>racist>remorseless sociopath >hitler wannabe>in a relationship with a rapist pimp and beats the shit out of his whores for funHe’s the only interesting faggot character in recent years. Why are most shows afraid to make their homos bad people?
idk but he's fun
>>151317167>>151317194He’s not a homo he’s bisexual
wouldn't hell overtaking heaven break reality or something. imagine being religious and thinking you'll go to heaven but heaven is just hell because of some naive lesbians
>>151317224We've never seen any evidence of thatonly of gayness
>>151317247it really doesn't matterfrom all we've seen from shit like helluva boss, the human world is just as batshit insane as hell (or heaven)it's all just a divine comedy (tm)
>>151317167When every character is a fag, you can make the fags evil because we have Chaggie wholesome gaying for representation while everyone else can beat and rape eachother
There are currently nine Hellverse based threads on here. How long until we get the My Little Pony treatment and our own board, if the show stays as popular as it is?
>>151317466It's only because the series is airing, in a couple weeks it will calm down
>>151317167Racist?
>>151317167It takes zero effort to be any of those things
>>151317167The people’s voicehttps://x.com/shmo_afterdark/status/1984679469018178035?s=46
>>151317466Because people aren't putting Hazbin Hotel in their subjects so new threads keep getting made
Alright bumblefucks, what would happen if we threw the Halo ring above Hell and activated it?
>>151317194He’s so retardedly cute. He doesn’t torture Alastor, just takes him on a milkshake date and makes him watch him get laid, probably having a Freudian Slip and moaning out Alastor’s name instead.Alastor rejected him, making him angrily seeth for years until his ego got big enough he thinks he can become a god, but he really really wants Alastor to watch it happen, it’s like he thinks Alastor will beg to be his concubine or something
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>>151317466the day after /dbs/ posting gets banned
>>151318041imo it was clever writing to have him sit in the cuck chair, it removes the implication vox might have groped him some deer tail while he had him captive.
>>151318058never ask a wannabe hitler what race his femboy is
>>151318073He could just rape Alastor to please himself, but he doesn’t think that’s as fulfilling. He wants to earn cute deer by being the strongest boyo ever!And he wants to be raped by Alastor more than his urge to be the rapist
>>151318041he saves all the rough stuff for angel
>>151317466TIME FOR A NEW BOARD>ALASTOR LOOKS LIKE AN EDGY PRICK
>>151317466>board initials are /HH/oh no
>>151318041>He doesn’t torture AlastorYou may have missed half an episode. And a song
>>151317167>Why are most shows afraid to make their homos bad people?Because during the 90's-00's there was outcry from the gay community that homosexuals were too often portrayed as homicidal killers, serial killers, and generally villains in media. Most killers or villians were shown to be homosexual as a way to validate why they were acting evil or why they became evil or to accentuate the fact they were different. Gay advocates starting pushing against this and here we are.
>>151317167>greentextSoooo... Trump if he just didn't give a shit and embraced every label thrown at him?
>>151318318IIRC it was either they were psycho killers or extremely brutalized victims, in which case I get it. Viv deserves some crumbs because she's willing to show LGBT characters that are neither purely evil or purely good.
>>151317167>Most evil character in Hazbin hotel >Leads an invasion of heaven >Demons calling themselves the resistance movement >Media is satanic>Villain song uploaded on YouTube by Amazon with DEI on the title https://youtu.be/C86kilmGHGY?si=Pw03kRvDmHa5AXkpWhat did Vivziepop mean by this?
>>151318339I always think it's stupid for someone to look at a color of skin or sexuality and go 'Oh it's saying black/gays are evil". Evil is evil. Buffalo Bill is evil because he skins women to make a dress, not because he is a crossdresser. If he were making a business suit he wouldnt suddenly seem less crazy.
>>151318348>>151317167>No Hitler or other racists in hell>just lgbt CharacterWhat Vivziepop mean by this?
>>151317167new hazbin merch
>>151318318the trouble is that with social media and the general accelerated pace of the outrage machine, the dial for what is acceptable and then for what is boring is turning so fast it's looping>>151318411>he doesn't stan gay tv hitler
>>151318041We all know what Vox really wants.
>>151318411I think it's funny as fuck the main protags are dykes and the main villians are faggots
>>151317167>>151318058>racist>because he dressed in a costume>in an song where he kept changing his accent and style
>>151318492Okay but none of the other styles were racially insensitive.
>>151318435It's inversing too. Gay people just want all their villains to be white straight men in important positions to their plot. You can make non-whites villians for the same reaon. THis leads to dead end stories and oddly limits the roles and stories that can be told. Mostly because instead of concentrating on telling a good to great story theyre focusing on creating a propaganda piece of their own design. That's how they think of fighting back. "We'll make our own lies!"
>>151317167This but unironically Gay characters are usually uwu softboys or super serious dude i.e. Shiro from VoltronGive me problematic. Give me fun. Give me messy. Give me fag variety
>>151318058>cha cha cha!
>>151318466>>151317167>>151318348Why is /co/ so obsessed with smiling friends being the chud show when Hazbin hotel and Helluva Boss are unironically closer to a cartoon /pol/ would make? I’m almost convinced Vivziepop or someone at the writing a closeted /pol/ poster at this point.
>>151317167There is now enough positive representation of gay people that having villains that happen to be gay (as opposed to villains whose gayness is a sign of cause of them being evil) is no longer seen as homophobic.Similar to how for a while you couldn't really have black villains because that would be racist, but now you can because there's more black heroes. We even have black evil CEOs, progress!I think that trans people are still seen as too oppressed and marginalized for you to get away with having a trans villain, unless it was in a series with tons of other trans characters that are good guys.
>>151318502None of them were racially insensitive, he did a southern accent with the cowboy and spoke latin to the latina
>>151318565Also funny because Zach Hadel made a cameo in the most recent episode.
Reminder that Vox is not truly racist until he calls Alastor a nigger to his face
>>151318492>stoic no-nonsense woman who has a subdued color palette, likes ballet and manufactures weapons>well she's Latina so wearing a sombrero and shaking maracas will win her overIt was racist because he was assigning a stereotype to Carmilla just because she's Latina and ignored anything else about her he could've appealed to, not because he put on a big hat and sang in Spanish. Dude could've sung Carmen at least.
>>151318297He electrocutes him but that's no worse than what they do to each other in their slap fights. Compare that to what he does to Angel >>151318241 there's a clear difference.>>151318159Vox's biggest protection from Alastor is that Alastor knows he'd probably be a bit too into any physical payback Alastor doles out to him. Brushing him off and ignoring him would be the most psychologically devestating thing Alastor could do to him.
>>151318606Enormous angel wing speakers for projecting him screaming the wordWould be a great season finale
>Bad With Us sing-along was marked as for kids>when the first line of the song is 'holy shit'Thanks youtube
He still shat his pants here a little. Lu being captured will be so retarded tho
>>151318663lucifer did just blow out every window in his building
>>151318663I still don't know how Vox will pull this off. All I can think is blessed rope/angelic weapons work on Lucifer after all and Viv backed off her old claims that they don't. Which is fair enough, a lot of old claims aren't relevant anymore.
>>151318663he pissed his pants here
>>151318803>fuck did I do that?
>>151317194>order just one smoothie while Alastor is sitting right thereBy far the worst thing he did in that episode
>>151318803You have to appreciate the little moments the animators put in that you can so easily miss.
>>151318411It means that Vivziepop’s god forgives all sins except sodomy.
Anyone see this yet?
>>151318872Yeah it was neat
can't believe we got robbed of the alastor makeover scenewhen he's in the egg chair in scream rain vel was supposed to have given him a makeover. There's even makeup and stuff behind him. It was cut for time.
>>151318892Alastor ate the makeup pens too.
>>151318892>Vox dressing up Alastor like himThat nigga gay as hell, asexual deer dick be driving women/gays crazy
>>151318892it's alright we have fanart
>>151318677yet can't smite anyone
If they couldn't Gaga who should play her? I'm thinking Susan Egan would be good.
>>151318872>I only fuck 10/10s....and Vox.
>>151318566cucumber quest had a trans villain, then they hastily made some random good guy character trans as counterbalanceundertale did the same, mettaton was easily the most villainous character in the cast, so they made some random character a transgender catgirl in the switch updateso you can get away with homoqueer villain, you just have to make the hero queerhomo as well.
>>151318945Only Sinners. His punishment is being forced to watch the consequences of giving Humanity free will to commit evil.
>>151318945But he should be able to at least beat the crap out of them?
>>151319139No, he can't in general attack sinners. The whole point of his punishment is seeing the negative outcome of his gift of free will to mankind, and being unable to in any way halt it. Every time Valentino rapes somebody in Hell, that's on Lucifer, and he can't even stop it.
>>151318297Does that count? All he really did was tie him up and electrocute him for like three seconds
>>151319162Its just a stupid retcon to compensate for the incompetent season 2 writing.
>>151319219just a bit of foreplay
>>151319120Cute and bratty Vox expression
>>151319234Not really, it's a perfectly logical punishment for Lucifer, and it is fairly novel. I say this as somebody who hopes he gets to reprise his fake-badass song and brutalize Vox.
>>151319120right but if he can blow up their whole building no sweat, why not just blow up the stage? If that broken glass fell into the street it'd probably kill a few people - I just don't understand why he's completely impotent. At WORST - call up a hit squad from mammon's fat ass or something
>>151319271He should be smacked
>>151318820Unseen moment that Vox censored to upkeep his image: Vox getting one of those dramatically big heart two person straws to share with Alastor
>>151319287The answer is Viv doesn't want anyone to think too hard about it because what's important is it means Charlie just can't call on Lucifer to fix all of her problems but Viv doesn't want him completely removed from the playing field either.
