Tokon looks pretty cool but I don't care for some of these redesigns Spidey and Cap look busy as hell but it's strange because some other characters like Ghost Rider, Doom and Kamala are a lot closer to their comic look if a bit more detailed. Star Lord looks retarded.
>>151338670haha daddy long legs Felicia would tease him relentlessly
>>151338670I can't believe we still haven't learned anymore of the roster
>>151338767I was honestly surprised they even showed off as many as they did in the initial trailer but yeah getting a couple more last state of play would have been appreciated. Though I guess a bunch of X-men did silently get de confirmed. Maybe.
>>151338888>x-mansion >no cyclops or jean/phoenixsounds like they're getting added as playable characters
>>151339078I'm so sick of playable Jean, literally any other character would be better then her constantly being playable. What I'm hoping on the roster is more playable Marvel villains and not just the usual lot like Dr Doom or Loki and so on. Gimme Kang, Doctor Octopus or Baron Zemo at least.
>>151339108>I'm so sick of playable JeanShe was only playable once in a fighting game and she's a pretty important X-men character. >Baron Zemo at least.Zemo would rule.
>>151339108Doctor Octopus was dropped from MVC3 because he was too hard to animate.
>>151338670Wish they have the calssic costumes as skins.
>>151338767the roster is probably like 20 characters max>>151339108>KangHe could use something to get him over after the raw deal he got. But at the same time, he might be ignored due to that.>Baron ZemoI like Zemo, but I feel like he (and a bunch of other Cap villains) wouldn't have that cool of a moveset.I kinda wanna see Mandarin be used (especially if he gets the cool Shredder armor).
>>151339152Yeah but I think a PS5 and especially Arcsys autism could be able to handle Otto's tentacle animations now.
>>151339148She's also gonna be playable in Marvel Cosmic Invasion. I know Jean is important but I rarely ever hear anyone say she's an especially great or interesting character compared to other X-woman or Marvel gals but I'm biased...also yeah Zemo would be cool since he could use swords, a laser mauzer, maybe some Master of Evil summon attacks or maybe some Adhesive X traps
>>151340029To be fair, Jean might always be in, but she's still Storm's second fiddle.
>>151339842Kang really needs a W and him getting to be in Tokon or Rivals is really enough since It's done wonders for other characters plus EMH alone showcased how creative an arsenal of sci-fi weapons, creative defensive abilities and energy attacks you can give him. Mandarin would be a lot of fun but also pretty busted, I could see them making his ten rings working like Susanoo's move unlocks perhaps and yeah he definitely should draw from his god tier Armored Adventures design if included.
>>151340045Yeah I'm just salty I didn't get any of the characters I was wishing for playable base roster in Cosmic Invasion but I've at least got Captain America, Spider-Man, Venom and the pleasant surprise of Beta Ray Bill to play as. I am curious what deep cuts Tokon will have since Japanese based marvel games love putting in who they think would be fun no matter how niche or not movie focused they are.
>>151340096I guess it depends on how much free reign they have. The old Capcom games were carte blanche but then Infinity rolled around and they had to tow the line.
>>151340068I mean, Mandarin would probably be a zoner of some kind, so hate is natural.
>>151340225Marvel games and comics honestly seem 50/50 now in regards to synergy especially with the MCU falling to pieces and dying currently. I don't mind Synergy as long as there's interesting characters or ones I like get in, the worst case of synergy for me personally was Hank Pym getting erased and sidelined in favour of Scott Lang which has me pouty.
>>151339108>What I'm hoping on the roster is more playable Marvel villains and not just the usual lot like Dr Doom or Loki and so on.The devs are Japanese, aren’t they? You can probably expect good ol’ Shuma-Gorath too.Under a different name.
>>151340248Maybe a stance system could work where one ring is active which decides how he plays and his specials with his multiple meter special just being he has full access to all 10 instead of a flashy super.
>>151340278>The devs are Japanese, aren’t they?Yes, Arcysys who make the Guilty Gear and Blazblue games. >Under a different name.Gargantos I believe they call him now
>>151340278Sadly he's in the background of one of the stages so he might not be playable but I wouldn't mind then going for other villain deepcuts they think would just lend to a fun redesign and a interesting Moveset since that's how Blackheart or Dormammu also got in the MVC series. I think the Wrecking Crew or U-Foes styled after Fighterz Captain Ginyu/Ginyu Force would be a lot of fun.
