assuming you were a writer on the show, how would you go about fixing stellas character?how would you make her more realistic, what personality pros and cons would you give her?
Redesign everyone. Every character is a stick figure with a red & gray colorscheme and a billion symbols and markings
>>151118007Give her a massive pair of honkers, wide child bearing hips, a nice round bubble butt and a cute slightly chubby tummy.
>>151118007Make her less of a caricature of the cinderella stepmoms and make the situation more gray, focusing on the fact Stella never got any choice in her life and that's what made her this way.
She could ruin me...
>>151116147My only advice to Ficanon is to tread carefully with it and not power creep him too much. So far I think it's fine.
>>151118007fix her? she's the best part of the show just as she is>>151118150 this anon has some good ideas though
>>151118458>My only advice to Ficanon is to tread carefully with it and not power creep him too much.i mean, the way he is describes is ”cool”, but he was unable to kill an imp and a hellhound, so hes not really that powerful when compared to other sinnerssure, he could mess them up, but not outright finish them off
>>151118007I would double down on all of her shittiness because I want to find out how shitty she has to be to make the Stellasimps finally stop simping for her. I want to find the Shitty Event Horizon, in simple terms.
>>151118544making her more evil isn't going to make people want to stop fucking her, you'd have to redesign her to achieve that
The issue with Stella is that the sheer shittiness of everyone else in the show makes her better. Blitzo and Stolas are so insufferably annoying that you side with her because she looks saintly in comparison.I don't want to "make her better". I want to HELP her. I want her to actually win and ruin Stolshit.
>>151118562I'm gonna have her torture Octavia to death while Stolas is bound, gagged, and forced to watch. And Stella will be singing a big elaborate musical number about how she's only doing it to make Stolas suffer, and that she has been looking forward to it ever since Via was hatched. And it won't be a dream or anything, that shit's gonna be canon forever. If that isn't enough, I'll start getting serious about it.
>>151118575I definitely agree with this to some degree. of course, morally I'd still say she's a worse person than any of the "good" guys (literally strangles puppies and giggles about attempted killings, it's not subtle). the difference is Stella is supposed to be evil and hateable, so the writers have a little fun with it and don't paint her as anything more. contrastingly, you're supposed to feel bad for Stolas and Blitzo and get entire episodes of wah wah drama bullshit to paint them as the victims - but morally they're still absolutely awful people in their own right, so it just gets fucking annoying. bottom line, I think "I want Stella to win because Stolas pisses me off" is a completely valid stance on this
>>151118618>I think "I want Stella to win because Stolas pisses me off" is a completely valid stance on thisIt's not even that, it's just "I want Stella to win because she's hot".
>>151118610anon, my point is most Stella simps don't even watch the show. they JUST think her design is sexy and her characterization won't change that opinion one way or the other (I for one would frankly just be down for the Stella villain song)
>>151118647Oh, redesigning her is Step 2. I'm gonna make her so fuckin' hideous that you won't be able to look at her without a barf bag at hand. And I'm gonna round up all of the merch with her old design, put it in a big pile, pour a few cans of gasoline on the pile and light that sumbitch up like Guy Fawkes Night.
>>151118681well there you go, that'll probably do it!
>>151118635I mean, rooting for the pretty girl over the crying twinks sure makes sense to me
>>151118007By killing her
>>151118720this but with shitzo
>>151118618>giggles about attempted killings,As opposed to the literal career assassins?
>>151118647>>151118681You forgot the part where you start the show again and make Stolas less of an horrible person.That or he accepts that he had a great deal in his own downfall and stop playing the victim that cannot do anything wrong/did anything wrong.Perhaps he even make sure IMP is less of a train-wreck with so many collateral damage, because come on, the chances the killed actual good people that just where in the wrong place is... 100%, having in mind they killed an actual good person in a contract.Even if you force her to do more evil actions, in comparation IMP has done worse, and by proxy, Stolas for letting them do it in the first place.The only difference they are hurting people we just met/never met, so it makes it look less "evil" until you think about it.
>>151118007I'd scrap her brother and make her smart enough to run the conspiracy herself, along with most of Stolas' estate while he just sits there all day being useless, studying astronomy and turning Octavia into some emo incapable of managing the vast resources she'll inherit and who'll be forced to get married to someone who is.So instead of being a retarded bitch who's just mad her husband fucks poor people instead of her she'd be in the same sort of situation Blitzo is in a way, with both working their asses off for some bird people who don't give a shit about them.Maybe Andrealphus can be comic relief, like she'd paint him black and have him pretend he's Stolas and you'd think it's fucked up incestuous roleplay for half a season but actually she just has him attend meetings the real Stolas is too lazy to remember about and beat the shit out of him in random parking lots.
>>151118007>narcissistic social climber from youth>was delighted to be married to a prince>disappointed by his lack of social life and homosexuality>she has more interaction with Octavia>sees Octavia as an alternate means to her goals, Stella can be mother to a prince instead of wife to a dandy>Stella uses manipulative tactics to use Octavia against Stolas but it doesn't fully work>Stella gets Octavia better gifts than Stolas but without any loveI don't want to make her sympathetic, just flesh her out more so she's more than just hot, angry bird.
>>151118544>>151118610>>151118647>>151118681Stella continues to mindbreak fags lmao
>>151118840like I said, Blitzo is still obviously very evil himself and it's weird that the show overlooks that. that said, yes, I think killing for personal amusement is slightly more evil than killing for profit. the latter is at least motivated by a tangible - if incredibly selfish - benefit, as opposed to sadism for sadism's sake
>>151118975Bro have you seen how bloodthirsty I.M.P. is? Millie relishes in killing and there's a bunch of different things they could have used the book for. They could have retrieved things from Earth, ran messages, so on and so forth. They didn't HAVE to kill people as their only source of profit. Stolas giving them the book in exchange for buttsex knowing they're using it to kill people is also pretty damning.
>>151118007One, Stella needs to be louder, angrier, and have access to a time machine. Two, whenever Stella's not on screen, all the other characters should be asking "Where's Stella"? Three, a human boyfriend who looks like me
>>151119005>>151118975If viv really wanted people to not simp for Stella, she first needs to fix the main cast and make them less evil.It is hard to not care for someone evil when everyone is evil at the end of the day.
>>151118948what's interesting to me about this is it kind of already IS her character. she's undeniably narcissistic, is shown to enjoy big social events, and is at the least classist enough to highly value her status and presumably elevating it. this take on Stella wouldn't even require rewriting her character, just... actually letting that character do things beyond show up and be mean. I understand that part of her character is she's too stupid and impulsive to actually make big power plays, and needs Andrealphus to baby her through basic court politics, and personally that's a character trait of hers that I enjoy - but god, it'd be nice for her to actually have a point more often. despite how much I like her, I'm not delusional enough to claim that she actually has a real role in the show beyond making Stolitz look better
>>151119028I think we're using a different definition of simp here. when I think of "Stella simps" I think of the portion of her fanbase that backs her up or roots for her because she's the hot one. it's not that they actually think she's a good person, they just don't care about that part. the number of people who actually take Stella's side has to be very slim, but yes, you're probably right that they feel the overall evil of the main cast justifies their takes
>>151118962It's an experiment!
I'm a Stellabro and I only watched the episodes she's in.
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>>151119077I know fags do a lot of experimenting, but not usually with women!
>>151119005that's a very fair point admittedly, it's hard to say callous greed is IMP's only sin with that in mind. you could also argue that Stolas is just as bad as Stella because the difference between killing for pleasure and letting people die for pleasure (through resulting buttsex) is very slim. at even more of a push, you could say Stolas is WORSE because at least Stella has being a total dumbass as an excuse, Stolas is intelligent enough to really think about his selfish actions and not care. Stella at least has the grace to look hot while getting up to her bullshit, maybe she really is the lesser evil for that...
