It's totally normal to buy a man-sized portrait of Rome being sacked by barbarians.
>>151326264>OP considers that "man-sized"Fatass
>>151326264Unironically yea. If I can buy something like this, I know exactly where to put it
>>151326278He also called it a portrait when it's clearly in landscape.
Charlie's a nazi conspiracy theorist.
>>151326353>Smiling Friends go to Argentina
>>151326322He must have been viewing it from the side and not been able to perceive basic perspective, both things CLASSICALLY indicative of being a fatass.
I want to hear Charlie say "Weak men create hard times" at least once in the show.
>>151326507I mean it would be in character.
>>151326507I mean, would it even be flattering? Zach portrays him as a fat fuck who likes to act all alpha and stuff but is too afraid to actually fight and larps bout knowing the basics of working out
>>151326927Yeah, he's exactly the kind of person who'd say that bullshit.
>>151326322Just embarrassing.
I've always wanted framed prints of Hieronymus Bosch's Garden of Earthly Delights as well as Holbein's The Ambassadors in my house some day
>>151326975>the skull looks like some shitty photoshop perspective fuckery>it's in the actual paintingI guess memento mori became a cliche even in the 1500s
>>151327265Some say you were supposed to view the painting while descending a tall flight of stairs, or you were meant to hold a glass tube up to it to see the anamorphic effectEither way it's fascinating
>>151326975Personally, my painting of choice I'd get a frame of is Nighthawks by Edward Hopper.It just speaks to me. Love at first sight, basically.
>>151327482I wanted a reproduction of The Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks, because was like a perfect historical illustration of crafting the perfect shitpost reply, but it's been mired in recent years by association with the Ukraine bullshit so I probably wouldn't anymore, which is a shame
TAKE THAT GUERNICA
>>151326975Wow, those ambassadors look like a couple of shady spics that you really don't want in your house. Like those creeps from Training Day who were going to blow Ethan Hawke's head off with a sawed-off shotgun in the shower..
>>151326507He would be the type of guy to fall for one of those "Alpha Bootcamps" where he goes and does training to become more of a Chad but it's all a ploy made by James just so he can rape him
>>151326264>fake episode premise gag in the description was about charlie finding some crazy serious deepweb shit>actual plot is just about him walking onto a bus and stammering off of said bus to get to his job down the street, in viewthey could be doing much more fun concepts
>>151326264>Grand Strategy 4lol
>>151326507I could see him being in a real struggle trying to motivate himself by saying "Strong men create good times!"
>>151326264I spent half-grand on a folio/pulpit sized hard leather bound 18th century bible that I payed off over the course of 4 months, so I don't know I think something like a painting isn't out of the realm of possibility for some other people.
>>151326264>It's totally normal to buy a man-sized portrait of Rome being sacked by barbarians.That's not Rome though (but i don't blame you for thinking it was, almost every video about Rome is bound to use this painting eventually).It's "Destruction" from the "The Course of Empire "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Course_of_Empire_(paintings)
The name of the paiting is the fall of rome, that represents more it's collapse in to social chaos and not being ransacked. i don't think rome ever been ransacked by barbarians, not like at that at least. I'm sure some fucking nerd can correct me on that.I even tought the paitning was an reference towards the fire of rome by hubert robert, but it seems to be a different one. Either way, is actually really common, you can always buy prints of those things and they are not that expansive. Charlie is probably paying more for the frame if anything. even the cheaper ones with this level of details probably costs a pretty good amount.
>the Chud character is the biggest asshole among the castThey cooked
>>151329440Maybe I'm crazy but he really, really looks like G1 Megatron in this pic.
>>151329440>chud>>assholeI don't think that's accurate
I fucking love classical art.
>>151329429>i don't think rome ever been ransacked by barbarians, not like at that at least.Rome has been sacked several times. The big one people reference was the 410 sacking by the Visigoths which directly lead to a mass exodus (the sacking did minor damage, but the societal disruption and safety concerns basically caused half the population to get out of Dodge so to speak in the years that followed).Suffice it to say the city wasn't burned to the ground by any measure.
>>151329429Rome has been sacked several times.
>>151326975If you get a copy of a cursed picture, is it also cursed?Everyone says the original painting of Man Proposes, God Disposes is haunted.
>>151329573forgot the image.
>>151329477His Mr Frog phone background kinda seals it
>>151329573>>151329577Apparently the curse only happens if you take your exam in front of it, so you should be safe either way.
>>151329429>The name of the painting is the fall of romeNo, it's named Destruction.
>>151329440
>Smiling Friends thread is actually a covert cover for analyzing and discussing classical paintingsGood, very good.
>>151329558>>151329560>>151329687Thank you. I'm an art history nerd, and not an history nerd. Literally all my history comes from paintings. And now I know a bit more.
>>151326264Its not actually Rome the series is about a fictional empire but Charlie wouldnt know that
>>151329867It's a fictional city loosely based on Rome, but it's very clearly Greco-Roman.
What drives someone to create a show like this?
The biggest indicator that Charlie is an asshole is that he owns a gaming laptop.
>>151329894What drives someone to be friends with a shock porn artist
>>151329929IDK, I liked Shadman and I don’t even look at porn. Being able to draw whatever you want is an extremely desirable lifestyle.
>>151329945>I liked ShadmanRetard>Being able to draw whatever you want is an extremely desirable lifestyleWasting any artistic talent you have on making 800 versions of "what if Pinhead from Hellraiser was a naked cartoon female" and being a sex creep is desirable?
>>151329965It’s always allosexual guys calling men sex creeps.
>>151326507>>151326865>>151326927>>151327900>>151329389That quote is often thought as something that's true when it's bullshit made up for a dumbass character to say in a mediocre novel no one has read. It's not supported by historians. It's a fun thing to say that sounds true if you know little about the fall of Rome and even less about the rest of world history. It treats the void of knowledge regarding the rise and fall of other nations and societies as complete knowledge and is supposed to convince you that's all there is and that Rome fell because they were fags rather than the loads of other factors going into the fall.
>>151330105>this is what Gibbon actually believed
>C: You know like they say uh, weak men make hard times>P: Whats that now?>C: Ah you know its just this uh, like this really old saying you know?>P: No, I don't. Whats the saying?>C: Yeah c'mon dude yeah you do.>P: I-I really don't... I don't know it Charlie. What is it?>continue for a minute until Mr Boss walks in
>>151329877>>151329867>It's my own unique civilization. It's called.... Groeace? Original do not steal.
