Being Steve Rogers is suffering.
It's okay, Steve can just hand his mantle off to a random black dude like he always does.
I can't wait to not watch this.
>>151337163The Russo brothers are hacks. They don’t know how to make a movie unless Captain America is somehow involved. On top of that, all Kevin Feige cares about is Iron Man. It makes this feel like it was all for nothing. Why is it called the Marvel Cinematic Universe when the only two characters it puts in the spotlight when it’s time for crossovers are Steve Rogers and Tony Stark? Why else would you take a character like Doctor Doom, who is fueled by his endless seething for Mr. Fantastic, and somehow find a way to tie it into Captain America?
>>151337163I like the idea that the creators now have to pay the price for being so attached to the Steve/Peggy ship that they destroyed the universe by making him irresponsibly abandon everyone to go be with this lady.Sharon Carter gets her revenge for being replaced by this minor character from the comics who wasn’t even in the original wartime Cap stories.
>>151337310They tried Dr.Strange but the pathetic middke aged dykes running things just....ruined everything
>>151337163>Noted archrivals Steve Rogers and Victor Von Stark
>>151337163>tony goes back in time to kill steve in the past>he walks in on steve sucking peggy's fat tit>steve just looks at this guy in green and wearing a metal mask>doesn't stop sucking and ignores him
Is this what you wanted, Fox haters? Is this what you anticipated when you screamed all throughout the 2010’s for the Fantastic 4/Dr. Doom rights to go back to Marvel?
>>151337163So this is the same thing as Bucky killing Tony's parents?
>>151337422I mean, FF fans are better off now that Disney has the rights because the comic was un-canceled and they started getting merch again.Disney’s treatment of the Fox properties had an element of blackmail as far as fans were concerned. “Root for us to get the rights back or we’ll treat them like shit forever.”
>>151337492Still cracks me up how they denied un-cancelling FF because of the Fox buyout. "No man we TOTALLY were only waiting for the right creative team to come along".
>>151337492No one read FF that much however. And Disney has FAILED the franchise miserably. The tim story FF was litterally the blueprint the first Ironman followed Except for having a hot wifey.
>>151337670>The tim story FF was litterally the blueprint the first Ironman followedNo it wasn't
>iron man vs cap again, but MULTIVERSAL!!!!1Fuck that shit>>151337231Same bro
>>151337670I thought First Steps was surprisingly excellent. It’s one of the only MCU movies that’s trying to resemble and pay homage the comics, with this one specifically resembling the 60’s Lee/Kirby run.
>>151337163Everything about Doomsday and Secret Wars just reeks of desperation. And not like “let’s try to get the fans back” desperation but “oh god please come back we’re sorry look here’s RDJ as Doom and Chris Evans is back too and the old X-Men isn’t that cool see we’re cool again PLEASE go to our movies again!” desperation. If not building towards something didn’t pan out then Kang didn’t pan out so they had to hard pivot why not hard pivot to making Fantastic Four or X-Men work? Why this pathetic desperation?
>>151337310I mean, do you want to see Pedro Pascal? Or any of the Avengers they botched? No one does.
>>151337867>they had to hard pivot why not hard pivot to making Fantastic Four or X-Men work?They would've had to delay several films for years, and the greedy fucks at Disney are bitches about maintaing their deadlines.
>>151337163Irredeemable horse shit if that's what actually happens
>>151337867You left out the part where they need a reboot stat (which they won't pull proper anyway, leaving most of the stinkers around).
>>151337870Pedro Pascal was unironically a great Reed Richards.
>>151337984Ok, Pedro.
>>151337867>oh god please come back we’re sorry look here’s RDJ as Doom that’s just driven people away further lmao. find one person who is excited about that casting. from what i’ve seen, everyone sees through it as not only desperate but flat-out retarded.
>>151337950Expanding on that: part of the reason the Star Wars sequels came out as bad as they did was due to the short amount of pre-production each of them were given, leading to Lucasfilm not being able to plan them with due time. Disney was dead set on having TFA release in 2015 despite Kennedy pushing back to delay it.Just as a personal theory, I do believe the reason of why FF had so many scenes cut was due to the VFX not being ready in time for release, since Disney was set on the july spot.
>>151338026Should have just done Superior Iron Man, can even putrefy Spider-Man's origin further by having him introduce the symbiote. God.
