We're reaching levels of Lucyspace that shouldn't even be possible edition.Website: https://www.bittersweetcandybowl.com/Candybooru: https://www.bittersweetcandybowl.com/candybooru/Trash thread: >>>/trash/79072323Previous thread: >>151177767
and it keeps on going and it keeps on going and it keeps on goingTaeshi you promised it was her turn! When is it her turn!
>>151216834What, James is going to invite her to the team when Mike is there? Is this shit for real?
>>151216834JAMES IS GONNA DO ITHE'S GONNA ASK HER TO GET INVOLVED IN THINGS SHE NEVER WANTED
>>151216834why is she doubling down on lucyspace? it's been a common criticism of this comic for basically its entire run. has she ever acknowledged it outside of the comic, like when she explained her reasons for dropping lucyxpaulo despite going all-in on the pairing for several years?
>>151216834>Like none of the emotional shit just happened minutes ago>the queue to suck Lucy's dickLMAO
she's going to join the boys track team in drag like one of those old shojo manga
Why even bother posting this on /co/?Buy a fucking ad Oliver.
>>151216878>lucyspace about to expand and reach the track teamPAULO DO SOMETHING
>>151216897>Taeshi self inserts as Lucy and thinks she's being subtle and clever.>She isn't and gets increasing criticism and questions about why the universe bends around itself for Lucy.>Gets mad and intentionally makes the universe bend around Lucy out of spite.>The deranged part of her fanbase will keep supporting her no matter what anyways.I'd guess this.
>>151216897As if Taeshi has ever once glanced at criticism of her comic. Next page is pic related btw.
>>151216834>>151216897What the fuck is Lucyspace?Anyways, a nothing burger page. Feels like Taeshi didn't think past the 'Sick Burn' she was gonna deliver to Mike in this chapter so now we just have nothing floundering until this chapter concludes.Also since fuckin when is Augustus friends with Rachel and them? He car-pooled with them... once? And saw them in the hallways... once??Also James becoming a Lucy simp? I think Suitcase was serious about this post you guise.
>>151216834Davidspace also applies because Lucy is acting grateful for some reason.
>Lucyspace forces Mike out of the track team, leaving him well and truly alone in the worldalso isn't cross country not co-ed?
>>151216897As if anyone allowed to get a message through the Suitcase filter has ever voiced that particular opinion. Can you imagine the meltdown Taeshi would have if someone got to ask her, point blank, why Lucy is such a Mary Sue?
>Lucy being thankful and affectionate to DavidC'mon!>>151216878To a male team no less? Like I don't think they got mixed teams
>polo will be voice of reasonseems like Michael and Paulo are the only normal people left in this cast, wow.
>>151216985It seems as though only Mike and perhaps Paulo is immune to Davidspace.
>>151216968This reminds me of that anon in a go-kart that saw some chick crying in the park and was doing laps.
>>151216953>What the fuck is Lucyspace?Lucyspace (noun): a societal phenomenon where proximity to the most amazing character in BCB causes everyone to recognize the amazingness of said character, even when it totally breaks THEIR character and the story at large
>>151216953Lucyspace is the reason all these glaring plot holes and forced characterization is happening, because it's "coincidentally" in Lucy's favor and makes her look good
>>151216987It's all feeling very Stepford Wives right now. Taeshi had literal decades to prepare for Lucy's return to the table and, instead, she's leaning on the concept of stuff just happening because she wants it to.
>>151217016You forgot how said amazing character is usually an unlikable piece of walking garbage.
>>151216987For now, it IS Paulo afterall
>>151216884She always fucking wanted itMike being miserable and alone is her preferred birthday present and she has gotten it both in and out of universe at this point.
>>151216897Taeshi is literally mentally ill.Thats it.. thats the whole reason for all of this shit.Every flaw, inconsistency, backpedal, plot hole... Taeshi is mental.Just a bit ago she showed she still thinks of Mike as his old, origional self from YEARS ago when he actually pushed back and could have fun with Lucy... Its been since the doodle era since he was like that.She is so fucking broken that she does not acknowledge the YEARS of abuse she has heaped on mike since he is a stand in for her husband who she kinda hates alot of the time. You can match every 'Mike torture' arc to some petty argument she and her man have had just before the time.She is a broken, broken woman.Never stick it in crazy guys, at least not this kinda crazy.
MARAUDER LUCY IS REALLUCYSPACE IS REALMAINTAIN MINIMUM SAFE DISTANCE AT ALL TIMES
>>151217038You're a third dimensional being so it doesn't work on your kind... usually
>>151217050A better comic would capitalize on the pottery of the historically least reasonable character at the table becoming the one who sees through everyone else's convenient bullshit.
>>151217004Daisy is usually indifferent to Lucy and annoyed at the other characters fawning (Mike's entire argument about the stupid lunch table in december that made lucy kill herself is based around this fact), but will randomly act like Lucy's best friend when it's convenient to the plot
>>151217016Should we attribute Lucy's teleportation abilities (e.g. her appearence at the arcades or near the Sandy's old tree) to the Lucyspace?
>>151216834>>151216897It's so strange man, this lack of self-awareness, I mean. Does she not notice how lame of a character Lucy ends up being?Literally everything bends and twists in her favor, except Mike, which in turn marked him for eternal suffering.I'm telling you, I've said it before, the only logical explanation is that she does it out of spite for some of her readers (including most people here).
>>151216897>Mike is suicidally depressed (?)>And his mom is a psycho bitch and Haley has run away from home (?)>And he's bisexual and crushing on James (?)>but he'd totally Fork in the Road Lucy right here and now (?)>and Augustus knows this and wants to keep them apart so I guess he was lying about Lucy being suicidal because of Mike (?)>also he's stringing along James (???)If Taeshi listened to criticism then she'd get that this cryptic shit has RUINED her comic. How is anyone supposed to care about the plot when you have zero clue what the fuck anyone is talking about? It's not even the first time, this all came to bite her in the ass in Eternal Flame and all she did was have a tantrum and run away.
>>151217050Paulo has got to be the best character in this mess.Yet because of that, he got hit with 'character inconsistency' the worst.Some chapters, he is 100% on the money and calling out everyone's bullshit. He has his own issues he deals with and has actually been shown putting in fucking effort.others, he randomly starts to simp for lucy or is suddenly questioning his sexuality?
>>151217055It fits with her use of under the fridge tier old receipts to punish him, I guess if she did get something from Tumblr it was that people should always be punished for their misdeeds as if they were hitler no matter how changed they actually are as people
>>151217070that was his role before. He puts on a bit of an act alot of the time yeah, but he was normally the voice of reason.
>>151216834I almost want Lucy to join the team just to see her race David. If she loses and James doesn't immediately lose interest then we'll know he was just being uniquely shitty to Mike. And if she wins we will have more definitive proof that Taeshi has dumped all her points into self-insert wish fulfillment.
>>151216834Taeshi is making a big mistake, the Lucyspace-9000 reactor is not stable and must be handled with care.Having James flip on a dime, ask if Lucy can run to replace Mike's spot on the team, blindly taking her word at it all while she's enjoying the attention from people she's repeatedly slighted at all previous interactions while Augustus gets his ass patted at another table filled with people that shouldn't know or like him has stalled the reactor.Comrade Taeshi, do you allow it to shut down and bring it up to power safely, or do you continue to haphazardly pull out control rods?
>>151217091I'll have to give that one some credit, Daisy is a coward flake that gets easily pushed to agree with the group. If it comes out Mike is now persona non cata she might renounce him much to Paulo's bafflement and then apologize to him on their lonesome because she felt too pressured to be on his side, which you know, it's something she's done before and many times, right Abbey?
>>151217052I like how, after some commenters voiced the notion that mayyyyybe the Mike torture has gone a bit far in some places, Taeshi is now offloading her transparent enthusiasm for the blood sport onto Lucy. Portraying herself as the rational and impartial creator who would just as readily visit the same level of punishment upon Lucy who is definitely not her fursona.
>>151216987>>151217050>>151217109Those are strange times indeed for fucking Paulo end up being the voice of reason in this comic; he, who was a douche and a jerk over and over in the past; he, who didn't hesitate to throw Mike under the bus in an attempt to win Lucy over.Troubled times are upon us
>>151216834I think James plays Sonic with one hand
>>151217099Mike keeps trying to apologize and care about Lucy's well-being despite how horrible she is. But at least he has the excuse of being gaslit to hell and back.
>>151217148We know she won't tho, Lucy can't stand losing so she won't risk it when she can get ass pats for it theorically
>>151216878>implying mike hasn't already decided to never show up againNot only is he seen as being worse than Hitler, he believes he is. James was his last lifeline and he got shit on by him. Whatever spine he had left has been obliterated.
>>151217108I doubt even Taeshi knows what the fuck everyone is talking about. Her most "explanation" makes very little sense based on either Mike or Lucy's character and reads like a poorly thought out rationalization. Kind of like how she couldn't settle on a coherent explanation for why Mike stuck with Sandy.
>>151216834This shit just makes me depressed
>>151217125How far are you winding the clock on that evaluation?
>>151217170Yeah, this is the part of the cycle when the author comments should now be considered "in jest :)" because surely she was just joking and actually doesn't approve of it actually
>>151217210Well like, >>151217195 said. Mike has been gaslighted to believe he is evil and deserves everything that is happening to him. If he got Jumped and kidnapped by Alej he might even belives he deserves it.
>>151216944I actually think she's TOO aware of criticism, if anything. Here's her having a normal one about people not liking her other self insert.
Mike was right
At this point I'd take the Paulo Show 2.0
>>151217169That sounds dangerously close to character consistency. Daisy *has* spoken up for Mike, on occasion, but the only examples I can recall are once back in Volume 1 when she was getting sick of how Paulo treated her and then later when drunk and uninhibited.
>>151217195I genuinely can't remember a moment where Lucy seemed to care about Mike's well-being in itself. It always cycles back in some way to "I CAN'T LOSE HIM!" and that's possession, not compassion.>>151217249>People were surprised that Madison wasn't a total bitch the one time I depicted her not being a total bitch after I'd drawn her doing literally nothing but seething about Paulo and Lucy.Imagine that.
>>151217277Oh believe you me anon, we need a villain now that Lucy and Augustus have been sanctified by pushing Mike into a corner. Grab the knife because it's time to finish him :)
>>151217249I believe she made that post before leaving the discord, i.e. hugbox central. If such basic observations about character traits and realistic outcomes get under her skin that badly, no wonder Taeshi left.
Do we have a comprehensive list of retcons?
>>151217288>I didn't care to ask at the timeDidn't she tell to herself "what the fuck is Mike even angry about? He better get over whatever it is so things can go back to normal (bullying him)"
>>151217288>I genuinely can't remember a moment where Lucy seemed to care about Mike's well-being in itselfPartway through December, Lucy finally accepted the idea of letting Mike go (romantically) if that made him happy. And I guess she felt bad for him during and right after Eternal Flame, though I consider both examples of ooc narrative convenience and discard them.