>>151330148>C: You know like they say uh, weak men make hard times>P: Whats that now?>C: Ah you know its just this uh, like this really old saying you know?>P: I never- who says it?>C: People on the internet.>P: I'm... on the internet too, I never heard it. What does it mean?>C: Well, hard times make strong men.>P: So we should make society worse? What's this implying?>C: J-Just forget it! God, can't say anything...
>>151330148>this really old sayingIt's from a work of fiction published in 2016.
>>151330324That's the joke
>>151330309>A: Hey what are you guys talking about?>P: Oh Charlie was just->C: It's nothing just forget about it>A: Uh, ok. Nothing interesting seems to ever happen here>C: Heh, nothing ever happens huh Alan?>A:...>A: Charlie, are you a chud?>P: What's a->C: Oh god no! W-why would you think that!?>A: Because my favorite bisexual internet livestreamer says that meme is an altright dog whistle>P: WHAT!?>C: I'M NOT A CHUD ALAN!>P: W-was that thing you were saying earlier a dog whistle too?>C: No Alan is just a small peon who likes watching a cuck on the internet, I don't know what the fuck he's talking abo->A: Was Mr Frog justified for Febuarary 6th?>C:....hear me out>P: CHARLIE!
There is an inkling of truth to the saying, but it's such a loose definition that it basically becomes a self fulfilling prophesy that can be applied to almost anything.In essence all it's really saying is that when the good times are over, bad times comes and vice versa, and you need strong people to get out of the bad times, and weak leaders/people can easily lead to bad times.While technically true, it's also a nothing statement.
>>151330422Thank you anon, now I understand the meaning of weak men make hard times and hard times make strong men is that hard times make strong men because they are hard and good times make weak men because they are good. I was not aware of that but you really opened my eyes there, friend, you should think about creating an YouTube channel with this level of analysis, I'm sure you can milk a 20 min video of that phrase alone.
>>151330422It's more so that when you have good management it can't be maintained after the organizers passing. A lot of regimes fail after a strong first few generations and even infrastructure fails overtime as management changes hands enough times.
>>151330436As I said, it's a nothing statement.
>>151330146Here is the guy who wrote the quote writing about his book where the quote is from and explaining weak men:>Picture someone sipping a Starbucks coffee, using their iPhone to criticize capitalism on Instagram or Facebook.This is retard shit. He doesn't cite historical examples of it happening, just that there are variations of the "kids thess days don't know what it's like" sayings throughout history. Relating it to contemporary meme strawmen straight from dumbass social media posts shows no effort to even understand the point he's trying to make. If it's cyclical, there should be numerous examples and less fixation on his impression of the Starbucks demographic and what he thinks their views of capitalism are.>The sentiment behind this quote is not new; in fact, it is ancient. Every generation tends to view the succeeding ones as weaker.He doesn't even mask that this is about feelings than any real historical trend. There's this logical pit people fall into that holds the nature of societies that have fallen having a peak that it's the nature of the peak that led to the fall without looking into the other, stronger factors.https://www.gmichaelhopf.com/hard-times
>>151330422Right and it serves no purpose to say other than to imply that that rising and falling is cyclical and the fault of the good times you want so nothing can be done and that having comfort and luxury available to more than just the monarchy is bad actually. There's little other reason to show off such a shallow understanding of history.
>>151326264I like to think it's the actual original piece and smiling friends pays insanely well
>>151330565The whole point is to be aware of it and to try your best to evade it despite the inevetible nature of human empires. There's a purpose. It is just another way of telling the tale of Sisyphus. Just because the boulder will fall does not mean we shouldn't try regardless.
>>151330565>the fault of the good times you want so nothing can be done and that having comfort and luxury available to more than just the monarchy is bad actually.That's a really weird interpretation.If anything it's saying that you SHOULD want the good times (hence why the strong men strive to make them), but also that nothing lasts, so the best you can do while in the good times, is try to prevent the "weak men" from doing too much damage.
>>151330422>prophesy"Prophesy" is a verb. You meant to type, "prophecy."
>>151329578Mr. Frog conquered the world, anon.
>>151330606What does that have to do with his phone background being chudcoded
>>151330603Yeah I thought it looked wrong and was confused why my spellcheck didn't underline it.Thanks for the correction.
>>151330610He's the emperor
>>151330615*was
>>151330610>Having a wallpaper with the guy who has zero political stances is chud codedAt best Charlie is an anarchist.
>>151330422The point of the saying is that weak men make me hard
>>151329578>>151330623>You got a problem anon?
>>151330583I'm saying when it's brought up, it's either to shrug at the cycle or to blame fags. Preparing for it is like shrugging in that you're still believing there aren't many specific factors or ways to avoid it.>>151330585And that's great if you hate fags and ignore all the other greater factors.
>>151330644>And that's great if you hate fags and ignore all the other greater factors.You're the only one who's bringing up fags here.
>>151330585What defines a strong man though, because usually it seems like its used in defense of authoritarian leaders even if they have really weak positions on improving quality of life.
>>151329440He is not a chud tho
>>151330647I'm not, the writer describes weak men as fags and strong men are those who push traditional, anti-fag values.
>>151330650It's usually used in relation to a leader who don't buckle under pressure, and is able to navigate tough situations.I don't know how the fuck you ended up relating strong leadership with authoritarianism when one of the main criticism of authoritarianism is that leaders are usually weak people who need full control to try and stay in power or get anything done.>>151330660Is that somewhere else, because I don't see >>151330468 say anything for or against fags.
>>151329971I would agree with you, but he drew a real life child to get back at her father.
>>151330441Seven hour Youtube videos are made off the back of truisms. Remember that guy who made bank reading Wikipedia articles?
Charlie got radicalized when he found out worms run the planet.
>>151330678>Remember that guy who made bank reading Wikipedia articles?No, but that could basically be any video essayist, so I don't doubt it.
>>151330673>I don't know how the fuck you ended up relating strong leadership with authoritarianBecause most of the people who say this quote are supporters of authoritarians.
>>151330697Did you make them take a poll?
>>151330657He voted for a monster just to own the libs.
>>151330703I dunno, man, just seems like you're being disingenuous about what kind of person says that quote.
>>151330710>I dunno, man, just seems like you're being disingenuous about what kind of person says that quote.Sounds more like you've made up a picture of who says that quote in your mind, and applies that picture to everyone who actually says that quite.Plenty of people use Trump and people like him as a standing for the weak men.
>>151330710NTA, but instead of defending your worldview from criticism, you ignored the criticism and instead insulted the person.People only do this when they know, but are not willing to admit, that they're wrong.Please learn from this moment and adapt your worldview, instead of clinging to it like a madman.