>>151338026This. Normies are just confused, filmbros are rightfully calling Feige & co. desperate, and comic fans are upset for the inevitable changes the character will endure due to the casting.
>>151337984>>151338007Not even a fan of the guy and he did fine, 4channel just has a hate boner over him
>>151338031>I do believe the reason of why FF had so many scenes cut was due to the VFX not being ready in time for releaseI could see that. And it’d explain why Ben had fuck-all to do in that movie if all his stuff was cut because of VFX deadlines. >since Disney was set on that July spotThat really seemed like a “we’re not worried about DC, look at how we’re back” statement but then the movie they put out for that statement had literally all the problems that’s been plaguing the MCU
>>151338031No matter hiw much time you use and icingyou layer on a shit cake its still a shitcake.
>>151338082He was a fuck awful choice and yhe movie dud nothing to dissuade us from thinking that. Nigga should have been a Spanish doom.
>>151338056>MCU Spider-Man has to be so tied into Iron Man that even the symbiote comes from Tony No thanks. That would have been horrible.
>>151337197Do you have an example?
>>151338232>Steve, after hearing the news of Trump blowing Clinton, seeing the homeless black man outside Avengers mansion: "take this shield man I don't want anything to do with it"
>>151338161No, no, think about it, it writes itself.>Oh, you're just a lifeform enslaved by evil Mr. Stark? >Don't worry buddy, I'm $2bi Box Office No Way Home Reforming-Man. You did nothing wrong. It's not your fault. I bet a really bland cosmic villain with a funny name is behind all this.>Hop in, I'll help you. I'm not neurotic or creeped out by symbiosis at all!>-ACK!>I can't believe my father figure's evil version's goop betrayed me!
>>151338312Tom’s Peter is retarded enough to do something like this. If Feige saw this, he’d hire you as head writer.
>>151338269Ooooooooh, brain infection, got it. My sympathies, hopefully treatment works out.
>>151337163That's hilarious if true because it's just a rehash of Civil War with Tony blaming Steve for Bucky murdering his parents. Specifically Steve knew and didn't tell him and was trying to protect Bucky.Also that Doom is what you get when Tony Stark doesn't ease the pain with alcohol.
>>151337867Of course they're desperate. The capeshit bubble popped five years ago. By the time Doomsday comes out, Endgame will be seven fucking years old. Do you know how long the MCU boom was? 11 years. They've been floundering for half as long as they were ever massive.
>>151337163KWAB rodgers.
>>151337163Isn't this just EMH Kang?Did they literally just swap Kang's name out for Doom?
>>151337163This is just straight up stolen from EMH where Kang was seeking to kill Steve Rogers to save his future/empire/Ravonna
>>151339064Which is stolen from Astro City.
>>151339222That dude looks like he's just coming back to earth after making a slam dunk.
>>151339064Given how late the switch from Kang to Doom happened I have no doubt they’re recycling a lot of the ideas they had for Kang.They should have just cast Downey as the new Kang but I suspect they had to offer him a bigger character than that to get him to come back.
>>151339240Whut?
>>151339337There's even rumors that there's going to be a fucking Council of Dooms.But no, I think swapping out Kang was just the kneejerk reaction to Quantamania.
>>151337163>plot is Doom chasing Steve through the multiverse with Avengers, X-Men, and Fantastic 4 chasing him, skipping through iconic locations from past films where quirky combinations of characters interactSo it's just the Time Heist 2.0>>151337310This. The issues people bemoan phase 4 and 5 for started in Civil War and Homecoming. Which is to say, when the Russofication was complete.
>>151337837I'm a first steps defender too but it is absolutely not excellent. It doesn't excel at anything. It's simply not bad.
>>151339459>I think swapping out Kang was just the kneejerk reaction to Quantamania.That and Johnathan Majors allegedly abusing his Girlfriend (Though I heard he may have been exonerated)
>>151339459It was a lot of things. The Kang Dynasty probably had a dozen totally different film story ideas workshopped, and plenty of that work was probably repurposed for Doomsday. They claim they were talking to RDJ before Quantumania, but most people don't think that because of how desperate the RDJ casting feels. I think it's possible that they wanted RDJ Doom early though- they were afraid to cast Doom because they had no vision, so instead of trying to work out a good one they just went meta with it. Yawn.