>>151319275Its a retcon of what was established in season 1 and defending it is retarded.
>>151318293perfect, exactly as planned
>>151319234Yeah, that's just stupid. If they can make him not able to hit sinners, why not do the same against angels? Adam would win in a cinch.
>>151319287>>151319321remember that angels can't be harmed in hell only with angelic weapons?I know one angel who lost an arm because some debree fell on itSo you can kill angels by throwing rocks at them
>>151319337Name one thing it retconned from season one.
>>151318454>Vox tries to hypnotize Alastor into proposing to him cutely, backfires by Alastor playing along until Vox is so into his fantasy that flipping the script mentally breaks Vox>Vox kills himself>Season endsAbsolute Cinema!
>>151319337He didn't harm any sinners in season 1
>>151319321This. All the whining about finding loopholes is stupid and pedantic. The point is Lucifer isn't an insta win button and that hell is primarily his punishment, not his playground to play despot king despite giving himself the king title.
>>151319407'Cause when Heaven decided Lucifer's punishment they didn't think they'd ever have to deal with him again. If the exterminations were from year one, then they would've thrown in him being unable to hurt angels.>>151319412Yeah but it doesn't make for a good story if Lucifer has to drop rocks on people. Again, the point was to remove Lucifer as a magical band-aid for every problem Charlie struggles with.
>>151319412not to be that guy but Lute's arm was merely trapped under rubble - SHE ripped it off herself to get free
>>151319494She may be stupid
>>151319478But it would be funny as hell if vox was so sure of himself that Lucifer can't harm him just to get hit by a rock
>>151319417Alistor and any of the overlords ever having been human. The Spirit being powerless in "hell". Lute mattering at all. Etc., take your pick.
>>151319494You can't rip your arm off if it's not damaged
>>151319461I'm confused by all the people confused as to why he can still hurt angels. Because it's not his punishment. Him being stuck in Hell isn't like coded in his DNA, it's a magical invisible chain.
>>151318803Seems to be pissing himself a lot lately>>>151317996
>>151319528>Alistor and any of the overlords ever having been human.I don't recall that ever not being the case. If it was then that's super fucking old lore that was irrelevant even before the pilot.>The Spirit being powerless in "hell". Who???>Lute mattering at all.They're clearly setting Lute up to be the main villain of s3 like they did with the Vees in s1.
>>151319537Because they're stupid as fuck. And the complaining that his cosmic punishment should include not being able to hurt angels makes no sense because hurting angels wasn't his mistake and he can't get to Heaven anyways.
>>151319528Are you high? This is gibberish.
>>151319555> They're clearly setting Lute up to be the main villain of s3 like they did with the Vees in s1.It could be Sera, Lute, and Abel
>>151319610Be nice to Viv, it’s her first day on 4chan
>>151319537I thought he wasn’t allowed to hurt angels either, so long as they don’t harm hellborn? I mean wasn’t that why he waited until Charlie got attacked to intervene?
Getting killed by Lute would genuinely be a less stupid way to solve the Lucifer problem.
>>151319650That was a separate agreement made 7 years ago for the exterminations. It's disconnected from his original punishment.
>>151319589>he can't get to Heaven anyways.If he can't, why do they need a forcefield to protect heaven.
>>151319665I want Lute to kill everyone and do a demonic ritual to bring Adam back
>>151319650That was part of the deal for the exterminations and it was definitely more of a pinky-promise agreement than a magically binding one.
>>151319665Lute's a lewd
>>151319665How is that less stupid if the whining is mostly about power scaling and not nerfing Lucifer? Lute shouldn't be able to even scratch him if we're playing by power levels are king rules.
>>151318415ORANGE MAN RAYCIST, ORANGE MAN BWAD
>>151319555>The Spirit being powerless in "hell".>Who???Look, man, the lore the show draws on existed before the show was ever made. I can't fault you for not knowing, but its crazy disappointing to see such wild divergence in season 2 after how close they nailed season 1.
>>151319665Lucifer's way too important to be killed by someone like Lute and her killing him would be absolute bullshit if we're being honest.
>>151319665...That'd actually be amazing.>Lute kills Lucifer in revenge or to save Heaven or both>He doesn't resist, sacrificing himself to stop the impending Heaven-Hell war, so he is redeemed and goes back to Heaven, promptly is snatched up by Speaker, and gets five seconds to say goodbye before bird mommy dips out to bring him to God>For the crime of murdering an archangel Lute is cast down to Hell, probably getting orbital-strike-punted straight into sinner Adam
>>151319704His name's Lucifer you idiot, not "The Spirit".
>>151319665Abel would want to kill Lucifer because Charlie killed his dad.
>>151319721Lute is catapulted into a kiss with Adam and falls into his arms, kino
Lutefags latching onto that leak was pretty funny because there's no situation where Vaggie isn't the easier and more accessible target. Lute's insane but she's not "I can solo Lucifer without any kind of backup or powerful weapon" insane.
>>151319731Its catholic lore, the spirit exists and needed the son to be made holy because why? Whose fall caused it to be "imprisoned" in the fleshy "hell"? What is the living aspect of the infinite? I really don't blame you for not knowing or understanding. At least in your ignorance you are safe from knowing how disappointing it all is.
>>151319721Sinner Adam will never make sense. And Lucifer getting killed by Lute doesn’t work when Lute is focused on Vaggie and doesn’t really see Lucifer as the target. Abel is more likely to attack Lucifer to screw him over his mom and Charlie over his dad, but there’s some weapons thing Abel would be involved with to hate a certain brother.Sera actually despises Lucifer and is one of the few that would get in Lucifer’s way directly, preventing him from intervening with the war.
>>151319810What did it look like?
>>151319810Lute will marry Vaggie to really piss off Charlie
>>151319810Oh yeah, she's just a psychotic bitch. It's why I'm proposing Lucifer outright permitting the murder and welcoming it as the way it works out. It robs Lute of any sort of satisfaction from the kill, and then she gets the most twisted possible form of happy ending with>>151319765This. It technically clicks all the boxes for what she'd want.>Revenge? Yes, but Lucifer's going to meet fucking God again, and he's considered redeemed. >And it also gets her banished.>Adam? She even gets him back!>But he is a sinner, and honestly comfortable in Hell.>>151319835Sinner Adam makes perfect sense as a balancer to that redemption is possible. Heaven has people in it who just plain don't deserve a better afterlife; them being able to go down same as good people can go up would, thus, create two afterlives of some sort of balance.There's Heaven, which is the place for normal, reasonable people who just want to relax after a long, draining mortal life, to be with their loved ones and rest, and then there's Hell, which is a cutthroat free-for-all for people who aren't satisfied even in death.Also, Lucifer's presumed role in the war is 'giant death beam battery', Sera's not intervening in that since he'll probably be in Hell.
>>151319849It's just a storyboard of Lucifer on the ground with only his hand in the shot and Charlie standing in front of him. People speculated that Lute would at the last minute change her mind and go after Lucifer. If it is real we know he's probably just knocked out after being used as a battery for Vox's weapon.
>>151319810That "leak" was always the weakest of them but the salivating over Lute being that important and Lucifer dying was too strong for anyone to be rational. The funniest part is that nothing about that "storyboard" implied Lute had anything to do with it.
I'll be honest with you, I absolutely don't buy Abel being any sort of a serious threat.>but VoxVox may have been comedic as well, but at least it was established that he's a narcissistic megalomaniac and honestly, he only felt like a joke in comparison to Vivzie's pet Alastor who always has to look cool, scary and dignified. (the only reason he jobbed to Adam is to show how dire the stakes are and how powerful Adam is as a Big Bad of the season)The only traits of Abel we've seen so far is "fat retard". I could maybe buy it if he's secretly doing a "I was only pretending to be retarded" gig for whatever reason, but for now not so much.
>>151317167Another "durr trump = hitler" cartoon. This will never get old.
>>151317167>>151318553I don't want any faggot character in my media, period.
>>151319912I wouldn't rule out Abel undergoing some kind of development because his wishy-washiness kind of sticks out, but it's pretty clear his role in season 2 is to just stop Lute from doing anything before season 3.
>>151319835I don't find Sinner Adam as relevant anymore, but I want it solely for the narrative making it clear that Adam was wrong in his actions and has to make amends in order to be redeemed just to fuck over his fans even more. I'm crossing my fingers for Viv to btfo ultimate Eden victim Adam too.
>>151317224>He's faggot only half of the time at bestOk
Omega Vox and VOX DEI goes so hard that it makes me upset the writing in ep 5 is so bad.Imagine this moment with great writing, it'd be one of the alltimers
>>151319912The only way i see Abel being a serious antagonist is if he has a realization soon that he’s lived coddled in Heaven for too long, and he feels like his loss of innocence is too big to push down and ignore anymore and then decides to lead the exorcists. I want it to be an actual arc with an interesting song (maybe a Gravity reprise?) and not just that he fooled everyone by acting stupid!!1!1!He has the chance to be interesting, but I doubt that they’re actually going to go that route.
>>151317167i had a dream where vox was really tiny because in hell you become smaller the more powerful you become, which explained why lucifer was short
>>151320005Niffty is the true final boss of Hazbin Hotel.
>>151319912Given that Piggiepop is a fat, liberal, taco-goblin, its pretty obvious that Abel's only role is to represent the "indecisive, 'mediocre', white male in power due to privilege" archetype that leftists and brown "people" rag on about to deflect from being called DEI hires.His only role is to be a spineless white male character who allows le evil Hitler-Lute to take power.