>>151340339I'm waiting to see what they do F4 wise.
>>151340278>You can probably expect good ol’ Shuma-Gorath too.He seems to be just a background prop this time
>>151340360I'm so happy they are guaranteed in stuff now after years of neglect, X-Men fans act like they got sidelined but that's nothing compared to what Marvel's forts family had to be dealt with. The guaranteed things are that The Thing would be really fun to play with lots of brawler focus armoured attacks, Invisible Woman will be sexilicious with some interesting applications of her force fields or invisibility Moveset wise and Mr Fantastic will be an animators struggle but will nicely contrast Kamala's play style with how he uses his powers compared to her. Only one can't really guess or predict is Johnny Storm but I expect him to be more range based and definitely lot of flashy fire effects.
>>151340458X fags will always complain of the roster doesn't pander exclusively to them.
Jesus look at all the stuff on this stage.>Oscorp, Roxxon, Four Freedoms Plaza, Avengers Tower, Hellfire Club in the background>Dazzler and Wonder Man posters near the theater>Norman Osborn poster to the far right>Lockjaw sticker on the traffic light>JJJ on the news?And that’s just from this stupidly low-res shot of the stage. I bet all those banners have something nice on them too.I appreciate the attention to detail.
>>151340498>I appreciate the attention to detail.It actually gives the feeling it's being made with comic stuff in mind. Been a while since we had that. Though I guess MUA3 was okay. Still feels like they kind of tried to movie it up a bit, design wise and how the guardians were handled. But only slightly.
>>151340482Man, I still can't get over Maximilian Dood's absolute ass roster prediction/wanting. Like that guy can't be more out of touch with the Marvel landscape compared to the 90's arcade scene. Really the only X-characters I'd really want are Psylocke, Nightcrawler and maybe Beast since he's been fucked over so badly that he should get a consolation prize. Also honestly Black Bolt, Medusa and Crystal would be fun inclusions Inhuman wise.
I know it will never happen but Cobweb could be really fun to play as
>>151340616I'd kill for Sleepwalker or 8-Ball to get in
>>151340565It's not that I don't like the X-men, I do, I really want to see Cyclops in the game, but Marvel has so many fun and interesting characters with potential for skills it sucks to see it hogged by just one franchise, especially by people who call themselves fans and only want to see the same obvious stuff. Anyone who's read comics for any decent amount of time probably has a few picks that aren't so immediate obvious. >CrystalI'm already getting flash backs to fighting Gill in SF3.
>>151340647At least could count on Crystal not having a resurrection ability like Gill, I'd also prey to god they don't give her the nasty short hair she had for a while and instead her lovely luscious locks. Also honestly I think villains get the most shafted in Marvel games in terms of who's playable since you are lucky if get an unorthodox pick instead of the obvious 4 or 5 Marvel villains choices. Oddly the Inhumans push really fucked them over in the long run since Black Bolt and Medusa were almost playable in MUA3 but didn't make it and really it just lead to them getting shelved super hard plus getting extreme ire for being forced against the X-Men audience.
>>151340644>I'd kill for Sleepwalker or 8-Ball to get inI'd love those 2 but I feel Cobweb would be more fun to play as from a pure gameplay standpoint
>>151338767FF, Wolverine, Cyclops, Jean, Stormwho else?
>>151340801Arcsys certainly has the experience with a pool themed fighter to get 8-Ball down but you do have a point in how crazy Cobweb would be Moveset wise and especially in regards to animation. Honestly Sleepwalker's run and cast are severely underrated, I should try to delve into it once done my other binges of Greenwald's Captain America and Bison's Avengers.
>>151340856"He plays like Venom" sounds very funny out of context
>>151340458Doom's garanteed, but are the FF proper?
>>151341490Doom was shown in the initial trailer.
>>151341490Yeah they were all in Rivals and with the 4v4 system it'd be insane not to have them playable considering.
>>151341709plus movie.
>>151341744Yuh and that though I hope they have blue and black costumes not blue and white.
>>151341811Honestly after the eye sore that was Marvel Rivals I'd probably be comfortable with most anything close to traditional.