>>151337163I doubt that is the case.>LE HEROES CAUSE THE SUFFERING AND THE CRISIS IN THE FIRST PLACEI hate this angle. It is meaningless. They tried that angle in Civil War too with Vision basically saying:>Since Iron Man appeared the rates of crazy shit happening have gone up massively.I understand that in these movies they often link heroes or their origins to the bad guy for plot shorthand because you can't focus on the villains enough in the run time... but making big huge universe ending events the result of this stuff is just fucking tiresome. Let heroes be heroes.
>>151337867The only reason I'm even going to torrent it is because of Gambit and I've accepted my favorite capeshit guy will probably be in this slop for like 10 minutes tops
>>151339630Both contributed.They might have considered a recast, but Kang flopping with audiences got them scared.
>>151339630As it turns out she was crazy as hell snd chased him down the streets. Hes a black guy in a major female lead and family aimed production. She was a blonde white woman. She can cough wrong and theyll burn his life down.>>151339663Its demoralization faggotry combined with narcissism. You think the powers tgat be want pekple to dream to hope to want to do good? Lol
>>151337231This. I am sort of off the MCU ride at this point anyway, and I can think of nothing that puts a sour taste in my mouth more than "One of the only characters that got a nice sendoff gets screwed out of their well-deserved happy ending".What a miserable plot point if this is true, its legitimately enough to make me not bother to watch the film.
>>151337163How can Steve cause an incursion by going back in time if there wasn't a multiverse yet? I know it's just sci-fi time travel bull shit, but in End Game the Avengers tried to do things in a way that wouldn't split the timeline and create another universe. Not only that, but if they did the new universe wouldn't been pruned by the TVA. An incursion only happens when someone leaves their original timeline and fucks around in a different timeline too much. Steve would've had to have left his timeline to cause an incursion, Sam meets old Steve after he went back in time. I know they can bull shit it and hand wave whatever, but it doesn't make sense to me.
>>151339757>T'challa rescuing someone's antique TV even though his own personal jet has been destroyed.What a selfless hero
>>151339672It’s likely all the FoX-Men will be brutally murdered by Doom because that’s what fans want to see is their favorite heroes getting fucking murdered
>>151339877Continuity is fake, even when it is the same creators. Any rules set up in one movie were made to be ignored.I know that’s cynical, but Feige doesn’t even tell one team what the other is doing, let alone make them follow the rules of something as vague as the multiverse.Remember how the climax of Avengers 2 was entirely about the Avengers acting responsible and getting all the civilians out of Sokovia and then Civil War was entirely about the blowback from civilian deaths in Sokovia caused by the Avengers irresponsibility?
>>151339964>Remember how the climax of Avengers 2 was entirely about the Avengers acting responsible and getting all the civilians out of Sokovia and then Civil War was entirely about the blowback from civilian deaths in Sokovia caused by the Avengers irresponsibility?This is a comics problem too. The connectivity problem. Everyone is connected to everyone, every event is connected to events.Tony Stark in the MCU villains:>Obidiah StaneWas his dad's friend and partnered with the Ten Rings.>WhiplashThe son of someone who worked with.. his dad.>KillianSomeone Tony rejected and spurned. All these villains could have been stopped if his dad had been responsible or different or if he had given a poor man the time of day.
>>151340065And Mysterio became a villain because.. Tony mocked his tech.
>>151339374C'mon and slam, and welcome to the jam.
Is Thor gonna do ANYTHING in this movie?
The MCU was mostly good until it completely shat itself after Infinity War.
>>151340718The MCU was always mostly meh but people ignored the glaring problems because of RDJ, the gimmick of team ups and building up to Avengers movies.
>>151340764And because of the dogshit movies Fox and Sony put out. Fox is out of the game, but Sony's slop machine is still going strong, to continue making Disney mediocre films look good.
>>151340764This. People were a lot more forgiving to the more mediocre MCU movies because either they were building up to Thanos or had RDJ or Chris Evans to redeem it. Fantastic Four First Steps was essentially the same as Avengers where you had a few cool scenes and the rest is a boring slog but it didn’t have charismatic actors to save it. Disney and Feige *really* needed to rely more on good scripts and directing after Endgame kicked out their two crutches but they just kept churning out mediocre shit and without the crutches people could see thru it a lot easier.
