENT FREE!!!"
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>>151103327
I meant, name one thing in an actual cartoon
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>>151098212
>>151102985
>>151103437
TTG completely de-legitimized Mr. Enter and other similar youtube rantslop merchants to the point where they are totally irrelevant now. It won.

Sure, those episodes did nothing to endear them to the court of internet opinion, but that has never mattered since most people in the cartoon cancer (((community))) just pirate all their shit anyway.
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>>151096032

it does, and has for some time now. the current TDS Matt and Trey are suffering from certainty is not helping things.
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It was funny until it made fun of Trump and my political beliefs
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>>151103935
I cant imagine watching this fat retard slowly read off articles, you must be mentally challenged.
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>>151096032
It’s just the daily show now. So if you like people just making jokes about the right than calling you stupid for not agreeing with everything they say then, yes. That’s literally this episode. Stan says he’s tired of politics and they make fun of real criticism fans have made about this show and just go deeper and harder into trump sucks right bad. I honestly only caught this episode because I was waiting for Beavis and butthead.
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>>151102188
American dad still puts out some occasional kino episodes but overall its quality has gone down. Not bad, just not good.
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>>151096032
No
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>>151096734
>get blown the fuck out by normies
it's over, isn't it
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>>151103818
>TTG completely de-legitimized Mr. Enter and other similar youtube rantslop merchants to the point where they are totally irrelevant now. It won.
That's like saying you beat a horde of hogs in a mud-slinging contest by getting naked and rolling around in it. Everyone already treats internet cartoon reviewers like the clowns they are. Caring about the stupid opinions of a bunch of mouth-breathing autistic neckbeards so hard you felt the need to clap back is just beyond pathetic.
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>>151105077
I can make better Trump jokes for free
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>>151105733
go do it then
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>>151105770
Treat him like a normal dude and watch the left lose their minds
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>>151106452
I'm still waiting for the trump joke
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>>151107565
WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH TRUMP JOKES? THEY DON'T TRUMP ANYTHING, AND THEY AREN'T JOKES!
WHO PLAYS TRUMPS ANYMORE ANYWAY? IT'S ALL ABOUT E-POKER NOW!
E-POKER? I HARDLY E-KNOW 'ER!
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>>151107643
Terrible. Take a lap
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>>151107743
I was going off what happened to Jimmy Fallon. Apparently, treating Trump as anything less as Hitler is a crime
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Well /co/?
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>>151096032
While it's not as good as peak-SP, watching this season and going back and rewatching the last few it's actually pretty good. Certainly better than a lot of people were complaining. While I do wish they'd add a little more variety to the Trump parodies, some of it's been pretty fucking funny.
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>>151096032
I liked South Park far into the era where they had gotten really into doing that but something was lost when South Park became more of a FOTM discussion than a show about 4 naive kids doing shocking things
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>>151108460
Nobody cares what this wannabe cunt has to say. He traced pictures of actual toddlers in order to make diaper fur content.
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>>151108422
both are cool dudes
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>>151104081
American Dad held up very well by actually managing to pull off a comedy style switch from political humor to more general zany character dynamic antics
It started having some stinker by the time the overwatch episode rolled around but it's held up far better than the others even if I prefer the humor of the early seasons
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He became everything that he hated. A fat smug Californian hippie that resembles Phil Collins.
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>>151108576
That's the ultimate burn to Trey
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>>151100337
>>151099987
Uh oh we got some pseud morons who think South Park was deep. SP has always been mean spirited jokes aimed at the little guy or whoever is in the news

People are just mad it's their guy getting roasted, it's not deeper than that.
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>>151108576
Except ye know Phil Collins can actually sing unlike Trey.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt2mbGP6vFI&list=RDEM6XM-6jWhdv18geUXpFC-Tg&start_radio=1

And if you want the exact voice Trey Parker has, but GOOD then here you go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCkJ5lGPqFs&list=RDDCkJ5lGPqFs&start_radio=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y380bkHlye8&list=RDY380bkHlye8&start_radio=1

Trey's voice by comparison:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvk-aPm5p-4&list=RDxvk-aPm5p-4&start_radio=1
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>>151096032
South Park was never good
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>tegridy
>drumpf
>member
It has sucked for a while. I remember the first time I really noticed it was that toilet episode where clydes mom died because the toilet seat got left up
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>>151096032
>NOW
always has
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It stopped being good when it stopped being about kids doing kid things and reacting to stuff like kids would. So about season 6.
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>>151108543
You'd think that, but I've ran into so many people who still unironically follow him and repost his shit regardless. It's almost as if those "people" don't really mind such behavior.



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