>>151217330Considering she still goes back to old pages to edit dialogue? Not feasible without autism
>>151217288>It always cycles back in some way to "I CAN'T LOSE HIM!" and that's possession, not compassion.This was back when that was mroe of a flaw but now it is treated more like the truth of Mike's existence.>"You were all that I had."Is very new, but Lucy has disregarded Mieks feelings before, and it's apt that he thinks she used him as a teddy bear. The comic now reaffirms that flaw as the truth. He is hers, "he owes her". All that psycho babble.The way it's going, Mike might be stripped of more of his will, and that might be treated like a good thing.
>>151217249>Too aware of criticism Suitcase filters the comments from everything for her, or don't TYou find it convenient how every ask she has replied to now that she's back on Tumblr lick her feet and agree with her before asking a very timid question about why she's doing what she does?
>>151216878God damn, is there an adult running the team? It would have been very unlikely a coach in 2008 would allow a girl on their all male team.
>>151217399We've seen neither hide nor hair of any coach for the track team.
>>151217349Nah, Eternal flame was very strong about Lucy's feelings, she wasn't worried or concerned about Mike, who was a crying mess the night before, nor did she want to question him or get a clear picture of why he'd take a cheater back. No, her reaction was instantly "but what about me", as many people have said she was only happy because Mike was free, not caring in what state he was
>>151217181Paulo's always been helping people with their relationships. He is a jerk, sure, just like Augustus, but unlike Augustus, who did literally nothing useful in his whole life, except calling ambulance once, Paulo mended Daisy and Abbey's relationship, assisted Matt at the birthday party and gave Mike a lot of valuable advice about Sandy.Sue wishes she had principles as strong as Paulo does, even though they are buried deep under the attitude, stupidity and retcons.
>>151217425I'm talking about how Lucy ended up comforting Mike after he hugged her and begged for help. Lucy looked genuinely conflicted. Then later at the start of Burnt Bridges, she reached out to Mike after seeing him all depressed and unresponsive, then went back to defensive bitch mode.
>>151217399>Adults mattering in BCB unless it's to torture the grey cat child
>>151217437>Paulo mended Daisy and Abbey's relationshipYeah, that wasn't a good thing. All he did was put a band-aid on it for Daisy's sake.
>>151217422Is the track team even real? Did James just wrangle his friends into his stalking schemes?
>>151217472They're a tool of narrative convenience and will surely turn their collective backs on Mike just as James did.
>>151216834> "I don't need you or any of your friends!"Hey guys, you might wanna go outside. Mike is hanging himself from the tree with his scarf. Guys? Hello?
AI, Lucy's benefitting from the torture the universe does at Mike's expense again. Break another arm.
>>151217422Git good.
>>151217437I get your point but he was the reason their relationship went to shit because he would not stop fucking with Abbey, and as per his own words he only made peace with him because it's what Daisy wanted but he never meant it
>>151217495So the statement stands, then.
>>151216834This webcomic is highly satanic because it features naked cat people and gays
>Veronica's psyche finally breaks in two after decades of the life she chose and she Awakens>the borough she lives in within NYC is instantly encased in a psychic barrier, trapping its residents within from all directions>a storm of power suddenly expands from her and for what feels like hours all she can sense is pain, panic, and the sound of reknitting flesh. She passes out>...........>a snap of fingers in front of her face brings her back to her senses>she's sitting at a lunch table in a high school cafeteria>the world is monochrome with thin lines superimposed on her vision, like she's viewing the world through a piece of college-ruled notebook paper>she looks down and sees white mitten hands>she looks at who the snapped fingers belongs to and sees a simple feline outline with grey fur and scarf >"Lucy, are you ok? You zoned out for a bit there">"yeah... Mike. I'm fine."
>>151217482What a horrible Truman Show hell scape Mike lives in.
>>151216856>Taeshi you promised it was her turn! When is it her turn!Anon, I promise you the "Lucy torture" won't turn out to be a good thing now matter how great that sounds
>>151217495What, the coach spying on the girls' locker room? Shouldn't he be watching practice or some shit?
>>151217519that's based
>>151217450That page was so stupid>Look, Mike's empty-eyed and sad, just like Lucy before she jumped!>And Lucy's noticed>and didn't do anything or say anything to anyone>actually she only really cares that Mike won't date herWhat the fuck
>>151217535Taeshi will pretend adults don't exist until she absolutely has to acknowledge their presence for the world to make some sense.
>next page is the WIPMaulo hours at last
>>151217527It will be the gentlest slap that Taeshi can bare to muster against her precious fursona/ego extension. We will be told it is incredibly impactful and that Lucy suffered horribly, despite all evidence. Taeshi, with her usual degree of wisdom, will instead demonstrate that Lucy is a fragile little snowflake who cannot deal with any amount of stress.
>>151217567>has to acknowledge their presence for the world to make some sense.Not really. The minute Mike shoved Augustus or Lucy kicked Mike in the gut woulda have caused an adult to materialise or someone to be trying to record this on their shitty 2008 phones
>>151217330not as far as i'm aware, but the big ones are Augustus attempting to date-rape daisy and getting foiled by abbey getting retconned via bci into an attempt at a romantic kiss that would never have gone further once taeshi decided he was going to be Lucy's best friend instead of just a minor antagonist, Paulo x Lucy being the main ship for a while, then it later getting retconned into her never being into him via ferris wheel monologue and the removal of the chapter showing an alternate path where they end up together after a pregnancy scare from the main archive and Mike x Lucy originally being a lighthearted tsundere romance, then later being retconned into Mike being physically bullied for years via the insertion of a flashback of him limping and bleeding while his girlfriend sobs and begs him to ask an adult for help, then retconned to Mike actually being the problem for leading Lucy on despite having a girlfriend and then turning her down via literally editing dialogue from previous chapters to have him lead her on more as well as reiterating the perspective through eternal flame. there's also Sandy's abrupt change in personality from model girlfriend onwards, but that isn't a retcon imo because she hadn't shown up in a while and teenagers can have large personality shifts like that.
>>151217527We have been living the consequences of one moment of Lucy torture for a decade and everyone and everything is mutated by the fallout
>>151217574We're going to make itabout half way before drowning anyway
>>151217551The whole scenario was extremely forced. Why the fuck would Mike expect everything to go back to normal between him and Sandy? It doesn't line up with what Mike told Augustus during Double down, the temporary chapter explaining why Mike got back together with Sandy, or how he behaved afterward.
>>151217590Emphasis on "some sense". If this comic made any sense nobody but whoever was trying to fuck Lucy would give a shit about her because she's such a bitch.
>>151217501Abby was a bitch and had it coming most the time.
>>151216932the event horizon will come for us all
>>151217608Don't cry because the building will collapse on you, smile because the sun will shine on your face as it does
>>151217625Ok, doesn't excuse Paulo from being a bigger bitch
>>151217437he did also spend years calling Mike a fag for wearing a scarf and occasionally beat him up. it got abruptly forgotten about when paulo went bi but it still happened
>>151216944Confirmed also>paulo immediately more concerned about mike than giving the slightest shit about lucyPaulobros... our time is now
>>151216968>isn't cross country not co-edcorrect, and neither is track and field
>>151217596Even retconing this i tupid since it emans Lucy held ontio a gradeschool/middle school promise and expecte dit to hold despite treating the guy like shit.The reason in anime these kinda promises can work is cause there are a lot of good moments implied between the CH and MC before she is made to be out of his life. Lucy did the exact opposite by playing hot and cold. Retconning it now makes Lucy attempt to justify beating her childhood friend bloody and limping cause of a little promise she never bothered to try and fulfill until he tried/did to find love elsewhere.
>>151217236back to the OG doodles and a bit after having his heart toyed with by bitch and the surprisingly wholesome slut dog.
>>151217249>!??!?!?!? >??>????This is the typing style of a crazy bitch
>>151217590this page edit will never not make me laugh because it's proof that Lucy has only gotten away with so much because of the grace everyone gives her for being a young woman. The second Luke started down the same path she did he would lose most of his friends immediately and get his name put on a global shit list for the entire schooL, ESPECIALLY after he fucking piston kicks a girl in the stomach for calling him out on months of shitty behavior
>>151217596>picSomehow a big change while also being minor and petty. Like it's the opposite of what he said, but am I now supposed to be mad at him for not literally waiting indefinitely? Did you see what it took for Lucy to be "ready"? Baffling.
>>151217612I don't think he was sad because he expected that but because he forced himself into the relationship out of guilt because Sandy, somehow, defying sense, fucked up part of her career and fired Francis within hours of dumping him just to make more time for him, despite the reason she didnt talk to him often being she was ghosting him, and he felt she deserved that second chance despite it fucking him over. Taeshi really fucked up by making him nonchalantly walk into the classroom with his phone out just for this one chapter, like done on purpose to piss Lucy off
>>151217596>Veronica: I mean.. they’re both twelve at this time. I don’t think twelve-year-olds are often ready for relationships..>And given Mike and Lucy’s history, I’m sure she had multiple reasons to reject him at the time. She just wasn’t ready!! You can’t really force her!!! Would be really awful!!>“I can wait ’til you’re ready” >HMMMMMMMMMMM..Yes Taeshi, Lucy's too young for a relationship but Mike's was practically engaged to her after saying that. Whatever you say.
>>151217596worst retcon ever. No way this was not meant to screw Mike over.
>>151217709Its funny because its partly Lucy's fault. She was the one who suggested to back up and review things kek
>>151217664Naw, Paulo was a bitch back then. He occasionally called out a truth but was otherwise busy enough being his own brand of idiot.
>>151217655I don't trust it. He's rejected Lucy, called her a bitch behind her back, then caved because she cried some crocodile tears during Witch Hunt (it probably helped he was so annoyed with Mike at the time, but still). It's so easy for him to win her back and the comic is not shy about punching holes in reality with Lucyspace.
>>151217740>No way this was not meant to screw Mike over.Yes, it was meant to shift the blame for things not going Lucy's way from her to Mike. Like>>151217735 says, it is still fucking insane.She really doesnt want Lucy to have any blame or feel anything from her own actions. Lucy is not the MC; she is a prop. Mke is the MC.
>>151216985She's hot. Where from?
>>151217709Mike specifically wondered why things weren't going back to normal and why he felt bad during his borderline breakdown during that chapter. I appreciate your version more but that's because it actually makes sense where the canon doesn't.
>>151217740I think this edit was made before Taeshi went off the deep end. She thought, at the time, that the original line wasn't something a kid would say.
>>151217746I mean, all Lucy had to do was let Mike follow her outside the school where they were alone and ask him to explain himself immediately if he didn't want her to stop talking to him ever again, and after that maybe she could see maybe using the suicide attempt to torture him since she came back wasn't such a good idea, and see he had no love for Sandy anymore, and was in a position where she could make amends for some of the things she did to him, just some support But we are not allowed to have actual character growth for Lucy, so victimizing it is!