>>151337163How the fuck would that work???
>>151341530Better casts might have helped (there certainly is not a lot of charisma on display in the newer MCU lineups) but the big thing deflating the MCU right now isn't just bad scripts, its bad planning and writing overall.Like, there is *zero* fucking momentum in these movies. There was a constant sense of progress and escalation in the Thanos arc movies, you felt like a story was being told threaded between them. But think about how many post-Endgame movies are just total standalones with little to no connective tissue? Why did we have to make Inhumans? Or Shang-Chi? It took 4 years for anything from the Black Widow movie to come around again, and thats just some shared characters. Even the stuff that ARE technically followups don't feel like this: Doctor Strange 2 both doesn't make sense unless you have seen Wandavision but also doesn't make sense if you *have* seen Wandavision. Kang was introduced in the Loki show but that doesn't feel connected to Quantumania at all, thats essentially introducing its own completely unrelated guy who happens to have the same actor. And so on. Post-Endgame MCU isn't really connected to itself in any way that matters. The individual scripts are lame too, but the lack of coherent overstory is a deathnknell to their entire busienss model.
>>151341654>Post-Endgame MCU isn't really connected to itself in any way that mattersI mean I think that’s a good thing. You can’t just keep building up to big bads across ten years or keep things tightly connected without getting bogged down by continuity. Like who are they gonna do after Doom? Onslaught?
>>151337310I don't understand why they just don't make another Iron Man movie already. It's what they really want to do.
>>151341718Things can be connected without it being about a big bad, as long as it feels like what happens matters. That illusion, that the movies are a whole greater than the sum of its parts, is 100% what made the MCU work the first time around. But most of these movies, and almost all of the shows, don't feel like they matter one bit. Even the ones that ended on actual cliffhangers haven't gotten shit to follow up on them at all.
>>151337163They say Steve, but we all know goddamn well we are going to get Captain Carter again. That is all Disney will ever give for the last 5 years is fucking Captain Carter...
>>151338031That was pretty much it. Lucas took slightly over 3 years to make each Star Wars.Disney gave a dead set release schedule of 2 years, which rushed everything. Only a coke addicted speed freak like Abrams was capable of churning something out in that timeframe.
>>151337163>Doctor Doom manipulates Sentry, Wanda Maximoff and a lot more heroes to join him, promising them perfect lives (no void inside Bob, Wanda's family)>M'Baku sacrifices himself for Shuri>Doctor Doom kills several X-Men (Professor X, Cyclops, etc)>M'Baku sacrifices himself for Shuri>TVA assembles Multiversal Avengers (Maguire Spider-Man, Cage Ghost Rider, Evans Captain America, and Damson Idris Black Panther)>M'Baku sacrifices himself for Shuri>Tobey Magurie's Spider-Man dies, that's why Sony aren't planning to do Spider-Man 4.>M'Baku sacrifices himself for Shuri>Vision and Star Lord help form the Young Avengers.>M'Baku sacrifices himself for Shuri>Big battle between Doom, Sentry, and Sentinels against X-Men at the X-Mansion.>M'Baku sacrifices himself for Shuri>Doom steals Sentrys power and Wandas power towards the end>M'Baku sacrifices himself for Shuri>Invisible Woman and Mr. Fantastic are the main protagonists.>M'Baku sacrifices himself for Shuri>Loki does not die, he helps create the new Sacred Timeline in Secret Wars (World where X-Men/Mutants and Fantastic Four already exist)>M'Baku sacrifices himself for Shuri>Big fight in Wakanda with Talokan against Doombots + big villain cameos>M'Baku sacrifices himself for Shuri>New Avengerz, Avengers, Multiversal Avengers, and Fantastic Four combine for a large final battle outside "Yggdrasil", trying to stop Doom from getting to Loki.>M'Baku sacrifices himself for Shuri>Doom steals Loki's power and creates his new world (Battleworld)>M'Baku sacrifices himself for Shuri>Every character has a good amount of screen time and moments.>M'Baku sacrifices himself for Shuri>M'Baku sacrifices himself for Shuri>M'Baku sacrifices himself for Shuri>M'Baku sacrifices himself for Shuri
>>151341874It was a detriment they had NO plan.
