What is their legacy?
FaithShe's not even a bad character aside from her solo series
>>151114401The Shadow Man videogame remaster.
Being ruined by corporate greed twice when it only happens to most companies once
Persistence.
>>151114401Nintendo comicsMost successful revision of the Gold Key charactersPre-Unity stuff (X-O Manowar, Harbinger, Archer and Armstrong, etc)Turok #1DeathmateTurok 64Quantum and WoodyBeing ruined by corporate greed twice when it only happens to most companies once
Man, I miss reading these regularly. It was so perfect, they had like 5 comics running a month, so you could easily keep up with all the stories, and there were real shake ups and changes going on all the time. Even characters like Faith were great in the beginning and while I preferred her in her ensemble works, people forget her solo series were tonally on par with Quantum and Woody and Archer and Armstrong rather than the more serious things.
>>151114401Trash
>>151116393But enough about yourself
>>151114401You tell me
>>151114401Every couple years they try to come back and be a thing but it never sticks.
>>151114906And it's really funny how it happened TWICE.
>>151114401Can we have their legacy now?
>>151114401Yes they got deliberately fucked over, but they would have gone bust after '92 anyway.Their characters simply aren't interesting, they were decades behind the times. Marvel and DC were decades behind the times but they atleast had the loyalty boomers on their side. Valiant had no loyalty.It's like if someone tried inventing a new radio today, nobody cares about the radio.
>>151114401They're just a pathetic knockoff company trying to force horribly juvenile and poorly conceived characters into the cultural canon. Truly, pushing a giant rock up a hill. It's an asinine and pointless exercise.
>>151114401Who
The only Valiant I care for
>>151119649so 2010's
>>151121790Said nobody.
>>151123236considering it was a pigeon that has actual medals and is well known by most people who are interested in world war, id say lots of people cared
>>151114473Nah, she fat.
>>151120570>>They're just a pathetic knockoff company trying to force horribly juvenile and poorly conceived characters into the cultural canon. That’s every comic book company ever. None would have any relevance now if not for early successful adaptations cementing them in the culture. Valiant should have made some good cartoons and movies.
>>151114401A company that almost killed the industry in the 90's, then came back with some of the best comics of the time only to flush that good will down the toilet. >>151114473I read the solo series. It's on par with most x-men comics between Utopia and Krakoa.
>>151115986>people forget her solo series were tonally on par with Quantum and Woody and Archer and ArmstrongHard disagree. While not the first book to do it (Eternal Warrior), Faith's solo spat in the face of continuity and that took a lot away from it. One of the things about the start of the reboot is that it had fucking tight continuity, and her book lacked that identity. Fuck man, The Earth faction Vine didn't even know who Archer was when they were fighting, and he was their former leader.
>>151114401getting screwed over by corporate greed twice
>>151123275All that comes up is this shitty cartoon movie.
>>151114401Having really cool coloring.
>>151125014he wasnt called valiant irl
>>151114401Likely having the tightest continuity in comics before the reboots.
>>151125061Man we used to have something like that.
So why did valiant finish off the old universe and kill everyone off and reboot into a new universe where it's different and nothing is explained. Fuck at least absolute and ultimate 2.0 explained why things were different
>>151125641What?You wanted an in universe reason for a fucking reboot?
>>151125641Huh? You mean the fisrt or second time they rebooted? Or the third? The current Valiant is self-explanatory, it has a multiverse and we're watching the "ultimate/absolute" version of it. The 2011's Valiant is pretty much on standby.Too bad Woody undied.
>>151125789>>151125949no its more why did they even bother rushing the old universe to its end and introduce this one. after they got bought out, why not just jump straight into this.
>>151125042Great art.
>>151116723Why should I?
>>151114473Why was the only fat thing on her Acclaim version her fat tits?
>>151119649>>151120570t. midwits
>>151123839>It's on par with most x-men comics between Utopia and Krakoaso terrible?