>>151119079I'm a Stellabro and I watched the entire show, you were right to just watch her episodes. her scenes are honestly kinda the only time the show ever gets fun to watch. I stand by the exchange between her and Andrealphus about calling off Stolas' murder being one of the few genuinely funny bits in the usual black void of comedy
>>151119122Stella also only wanted to kill the one person that slighted her, Stolas and his butt buddy are causing death after death of people that did nothing to them and they clearly don't care if they did anything to deserve it. Blitzo killed Wriggles who was an objectively good person but spared the fags because he projected himself onto them. That's pretty fucked.
>>151119170see personally I don't think you can really use "it was for revenge" as an excuse for her attempted murder of Stolas. putting a hit on your cheating husband is pretty based and understandable in a vacuum, but she was so amused by the whole ordeal that it didn't really feel personal to her - she certainly didn't value their marriage. that and her puppy strangling childhood hobby lead me to believe she's just very violent and would call an assassin over lots of much pettier things. of course, even if I'm right, she's at least an unbiased evil psycho. Blitzo thinking Wrigglers deserved to die more than a couple fags because he couldn't relate to the former's sexual habits is actual sociopath shit, very much irredeemable. maybe at a push you could call Stella a sort of antivillain? the people she wants to kill do deserve it, just not for the reasons she's doing it
>>151118007I can save her...
>>151118007I wouldn't. Honestly, I'm just sore from you simps making me try to like this dogshit show just to spite you retards because the show is shit but not the reasons Stellafags say.I would just make her love Octavia but never to the extent that she would compromise with Stolas.
>>151119369>I would just make her love Octavia but never to the extent that she would compromise with Stolas.This. Have both of them be crap people with Stolas being only good by comparison and that's mostly because he grows and owns up to his shit. Have both of them love Octavia but be too caught up in their shit to be good parents. >Comic relief Andrealphus He should be an absolute dumbass who thinks he's a genius manipulator. The kind of guy who'd correct you by saying "Actually it's Einstein's monster." Or condescend people who call Whales fish by stating that any educated person knows they're insects.
>>151118911>That or he accepts that he had a great deal in his own downfall and stop playing the victim that cannot do anything wrong/did anything wrong.People are so dense, or outright in denial, that they don't get that Stolas was intentionally written as a delusional dumbfuck. What you said already happened in the exact episode your pic's from.Ironically, Stella rewrites try to uwuify her, just like they accuse Viv of doing with Blitzo and Stolas.>poor stella had no choice in marrying her faggot husband. she did nothing wrong uwu
This is all well and good but how does it help me? How does it help the humble Levyfag get ahead?
>>151119807>Stella rewrites try to uwuify herthat's actually completely true and I hate it now that I realise it. it's literally the same logic too, Stella should be in the right because she's hot vs Stolas should be in the right because gay sex is hot. embarrassing optics for the Stella Squadron
>>151119857I find the serpent head hotter.
You know there are times I remember watching season 1 and finding this to be a quaint little show and then season 2 began and both the show and its fandom seemed to enter or reveal such stages of mental illness that I couldn't help but think I'd be better off in some ways if I'd judged the book by its cover for once and not bothered
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>>151118007>>151119084shit that would never happen but I would like to>Andrealphus plan goes bad>Satan banishes him and Stella to wrath>she actually thrives as a rancher/gang leader>still hates Stolas so she would absolutely try killing him if he ever stepped in the Wrath Ring
>>151119807the "I cause all of this" is to general and clearly aim to the fact he choose to sacrifice himself for blitz, not all the other stuff he did wrong, or how he acted in the episode in general.And the reaction of the fandom shows they didn't took this seriously and just took more pity on him, or absolving him of his sins. They indeed should learn to give Stella more deep without making the same mistake viv did with blitz and stolas.
>>151119807>a-actually Viv Blart was making Brokeass self awareYou’re a fucking retard lmao
Can we have a Mayberry thread next? Verosika? Emberlynn even? Levy? Bel? Fem Striker? I'm so fucking tired of owls. Anything but owls or the hellhounds that attract fucking weirdos and schizos.
>>151119982There are three kinds of people in these threads.>1. People who will shovel Vivzie's shit into their mouths regardless of quality>2. People who hate everything the show stands for but find the designs hot>3. People who liked HB season 1 and the Hazbin Pilot but didn't like season 2 or the Amazon series
>>151120245I'm fairly certain a thread for ANY girl character from this show is going to attract weird schizos, the examples you listed just aren't as popular as Loona or Stella
>>151120245Agent Two thread?
>>151120347I'll take it.
>>151120347more like agent who
>>151120477Found the secondary
>>151118007The fix is already there. She was forced into a marriage she hated just as much as stolas, but copes with it differently.
>>151120102>the "I cause all of this" is to general and clearly aim to the fact he choose to sacrifice himself for blitz, not all the other stuff he did wrong, or how he acted in the episode in general.Of course Stolas is speaking in general; he’s admitting he messed up, ruined his life, and estranged himself from Octavia. Pic related here is before Stolas knew Octavia chose to distance herself from him, and he's already admitting he ruined everything, despite the comedic tone.If you’re talking about the Grimoire deal, it was already addressed in The Full Moon, in which Stolas acknowledges that the deal itself was wrong.>And the reaction of the fandom shows they didn't took this seriously and just took more pity on him, or absolving him of his sins.Who gives a shit about what these types of people think? Two sides of the same coin. I'm talking about the show itself.>>151120173>You’re a fucking retard lmaoSure, I'm the retard for not ignoring the explicit scenes where Stolas was shown as being in the wrong and even admitted it.It's like you people purposely ignore context and dialogue because it doesn't fit your narrative.
>>151118911>the chances the killed actual good people that just where in the wrong place is... 100%thats cause shitzo isnt a professional, hes a circus freak who switched to murderthe guy isnt an assassin, hes a thug with a gun, millie is a bloodthirsty psycho and loona couldnt be bothered to give half a damnthe only one who has even a semblance of professionalism is moxxie, but hes too much of a limp wristed faggot to get the rest in line
If anything, the show twists itself in knots to try to justify Blitz, not Stolas
>>151120944it'd be kinda funny to have an episode capitalize on this. like, IMP ends up getting BTFO the moment a real hell-based hitman organisation forms. maybe after a human hitman dies and arrives in hell as a sinner, he starts rebuilding his forces with a selection of other former assassin sinners (there must be a few down there, it's a pretty evil profession) and quickly ends up making IMP irrelevant
>>151121240>IMP ends up getting BTFOWill never happen.
>>151121240>human hitman dies and arrives in hell as a sinner, he starts rebuilding his forces with a selection of other former assassin sinnersno, that wouldnt be it, because sinners cannot go to earth and kill peoplealthough the idea is good>IMP get hired by a dead mafioso to go ice the guy who did him in>they go to earth, find the target and are about to kill him>then they get ambushed >turns out, the family of the dead guy had the same idea and sent their own human kill team>and these guys dont want to share, because to them its personal>que the ensuing gunfight and IMP barely managing to make it out alive, running with their tail between their legs
>>151121301oh obviously Vivzie would never write such a thing, I just think hypothetically it'd make for a funny premise
>>151121240The issue is that sinners can’t go to earth
>>151118458Just waiting patiently for Inco to pummel Striker to death with these.
>>151121363>IMP run into the Not! TFteamhow does it go?
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>>151121314>>151121321oh yeah, oops, that was a pretty big oversight on my part. I like the human kill squad idea - honestly it feels like something that should have happened by now realistically, powerful and evil people getting killed off usually leaves a bigger mess behind that way. IMP could always take credit (and payment) after the human hitmen finish the job for them anyway, which I'm sure won't lead to ANY consequences once the target also ends up in hell and the mafioso sinner finds out he was ripped off
>>151121387>I.M.P. gets hired by a geriatric demon to steal intel from his rival and twin brother>little did they know, his brother has also hired an identical assassination company to do the same>they end up locked in combat with Krieg, Molly, Spunky and their hellhound Sonni
>>151121321I wish they would clarify whether it's truly impossible for sinners to go to Earth, even with Asmodean crystals or the Grimoire.