>>151341654A big aspect of the pre Endgame movies is that they were still allowed to stand on their own two feet. Ant-Man, Thor, Iron Man, Captain America, Guardians of the Galaxy, those were all still perfectly solo movies that only had little nods here and there to other MCU films elsewhere. you did not HAVE to see Thor to get what is going on in Captain America or Iron Man. You did not need to pay attention to Defenders or Agents of SHIELD to know who the villain of Ant-Man is. They were all independent that contained cameos to show it was a shared universe. Ever since Spider-Man No Way Home, you are now required to do homework and watch other previous movies, watch Disney+ series, and take notes because every MCU movie now is a tiny fraction of a storyline that starts off directly after an unrelated Disney+ show, contains little more than a splattering of other MCU guest appearances, and then ends on a cliffhanger leading to the next MCU...thing. Whether that is another movie or Disney+ series is random. But villains and major plot points are introduced in a Disney+ series, you NEED to watch that to get what the fuck is going on in Quantumania or Dr Strange.
>>151341975Well having to stick to a strict schedule of 1 movie per year every year with no breaks made damn sure no one could invent one either. The suits basically set that franchise up to near immediately fail.
>>151342039Yeah, I think people really overstate the extent to which there was a continuing MCU story in the Thanos years. Most of the movie series were just standalone franchises with crossovers, there was no real attempt to coordinate them.There still isn’t really, but they made the arrogant decision that they would force movie audiences to care about the characters from the Disney+ shows. It was insane to stuff movies like The Marvels and Thunderbolts with Disney+ characters and expect anyone to get excited over them instead of throwing up their hands and deciding there was too much homework involved.
>>151342039It's really WandaVision, Loki, and Falcon & Winter Soldier. You have to watch all three of those series to get what the fuck is happening in anything MCU post 2020. For some reason Disney decided to bank all of their universe on the groudwork of three streaming platform shows and all stories moving forward are based in events of them. Just everything.You have to know that>Wanda is evil now>Monica Rambeau is someone who exists>There is a Time Variance authority that takes care of all split timelines>They are run by Kang>Who also keeps a dumping grounds at the end of time for everything he throws away>Kang wars with other Kangs eternally>Loki fucked up and reintroduced multiverse again>There is a superpowers arms race happening>Multiple nations know how to make supersoldiers>Bringing everyone back in Endgame really fucked up the global economy>Wakanda supplies various heroes and organizations The problem now is that they are too damn interested in cramming as many faces and guest appearances into a movie that they sacrifice story and plot progression just to have membrberries of old MCU and pre-MCU shit. They really abused the multiverse concept to have this
>>151341913Are you telling me M'Baku sacrifices himself for shuri!?!??!?
>>151342162The early stuff were pretty much independent movies, that just happened to have Samuel L Jackson appear near the end. The big issue with the constant linking things to Disney+ stuff is that they are connecting very unrelated franchises. People might be interested in one hero but not another. People may like Captain America style spy thriller action movies, but hate Guardians and Thor wacky goofy scifi shit. So people who like the comedy heist film style of Ant-Man are not really going to go for some over the top scifi adventure in Quantumania with aliens and weird robots. Now Dr Strange and Spider-Man are nothing but multiverse and timeline shenanigans characters.
>>151338269LOL
>>151337670FF sells only when you have a big name writer who gives a shit on the book.
>>151342209Adding on but TVA lore doesn't require knowing anything about Kang anymore, its that there's a TVA and the Infinity War Loki that got away with the Tesseract now is the linchpin/battery that allows all the multiverses to exist (also he's good now).
>>151341913Kek
>>151337163That Rogers's ending for Endgame was shit. I am glad Rogers get blame for Barry Allening the multiverse.
>>151338393Tom Holland was actually capable of doing this and did it around the time of Far From Home.
Does anyone else just not care?They could have Doomsday be LOTR tier kino, and I would only be moderately interested. Engame should have been the end.
>>151342699>Endgame should have been the endI think anyone with any sense believes that. Unfortunately we're not dealing with sense, we're dealing with Hollywood.
>>151337310Why call a franchise X-men if it's always about an australian pretending to be Wolverine?
If capeshit is dead and no one cares, why there are constant "leak" threads about it like >>151337163?