>>151114401what legacy
>>151123931Oh dang, been a while since I read it, so must have missed it. Perhaps the general goofiness made me not notice that stuff.I agree with you then with that, that's terrible, especially with the smaller output they had. I understand Marvel DC not catching a mistake when releasing 100 books each a month, but with only 5 or so a month you'd think they'd catch that. Even worse if they did catch it but didn't want to correct the writer because the book was "important".Also, separate: wow, a Valiant thread that lasted over a day! Joy!
>>151119649I disagree, I think Valiant in general had a better diversity of characters compared to many others.We have a time displaced visigoth with a Blue Beetle type armor that's the source for most of the extra terrestial threats on earth.We have an evil Professor X who is possibly one of the most compelling cape villains I've read.2 comedic duos who conform to the continuity of the more serious stuff around them.Badass with nanomachines that started off mid but after The Valiant became amazing.3 Immortal brothers, one who's immortal with FMA rules by having tons of lives inside of him, one who is kept alive by the Earth itself for the sake of his duty, and one who technically isn't immortal but his time travel gives that impression.It was just such genuinely good ideas and execution. Loved reading it week to week.
>>151114401How did Valiant got it first started as?
>>151114401Shadowman and turok
>>151131501>Valiant Comics is an American comic book publisher, the first incarnation of which was founded in 1989 by former Marvel Comics editor-in-chief Jim Shooter along with lawyer and businessman Steven Massarsky. In 1994, the company was sold to Acclaim Entertainment. After Acclaim’s 2004 bankruptcy, the company’s assets were purchased as part of Valiant Entertainment by entrepreneurs Dinesh Shamdasani and Jason Kothari in 2005.[3][4] In 2011, Valiant received a capital infusion from private investment company Cuneo & Company, LLC. Peter Cuneo and Gavin Cuneo joined the company and a relaunch was announced.[5]>Valiant Entertainment launched its publishing division in 2012 as part of an initiative dubbed the "Summer of Valiant",[6][7] winning Publisher of the Year and being nominated for Book of the Year at the Diamond Gem Awards.[8] Valiant has set sales records,[9] and was the most nominated publisher in comics at the 2014, 2015 and 2016 Harvey Awards,[10][11][12] releasing the biggest-selling independent crossover event of the decade with "Book of Death" in 2015.[13]>Valiant was sold to DMG Entertainment in 2018.[14] In June 2023, Valiant Comics announced a licensing partnership with Alien Books, which would take over publishing Valiant's characters.[15]
>>151131501To badly summarize it from my memory after Marvel got rid of Jim Shooter he co-founded Valiant comics, first Valiant did some license comics for Nintendo and the WWF, but eventually they obtained the rights to some gold key comic characters like Turok and Magnus robot fighter. After some time Shooter was able to make their own original super hero universe with some of the talent he knew from his Marvel days. After some time the company became greedy got rid of Shooter and went all in on the gimmicks of the 90s to appeal to speculator market, when that bubble burst valiant got bought by Aklaim since they had success with the video game adaptation of Valiant comics like Turok dinosaur hunter and Shadowman. But by that point Valiant was a shell of its former self and when Aklaim went bankrupt so did Valiant. Eventually some people bought the rights to Valiant and revived it. The revival started promising but once again corporate greed lead them to make bad decision to bad decision and now their own by the Chinese and are basically on life support.
>>151114401Died with Shooter being ousted from the company. Will never achieve the same heights without him.
Everything about the fall of Valiant is tragic for me. The 2011/2012 Valiant was brilliant, made from the beginning with care and by genuine industry talent. X-O Manowar and Ninjak were big stars along with the Unity crossover comic. The universe was being built from the start to be shared, something that could easily rival Marvel or DC in terms of quality before 2013.And then greed ruined everything.Now I'm having to live off Beyond Valiant, which is mid at best where I'm only enjoying one comic, with no decent X-O Manowar or Ninjak.Living off Big-Two is torture; Image Comics doesn't give me consistency. Valiant was my mainstay in the hobby until DMG ended it all.
>>151114882>>151132349How do we know about it so far?
>>151114401Vin Diesel's disappointing Bloodshot
>>151129821Yes.