>>151121418honestly, i just want them to go up against proper, trained human killersso far they have essentially been killing harmless weaklings, barring the odd case where they run into a crazed cannibal or a fed, they have had extremely easy hitsi want them to actually struggle and fear for their life for once, get it into their little hellspawn heads that you cant just kill people willy nilly and get away with it scot freei want them to have one of those moments that really make them rethink their life choices up until that point
>>151121491I suppose the best way to hammer in that realisation would be to have one of IMP's members get outright killed off by a superior threat as consequence, but that's asking a LOT from the Helluva Boss standard
>>151121452I assume even if they can, a sinner breaching hell would be enough to finally get the Seraphim off their holy asses to go fix that error
>>151121538maybe have them take one of their interns on a mission and they end up getting killed?
>>151121538>they kill off Moxxie>I.M.P. later holds job interviews and hires an imp with an uncanny resemblance to Moxxie>they immediately begin grooming him to talk, dress and act just like him until he's identical to him>this is never brought up or addressed again
>>151121452>>151121558They had a chance to say ghosts were sinners that escaped to Earth and can't fully manifest but axed it immediately.
>>151118007idc about her i'd make more episodes where IMP has to kill people since that's a more interesting premise to me than gay bird dramai want an episode where blitzo and moxxie get abducted by aliens and have to explain the concept of hell to them after they anal probed a guy to death
>>151121574I forgot that they have those! yeah that'd work I think, as long as it's played straight at least. just having a young and comparatively innocent intern get dragged into a real mission and sequentially shredded by bullets. then have the big takeaway be "holy shit, that was his first time up here, we're really just incredibly lucky idiots"
>>151121587that's really dark and really funny, two things that unfortunately are not compatible with Helluva Boss. love the idea though, like can you imagine the fandom just having to accept that
>>151121617speaking of more assassination episodes, what ideas would you guys have?>the crew are hired to kill a guy who works at a convenience store>they show up and take aim, but for whatever reason they miss, which alerts the guy>he makes a run for it and, turns out, hes into parkour, because he easily dodges, ducks and avoids them>they give chase, running around cars, jumping through windows, leaping from building to building etc>he even tries hiding in the sewers, but they figure it out and track him down>corner him in an alley, with blitzo knocking him down, wanting to savour the kill after all the shit he put them through>right before finishing him off, moxxie speaks up after checking his contracts picture>its not the same guy>the guy they were meant to kill was his friend, for who he was standing in that day>blitzo starts to argue with moxxie, but sensing an opportunity, the guy kicks him in the dick and flees>blitzo has had enough and decides to let the guy go while clutching his assets, seeing it as too much trouble for what its worth>the guy takes the first bus he sees and ends up in a black neighbourhood, with the episode ending with a zoom in on his face as he realizes hes just jumped out of the pan and into the fire
>>151121491I know it’s fanfiction but HILTLH(H)’s Bump in the Night was so cool for this
New BOTF was very fun!2bad the thread died overnight :(
I would make her have sex with my self insert
>>151121604At least poltergeists and possessions can be explained through infestor demons.
>>151121070The main issue with Blitzo is that he spent years refusing to change, and he still insists on being a piece of shit who shows no real empathy, even while admitting it and hating himself for it. The only time he spared a target was when he projected his and Stolas's situation onto that family. Mr. Wrigglers was too perfect by comparison, and Blitzo probably got jealous that Loona trusted him more.
Today is Via voice actor (Azul Valadez) birthday. Say happy birthday to her
>>151122435Shit, her birthday was yesterday
>>151122435>Azul ValadezShe voiced the Mexican dub of the original web series. In the Prime version, the role is played by Soledad Figueroa.I usually don't watch dubs, even though I'm a spic. Honestly, I prefer her original voice, Barrett Wilbert Weed.
>>151122549God dammit
>>151122568Barrett's birthday is in 3 days.
>>151122435i hope we get a birthday episode and she becomes officially 18
>>151120929Yes becaue I simply do not accept his regret as sincere, especially out of universeThe closest he comes to understanding his problem is when he laments giving up everything for Shitzo, but as I said, it's completely hollow. Brokeass isn't grappling with the fact that he has probably ruined his daughter's life with his faggotry, not really. It's a moment for him to doubt and be proven wrong for doubting that gay sex is the true and best pursuit How do I know this? Because the next moment they let him off the hook by turning Octavia into an unreasonable shrew. They know they CAN'T actually refute the accusation that Brokeass was happy to throw away his life for the sake of Imp dick so they had to make Octavia go full retard with "WTF YOU TOOK HAPPY PILLS THAT MEANS YOU H8 ME FAKK U DAD I AM VERY SILLY" and storm off to shift the narrative back to "oh but Stolas is just a sad uwu bean that his daughter is so mean to and doesn't understand just like his wife so when you think about it he's the real victim" TRIPE
>>151123669You're simply being intellectually dishonest. You're conflating bias from Stolas stans with what the show actually depicts.>Because the next moment they let him off the hook by turning Octavia into an unreasonable shrew.Unreasonable? She's fucking right; Stolas was taking antidepressants just to keep up the illusion of normalcy for her, but he still broke every promise he made to her.
Imagine if you stuffed Stolas into a rocket and shot him into the sun.
>>151124062The sun doesn't deserve that.
>>151124114>>151124062just beat him with rocks
>>151124155That's not as funny also wouldn't work unless they're angelic rocks
>>151118007Make her in contrast to Stolas far more cold, serious and focused on prosperity of her family. Almost completely devoid of emotions and joy which can brought out, but it is very hard. Here is my way of tackling it. This happens after her and Moxxie watch a play that speaks of a Goetia who in pursuit of greater highs of pleasure ventured into human world and was punished by heaven for causing a massacre and they speak of then of human plays in comparison to hellish ones which often include real deaths of lower Hellborn and talk about more Hellish topics.
>>151124215where's that from, it looks interesting
>>151118911The problem isn't making Stolas less of a bad person. The problem is that they cancelled out any kind of development he could have had by trying to clean up how bad a person he is.Start the show over from the start of Season 2, remove that annoying retcon, and let him actually confront himself.
At this point I think we'd be better off twisting Stolas' nuts.
>>151121240Agent 47 solos IMP. He is a bother a master of professional assassination and bizzare and wacky tomfoolery
>>151121240>>151124412How about a demon who's just like 47?
>>151124412Nigger anyone remotely competent solos I.M.P. Sterling fucking Archer solos I.M.P. Stan Smith solos I.M.P.
>>151124379My fic called Song for the Quiet Bird. You can find it on AO3
>>151124537I mean to be fair Archer does do better in situations he can't anticipate
>>151119807>>151120929At last. This Anon actually understands. Quite literally every time we see Stolas, things just keep getting worse and worse and he finds new ways to redefine rock bottom.He is totally well aware how much he's fucked up and he's very much getting his just desserts for it. Now we've got 2 more seasons to really understand the how he fucked up and how and where he can fix things.
Stolas has AIDS
>>151124627stolas is closed due to aids
>>151124544>last update was a almost a year ago
>>151124697I have a writer block currently, but I am working on new chapter. Work is going on alongside few other things. But I will continue it.
>>151121727IMP gets hired by a Sinner to make sure their inheritance actually goes to the person they want it to go to.IMP gets jumped by a demon hunter while on one of their jobs and has to fight for their lives.IMP gets hired to kill a rich 95 year old politician but have no idea that he's made Satanic pacts with high ranking demons who could easily fuck them up.IMP gets hired to kill a small animal like a fly or a mouse that keeps evading them and getting them brutally injured by chance.