>>151341883On the one hand I'm happy Rivals is giving Marvel some respect back but I also only like half the actual designs from that game. I'm still hoping more villains get playable/added but yeah the art style is t really for me and I kinda prefer what Cosmic Invasion goes for and even Tokon honestly design wise.
>>151342067It hasn't been a bad year for marvel game wise.
>>151342250Yeah Marvel finally has been going well game wise which is nice. Shame DC is having it rough though I think Arkham games aside Marvel always had a better time with video games.
>>151338670I like all the designs.
>>151342717There have been a few decent DC games. Justice League Heroes is pretty good, it's absolutely mogged by ultimate alliance for a lot of reasons but it's something. The Flash GBA game was kind of fun though it's a real shame the Xbox one got canned. I don't know why they have so much trouble otherwise though. Not a huge fan of injustice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSw3YUnsCz4
>>151342793I had fun with Injustice 2 despite its art style/animation issues since had few characters liked roster wise like Bane, Captain Cold, Black Manta, Scarecrow and Poison Ivy plus there are some fun Batman Beat Em Ups like the Batman Returns, Brave and the Bold or The Animated Series one. Honestly a Suicide Squad third person shooter/action game could've been great but all the choices that went into it especially story and character choice was bafflingly bad. Honestly I would love a Green Lantern or Aquaman game that's done well since so much setting and gameplay potential with those two plus I'm biased since love their cast of characters.
>>151342882I refuse to believe a Superman game can't work. It very much can.>But too stroVideo game.>ButVIDEO GAME. LET IT BE A VIDEO GAME! You want to tell me that playing as a dude with cool powers who can fly around a city wouldn't be fun? It's especially galling when these same people will probably praise games like Kakarot. He's not too strong. It is a game. It can be fun. And no giving metropolis the health bar is stupid. video game.
>>151338888Pls tell me its not gonna be repeats of MVC
>>151342931Him being strong isn't even an issue since you just use Brainiac and his skull robot mooks, Mongul and his Warworld, or just lot of the space tier DC bad guys like Evil Star and Kanja Ro since Spider-Man/Batman games have no issue with guest villains. Plus yeah his powerset and abilities would make for really easy fun gameplay and fluid feel if you can lift anything, flying controls are good, have heat ray/freeze breath effect environment and include Power girl somewhere.
>>151343032yeah that's the other thing. It's not like he fights purse snatchers. It's gonna robots and monsters and things that can really give him a go of it.
>>151343064Pretty much, like instead of tommygun 50's gangsters it's gonna be like Intergang guys with high tech arms, Titano the giant ape, Toyman using toyetic mechas or Bizarro for a fun rival battle. Hell Kryptonite would be easy to use as like status effects like poison, bleed and the sort depending on enemy type or if fighting Metallo. Hell Parasite would be perfect for a segment where you are weakened and have to defeat him creatively or have Supergirl/Krypto tag in
>>151338670I know this is autistic as hell, but Spider-man with big hard soles is no-no for me.
>>151338888Being in the backgroud of a stage does not automatically de-confirm you for a fighting game.
>>151343413No, that's normal taste. The PS4 costume was gaudy as hell too.
>>151343446Honestly, Spider-man is one of those superheroes whose classic design shouldn't be messed with. The other are Silver Surfer or Spider-Woman.
>>151343430No, but it does typically mean you're not in the base roster
>>151343446This suit grew on me.
>>151343455It's certainly involved in ways over the years since AF15 but the whole base style of it is honestly one of the most perfect costumes ever.
>>151340809>Stormwas already in the initial trailer
>>151338888>Though I guess a bunch of X-men did silently get de confirmed.Based. We don't need the game to be MvC2 with 500 X-men
>>151338670it's the same reason Rivals' offerings of classic costumes always have something changed, they want you to associate the design with the game at first glance. if I see Susan or Reed in primary white clothing now I immediately think of Rivals, if I see Emma in a bob with no pants and diamonds on her shoulders I think of Rivals, if I see Psylocke with black hair eyeshadow and bangs I think of Rivals. Tokon is doing the same
>>151344623the last time Marvel games tried this tactic they all sold horribly
>>151344856Have you considered that maybe that has more to do with the games quality then the presence or lack there of with the X-Men?