>>151319878>Sinner Adam makes perfect sense as a balancer to that redemption is possible. Heaven has people in it who just plain don't deserve a better afterlife; them being able to go down same as good people can go up would,Lucifer got into Hell because he infected mankind with Roo, and the sinners of Hell, when they die, leave behind eyes that Roo watches from. Sinners are Roo-infected beings. Adam needs something like this to become a Sinner.Lucifer is still an incredibly dangerous scumbag that casually uses Roo gateways (the Apple) to power himself up (causing him to resemble sinners). Just because he’s nice, it doesn’t mean he isn’t a disgustingly irresponsible destructive person. Sera looks at him as the boogie man for a reason. Satan felt abandoned by him.
>>151320005Vox, but 10x smaller and 100x brattier
>>151320005I had a dream where Angel Dust and Baxter were revealed to be the true villains and I had to fight them in a warehouse and save Cherri from them.>captcha: PASSY
>>151318872>that part where he wishes Vox had fat tits and describes how he'd suck on them
>>151319812do you cry that evangelion took christianity to look cool in the show and didnt actually understand or use it biblically accurate too? lmao
>>151320033I never cared enough to get into the lore from before the pilot/most stuff said by Viv so i get mad every time someone mentions Roo because that’s the most retarded name ive ever heard
bros, there's just an incalculable amount of loose threadsthis shit is going to crash and burn in the next 2 episodes
>>151320033Well, Adam led a fundamentally pointless genocide of untold billions, going off of Season 1 numbers, sinners, all in the name of, above all, entertainment and bloodlust, since that's what he focuses on in his song. Sucks to suck, but he was a scumbag, and a far more malicious one than Lucifer, since Lucifer fucked up once and then was stuck with his punishment, while Adam continually sinned for seven years and to vast consequences. Including the about to occur war.>appleOh no it's the schizo
>Sympathetic Adam and badass untouchable Lucifer fans having days long meltdowns>They're still here making meta and fanart thoughSome of the fans of this show are like battered wives kek. Just leave if you're so crushed that your headcanons weren't real
>>151320071His punishment in the finale will be getting forcefemmed and married off to a random lucky sinner
>>151317167>implying any of that is a bad thing
>>151319812>catholic loreAnon, in Season 1 the leader of the heavenly army is Adam. That's from fucking Mormonism.
>vox invades>figures out it's not a small place and he has no idea where the actual cities are >dies roaming the cloud desert for 1000 years
>>151320074Its neat that you only care about cool looking pictures. How very nice for you to be so simple.
>"It's Catholic lore"Bro this is your Lucifer what makes you think anyone cares about the lore?
>>151320033I must have missed the episode that confirmed all of this that you saw. Do share the link so I can watch it too.
>>151320165Lucifer is famously pansexual in catholic lore
>>151320175But is he also pookie?
>>151320170Lu should’ve done this
>>151318553>>151317167>6'4>born in Afghanistan of all places>cocky and sassy personality but actually funny >skipped the closet and went right for the clubs>implied to have been depressed before and even tried to suicide by superhero after which he turned his life aroundFlambae is a fresh of breath air and mogs 90% of /co/ fags despite being a secondary character
If Lucifer is such a pussy, then what did he meant by saying >you don't take shit from other demonsto Charlie
>>151320186He is a bit of a soft boyhe cries a lot
>>151320215He meant Proper demons, not lowly little sinners.
>>151320122Spiritless adamites who never tasted of the fruit have never been important and the symbolic death of Adam in season 1 is a shot at the heretical modern churches for their self imposed blindness while also re-illuminating aspects of the path of salvation from death for the light.
>>151320212Is the symbolism in Adam's death that deranged half-japanese women will be the death of the church
>>151317167This show is highly satanic it has DEMONS in it. It's like you want to upset christians
>>151319337>his first appearance is a sinner saying to his face "your daughter cals me daddy too" without consequences >in the same episode he does nothing to help against a bunch of sinners who were literally attacking his daughter's homeDo you even know what "retcon" means or you just find the word cool?
>>151320215Charlie doesn't have any chains on hershe's just a pussy who hasn't developed her powers as is obvious when you compare her weak fireworks displays compared to what Lucifer can dish out
>>151320032He might have a redemption arc where he grows a spine though. Of course it will probably involve him stepping down from power to let some nig-coded angel take power in his place lol
>>151319979If Adam was wrong in his actions, he would simply remain dead. No bad guy gets second life chances in Hell or Heaven, period. Only the redeemed get it.And fact is, the only good person Hell ever had was Pentious. And all of them are blood-thirsty sociopaths that make Adam nearly break into tears by seeing them. And Lucifer (an enabler) and Lilith pretty much used them to wage war against Heaven constantly that the only ancient sinner left is Zestial by the time the seven years of extermination even started.Remember when Rosie said>”If there's any I've learned, it's that words are cheap, but actions, they speak for the truth. So, what have her actions said?"That’s a reference to Lilith. She never improved Sinners, she made them even worse. The message in Hazbin Hotel isn’t to simp for bad people, Eve/Roo is the prime example of this being wrong. There’s constant consequences from that kind of behavior from Charlie and Heaven in season 2. But idiots like this: >>151320098 are genuinely too stupid to woobie raping, murder-happy, abusive monsters and pretend they are “innocent”. They drive Pentious from a casual bad guy to being a super villain warlord, and the Hotel and Heaven put him to back what he is supposed to be.
>>151320139>BRAPPPP!Yes, many forms of media steal from the bible for 'cool themes' and don't actually care about being accurate to it. How new?
it's funny seeing charlie try to claim liliths actions before her disappearance weren't of violent intentshe was definitely too young or purposefully trying to block it out
>>151320215I mean, Charlie can stand up to Sinners without limit. It's probably why he isn't worried about her among them. But he likely wasn't talking about Sinners because he'd never suggest they were of a kind with his daughter.
>>151318058I love how even Valentino is ashamed of this shit.
2 DAYS UNTIL VALENTINO SINGS ABOUT WANTING REDEMPTION
>>151320032>>151320277Abel took the job abusing the assumption about him to make it seem like he’s a honey bun. But he is there to cause war like Lute and the Exorcist did. He smirks when he gets to put on the helmet.
>>151320330It's pretty clear that neither Vox or Charlie have the full story, otherwise the writing wouldn't keep highlighting how they both have opposite interpretations of Lilith's actions.
>>151320330She's either delusional or Lilith was feeding her lies. Likely about her dad, too, based on context clues. To be fair, Charlie shows some signs of awareness of this when she questions if Lilith would actually be proud of what she's trying to do. She's just not ready to take her mom off that pedestal.
Season 3:>10% Lilith bitch mom angst wank>90% Angel Dust family drama wank with wacky celebrity voice cameosAre you excited?
>>151320404angel dust getting as many songs focusing on him as vox had this season would make me quit the show
>>151320298>are genuinely too stupid to woobie raping, murder-happy, abusive monsters and pretend they are “innocent”. They drive Pentious from a casual bad guy to being a super villain warlord, and the Hotel and Heaven put him to back what he is supposed to be.Anon, the whole point of the show is that while the average Hell resident is fairly shitty, they're still probably a person who could be far better than they are and deserve a second chance, an opportunity to redeem themselves. Inside of every demon is a rainbow, as Charlie said. Sure, she's naive about that part to some extend, but the fundamental principle is literally the point of the show; the average Hell dweller isn't Valentino, it's some cashier at a shop Valentino might tangentially own. They're probably in a pit of mild despair about their situation, and don't think it can get any better, and that their only way up is via stepping on heads. They just need that second chance; they need an opportunity, a clear-cut statement that, no, Hell's not the end, you aren't suck in a dog-eat-dog hellscape, you don't have to be like the worst people in Hell to survive. >That’s a reference to Lilith. She never improved Sinners, she made them even worse.But she did improve sinners. She gave them all musical numbers. That's an improvement.
>>151320330I wonder why neither Charlie or Lucifer worry that Lilith isn’t safe. It makes me feel like Lucifer either knows where she is or somehow knows she's not in danger and relayed that to Charlie.
>>151320255If you understood what alastor is meant to really represent you would know his claim was not just a hollow boast. Of course the season 2 retcon which turned overlords into dead humans completely ruined any continuity with the underlying source material.
>>151320447They were literally always dead humansVivzie even drew a human alastor long before season 2 People got mad he was pretty white
>>151320447how was that retconned?overlords were sinners that gained power from the get golay off the pipe man
>>151320360Nah, there would be no reason to hide his maliciousness in the beginning of the season. He also seems scared shitless of Lute when she's throwing her tantrum. His role is to be the mediocre white male nepobaby archetype which is highly ironic since Viz is a mediocre nepobaby herself.
>>151320447Anon, Alastor and other overlords were meant to be dead humans since fucking forever. The whole 'Alastor got shot by a hunter who thought he was a deer' thing predates the pilot.>underlying source materialWhat source material do you refer to?
