What’s your favorite example of writers being dicks to other writers in their books? I like the Stan Lee expy in The Boys because Ennis doesn’t even give a shit about superheroes he just hates Lee on principal.
*principle
>>151216960He sure owned Lee with this parody. Making him a rich dude who fucked notWonder Woman and whatnot.
>>151217035Because if he had made him a castrated poor virgin loser then Ennis would have won and Stan The Fag would have been eternally btfo. But Ennis is too dumb to win.
>>151217084Nice chip on your shoulder, retard.
>>151217219Cry more, cuck.
>>151217240You are, city slicker.
Well this isn’t the direction I intended for the thread to go
>>151217272Good.
>>151216960I've always connected him more to Bob Kane because this dialogue really reminds me of Kane's grave
>>151216960Jack Kirby’s take on Stan Lee and Roy Thomas (as “Houseroy,” Lee’s suck-up lackey) is pretty legendary. He must have thought he’d never go back to Marvel.In some ways it’s not as big a piss-take on Lee as he probably intended because Funky Flashman may be a phony with a fake public persona who leeches off more creative people (all basically fair) but is an entertaining guy with showmanship and a way with words, so he embodies some of Lee’s good qualities, whether intentionally or not.
>>151216960I hate ESLs so much
>>151217375I'm baffled that his grave is more about Batman than him. Surely someone should have proofread that and realized it.
>>151216960Is it normal to portray strangers with such vitriol in your cartoon
>>151218383Ennis is an incredibly bitter, cynical old asshole. I think it comes from growing up in Northern Ireland during the Troubles.
>>151216960>cashed the checkthis is a direct reference not to Stan Lee but to Harry Donenfeld and Jack Liebowitz, who claimed (successfully, initially) that Siegel and Shuster had cashed checks for their Superman strips that had contracts written on the back, and that the act of cashing the check implied acceptance of the terms of that contract; if you didn't cash it, you didn't get paidthis was at the time normal industry practice, but Superman made so much money (and turned Donenfeld from a bankrupt into a millionaire almost overnight) that it was worth contestingit's conflated here with the largely imaginary concept that Stan Lee falsely claimed credit for characters he had nothing to do with creating (in fact he was usually involved as Editor and later Editor in Chief) while denying credit for other creatives; but Stan Lee in the 1940s as an Editor was already pushing for creators to get on-page name credits every issue so that fans would know who wrote or drew their favorite strips; the only real reference to Lee is his tendency to use Shakespearian English for certain characters (like Thor, who someone is about to tell you he absolutely had no hand in creating at all...)the moustache/bald combo is more like Jack Liebowitz than any of the others, though that's probably coincidental; it's just Ennis playing into lazy "well known facts" to create another dull parody character rather than a direct attack on anybody - comic book publishing has never been a particularly great industry to work inimagine starting out now and being told by Jim Lee or Robert Kirkman that there's no money to buy your work and publish it this month because Brian Michael Bendis/Rob Liefeld is back for another 8k-sales-per-issue run on a property whose actual creators died 50 years ago so they're not looking for new creatives, unless of course YOU'VE already done the hard work of marketing and building the brand for your original IP, or you want to work for below minimum wage
>>151218457He didn't face the brunt of the war yet acts like a veteran
>>151218519He's ashamed of his own cowardice so he projects it onto characters he hates. Classic behavior.Meanwhile Jack Kirby actually served in World War 2, and he was the one who created Captain America in the first place. All the troops loved Cap, too.
>>151218014You really think Kane didn't write that himself? It stinks of the self-aggrandizing bullshit he used to pullMust've written that years before he actually died
>>151217671Call ICE, gringo