>>151217596>original page had Mike basically telling Lucy that she'll need to figure herself out at some point and that no promises can be made until that happens>edit makes it seems like Mike was devoted to her from day one and was willing to wait until Lucy decided she wanted him for real, painting him in a worse light in the present dayIsn't changing the past to fit the present Literally 1984(tm)?
>>151217748Yes but back then it felt like an actual kid so it didnt bother me much.
>>151217833>Taeshi takes the narratively convenient route>Makes Lucy look all the worse as a character>refuses to acknowledge that and dumps all blame on Mike's shoulders via insane demands
>>151217596I think she must really regret the domestic violence flashback. Lucy hitting mike could easily have been brushed off as a vestigial slapstick element, similar to Paulo constantly touching Lucy inappropriately in the early days of the comic, which has never been acknowledged. As it is, it makes Lucy 100% the bad guy, which is a problem because Taeshi now wants Mike to be the bad guy, but she can't just retcon the scene out of existence because its way too memorable.
>>151217835I think it makes Lucy look worse. Mike's a kid. Holding him to that decision no matter what is insane whereas Lucy failed to capitalize on his obvious interest thanks to her (and Taeshi's) insane hangups. Now they're both blaming Mike for not devoting his entire life to Lucy, as if that was some obligation and he cannot consider himself a good person otherwise. Fucking insanity.
>>151217835Yep. and if you point that out she or her broken man will ban you from the forums.Not that thats a bad thing. Fuck i remember when they had their own art booru and times were good until the purge.
>>151217877Would an adult have taken a girl like Lucy hitting Mike seriously? Not trolling, I'm curious.
>>151217902Back when Taeshi's writing was arguably at its most rational, despite her impending mental breakdown? Yeah, probably.
>>151217877This
>>151217877Exactly this.Luxy was objectively an abusive cunt.
>>151217902Once or twice? Probably not. Constantly as they did? Possibly, no matter how jaded you are as a teacher violence can easily escalate to the school being sued for not intervening, and if there's something staff should know is there's no fury like a mother
>>151217902If it was light, playful slaps, no. But lucy straight up kicked, punched, and tormented the guy so yeah it should have been.
>>151217877>tsundere tendencies are a sign of real developmental issuesThis was the only cool things this comic ever did and they squandered it by falling back into the anime tropes they were deconstructing
>>151217437>Paulo mended Daisy and Abbey's relationshipBy gaslighting and shoving around Abbey until he caved and took back Daisy, who didn't love him.>assisted Matt at the birthday partBy sexually harassing Lucy's younger brother in the bathroom.>gave Mike a lot of valuable advice about SandyTrue, but he was also Mike's biggest shit-talker.Paulo does care about his friends, but he's also a dumb dick and his "help" is often worse than nothing.
>>151217955I mean, fuck man, this shit started daycare level, you think someone would have been concerned one of the toddlers kept going feral on another and get the parents involved, which funny enough I guess makes sense since Lucy's mom has shown being very awful at handling her daughter
>>15121799Jordan is older than Lucy, somehow.
>>151217877Another thing to add is that you can't say>it wasn't as bad as people make it out to be because she only did it out of lovesince she was equally violent with everyone. Also doesn't help that she was actively taking martial arts classes which should have taught her day one that the techniques are for self defense only
>>151217989>like i still need your helpLucy was helpful to Mike like once in his entire life, shortly after Sandy left. Twice, counting them saving each other's asses during Confrontation.
>>151217787outer space
>>151217989Something about this panel is hilarious to me. The facial expression and the arms gripping her shoulders.
>>151217992Based on what Mike told Sandy, he's never brought it up to any adults. A better comic would portray this as a result of Mike not wanting to worry his mom and then developing a complex about it.
>>151218054>>it wasn't as bad as people make it out to be because she only did it out of loveDoing shit like that out of love would make it worse. It makes it sound like Lucy can't handle intimacy and would hurt others who try to get close to her.Which she does do.
>>151217877she could legit do the easiest thing in the world by having lucy admit she was wrong for doing so and promising to never do it again.
>>151217992Lucy spent her entire kindergarten year refusing to play with the other kids because she got rejected twice. Realistically she'd have gotten flagged as someone to potentially put in special ed for being so persistently anti-social, it's not like kindergarten teachers don't try to force kids to be friends at recess.>>151217835Maybe I'm retarded but I think "bye" would be the best option. Both versions center Lucy for some reason, but if Mike's slinking away on the verge of tears then why would he be saying anything more than that? The flat finality of "Mike offered, you said no." would be way more kino.
>>151217989tsundere ≠ beating the shit out of love interest
>>151217989this was back when the art was decent. What happened?
>>151218065>Aww fuck. Is this that consequences thing people keep talking about?
>>151218065Mike with his BIG, MEATY HANDS manhandling Lucy
>>151218054in fairness she usually hit paulo in retaliation to him touching her breasts or ass, which would be self defence and also another thing the school should have definitely put a stop to
>>151217990> and his "help" is often worse than nothingNot always his fault. Whenever he tries to help Mike, the sad cat usually diverts the consversation or simply ignores the advise. I just hope that Paulo's going to be more assertive this time.
Will Vera deliver on the promise of equal Lucy suffering in future chapters?
>>151217902I grew up with a girl like Lucy as my parents fostered children. She had a pretty fucking horrific home life that almost justified her violent nature. We're talking levels, severity and frequency of abuse not possible until her parents were locked up and she was put in my parents care. This girl punched, kicked, slapped, bit, scratched, spat, threw things, broke things, screeched at the top of her voice all hours. It was pretty challenging for my parents and it turned out that some chucklefuck had bungled her paperwork and she was supposed to go to a specialized family that had training and experience on how to deal with cases like her, but my mom being my mom she decided to keep her and do the training on the fly because pushing her out would have done a lot more harm than good. So I reluctantly chose to just accept her and help her no matter what because she was, for all intents and purposes, my foster sister and she deserved to be loved even if her shitbag parents had turned her into a terror.My parents put up with her violent outbursts and screaming/crying/yelling to an extent, but my god their patience was worn paper thin. I remember looking out of my bedroom window at 3am and seeing my mom sitting outside weeping because this was the 3rd night none of us had gotten any sleep thanks to this girl. My dad would get some reprieve as he could go to work and get a few hours of sanity but my mom was stuck with this girl 24-7. Schools wouldn't touch her, hell even child psychologists would only last 4-5 appointments before they threw in the towel until we found one that wouldn't.I also remember my dad actually losing his shit because she picked up her dinner plate and flung it at the window smashing it. He stood up, picked her up by the arm, dragged her to her bedroom and pushed her in and then stood smoking with his back to the bedroom door whilst she banged on it and screamed and smashed things inside. It was fucking insane.
>>151218143I mean kindergarten is literally "learn by playing", having the one kid sitting and frowning because she doesn't want to play with anyone else would have been an immediate problem to attend to, but I guess that and internal damage and psychological observation are not needed when you're Lucy
>>151218055Lucy was helpful more often than that. She comforted/reassured Mike about Sandy a few times both before and after Tess sat him down and explained what a girlfriend was, she helped him navigate when they went on trips around town, Mike and Lucy played defense for each other against Paulo's attempts to beat/SA them, and she routinely helped him cheat in class and on tests.Doesn't make up for her constantly smacking people around and picking fights, though.
>>151218206>equal Lucy sufferingOf course not. We're talking about TEN. FUCKING. YEARS. of Mike torture pornAt best you'll get "I'M SAD, WOE IS ME' moment
>>151218206
>>151218187I like to imagine the next panel is her being sent flying through a wall.
>>151218206Either it won't be near the same level of shit mike has been getting or she will get the same level but a follow up "FEEL BAD FOR LUCY!" right after.No way she's gonna hit her with over ten years of being shit on like she did Mike
>>151218206She can't. It'll all be self-inflicted despite all the support she gets from everyone around her so it'll come out looking like she is a spoiled little psychobitch.Unless like, idk Alejandro actually shows up and does something but I doubt it. Both her and Aug getting rushed on the way home after what they pulled today would be just desserts.
>>151218065I swar to god if THIS is the reason Lucy has PTSD, the mment before facing the truth... and not because Alejandro tried to RAPE her
>>151218210where is your sister now anon? Did she turn out ok? Was she fostered as a child or was she already a teenager when you took her in?
>>151217422>>151217517>didn't read the literal "Track Meet" chapter, Chapter 115, Page 19, coach clearly in top left cornerHow about you actually read the fucking comic before making these sarcastic fucking posts next time dipshitKill yourself
>>151218065getting alejandro ptsd flasbacks
>>151218248This but Lucy?
>>151218210geez
>Paulo worried about MikeFINALLY SOMETHING WORTH READING ON FORI LOVE CUTE BOYS HUGGING AND CRYING
>>151218254I can see Lucy having to face the consequences of her actions and everyone hugging and comforting her (until it was their turn carrying the shackle that is Lucy's scorn)
>>151218150To be fair, It is fairly common for tsuderes to hit their love interests (think of the whole 'I-it's not I like y-you or anything!...baka!' scthick, where they'll typically hit their love interest after saying that).
>>151217768I want to believe in Polo redemption
>>151218210Lucy didn't have neglectful parents, just lax ones. All she needed was one or the other to notice their daughter's behavior and be aware enough as a parent to know they needed to shut that shit down immediately. These kids have been friends for so long, do none of their parents know each other? Surely one of the friends would have told their parents and then their parents told other parents, etc
>>151218322Hey, what's that behind Paulo?
>>151218201Granted, Mike is basically impossible to help because he refuses to admit he has problems. If anything Paulo's reflexive dickishness is actually useful in Mike's case, because it's the only form of help that Mike will (sometimes) accept.I just don't think Paulo can be described as "principled". Caring, sure, and if things get dire enough for him to lock in he's very ride-or-die. But he's also a thoughtless prick who's super unreliable on basic stuff like "don't deliberately upset your friends" and "don't be a creepy sex pervert".>>151218065I read Lucy's expression there as>despair but also arousal
>>151218143honestly i was my primary school's lucy and nothing was done
Honestly, Mike suicide arc might not even be real. We're talking about a BPD author after all, they tend to act on a whim, barely able to construct long term plans and only when on meds, this ain't autism.It would be hilarious if this were yet another suicide attempt by Lucy, but this time a depressed Mike saves her.
>>151218272She's 24 and lives down the street from my parents, has a job and is in community college. We took her in when she was 9 and she had her 10th birthday a few months in. I'd say it took about 6 months before my parents saw even the slightest improvements and I have a scar on my arm where she slashed me with a dinner knife around 10 months in, almost no provocation at all. She wound up with a pretty swollen black eye and a bump on the back of her head for that one. I was only 11 myself and I thought if I didn't stop her she'd try and stab me next. This was over me getting the last of the orange juice that she wanted. I have a ton of stories like that. I did my best not to get violent but self-defence was the exception. She thought twice about it afterwards.She's never spoken to her parents since the day CPS picked her up. Comically they're both still in prison. One murdered a fellow inmate and got life with no parole, the other managed a week before stealing a car and smashing it into a hair salon trying to flee police.
