What are Dick's flaws?And no, getting too much pussy isn't a character flaw.
>>151102490He's a complicated character. He acts very differently depending on the situation.
>>151102490Try reading the comics.
he has nice butt XD
>>151102490Nothing, that's kind of his point. He's the perfect replacement for batman and none of the other robins can live up to him. They can specialize into one thing like Jason being the strongest and Tim being the smartest, but Dick is the best all around and always will be.
>>151102490he’s susceptible to rape by attractive horny women
>>151102692Dick riders are so tiresome
>>151102710I'd like to like Jason more but he hasn't developed at all as a character in 20 years and Tim has been changed into a pathetic mess compared to what he used to be
>>151102490>What are Dick's flaws?He's boring. Everyone in the Batfamily is more interesting than him.
Dick being a Mary Sue kind of falls apart when he gets beaten up or captured more than most characters.
>>151102737Tim was kind of always shit. He just got a pass and fans because he was the modern Robin. That was it. Once he wasn't that anymore he didn't have anything else because he was such a hollow character.
>>151102692>They can specialize into one thing like Jason being the strongestAre we talking about the same Jason Todd that outsmarted Batman many times?, he isn't Batman because he doesn't need it.
>>151102769He was the one that made Robin cool again, but that was pretty much stripped from him once he was no longer the main robin
>>151102786Yet he always ends up regressing back into the same hot headed retard at some point
>>151102490>weird mix of having an ego that reaches all the way to outright arrogance while simultaneously being insecure when compared to Bruce>having really high standards towards himself and not allowing himself grace if he feels like he fails to reach them>bottling up his own emotional problems and then lashing out at others when he can’t handle it anymore>in general a vicious temper when challenged or feeling slighted, will use your deepest insecurities and problems against you
>>151102490>getting too much pussy isn't a character flawWhy is that? This soap opera shit makes him look gay.
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>>151103198Imagine being escrimo brother with Joker. Dick may as well neck himself.
>>151103198Timm really has the worst taste in ships.
>>151103595I think you meant based taste. The only superior ship would be bruce x harley
>>151103107Correct, Dick is a nice and pleasant guy when things are going right but the moment the stress piles on he turns into a vicious cunt blaming everyone else.
>>151102490He’s too sacred to adult and start a family. All his peers have gotten married and/or had kids. Dick is afraid of commitment.Probably because evil Raven attacked his and Starfire’s wedding, killing the pastor and raping Starfire in front of everyone.
>>151102705And terrible, mind scarring sexual harassment by those like Flamebird and Duela Dent commenting on his ass and legs. They are just as bad, if not worse than Tarantula, for they are supposed to be HEROES and would clearly jump him if they had the opportunity.
>>151102490She’s so goddamn astroturfed
Insomniac Miles specifically is one of the biggest Mary Sues I've seen in a long time>teenage tech genius>implied to be smarter than Peter>has more powers than Peter>has an infinite amount of talents, includng sign language>has zero (0) enemies that actually want to hurt him
>>151104137It's hilarious how much marvel has started glazing her in the last few years.
>>151103107You really only see him get cruel a couple of times, with his closest friends. When has he gone full Dick against anyone besides Donna, Roy, or Wally?
>>151103941Arguably earlier than that.>There was that olympic figure skater he tried to date in high school.>Then he was stalked by Roberta the Girl Wonder.>Bette Kane Bat-Girl/Flamebird has been obsessed with him for just as long.>He loses his virginity at 16 to a grown woman trying to groom him for her karate gang lord boyfriend.>His first college girlfriend was a psychic, who left him.>His second college girlfriend, the serious one, dumped him for her abusive ex.>His third maybe-girlfriend was a literal clown.>He spent most of his childhood friend-zoned by Batgirl, who only let him hit years later once she was crippled and without other options.>He finally found true love with Starfire and she cucked him, married a prince, and asked him to stay on as her concubine.This was all before he turned 20.He's faked marriages for cases. He's been sexually assaulted by friends and teammates. He's had relations with gorillas, neanderthals, aliens, and more. He's captain save-a-hoe, trying to fuck the evil out of the criminal cuties. DC could make a whole Scott Pilgrim style narrative about Dick Grayson's failed relationships.