>>151118007I think it would be nice if 1) Both Stolas and Stella are just actually evil for more of the run of the show. They're demons, I LIKED evil pilot Stolas, he was fun. It gives him more to grow from and more of an actual arc. 2) Make them co-abusive. Make them already cheating on eachother and backstabbing constantly, but in a bougie "respectable" way. Maybe Stolas up until Blitzo never dated down, and THAT can be where the scandal and tension come from that make Stella want to kill him. We get little hints of this in the show, but it needs more than just "Stella is an evil bitch for being mean and Stolas can literally cheat on her and be correct for doing so". They BOTH have to be shitty people.
>>151124681Whole hotel’s closed, actually.
I shall deal with the Stolas Fags... Personally!
>>151124697>>151124755I do hope you at least read some of it despite this hiatus of mine. If you don't wanna I respect that though.
>>151118007I’d take her evil to the extreme and make her make Stolas’ life a living hell instead of these bitch snide remarks about him at party gatherings
>>151120245I'm Stellafag myself but I got to agree with this Anon here, we just keep reusing Octavia or Stella, they'll become like the Loona threads. Look, we got some folks here STILL complaining about Stella, her fans and Stolas, both characters are poorly written, shit almost every character has been poorly written since late season one, reduced to caricatures for a very subpar romantic epic.
>Find a nice Helluva/SCP crossover fic>Last Updated 21 Jul 2022...
>>151125520Make the next one a Levy thread pretty please?
>>151125536I've also been slowly reading through that fic, if it's the same one I'm thinking of. But similarly, the fact it's likely never to be finished at this point, I've not been too motivated to really grind through it.
>>151118544Shes a demon. Her being evil changes nothing, thats what demons are. She just happens to be the ONLY demon in the entire franchise that isnt supposed to some teenage girls drama centerpiece about how they actually arent bad.
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>>151125590Yeah it just sapped my desire to continue reading it. Also, I've gotten into the weird habit of assuming authors who stopped updating around that time frame died from covid. Someone has recently taken that premise but had "day break" happen during the fight between Charlie and Adam causing them to form a truce.
What if Stella gained a lot of weight in the show? Lol
>>151125600>Shes a demon. Her being evil changes nothing, thats what demons areYou know, i wonder, would octavia turn out evil as well in the end?Shes by far the most innocent character on this show, but shes a demon as well, so would she end up causing misery and pain to others just like her parents?Is there any hope for her to live a better life, free from the vices and cruelties of hell or is she doomed to the same fate as all the rest of the hellborn?
>>151125615You're going to be brilliant you sexy, gorgeous turkeys!
>>151125639Get out. You belong in a garbage can.
>>151125640I want Octavia to become evil and sexy.
>>151125635It does suck that there's so many abandoned fics. Even if I understand. I've started a number of fics as a fun aside, but writing is surprisingly a big time sink to write anything of substance. And it doubly sucks with how difficult it is to find a REALLY good fic, like this SCP one. Finding those long form, good quality and finished fics that you can really sink your teeth into are a thing of beauty when they do pop up.>>151125639If only>>151125708We can only hope. I do think there's a solid chance that Via has a bit of antagonist arc in the early part of Season 4.
>>151124412>>151124529Pride RingImp CityGood afternoon 47. This may perhaps be the most supernatural contract that ICA has ever accepted. Your destination is Imp City, in the Pride Ring of Hell. Yes you heard correctly, Hell. Our clients for this hit themselves are from Hell, royalty to be exact, they made quite a grand entrance in HQ from a portal. Apparently the Hitmen of Hell have proved wanting for their tastes and have decided to see if the “Best Hitmen of the Mortal Realm” will prove different. The sheer amount of money they were willing to pay for this hit made it impossible to refuse, regardless of how absurd the situation is.Your first target is Blitzo Buckzo (the O is silent), a self-made Imp who founded his own Hitman business called Immediate Murder Professionals, or IMP for short. Blitzo had made a ludicrous living on travel to our world and killing people that the disgruntled sinners of Hell want dead. Despite having professional in his company's name, professionalism this Imp is antithesis to. He is an incredibly brash and reckless kill and after doing some research we have discovered numerous sightings of him sloppily killing his targets. While he is unprofessional he should not be underestimated. Perhaps it is time to give this red gentleman a taste of his own medicine and show how real professionals do it? (1/2)
>>151125708Evil older octavia...
>>151125877As for our second target Stolas Goetia, a disgraced Prince of the Ars Goetia. He was stripped of his rank and powers after it was discovered that he has been lending his Grimoire to Blitzo as part of sexual favors. This is how Blitzo was able to travel between worlds and propagate his business. While Stolas is much more defenseless now due to losing his powers, his nature as a Goetia means that only an angelic weapon will kill him. Thankfully our clients have been generous enough to lend us an array of angelic weaponry for the task.It seems the duo is on a romantic outing of the city on Blitzo’s day off, providing the most opportune time to take them down as Blitzo’s employees will be away and will not complicate things. A portal to Hell summoned by our clients will take you to your location, and to blend in we have decided to give a devilishly red fullbody paintjob alongside a pair of horns. You are free to kill the two targets by any means necessary, however our clients have stated if you kill either or both of them in a very humiliating manner, they will provide a nice bonus for our efforts. The stage is set 47, good luck and we’ll see you in Hell.Eliminate-Blitzo Buckzo-Stolas GoetiaMISSION STATUS: ACTIVE(2/2)
>>151125708Like with that Bounty Hunter green.
>>151126009Is that the one that's now a fic on a03?
>>151125892What will Hell be like when she runs roughshod over the Goetia and takes over her grandfather's position as head of the Goetia? If not outright takes over all of Hell?
>>151126032I believe so.>>151126043I think she'd take revenge on Hell's nobility, not like the dictator Charlie idea, Octavia would mainly target the Goetians but Octavia would eventually butt heads with Charlie thinking redemption is not only foolish but impossible.
>>151125897Now this is a premise i'd love to read a fic aboutActually, are there any good fics where either shitzo, brokeass or both die?
>>151126043A wacdonalds on every corner and a doughnut shop in every kfc.
>>151126200I have always liked the idea that if Via had any amount of influence, she'd just straight up dismantle the Goetia. Just seeing how much bullshit it's put both Stolas and even her through, she'd be inclined to trash the whole system if she could.>>151126298In certain AUs...
Post non-fat fetish adjacent older octavia
>>151126392She would spare her mother, father and her goetian friends(if she has made any) the rest will not be spared during her dismantlement of the Goetian system. But comes the question, will the rest of Hell sit by and allow it to happen?>>151126524Astro does draw a good Octavia even though the AU its from is something I do not care for.
>>151125640>You know, i wonder, would octavia turn out evil as well in the end? Going to go Tolkein on this but my headcanon is that Hellborn aren't inherently evil. Demons being pure evil with no nuance in medieval to modern Christianity only works because all demons are fallen angels who made a choice to be there. Making them a species that has babies and free will kind of throws a wrench in that. I think it's possible that Hellborn on average are more aggressive than humans and some definitely are born with sociopathic tendencies cough*Blitzo* but most of it is the environment set up by the sins who are evil. Most Hellborn are evil because they never had the chance to be good.
>>151125858>Fatfag Fred Evil!Octavia>fhumbnail looks like she's grabbing a massive hamburger checks out
>>151126770>Most Hellborn are evil because they never had the chance to be good.So what happens if you save one?
>>151126790NTA but I'd think it'd be like if you stole a baby skaven from warhammer fantasy You would have to spend a lot of time suppressing their natural need to kill that's hard coded into them but eventually they can turn out to be good
>>151126735The Goetia don't seem all that popular to the rest of Hell. Everyone took the first chance they could to throw garbage at Stolas the moment he couldn't retaliate, so I bet the rest of Hell would be fully on board.