>>151218279The reason people say stuff like that, even if you see the adult, is because the adults don't affect shit. Taeshi skips over every time they could have an impact or effect.Mike gets into the track team solely on James's say so. We skip him at school going to sign up, we skip try-outs or anything like that. James just says join and he's in.James drags David in, again with no try outs or anything. David acts like a clown and there's no coach to tell him to get serious.James hijacks practice to cry about his relationship to Felix, again, coach doesn't say shit.The adults exist in theory and manifest as spirits every so often, but they never actually do anything. This coach has no control over what his team does during practice, Taeshi just draws him to remind us that yes he should theoretically be there, but really these kids are fucking around unsupervised and doing the usual teen drama shit when they shouldn't be.
>>151218279>/bcb/ bitches endlessly about a comic they don't read It's funny how something like this happens in almost every thread but not once does it inspire people to actually read the fucking comic they dedicate three days a week talking about.
>>151218309Now Mike physically launching Lucy out of his bedroom window and into the snow outside in a fit of unwarranted vindictive rage where she almost breaks her neck is something I can see causing Lucy the amount of emotional and physical and mental distress warranting a stay in a psyche hospital and causing Mike to get shit on for ten years while desperately trying to apologize. It's something that he directly did and directly caused harm to Lucy that should not be forgotten or forgiven without a lot of time passing.
>>151218548You think I'd waste my time actually reading the insane amount of BPD garbage Taeshi puts out? pass.
>>151218442Mike's main problem is that someone he said mean things to tried to kill herself, and he understandably doesn't know how to talk about that to anyone because he thinks they'll never look at him the same again. His current situation is what zero unconditional love does to a motherfucker.Hopefully Paulo comes through for him.
>>151217574do not poison me with hope, anon>>151217608>>151217630it's gonna be cloudy and raining and you know it
>>151217989There are better written anime and manga that deconstruct everything Taeshi was trying to do better. One of them is even a harem of 100 people.
>>151218442> PauloSexuallyAssaultsLucysLittleBrotherInAPublicRestroom.png> LucysLittleBrotherCongrats, you made Jordan seethe.> Caring, sure, and if things get dire enough for him to lock in he's very ride-or-die. But he's also a thoughtless prick who's super unreliable on basic stuff like "don't deliberately upset your friends" and "don't be a creepy sex pervert".That's a good assesment. I can agree with this.
>>151218254Mike also got follow-up "Feel bad for Mike!" bits after his designated dick flattening sessions. It's just it was always "Sandy's ghosting me :(", so it won him no sympathy with the readers, because most of us don't share Taeshi's particular brand of insanity where not receiving enough attention from your crush/S.O. is literally the worst thing that can happen to a person and makes them sympathetic no matter what they do.
>>151218248This but Mike choking Lucy, erotic asphyxiation and all that
>>151218210I'm so sorry to hear that. I really hope she got the appropriate help she needed. Lucy's parents are permissive on the other hand, never acknowledging that she's abusive.
>>151218548Its hard to remember specific moments even after reading it start to finish since there's entire filler chapters that do nothing but give taeshi breathing room to finish her backlog, character development that starts and stops on a dime, and retcons to old pages that change details to support whatever the current narrative is
>>151216944Does James retain the Rocky face?
>>151218604Eh. Her case file was fuuuuuucked. Her parents were monsters. She once showed me the scars on her inner thighs where her mom and dad put cigarettes out on her. Both of them did it. She also has a pretty gnarly scar on her scalp from where her dad threw her into a wall and, sadly, other more fucked up things.She didn't open up to me at all until maybe around 2 years in. She saw me as a rival and she saw herself as lesser because I was my parents "real" kid. It took me getting my ass beaten black and blue defending her for scratching some dipshits car with a quarter for her to actually recognize that I saw her as a little sister. It was also the last time she destroyed property. When I say my ass was beaten black and blue. I mean it. The guy literally kicked the shit out of my ribs and stomped on my head. I was really fucking lucky I got away with bruising (a lot of internal bruising.) broken bones and a concussion. It could have been a lot worse.
>>151218586Maybe I'm just mentally ill in the same way as Taeshi but I think his misery was pretty understandable. When he's not in his douchebag arc he's very open about his feelings with others and clearly wants others to be the same way with him. Everyone was giving him shit about his long-disrance girlfriend being stupid a fake and telling him how stupid he was for choosing her over Lucy, and even as he defended her she was ghosting him.The most excruciating thing about this comic is that Mike is shown to be incredibly sweet by nature but is perpetually trapped in a situation that brings out the worst of him at all times.
>>151218737Yeah
>>151218767Jesus christ, dude. So how is she nowadays, then? How's your relationship?
>>151218767were you two ride or die after that
>>151218579You got any recommendations?
>>151217332Nah, Zach clued her in so she knows why Mike is upset but I guess Lucy's insane so she's now raving>MIKE YOU POS, HOW COULD YOU GET MY HOPES UP LIKE THAT>I TREATED YOU LIKE GARBAGE FOR YEARS AND YOU WERE STILL NICE TO ME>HOW COULD YOU STRING ME ALONG!?
Are we being too harsh to Lucy? She never wanted any of this to happen after all
It's nice to see fags (and women) here discussing Polo, as if he was yet another attempt at gaybaiting homo relationship with Mike, which will never happen
Oh wow, the trash thread's still up.Anyways, remember that Lucy canonically HATES being respected and cherished.She just wants to be shoved down and bounced like a living onahole
>>151218850It took her about 3 years, a shitload of therapy and a lot of relentless love from my parents to get somewhere close to normal. She had missed a shitload of school at that point and she had crippling insecurities and an inferiority complex that was staggering. We're talking about a girl who was 13 and struggled with even the most basic writing structure and math. If you got her to sit with you and look at a simple math problem, for example, 30 x 80, she would get angry and have an outburst because she thought she was too stupid to get it right and didn't even try. Once she just teared up and raised her fist to hit me and when I gave her that "I'm just trying to help you" look she burst into tears and clung to me sobbing that she was stupid and worthless and she should just die. On the flip of that I remember sitting with her and actually getting her to work out 20 x 20 and I could see how much her brain churned when conceptualizing "oh it's just 2x2 and then add the two zeros at the end" and the look of glee on her face when I told her she had gotten it right made evenings like that worth it. I took her from practically nothing to acing algebra and got her into reading (with the help of comic books. The ones she hadn't set fire to, but that's another story.).Our relationship is great. It's like I've always been her big brother. I don't know what having a "real" little sister is like but I can't imagine it's much different to how she is now. Hasn't raised a fist to me since we were kids and very obviously loves me like a normal sibling would.
>>151218998Were the lineart/watercolor days peakBCB?
>>151219061Yes
>>151216834Lucy is going to turn him straight.
>>151218309Yup, that'll do anon.
>>151219055unironically she does.
>>151218795>The most excruciating thing about this comic is that Mike is shown to be incredibly sweet by nature but is perpetually trapped in a situation that brings out the worst of him at all times.I know that Mike is objectively a pussy and not really innocent, but the way Taeshi treats him narratively is hilarious because it's an accurate reflection of how women feel about the socially inept. There is literally nothing women hate more than social ineptitude, you can be a literal psycho rapist and the average gynoid will feel safer around you than a sperg (see: augustus).
>>151219055There's two things that jump out to me about this image.1: Abbey deserves so much better than Lucy holy shit it's not even close.and 2: Taeshi is flubbing the scaling again, because the tips of Lucy's ears are below Abbey's shoulder in the comic.
>>151219055Pretty much.
>>151218392RUN POLO
>>151219055Lucy is for rape and enslavement
>>151218911Hah. I was hospitalized so I didn't get to see her for a week after. The first thing she did when my dad wheeled me through the front door was cry and run to her room and it was LOUD crying. my legs and arms were in casts, I had a neck brace, my head was wrapped in bandages, I couldn't even get up to take a shit or piss and needed my parents help. I remember her coming into my room that night once my parents had gone to sleep and weeping quietly next to my bed saying "I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I didn't mean for it to happen! I'm sorry!" and hugging me. It was the first time she had EVER shown me any affection at all. It hurt like fuck but I didn't want to discourage her so I let it go on for a moment before wincing. When she pulled away she asked if I hated her and I told her of course not. She was my little sister and got her to put her hand in the one not casted up and squeezed her palm. She just started wailing after that, my mom had to come and get her and put her back to bed. After that ordeal she was a lot softer towards me.
LEAKANON give us something
>>151219214One day Mike will snap and claim her as the first of his harem
>>151219265>>151216944
>>151218442>I just don't think Paulo can be described as "principled"honestly besides the resets his behavior is some of the closest to justified (narratively - i don't mean he's right to do all of it) in all of BCB's speaking characters. i get that some anons really don't like him, but a kid struggling to figure himself out and not knowing how to handle getting any kind of support from people is hardly the last kind of kid you'd expect to lash out.i see his dickishness as a smokescreen, as what he thinks confidence looks like because he doesn't have proper models for it. i think he's ultimately a good person, and if this was anything else i'd expect him to solidly land in that category permanently.but BCB isn't anything else.>>151218322hell yeah
>>151219265James isn't recruiting Lucy for the track team, he wants her for a bestie.
>>151219286We're low effort to the point of sharing the page we had since September. Did Suitcase take your patreon?
>>151219307Did Taeshi get tired of SANDY BAD and is flipping to make him some kind of ultra-manipulative psycho?He had one interaction with her prior to this, and she was a cunt, then she kicks Mike in the gut and he thinks she's the greatest thing on the planet?I swear Taeshi is setting him up to be some great evil, the whiplash is too great.
>>151219307They're already hanging out, I'd like to know what James is telling Paulo.
>>151219059>>151219243Wholesome as fuck. Props to you and your parents, anon, I think most other people would have given up on her. Takes some mental fortitude to do what you've done.
>>151219372Since Suitcase is looking for leakers again I'll paraphrase. James says "Fuck Mike, I don't give a shit."
>>151219243>>151219059was not expecting this rollercoaster to end this waythat's sweet as fuckgoddammit anon you made me actually tear up
>>151217596>picrelThis change was made in light of criticism of younger children speaking like adults.
>>151219395Thanks. Does Paulo say anything first, like "What happened to Mike?" Paulo used to be my least favorite, but Mike took on his sperg role. I would say me liking Paulo is growing up, but it has more to do with hating every other character.
So how long till the entire EF gets retconned?
>>151219451Temporal fluctuations this close to the event horizon of Lucyspace make accurate time predictions impossible.
>>151219451It doesn't, Mucy is endgame. They'll be back together the moment Suitcase gives her dick, so a couple years.