>>151330705Half of the country voted for Mr. Frog, he is too normie to be a chud
>>151330733>but instead of defending your worldview from criticism, you ignored the criticism and instead insulted the person.How was my worldview being criticized though, it was just a stupid statement
>>151330730>people like him as a standing for the weak men.Billionaire real estate tycoons are the furthest thing from weak.
>>151330730The people who say the quote are claiming Trump is a strong man who will bring strong times though lmao
>>151330740>How was my worldview being criticized thoughYou state that you hold a belief. You are asked what you base that belief on. You respond with insults.
>>151330738Chuds and normies are interchangeable now that the libs have all turned to the right.
>>151330742>Billionaire real estate tycoons are the furthest thing from weak.lol, do you actually think it's referring to power?Plenty of weak men have had a bunch of power.>>151330748Did you poll them?
>>151330756I base that belief on only ever seeing people defending or supporting authoritarians using that quote. If you have any examples of people who dont support or defend authoritarians who use that quote feel free to share them.
>>151326975Honestly I would like a print of the Soir Bleu. I like the pagliacci-esque juxtaposition of melancholy clown.
>>151330766You are a disingenuous sealion and I will not be engaging with you any further.
I'd respect chuds more if they were honest about their beliefs but man its like they're too insecure to share their genuine takes, you gotta spend 20 minutes coaxing that shit out.
>>151330748Did you somehow miss the right splitting in two camps in the past six months?One side is the MAGA movement that LOVES Israel unconditionally, while the other is the America First movement, that wants to focus on the US first and foremost.Why do you think Trump is kicking out people left and right? Even releasing the Epstein list is nothing more than a loyalty test. Neither party wants that list released.>>151330774>on only ever seeing people defending or supporting authoritarians using that quoteWe call this "anecdotal evidence". Anecdotal evidence is really not something you should be basing your beliefs on, as it is subjective and unrepresentative.It's a bit like how someone could believe that eating bananas wards off crocodiles, because he has been eating bananas his whole life and he has never seen a crocodile.
>>151330777So I'll take that as a no.
>>151330799>>151330810>buying a 4chan Premium account to defend Trump on /co/
>>151330799> If you have any examples of people who dont support or defend authoritarians who use that quote feel free to share them.
>>151330730NTA but the only time I've seen it used against Trump was once ironically by a leftist.>>151330673The guy who wrote the book wrote it in 2015 and explicitly says weakmen are Starbucks sipping iPhone using socialists who have forgotten the traditional values that got them there. He sees faggy liberals as the weak men bringing about hard times and is often repeated by anti-liberals because it's hard to articulate anti-fag beliefs. The saying is popular because it seems to come from a place of historical knowledge, Rome was gay and it fell, while leaving it up to implication and inference who the weak men are and what the strongman needs to do.
>>151330823>please prove my point for meSure! I charge 50 bucks an hour. Payment up front.
>>151330832So you cant. Ok
>>151330829I can sort of see a shared archetype of "weak" men in both groups.Both groups have lost touch with reality and live inside a "bubble" where they do not experience the consequences of their activism.
>>151330841>pays for 4chan but not for evidence
>>151330859I dont pay for 4chan thoughAnyways its a chud quote for authoritarian simps
>>151330799If you have an issue with the anecdotes, it's on you to show your own evidence. So far, we have multiple anons telling you it's rightwingers and now I'll tell you the most "leftwing" person to unironically post the strong men meme is Joe "Biden says something dumb, I freak out and do a bit and when I learn it's really Trump, who I supported and voted for, who said it I shrug and change subject" Rogan.
>>151330864>the guy who did 2 of the 4 nazi salutes at CPAC following a second Trump victory posts the memeHuh I wonder what that means.
>>151330775Forgot pic
>>151330847That's not what weak means and he was explicit with his support of traditional values.
>>151330818>Starbucks sipping iPhone using socialists who have forgotten the traditional values that got them there.And what does that have to do with gay people? >The saying is popular because it seems to come from a place of historical knowledge, Rome was gay and it fell, while leaving it up to implication and inference who the weak men are and what the strongman needs to do.Is that something he specifically said? Or is it just your own conjecture? Because I have rarely seen anyone relate it to Rome, and far more seen it being related to Czarist Russia and the USSR, and Weimar/Nazi Germany.
>>151330829And by ironically I mean they were making fun of both Trump and people who post the meme.
>>151330907According to /pol/, it means he's /ourguy/. Because god forbid we make something of ourselves instead of worship the people who lord over us.
>>151330892>If you have an issue with the anecdotesI don't have an issue with THE anecdotes, I have an issue with you using anecdotal evidence and groupthink as the basis for your beliefs.>i don't need modern medicine, my granny never needed surgery and she lived to 90This is how you sound right now.>>151330915>That's not what weak meansThat's not what weak means TO YOU, you mean.>he was explicit with his support of traditional valuesTraditional values, such as two genders, marriage benefits and having children?
>>151330984Is there a reason why you never managed to achieve something in your life?
>>151330783It's true. A lot of what they do is hiding behind inference and implication and there is actually a shared frustration between them that libs "pretend not to know what we're talking about" because they're used to not needing to be explicit with what they believe or what they want. They talk around the issue because rightwing politics are tribal to the point of not caring if others get exploited or abused. To be open about that is to show that you're not holding yourself to the same standards as those sitting across from you and ultimately knowledge and empathy are antithetical to your goals so all you have to offer is purple prose apologia. This meme is part of that.
>>151330984Because you touch yourself at night
>>151330967You're talking to a different anon, btw, I stopped engaging with you since you were being disingenuous about claiming authoritarian simps dont use the quote
>>151330984>using a "posted it again" image that's a wojak templateI don't have words for how stupid that is.
>>151331009>you were being disingenuousBy pointing out that you believe this because of anecdotal evidence?
>>151326393>Oh yeah, this is great, you know my family is from Argentina, Pim. >Charlie isn’t Dompler a German last name? >Yeah grandpa came here around the late 40s
>>151330783It's because it wasn't only unpopulsr but straight up villified to be conservative in many spaces. Look at most Discord/ video game/ anime fan spaces, anything not a secret club and public will always find liberal beliefs ok to say but shun conservative ones, and no I don't mean damning or discriminating beliefs like gender/identity politics. Even now that conservativism is on the uptick, even with Trump again in the white house it's gauche if not straight up "hateful" to be in the red elephant party. It's unfair but a big game of optics at the same time.
>>151331042>even with Trump again in the white house it's gauche if not straight up "hateful" to be in the red elephant party.Yeah I wonder why lmao
Is this an EU5 reference?Are those fuckers playing EU5
>>151331042How the hell is it any kind of difficult to be liberal
>>151331059Maybe don't think or speak those beliefs period.