>>151344883almost as if the quality dips when Marvel ignores some of their biggest characters in favor of literal-whos and players realize these new heroes/villains are not all that interesting. also MVC Infinite was a fine game, it just wasnt the MVC4 that people wanted. same with Ultimate Alliance 3, not bad but not what fans wanted
>>151344988I like Marvel UMA3 but that game has the X-Men in it so that's not part of the discussion. Also UMVC3 at the time was a roster with plenty of literal who's which was beloved regardless cause they played well, were well cast and had tons of personality even when factoring the usual X-Men additions alongside them. Infinite wouldn't suddenly of been better cause it had 3 or 4 X-Men cause the Capcom side still would've been mostly lackluster, the lack of brand new characters either side, the sloppy presentation and the graphics/art style unappealing regardless. You think Fantastic Four fans act like the absence of their characters is why the games without them or lacking them is the major glaring issue?
>>151339108Loki hasn't been in these fighting games. Sorcerer = Dr. Strange
>>151339108Kraven deserves a chance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WZdQD2kEk4I just miss marvel vs capcom, Disney's fucking No X-men mandate absolutely ruined Infinite's roster among it's many tv/Comic shitty effects as well. The years where we got AEMH, MVC3/UMVC3, and Avengers 1 and Avengers vs X-men were goated beyond belief when I was a kid.
>>151345462>Avengers vs X-menholy sneak, AvX was hot trash
>X-bros when the FG doesn't have 50 X-men: WHAAAAA, ITS GOING TO FLOP>Meanwhile, FF-bros : ...........
>>151345981It's even more egregious since even if the Fantastic Four guys were more vocal, they want at most 5 characters maybe 6 if they want to push someone who isn't Dr Doom and the F4.
>>151338670thumbnail made it look like spidey has boobs
>>151346006Which is too bad because FF has.>Mole Man>Annihilus>Silver Surfer>Crystal>Medusa>The Wizard>Technically Namor.>DragonMan>DiabloThis is on top of my head.
>>151346059Franklin?
I think they all look awful personally. It’s a shame because I would have really loved a marvel fighting game that wasn’t tied to capcom, and when we finally get a modern one they go ahead and mess up all the designs of the characters.
Marvel but anime could have been cool, but the end result is so bland imo.Japanese Superheroes doesn't even look that much different from western heroes too, just look a Gatchaman or Casshern.
>>151338670Where GODulk?
You want Ninja Psylocke, I want pre-ninja Psylocke (not post-ninja), we are not the same.
I hate to be a killjoy. Fighting games just aren't worth the money for casual players. These games live and die on their multiplayer, and we're long past the times when fightans had decent or interesting singleplayer.
>>151346379Is this what kids call a "thruke"?Btw I disagree but whatever
>>151346379I personally can't explain it, but Mortal Kombat still manages to sell well with casuals because of its singleplayer, despite its relatively abysmal player retention for its multiplayer.
People weep for ninja Psylocke, but what about ninja Kitty?
>>151346435Probably just due to brand loyalty
>>151346337I want ninja Psylocke and I want it to be Kwannon
>>151338888>Colossus watch as his sister gets in instead after all the attention Rivals has gotten her
>>151344988>almost as if the quality dips when Marvel ignores some of their biggest characters in favor of literal-whos and players realize these new heroesYes, let's not forgot the ever popular Marvel vs Capcom with it's legendary characters Shuma Gorrath and Black Heart.
>>151346337>, I want pre-ninja Psylocke (not post-ninja), we are not the same.Yeah, you're full of shit.
Need an excuse to make merch. That's why the design's different. To sell multiple versions of the same character.
>>151340809Jubilee, she's cameoed in a few games but was never playable
>>151348305you must be retarded because I said "ignore big characters in favor of literal-whos". Shuma-Gorath and Blackheart didn't come at the expense of Iron Man or Wolverine they were present alongside them. pathetic attempt at trying to start an argument but next time I suggest improving your reading comprehension
>>151349405Nobody comes at the expense of anybody else. That's not how shit works. We're just supposed to say that every character should be a forever lock regardless of standing and no one else should get a chance to be in a game? This is retarded. It intentionally creates a self fulfilling loop.>We can't use this character>Why not>They're not popular>Why aren't they popular>Because they don't appear in stuff>Well we better not have put them in stuff.You see the problem here? Now Shuma Gorrath is getting a super deluxe action figure because they were actually willing to take a chance with stuff.