>>151320447nigger what?overlords were humansthe pre-s1 audition pages mention such (alastor being a serial killer, vox being a cult leader when alive etc) and mentions what years they died for some, like ValentinoWhatever old lore you have hasnt been relevant since before season 1
>Lucifer was powerless to harm the Sinners he hates, makes him depressed>so Lilith comes up with a plan to piss Heaven off so they’d send death squads to kill Sinners>thought it would be a great gift to her hubby, and they could spend it watching and laughing at total Sinner deathI really want Lilith to be some turbo evil but loving bitch
>>151320375It’s very obvious that Lilith is a liar. Otherwise, Adam wouldn’t be so cautious of Charlie and the Hazbin Hotel. Charlie basing the hotel on Lilith’s “dream” and the lack of ancient sinners makes it more clear on what actually happened when Lilith did it.It isn’t the first time Adam heard “I want to make the sinners better, with the hope they will be redeemed. To reunite them with you,” and accepted it.Only for these sinners to actually becoming top-level soldiers that died in the Heaven-and-Hell war. With the only exception being Zestial, Cain, because he actually did want redemption and see his father again. And instead end up being one of the strongest sinners of Hell, a vagabond.
>>151320447they have been dead humans since the pilotare you holding onto totally different zoophobia era lore or something
>>151320447You guys seriously need to learn what retcon means.
>>151320447https://imgur.com/a/hazbin-hotel-audition-sheets-Rhs4bvmHere's S1's audition sheets post pilotAlastor was a radio host when alive in the 1930'sVox was a cult leader when alive
The Lilith who disappeared right before the uprising and exterminations was Eve. The real Lilith, if she was planning something, was probably aiming for a more peaceful demonstration to try and get Heaven to renegotiate their terms with Lucifer. Then she gets swapped, Eve repurposes her plans to make it an actual uprising, blabs to Heaven about it then bounces after the exterminations are decided. That's how Vox and Charlie are both technically right.>but wouldn't Charlie notice her mom trying to start an actual uprising?Charlie didn't realize she could go outside until seven years ago, please understand. She is very dumb.
>>151320428The massive issue I see is that anons are forgetting that Adam never got the chance to make a judgement about redeemed Pentious. When this was the same Adam that knew Eve sinned and still accepted her into his life. And he would want sinners to actually become good people. It’s incredibly unlikely he would reject redeemed Pentious.
>>151320526It has been used as a buzzword for "stuff I don't like" for so long that it lost all meaning
>>151320471>Viz is a mediocre nepobaby herself.Nepobaby sure, but that's just life. Mediocre? She started her own animation studio and sold out to big daddy bezos and is living the dream. Even had the foresight to apparently keep the merch rights.
Is the guy going on about the Overlords being retconned actually thinking about the Sins?
>>151320551I really hope Eve does in fact accidentally create her own replacement, Lute, because of all of the evil she did and kept on doing.
>Vox's big plan is to use Lucifer as as some kind of weapon against Heaven>The guy who already got his ass beat by HeavenIs the show going to point out how stupid this is?
>>151320601Hes probably conflating sins and overlords yeahSins were never and arent humans
>>151320619We don't know the actual circumstances of Lucifer being kicked out of Heaven, especially since Michael doesn't seem to exist. Might've taken a whole army of seraphim to get him out for all we know. Given Lucifer's personality I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't even a fight.
>>151320619He’s literally just gonna plug some wires into Lu to use him as a battery to power whatever weapon Carmilla built. Lucifer doesn’t need to have any level of competence in this plan.
What will she do?
>>151320677This
>>151320471>>151320577Abel is someone who never got the chance to do anything in life because of Cain. And he will prove himself in the season finale of season 2 to actually be a very powerful dude with capabilities surpassing Lute’s. It will be epic for the moment, but will make you realize that he is there to brutalize sinners.
Post Val.
>>151320577>LMAO @ this simp.Her writing is shit, her character design was/is far from exceptional compared to many other artists, her politics and messages are generic liberal bullshit. Almost any non-retarded artist could do what she's doing if they had rich parents.
>>151320697HE WILLBEREDEEMED!!!
>>151320684wait why does baxter have pentious' hat but teal in this picture. did he always have that?
>>151317167Was Vox someone alive such as Jim Jones or is he entirely fictional?
>>151320375Lucifer also immediately walks back his kneejerk assurance that Lilith would be proud of Charlie when comforting her, which doesn't bode well.
>>151320779Generic cult leader but I always thought his mouth leaking red sometimes was a drink the koolaid reference
>>151320779He's entirely fiction.
>>151320619Maybe it's a ray-gun powered by Lucifer?
>>151320793>>151320797Kind of sad, he is stealing the show and Alastor's thunder so far. I kind of wish he was Jones
>>151320560>Adam knew Eve sinned and still accepted her into his lifeAfter getting kicked out of the Garden I imagine he didn’t have much else going for him and probably didn’t feel like he had much other choice. It was either fuck Eve, or let humanity end where it started. And considering he also personally values pussy over anything else in the world, and after losing Lilith, Eve was the literal only other pussy in existence, it seems a little obvious that he’d let her stick around. Doesn’t mean he respected her as a person or anything. I just can’t see him continuing their marriage as a huge benevolent forgiving sacrifice on his part.
>>151320484I don't know about this but evil but loving Lilith is my best case scenario, too. She's a horrible person but loves Charlie and is doing this all for her in a twisted way. And that she genuinely loved Lucifer even if she doesn't anymore. Then again, I think there may be a facet of the Eve or Roo twist that goes this route instead.
>>151320821He will probably be a referenceBut he died in the 50s so itll be some sort of christianity thingAnd hes implied to have committed suicide so we have that
>Adam in season 1 had seven wings imagery>Adam in season 2 had ascending imagery when referencing his death>Angel Dust and the Mob family don’t know Molly (whose death is likely tied to Angel killing his dad) is alive in HeavenMaybe Adam reappears at the end of season 3. But in a higher form.
>>151320837how do you commit suicide with a TV?
It'd be funny if Nifty stabbed Lute.
>>151320833You’re making this mistake that Adam also ate the apple and was punished in this series.When it’s more likely he chosen to go after Eve when only she was banished. Even when he was offered the chance to replace her.
>>151320837Vox Dei with "This is a declaration of HOLY WAR!" felt like a very Jones thing to say. I kind of wish Vox Dei was longer
>>151320854He probably didnt die to a TV despite the fanonHe has a lot of general suicide referencees though and looks freaked out after saying the hanging line for 1 frame (screen goes black and white with scared eyes)I would guess an evangelist that offed himself, maybe ON tv
>>151320821There are definitely family members of Jones' victims still around and Viv's not gonna want to deal with that.
>>151320560Adam fans are genuinely delusional. How many times do you have to get smacked with Adam just being an asshole in canon before it gets through? He thinks Sinners are worthless and perma-damned and can never and should never ascend.
>>151320870+ his cutesy crt form and church boy look back thenI think he totally believed he'd go to heaven
>>151320871Why is Viv such a pussy?
>>151320731I want to feel him.
>>151320876Do you act this way because you are bad person and you know it?
>>151320674It's a little lightning wand.
>>151320870during the transition to the super evil face?
>>151320904https://x.com/vvoxxdei/status/1988649021381156939?s=46When he does his hangman routine
>>151320693>Abel is someone who never got the chance to do anything in life because of CainOkay I’ll admit I never actually read the book. But I’m pretty sure that guy was a shepherd and that he had a wife and pumped out a few kids for the sake of the gene pool. These things might not seem like much now, but they were probably really important accomplishments for one of the first like five humans to exist. The dude probably invented the concept of using wool as clothing. That shit worked so well, we still do it.
>>151320677>Roo is the roots coming out of her mouth>The body is actually a possessed Lilith/Eve
>>151320821Jim Jones was pro civil rights and pro racial integration, so Vox is probably too racist to be him.
>>151320876Anon, the only ones who actually stay in the hotel for redemption in the story are Angel Dust, Pentious, Cherri, and that shark guy. And they are basically the only ones in the story that break the rule that all sinners will remain evil in hell forever and ever.
>>151320560>It’s incredibly unlikely he would reject redeemed Pentious.he killed him. if you killed an innocent person you'd convince yourself they had it coming, to preserve your own ego. we know adam has an ego made out of wet toilet paper.>>151320870i'm guessing he trod on a wire in such a way he accidentally hung himself
>>151320876This guys always has to make the conversation be about Adam too.
>>151320876I prefer Vox because of that. He has no delusions of being good, and he relishes the chance to act like a hammy narcissistic supervillain.
I don't care about Adam.I thought he was lame as a villain and if Vivzie would actually try to redeem him/make him more sympathetic, I still wouldn't care.
>>151320865I think we can both agree we are making up shit in our heads to fill in some blanks that the show has not fully explained.
>>151320920Abel was the younger brother and Cain was the older brother that had kids after he was banished.Abel had nothing. NOTHING.
>>151320891Tbf if someone I loved died in a horrific way that everyone knows about and then someone turns their murderer into a singing cartoon character I'd be unhappy. Especially since Vox isn't going to die or face any real consequences for this.
>>151320941> he killed him. if you killed an innocent person you'd convince yourself they had it coming,That entire ship was meant to kill Adam and a whole bunch of Exorcists. How else should he respond?
>>151320974ok so it IS likely he would reject redeemed Pentious? ok
I hope lute's Adam tulpa stays a very small characterHad enough of that guy in S1
>>151320854Drop it in a bathtub. Slam your face in it. Hang yourself with the cord. Get struck by lightning while clinging to the satellite dish. Eat one of the tubes and swallow the broken glass. Use an antenna to stab through your eyeball.
>>151320991You can't argue with an Adamfag these people are one debunked headcanon away from starting a cult out in Colorado and claiming Adam is Elvis Prelsy reincarnated and that Robin Williams is speaking to them through Adam.
>>151320991It’s Adam. It’s highly unlikely he will toss a redeemed kid of his to Hell unless said kid wants to be there. The problem is that you and Lute don’t realize this yet in the story.