>>151126790>So what happens if you save one? You mean like baptism or just giving them a better life? >latter That's it they grow as people away from the toxic environment. It may be too late for them as adults but as kids they have the chance to be good>former Not sure. Holy objects hurting them makes sense but I can't imagine Jesus being cool with his symbols being insta-death/mutilation to Hellhound puppies.
>>151126854I'd read a story about a hellborn being adopted and raised christian. He could be afraid to baptize them because he doesn't know what will happen.
>>151126817>but I'd think it'd be like if you stole a baby skaven from warhammer fantasyI'm pretty sure skaven, beastmen and orcs are all objectively evil on a genetic levelLike, skaven are literally biologically predisposed to backstab, beastmen are all ubiquitously hateful and spiteful of civilization and orcs were genetically engineered to be as warlike as possibleTrying to change any of these three would only end in disaster
>>151127038In terms of beastmen and orcs yes but skaven are an interesting caseThey've been shown in different instances that they are capable of more complex emotions but when around other skaven it's considered weakness and will get them killedA baby skaven taken from the nest which is almost an impossibility, could theoretically be conditioned to be good
>>151127251Eh, pretty sure the great horned rat owns all of them and their souls, so even if you could do what you propose, they would just revert eventually to their nature and stab you in the back
>>151127305Well it would because it's warhammer but the point is they would have a brief moment to actually be good and know what friendship is
>>151126817>adopt three hellhound boys and take them to Earth with disguises to raise them>they grow up saying their prayers, getting good grades in school and helping their community>everyone always mentions how (you) did a heckuva job raising those boys
>>151126831Still, the Sins, even Charlie or Lucifer would likely intervene for stability reasons, fearing that allowing apart of Hell's hierarchy to be dismantled would result in a domino effect, leading to other aspects of Hell being fractured or worse. >>151127038>are all objectively evil on a genetic levelThis could also be true about most wrath hellborn and demons in general, not saying it's impossible to uplift them into being good or least neutral but it's a very uphill task.
Do demons outright hate humans or do they simply not care about hurting them it they get to benefit from it?I think i heard someone here say that blitzo actually has some biases against people
>>151126972>Adopt a Hellborn>Raise em Christian and to be good>Baptize the demon kid>Kid ascends to an Angel
>>151127663>Do demons outright hate humans or do they simply not care about hurting them it they get to benefit from it?Likely both, some likely hate humans because they hate Lucifer and see humans as a symptom of Lucifer's reign an influence while some are indifferent and others are simply misanthropic.
>>151127663They see humans as a different race, they are racist against us and don't see us as sentient beings just like they are.They only see the worse of humanity, so they will believe we are just the worst of our self once they lay an eye on us, no matter if they never saw us do those things they accused us.....Except if they are gay like them, then they will see themselves in us and have mercy on us.In other words, be gay if you want demons not to kill you!
What do you think hell cuisine is like?Do they eat the same slop humans on earth do, but with a hellish flair, or do they have weird and unique foodstuffs?Goetias for example eat raw rats, but what other courses would they partake in that takes advantage of their avian anatomy and their high class tastes?What about imps? We see M&M eat giant leeches, but what else could pass for a "traditional" imp recipe?Hellhounds probably eat everything under the sun and then some
If I was a writer I would quit on the spot wondering why I was picked to write for this god awful show.
>>151128216probably worse, having in mind it is hell.That or it would mutate any human that ate it, so nothing much to tell.
>>151128216Each ring likely has it's own set of cuisine or slop. >Goetias for example eat raw rats, but what other courses would they partake in that takes advantage of their avian anatomy and their high class tastes?Raw rats seem to be a snack for them but most rather enjoy a fine meal, what that meal could be would vary from estate to estate. >What about imps? We see M&M eat giant leeches, but what else could pass for a "traditional" imp recipe?Would vary on the ring the Imp is from, Wrath Imps would enjoy bbq or what they would see as bbq, Greed Imps might prefer something more sophisticated though not as fine as Goetian dining. >Hellhounds probably eat everything under the sun and then some.Like cake out of the trash.
>>151128324>Like cake out of the trash.Kek
>>151118007SEXOOOOO SEXXXX WITH STELLA SEX SEX SEXSTELLASTELLASTELLA SEXXX SEXOOOO BREEDING SEX WITH STELLACLOACA STRETCHING, FEATHER RUFFLING, EGG MAKING, LOVING BREEDING SEX WITH STELLA FOR LIFE
>>151128216I hate that I can't talk about how much I'd love to cook for my girl without summoning fatfags or worse but I'd absolutely love to cook for her and share a meal. Just hits the heart right knowing she enjoyed the food I made.
>>151128984Calm down there, Anon >>151128997Tis a shame.
Imagine cuddling with both loona and octavia in a fluff sandwich with you in the middle
>>151129142Lol Stellar, very cute
>>151129167I don't believe those two, especially Octavia, like to share, Anon. >>151129261Indeed
>>151129310Loona might, considering shes bi and was willing to become the 3rd in vortex and bee's relationship, but yeah octavia wouldntIn any case, i said cuddling, not fucking, it doesnt have to be sexual
>>151129342>was willing to become the 3rd in vortex and bee's relationshipThat's not true at all. She left Bee's party crying.
>>151129342>In any case, i said cuddling, not fucking, it doesnt have to be sexualFair enough, just being cautious.
>>151128216Vivzie would probably have hell food do something horrific to humans but what if we go more folkloric and say it slowly binds a human to hell. Its like eating the food in fairyland or hades. The more a person eats Hell food the less able they are to leave for long periods even while alive.
Nona x Loona
>>151118007I would impregnate her using my Oc self-insert.
>>151130723>slow day at the office>it's hot as fuck outside>and the ac isn't working (thanks blitz)>loona is fanning herself and panting>nona sits down beside her>she slowly starts unbuttoning her shirt halfway>giving loona a nice look at her sweaty teets>nona gives a smile>"hmm... what that tongue do?">loona's tongue immediately reels back into her mouth>oh satan, why can't she stop wagging her tail?!
>>151130998hot
>>151128324>>151128390>"It was not trash!">Was it in the trash?>"Yes.">Then it was trash.
>>151129342No.
>>151130723Nona x Loono.
>>151130998>it's a "man named Leslie" situation
>(you) land a date with GigiWhere do you take her?
>>151131584The park?What race is this chow chow?
>>151118007I would kill her because she's a DEMON.THIS SHOW IS SATANIC
>>151131598Hellhound.
>>151131473>today is an unusually cold day in hell>blitza is too much of a cheapskate to pay for heating>luckily for loono his coat of fur keeps him toasty>unluckily for nona she is freezing her sinner ass off>loono notices this and decides he has to do something>he walks over to her with his arms slighlty spread>"you uh, need to warm up or some-">nona rushes into a tight hug that sends loono on his butt>she runs her hands under loono's shirt>feeling and grasping at his fur>one on his back and another on his slightly toned pec>nona taking deep huffs of loono's fur>loono is total shock>she's sitting on me oh SHIT she's gonna feel my boner
>>151131624Kek based
>>151131473Blona x Octavious
>>151131624>>blitza is too much of a cheapskate to pay for heating>her greed indirectly led to her son getting stolen from her by a humiei wonder if shes sufficiently self aware to realize her blunder
>>151131873This is what she would look like if she was black or chinese
>>151131930why are white(coded) boys like this?
>>151131584Simply Crimson's.Yes, *that* Crimson. Overly-Expensive, fancy and I guarantee I'd have to shoot or bribe a couple for a reservation. It's that or Ozzie's but that might be a bit too...risque in terms of atmosphere. Plus they'd probably hark on us for being romantic rather than just horny.