>>151331059Nobody has gotten canceled for saying "I think only two genders exist" lmao dude, Elon has owned twitter for years at this point who do you think you're fooling
>>151330943/pol/ fucking hates Musk AND Trump.You people live inside a fucking bubble made out of your own preconceived notions, and then never fucking venture outside of it for the rest of your lives.
>>151330967>I have an issue with you using anecdotal evidence and groupthink as the basis for your beliefs.Now that the Musk example was posted, what is the basis of saying it's a both sides thing?>Traditional values, such as two genders, marriage benefits and having children?Could be, but he's talking about a longer history of this generational theory so generally it's conservative strong parents and weak liberal kids, the terms relative to the times. That means traditional values can include segregation, monarchism, and sure, anti-gay policy. It comes down to telling an anti-slavery kid that they are spoiled on the fruits of slavery and blind to it's benefits.
>>151331083Thats weird since they voted for him
>>151326264Charlie is totally a "thinks about the Roman empire" type.Not every day though, despite what he says.
>>151331090>Thats weird since they voted for himMost of /pol/ isn't even fucking American.
>>151331111Who do you think american /pol/tards voted for
>>151331081>Nobody has gotten canceled for saying "I think only two genders exist"https://quillette.com/2020/07/30/think-cancel-culture-doesnt-exist-my-own-lived-experience-says-otherwise/>Male and female are not social constructs, but are real biological categories that do not fall on a spectrum.
>>151331084>what is the basis of saying it's a both sides thing?You really just don't get it, do you? Please ask someone, a real human being, what the term "anecdotal" means and come back to me.I'd tell you to ask grok, but I have a feeling you would think I would have meant that literally.
>>151331120lmao is this a joke article
>>151331118You can vote for someone you disagree with, you know.
>>151331149>>151331083>dude I fucking HATE Trump but hell yeah I voted for himlol
>>151331148No, it is not. That man lost his job and was refused a job because he said "I think only two genders exist".Are you willing to concede yet, or do you want another example?
>>151331081>Nobody has gotten canceled for saying "I think only two genders exist" lmao dudeThere's no need to lie
>>151331059>guy says "there's only two genders">runs on that>becomes president>anon somehow bitches about being canceled for saying there are only two gendersAnon, you're such a fucking faggot.
>>151331162>hmm i have a choice between a conman and someone who wants me and my family dead>i know! i'll choose the person who wants me and my family dead because the conman did something illegal in the past!Are you for real?
>>151331064Please reread
>>151331168>person with power doesn't experience consequences for stating beliefs that go against the zeitgeistSTOP THE PRESSES
>>151331176>someone who wants me and my family deadHow did she want you and your family dead?
>>151331163Doesnt look like he got canceled and lol I think you're underselling his grift
>>151331064It's difficult, because you have to keep censoring opposing beliefs.
>>151331186He didn't just not experience consequences, he was elected president running on that.
>>151331176>i know! i'll choose the person who wants me and my family deadWhy do you guys post shit like this, it makes you look like schizos.
>>151331118No one.It was a choice between an obvious Jew lover and conman, and someone who genuinely hates them.The Trump general is regularly mocked.And you don't even need to be a realgar to know this. Just by checking in on the war once in a blue moon you'll observe this.
>>151331196>Doesnt look like he got canceledBecause he was interviewed? Please do tell me what you think the term "cancelled" means.>>151331203>running on thatAmongst many other things. I'm sure the two genders thing had some impact on some voters.
>the anon trying to sell the strong men meme as a neutral observation is a "they want you and your family dead" /pol/ tier retardlmao
>>151331217They really are bad at keeping the act going
>>151331217You're talking about two different people.I'm the first one, the later one is some other anon.
>>151331215What other things? The Trump "she is for they/them, Trump is for you" ad was one of the biggest hits and most played. Biden inflation was another and immigration was there too, but gender shit oversaturated rightwing politics. Kamala didn't run on trans issues, she didn't even mention them.
>>151331139Go ahead and explain.
>>151331232Can you prove you're not the same guy abusing a 4chan premium account, though?
>>151331232That doesn't matter. What does is that this makes it easier to pretend you've won by making out the entirety of your opposition as insane.
>>151331260>wanted to extract wealth from white people and invest this in black communities under the guise of reparationsYou think Kamala ran on extracting wealth from white people? lmao dude.Anyways you claim that she wanted you dead, where did you get that from?
>>151331239>What other things?Deportation of illegal immigrants, tax cuts, expanding oil and gas production, defunding schools that promote woke ideology, repeal the affordable care act...Seriously, the more I talk to people like you, the more I realize you simply have no idea what you're mad about.
>>151326264Understandable, I have pic rel as a poster in my room
>>151331302You have an AI generation as a poster?
>>151331314>she wants white people to become a second-class raceAnon you're schizoposting
>>151331260From the NAACP website celebrating debt forgiveness:>Despite facing disparate access to financial resources, Black Americans are more likely to work in public service compared to other workers. This, coupled with disproportionately predatory loans often lead to higher debt burdens for Black public service workers. This isn't for only black people.If this tops the list of "they want you dead" you are full of shit. You get that right? Why I'm wondering what motivates you to present this as an attack on you, evidence someone wants you dead. Why should you be taken seriously? You're here to sell a narrative of grievance to justify why you see the alternative as worse than Trump.
>>151331272Not exactly sure how you'd want me to disprove that.Hell, I could theoretically be everyone in this thread, including you.I wouldn't really have a way to prove I'm not.
>there is nothing right wing about the "Strong Men make Strong times" quote20 minutes later>so this is why Kamala wants you deadCalled it>>151330783
>>151331319How is forcing people of a specific race to give their wealth to another race not making them a second class?How is refusing to give relief to people of a specific race after they've experienced a disaster not indirectly killing them?No really, answer me.>>151331324>From the NAACP website celebrating debt forgiveness:That's not what i was talking about. This is:https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/harris-promises-1-million-forgivable-loans-for-black-businesses-kamala-tim-walz-men-voting-election-donald-trump-race-economy-november-politics
>>151331297There it is!>>151331000>A lot of what they do is hiding behind inference and implication and there is actually a shared frustration between them that libs "pretend not to know what we're talking about" because they're used to not needing to be explicit with what they believe or what they want.This may be wrong though. Maybe you're so far up your own ass you genuinely don't think what you're saying needs explanation or elaboration.