>>151320960He had sheep, dammit!
why are adamfags >obsessed with the show being as accurate as possible to the bible>obsessed with adam being the most morally correct charactercant think of a single character fanbase that bad besides him
>>151321033No kids. While Cain manages to get them in Hell. Abel is a time bomb.
>>151321019
>>151321015bathtub suicide with a 50s TV would be impressive
>>151320991The idea of this Adam smacking redeemed Pentious on the back and going "great job, bro" is hilarious. You'd have to lobotomize him, first.
>>151321059I don’t think Cain was even allowed to go to Hell.
>>151321068Damn, is this why Lute will be the perspective character in season 3? So you both can get hit in the taunt.
>>151320968Same deal with Dhalmer's cooking show. Its fine when its a dumb background gag in your internet pilot or when you've made your mark for being unapologetically edgy, but when you've got lawyer's and execs calling you up when you're showrunning, its easier to just fall back on "Any resemblance to any person living or dead is purely coincidental." and get on with your day.
>>151321058I want to say it's sunk cost fallacy but we're barely 16 episodes into the show and Adam didn't even have a lot of screen time in season 1. They can stop watching whenever. I guess they want to see the only confirmed straight male character score a win.
>>151321058Adam is the only character in heaven to represent winners as Eve, Lilith, and Lucifer are the reps for Sinners.
>>151321129adam is deadyou can suck off sera and emily instead>eve lilithwe know little to nothing about them
>>151321127I find it bizarre that people treat Adam so unfairly when Vox gets to be in seasons 1 and 2 to honestly be exactly like Lucifer if he had less restrictions.Season 2 hints towards Lute’s perspective (the audience’s perception of him) to being incorrect.
>>151321167We don't need Lute's perspective on Adam's thoughts about Sinners and Heaven vs Hell. He spoke his own mind on that very plainly. He sang a whole song about it even.
>>151321015>this as a humorous montage
>>151321058it feels like we've had slightly less keyboard catholics getting mad the gay cartoon show is not bible accurate this season, which is nice
>>151321058I feel like it started as pure banter and then they got actually invested somewhere down the line.
>>151321167I wasn't treating Adam unfairly in my comment, I was pointing out that the amount of screen time he's gotten hasn't warranted your reverence for him.>Season 2 hints towards Lute’s perspective (the audience’s perception of him) to being incorrect.No it doesn't. I'm saying this so you don't spend another year convincing yourself that Adam is this super complex and morally superior person and are forced to move goal posts yet again when all that happens is an Eden flashback reveals "eh yeah he wasn't always a complete asshole". You can actually go help out at a church if you're so desperate to be a good and loyal Christian. You don't have to devote yourself to a cartoon character.
>>151320538Alastor is a metaphor which operates on multiple levels. On one level, the surface level, you have one of the most successful modes of controlling hell/earth ever devised in history, the radio. On the deeper level you have the prechristian creation myths of the light which posited their own explanations for the genesis of Spirit that were later subsumed into early Catholicism before being suppressed, taken off the air.
>>151321235isnt that most hazbin fans at this point? i don't know when but i actually became enough of a valentinofag to read some fanfiction with him in.
>>151321216They have definitely tapered off and I'm so surprised when one occasionally shows up.
angel's drag song sucked so if S3 is all about him it will be shit at least vox is funny despite all characters having to be dumbed down for his plan to work
>O my Seven Rings Vox, was that a fucking microagression? What do you mean by "ChaChaCha" you shitbag?? I might be a murdering, raping, torturing, blackmailing, date-rape drug selling soul/slave owner, but at least I'm not a RACIST! And even though I don't have any Latinx blood in me and am not personally offended like Val, that's just so fucking problematic and racist you scumbag! Shame on you Vee!
I think it says something about Adam (not good) that even Lute couldn't schizo him into being nicer to her. His first line was a joke about Lute being on her period.
>>151317284Its a based and creative spin on things. If they went with actual christian lore there would be no plotline
>>151321153Sera…. That chick blames everything on Lucifer and never had a true sense of love for the damned. She had to be told by the speaker to stop being a jerk for a day, but that red flag of a character had no considerations for exorcists. And casually dragged Abel (whose Dad just died) and Lute with her as if they’re not ticking time bombs that should stay away from this job now. And exposes them to sinners that want to start a war and laugh about Adam’s death. Sera doesn’t even think about Lute or Abel during that moment or afterwards. And instead does the worst thing and go into her big kaiju form. Her actions from season 1 and 2 never changed. She just felt bad and quickly dropped her guilt by realizing she doesn’t actually care about the sinners and wants them dead. If she never felt grief for them before they were redeemable, then why expect her to keep it after Hell strikes again?Emily has never seen sinners before till the Vox war campaign, and I’m afraid that chick might actually become a fallen angel very easily if she trusted a malicious one.
>>151317167the vox is a nazi schtick feels forced. he has a boyfriend and hes coworkers with a black woman. >t-the nazis had gays too!yes. masculine, closeted ones. not twinks in bowties taking mothdick on the daily
>>151321153>you can suck off sera and emily insteadBut I like Adam more.
>>151321372why would a sterile creature designed solely to kill even have a period>>151321359she just doesn't want it televised duh
>>151321376Its satire on the state of hell/earth post Jesus's defeat of death.
>>151321372It's just banter.
>>151317194i've seen those red eyes a lot in the background this season, mainly when angel enters that room before vox beats the shit out of him. So i guess Roo is always watching...
>>151321451It’s worth noting that these eyes originated from dead sinners.So when a Sinner dies, they leave behind the presence of Roo that enabled them to becoming Sinners in the first place.
>>151321417>why would a sterile creature designed solely to kill even have a periodBecause she’s still a woman, and periods are a curse on all womankind for original sin (in this universe. I assume.)It’s not like they’re necessary to breeding. Very few animals have them.
>>151321480Lute was never a human though and angels as a species predate humans.
>>151321491is lute 7 or is she older?
>>151321519Lute is older. Some reviewer says she has similarities with Eve.
>>151318334Trump is he wasn’t a nepo baby in his late 70s and had actual machiavellian political power
>>151321372How is he eating with his mask on?He doesn't actually look like that, from what I understand his (and the rest of Exorcists') masks are like one of those Purge-sque LED ones, just expressive.
>>151321538>How is he eating with his mask on?
>>151321538Reality bending is a very Adam thing to do.
>>151321332They have to do something with him that isn't just him being abused endlessly. Even his fans aren't invested in that anymore and are just cracking jokes about him being the show punching bag now.
>>151318502>insensitive???Why are leftists obsessed with this bizarre idea that displaying culture is wrong and bad and 'racist' ?
>>151321519We don't know. Ignore this guy >>151321532
>Sera in season 3 shows Adam flashbacks to try to radicalize Abel more for the war, it also makes Lute start to doubt on what she knew about Adam.
I predict that The Speaker of God will get a little reprise of Vox Dei.
>>151321538he ate ribs in first episode right? maybe he's just talented that way
>>151321574Vox putting on the outfit and singing in Spanish wasn't the issue it was assuming that's what would win Carmilla over just because she's a Latina even though nothing else about her says it'd work.
>>151321563>even valentino got bored with watching him be abused and fires him
>>151321410Don't question the Fuhrer.
>>151321632Sadly Liz Callaway isn't in any of the credits for the remaining songs.
>>151321410the point is hes a manbaby playing at the idea of being le fuhrer dictator cult god leader again like he did in life
>>151321646if he'd approached her with a flamenco she might have been into it
>>151321613I’m talking about a review of the show’s finale. That said med something about Lute having past experiences with Sinners. Which I see being true cause of Carmilla’s existence.
>>151321646> nothing else about her says it'd workAren’t all of her songs so far pretty latin influenced? I wanna say they sound like salsa or samba, but I really do not know enough about music genres to say anything confidentially. I think they at least use castanets.
>>151321672I think flamenco is more of a Spain thing.
>>151321729trueshe's got ballet shoes on, so that would have been the safest bet.
>>151321719>Aren’t all of her songs so far pretty latin influenced?Whatever It Takes was a typical ballad but Out For Love did have that Spanish guitar. But she's also very clearly a ballet dancer.
>>151321646Carmilla is literally the most boring character in the show.
>>151321871No that’s still Vaggie
>>151321871her daughters are worse, their designs arent even good
>trademarked her holes That's devious lol. You just know they made sex toys based off of her. How much you wanna bet they made her fuck around with high ranking clients? It looks like they got brothel signs on every street so you know the demand is there.
>>151321871I think she has some interesting hooks but her just yelling about "MY FAMILY" when her daughters have had no speaking lines is pretty ridiculous. Wouldn't be surprised if Viv is saving a lot of Overlord stuff in hopes of getting that Vees spinoff.
>>151321886In the end did they own her soul? Kind of got the impression we were being shown how the Vees amass soul contracts but it looked like they just shoved her out onto the street at the end
>>151321871>>151321891She only exist for Zestial and Abel drama.
>>151321905I don't think so. Or maybe they did and then released her from it cause they were done with her, I dunno. The real deviousness is velvet cauze she's a woman too. She does not give a fuck.
Amazon teased some scenes of the new episodes with an ad on time's square So, my theory on what this scene is >Abel is not taking well his visit to hell, he now understands what hell is capable of and how evil can some of the people there be >Lute is manipulating him into going into the deep end like Adam >Lute is grooming Abel to be Adam 2.0 >Season 3 is either the two of them as villains or Lute as a villain with Abel as a redeemable villain
>>151321996Lute is fattening Abel up to be Adam 2.0
>>151321871zestial is the definition of potential man
>>151321996>Abel is not taking well his visit to hell, he now understands what hell is capable of and how evil can some of the people there beNah. He knew. He got on that seat to kill sinners in the first place.He’s pretending to be ignorant to ease Emily and Lute in.