>>151131584>>151132127>taking your date to a place in hell>instead of using your knowledge of earth and taking her to a human place so she could experience the joys of being away from that dump and imps for at least a little while
>>151132174I haven't had much sleep today, so forgive my -5 IQ.
how would she and stella interract?
>>151132423They wouldn't
>>151132462I can only say we haven't never seen Stella and the Speaker of god in the same room
>>151132499We've never seen Blitzo and Katie Killjoy in the same room either
>>151132499the big twist is Stella is the speaker taking material form in hell, Stella is so invariably evil because she's a persona created to test Stolas (he's failing that test)trust and believe, they'll confirm this in Helluva season 26 or something
>>151132898Pretty sure this guy draws some gay ass shit
>>151132898
>>151132898sex with stolas while i hit him and call him an annoying faggot (he thinks i'm just being kinky)
>>151133215Sootrat hands typed this post.
>>151133020Does he? I just save art, I don't usually look into the artist.
>>151132044God-given (heh) drive to colonize.
What if I nuked Hell.Will that make Heaven like me?
>>151133493yup, check his stuff out https://www.deviantart.com/umnokorito/gallery
>>151133691Damn that's pretty gay.
>>151129167>Octavia makes little hoots and coos>Loona makes happy dog groans and soft sleep barks
>>151118007Is Brandon Rogers videos worth the watch?
>>151131624>Loono gets the sexy gremlin autist gfIT SHOULD'VE BEEN ME NOT HIM
I wonder who she called right now
>>151133888you already know, anon
>>151133888(You)
>>151131584>Letting him touch her hairGigi must really like that Greek guy
>general ignores hazbin hotel which is now starting season 2>general ignores discussing helluva boss >general is being wishful for romance and mostly platonic affection >don't forget the fanfics that are romantically coded>oddly defensive of women >women have been confirmed to be here in the past >oddly against porn>viciously against sex toys (unless they are for women)Maybe it's for the best that this place slowly whithers away. I think /hhg/ is what this place was always meant to be, but even better cause it's a red board.
Boohoo.
>>151133991>literally every point he makes is based and wholesome>”this place sucks!”
>thread about a show for foids>there are foids in the threadAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE HOW DID THIS HAPPEN
>>151134072>>151134088Don't engage the schizo, he's a fucking lunatic. He just wants to sink the thread with arguing. Just hide and ignore.
>>151118007Stella brides Blitzo into fucking her to cuck Stolas to fuck him over and accidentally starts loving Blitzo
>>151134088not to say that hes right, but its kinda weird that there are women in these threads when most of the conversation revolves around the female characters and how wed make love to them/hhg/ is woman central due to all the weird, fucked up gay porn and the discussion being centered around the male characters
>>151134121Once I realized that actual women are ITT I was like "Holy shit it all makes sense".
>Looks like a certain anon forgot to take his happy pills again!
>there are women in these threadsdo you faggots have a single piece of evidence to back that up?this is just a waifu general, why the fuck would there be foids in it?
>>151134121There really aren't that many women here if any at all, all the crazy fujos are in /hhg/. Ironically the crazy fujo chicks and troons are the ones discussing the show because they're the only ones who care about the fujo tripe and the only ones who simp for Blitzo and Stolas. Better question is why you're all indulging the schizo when you've seen the threads implode multiple times from feeding him. The only winning move is not to play.>>151134156None, he's hoping if he repeats it enough times people will believe him. These are men's threads and if he thinks otherwise he's gonna have a bad time in /hmofa/.
>>151134156As far as I know there are only two confirmed femanons who frequent /hhg/ (and only /hhg/). One of whom is married and the other was having a kid last I heard.I imagine it's the onaschizo again because A. Spam across /co/, /v/ and /trash/ threads coincidentally earlier today and B. Their last point about porn and sex toys.Granted I'd hold my breath since this *is* an anonymous image board, but damn if it ain't activating the almonds.
>>151134219A sensible chuckle to be had.
>>151134214Even if it is unmasking le poopdick schizo only emboldens them and makes them a celebrity just ignore em.
>>151134221Winrar
>>151134235Indeed.Have a Mayberry
>>151134190>So uh.... How's it feel being a femoid anyway?blissful ignorance your entire life, pretty much>Having to bleed once a month with cramps unless you bombard your system with hormones.some have it better, some have it worse>Not being able to penetrate and dominate, only be taken?they dont care about that >Knowing that your reproductive fantasies have a hard time limit due to you being unable to get pregnant past a certain point?they dont even think about that until they are around 35>Knowing that women are judged off their sex appeal which fades away rapidly?they dont care about that, if they did they wouldnt ride the cock carousel >Knowing that men are replacing you with toys, AI, dolls, robots, and bypassing you with hookers?none of those can give a man the feeling of being wanted like hed want except maybe a hooker, which is also a woman >How does it feel being half our size, strength, and speed?they like that part, most women have rape fantasies, remember? They are digsuted by short, meek men>How about seeing rising "misogyny" in response to feminism?they get turned on by it>How does it feel knowing that any "rights" you have are only there because men enable it?they dont think about that eitheryou have to understand that, if women had half the awareness men do, they wouldnt be as undeserving of the freedom we have given themthey lack the critical thinking skills and capacy to self-reflect that we have, so they dont realize the mistakes they make, so they keep making them until they are unable to do so anymore, at which point they blame men for their misery
>>151134186>These are men's threads and if he thinks otherwise he's gonna have a bad time in /hmofa/. Saying that sounds kind of silly because it makes posting furry exegesis headcanons sound like big game hunting, but you're right. Even the gay stuff feels more male oriented ie Vortex, Pinklie, Loono than fujo oriented.
>>151134267Stop feeding the troll
>>151134249More please.
Made for human men.
>>151134318>Thing is the wall comes for them allit does, not a one manages to escape it, but even to their dying breath they will blame men for it: ”where have all the good men gone?”then they will go ahead and encourage other, younger women to do just like they have, because misery loves company and women are vain, self centered and petty cuntsthey will never admit, even to themselves, that they did wrong, literally 0 responsability i hate women, i come here because these literal demon girls are more pure than these STD ridden foids ever will be
>gypsy is still feeding the schizoOf fucking course
>>151134346This is going to sound like stupid hfy but being a live human in hell or just a more human looking sinner like Alastor would land you a ton of pussy. Most chicks would still be mostly attracted to humans because they were humans which means a guy who isn't a skullfaced bear deer hybrid or a sofa would be somewhat desirable by default.
>>151134425Considering how many furries there are the more human you are the more of a rare commodity you'll be, yeah.
>>151134404i keep seeing this character, whats her deal?
>>151134404QRD on her?
>>151133991
tell me what would you do to make her life a little better?(she was in one of the hazbin hotel MV)
>>151134473She's in the first episode song and she's basically used and tossed away by the Vees in a matter of seconds
>>151134495>she's basically used and tossed away by the Vees”used”?as in raped or what?
>>151134485Sorry for deleting previous posts.
>>151134518No they just use her image and have her participate in a bunch of porn and social media things until they can't profit off of herThe most we get is Val waxing her pussy
Why did she do it
>>151134485offer her my unconditional attention and friendship, I feel like that's what she would really need after the whole ordeal. help her to relearn that the image the Vees painted of her isn't the person she really is, and that she shouldn't feel defined by what they made her into. hopefully she can start believing she's loveable for the person she is right now, and that - as sudden and hurtful as the experience was - her ejection from VoxTech was for the best
>>151134485Just give her a job that isn't demeaning
>>151134553you gotta keep in mind that shes in hell, so she deserves some of that misery shes experiencingwe dont know what she did while alive, but it probably wasnt nice to warrant a one way ticked to the abyss
>>151134554Like, what kind of job?