>>151331351>How is forcing people of a specific race to give their wealth to another race not making them a second class?That isnt happening though, you're on a victim complex
>>151331297This guy is a chud though. Also a pretty stupid quote, nobody is confused by what chuds are arguing, they're just being disingenuous about their views.
>>151331341>there is nothing right wing about the "Strong Men make Strong times" quoteI don't remember anyone claiming that.Only arguments I've seen are that it's used by more than just the right, or that it's used only by the right.Could you point to the post you're talking about, because I'm not going to rad through the entire thread again just to look for what is potentially just schizo fantasies.
>>151331359>That isnt happeningWe're talking about promises made in order to entice people to vote for a specific candidate for presidency. Try to keep up, will you?>>151331355For what it's worth, I actually think >>151331297 is wrong.You're not pretending to not understand, you're seriously just incapable of arguing logically.
>>151331359>That isnt happening thoughNo shit. She didn't win.
>>151330673>>151330730>>151330799>>151331375
>>151331397Not a single one of those is claiming it's not used by the right.
>>151331384>>151331390>Kamala promised to take wealth from whitesShe didnt though lmaoAnyways you guys already did the "she wanted me and my family dead" bit so its too late to come back from that.
>>151329429>i don't think rome ever been ransacked by barbarians, not like at that at least. I'm sure some fucking nerd can correct me on that.m8 the Sack of Rome in 410 is one of the most important dates in the history of the Roman Empire and is widely regarded as the point that the Western Empire was rendered beyond saving. That's not "history nerd" stuff, they literally taught us that in middle school, and I'm an American so the fact they even taught us that at all says a lot.
>>151331412>She didnt thoughHow would you feel if you hadn't eaten breakfast this morning?
>>151331412>it's okay, guys! she doesn't want us dead, only turn us into slaves!are you for real
>>151331302fixed
>>151331412>She didnt thoughI never claimed she did.You just responded that it didn't happen to someone who was talking about campaign promises, which is a stupid fucking way to respond, since the guy wasn't claiming it was happening either.Even if she had said she wanted to do that, it wouldn't be happening because she didn't fucking win.
>>151331434>Kamala wanted to turn whites into slaveslmao dude>>151331426Arent you embarrassed to have the other guy agreeing with you
>>151331426You mean what I'm already enduring?
>>151326264>See this in the episode>"Oh cool, that Course of Empire painting">Go online>Everyone's talking about it like it's some kind of calling card for political discussion>What>Find out it was used in an image about "weak men creating hard times" or something>People now associate this extremely famous nearly 200 year old painting so much with some dumb meme that it's all they think about when they see itThe internet's fucking brain poison holy shit
This seemed like such an out of place... Reference? I wouldn't call it a joke.
>>151331448>Arent you embarrassed to have the other guy agreeing with youAssuming they're not the same poster, of course he isn't. It's a symbiotic relationship where one person acts unbelievably racist and the other states that he's sympathetic to racism because you can't disprove it.
>>151331454>The internet's fucking brain poison holy shitMost intelligent post in this thread.
This is why I never see Smiling Friends mentioned outside of 4chan except for under one hand.It stems from dumb internet culture and it swirls around dumb internet schizo posting.Which is all 4chan has been since the outage.
>>151331448>you're not slaves, you just need to work a hundred times harder than first-class citiz- i mean people of superior colo- i mean fellow citizens
>>151331331Just wanna toss out there that Smiling Friends made a psych ward joke in season 2
>>151331481Why are you writing this out like its a sexual fantasy for you
>>151331454Context matters.
>>151331448>Arent you embarrassed to have the other guy agreeing with youNo? Why would I? See, this is yet another thing you leftists don't seem to understand: you can agree with what someone is saying, while at the same time not agree with their beliefs.
>>151331483It's done that in every episode. Their building is literally next to an asylum.
>>151331498I understand it, I just think its retarded and makes you look retarded to just quietly go along with his schizo rantings.
>>151331508You seem to think you're talking to multiple people.But that aside;>I just think its retarded and makes you look retarded to just quietly go along with his schizo rantings.So you can only ever agree with someone if they're a paragon of virtue? Do you not see how retarded THAT is?
>>151331530Well yeah I quoted two different people here>>151331448Are you retarded or something
>>151330417Sorry but you are seething too hard to be funny
>>151331537>Well yeah I quoted two different people hereUhhhhh
>>151331551Wait so you double replied to my post? Cringe as fuck.
>>151331551>revealing you're a sameposterPack it up people, he's a troll.
>>151331559I saw that your post was retarded, asked you a question (that you still haven't answered btw), did a double take and was so shocked at your idiocy that I had to express my outrage.Not so hard to understand. This isn't Reddit.
>>151331351>one million dollars to help the black communityWhite republican presidents have spent more. What's the issue?What was the wealth distribution plan from whites to blacks?The aid to non-whites following the hurricane was just recognizing that that community was more likely to not have the resources to better escape and survive the hurricane. It's not anti-white, if anything it's using stats to show they are less likely to own boats and know how to swim.
>>151331580>actually republicans have given MORE money to black people than the dems ever will!Yeah just ignore that defunding of the Voting Rights Act.
>>151331576You claimed Kamala wanted you to die and to make white people slaves dude, you're retarded and clearly malding on post cooldown
Strong anons made a good thread.A good thread attracted weak anons.Weak anons made a bad thread.A bad thread was deleted by strong jannies.
>>151331596BASED
>>151331592That's not what's being said. "Kamala offering $1 million to under served black businesses" is less than the money that goes to black communities under republican leadership. It isn't a remarkable fund, it's a common gesture because, I don't know if you noticed, the ghetto fucking sucks. It's not a partisan issue.
>>151331620You're not black, don't speak for issues of race.
>>151331551>posting proof you're a disingenuous shitposterGottem!
>>151331580>White republican presidents have spent more.What does this mean? Spent more on what, race-exclusive benefits? When? Who?>it's using stats>"sorry billy, but the stats show that on average, white people own two entire boats! so that means you don't get to be on the lifeboat, sorry"It's shocking to me that you don't recognize just how insane you sound.>You have been banned from /co/ for postingYou think that will stop me? Silly mods. You are powerless here!
>>151331296>illegal immigrantsI already mentioned that.>tax cutsStandard.>expanding oil and gas productionThis has been tried for 10 years, it's not a platform, it's what everyone wants. Production and exploration slowed because adding more gas to the supply lowers profit and it's costly to explore.>defunding schools that promote woke ideology,Not really that popular. They mostly got the anti-CRT thing out of their system. They don't even talk about it because it's embarrassing to get worked up about something, get into a position to find and stamp it out, and learn it isn't there, there are just some fag books in the library and the race issue gets dropped.>repeal the affordable care actUnpopular especially since Trump is open about not having a plan to replace it.I mentioned the big ones that matter, these are small niche issues that make for fun sidebars and breaks from the big three I mentioned.