>>151322082ABEL PLEASEANGEL IS KINDA HOMELESS
>>151321996Sera might be in the scene.
>>151321996The free chocolate strikes again
>>151321891Jews or more accurately Judaism, Carmella represents. One of the most effecicacious overlords of hell/earth in operation. Most concerned with of course, themselves and their nature remaining obfuscate. Wouldn't want all of hell having an uprising if they connected the blood ties to the wellspring, right?
>>151322113What does that even mean?
>>151322140girl i didn't understand any of this
>>151322151You posted Abel doing the ishowspeed facehttps://youtu.be/YJdCpltq-_k?si=9xHko2egbHZRWLMs
How come this show which you'd think only appeals to fujos become so popular (among non-fujos too)?
>>151322182Japanese people unironically love this shit and make 99.9% of fanart
>>151322182People like adult comedies and other people like musicals
>>151322164they should have shown him being made up by velvette
>>151322182its pretty original, by virtue of vivziepop being 10 years behind the zeitgeist. even the ways it is bad are not generally seen in other things currently airing
>>151322173Shouldn’t it beEVE IS KINDA HOMELESS
>>151322199Season 2 has so far lacked songs which I can enjoy singing, in contrast to season 1 which was Broadway style musical hits from front to back.
>>151322236Love In A Bottle redeems the entire season
I thought Carmella was named after the lesbian vampire
>>151322182It's because of the art styleCompared to what's already on the market it's unique and doesn't look like bean mouth or rick and morty rip off
>>151322270Yeah truePeople can shit on it being smiley sexymen but... It's unique enough that everyone goes "hazbin hotel" and not just "calarts"
So wait, is Kain somewhere in hell?
>>151322286The most you'll find is that it looks like a invader zim rip off or a deviant art show but there's not many shows that look like that either
>>151322293Nah he's on earth driving a taxi
>>151322303Only other show to be the product of that 00s deviantart era is Villainous and it didn't explode the way Hazbin did.>>151322293We don't know.
>>151322293Zestial is most likely him.
>>151321409>She just felt bad and quickly dropped her guilt by realizing she doesn’t actually care about the sinners and wants them dead.I don't think its that so much as she's reevaluating how many sinners actually want to be redeemed. She allowed the exterminations in the name of Heaven's security and called them off when it was revealed there are mitigating circumstances to wholesale slaughter. Heaven is still threatened, and they can't just dictate that anyone seeking redemption is safe because then everyone just says they do to get a pass. Their problem is they REALLY suck at diplomacy and leveraging their superior position. Once Vox started spinning it as Hell getting a pretty good hit on them, she should have countered the lack of a counter attack was a mercy based on the discovery that redemption can work, and they can get right back to killing them all at their discretion if that's what they want. The angelic steel? Cool that they figured it out. Do they have the metric shit ton of weaponry that Heaven does, and do they think they're going to get more once the exorcists stop leaving it laying around? If they want to continue with this holy war nonsense, Heaven has bigger dicks than Adam they can throw out.
>>151318492He literally calls Vals island language taco language in the German dub
>>151322286i really like pentiousindividually the designs are pretty good, they just get samey when all piled together. except alastor in his fuckass bob, no redeeming that
>>151322321The ending of season 2 will have Hell make a massive breakthrough that causes Sera to go “nope”.
>>151322338A lot of redesigns are ass for Alastor and I've only ever found one that looks nice(cholv0q on tiktok)
>>151320071The captions make it even better, I'm forced to assume the implication is Vel did them
>>151322351>Sera choosing to be wrong againNo I want this shit done and over with. I can't handle another season of Heaven being stupid while Charlie deals with mommy issues and Angel deals with Angel issues.
>>151322323wasn't val just talking spanish?if so, he's surprisingly misinformed. there was actually kind of a craze for spanish/mexican stuff in the 1950s. it was one of the only countries that didn't get beat to shit in world war 2, so it could export entertainment.
>>151319139If you can beat the crap out of them they'll do what you want, negating the whole idea of the punishment
>>151322377>I can't handle another season of Heaven being stupid while Charlie deals with mommy issues and Angel deals with Angel issues.Does he know about Season 3?
>>151322369i personally am very fond of this one, the sepia feels right for him. the fan designs that literally give him a radio for a head are one step too far though i think
I don't think Heaven is going to have a united front regarding Hell after season 2. A division is bound to happen between the ranks and it's going to end up creating one or two fallen angels in the process.
>>151319407Frankly I'm not sure he could hit angels by default, he only appeared to fight Adam after Adam attacked a hellborn, which was explicitly forbidden in the deal between Heaven and Hell that allowed for the exterminations to begin with, and we never see him attack any of the other exorcists
>>151322399>while Charlie deals with mommy issues and Angel deals with Angel issues.I can handle THESE, I can't handle them in addition to Heaven being stupid, especially since it'd mean another 8 episodes of them not doing anything until the finale.
>>151322399i need vox being this stupid face
>>151319535You can't but Lute is built different
Prediction: Season 3 is going to be insanely ass and Angel torture focused and it will cause a 75% drop off in viewership. Only Angel fans, and fat Abel fans will remain
>>151319878>Thinking Vivzie would kill off Jeremy Jordan
>>151322236Really? Vox Populi, Love in A bottle and Don't you forget work pretty well,
>>151322399Characters with daddy issues:Charlie, Vaggie (Adam counts), Stolas, Blitzo, Moxxie, Abel, Angel Dust, Loona, Octavia
>>151322377Sets doesn’t care. She’s the only one that can wield Abel and Lute, who can’t act without her. She’s the only one that can expose Cain to Abel. And she’s the only one that can actually fight Lucifer.Her biggest flaw is, only Lute can truly control the Exorcists, and she can’t. And this is a very purposeful flaw as Emily tends to the subjects and Sera acts so high and mighty to ignore them.
>>151319610It's just one of the resident schizophrenic christfag larpers, don't pay it any heed
>>151322492>Her biggest flaw is, only Lute can truly control the Exorcists, and she can’t.Let's be real the exorcists aren't really a threat anymore unless they under go some sort of major upgrade. Their biggest advantages were lost. Sera could probably wipe them out if she wanted to.
>>151322256>Love in a bottle!>Numb in a bottle!>I DON’T NEED NOTHING THAT’S NOT FROM A BOTTLE!Husk is my favorite character.
>>151318854wait, fuck you're rightpentious rejected faggotry in favor of simpingand he got into heavenwe're 100% on this one right now
>>151319736Are we talking about the same Abel here? Hazbin Abel is an idiot cinnamon roll
>>151322530You're talking to the local Adamschizo
>>151322516> Their biggest advantages were lost. Sera could probably wipe them out if she wanted to.We saw their development and what was necessary for them to function. They’re the only army Sera has that is willing to kill sinners with the brutality she wants.
>>151322515>boo hoo Christians are schizos! How dare they comment on a show…>based on Christian teachingRetarded manchild
>>151322466counter-prediction: molly will become a hit waifu
>>151322222I remember the good old internet where "problematic" ships were completely accepted in fandoms and most people would take for granted that you want to read/write fanfics in which your favorite character suffers as much as possible. I guess I'm surprised that taking all of that and turning it into a show did not result, in these times, in most people accusing HH of being too fujo-focused and portraying too much "toxic" fanservice.
>>151322530It’s a good theory. I want Abel to fuck shit up
>>151322529I can't wait until Angel gets redeemed so this fuck ass "gotcha" is killed permanently. The only reason there's no fags in Heaven is because the main cast is in Hell which have the more developed characters with more defined characteristics and plots, including sexualities. They are also the more popular characters who the show needs to remain in Hell until further notice.Either way, Abel has for sure sucked a few cocks, he even looks cream-filled.
>>151322399>>151322446
>>151322609Me when I don't rest on my laurels
Adam was barely a factor in season except when he spilled the beans in episode 6 and his attack at the hotel in episode 8Now in season 2 he's treated as the most relevant person in the room with his death being the catalyst for the entire season. Constantly referenced by nearly everyone The only hope of he seeing him again is as being a component of vox's weapon but at least it's good to know he became even more important >>151322516>unless they under go some sort of major upgrade.They're allowed to use guns. Flyby with glocks
>>151322602I'm too lazy to check but I swear there were trans guys in the Welcome to Heaven sequence. Also Pentious is bisexual and they let him in. What if Heaven only lets bis and trans in?>>151322609lmao
>>151322609>When grand strategy 4 comes out right before the heaven invasion
>>151322645There's also a faggot romcom playing in the theater in Heaven but hurr durr no gays in Heaven what does Viv mean by this hahaha sodomy xD
>>151322609I CAN SEE YOU ON STEAM RIGHT NOW, V
>>151322667>>151322645I actually just watched it again and what I thought was a trans guy was just a really feminine looking beefy dude with a shirt on (or maybe they're a really butch chick) otherwise yeah your point still stands.
This is the outcome I see in season 3>Abel forgives Cain>Lute forgives Charlie and Vaggie>Sera doesn’t want to forgive Lucifer, and is so angry with Lute and Abel aborting their tasks, she tries to banish them to Hell. But… the council has enough with Sera, and they’ve banished her instead with the curse Lucifer has.>Emily is left with Sera’s seat
>>151322609Kek
>>151322609>>151322685Angel and I are going to the anime convention.