>>151102490>What are Dick's flaws?not being in my bed
>>151105548Midnighter pls
>>151105523Not to mention the psychic was supposedly Lilith's cousin, before Wolfman's retcon of Lilith's real mom being Thia made that complicated (unless Thia had a thing for having kids in that family line)
>>151102490Dicks biggest flaw is always going to be, being the first Robin. No matter what you do with him Dick, people will always find the other robins to do something better at than Dick. Tim smarter the detective, Jason the closer the ends always justify the means won’t back down, Damien the beat martial artist clearly will be the best fighter in the end. Stephane having the best tits like god damn those knockers almost made Tim straight.
>>151102764He was also raped twice.
>>151102490He doesn’t have an R on his chest.
>>151106042...five times
>>151102692>He's the perfect replacement for batmanIE he's boring. Jason and Damian would be much more interesting replacements while keeping the dark and gritty appeal that most prefer Batman to have.
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>>151106248Damien is a child, and Jason used guns and will kill. They’d be terrible Batmen. Nightwing as Batman having an edgy series Batman was actually a fun twist.
>>151103941>He’s too sacred to adult and start a family. All his peers have gotten married and/or had kids. Dick is afraid of commitment.Imagine.
>>151106361You don't have to tell me twice.
>>151106341>Damien is a childNo shit, autist. Talking bout the future, where he IS Batman.>Jason used guns and will killSo has Bruce. Movie Batmen, the most popular Batmen, have killed and nobody but dorks bitched. The Avengers killed and nobody cared.
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>>151105330A few time is a pattern and you can add Jason, who he never was close with.
>>151104165That's because you're racist anon. I think you need some more re-education on blacks and see how much they've suffered.
>>151106388>Damien is a childNo shit, autist. Talking bout the future, where he IS Batman.Eh I prefer Terry, Damien is just I’m super serious Batman I’ve trained longer and harder than my father! He’s dull in comparison.
>>151105330Dick threatens Supes with kryptonite in Outsiders and tells him to not interfere with his plans at one point.When Bruce tells him he's dropping the Bruce Wayne name/persona Dick loses his shit and attacks him because he felt offended due to having just been adopted.He lost his shit on Danny Chase after Jason was killed, due to Danny making a smart remark about Jason having not been careful.During the whole Born Again ripoff he told Babs to fuck off and that if she didn't he would get rid of the elevator in his apartment building.
>>151105330>>151106705Also he's a big asshole to Bette Kane for no reason other than being kinda annoyed by her lmao.
>>151105330One of my favorite asshole Dick moments is in Tomasi's Nightwing where he doesn't give a fuck if Harvey is mentally ill, he hates both sides of him and at one point basically yells at him for being mentally ill.
>>151102490Isn't he a huge jobber that gets raped by women every day and also he'll never escape Batman's shadow? Nightwing is nothing but flaws.
>>151107104>gets raped every day and also he'll never escape Batman's shadow?no that's jason
>>151104137hated how she's treated but love that design
>>151102490Overtly trusting and can be too eager to be friendly, a bit of an arrogant daredevil, is too self sacrificing, etc
>>151107151Jason wishes he could get some pussy for once.
>>151107234i didn't say women
>>151102490Everyone wants to rape him
>>151105548Kory...
>>151107164agreed honestly it kicks assbut she’s such a shitty character I wish almost anyone else had it
>>151106572What did Dick ever say to Jason that wasn't true and justified?
>>151104165He's boring as shit, contributed nothing to the story, and they had to shit on Peter just to justify Miles having anything to do
>>151106705>SupesThat was Dick doing his best Batman impression, he wasn't going for Clark's soul>BruceCalling Bruce a hypocrite for abandoning his life, when he'd forced Dick go fix his shit a year or two earlier in Nightwing: The Target>Danny ChaseThis could count, but it's not on the same level as when he tore into the others.>BabsThis literally never happened.
>>151105548tarantula....
>>151102490>And no, getting too much pussy isn't a character flaw.According to Batman it is.
>>151105548Devin.
>>151106585That's another thing. Like they can't seem to decide if they want Miles to be The Black Guy or the The Latino Guy. I really think they regret having his mom be hispanic.
>>151102490Mary the Sue?
>>151106753Inb4 that one /co/mblr Bette hater says it's justified because her objectifying comments about his butt were literally rape and her fans can't recognize she's at the same level of Catalina.Yes, there was a whole essay about how Bette is Dick's most hated individual and "for good reason" with these receipts of her talking about his ass for how she's a predator.
>>151110588Marry the Sue.