>all those deleted postsMan it really was one schizo this whole time huh
>>151331708>4>"all those"
>>151331297>2+2=5>That's completely wrong>STOP PRETENDING YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND
I think it's time for the show to expand its voice acting budget. Zach can only voice so many identical sounding freaks.
>>151331720autistic response
>>151331702I don't get it.You said "Trump ran on two genders".I say that's not all he ran on.You ask "what else".I provide a small list of things he ran on.You then proceed to try and structurally attack each thing he ran on???As if that's somehow a counter argument against what we were arguing about?????That one anon was right. You people ARE crazy.
>>151331750Don't say stupid shit, and you won't get stupid responses.
>>151331756You're confusing multiple posters again. Probably because you're so used to samefagging.
>>151331769Ah my bad. Your post is also retarded.
>>151331728It's more like the left asks for sources and elaboration and the right leaves things as implications because they don't want to be explicit with what they are saying. Also the right is more anti-empirical, meaning that they want to discuss feelings with you and purple prose rather than logical consistency. Sources, elaboration, aren't what they like to present. To them, what they say and believe is intuitive and you should just get it.It's important to remember that the nature of rightwing thought is hierarchy, as in the belief in fundamental natural elevation of some over others. This means that calling out hypocrisy doesn't work because they don't intend to be fair, they intend to carve out and protect advantage. A thief steals from you and somehow pointing out their hypocrisy doesn't make them give you your stuff back though it's true they don't want to be stolen from.
>>151331801I think you switched "left" and "right" here, bucko.Strict adherence to authority is a left-wing thing.
>>151331801The ol Sartre classic>“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”
>>151331753You said he ran on many things and I said>What other things? The Trump "she is for they/them, Trump is for you" ad was one of the biggest hits and most played. Biden inflation was another and immigration was there too, but gender shit oversaturated rightwing politics. Kamala didn't run on trans issues, she didn't even mention them.I'm comparing the list to the big three I mentioned. If he ran on "many things" and you mention small things he didn't really run on, two of which relate to what I already mentioned, he didn't run on many things.
>>151331728>>151331801>>151331833>Literally the exact same shit the right says about the leftFuck the horse shoe, this shit is a ring.
>>151331801>Sources, elaboration, aren't what they like to present.Meanwhile, reality: >>151331351>>151331844>small things he didn't really run onPlease provide a source for your claim that these were "small" topics and that the two gender thing was a "big" topic.You either won't, or you'll provide a general source that proves jack shit like you leftist are wont to do.
>>151331828How so? The right is more pro-monarchy and anti-democracy. Leftwing shares power and considerations while rightwing condenses it.
>>151329375>Grand Strategy>Is actually a hexagon tile-based 4X
>>151331877Its more like the right just lies and projects, like this guy here>>151331828Since when does the left "appeal to authority" lol, leftists hated Biden and Kamala for being pro-Israel and weak neolib politicians.
>>151331877>both sides think they are right so it is a horseshoeRightwing is historically anti-literacy because an uneducated lower class is more fundamentally lower than the educated upper class. Fostering an anti-empirical lower class means you can better satisfy and control them.
>>151331896>Its more like the right just lies and projectsJust like they say the left does.Unironically just one guy in two masks.
>>151331911The modern idea of an educated populace was literally started by a king.
>>151331912one guy is correctly pointing out the other guy is a liar and you think that makes them the same?
>>151331931>one guy is correctly pointing out the other guy is a liarExactly what they say too.
>>151331943I dunno man if you think the "Kamala wants to kill and enslave whites" guy is worth taking seriously you might be dumb as fuck
>>151331949There's a lot of dumb posts in this thread. Another thing you have in common.
>>151331884>Leftwing shares power and considerations while rightwing condenses it.lollmaoSo the USSR was right-wing? And the CCP, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela are also all right-wing?Wow, you learn something new every day!Seriously, how do you keep yourself sane when surrounded by so many falsehoods and lies?>>151331896So what do you call the people who voted for them? Right-wing extremists trying trick the public into believing true leftists aren't the paragons of virtue that they surely must be?
>>151331878The biggest political ad campaigns were Trump's immigration and they/them ads.https://penncapital-star.com/election-2024/as-election-nears-republicans-pour-millions-into-anti-immigrant-ad-campaignhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_is_for_they/themInflation and the economy were ever present in conversation, way more than tax cuts which may relate. Tax breaks is comparatively small, no ad focus on it.
>>151331968Yes, they were very bad at being leftwing. North Korea even calls itself democratic. Hitler called his party socialist. Rightwing Christian nationalists campaign on freedom.
>>151327424Is that a guitar slide?
>>151331927That's cool. Who was it? What did he say?
>>151329577DICKEYYYY
>>151332029Called it! >>151331878Your first source only states that millions were poured into an anti-immigrant ad campaign.Not that they were the biggest, nor does it compare it to any other ad campaigns.Meaning that it does not prove your statement.Your second source only states that an ad campaign about the gender issue was commissioned. It once again does not state the size compared to other ad campaigns.Not to mention it also states this gem of a sentence:>"an RCT study by Ground Media released by GLAAD, an LGBTQ media monitoring organization, stated that the ad did not have a statistically significant impact on who viewers intended to vote for"So much for your argument lmao
Yeah, call me when Zach makes an Esoteric Jahanist meme and then I'll start pogfacing about references I know he's seen that shit, he talked about Walt Bismarck on Oneyplays.
>>151331968I think he means left wing as in modern American liberals
>>151332087Why do you want him to be Sam Hyde
>>151332107It has never been anything different.The only difference is that one group managed to get in power, while the other hasn't been able to get in power yet.Even the Democrats they vote for aren't as extreme.
>>151326975>>151327424i saw this fucking skull the wrong way for 30 years. i thougt picrel was supposed to be the "skull". what the fuck
>>151329577>>151329558you get some curse residue from it
>>151331313That's not AI, that's by Psicochurroz, who also does animations
>>151331833This is true because anti-semitism is anti-capitalism for retards and the right that actually aims to defend the status quo. Letting the workers and consumers look to jews as the shadowy conspirator working against them instead of the billionaires and investors generally directs their criticism and attention to ethnic topics rather than policy and politics. This isn't even a "muh racism" thing, it really is just recognizing it as a rightwing distraction that protects power and keeps workers, consumers, and citizens from addressing the real issues that make things harder for them and better for the upper class.
