Which villain should be the final boss of Spider-Man if the comics ever officially ended? Like if he fought one last villain and retired or something
>>151316468All of the Marvel Editorials merged into a single entity.
>>151316468Goblin or Ock
>>151316468Most of them already had something similar to that.Chameleon was the last one doing a number on Peter before the clone saga and personally the one that did it better for me.
>>151316468Kingpin domming petes twink ass
>>151316468Norman is the only correct answer.
>>151316468Chameleon or the Vulture
>>151316468i always found Kingpin to be one of my favorites, evil fatso that's actually a really good fighter and stuffs
>>151316468Goblin but he also should die in the final fight.
>>151316468Miles Morales
Green Goblin.
Norman or Ock
>>151316468The ghost of Uncle Ben.
His now demonized daughter he gave to mephisto because Marvel told him to
>>151316481Have them manifest as an evil doppelganger of Peter whose Spider costume resembles the original 60s red and black suit
>>151316468Has Spider-man ever had a closure moment with the guy that killed Uncle Ben? Batman gets them all the time with Joe Chill and the only time i recall anything close was in Spectacular where he’s Black Cat’s dad
>>151317051>had a closure moment with the guy that killed Uncle Ben?Didn't he throw him out of a window in the raimi flick?
>>151316468Shocker
>>151317051Amazing Spider-Man #200
>>151317051
>>151316710kek>>151316481That WOULD make for an interesting meta-ending. Some seething amalgamation of Bendis, Slott, and others.>>151317450Based
>>151318005Contrived as it was, that was a damn good bit of closure.
>>151316552>>151316741>>151316607>>151316492>>151316807This. Goblin and Doc Ock are such obvious but natural final boss choices. Can't go wrong with either one.
>>151316468Michael Bendis as the Brown Bomber
>>151316468Aunt May.
>>151316468Apocalypse
>>151316468He should fight Mysterio. When he wins, he wakes up in the hospital with Uncle Ben and Aunt May standing over him. We learn that everything that happened to Peter after the spider bite was a dream he was having while in a coma. It's a bittersweet ending because we'll always wonder if it's just another layer to Mysterio's tricks, leaving open the possibility that Spider-Man could return if someone really wanted him to.
>>151316468A really big spiderBut seriously, some sort of manifestation of his spider side. The ultimate battle is always with yourself.
>>151318151>Can't go wrong with either one.They absolutely could.
He stops being spider-man after norman blows his leg off
mephisto
>>151318265See >>151317016Then the reason for OMD is the Spider side losing trust in his Man side's ability to save people
White Rabbit
>>151316468The Paul Above All.
>>151318265That could work pretty well thematically. Set it up as some sort of mutation that will cause ego death and leave just the spider, but narratively present it as the all-consuming presence that is Spider-Man. A red and blue mass of quips and web that wants to evolve into something that can look out for everybody in the world but Peter Parker. Tie it back to the beginning and come to a synthesis where he can actually care about himself. Some cheesy wordplay about looking out for number one, double lives, and not treating himself as zero.
>>151318079The wackiest part of that book is that it wasn't all a dream
>>151316481Honestly this would be the most interesting answer, of course it all depends on the series actually ending which it wouldn't, maybe just say it's the canon ending and everything else after is just speculation.
>>151316468Green Goblin of course. Peter should kill him in their final battle but end up crippling one of his legs. Then he can settle down with Mary Jane, raise their daughter and... oh wait. That already happened. Go read MC2 Spider-girl.
>>151318687I was just going through your storytime and thought you'd followed me back for a second.
>>151316468If spiderman was a linear story with no fucking Bull shit retcons, both norman and Doc Ock would already be dead. So you would need to develope a final boss like Liz Allen the Goblin Carnage Queen
He doesnt have a moriarty or villain tgat sums up his life as a character.Doc ock is a fucking joke in every continuity And GG is only worth a damn because Defoe. His end boss should be the sinister six and trying to get to the hospital in time for his first child's birth.
Himself.
>>151316468skip or harry.
>>151316468It's too late to end it. It's been around too long; it's been really bad for too long. They missed their chance decades ago.They should just mercifully kill it.
Hobgoblin
>>151318265>A really big spiderI think Man-Spider would be cooler
>>151316468A giant rolled up newspaperA giant sentient bathtub
>>151318562>not The One Above Paul
He should fix all his villains (many of them victims of insane-inducing enhancement serums or suits), one after the other, and then leave Earth with all the Symbiotes.In space, he gets inside a blackhole and dies there, but not before the whole universe dies outside of it (because time dilation shenanigans). His will no live overcomes despair, he uses the combined forces of the Symbiotes to stay alive and becomes a villain for Miles.Peter Parker, The Last King in Black.