>>151110940>the most predatory woman in Dick's life is a woman who had a crush on him when she was 14 and hasn't seen or spoken to him in years despite being a part of his extended family
>>151102490He is supposed to be a better version of Batman and a better man than Bruce could ever be. That is why he managed to overcome his trauma, leave Gotham behind, gain true allies, become a trusted leader and just lead a more meaningful and happy life. He is Bruce's greatest triumph, a living testament that what he does as Batman brings about positive change in the world.Call him Mary Sue or Gary Stu or whatever you want; that is exactly what the character was originally designed to be. He is like Superman but much cooler and without the super powers.Btw, the Jason Todd thread that is currently up mogs this one to oblivion. Just saying
>>151102639Go on, anon... I'm a visual learner
>>151112303>He is supposed to be a better version of Batman and a better man than Bruce could ever be. That is why he managed to overcome his trauma, leave Gotham behind, gain true allies, become a trusted leader and just lead a more meaningful and happy life. He is Bruce's greatest triumph, a living testament that what he does as Batman brings about positive change in the world.And that's why the Jason Todd thread mogs this one. Nobody likes a character who constantly get his balls washed by other characters, and being told what good boi he is, only to come short when it comes to providing good comics. The only character similar to Dick in this situation is Hal Jordan, but Hal Jordan actually makes due on being the greatest Green Lantern of all time because he's back up by his feats.
>>151102490He'd need to have sue attributes to justify defending him from accusations. Being hot and charming isn't an implausible combination of characteristics.
>>151108371>This literally never happened.Opinion discarded
>>151109613No, they very clearly lean into the black thing more than the latino thing.
he was raped three times, he tortured heads of state in the outsiders, he let 100k people die in bludhaven, he cheated on his fiancee
He smoked weed in the 70s.
>>151102490He's cocky and a little too sure of himself. He's consistently been written this way for over 3 decades.
>>151106341>>151106388>>151106601Isn't the point where Dick being a lighthearted batman and Damien being an edgy, brooding Robin the point of that arc?
>>151113660>he let 100k people die in bludhavenI don’t think he could’ve saved 100k people anonIn fact the issue where he tried showed another flaw of his in that he kept trying to ie he has basically no self preservation. Supes had to come save his ass because he was starting to get affected by radiation.
>>151113732he still failed, bruce prevents gotham from being nuked once a month
>>151113768Not really, that place sucks balls no matter what Bruce does.
The whole point is that Batman was able to save him early from going down a destructive path and allowed him to deal with the deal of his parents in a constructive way where he grew up to be a well adjusted person.
He's not well adjusted. He beat the Joker to death.
>>151113916Any well adjusted person would do that.If anything it helps prove Bruce ain’t well adjusted because he did CPR on the fucker.
>>151113916He's been around for over 80 years. So he is going to have some mold breaking stories.
>>151114127He was an uptight stick-in-the-mud team leader in the 60s, a rebellious weed smoker in the 70s, a college drop out in the 80s, a rape victim in the 90s, raped two more times, killed joker, failed to prevent 100k deaths, formed a black ops team and tortured foreign politicians and cheated on his fiancee in the 00s, was clinically dead after getting an electric shock and then suffered amnesia after a bullet to the skull in the 10s. The only mold breaking here is Tom Taylor writing him as a perfect puppy.
>>151106915I miss when Dick had his own opinion on Batvillains separate from Bruce. He hated the FUCK out of Harvey and Talia.
>>151113853If Bruce spent all his billions actually fighting poverty then the fucking freakshows like Joker wouldn't have any goons to do their shit.
>>151114837He does spend his billions fighting poverty, secondary kun.
>>151114945Is he still a billionaire?
>>151102692What does Damian specialize in?
>>151114987Well according to Williamson he's the heart now
>>151114987Unironically autism, he's like Bruce in that way, he's stubborn and cares way too much.
>>151114987Sword I guess?
>>151114987Having the right DNA to be shoved into everything despite being a mediocre character.
>>151102490>dick>gay sonHe rubbed the batarang too many times, and it wasn't his.
>>151114987getting cucked by a pink-haired asian
>>151114956Maybe? He lost his money for a few years with Lucius taking over but I think he has a smaller mansion now?
>>151114543>He hated the FUCK out of Harvey and Talia.Dick used to like Talia. The used to be friendly. This only changed during the Morrison era, after the Society had nuked his city to ash.
>>151102605Where's the flaw
>>151102692That's boring
>>151114987Being Batman's biological son
>>151113344You don't get it, my point was he deserves all the adoration he gets. He is a success story which is rare for comics in general and even rarer for Batman comics specifically. Jason Todd is a cool character but they butchered him due to lack of direction and should just put him back in the ground at this point