>>151340583He will cry for the death of Deadpool
>>151341530>it didn’t have charismatic actorsto be fair this was a general problem with Hollywood for a long time
>>151339525>It's simply not bad.That’s a surprisingly difficult thing to manage these days.
>>151341913Based!
>>151343000This exact face is the one he makes after sacrificing himself for shuri
which steve? there is regular steve, the steve that went back in time during endgame to say hail hydra and a 3rd steve (that went further back in endgame but existed when 2nd steve said hail hydra). even if they were the same steve, there would have been 3 steves existing during that hail hydra scene.
>>1513371634 Adaptations4 fucking adaptations and they STILL just refuse to adapt fucking Dr. Doom
>>151339630>(Though I heard he may have been exonerated)Oh no, not in today's world. Once guilty, always guilty.
>>151339716>You think the powers tgat be want pekple to dream to hope to want to do good? LolOf course not. Lord Moloch, the insane demon who hates everything good, wants to corrupt everyone and everything out of sheer spite. Because He laughs hardest when He is ruining good things.
>>151337163Wait, I don't understand. I thought the big reveal of Downey being Doom was a kind of hint that Stark turned into Doom for whatever godforsaken reason. But if I'm reading the image right, Downey is just playing an entirely new character now? How's this gonna work if they ever decide to do a face reveal in the movies?
>>151339464>The issues people bemoan phase 4 and 5 for started in Civil War and Homecoming.Anyone who unironically buys the "Pre-Endgame MCU was unabigously great" is most likely a shill or someone who hasn't revisited films of that period. A LOT of what people complaint was already present.
>>151339525Things nowadays have to be either excellent or the worst thing ever made, there's no nuance in film discourse anymore.
>>151344217OR somebody loved a movie despite the internet cynicism machine telling everyone they need to say “meh it’s ok” at everything as if that makes up for their dogshit personality and attitude :)
>>151339877The rules of the MCU multiverse are so poorly comunicated that they'd obviously cause confusion. That said, one can piece that it's not that "the multiverse didn't exist yet", but that the main MCU wasn't able to access it. What He Who Remains did wasn't avoiding other universes from being created (they pruned timelines, which is a different thing), but isolating the main continuity from the rest of the multiverse.
oh muh heckin nuance oh muh heckin nuanceis that…. somebody who LIKED A MOVIE?????????LOL WHAT A FUCKING ASSHOLE! BETTER TIP MY FUCKING FEDORA KIND SIRS M’LADY AND TELL HIM HE’S NOT FUCKING NUACED ENOUGH UNLIKE ME THE NUACED GENTLEMEN.You enjoyed a movie? Hella heckin KEK, you are indeed a pleb. WHERE’S THE MEATLOAF, MOM
MOM THE MEATLOAF
>>151341654>Eternals being so forgettable that people confuse them with the Inhumanskek
>NO, FIRST STEPS was NOT excellent!!!!!! You are not NUACED enough to understand that THE INCREDIBLES is STILL the best FANTASTIC FOUR MOVIE!
>>151342816>Why do people talk about comic book adaptations in a comic book board
>The Incredibles is STILL the best Fantastic Four movie!
>>151337163>Manlets Were A Mistake
>oh, waitress! *snaps fingers* come here, my poppet, I've decided on what I shall dine upon today.>May I have the BEARDY MCBEARDMAN MEGA BEEFY QUADRUPLE NUANCED FILM DISCUSSION MEDIA LITERACY BEEF BEER BACON N BOURBON BURGER WITH 3000 MONTH PINK HIMALAYAN SALT CAVE AGED CRUELTY FREE SLAVERY FREE NON GMO FARM TO TABLE CIGAR SMOKED GOUDA>Oh, and of COURSE! My apologies for not realizing that the hot sauce menu was a subset of the MAIN menu (albeit a separate pamphlet detailing the intricacies of each sauce, as well as pairing suggestions, would be a welcome addition (pass that along to your sauce monger)). I shall sample your in-house BEELZEBUTT'S 7,000,000 SCOVILLE HEMORRHOID HOLOCAUST NUCLEAR ANAL LEAKAGE XXXXXX FECAL FURY SAUCE; and, my sweet, mayhaps a bottle of it to go? Though I am yet to taste it, I am sure that my buddies at the barcade - yes, a portmanteau of 'bar' and 'arcade,' and YES, you can actually DRINK as you PLAY VIDEO GAMES, whatever will they think of next? - will be utterly TICKLED by the label your crew has concocted for that bottle!*taps glass*>and another post saying The Incredibles is still the best Fantastic Four movie!