>>151317167Do you guys think Lucifer gets called a n-word hundreds of thousands of times daily by sinners in hell?
>>151322761But he's the whitest in all of hell
>>151322468If she does he better have a fuck ton of songs first.
>they sing some of Hear My Hope at the Broadway showI didn't really wanna watch it but I guess I will
>>151322717>Emily is left with Sera’s seatAlastor corrupts Emily arc
>>151322636Why would he need Adam's body when he's going to capture an infinitely stronger angel for his weapon?
>>151321891She's definitely pitching the Vees spinoff with this season + all the Voxtek themed merch/promo imagery + the Voxtek site with the Drawing with Valentino video, I hope they snap it up and make a dozen seasons frankly
>>151322795More of a reason to call him that?
SERA BROS? A WHITE GIRL DID BLACKFACE TO COSPLAY HER!
>>151322636>>151322840That reminds me I recently read someone else recounting Alex talking about Adam's body and according to them he distinctly said season 3 and not "next year".
>>151317250literally makes out with a man at the end of s1 and proposes sex to a man in s2, and does domestic couple shit with a man im promo material but ok
>>151322845I feel like it'd be a prequel. No way they aren't going to smear Valentino's face through the gravel at some point in the show after all the Angel Dust scenes. It's probably how they free him, which you know they will.
adamschizo is still here? and now there's emilyschizo too?
>>151322820It's the best performance, vox Populi must be really cool to perform with people ready to engage with it
>>151322380He's racially informed about people he insults. He called it an island language because Valentino is Cuban.
>>151322380Yup, he speaks Spanish in all the dubs too (including both Spanish dubs which is funny)
>>151318565as much as people want to think vivziepop is some evil sjw, this is a woman who grew up on South park, is friends with a lot of the newgrounds old guards, and used to get cancelled like every other week on Tumblr.
>>151322878Did Val come across in a little boat?
>>151322897What does Vox use to describe Spanish in the Spanish dub?
>>151322468It's less 'kill off' and more 'write him out at the end of this season so he can return at the end of the next one as part of God coming back or something like that'.
>>151322901>grew up on south parkIF ONLY I COULD BEUP THERE
>>151322685velvette is cute! cute!!
>>151322541I should have noticed sooner, the amount of schizos that have been cropping up is insane
>>151322875>45 minutesOugh I wish they did timestamps. Honestly I'm more afraid of the audience than I am of the singers. I like musicals.
I would be Valentino in hell minus all the rape. Running a hell brothel would be insane. You would create a never ending cycle where your prostitues make you a fortune which you can use to get laid with them. You basically get endless money and sex. I want the hell hounds, imps, and succubi.
>>151322911>EuropeanDamn, Vox, you know i can't understand when you mumbleDON'T FUCK WITH ME *Crash*
>Abel misses mommy and daddy >He accidentally ends up with Lute, the maniac, at their steadSo Lute ends up being silly crazy to make this relationship more positive?
>>151322560oh they did complain it was toxic and shit. the whiners just lost.
>>151320866>Vox Deiis it Dei as in vox populi vox dei, or is it Dei as in diversity, equality, inclusion? First time I seen it I thought it was a song about DEI given the fact its an amazon show
>>151322550You better be shitting up /a/ with commentary on Evangelion and /v/ with commentary on Deltarune, then. When was the last time you set foot in a house of the lord, pal?
>>151322935The audience is annoying but they did a good job isolating the singing from itExcept for theres some parts the audience sings too so they allowed it
>>151322956The title song is meant to be about Vox uniting the sinners.
>>151322956>vox populi vox deiIt's this, the song before it is Vox Populi
I'm still hoping we get a reprise of bad with us in the finale where the various overlords that got duped into following Vox get attacked by other sinners looking to steal their power.
>>151322956Its vox populi, vox dei>vox populihis cult leader song for the people (voice of the people)>vox deistanding up to the angels as a false god (voice of god)
>>151322872>husk as actual smug overlord>alastor actually getting to do his murder shit>vox and val meeting>spotlight on the neglected otherlords like maestrogenuinely there's a lot they could do with this
>>151322872Yeah I feel you could set infinite episodes in the 7 years Alastor was gone for with the Vees just doing their thing SoL style
>>151322991>Zestial is STILL the potentialman because its not that far bacj
>>151322911I'm not sure, German stood out to me because he clearly said taco in English so I had to dig deeper to find he said taco sprache
Why does Zestial have so many skulls in his room bros?
>>151322182good musicgood voice actorsoriginal art style genuinely incredible animationlike it or not its way more original than most shit on the market right now
>>151322941damn val, touchy much>>151322936you'd have to build and defend your territory though, easy to die
>>151322878he is peurto rican like his voice actor
>>151322981>standing up to the angels as a false god (voice of god)That was badass. Vox defeating Emily and trademarking all her holes!
>>151322956Your brain might actually be rotten. Go spend some time with your loved ones
>GEE, HELL IS A PLACE WITH MAGIC AND SEX AND GAMBLING AND>you're a fucking slug guy
Jeremy and Erika singing More Than Anything in public feels more incestuous than Charlie and Lucifer singing it lmao
>>151322911the japanese version says basically the same thing as english in the dub, which surprised me
>>151323038Nah, way cooler to have him be some 70's pimp riding around florida in a speedboat while wearing a white suit and snorting his bodyweight in coke.
>>151323059What's Japan's equivalent of Florida?
>>151323022Because he’s Cain.
>>151323071Hes 100% floridian but there was probably a fair amount of island people who came to florida in the 70s to do that>t. knows nothing about florida
>>151323078Frori-dah
>>151323080No he isn't.
>>151322901This. The faggots who yap about "le homogay hotel bad because homogay" are the kind of fags who would've gotten bullied off this site for taking issue with someone posting a trap.These shows are as close as we'll get to a 2000s internet creation hitting the mainstream, and it's hit it so close that it has become a major success.
So Val DIED in the 70sWhich means he whatCame over to Florida on the Freedom Flights from CubaFucked a bunch of girlsDid coke and died Right after getting there
>>151323112a true floridaman
>>151317167He's going to be redeemed too
>>151322066>zestial is the definition of potential manI thought that was alastor, we just dont know too much about zestial
>all the voice actors at the Broadway show wore outfits resembling their characters'I appreciate that. Also surprised Alex couldn't make this.
>>151317167>Why are most shows afraid to make their homos bad people?>He doesn't know viv will redeem vox and val.Lel
>>151323029So since sinners can only be killed by angelic weapons how do you even eliminate rivals? Its dark and probably beyond the scope of what spindlehorse and Amazon are willing to do: but I think there would be a lot of sex slavery and also torture. Can't die. We need more lore on what exactly Alastor did to other overlords and where they are now. We know they aren't dead, so what happened?
>>151323112where is everyone getting that he;s from cuba?he's puerto rican
>>151322609on point, on point
I wonder if Lute is designed to be this mother hen of the exorcists that got seriously disturbed at some point.
>>151323175same difference its all islands to me
>>151322855Sera and Emily are White Aryans.
>Lucifer, the literal king of hell and strongest being of the pit, can't physically harm sinners who are meant to be in punishmentThis is just so stupid, but anyways, better call the Ars Goetia and the Sins to put the sinners and Overlords in their place then.
>>151323112Bro missed 80’s florida, sad
>>151323216This means he’s only a threat to Heaven and their exterminations.
>>151323216stolas can fold alastor like paper according to vivzie, and alastor is supposedly meant to be the strongest sinner in the pride ring.
>>151323216>This is just so stupidHell is his punishment most of all.
>>151323216Lucifer pretty clearly said hes cucked to sinners because hes being punished tooOtherwise implying hed fuck w them
>>151321574nigga she's not from Mexico. She's Spanish. Vox is in a full Mexican garb (with the Spanish flag) with maracas trying to impress a Spaniard. It'd be like going Algerian to impress the French or mcdonalds and guns to impress the brits
>>151323216Because that's his punishment. The Angel that questioned God's choice in humanity gets surrounded by their worst for eternity and can't harm them. Other Angel's were never supposed to descend to hell so they didn't get covered in the punishment.
>>151323234>Otherwise implying hed fuck w themAlastor will give him a deal
>>151323239Or they did and we just dont know itAdam had a deal to never touch hellborn, and he did, and then he got his ass beat by Lucifer (who didnt touch any other angels)
>>151323234thislu literally says "cant kill them cant do nothing with them"as if in another world where he can, he'd probably actually do it, since he clearly has the thoughts (the idea that not being ABLE to hurt them is a punishment itself)
>>151322981>cult leader>for the people>standing up to the angels>>151322973>uniting the sinnerssounds like DEI to me>>151323041>Your brain might actually be rottendoes it even matter at this point, we are not getting out of this one alive. Chinese might have some chances, as well as the brown people moving into US and Europe
>They adapt Hazbin Season 1 into a full Broadway Musical with their voice actorsY/N
>>151323216>This is just so stupidNot really it makes perfect sense actually>but anyways, better call the Ars Goetia and the Sins to put the sinners and Overlords in their place then.Overlords no. The others, maybe? Lucifer might be their creator and Hell wouldn't be an eternal punishment if the Sins and Goetia could just permanently unalive them. That said they should be able to harm them just like Overlords can.
>>151323248>Charlie trying to kill Adam directly broke the deal.Hmmm… Sera is increasingly going to be the surprise of season 3’s destruction.