>>151134572Cashier or secretary
>>151134566I know, I know, realistically I'm going too easy on her lol. it's just the way she seems so genuinely crushed by her infamy and eventual firing makes her seem very naive and fragile. you wouldn't expect a baby eating rapist to be so upset by the mean things other evil demons say, right?unless of course she's the kind of evil narcissist that will still let her tears pour and act victimized when things stop going her way, maybe I'd just be a very easy target in hell...
>>151134616You can get sent to hell for some really innocuous stuff in HB.
>>151134551For the funny.>>151134518Prostituted and marketed as the next big starlet.Also DSLs
>>151134638Damn bro the Vees downgraded her.
>>151134651>DowngradedWhatever you say.
>>151134667I do say.
i cant be bothered to watch hazshit, whats she like personality wise?
>>151134683Yeah well it says right here that you have shit taste.Though I must admit DSLs are quite easy to ruin in art.
>>151134766Just you're typical big momma figure who's chill with most things
>>151134779They're not awful, shrink em down about 25% and they'd be hot imo
>>151134637this is also true, and what I'm hoping for with her in this scenario. Sir Pentious' damning sin was bad but not pure evil like most other sinners seem to have been in life, hypothetically the bar for damnation could be even lower than Pentious' case and unnamed celebrity girl went to hell for taking the Speaker's name in vain a couple times or whatever
>>151134792so, princess celestia, but birb?
>>151134833Yeah basically
>>151134833I hadn't thought of it that way but yes, very similar personality and manner of speaking
>>151134833Who?
>>151134934Sun butt horse
>>151134291>Vortex, PinklieI forgot about those two
>>151134766>>151134833I bet you never watched a second of MLP: FIM, either. You're a fan of the fandoms, but nothing more.
>>151134551>you don't get it, anon. humans lose their SHIT when you throw this type of party! rage is at least in my top 100 favorite types of excess
>>151133020He's a Helluva Boss fan artist, you're gonna find gay shit.
>>151134986Satan-approved kek
>>151134979i watched until the wedding 2 parter and then stopped, because that was the last season at the timenever picked it back up after and i dont regret it, hearing how far its fallen
>>151134121I like this artist, to bad they're a Stolitzfag and a fatfag, and not in the way I like (they draw orbshit)
>>151135047What, you don't wanna ponder the orb?
>>151135068Not unless they're tits. The thing is they draw fat girls as if the were an inflation artist instead of a fat artist, therefore its no bueno for me.
What would Stolas do if a tiny imp ran across his table right now? Would he be scared? Would he try to fuck it? Would he wanna smash it to pieces with a mallet? What would he do?
>>151135047well see, now I'm curious just how many fatfags are in these threads / watch this show. there seems to be more than I'd expect, is it the autism at work?
>>151135180>is it the autism at work?Always Hazbin.
Reveal that Stolas was neglecting Stella and that if Stella just did to Stolas what Blitzo does to him they would have loved each other. So I'd have Stella fuck Stolas in the ass and make him her Slut Bitch.
>>151135211kek, shut up anon
>>151135180BBWfaggotry is one of the much more "common" and "normalized" weird fetishes. It's one that's existed for a looong ass time. So much like feet it's one of the first fetishes to get art around any IP. I think a vast majority of it is born from the Sticc to Thicc pipeline (Also known as the Bronson Phenomenon) where people start liking thicker and thicker girls cause bigger boobs and butts until they start liking fat bitches they wouldn't have found attractive years ago. Also many fatfags are moreso attracted to fat girls in art, not irl fatties, cause even as a fatfag myself I recognize that 90% of IRL fat women are ugly and nasty both in body and personality (Just look at dear ol Vivzie).
>>151135313that's interesting, thank you for the insight fat-anon. I think you're right about it becoming more normalised, I've been seeing it more prevalently on sites outside of 4chan too. the fact the interest is primarily in fictional fat girls does explain some things as well - of course I'm seeing it more in threads on /co/ because they're about cartoon characters, something it would be appealing to project this fetish on because real life examples don't do it for them
>>151135381Yeah, I like to think most of us are well aware and can separate fiction from reality here. The kinda fat girls that get drawn in fetish art are very "idolized" and "perfected". It tailors to specific sub niches of fatfaggotry where despite being obese they have a pleasant looking body compared to the mess of fat that all meshes together into a blob (and not the good kind) of adipose. This Loona is a good example (just pretend she has a big fat gut to), she’s fat but not a grotesque 600 lb life looking fatty that you’d see on TLC. She looks like a soft pillow and marshmallow that you could cuddle and grope forever,
>>151135180>>151135313>>151135381To be honest, Stolas and Loona properly sealed the Hellaverses fate when it comes to attracting fat fetishists. Loona was the first I drew in that regard.If it were a bunch of humanoid or lizard demons, yeah, you'd have some interest, but you get Loona being furry bait and Stolas a feathery guy, that's going to attract the massive crowd that wants to see them bigger. And >>151135538 is absolutely right, they beauty with these characters is you can idealize them. And you can handwave away the negatives of obesity because they're fictional animal people.
>>151135583Is that a greek Bee?
>>151135538makes sense to me, that IS a cute Loona! that said, I've definitely seen people who ARE into the 600lb reality "star" kind of fat (even irl examples of it), but I suppose that's just how varied people's tastes can be. >>151135583I hadn't considered this, yeah the furry overlap 100% has to be a factor here. hell, the fact you can use fictional anthro animal rules to handwave away the gross parts is probably why so many furries in general are also into that
>>151135583Yeah even if I wasn't a fatfag i'd find it disappointing. Bee is queen of gluttony and her creations, the Hellhounds are smaller aspects of that Sin as well. It's apparent that Lonna is a gluttonous bitch given we see her raiding the fridge and stealing moxxie's food often, and Sinsmass confirmed it when her way of celebrating was just being an even bigger glutton. Imps represent their creator Sin Satan quite well, the vast majority of them are wrathful and violent motherfuckers. Even ones like Crimson who live in Greed still have that Wrathian brutality to them. I guess Vivzie just wants to idolize a world were you can be a gluttonous bitch and still maintain that hourglass golden ratios (lame). They couldve made a funny joke were Bee uses an invisible corset or magic to keep herself looking slim but in reality she's pretty fat
>>151135654>LonnaLONNAAAAAAAA
>>151135603Its probably suppose to be an "ancient times" for her so its vaugely greek. Astr0zone really cooked here (its part of a russian rolette game were you fatten up girls, this is just her base image in it before she gets fatter).
>>151135664Im sorry anon, I type so fast that I make that mistake a lot
>>151135672Whoever he is he comes up with good designs I just wish he didn't use his powers for evil
>>151135603>>151135672This is correct. I've been chatting with a friend of wondering what Bee would have been like in more ancient times. And the idea of her in a toga interested me. And this art was supposed to be vaguely Halloween-themed, so her dusting off the ol' robes for the occasion felt like a good opportunity to draw it
>>151135654shit, I'm not a fat fag and I still agree with this. even Loona's design just kinda feels like she should be a little chubby but just... isn't, because of Vivzie art rules? like I look at her and get this feeling like if any other artist designed her she would be, it's strange. the in-universe reasons of her hailing from Beelzebub's realm and her evidenced personal gluttony only add to that. "Bee should be fat" is a point that's obviously been driven into the ground since we first saw her, but just for the record, I absolutely still think Bee should also be fat
>>151135717Credit where credit's due, I like the ancient design. I'm just not into the fat shit associated with it. >>151135730Eh, I'm actually fine with Bee being skinny. What I'd prefer is if she's always seen eating and drinking, with the food dissolving in the lava lamp. Constant consumption and never being full.>personal gluttonyIirc she ate Moxxie's lunch in the defunct pilot, but we never really see her eat like that until Sinsmas which is a one time thing. I do like to think hellhounds can eat and digest shit that isn't edible like Blitzo's phone at least. Maybe they just have higher metabolisms and that's why they're not all fatties.