>>151319300But no one is above Paul.
>>151316468I’m going to break from the herd here and say Carnage. There’s never going to be a better ending for Norman than the original, and he’s been tainted by so much Clone Saga/BND/MCU synergy crap that he’s barely the same character anymore. Ock has been redeemed, kind of, on account of a fat self-inserter writing him for the better part of a decade. No Venom, no fire or sonics, just fighting Carnage 1 to 1.
>>151318888I was going to say Otto coming wasn't a retcon, he was resurrected with ninja voodooThen I remembered Amazing 131(?) where he definitely died in a nuclear explosion
>>151319588Counter point, Carnage is stupid.
>>151316468Obviously Norman. Like, come on. Now he's a good guy, but that's dumb
>>151320752Hes better as a ghost. Something psychological he cant beat in a fight. Because Norman Osborne has been shit gir far longer then hes been alive
>>151320800In a perfect worldThe disaster that was Norman's return could instead be an opportunity for good new stories. Because he is a really good character and villain, or wasBut this is not a perfect world
never understood why there were both a green and orange goblin
>>151316468To be a satisfying finale it'd have to tie into the main conflict of Spider-Man. And I don't think there IS a villain who really gets to the heart of Peter's issues anymore, it'd have to be original. So barring something stupid like Peter pulling a Flashpoint and fighting off other heroes so he can time travel back and stop the Guy Who Killed Uncle Ben, damn the consequences, he'd have to fight his own lack of self-worth and finally accept that while it WAS his fault that Uncle Ben died, he has to move on. He's done far more than enough, it's okay for him to put down his burden and live for himself. Ideally he'd cycle back to his original mindset (who cares about strangers, I only care about the people who have helped me), but more nuanced (I won't kill myself for total strangers, but strangers could someday help me so I might as well help them).
>>151318687It will go down as one of the most memorable moments of the ride.
>>151320932Green goblin diedThey tried a few replacements but none really meant to be permanent Hobgoblin was intended to make a long term Goblin enemy
>>151318151Hasn't Doc Ock been an ally for 10 years at this point
>>151320882He really really wasn't. He should have stayed dead ornate best been something thst drives Harry insane and forces him yo beyond the green/hob goblin.
>>151320932legacy characters exhumed for monies. Green died and Orange took his spot, son of Green wore the suit a few times and died. Then late 90s quality issues kick into the industry and Green was brought back again. At least Blue Goblin has stayed dea- oh, right...
>>151321071Agreed, he worked best as a legacy for Harry, a inversion of the Uncle Ben figure. Killing Harry was a mistake but things were much worse when they brought Norman back. I'd argue this moment was when quality writing for Marvel was truly at an end and never coming back.
>>151320800That Norman's ghost haunted his whole family was pretty great. Any villain can just menace the hero for a bit in a big punch em up fight but very few heroes have left such lasting scars on their rival.
>>151321071What?
>>151316468Felicia because she's the one that finishes Peter every night
>>151321337Kek
>>151320932For the same reason there's a water and Sandman
>>151321267I'm assuming "ornate best" is meant to be OR AT BEST but he's phone posting.
>>151316468/thread
>>151322022Poor Felicia. She's never really given a chance. By the time she developed into a non insane crazy person Pete was already married but then once that went away there was a long parade of boring love interests nobody cared about.
>>151322051She is more interesting as a crazy person and a nemesis
>>151322403She's more naked as a hero.
>>151322414she looks like a post op trannie
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>>151322591Is that a compliment because uhhhhh
>>151321543More like, polish posting, heh. I hope that's not the case but I wouldn't be surprised >>151322591GAYAY
>>151322675>Fake tits, twink frame thats a little to muscular, Over the top, and pornish, aestethic; and slight buldge thats clearly a m'bussy. Sorry fellas, but if you find this attractive you might be gay. I bet she has all sorts of Pin worms swimming around in that suit...
>>151322591schizo
>>151323027>Not noticing the delicious slight sagginess of her tits, forgetting about those curves and still calling her a twink, crying because it's oversexualized (lol, lmao even), and mistaking a puffy pussy for a penisAnon I think that you have certain problems
>>151316468I was gonna say Rhino before I remembered they already literally ended Andrew Garfield's Spider-man on a cliffhanger fight with him.But I do really think Spider-man should end on a fight with some useless F-tier jobber character like Rhino or Shocker. I love some of the big event-type villains, but I think having him go out doing something epic and important would be a betrayal of the character. He needs to die or retire doing something that only matters to him and the people he's saving. I know this is gonna sound sappy as fuck, but at the end of the day no matter how much random galactic level bullshit editorial throws him into, the place he'll always belong is at street level, being your friendly neighborhood Spider-man.