>>151323273at the very least watch the show before commentingthen you're allowed to call it slop writing when you know any plot elements of it
>>151323228I want to see Stolas and Alastor actually fight to see the full extent of the former's power.>>151323281>Overlords noVivzie outright said that Stolas wins against Alastor, and Alastor is the strongest sinner in the Pride ring.
>Speaker in season 2 says Sera should talk to her own for repentance >Emily or Lucifer >Sera ignores themSera’s confession is foreshadowing her fall.
>>151323216It's his punishment. It's meant to suck and be arbitrarily imposed on him as a giant nerf. The sinners' punishment is being stuck with each other forever. There's no fire and screaming, no medieval scenes of brutal torture inflicted by laughing demons. All the people who went to hell get to be surrounded by other people who are like them. Although it's unclear just how easy it is to be sent to hell. I still think Pentious never belonged there. But Alastor for example absolutely does.
>>151323071no no no you....ok...look.he is ETHNICALLY peurto rican. FROM Florida. surely you onow there is a substantial amount of peoe from Puerto Rico there?
Hopefully in S3 we see Lucifer ruling the HELLBORN (now that its all owned by amazon)This can redeem his jobbing to sinners if the Sins respect and fear him
>>151323078not really one. saitama ks the jersey of japa. though
>>151323325Which season 3? Helluva Boss or Hazbin Hotel?
>>151323235>going Algerian to impress the Frencharent french people originally algerian
>>151323339HazbinThey couldnt crossover til now because of the copyright thing, but now its all Amazon, ie. we probably get the sins soon
I think it's STUPID that Sinners are only restricted to the Pride Ring. What's even the point of the other Rings existing then?
>>151323112AGAINHE IS NOT FROM CUBAHE IS PEURTO RICANAS HIS VOICE ACTOR ISTHEY CONFIRM THIS OUTSIDE OF THE SHOWSTOP SAYING HES CUBAN HE IS PUERTO RICAN FROM FLORIDA YOU DUMB MOTHERFUCKER
>>151323147alastor masquerades as potentialman, he is in actuality a boyfailure
>>151323294>at the very least watch the show before commentingyou misunderstood me, I actually watched the show
>>151317167just dont watch most shows, retardo
>>151323353T. ValIts all islands
>>151323353Why are you such a faggot? People can headcanon characters any way they want.
>>151323171alastor trapped his rivals in the radio somehow, maybe once you get OP enough you can do similar shit
>>151323303>Vivzie outright said that Stolas wins against Alastor, and Alastor is the strongest sinner in the Pride ring.Not the point, which is that the Hellborn Sins and Royalty might be under the same restrictions as Lucifer to not smite them. I think the Sins are at least, not the Goetia though.
>>151323364Why does Walton Goggins have tits?
>>151323351so you can have spinoff with fun new locations
>>151323363then why were you confused by it being called vox dei when the previous song is literally vox populi>b b b brown peoplemay be the wrong show for you
>>151323112His VA said Val was Cuban because he hates gusano scum like most Latinos in the US. His VA is not Cuban.
>>151323351Lucifer just wanted to make a nice world for the hellborn I guess
>>151323395they literally dont know the phrase 'vox dei' because they are stupid
>>151323373the worst type of fucking fanyoure just like the people who make up identities and shit to feel closer to their favspeople who ignore canon and obvious narrative of the media they consume to please themselves are the worst and most disgusting pieces of filth. youre just inventing a new reality based on a piece of media you like instead of making your own crap. again not all hispanic people are the same and being Cuban is distinct from Puerto rican. kill yourself.
>that part of hear my hope they showed in the broadway concertits so ass
>>151323405>says bullshit spewed direct from his assholethe only thing Joel has ever said was that he improvised the Florida line because all the worst Hispanics in America come from there. try again.
>>151323407He's doing a shit job at it seeing as the royalty and the sins treat the hellborn like shit
>>151323325>>151323339>>151323348>>151323351You ready for the spin off romance drama show to end and all the characters wind up in Hazbin? Also: GIVE US NAKED FURRY WOMEN NOW SPINDLEHORSE AND AMAZON. We have been robbed a second time now. The purple hell hound sex worker woman or whatever appeared again with even less ass than before. And a weak side boob. I'm so tired of seeing sexualized men and non furry women like the girl the Vees pimped out. I mean I would bang her for sure, but I want a hound. Anyway, yeah I don't know why the sinners are restricted, isn't it both ways too? I honestly don't know how the merger will occur, I guess the barrier around pride is gonna go down. Plus if Vox is serious about waging holy war against heaven then he could use all of hell behind him instead of just 1 ring.>>151323379True
>>151323412>Character acts like some 70's/80's drug dealer/pimp>Says he's from Florida>Assume he's Cuban because I don't consume 100 different non-show media sourcesNah you can go fuck yourself you stupid child. I can decide to believe what I want until an in show event states otherwise because interviews are dust in the fucking wind the moment a writer changes their mind.
>>151323430it's funny how the two owls behind could curbstomp everyone in the room
>>151323417real?
>>151323216>better call the Ars Goetia and the SinsYou expect the likes of stolas and asmodeus to be competent? Lol, lmao.
>>151323407I was about to say that it's stupid that Lucifer can just create human like people with thoughts, free will, and feelings just like a human, but then I remembered it's canon they don't have souls and just dissapear forever once "killed" in Hell. Hellbord are all subhuman.
>>151323444https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52Q6LmOupPsthis song will save heaven and hell btw
>>151323417>>151323444I thought it was fine but it really is a "clap your hands if you believe" song. I'll probably like it better in the show and when we have everyone's parts.
>>151323409>they literally dont know the phrase 'vox dei' because they are stupid>He says after googling the meaning after learning about or hearing the songNta btw
>>151323442>he admits hes wrong and he is saying random bullshitalexa play sweet victoryI dont even mind you having a headcanon. I mind you stating it as fact. thats what makes you so putrid.
>>151323460Abel will 100% get the best part as said in reviews, it'll be a rock ballad where I assume he has some breaking point revelation
>>151323446>asmodeusThe sins could absolutely roast any of the overlords in the pride ring lol.
>>151323467Are you just some flavour of spic that hates the idea of being misidentified?
Hear my hopeLet it echoIn every soul that needsSomething to believeTake my handNever let goEven one soft soundCan shake the hardest groundHear my hopeLet it thunderAcross this prideful ring'Til every last soul singsTake my handFeel the wonderIn perfect harmonyWe'll change our destinyAnd many years from now, if any live to hear this songThe story about how we learned together we are strongIt began with just one noteA crescendo 'til the end, no matter what it takesHear my hope
Stop fighting over Val. ITS' VAL.
>>151323483read my post again. I know literacy is hard for you.
>And many years from now, if any live to hear this songthat's cliffhanger bait isn't itwhy specify if any live to hear the songbecause season 3 will be MORE heaven vs hell slop
>>151323430>Anyway, yeah I don't know why the sinners are restricted, isn't it both ways too?No, Blitzo's Company is literally located in the Pride Ring and he and all of his employees lives there. How do you think he even gets Sinner clients?
>>151323487>Let it echoOk that's what that line is I really thought I was fucking hearing "leggo my eggo"
>>151323494You think the idea of saying one islander is a different kind of islander is putrid because in some interview the creator offhandedly mentioned what kind of islander the character is. I don't give a fuck what you think.
>>151323487I'll kill myself if Vox is holding hands singing this at the end
>>151323503I was wondering why of all things Vox chose a staff and then I remembered Alastor. The guy really has no personality of his own lmao
>>151323506not even mentioning that stolas and presumably other goetia live there as well......
>>151323511no I think people stating their headcanon blatantly as fact is putrid. its like people saying a character is Trans just because.
>>151323491youre right. I need to stop. this isn't healthy. it doesnt matter. this is all fictional and it doesnt matter. I need to eat and not get so autistically riled. im stepping away now.
>>151323562
>>151323054They just continued the show vibe kek
Eye for an eye says I won't do shit (til season 3)
>>151323590Potential Woman, always will, never does.
>>151322909Awww
>>151323325>FearGet real, you know they're going to be cute as fuck with him. Look at the things they're sending to bribe him.
>>151323171It was said at one point that each death and reconstitution costs you some of your power if I remember right, so there is a good chance they just killed them and caused them to lose enough power to knock them down several pegs
>>151323325>the bribes in his room>the literal cobwebs on his throne in helluva boss>Satan directly saying he is the one who makes the rules not lucifer>Lucifer wheeze laughing when Charlie asks him how he does his job (he doesn't)lucifer is verifiably shit at his job and doesnt actually do it very much especially since his wife's disappearance. I think its pretty obvious she was the real power behind the throne.
>>151323273Your defeatist attitude is sickening, they wouldn't have to propagandize if it was over. Stop constantly pissing away your life and go do things with the people you care about, retard
>>151323325I don't think the sins will fear him, they seem to like and miss him, Satan probably gets cowed by his presence though
>>151323708I bet you cash money that it turns out Lucifer babies the fuck out of Satan and acts like he's adorable no matter how scary he acts and it royally pisses him off.
>>151323054Holy shit you weren't kidding
>>151323219Which Hazbin characters would spend hours on Instagram reels?
>>151324124Velvette
>>151322840Lucifer is a "power source" Adam would be the weapon
>>151324166We already know the weapon is the staff and maybe the shark. When Alex Brightman was talking about Adam's body he was referring to season 3.
i looked at the category for lgbt characters on the wiki and there was only one heaven character and a bunch of hell ones. what did she mean by this?
>>151323216>This is just so stupidIt really is.
https://youtu.be/TBS4FawXCQA
