Bump if you're reading.
>>151347433Let's see how this pointless event ends
>>151347433Silva’s art is so bad that it actually makes Valeria look like a homunculus
>>151347495>strongest god there wasSilly doom that isn't Storm
And that's it. If you liked this, support your LCS or whatever.
>>151347495Surprised Silva used the older design for the Living Tribunal, I would have thought Marvel would force the newer GODS-based design on him.
>>151347589I feel if you were only reading OWUD, the readers are going to get really confused as to where Strange and Thor disappeared in this event, since that is not explained at all, so ending on this Wanda becoming the Sorceress Supreme page just raises Questions to the non-tie-in readers.
>>151347433>This is a love storyThey're finally acknowledging Doom groomed her?
>>151347440Bullshit, she had her head cut off last time
>>151347433bump
>>151347732Doom fixed it (to no avail).>>151347526>>151347534It's so disappointing that everything is just going back to normal. I doubt future books will even acknowledge what happened in this event.
>>151347534the thought experiment of doom ruling the world and totally fixxing everything but he had an evil people farm but actually the people farm was okay and consensual really isn't as interesting as these writers think it is. it brings up no questions morally, politically, philosophically; it's devoid of anything worth analyzing. The most you can get out of it is that these writers have little understanding of the world beyond a 5th grade level. There's no actual moral to this story, it's not saying fucking anything about the themes it presents, they're there, but unused. What a fucking travesty of an event.
>>151347534Seems a bit overt that they only made white men like Doom here.
>>151347560I wonder if Marvel will use Doom's death to make Tony Stark, or some duplicate, Doom to coincide with the new Avengers film
>>151347589baby making sex with Scarlet Witch (and other slutty fictional gypsy women) right fucking NOW
>>151347899There was a potential for a story about weighing freedom against prosperity. That could have been something, but instead I think this book was an ill-fitting Trump allegory.I bet when this was written the writers expected Trump to win, and then to be somewhat successful, as he was in his first term. If that's what they were going for, it didn't pan out.
>>151347563DAMMIT VICTORhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAtUSvVayM0
this isn't the worst marvel event of all time but dragging this out for NINE MONTHS, and attempting to leverage sad deflated MCU synergy - including a whole volume of DOA Red Hulk - makes this maybe the most pointless limp dicked marvel event of all timemarvel is the drizzling shits and circling the drain. books like moon knight, hulk and thor are entertaining *in spite* of the company
>>151347433>and across the entire cosmos, he was the only one who was, to her, special tooDoom please, you know that's bullshit even for you
So Marvel Comics is gearing up to re introduce Doom as a multiverse variant of Tony StarkClassic Victor is taking off the board for an unterminated period of time (like Nick Fury Sr)Fuck Marvel Comics
>>151347563>Doom announces a fucking free-for-all to get the country and all of his shit in itShit is about to hit the fan
>>151348179see >>151348085Marvel ran out of ideas
>>151348179this is like the 3rd time he's done this to Reed as well
Why are they making Valeria look like she watches blacked porn now? Why are they drawing Franklin like enjoys it too?
>>151348179Oh so they want to copy DC KO now and have a huge tournament for who gets latveria and all of dooms shit then
>>151348263Anon this was done in the 70's when Doom died the first time with all the Eastern European military groups fighting for control until Reed took over
>>151348297And?
>doom loses because he gave it up to save valeriaSo even when Doom loses it's not because he's beaten? I was expecting Valeria tricking him and taking his power away from him but it really was just her randomly appearing, dying, and then getting resurrected by a guy that beat everyone else. Doom's only true loss was when he was fighting Dormammu alone.
>>151348253There really wasn’t any other thread where you could have tried putting your blacked fetish?
>>151347510>>151347515having a bit of love for someone other than yourelf after a life of inflicting misery to a whole reality due to petty jealousy shouldnt be rewarded, even if there are conditions
>>151347534Now Marvel universe has crazy Doom worshippers along with crazy anti mutant people
>>151348790always had Doom worshippers. his country used to be fanatics at times
>>151347563I'm surprised he didn't leave Latveria to Valeria outright. Knowing him, he probably expects her to win whatever contest he cooked up.
>>151348809True, but they seem to be more widespread now.
>>151348363At some point, by mere numbers, someone will be the strongest, in every fictional universe. Someone has to be the strongest, it's just how it is.The fact that people have not made peace with the fact that in marvel comics that someone is Doom is their fault.He's the top one.It's the cosmology at this point.
>>151347522He must truly LOVE her.
>Still no Emily Bright
>>151347426So whoever had "Doom doesn't get beaten and denounced as a monster and imprisoned but gets away with everything and ragequits without facing a single consequence" was right I see. Hell, Wanda doesn't even get to fucking beat his ass to avenge all the bad shit Film did to destroy her life and become the new Sorcerer Supreme. And death means nothing to Doom; given that last time Doom died, he was running Hell with a week via staging a coup against Satan.
>>151349003He doesn't. It's canon that Valeria is a glorified familiar creature in human form Doom tricked Sue to give birth to, which is why she's amoral AND super smart. She's basically nothing more than an extension of Doom himself in the body of a little girl he tricked Sue and Reed I to birthing
>>151349203>>151349245Waid's shit is sadly non canon just like Heinberg making Doom the mastermind behind Avengers Disassembled and House of M/No More Mutants. It goes against the Doom wank so no one acknowledges it.