>>151135770I see where you're coming from, but is it really gluttony if you're always hungry? technically, that's just eating to satiety, it's just that satiety never comes. hellhounds eating random inedible shit like regular dogs is always an idea I've found funny, but I don't think it ever came up again after the blended phone gag which is a shame. the high metabolism thing could definitely explain it if we went the "Bee is skinny because no food actually sustains her" route, but honestly just in general it'd be nice to have some canon explanation beyond "Vivzie only draws fatties if they're also evil antagonists"
sup people, here's my vision of older Octavia
>>151135842>I see where you're coming from, but is it really gluttony if you're always hungry?It's gluttony because food and substances will never fill the empty void you feel inside no matter how much you try.
>>151135699By evil you mean him drawing fat stolitz stuff right? Cause using powers to draw bbws is the opposite of evil in my book lol
>>151135903Yeah the fatfag shit is just not my thing no offense
>>151135891She needs to be my fat wife
>>151135892I checked and apparently the most basic definition of gluttony is just "habitual overeating", so gluttony's sin being biologically forced to do so does check out from that angle. personally I more closely associate gluttony with fatness because I think of gluttony as excessive and totally unnecessary indulgence in food, even when it becomes a risk to yourself and others (i.e. through slowly killing yourself with the health risks of obesity whilst simultaneously letting others starve to keep overfeeding yourself)
>>151135891this is cool! I like how tired she looks, girl has been through some shit
>>151135961Either way is valid imo, but "fat" is so often the go to and I think there are other ways to do it. Viv missed the mark though by not showing her eating and rapidly digesting everything.
>>151135891I love the outfit and how angular she is. A very well done older Via.
Oh another thing, Bee could have also been a "binge and purge" glutton which would've fit the popstar angle well.
>>151136010that's fair yeah, I get wanting to go with the less obvious take. iirc Vivzie tried to claim she was doing the same thing with canon Beelzebub, but - as you said - the lack of showing a thematically appropriate reason for WHY Bee would stay skinny makes me think she just didn't wanna draw a fatty
>>151127663I wonder if demons can get a human fetish.
>>151136198I'd bet money on it just being that she didn't want to make Kesha's fursona a fatass. Load of good that did since she's not voicing her anymore.
>>151136317oh absolutely lol, though I've always been lost of why she decided Beelzebub should be who Kesha voices in the first place. she could have made a new Kesha-esque party girl character to still rope her celebrity fixation into the show with, and still given us a more gluttony-appropriate Beelzebub voiced by someone she's less autistic about. you'd assume if anyone knew how to have their cake and eat it too, it'd be Vivzie
>>151136317Love the sideboob in this pic.On the subject of Kesha, do we know what actually went down between her and Viv? Or was it just an instance of quiet bridge-burning?
>>151136390Viv just plain doesn't think things through.
>>151136390Queen Bee would work as a mascot that the real Beelzebub was selling.
>>151125536Could you tell my the name of its?
>>151137070
>>151137060I like this idea, like she uses Kesha not-Beelzebub as a front to be all "see? you can submit to gluttony and still be supermodel skinny! I care about all my party guests SO much, by the way!" while in reality Beelzebub is a fat fuck behind the scenes luring people into self-destruction
>>151137234>like she uses Kesha not-Beelzebub as a front to be all "see? you can submit to gluttony and still be supermodel skinny! I care about all my party guests SO much, by the way!" while in reality Beelzebub is a fat fuck behind the scenes luring people into self-destructionSo just Bee and Viv?
>>151137272KEK, well when you put it like that, absolutely!
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>>151135977>>151136019thanks, i think of adult Octavia as some kind of royal seeress
>>151134249>>151134346Fellow Mayberry enjoyers? >>151135891Quite Nice. >>151131873Solas would not approve, she's not very fond of black women.
>>151131873>>151138032https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYbHceqc5wA
>>151138032>Solas would not approve, she's not very fond of black women. Because Agent One feels the opposite way.
>>151138032>>151138053>>151138208>Solas is in a catfight (get it?) with Sinner!Two>up close grappling and attempting to slash her stomach>feels a major opening but she didn't make it and there's no blood pouring from it>it's a pouch>"Wait are you a fucking Abo?!">"I'm Melanesian you dyke!"
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>>151138208Solas doesn't like those Schvartzes, because one in particular is always trying to steal her man.
more Via
>>151138336Kek>>151138432Nice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwzQyZ3SvSk>what Anon hears every time Blitzo talks
>>151133977OPA!
>>151138432Neat.
>>151139586Who's the other Goetian lady?
>>151139615Probably stolas' oc sister
>>151139801Looks like a recolor of Stolas with tits
>appears in your house at 3 AM
>>151140627>"Anon! I have been watching you.">"I bet you have, gay boy."
Stolas deserves a man who truly loves him and treats him well.
>>151140686This.
>>151140686>>151140689Lava skunk hands typed this.
I find Stolas' character arc to be both shallow and pedantic.
>>151140813>It insists upon itself.
>>151118007What is there to fix?If anything she should be killing trannies and faggots left and right!
>>151140686>>151140627>Octavia is getting suspicious of You and Stolas>You two have been hanging out more often than usual, Stolas seems giddy every time he sees you. >Octavia is simply annoyed that, while she is happy her father likes you, she does not like him hogging your attention away from her. >During one night she pretended to be too focused on her studies, so naturally you and Stolas hang out. >After a while she sneaks out and quietly makes her way to Stolas' study room, upon reaching the door she sees it's unlocked and hears mumbling. >Octavia burst opens the door, only to see.>Books and scrolls in Latin, a television playing HBO's Rome, you and Stolas in helmets. >You, Stolas and Octavia just stare at each other, mainly out of awkward confusion. >Turns out, despite Stolas being forty years old, least in terms of a human's age, he's still a twenty year old at heart.
>>151140935Based.
I don't respect Stolas that much I simply wish to sexualize him and turn him into my personal dicksleeve, I want him to walk around in slutty clothes and tease people so they know that I'm the only one that gets to fuck him every night.
>151141028
>>151133888>(you)
I found this picture somewhere and i dont know what to think of it
>>151141179I like the idea of Stolas being your historic autist buddy, not whatever that was. >>151141628It's Paimon with his three wives, he needs to sire heirs after all. It seems the one on the left is a tomboy, pretty based taste.
>>151141720>It's PaimonDoesnt look like him though, the face markings are missingI think its just 4 OCs
>>151118007id have her alienate Stolas from her life.
>>151143190*alienate Octavia from Stolas' life
need loona bounce.gif
BEHOLD
>>151145731It's out of frame but Loona is showing off her personal collection of tamagotchis here.
>>151145755>Loona sharing her autistic hobbies with (you)That's how you know she really loves you, I bet she's got a couple fixations she doesn't share with anyone.
>>151145731>>151145755>Why do you have so many of these?>"I beat on a lot of other kids in the orphanage way back when. Couple of 'em didn't wake up.">tfw
>>151135717Thats a cute Bee.
>anon, loono and octaviousWhat shenanigans would they get up to?
How will you celebrate when Viv jumps the shark? I think I'll have a bunch of jelly donuts.
>>151147068With uproarious laughter and a bottle of JDs.>>151147015They accidentally burn down Asmodeus' House of Lust.
>>151147015>>151147181>Beavis and Butthead and the other Butthead
So much for them being fallen angels, it wouldn't been too interesting.
>>151147875>lucifer created the Goetia.Then how in they FUCK ended this way? Why he didn't keep them on line, and made sure they didn't get corrupted by fucking hell?!??????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFRed-scvcYloona and stolas playing just dance