>>151218795It's understandable if you give Taeshi the benefit of the doubt and assume Mike's irritability is a result of being stressed by Lucy's return. Taeshi avoids thought bubbles and narration like the plague, so in the comic as-is Mike just kind of decides to be an asshole sometimes and his reasons are left vague.I resent the "Sandy is ghosting/cheating Mike and he's mad" plotline, because not only is it a transparent attempt to drag Mike back over to being interested in Lucy, it's botched in at least 3 ways:>Several chapters showing Sandy calling/texting Mike AND it being established way back when that she's the more reliable communicator of the two>The uneven pacing and timescale making it unclear how (in)frequent Sandy's calls and Mike's outbursts are>No explanation or context given to Sandy's story, meaning it feels extremely sudden and artificialLike, I'm not wishing Taeshi had devoted several chapters to an NTR story of Sandy getting seduced, but a little more than "my hairdresser is nice" was needed to explain the shift.
>>151218130Lucy's talked herself into believing she was right to abuse Mike, because it was meant to dissuade him from wickedness.
>>151219307I swear we're thiiiis close to Lucyspace just being directly confirmed as canon. I don't know, maybe this is supposed to be him mindlessly mirroring David.
>>151219055What does it mean for me when I look at this picture and I want this dynamic...?
>>151219428It goes like>James: You like running? I like running let's be friends>Lucy: ok>Paulo: Where Mike?>James: Fuck him.Gotta say James turning out to be the male Lucy instead of the male Daisy was an unexpected and horrible twist
>>151218158Taeshi used to engage with the community, which was not curated to be full of braindead yes-men, so she had some external standards to meet.
>>151217596Why read a comic when the crazy author changes the old pages to fit her current, insane vision?
>>151219557It's cute until you reproduce.
>>151218206What, and risk sending herself to the loony bin again? Actually, that would be interesting. Taeshi may be, much like Lucy, delusional enough to believe she's developed the mental fortitude to withstand such pressures a second time around. But I'd expect her to cut and run the moment things started getting hard, or else spiral into demented BPD-driven absurdity and wreck the comic.
>>151219361Not some great evil, but she did set up him being a fickle asshole who changes his mind extremely quickly. The other track members don't seem to respect him too much and view him at fault for his break up with Felix. He only seemed like the leader because he was the most outgoing and most relevant of them.
>>151218279>Kill yourselfYou first, spaz.
>>151219550Lucy is an eldritch abomination with mind-bending powers, there's no other good explanation for this shitshow
>>151219569I wouldn't even want to interact with Taeshi. They had a single person who was pro-Mike in the patreon comments two pages back, and Taeshi banned him for being problematic.
>Mike, you must listen to me, I can only be in this realm for a short time before all the relationship gossip in the air leaves me insensate. Oh, and before Lucy's subconscious notices me and pushes me out. >Listen, and listen well. There is no future for you here.>No matter what you do, the people you meet, the goals you may pursue. It will all turn into ash as soon as you grasp even a bit of happiness. Because you've earned the eternal wrath of the Demiurge, Mike, and she will never. Let. It. Go.>So long as you remain in this world, Her world, only misery and ruin awaits you. Your only hope is to get ŏ̷̳ū̶̗ṯ̷̈.>I cannot help you, only you can help yourself. You must see beyond the veil and understand that her world is not YOUR wold, that the door has always been open and you can simply walk away from this ecuadorian loony bin.>Only when you realize that you've been asleep all this time will you be able to open your eyes and wake up>Wake up...>Wake up...>Wake up...>Wake...>Up...
>>151218442What should have led Mike to trust Paulo's judgement on matters in the first place?
>>151219377My parents are saints. Good people through and through. The type of people that would genuinely give you the shirt off their back if they thought it'd help you. They took a severely damaged child and not only gave her comfort but helped heal her and make a place for her. I can't imagine what she might have been like had she not wound up with my parents. Specialized foster homes are not happy places. They're basically barracks for kids with behavioural issues and many don't go on to lead productive or happy lives. My mom knew that and decided to spare her that given that she'd already been through more misery than some get in a lifetime. I can tell they regretted it here and there and they sacrificed a lot to put her straight but seeing her happy makes it all worth it to them.>>151219406Buddy. There were lots of moments like that. I remember her coming back to my car after collecting her GED. I asked her how she did and she smiled, her cheeks flushed, her face wobbled and she threw her arms around my neck and started crying and whispered "Thank you. I'd never have gotten here without you. I love you anon. Thank you so much for believing in me." and not letting me go for a good 5 minutes. Her entire body was shaking. She never believed she would ever pass. She only tried because I kept telling her I believed in her and that I knew she could do it. We'd spent hours and hours at it for years but we caught her right up. She passed at 19 which is seriously impressive considering she hardly ever went to school before 13 and struggled with the most basic Math and English and could barely read when I met her. I smile whenever I think about that moment.One of the more tender moments between us was off the back of that ass kicking whilst I was still healing. That's when I saw her burns and scars.
>>151219307Kek dumbass doesn't know what he's asking. Retard is basically asking to be subjected to torture
>>151219557You have never cohabited with a partner
>>151218480I think what we're seeing is the result of mixing ancient dusty plot points Taeshi roughly mapped out literally decades ago with her more recent impulsive writing choices. Or in other words, forced bullshit to make up for the fact she's neglected the basic narrative legwork required to get here organically.
>No James isn't a hypocritical asshole, emotional cheating is totally different from attempted homewrecking>And he isn't a cunt who turned on Mike for no reason, he... uh... must have had a guy who strung him along in the past so once burnt twice shy!I wonder how many of the patreoniggers are on Taeshi's private discord, there's been synchronized copium huffing recently.
>>151218548Sure, if you ignore the vast majority of material that is accurately remembered and zero in on the odd mistake here and there. But that would be silly and easily pointed at as kind of sad.
>>151219557If you want to be on the left, it means you don't value yourself enough. It won't be healthy, and you will waste your affection on someone who won't ever reciprocate. You should find someone kinder, because you deserve better than this.If you want to be on the right, it means you want affection but you are unwilling to reciprocate it. You want to be an emotional parasite, an entitled glutton for praise you have not earned and will never earn. You do not deserve the unreserved kindness you demand. You will make the lives of everyone around you worse by your presence. Whatever love you consume to try and fill the gaping hole where your soul should be is love that should have gone to a better person. The world is worse with you in it.
>>151219746>Zootopia scat fetishist calling anyone sadLmao
>>151219307James is a fickle bitch, news at eleven. I can't wait for his track team buddies to tear him a new asshole.Unrelated but I'd been reading the old chapters that had been recolored in nicer and more pleasing palettes, and realized that even the coloring/color choices have stagnated past the initial transition to the current art style. Just me?
>>151219307So it's absolutely disgusting but not quite so bad as everyone feared. Once again, James is confirmed to have just the worst taste and no common sense at all. If Mike should feel insulted about anything, it's James replacing him with Lucy of all people.
>>151219307Oh. That's worse
>>151219033I dont give a shit who he fucks I just want him to choose mike over lucy, for both Mike's sake and his
>>151219558I can't help but notice how Lucy's most enthusiastic dickriders tend to also be the worst characters.
>>151219451She had her chance, maybe the next time some other webcomic hosting site becomes popular and Suit gets off his ass
>>151219704That would be interesting, James getting to learn firsthand just how awful Lucy can get and how rushed his judgement of Mike turned out to be.
>>151219662>This is not a dream>Our technology is not developed enough to reach your conscious mind>But this is not a dream
>>151219558Did you know Taeshi meant for James to be popular and well liked with her readers?
>>151219662>>151219915i now badly need a "Lucyspace is real" AU fic
>>151219919I figured when Taeshi started passive aggressively sniping at how everyone but the innermost circle hate James now.
>>151219852Eh, everyone wants Lucy to be their best friend because she has some unidentified superficial charm. Which is probably the polar opposite of Taeshi's own high school experience.
>>151219919If that's true, then I doubt her thought process went much further than>i will repeat anti-Mike talking points my readers have repeatedly made>James will agree with them>therefore my readers will love JamesPic related when it didn't work.
>>151219307But why? This is like the shit with Sue, but that at least makes some sense with how she is. James is just retarded.
>>151219723I guess there's a point where even the most fervent follower can realize that there's more spite than justice in Mike's treatment, and the cracks have been showing this arc, what with the cult actually despising James and the fights in the Patreon comments with people pissed off while Taeshi doubles down in defending her fursona's actions
>>151219557Look, anon, I unironically like "bitchy" women. But there's a world of difference between a girl who's outspoken and opinionated, and one who reacts to affection with knee-jerk irritation and disdain.A relationship between one party who's kind/withdrawn and another who's more cynical/direct can be healthy and even cute. But that's not what that picture shows.
>>151219644To be fair, he was being incredibly aggressive about it in a place other than 4chan. He'd probably get banned no matter his stance.
>>151219919He is, just not with us. The others adore him and think Mike bad.
>>151219723I still don't understand how this stringing along shit is supposed to work in terms of Mike.
>>151219933Yeah but I mean it's worse in the sense that you could excuse him wanting her based on utility and only hanging around for David, but this just turns in into an outright dickrider and basically David 2.0
>>151218322/ourprotagonist/ will rise again trust the plan fellow polotards
>>151220024Really? Because I was under the impression even the cult despised him after "dodged a bullet" and "I feel sorry for your girlfriend". Like I get "Mike Bad" but he doesn't get Lucyspace protection yet
>>151220050It doesn't work for anybody. What's odd is it seems like something Taeshi considers to be both more heinous than literal abuse and something you can be guilty of by accidentally breathing at the person who thought you were into them
>>151220071There wasn't much if anything left to salvage from James. Taeshi ruined him thoroughly. The guy who pined after Mike for months and changed schools just to be near him is dead and gone. Now it'd make a whole lot more sense for Taeshi to retcon James into a huge liar who only latched onto Mike on a whim.
>>151220050Mike is going to go to walk home and see Lucy with James, and it will mirror how "Mike is everywhere" because Mike wouldn't go inside. When he gets home, his family is going to lecture him, and he's going to sperg out on Sandy, who will pull a Sue and make him feel worst about himself.
>>151219055Im glad abbey is officially the most lucy-proof character possible because being bound to this energy vampire cunt is a fate worse than death and the boy has suffered enough
>>151218322Even if Paulo goes outside to find Mike, I fully expect a dead-eyed scarf cat who will lie and take all the blame.
>>151220050It doesn't because Mike never did. He never strung anyone along, especially not James.If anyone between those two strung anyone along, it was James doing it to Mike.
>>151220106James isn't going to get shit on universally until Lucy does something 'bad'. Kicking Mike is deserved in the eyes of the mentally ill. >>151220143Even Amaya didn't want to be around Mike, so you're probably right. Paulo is starting to wake up.
>>151220154>baww mike never did anything wrong
>>151220188Correct
>>151220188Yup, pretty much.