>>151349475The one time a tentacle fetish did something good for the world.
>>151346435Even if the multiplayer is lacking and has significantly fewer fans, the single player stuff is robust enough that most people outside of the FGC will always buy the games.
>>151346086Hear me out: Galactus
>>151338670He looks like an updated version of the 90s suit Ben Reilly was wearing.
>>151349782The FGC needs to go take a long walk off a short pier. For the past several decades now they made it look like they were the only ones who gave a shit about fighting games and if a game didn't have a bustling online tournament level community the game was trash. But most people just play games for fun. They'll play on the couch with their friends or siblings. Nobody gives a fuck about impressing online strangers. But thanks to retards in the FGC that impression has changed and now it's all about online and streaming to the delight of nobody.
>>151346435>but Mortal Kombat still manages to sell well with casuals because of its singleplayerProbably because of the guest characters.
>>151349960>Galactusno it will be Galacta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA03f4vRsNcI miss when Rocket was British. Because you know, the Beatles song.
>>151350952I miss when Wolverine was canadian.
>>151343471thats not true either
>>151343430Looking like you are made of clay does.
>>151340565 >Black Bolt, Medusa and Crystal would be fun inclusions Inhuman wise.if they add crystal i want pietro to be in just so we can get luna in happy family story endings, off topic, but have luna and maggie(cap britains daughter) ever met?
>>151351085>maggie(cap britains daughter) ever met?Brian had sex?
>>151340498...are the greater marvel people aware of weirdworld? and why does it seems like simon is always attached to the projects?
>>151351157Yeah. He married Megan. And they had a little elf baby.
>>151351157yep. little super intellect child
>>151351085Crystal and Johnny were better as a couple and didn't have to invoke stupid drama and a child out of wedlock to be relevant
>>151351700I think they should get back together still. Have Johnny be a step dad to Luna. He;s the only one in the group without a kid of some kind. Johnny Storm should not be allowed to have facial hair.
I hope they add Magik, because she's hot.
>>151351700>>151351735naw, johnny could do better. id rather him be with lyja or frankie agree with the spoiler, seeing that shit takes me right out of the story
>>151351700Luna was born during their marriage you stupid cunt
>>151345577I was like 10 when it came out and thought it was the coolest shit ever. As an adult, objectively, not great. But I still have nostalgia for it.
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>>151346059I'd love playable Annihilus, he'd be such a menace plus all his lines would be screamed cause of how much he hates anything that could potentially kill him.
>>151346059I'm actually picturing Moleman being kind of fun as surprisingly nimble fighter who can summon various underground minions and monsters
>>151352045Crys was his first real love. It makes sense. She's great when she's no intentionally being written badly.
>>151340276That's the one example of synergy that I like. Scott has been the Ant-Man for decades at this point and only was on hiatus for 6 years thanks to a poor attempt to kill him off by Bendis and the creation of Eric O'Grady but thanks to the movie he was revived and went on to have great peaks like being the lead of Allred's FF or Nick Spencer's Ant-Man run, which the character sorely needed. And it's not like Marvel favors any Ant-Man in games, they have shit luck because after a decade of Ant-Man movies the only thing the series got was Janet being playable in MUA3 while Scott is an npc and the giga flop Avengers having Hank as another npc. Marvel hates the Ant-Men in general.
>>151340498> Aunty's Wheatcakes...they aren't just nips, they are fucking 4channers
>>151338888>mutiesdropped
>>151349163Some OG Thunderbolts rep would be pretty cool. Mach-1’s combos could be insane
>>151338670The entire art direction is bad and all the designs look dull and shitty
>>151355962This combined with the dumbass system of mechanics they got going on, and the constant stage transitions, it looks like shit. You'd think japanese Marvel designs and Arcsys would be great but I guess Arcsys must have been pretty disinterested in trying on this one or they are really that retarded when it comes to taste. Jesus. I hate japan and their constant overcomplicated designs. Same with western "artists" who add MCU panel lines. That's why I only followed cosmic invasion threads. The only worthwhile Marvel game coming out. Oh man Wolverine hasn't even come out yet and that shit is gonna bomb and be so boring. They hit exactly one blockbuster and it was 2018 Spider-Man and even then it was middling.