>>151323277>slight sagginess of her titscope harder. those are breast implants on man, baby. Birthname: Jack Hardy.
>>151323278Scorpion is kind of a nice mix of threatening but also a loser
>>151323278this is why I liked ASM 800 with the random banger sending him to the hospital
>>151323616It's spandex, what do you expect?>Anon talks us about a bad experience
>>151316468Goblin
>>151323616
>>151316468HIMSELF
>>151321049>Hasn't Doc Ock been an ally for 10 years at this pointA similar argument could be made for Felicia, yet her and Doc Ock are both in that pic OP posted. I don't know when that pic was made, though.In Doc Ock's case, though, I was unaware of him being an ally in recent years. In my defense, I don't read comics and barely keep up with recent changes from recent comics. It doesn't help that I've seen Doc Ock as a villain in a few video games and multiple animated TV shows throughout the years (from one of the 80's Spider-Man shows to Spectacular Spider-Man). Oh, well.
>>151325438Paul is the most successful villain in comic book historyHe destroyed an entire universe and became the rentboy of a supermodel that did everything she could to defend his honor
>>151325627It really is quite incredible. Voici un spécimen extraordinaire!
Harry’s only meaningful stint as the Goblin came in the run leading to his death, when he finally faced the reality of his failure in the role. His lack of impact from the outset is why so many writers chose to hand the mantle to other characters rather than leave it with him. And let’s be honest: most of the preference stems from JMD, who’s the only one able to make certain aspects work; otherwise, people wouldn’t keep recycling the same panels every time this conversation resurfaces.
>>151316468Norman, Harry or Venom. I disagree with those saying Ock. He is just not on that level to me.
>>151320932Aye, the Goblin is no mask, no costume, no carnival trick. It is creed, covenant, faith hammered into iron and flame. The Green (Catholic) Goblin stands as tradition incarnate, the burden of sacrament and bloodline, the sins of the father carved into the flesh of the son. He kneels not for mercy but for penance, dragging the chain of failure like a rosary of shattered bones.Then rises the Orange(Protestant) Goblin, defiant, rebellious, casting off heritage as if scripture could be rewritten. He is reformer, usurper, thief of gospel, claiming the mantle without lineage, without suffering, without crucifixion of legacy.Two fires blaze in the night sky above New York. One bound to tradition, the other to rebellion. Both damned, both divine, both driven to prove themselves worthy of the Goblin’s gospel. And when the clash is done, one truth remains: The mantle is no salvation, no redemption. It is curse, heresy, crown of thorns that devours the soul of any who dare to wear it.https://youtube.com/watch?v=tfladPfvMrs&list=RDtfladPfvMrs&start_radio=1&pp=ygUaT3JhbmdlIGZhdGhlciBncmVlbiBtb3RoZXKgBwE%3D
>>151321145You would be wrong. The moment a Marvel editor was able to okay a comic that stated that the Peter we'd been following for decades was a clone and the real one was some guy named Ben Reilly it was game over.
>>151320882Funny enough, most of his best stories came after his death. It isn’t his fault he’s handled better outside the main Spider‑Man title
>>151325338Rogue round up fan art isn't really about keeping up with all the continuity as much as it's just a fun spread.
>>151327095It was supposed to be a fake-out, these kinds of stories happened all the time. Unfortunately the upper executives got lost in the sauce of trying to rid themselves of that bothersome marriage and thought that maybe it should be real after all.Though in truth, Spider-Man went downhill forever right after The Best of Enemies with Maximum Carnage ushering in the age of bloated spider-events, the clone saga just being a really extended version of this where you had to pick up all four titles to get a complete story instead of just following one book.
>>151327236I just take the clone saga as a way to spring board into MC2 Spider-Girl as the logical follow up.