>>151331671The Trump administration enacted the FUTURE Act in 2019, which made permanent an additional $255 million in annual funding for minority-serving institutions, including Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs).
>>151326264He likes media about barbarians sacking villages, just look at the video games he plays
>>151332379There's a reason union busters back in the old days tried to pit Irish and black workers against each other, that shit is the oldest trick in the book
>>151332541Exactly. It's also why corporations push DEI and ESG. It's not just a boogie man smokescreen, a distraction issue, it's a means to keep the workers busy with divisions rather than giving them the time to recognize how it's them against the boss and the investors and taking action.
I wish there were other watchable cartoons airing that were actually worth discussion and emotional investment.
>>151332061Frederick the Great of Prussia, with some help from Johann Julius Hecker, and inspiration from his Father, Frederick William I. 1763 the Generallandschulreglement.While there isn't too much writing on why he did it, it is generally accepted that it was partially a religious reason, and to establish a social sense of cohesion and "Prussian-ness" in the people.
>>151332628That princess gwenivere or whatever show looked fun. Although I cant say I'm really emotionally invested in Smiling Friends outside of finding it funny and appreciating the animation.
>>151331042>Muh racists being villifiedGood. Go back to your basement chud
>>151332650Friedrich II is nothing but a warmonger who only succeeded thanks to nepotism in the highest rungs of European monarchy.
>>151332672And he's still the guy who implement the modern idea of an educated populace.
>>151332628The characters and topics are more challenging. To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Smiling Friends.
>>151332656It's one pilot, and it just looked like Avatar with an off-brand Disney coat of paint. I want an actual 65-episode syndicated show like my childhood, not a bunch of webshows that release one episode every six months.
>>151326975>>151327482>>151327676I’ve got a little print of Goya’s El Coloso in my living room.
>>151332891Dammit forgot the image.
>>151330636Holy shit
I think Zach voted for Trump and feels guilty about it. Charlie being an obvious rightie and also a total loser means something
>>151333001It means you're an armchair psychologist.
>>151332850>and it just looked like Avatar lolwat
>>151331968If it's bad, it's right wing anon. You are arguing with a child and that is the most logic they can muster.
>>151333020How were you not reminded of Avatar what with the whole "lost incarnation of a long line of specials" premise?
>>151333001He probably did, but Charlie just launders the image of a Trump voter as a silly Christian guy who thinks of the fall of Rome and plays grand strategy games. The enemies are edgy atheists and Bill Nye saying death is fine. It's funny Lisa Simpson hates fascism. On a stream he laughed about some brainlet anti-atheist soijak. It's fine, his perspective makes for a uniquely funny show and I appreciate it. He strikes me as a former Obama voter that went with Trump in a swing state.
>>151327676>said reply was to the demand of the Ottoman Sultan for the Cossacks to surrender the Ottoman fort that they had just spend months to capture>said reply was allegedly "Sultan, son of the cursed Sultan of Turkey, companion of Satan, hellish abysmal Sultan of Turkey, Greek pedestal, cook of Babylon, armourer of Jerusalem, wheelwright of Assyria, winegrower of greater and lesser Egypt, Alexandrian pig farmer, Armenian saddle-piece, Tatar dog, accursed viper living in the world, thief of Kamenets-Podolsky and all the world, subject of the spider and the scarecrow, bogeyman of the whole world, Turkish district busurman [Muslim], I am equal to the body, slanderer of Satan, whole host of hell, cursed messenger of Satan, enemy of the God and persecutor of his servants, hope and comfort of the busurmen [Muslims], and their downfall and sorrow. We will not yield to you, but we will fight you."We're mere children playing at soldiers on this site. Kudos, sirs
>>151333102I don't want to watch a show that dogwhistles alt-right politics.
>>151333142Then don't. Go live your life.
>>151329429>The name of the paiting is the fall of romeNo. It's "Destruction". It was not meant to be Rome, but part of a series of paintings that show the growth, death, and decay of civilization. This painting was preceded by "The Consumation of Empire" and what follows is "Desolation" where following the collapse of civilization implies it will never return. Even if humanity persists, what comes after will never be the same. This was done by an American painter and was to reflect his cynical views on civilization. This was painted around the time issues of race were reaching a boiling point and tearing Americans apart. Then the Civil War happened.
>>151333148I don't have a life to live. I have no friends and there's nothing that makes me happier than insulting people and throwing death threats at them.
>>151333154Ah you're a groyper
>>151332650>>151332691It's good that he did that, but leadership with the power to implement education programs like that were mostly monarchs. Baseline education for religious and nationalist purposes is different than education so that government transparency and accountability can be more possible.
>>151333164What the fuck? No.>>151333152It is very much supposed to be the Roman Empire. The US founded itself on being Romaboos, what the hell other civilization is it supposed to be
>>151333171And then the goal post shifted.
>>151326264Yes, if i was rich with a big house i would fill my house with renaissance painting of gingers girls, there is something so beautiful about the way these artists drew men and women, but i would use silver frames as anything gold is jew, real men prefer silver
>>151333142>>151333154It's funny how the concept of death threats online went from, in 2015 "we get death threats all the time playing video games lmao tits or GTFO" to "omg no gamer aren't toxic" in 2016 to "stochastic terrorism isn't real freedom of speech means I can call you all pedos and say it's okay to kill pedos" to now "calling people nazis can get them killed and should be considered a death threat".
>>151333185>what the hell other civilization is it supposed to be>tfw nu-4chan is so historically illiterate they can't recognize Tartariahttps://ugetube.com/watch/the-tartarian-meltdown-lost-history-of-earth-what-on-earth-happened_ngE8lLhRNVXZ75J.html
>>151333185>It is very much supposed to be the Roman Empire.Rome wasn't built in a valley, Thomas always called it "The empire" never Rome, and the soldiers in "Destruction" wear are a couple hundred years out of date for the Western Roman Empire.
>>151333207Lincoln was a republican who fought the south and freed their slaves yet the republicans get so mad about confederate monuments being taken down.
>>151333224It's funny how you contribute what is not only very likely to be made up quotes, if not at least highly paraphrased, but also extremely likely to be from completely different individuals, to being said by the same person.
>>151333256And?
>>151333303Sure thing buddy.
>>151333303Sever them and get friends who aren't misogynists.
I mean "sever" in the Somethingawful sense of "cut ties with your friends". I am not saying to cut people. Just clarifying that for the mods.
>>151326264Are Romantic paintings considered chudcore now
>>151333353That one in particular is associated with the fall of a western civilization. Righties fixate on the fall of the west.