>The Incredibles is the best heckin nuaced Fantastic Four movie!
>>151343709There's been zero real leaks of what the rationale of the casting will be in-universe, and so far there's only fan theories:>Doom is a Stark variant that went evil/was somehow adopted into Latveria as a chilf>Mainline Stark was actually a Doom variant adopted by the Starks>Them sharing faces is just a coincidence a la Cap/Human Torch, and he will take advantage of the situation>He's entirely his own person, and somehow gets hold of Tony's face/body to manipulate the heroes of mainline MCUAbout the last one, some have said that the FF post credits scene has him visiting Franklin so that he uses his powers and gives him Tony's face.
>>151344410>>151344427>>151344453>>151344492schizo
>Did you know that THE INCREDIBLES is still the best Fantastic Four movie?
>The Incredibles is the best Fantastic Four movie
>The Incredibles is STILL the best Fantastic Four movie! Nuance!
I FEEL LIKE THE INCREDIBLES IS THE BEST FANTASTIC FOUR MOVIE
,! ,9cr$i#s is ! be/ ,fanta/ic ,f|r movie
>>151340583I guess die, it’s not like they give a shit about him, but at least if they kill him off I won’t have to pay attention to these movies at all anymore.
Ṫ̵̢̮̹̝̣͊̉͑̒̈́̋͝h̸̡̢̙̫͉̗͂̈́̆̎̐̌́̏̚͜ͅé̶̱̙̱̻̤̄̌́́̚͠n̸̢͇̙̣͎̗̳͙͈͆͗̒̎̓̔ ̵̡̤͇̣͇̞̖͚͑͒̋͋̈́͐͝ḯ̶̛̙̯͙̄̒͒͆n̸̡̛̜͙͚̞̖̭͚̯̂̎̎͂͋͛̀̃ ̷̧̧̡̹̫̼̳̫͚̐͠ȃ̵̝͍͙ ̶̠̟̰͕̭̆͆̌̇̾̎̈g̷̺͕̠͙̈́̊̋̒̇r̷̠̤̊͑͆̓͊͐̍͝ͅẽ̶̤̜̐͌̄͆͒͠a̸̹͎̩͒̇̈́̀̈̐̈̒́t̸̨̠͚͕̝̪̭̑̈̍̀̒́̂̚͜͝͝ ̷̺͕̠́͛̆͛̉͝n̵̹̺̓e̴̜̪͙̤̙̍̆w̴̪̹̥͚̉͛̈̋̉͑̈́ ̸̨̝̭͉͚̏̄̐̌̀̚̚͜͝͝d̸̨̙̭̝͕̑́͂ä̵͎r̵̝̠̻̮͋k̸̡̧͖̜̩̫͛̀̚ņ̴̨̢̻̞̟͓͖̇̈́e̸͔̭̙̖̼͈̹͔͊́s̵̨̻̪̗̻͙̗͋̊́ṣ̷̷̙̙̻̰̳̙̘͙͕̟̓͆͒̾̏͒̆̈́͒̂̊̄͛͜͝ͅͅY̶͈̑̍̆̊͂̓̉̚͝ṓ̶͈͉͔̖̙͒̀̂́̾̚ͅừ̶̞͖ ̵̢̩̭̬̗͎̙͛w̵̫̓̇͂́͋̚͝i̸̧̨̫̜̩̫͍̻͓͌͌̍̔̓̔̓̾l̵̠͕̀̃͆̇͜͝l̶͙̳̟͇͊͗́̍̚ ̴̡̖͍̻̤͔̀̽͂ͅf̵̤̖͌̆̏̿̀̇̀i̷̧̘͓̣͇̘͑̐̃̋͂͌́̇͗͝ň̵̛̻̝̹̮̂͆͌͠á̷̧̛͉̾̋̕̕ļ̵͈̞̺̻͈̽̄̐́̈͑l̵̺̪͆̓͆͘̕͝y̶̢͖̓̓̀̔͂̈́̌̈͝ͅ ̸̤͎̖̍͌̃̂̊͑̓̎̈́͝ḙ̷͕̘̓̃̊̔͐̂̑͜͝͠x̵̧͘é̵̟̓́̃̆͂̕͠c̸͖͚͋̉͂̄̔̾̉̀ū̶̗̰͓̉͛͝ẗ̶̡̟̠̱̖͕̗͙́̉͛̈́̀̿͂͘͜͜͠e̵̞̫̗͗̏͊̆̌̍͘͘ ̶̨̮̠̞͕͎̟̳̱̇͊͗̕͜y̵̢̨͖͖̘̖̯͛͝o̷̞̩͍̠̦̻͎̮̫̕ư̵̪͕̞̻̺̞͔͖͎̆ŕ̷̫̤̣́̌ ̶̧̃͛͆̄ŝ̸̼͔͆̏̋͐p̸̟͉̫̑̀͗̒͆̉̌ę̵̝̞̦̹͗̀̉̽͝c̴̣̝̹̻̟̬̯̱͒́͗̊̍͂̀̉̈̕͜i̸̯̞̜͎̞͍͗a̵̙͚̒̀̋͂̍l̸̼̱̼̪͍̙̗͓͈̦̀̽͛͌́ ̸͇̞̞̮̪͕̃͑ͅp̴͔̣̪̯̯̈́͂̊̃̋̊͌͘͠͠l̸̢̩̻̞̺͓̐̒̇̊ǎ̸̧̩̫̩̺͎̬̣ǹ̶̨̧͈̫̞̳̻͕̠̆͒̈
Cock cock cockin’ on Heaven’s dough oh
9365 57
>>151339936This, i dont wanna see this shit if they unceremoniously kill off thr thunderbolts
>>151339936This retarded mindset has gone back at least as far as the shitty Spider-verse comics.
Now That’s A Good FridayThat’sAGoodFriday
But why did a man’s voice just say, “Now that’s a good friday?”