>>151220188This but unironically
>>151220050You need to lower yourself to Taeshi's logic>Mike hangs with James as a new friend and feels comfortable enough with him to be more open up, this is Mike being emotionally intimate with James somehow >Mike turns James down, which means he should not want to be emotionally intimate with him anymore, because she doesn't believe friends can be close platonically despite James saying so>James engaged on a (one sided) emotional engagement with David while Mike is still trying to be close to him and stay engaged too. This is bad because Mike is intruding and asking James to EMOTIONALLY CHEAT>By wanting to still engage emotionally yet platonically Mike is giving signals that he wants James on some level, so James could lower his guard and give him back some of that attention >This is manipulative because Mike had already said no to a relationship and was not trying to have one anyway >James is the victim here because he had already moved onSee how easy it is to bullshit your way into it?
>>151220188he really did not. Especially not to James.
>>151220147We know for a fact that they have some kind of heated talk on the double date chapter (which is next), so whatever happens, Paulo doesn't leave him hanging (at least not yet).
A reminder.
>>151220188>He didn't do this specific thing>Oh so you deny he can do anything wrong!?C'mon chucklenuts
>>151220188So you finally grew up and realised that Mike was right? Good.
>>151220050It's been broken down multiple times and it always comes down to autists in the thread saying "heh... every man is an island buddy, Mike isn't responsible for other people's actions and if they fall for Mike intentionally acting like he's romantically available and taking them on dates that's their fault"
>>151219662"I keep having this dream... Of a person I can't quite remember, telling me something I know is important... and making really insensitive comments. I always forget the content of the dream, but I can't help but ponder about it as I go through my day, like an itch I can't scratch. I've tried to ignore it, but then I feel this... dread, like I'm making a big mistake.""I know it sounds crazy, but lately I've been looking for... for someone among the crowd, in the hallways and during lunch. That someone is never there, and why should they be? And yet I find myself scanning for signs. White fur, shades, dark trench coat...""I'm sure I'm creeping you out with all this, a-and I know I don't have any right to speak with you or anyone else after everything I've done... After how much I've hurt HER... And I know I'm shameless and I suck and that I'm a nuisance! B-But whenever I look at you I kind of feel like that figure becomes less blurry, that it's more real, that I can maybe start making sense of things.""So please, I need any help you can give me, Sue. Any hint will do"
>>151220238>See how easy it is to bullshit your way into it?Honestly, I do not. It seems so convoluted and nonsensical.
>>151220286>It's been broken down multiple timesIn some alternate universe, perhaps.
>>151220286You have been told to fuck off already
>>151217902adults don't even take wives beating their husbands seriously lmao
>>151220262kek
>>151220286The tone in this post makes it sound like you think this isnt true but it is??? Its one of Mike's biggest fucking issues of all that hes retardedly committed and defensive of his oneitis and he completely shut it down as soon as he realized what James was trying to do
>>151220286>if they fall for Mike intentionally acting like he's romantically available and taking them on datesCan I get some examples of this please?
>>151220311>black is white and if you fuckers don't agree with me than you're all stupid retardsNearly every single thread, and (s)he never changes tactics.
>>151220343This has to be a woman
>>151220286
>>151220330>>151220340It's the same guy that says Mike was stringing Daisy along because he accepted to go out with her and that it doesn't count he was guilted by Abbey, told again and again it would be only as friends, and that he rejected her advances, he should have known Daisy was lying and it's his fault for accepting anyway
>I crashed out on a friend, telling him that he is universally agreed by our entire friend group to indisputably be the dumbest member of it and that the only reason we haven't kicked him out is because it might be classified as animal abuse, then sent him a link to the excel spreadsheet of us taking bets on whether or not he'll quit or be fired from the job he just got hired at this week.>Just generally absolutely nailed this guy with every piece of emotional damage I could muster, then told him there's no point to bitching and moaning about it because no one in our friend group will risk losing my friendship by supporting him.How have you Mikemaxxed today anons?
>>151220286>intentionally acting like he's romantically available and taking them on dates that's their faultWhen has this happened? The movie date? Mike saw that as a friendly outing. The only one who had romance on the mind was James. And how that ended doesn't justify his behavior in this chapter at all.
>mike just wants one friend one single friend one fucking person in the entire world who spends time with him and wouldn't drop him in a heartbeat to huff lucys farts and he naturally becomes attached and wants to spend time with that person because the rest of his life is so goddamn depressing No mike you OWE that person sex and no this isnt chud logic you see because this is a boy its only bad if you apply this to women
>>151220385Maybe it's some crazed patreon cultist who's trying to talk themselves into believing nonsense by tilting at windmills. You know, feeling insecure so she has to go own the chuds to feel vindicated. She's very immature about it and there's always this desperate need to delegitimize her perceived opponents, which is a narcissistic trait.
AMAYA! :D
>>151220407I just did this to my grandma
>>151220410For that anon not going no contact with someone after they show interest in you is considered agreeing to a relationship and thus stringing along if you don't actually go for it. Literally "if you don't respond with extreme disgust at being flirted at by a friend it means you're down to fuck"
>>151220311Your impotent crybaby tears sustain me>>151220330>M-Mike completely shut it down when he realized!Totally, here's Mike holding hands with James after he said he would always be down to fuck just incase his relationship with Sandy goes south.>Guy you know has a thing for you literally tells you he's always going to have a thing for you>Instead of telling James the truth that he doesn't have a chance in hell Mike says "Tee hee I'd like that">James moves on romantically but is still available as a friend>this depresses Mike and he starts to pathetically cling to James as much as possible to take back specifically David's spot as James' target of affectionThis isn't hard to understand for literally anyone else by the way
>>151220500>if you don't respond with extreme disgustGood news, lol
Is James for real? Is he really asking her to join track when Mike is thereThe fuck
>>151220410James DIDN’T want Mike to find out his intentions. He wanted to trick a possibly straight boy into going on a date and then Mike would realize he liked it so much he’d break up with his gf of three years on the spot. James didn’t even know if Mike would hate him for it or not! That’s why this turn is gross, this is such a 180 that if you try to square it with the older chapter it makes James look insane.
>>151220520Hey can you post the page before this one real quick?
>>151220523I kind of miss this Daisy since she was spicier and, in some ways, more honest.
>>151220407>sent him a link to the excel spreadsheet of us taking bets on whether or not he'll quit or be fired from the job he just got hired at this weekLol Lucyfags can't help themselves. Mike was evil but also totally correct about Lucy's friends, they really are awful and hate her. Lucy leans on Augustus because everyone else failed her, not because she chose to avoid them.>>151220523No this is Mike blowing up on Daisy out of nowhere, she had literally no way to see this reaction coming.
>>151220520I'm surprised you guys haven't caught on he's just playing a role as an angry Taeshi yet, enraged that no one gets what a genius she is while ignoring all the things that poke holes in her narrative despite all evidence to the contrary.
>>151217055All suitcase had to do, he wasn't strong enoughhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ86GdP87Gs
>>151220585I regret to inform you that evidence suggests this individual is actually just this stupid and unable to control themselves.
>>151220585I mean, I'll take him over the Paulo dickrider, now that guy was annoying
>>151220385>anyone who doesn't believe the general's collective delusion is the same person It's funny how you guys pretend this isn't 10x the pussyfied echo chamber the discord is>>151220556You got it buddy, but it looks like Mike is still blushing while James takes his hand.Platonically to be sure :^)
>>151220605>wasBut im still here
>>151220585Not everyone is as schizophrenic as you are though.
>>151220520> but is still available as a friendIt's an unreasonable point of view. James has been shitty and ignorant towards Mike as of lately.
>>151220618Unless you're the guy that used Paulo getting railed and having a car as signs of emotional maturity no you're not
>>151220613Thanks. So Mike says no, and starts whining, and James cheers him up and holds his hand (i.e. not even initiated by mike) and to you this is cheating? This is signaling to James that he wants to fuck?This whole "well, he didnt say no!" thing is some weird rape-o chud logic. Do better.
>>151220613All of this showed is that gays are predatory. Look how James turned on the guy for not fucking him.
>Using blushing as an argument>In a comic where characters blush all the time over miniscule things, sometimes even at randomWomen lol
>>151220605He's got this boyish charm tho.
>>151220520>here's Mike holding hands with JamesYeah I agree, when James was saying something kind and supportive and touched his hands in the process, he should have smacked them away like a spaz. Mike is famously averse to platonic physical touch, after all.>Mike says "Tee hee I'd like that"In response to staying friends, yes, lol.>still available as a friendGoes from wanting to spend time with him to excluding him from everything. Not even necessarily a bad thing for James to do, but the idea that the ONLY reason Mike would be hurt by that is romantic jealousy is so fucking silly.
>>151220638That sounds based
>>151220638He takes his job seriously and helps his dad. He must be at least somewhat emotionally mature.
>>151220671That's what is so fucking frustrating about Paulo. There are aspects of nobility to him, but then he'll turn right around and behave like a complete asshole or a huge crybaby begging to be handled with the kid gloves he won't use.
>>151220671>He must be at least somewhat emotionally matureLOL
>>151220340One: Mike receving love letters and gifts from Sandy, but still insisting "Sandy isn't my girlfriend!" until he had 3 separate people telling him "yes she is, idiot"Two: Mike repeatedly telling Daisy she's cute, going on a "date" with her, "why'd I never give you a chance?"Three: Mike telling Stacy "So I kept your letters [...] They were really sweet." totally unpromptedFour?: Mike flirting hard with Lucy during EF But personally I prefer to write off that entire chapter because it's all stupid nonsense>>151220385>It's the same guyNo, there's at least two of us. Me, and the anon who's been arguing with you for all posts above.>told again and again it would be only as friendsThere was no "again and again". Daisy said it "wouldn't have to mean anything!", then compared it to Paulo and Tess going to prom and Mike and Lucy going together as examples, neither of which were "just friends" despite what she said (and both she and Mike knew that neither of those examples were "just friends"). Mike caved immediately anyways, but he DID know that Daisy had ulterior motives - he wasn't fooled, he just didn't expect her to be so pushy.I don't get why you're so up in arms that Mike "never led anyone on!" as if it's some cardinal sin that he would be eternally damned for. It's some of the lowest-stakes dirt possible.
>>151217898>the forumsAnon wake up, the forums have been dead for over a decade.
