>There's St. Peter but no JesusExplain.
cliffhanger reveal for the finale
>>151323910Just like in real life.
Too political for Safe Edgy: the show
>>151324611people keep saying safe edgy but never explains what that means
>>151323910Charlie is jesus.
>>151323910Jesus enjoyed his time in Hell, and now goes back there regularly to party with queen Bee. She loves his water to wine trick and they are besties. As the show is set in Pride, nobody met Jesus yet.
>>151323910Wouldn't the existance of Jesus ruin the shows premise though? Charlie is the in universe Jesus though
>>151324917Because she likes sinners?Is not how it works u know
>>151324589Are you implying his disciples existed but not Jesus himselfWat
>>151323910Peter being a shifting personality/aspect of God a la The Three Witches from DC's The Sandman would be a neat twitch.
>>151324615Imagine a character is super evil and commits violent murder onscreen but refuses to use slurs or do anything to actually offend people IRL. That’s safe edgy.
>>151324961twist not twitch
>>151324982To late
>>151323910>>There's St. Peter but no Jesus>Explain.You explain, What's the connection?
>>151324943There was a sect that believed Jesus only ever existed as a spirit. That's why there's a canon outlining exactly what Christians believe about Jesus concerning his birth, life, death, and resurrection.
>>151325034That's bizarre and retarded since we know Jesus existed historically even if him being the son of God and whatnot is in doubt
>>151323910They soft confirmed the existence of God and Jesus in season 2 episode 2 though
>>151324917Jesus saves mortal sinners on Earth. Charlie saves immortal sinners in Hell.
>>151324615>I was okay with all the violence, murder, abuse, drug use, fetishes, sexual harassment, manipulation, and even rape!>But I draw the line at saying "nigger".
>>151325090Where in that episode I didn’t see a reference? Viv and prime would never do that.
>>151325486There's a character called "The speaker of God" and she tells Sera that the guilt over ordering the exterminations is "her cross to bear"
>>151324775>Jesus enjoyed his time in Hell, and now goes back there regularly to party with queen Bee. She loves his water to wine trick and they are besties. As the show is set in Pride, nobody met Jesus yet.I could see Jesus being her autistic good guy wing man that she usually ends up ditching because he reminds her to do better but still always calls him we she fucks up.>party going hard"Uh, Bee, lets remember moderation. Wouldnt want to do something foolish""Whatever J C, I can pase myself.">Bee gets wrecked. Ends up in a huge demon's ass. Calls jesus."Uhhh, Jesus. You remember that whole thing camels and eyes of needles? Well I just cameled my self up a huge demon ass. No...I dont remember how. Could you like snap your fingers and like miracle me home? Really? Love youuuu"
>>151325674The metatron, I see why they didn't named her that
>>151324974i fail to see how using one form of shock value but not another makes you safe edgy
>>151323910My guess is that Viv is ignorant enough to not realise Saint Peter's significance is being Jesus' disciple and/or that he was likely a real person, instead thinking he's a purely mythical gatekeeper of Heaven like some christianised version of Charon. As for Jesus himself, I guess either her idea of him would be too questionable or the concept of what Jesus is would just make the show's premise really lame. I know Christians mostly grew up as Christians or as part of a similar religion, thus they don't understand how lame the idea of earning your place in the good afterlife isn't really about being a good person in any meaningful way, but instead about being able to answer yes to the question: >"Do you accept that some random cult leader who raved about the apocalypse was coming within the lifetime of his generation and was executed for his crimes 2000 years ago, was actually a demi-god and that execution was somehow an intended sacrifice to make good afterlife possible, all this despite us also expecting you to believe God proper is completely omnipotent/all-merciful and shouldn't need such a complicated limitation to allow for an afterlife that he probably could have allowed for from the beginning?"In a show with almost no heterosexual characters, that being what redeems souls would actually be gayest thing about it. If the solution for Charlie's problem wasn't to make the sinners better people in any real sense, but instead having them recite the nicene creed before killing them with an angel weapon, that would be bizarre and lame.Alternatively, I kinda get the feeling Viv couldn't resist the idea of Jesus being in a gay relationship with Judas or something and that's where Amazon put their foot down, so he just wasn't included because she wasn't allowed to depict him such a way.
>>151325044No we don't. There are no contemporary historical documents recording his existence other than what's in the Bible itself, which of course are full of tall tales. The likes of Suetonius were writing about Jesus a generation after his supposed death. I think on balance of probability he was a real person but you're quite wrong if you think he's a definitively documented historical figure. Much has been written about the historicity of Jesus so this isn't hard to look up
>>151325344After Jesus was crucified, he went directly to Hell and formed a massive jailbreak.
>>151326289That means he can go anywhere
>>151325702Wasn't Metatron that guy, Enoch, that started as a human and was transformed into an angel?
>>151324775>She loves his water to wine trickSometimes I ponder on whether or not this was a lesson that Jesus was teaching on patience in the context of agriculture that got exaggerated over a couple millennia. Same with the multiplying of fish (chumming to bait more fish) and bread (sourdough starter continuously makes more if you feed it)
>>151325702Because it sounds like Megatron and the dumbest angel name
>>151326329I never fully read enoch, I dunno>>151326358Sounds to manly for the design, and the speaker of god sounds cool
>>151325044>>151325980It should also be pointed out that while most of what Richard Carrier says in defense of mythicism is needlessly complicated, his point that Jesus' contemporaries would still be alive (though several decades older) when the New Testament was being written isn't good enough to assume it's at all accurate to anything that happened is actually pretty spot on. His go to example of why the relatively short timespan from alleged events to documentation does not help with trustworthiness is the Roswell incident, the actual event was some guy finding a broken weather balloon that got easily identified as such but in a timeframe shorter than between Jesus and the NT, the Roswell story had transformed into some insane crap about reverse engineering of an alien spaceship and the dissection of its pilot. That is something that happened in modern times with mass media and a near 100% literacy rate, the idea that the gospels or anything else in the NT is accurate seems laughable when you consider that these stories must have been shared orally for decades and not have been written down until after they had already reached the ear of some literate grecophone miles away. Carrier's argument that Jesus probably didn't exist because the NT resembles stories from greco-roman mythology more than any serious history might be a bit far fetched but it is true, the water into wine miracle is essentially just a modified story about Dionysus and several other parts of the NT just seems to be repackaged greco-roman myths.
>>151323910Vivzie knows fuck-all about Judaism or Christianity and is just using the names of Bible characters without understanding who those characters are.
>>151326442Like your dad when he called you Jacob