>>151316468Morlun, Carnage, and Green Goblin have that sort of "final boss energy" you'd look for in a villain. Venom not as much since he borders between anti-villain/anti-hero too often that it's hard to see him as a villain.My best guess would either be a Devil version of Carnage (satanic looking with wings and horns), a Symbiote-infused Lizard, or it would be Fusion or someone unexceptionally bland.Fusion strikes me as the type to actually go out on a limb and either kill Spider-Man completely or actually serve as the final boss or antithesis to Spider-Man's career. Much like how Spider-Man lost Uncle Ben by playing himself in a wrestling match and letting the thug get away with the money, Fusion's son died trying to imitate Spider-Man. So it all comes full circle.The problem with Spider-Man's villains is that they lack any sort of tactfulness that would really make them push themselves to ending Peter's life. Doc Ock may have come close in Superior Spider-Man. But his run was ousted at the beginning the moment the series gave the impression that Peter would soon eventually have his body back because *no one* could fathom seeing Spider-Man die outside of Ultimate. It'd be too much to ask for. Which is why Spider-Man villains general, CCA regulations or not, lack the killer instinct to actually go out on a limb and actually intention themselves to kill him. Because again, it'd be too much to ask for.So yeah. Those are my two cents.
>>151316468If Spider-Man were a Shonen manga, then obviously Green Goblin.It makes the most sense thematically
>>151327644It makes the most sense thematically anyways you dingus. Shounen wouldn't add any shit to this.
>>151316468Chameleon. It should be an exciting psychological conflict where Chameleon does his best to ruin Peter's life out of pure selfishness, envy, stupidity, and resentment for being forgotten/neglected as "Spider-Man's first villain". >Probably call back to Chameleon having feelings for Peter?
>>151327839>Spider-Man's first villain".Boy neither he or Ultra Humanite get any respect do they.
>>151316468
>>151321049SpOck got his own OMD and has been a villain since then
>>151316468Morlun
Just go full on knuckle out sinister six.
>>151327839>>151327872It's funny Chameleon is considered neglected/forgotten as a central Spider-Man rogue but he actually appeared in more comics than villains such as Rhino and Electro. Rhino actually didn't fight Spider-Man for another 20 years after his first appearances by Romita/Lee.
>>151327644Explain.
>>151329009I think it's just that a lot of the other villains have more of a hook. More a shtick. More flash. It's not like there's no overlap among the other villains but when Mysterio does everything you do better and with more theatrics you kind of get left out in the cold. Though honestly it's Scorpion I feel the worst for. By all accounts he should be the cool counter spider villain but everyone is gay for symbiotes.
>>151329083Just take Scorpion's hatred of Spider-Man and JJJ to extremes and reinvent him as a Eobard/Black Manta kind of figure.Hell, take a page from Sabretooth's book and have him celebrate the anniversary of JJJ's death by tormenting Jonah (and Spider-Man for failing to save her).You could actually do something worthwhile if writers would just stop making him a dumb brute who's only there to get punched out in an obligatory fight scene.
>>151327654Rude>>151329022>Spider-Man’s powers come from Oscorp>Aka the villain creates his own adversary>But the hero is also a huge reason for the villain to exist>Therefore, their existences are intertwined >The villain is revealed at the end of the first arc but is not completely defeated>The hero defeats other secondary villains while the main villain stays in the shadows>Only comes out for the final confrontation Bendis did right by Pete and Norman killing each other in one final struggle
Goblin, Ock, or Kraven (the REAL Superior Spider-man)
>>151318151Gock Doblin
>>151320994Nice, MJ with those fat bimbo lips.God, remember when she was a model and not a IM A GIRL WITH IMPORTANT JOB character?
>>151330010>Spider-Man’s powers come from Oscorplol secondary
>>151316481Kek we goin meta now?
>>151330010>>Spider-Man’s powers come from OscorpYou're an idiot. >>But the hero is also a huge reason for the villain to existHas been a common aspect of the super hero genre for years.
>>151328364>>151322591Thats Right! Jack Hardy Pegging Peter Parker in the ASS missionary style
>>151330010>>Spider-Man’s powers come from OscorpOnly in 1610 and that's a subplot for the super soldier program arms racein 616 its an a science expo that radiates a random spider that bites him
OOA decides Peter has had enough shit happen in his life and gives him the power to assrape Mephisto
>>151316468Mephisto... who is drawn suspiciously like Quesada.
>>151323844Yeah Scorpion is a good high-tier jobber to be Pete's last villain, good point. Or like, Electro (classic outfit only)
>>151330111Nta but I'm pretty sure anon is referring to how the spider that gave Peter Parker his powers was a genetically engineered spider created at Oscorp in the Ultimate Marvel continuity comics since Bendis is getting reference6.
>>151331684Would Felicia want to try pegging
>>151332779She's the one you would initiate, not ask permission, and Peter take it like the Beta bottom he is.
>>151332779I hope so
>>151316492>>151316552>>151318151Normal should die earlier before the final boss