>>151220725>>151217898>anon whose been in a coma since the mid 2000s
>>151220407I was Mikemaxxed a few months ago when a girl from an old job I hung out with regularly with other coworkers told me the rest of the group thought I was trash. It rattled me to have someone I thought I was cool with come at me with that much hate out of nowhere. From her rant apparently I did one too many little things that she thought were rude, one of which was handing a blanket to her too harshly at a concert(?) and accidentally talking over her a few times when we would get drinks. Then she hit me with the >I have so many more important things to do than spend time with you and will hang out with everybody but youfeels bad, the rest of the group and I are cool, worried they all secretly hate me though. shit I may be Lucy
>>151218767Fuck, you have amazing patience. You really got your ass beat protecting her like Mike with Lucy, only short of the tens of feet long kicking. Hope you're doing better now, I wouldn't blame you for having a December.>>151218795Mike and Paulo are an adorable ship.>>151218998Should've traded Mike for Zach when ya had the chance.>>151219059Okay, that's super sweet. I'm not going to make any shipping teases but I'm glad you both are doing better, and that she'll be nicer to you. Your patience and empathy is admirable, I think you'd get along with Mike.>>151219092When he finds out what an ass she is he'll go back to simping for guys. Now I'm curious about what the abuse statistics among gay couples is, if it's common for males to abuse other males. I'm left wondering if AbbeyxAugustus, MikexPaulo, or JamesxFelix would result in domestic abuse in an alternate future.
>>151220725In MY days we still had bcb board on cripplechan
>>151220640>So Mike says noMike did not say no anywhere on that page, sick delusion though, same with bringing up cheating out of nowhere, it must be fun being crazy.>>151220653>Yeah I agree, when James was saying something kind and supportive and touched his hands in the process, he should have smacked them away like a spaz. Mike is famously averse to platonic physical touch, after all.Just telling James the truth that he will never have a chance with him probably would've helped, but you're right, holding hands with a boy who you've been gushing over all night who just said he would always want to fuck you is a close second.>In response to staying friends, yes, lol.In response to staying friends where James will quote "Always be down if you change your mind"yeah, that sure sounds like just friends to me.>Goes from wanting to spend time with him to excluding him from everything. Not even necessarily a bad thing for James to do, but the idea that the ONLY reason Mike would be hurt by that is romantic jealousy is so fucking silly.Mike isn't being excluded from anything, he's just not James' primary point of affection because David is just as much a friend and also his romantic option.
>>151220697>OneIf he wasn't aware that Sandy was "his girlfriend" then she literally wasn't his girlfriend. Even if she WAS, he wasn't dating someone else; the worst he was guilty of was having a female friend.>TwoHilarious to bring up the date, since Abbey guilted him into that for not being attentive enough to her, and he spent the entire time rebuffing her only for her to play the same guilt card on him again to keep it going.>ThreeStupid to say, sure. Do you honestly consider that an attempt to pursue her or prevent her from dating other people?>FourStupid of him, for sure. But EF is retarded, as you said.
>>151220586Suddenly the piss comics make more sense...
>>151220605Paulo's cock is for Mike to ride.
>>151220806>the worst he was guilty of was having a female friend.In Taeshi's eyes this is basically the same as raw fucking
>>151216834I love the Mike Humiliation Ritual. Makes me feel better about myself.
>>151216834that's it, my favorite ship (Rachel x Augustus) and character (Augustus) got destroyedand now Lucy converted a gay guy into her haremfuck this comic and my life
>>151220789You're right, he didnt tell James no on that page, he told him no a couple pages earlier. I can see you're having a bit of a rough time following here so I went ahead and grabbed it for you this time.
>>151220857Still not a no, he's apologizing for having a girlfriend actually, I wonder how you can have such a wildly inaccurate interpretation of the English language.
>>151220838It's cute that you think Paulo "I want someone to pamper me like a mother" Somali would top Mike "repressed anger and pent up" Whitecat
>>151220806So what's your argument here, that the letters meant nothing, or that Mike only thought of Lucy as a friend?Make some specific statements so I know what to disprove.
>>151219279Mike deserves every girl in the comic. He should've listened to Paulo. Harem of everyone in the grade.
>>151216968>>151217055I hope he fucking does itI hope Taeshi draws guro right this time, not that stomach ketchup shit>>151219055I can dream
>>151220613The excellent thing about this comic is that its inconsistent enough that two people with opposite opinions can argue about it while both being right.
>>151220898Why do you keep trying to engage with her when she always argues in bad faith?
>>151220901Alright, fair enough, but>Mike Whitecat...it seems the incest expands alongside Lucyspace. Warrants further study (from a safe distance).
I wonder what would happen in the comic if Tae and Suit broke up
>>151220898Again with the weird rapey "That's not a no!" logic. You're a creep.
>>151220789The problem is you can't lead someone on if they don't want to be led on. Mike can't be leading James on because James stopped giving a fuck about him as soon as David entered the picture. Mike's response to James's confession was not a harsh rejection sure, but reading the intention to lead James on into is kind of wild especially when that didn't actually happen. At this point your arguments are pretty much "Mike is a dirty filthy slut who likes it when people like him, look he blushed! The whore!" But even if he is that doesn't mean he's actively leading people on. Most people are flattered when someone gives them positive attention or expresses attraction to them.
>>151220949That fuck up was mine
>>151220953murder-suicide local news headline
>>151220576Oh I assure you, I'm no Lucyfag.>Mike was evilFuck you talking about? Jesus Christ himself had less patience for people's bullshit than Mike did, he isn't evil for finally telling her off.
>>151220953It would end because Taeshi commits suicide, is institutionalized, or her larger family forbids her from indulging her BPD fantasies as a condition for living with them.
>>151220932This is why I hated the vacation pages. Mike didn't hate Lucy until the weird older guy talked to Mike alone. It's like Taeshi had relationship issues in real in the middle of the arc, and decided to double down on it for the rest of the comic. Tess was too good to be a tard wrangler.
>>151220644> James crawls on all fours and runs, clamping Mike's cock in his jaws. But he wants bigger prey next, this isn't enough. Turns to Matt.
>>151220188He did some wrong. His December rant was admittedly overboard and he took Sandy back which was retarded. That said, the only thing 'harmful' he did he has long since apologized for and did so quickly at that. The problem is he is continuously being punished in ludicrous fashions to the point of beating a dead horse while the slut who is vastly worse than him (and ACTUALLY guilty of the things she gaslights him as) gets rewarded and praised constantly.Plus the plot and world folding in on itself to make this shit happen in the most nonsensical ways. James might as well have transformed into a completely different character in the past few pages.
>>151220758>Like Mike and LucyNot at all. How it happened was my mom asked me to go out to the grocery store to get bacon, milk, eggs and butter. She wanted to come along and spend some of her pocket money on candy and mom told her "Stay with anon at all times". On the way there she was mostly good but on the way back she started to wander off and then start running off, I had a backpack full of groceries and didn't find it funny so when I caught up to her I grabbed her arm and told her to cut the shit and just come home or mom wouldn't let us out again.We walked past a parked car and her being an asshole she took a quarter out of her pocket and scraped it along the cars paintwork deep as she could, you could see a fat line of bare metal and she found it funny. We got maybe 2 minutes down the road and that car flew ahead of us and screeched to a stop. The guy got out and started yelling at me specifically. I didn't want to risk her getting an ass kicking so I told him to back off, he tried to grab me and I shoved him back, then he just lost his shit, picked me up off the ground by my jacket and slammed me onto the ground, she started screaming and I screamed back at her to run.I really don't remember much after that. As soon as his boot went into my stomach I went blank and I just lay there with my arms covering my neck and head as much as I could as he went psycho on me. Couldn't even tell you how long it lasted but it felt like ages. She had ran home at this point and by the time mom got to me I was laid on the sidewalk passed out and bleeding with a couple of strangers trying to help me and waiting for an ambulance. When I woke up I was in hospital at night on a ward. As soon as the nurse saw that I was awake she sat with me and explained what happened and petted my head whilst I cried. got me a drink and gave me some more high-strength pain meds and as soon as they kicked in I was asleep again until mid-afternoon the next day to mom sitting next to me.
>>151220644Yes yes we know you say this every thread
>>151220697>There was no "again and again"He literally tried to end the date early because she pushed it too many times, and then she guilted him into continuing. Guilt is why he went in the first place. Daisy knew she could get him to go if she mashed the guilt button and she did so. It's crazy to me how people will watch other characters knowingly use Mike people-pleasing nature to manipulate him, but then blame it on him and call him a pushover.>I don't get why you're so up in arms that Mike "never led anyone on!"Because it genuinely is a shitty thing to do. Keeping others from moving on because you're jealous and/or want to hedge your bets is fucking evil. Taeshi certainly seems to think so too.>>151220920That Mike didn't take the letters as an indication at that they were "together". I'm curious how you'll disprove that when it's laid out explicitly, unless you think his recollection of his first phone call with Sandy was a lie.
>>151220806>If he wasn't aware that Sandy was "his girlfriend" then she literally wasn't his girlfriend.That's true. But remember that Mike wasn't claiming Sandy wasn't his girlfriend because he'd decided to reject her, he was claiming he didn't know the girl sending him letters covered in glitter-hearts saw him as more than a friend. Which to me implies that he was in denial, because the alternative is that he was being implausibly dumb.>Do you honestly consider that an attempt to pursue her or prevent her from dating other people?No, I don't think any of my examples were intentional on Mike's part *persay*. My position is NOT that Mike is acting out of deliberate malice, that's the other anon's schtick. My position is that Mike is a stupid idiot who doesn't understand romance, boundaries, or that repeatedly telling someone they're cute gives the wrong impression. The worst thing I feel able to credibly accuse Mike of is feeling entitled to being the center of attention, but that's the least charitable interpretation.
>>151220985Actually, if you read a chapter or two before the vacation arc proper begins, you can see Mike showing less patience and more irritation toward Lucy. That trend continued during the trip and then culminated in Mike's openly soured attitude after the fall and Lucy re-confirming his place in her worldview.
>>151221021Every page reinforces it.
>>151220528He only cares about how fast someone is.
>>151221008He had already apologized for the December rant before she even jumped.What's even worse is he was pretty much correct in the rant, he just wasn't tactful about the confrontation.
>>151220960I predicted this post already here btw lmao>>151220286It's missing the part where you fight a strawman argument no one made, but still.Mike's rejection was practically non-existent, he apologized for having a girlfriend and said nothing when his "friend" stated his goal was to be Mike's eternal backup, David swooping down and stealing James' affection doesn't negate what Mike wants and for the last four chapters was trying to do, return to being James' center of affection.>Mike is innocent because despite trying hard to keep James on the hook he wriggled offisn't an effective argument.
>>151221054Yeah I noted that hence the "he apologized quickly". By all accounts he did everything reasonable he could have. The plot is not reasonable though so Mike has the entire world and plot turn against him while the chick who goes around actually abusing and manipulating people objectively gets treated as a didndu
>>151221064Mike being flattered and friendly when people are nice to him is not acting like he's romantically available. He literally told James he had a girlfriend kek
>You know that Mike is with Sandy>Still push for itWhat's wrong with those kots(Lucy, Daisy, James etc)?
>>151221097Because if he says no then you can still blame him by making shit up.
My boy Paulo fucks up and does something unforgivable in every single page he appears and Im still going to root for him anyway. Whats the problem here?