You see what happens?You see what happens, Larry?Do you see what happens, Larry? Do you see what happens, Larry? Do you see what happens, Larry? Do you see what happens, Larry? Do you see what happens, Larry? Do you see what happens, Larry?
Play by numbers
>>151337163>MyTimetoShineThat bitch is no longer credible morons
>>151338056I suspect RDJ, like Mark Ruffalo, has a certain level of creative control over his character in his contract and he used that clause to shut down any hopes of Superior Tony. RDJ likely thinks Iron Man simply can't be a villain, ever. The old "that doesn't work for me, brother"
>>151337163Awful
>>151342699Yeah, Disney magic has made me just not give a flying fuck about anything MCU or Star Wars any more. I really cannot care if the movie might actually be good, I just don't give a shit about the setting or the characters any longer.
>>151343634At least it's an evil armored guy this time around, they are getting a little closer. I cannot stand the 5th member of the team who turned evil thing they keep trying.
>>151339877>>151344298Dr Strange and Loki were contradicting each other in the ideas of there being lots of universes, and there only being one. Plus Endgame did create a Variant Gamora that the TVA did not seem to care about. Cap going back in time is also sort of a variant too.
>>151337163Ouch
>>151338312>the kids laughing at himThat poor bastard.
>>151348965This
>>151337163Here's your Dr. Doom bro
>>151339663That line was actually just the writers throwing a bone to fans of Agents of Shield and the Netflix shows, which everyone was ignoring in the films
All I want at this point is a trailer. That's it. It's crazy to me how this movie is supposed to come out next year, and I feel like I know NOTHING about the coming conflict. People have said that Thanos "didn't do anything" before Infinity Wars, but this is not true. >Thanos sent Loki after the Space Stone in Avengers>Thanos sent Ronan after the Power Stone in GotG>Thanos' army gave Tony nightmares about aliens>Tony builds Ultron because he's afraid of Thanos>Nebula's daddy issues, Drax wants revenge for his family, etc>Avengers split up over the Ultron/Sokovia incident >Tony hires Spiderman because the team is broken up and he's thinking of retirementLike yea Thanos was mostly in the background, but his plan had ripple effects on everybody. Doom desperately needs a good reveal.
>>151338232>>151338480Why are you being obtuse and pretending that the end of Endgame didn't happen?
>>151337163Why