>>151333353Everything is chudcore now. Like cars? Chud.Work out? Chud. Don't work out? Chud.Like dogs? Chud. Like history? Chud.
>>151333390No it's this>>151333371
>>151333353In the context we're shown it in, yes.
>>151333396>Think about Rome? Chud.
>>151333353Charlie's phone background is a pretty blatant confirmation
>>151333408There's a difference between being like "Rome was cool and interesting" and "the west has fallen...strong men make strong times..."
>>151333424You do know that picture has been posted online long before 2016, right?
>>151333436What does that have to do with my post
>>151333436Respond to what you're replying to, not to an argument you made up.
>>151333371>inferring that any society, of any kind, that has the actual capacity to fall and decline is still somehow worthy of said fall being put off indefinitelyEverything dies. Even the stars. What makes *you* so fucking special?
>>151333461This bitch had it coming btw
>>151333461No? That doesnt even make sense as a come back. It just makes you look weird.>Charlie Kirk fans are bigoted freaks>OH YEAH?! WELL WHAT IF I SAID RAPE AND TORTURE WERE BASED?!Like did you think this through at all?
>>151333441>>151333444The argument is that Destruction is a chud thing because "weak men, bad time".Which doesn't hold up because it was popular not only before the stupid meme phrase you associate with it existed.
>>151333487The real lesson is that Communists aren't people.
>>151333480That doesn't even begin to be a response.
>>151333498Its a chud thing now though.
>>151333498No, the argument is that the context this painting is used in is as an alt-right dogwhistle.
>>151333504>Righties fixate on the fall of the west.Just responding to your statment in general, and its a valid question to them. Why *should* Western civilization as we know it continue to exist, forever? Make makes it worthy of such a break from the natural order?
>>151333513Yeah, just like liking cars, dogs, and workouts.>>151333524The context is that guy bought it and has it in his apartment.You've made up a schizo context in your own head to get mad at.
>>151333547A guy who has a photo of Trump surviving being shot as his phone background and is a surrogate character for a creator who is friends with Nazi fetishist Shadman.
I dont get the debate. Charle has always had lite-chud vibes that this episode just builds further on. Not total chud.
>>151333588>A guy who has a photo of Trump surviving being shotHe doesn't. Trump is nowhere in the episode. Or in the show for that matter.>creator who is friends with Nazi fetishist ShadmanZach isn't friends with Shad.
>>151333617Liar.
>>151333659You can go and look through the show, and you wont find Trump anywhere.And Zach and the rest of the Sleepy Cabin guys cut ties with Shad after he got arrested during his armed drug crashout, in I think, 2017.You're angry about shit you've made up in your own head.
>>151333695>Zach and the rest of the Sleepy Cabin guys cut ties with Shad after he got arrested during his armed drug crashout, in I think, 2017.Ricepirate posted bail for him.
>>151333744And they haven't been friends with Mick since his "Power move".
>>151333695>you now remember Shadman getting arrested>it happened in 2021Why does 4 year ago feel like it was 20 goddamn years ago? Christ.....
>>151333751Ricepirate has gotten roles in this show and in other anime.
>>151333775Was it that recent? Shit, it feels like fucking ages ago.>>151333790He hasn't had any since their fall out. And what the fuck does him getting roles in anime have to do with anything?
>>151333751What "power move"?
>>151333544Nothing in that statement suggest the west should or should not fall.
>>151330682He’s always been a Mr Frog fan.
>>151333835Don't remember the details, but Mick was trying to get with the lady that Chris was dating at the time, and at some point during a party of some sort he did something that was meant to try and intimidate Chris, and then went over to said lady and went "Just so you know, that was a power move."There's probably some autistic deep dive video on youtube about it, or someone who's way deeper into the rabbithole than me might be able to explain it better.
>>151333695>>151330682Yeah man this had nothing to do with Trump lmao
>>151333547Are you the guy from earlier who kept samefagging and ban evading or are you some other disingenuous retard
>>151334004Oh shit, I guess Mr. Frog is actually Jeb Bush.>>151334026Sorry, I can't be imaginary people you make up in your head.
>>151330422It's more truthful than metaphor.Good economic times breeds complacency and weak men, who grow up thinking everything is safe, sane, and prosperous and that if you aren't middle or upper class, you are a mental and/or societal defect. They can't handle adversity, sudden drop in status, lifestyle, and career.Then the shit hits the fan. Economy crashes, war breaks, and the world turns to shit as the middle class gets squeezed out of existence as the time of plenty comes to an end. This leads to the rise of men who have to fight tooth and claw for everything as those who just cruise through life sink under the weight of their learned helplessness.The meme is big now because we are in the hard time phase and have been since the start of the century and the frustration is that society at large hasn't crashed 1929 Great Depression style because of Blanche DeBois style denial because LAST TIME society crashed, we ended up with Nazis and six million dead Jews.
>>151334082But that's all incidental. The meme points more to causal as in strong men make good times and weak men make hard times. It's not "well the weak men are going to have a bad time when the hard times come", it's "Starbucks sipping iPhone posting capitalism criticizers are weak men who cause hard times because they don't vote in line with traditional values that made the good times."
>>151326322This
>>151326264for me, it's the destruction of Pharaoh's Host. Somehow both chaotic and tranquil. I love it.
>>151326264Another thread ruined by Christcucks
>>151335273Damn, that's a really fucking cool of the horizon.
>>151331042You’re not a conservative, stop lumping yourselves in with us you double nigger. Goes for all of MAGA: you’re populists, not conservatives. Nothing in the modern Republican party is conservative, especially the fiscal and privacy policy. That, and you forget that conservative politics were so popular that it got Bill Clinton in to the White House and pushed the entire Democratic party to be as moderate as possible. It wasn’t until Obama came in to office you saw the shift left again, and Obama was a populist president with a cult of personality around him. Trump is a right-wing Obama 2.0, down to trying to steal a peace prize like the nigger he is. Your ilk has literally pushed the pendulum as far as you could next expecting it to swing the other way. Congratulations, you played yourselves and can go back to self-pitying in your clubhouse. Tell me you’re born after 9/11 without telling me.And for fucks sake, sage if you aren’t going to actually stay on topic to the thread you cancerous tumors. I liked the paintings people were posting…
>>151335273>........Moses!!!!!!..............Images you can hear, hot damn
>>151335584I know right? The Pyramids in the distance, the juxtaposition of the calm yet dark heavens against the violence of the waves, destroying the Egyptian army, the blood-red sun shining on it all. Genuine perfection. Easily my favorite piece by John Martin, which is saying something given his repertoire.