>>151220523Look at that blush on the bottom panel! His mouth says no but his face says yes. Mike is truly a master manipulator
EVERYSINGLETHREAD
>>151221097Pushing for the threesome
>>151220523>Mike's hand in panel 1Does Mike have the ability to grow the size of his limbs on command? No wonder Lucy is so obsessed with him.
>>151220725damn... im old.Guess holding a slight, petty grudge makes something memorable.Last I remember is the porn art being removed and the artists banned. (After saying she was fine with it and would not do so) then a wave of bans on 'critics'
>>151221036>Which to me impliesThat's a neat headcanon, but a headcanon is all it is. It won't win an argument with what actually happened.Are you the anon who claimed to "provide examples" a few threads back and ended up accidentally disproving yourself with a page you'd clearly misremembered? As fluid as BCB causality is, people here still hold the events of the comic over personal interpretations of the subtext.
>>151221147All the better to slap Lucy with once Suitcase leaves Taeshi, she goes insane, and turns Mike into Mega Hitler.
>>151220697>I don't get why you're so up in arms that Mike "never led anyone on!" as if it's some cardinal sin that he would be eternally damned for. It's some of the lowest-stakes dirt possible.It's literally the basis for him getting torn to shreds in the current chapter. Augustus builds a whole thesis around how he's an evil manipulator who leads everyone on. The Patreon comments are full of people saying he deserves whatever happens to him because of it.
>>151221122its impressive how awful it gets isnt it?Thats why we are still here.
>>151221162then get mad when people unironically start rooting for mike more im sure
>>151221097He was going to give mike some dick and show him theres a better way. Which is righteous but mike has to decide for himself that sandy isnt worth it and hes just not there yet
>>151221064>return to being James' center of affectionThe trouble with this is that James went from completely obsessed to "it's like we don't even need Mike!" 100 to 0 in minutes flat. You can't automatically assume Mike wouldn't have been satisfied with a more middling level of attention.
>>151221200the power of Lucyspace compelled him
>>151220953she might actually kill him, herself, or both.
>>151221023Yes, Daisy did deliberately manipulate Mike into coming with her and staying past the point he was uncomfortable. My point is that Mike KNEW Daisy was manipulating him, and rather than take the course of action that would hurt her the least, he took the course of action that was the least confrontational, at least initially. It's not his fault, Daisy chose to create a situation where there was no realistic way she comes out of it without feeling hurt. But in the broader context of Mike's friendship with Daisy, I do think she had reason to feel jilted and confused.I'm not saying Mike shouldn't be nice, I'm saying that his calculus of "nice" is off. He acts in ways that are worse for everyone including himself in the long run, but spare him having to say "no" in the moment.>Because it genuinely is a shitty thing to do. Keeping others from moving on because you're jealous and/or want to hedge your bets is fucking evil.If he were doing it deliberately, but I don't think he's thinking it through like that. I think Mike is desperate for positive attention and dumb about how he goes about it, and so he pours on flattery and kindness in ways that come across as flirtatious.>>151221164That's a separate thing; Mike did lead people on, but that doesn't mean he's an evil manipulator who deserves Augustus and Lucy deliberately setting out to fuck with him.
>>151221288You're insane and I don't know why people keep trying to debate you out of what you are determined to believe.
>>151221036Could you please put a disclaimer that you're arguing from pure headcanon then? Because by events in the comic and word of Taeshi: yes, Mike is exactly that sheltered and guileless. He was completely fooled by Alejandro, he did just take Daisy at her word, he didn't get it when Finn mocked James for trying to bend the boy with a girlfriend while James furiously gestured at Finn to STFU. That's fine, whatever, but there's no point talking to you then.
>>151221097It's ok for women(+gays) to be pushy, don't ya know?
>>151220953I would fix her so she'd stop fucking up the comic and then ruin her again.
>>151221036>he was being implausibly dumbDude Mike is a bit austistic >Daisy managed to trick him into a date.>Sandy had to be the one to tell him what Lucy was doing to him was abuse and he should probably tell an adult.>James was looking at him romantically but Mike thought he was being a friend.Paulo pretty much outright told Mike he wanted to fuck him and Mike said no. You need to spell things out for Mike to get them sometimes. That and the sandy shit tells me he is a bit socially retarded and or autistic. There are probably more examples of Mike being like this besides these events too.
Those thread used to be nothing but anti Lucy circlejerk, now the Discord fags, reddit fags and regular fags are converging in one place. The power of this chapter holds no bounds.
>>151221343It's funny, in a meta sense we're not cutting Mike any slack, same as the comic itself, like we are perpetuating Taeshi's narrative
Oh wait, I remember there was another moment of Mike being a bit socially retarded. Going to a second location with Carson. If Carson didn't fall into that hole bcb would have been a rapey bl comic for a bit.
>>151221023>That Mike didn't take the letters as an indication at that they were "together". I'm curious how you'll disprove that when it's laid out explicitly, unless you think his recollection of his first phone call with Sandy was a lie.Fuck what Mike says while he's still trying to get with Lucy, here's what Mike does>Gets heart covered love letters from a girl he's in love with>Says he has to "Stay loyal" to Sandy and that Lucy is just a "test of loyalty" he has to pass>Merely seeing her on TV prompts him to immediately run away to another city just to find her >Constantly dreams about being with her>When forced to accept that these are the actions of someone in a relationship finally admits that she was like a girlfriend the entire time>Calls Sandy who, when asked if they're dating says "Uhhh yeah, what else would we be?"But the letters meant nothing says /bcb/ despite all evidence to the contrary.>>151221120They don't like Mike, they just project onto him so any flaw is directly insulting them, you don't see people who like Augustus and Abbey chimping out like this when their characters are called out.
>>151221416Isn't that after he got the shit beat out of him by Paulo & a horde of people in a public lynching aganist him? You are insane btw.
>>151221036I initially went to get this screenshot because I remembered it supporting your first point. Then I reread it and decided it actually supported Mike legit being implausibly dumb. Now I'm really not sure anymore. In my gut I feel like Mike's hesitation means something and he would've moved on from Sandy if he hadn't gotten pushed towards Sandy by everyone he knows.I guess I'll just drop this here since I have it.
>>151221416>you don't see people who like Augustus chimping out like thisI've argued with someone in the discord who insisted that what Augustus did to Daisy was good actually because it showed her that Mike wasn't good for her, lol.And it's funny to bring up projection when so many Mike haters go on and on about how he's the worst person in the story because he struggles to set boundaries, which just screams "my limited social awareness has burned people and I blame them for it".
>>1512213071st, word of Taeshi means less than nothing. 2nd, Taeshi is allergic to any form of clarification other than "ohoho maaaaaybe", so no, it isn't explicit that Mike doesn't know better.And 3rd, in the case of Mike insisting that Sandy wasn't his girlfriend, I find him being in denial far less damning than him being that dumb. There's a bunch of fair reasons for him to be in denial: fear of hurting others, fear of getting hurt, fear of not being good enough, fear of commitment, a sense of disbelief, not knowing that LDRs are a thing, worrying he might have misunderstood, etcetera.>>151221343Mike being autistic doesn't suffice for me, because I'm autistic, and I was never stupid enough to need to be told that someone hitting me is mean. And the argument that he was sincerely tricked every time doesn't scan for me, because he usually seems to know somethings up going in, and has often claimed he "knew better" afterwards. With Daisy's date for example, I'm pretty sure he knew something was afoot from the moment she asked based on his reactions, he just didn't want to be mean and refuse.
>>151221497You could say Mike already has some self esteem issues where, even if a relationship with Sandy was something he'd like, he doesn't seem it as something that's happening, he has to be told by Sandy that's what it is for him to finally see it as such. He really has this problem where he needs to be told things out loud because he won't come to conclusions himself, and you don't know if that's because he assumes other people are too good for him or he's not good enough. Even the whole Lucy abuse was rationalized by him as "oh she's difficult but she means good" until told otherwise. Honestly seeing his own desicions get ignored or not taken seriously must fuck with him a lot
>>151221393>Discord fags, reddit fagsJust ignore them, they can't argue for shit and some of em are legit dumb teens
>>151221497Either's possible. I choose to err on the side of Mike being willful in his ignorance mostly because that makes him a more interesting character; if he really is so dumb that he can be tricked with minimum effort and needs others to explain his own circumstances to him, then the answer to "who will win Mike's heart?" boils down to "whoever last asked"
The only person who can save Mike is himself... from volume one.
Did leak anon give us a leak yet?All I see is trauma dumping.
I just want these queers to kiss already
>>151221724I love Tess!
>>151221599> because I'm autisticWe could tell.
>>151221729It's one of the sketched pages, no new info
>>151221724I've forgotten this era of the comic entirely, what did Tess do to piss everyone off?
>>151221724That Mike was drowned a long time ago, though.
>>151221771She was a meanie to kids
>>151221773>The skinwalker took his place and can't handle Lucy
>>151221599>I am autistic, and as such I can't imagine autists who aren't literally meUh-huh.>>151221771Dated the school bully and then when she broke up with him he stopped protecting her so she was an easy target.
>>151221771Former Delinquent with her bf. Boyfriend breaks Rachael's little brother's arm. Jess does something to try and get back at them but it doesnt work. Tess spreads a school rumor. At some point she tried to change her ways. Rachael forgave her, Jess is still malding, possibly because Tess did better herself as a person.
>>151221771She slashed a kid's ball when he kicked it towards her by accident, then laughed at her then-boyfriend breaking that kid's arm. It's implied she did other stuff too, but that's the main thing.
>>151221729leakanon is kill and nobody else is risking their sub. its this page with more text >>151216944>James wants to be running buddies with Lucy>Paulo asks if theyre just ignoring the elephant in the room>James tell him he can go find Mike if he wants
>>151221826Which chapter/page?
>>151221441Not an argument, thank you for cowering before cold hard evidence for the millionth time though.
>>151221321I always invisioned her to be a big girl, is she not?
>>151221120Nothing, it's fun to root for a fuck-up not not be such a fuck-up. Wish the payoffs were better though.>>151221832They must have swapped James for a skinwalker, this doesn't sound at all like the character from 10 chapters ago.
>>151221518I've never argued that Mike's the worst character in the story. I'm well aware that being an attention-hungry idiot isn't as bad as being physically abusive, or trying to manipulate someone into a relationship against their will, or engaging in some insane multi-year revenge scheme against someone who's already apologized. But Mike IS an attention-hungry idiot, and I was sick of anons pretending he's based and has done nothing wrong just because Lucy is so much worse.Only to find that some anons will start screeching "apologist! liar! headcanon!" as vehemently as any Lucycultist if you mention any of the times Mike has fucked up.
>>151222023>But Mike IS an attention-hungry idiot, and I was sick of anons pretending he's based and has done nothing wrong just because Lucy is so much worse.Cause he aint that. What he actually is is someone who desires a relationship. Trying to shift the blame on shit to him is why people are calling you a fucking crazy person.
>>151220523Silly edits, my last remaining joy...