>>151349201Where is Spider-Man is happening right now in the comic with the hellgate shitUltimate Incursion already happenedBeware the Spider Woman is obviously going to be Mary Jane Watson post the spiral face symbiote and knull, as a "we unmade OMD with the power of love from both Venom and Mary Jane towards Peter Parker" scapegoat Emily Bright is what is going to happen during Strange academy after what she did.
>>151349245A loli Doom?!?OH! MY! WORD!!
>>151348161Kirkman must be rolling in his grave. If he didn't go full Iron Maniac, he might have gotten money from adaptations.
>>151348831No they made them Republican coded
>>151349245I'll be honest, Waid's Doom was intentionally depicted as far too evil compared to both past and future depictions of the character. Even if Doom didn't necessarily expect to like her at first, I think that has changed as other books (including Hickman's FF) did make it clear Victor cares for Valeria by now. So you have to explain away Waid's take as a temporary phase rather than as his current opinion.
>>151348017>If that's what they were going for, it didn't pan out.But trump is doing even better this term
>>151347495>Authoritarian willingly cedes power to save the youthYEAH THAT'LL BE THE DAY
The event was far too long for its own good. Way too long. It should have been 5 or 6 issues at most. Having said that, I do think Ryan North writes a nice Doom and this last issue was on point.
>>151350087Eh, he's better at doing random fascist, faux populist bullshit without the adults in the room holding his hand to keep it away from the fire. But he's historically unpopular, the tariffs were a mistake, his corrupt is worse than ever, the files are still hauting him, and the mid-terms look bad for his party.
>>151350136Cope libcuck trump is more popular than ever and will get a third term
>>151350110*his corruption
>>151347560Wait a minute this is just the end of kingdom hearts 3Is doom gonna show up in quadratum in 4 too?
>>151350150Nah. If he seriously tries to get a third term, people will rise up even within the U.S. Armed Forces since that's blatantly unconstitutional.
>>151350087lolHe's doing better at burning all of his support.It took him years the first go around to collapse this badly
>>151350178There are ways around that.
>>151350200Sure, fascist ways. Which deserve to be resisted.
>>151350150He’s going to be dead before a third term, anon. He’s in his fucking mid-80s.
>>151350234I bet Miller and Vance will be puppeting him around like Weekend at Bernie's before the four years are over. Biden was also getting ancient yet Trump's right there in terms of mental decay.
>>151350266Trump is the healthiest, smartest president we have ever had
>>151347563BATTLE ROYALE.
>>151347980oh hell no
>>151347433
>>151350087Is the goverment shutdown going?
>>151347589>Winds of DestinyI understood that reference.
What a bullshit end. I really fucking hate the maxwank they gave Doom, especially when he already admitted Richards was smarter on battleworld. I really wanted them to actually just beat Doom, but someone was too much of an idiot to do it.
>>151347563So how long until Doom is back? I will give it about a year. Just in time for the release of Avengers: Doomsday.
>>151352422This whole thing didn’t make to much sense, why would being sorcerer supreme give doom the power to do this? Isn’t it mostly a title given to the most significant sorcerer and not a power boost?
>>151347501Does anyone care enough to edit this to have Doom offer to end this stupid fucking event?
>>151349375I really hope "Beware the Spider-Woman" will be Mary Jane somehow.
>>151350087lollmao even
>>151347563Doc Doom left his treasure in ONE PIECE.
>>151352532As I understood it, he was the most super duper powerful Sorcerer Supreme because he was abusing the mantle in ways the others would not dare BUT DOOM DARES so...that. Plus as Dormammu said he wasn't wasting power on actually doing the job like protecting the Earthly plane. I'm not sure how much more mojo it gives you, beyond granting you access to a lot of shit, but the book had it that Doom was using it as a power booster more than anything instead of doing what the Sorcerer Supreme is meant to do.I wouldn't be surprised if in the near future we find out just how badly he's fucked up beyond just the Earthly politics as the next SS is going to have a lot of cosmological shit to patch up. This will be used as a post-OWUD way to throw shade on his time with the title as it no doubt results in demonic and mystical crap slipping through the cracks.
>>151347560>>151347563They really expect us to believe doom is truly dead? get real marvel we are not falling for that shit we know he is not really dead.
>>151349375>>151352711It won't be, it's Jessica Drew.
>>151354194But she's old and busted.
>>151353372He's dead, but that is meaningless. He's merely benched for the time being. He now has to figure out a way to bargain or bully his way back to the land of the living
God this event was over long dogshit, should have been over in six issues>Doom takes over with the Eye of Aggamoto power boost>Offers everyone a perfect utopian standard of living but everyone now has to work toward making Earth a galactic imperium >Heroes oppose him and get warped to another dimension, only Valeria is left>Doom spent so much time fucking around he forgot to prep for Dormamu's annual "Try to rape Earth to death" visit>Doom and Dormamu fight and with great effort Doom wins>Cut to a sixty year time skip and Doom is God Emperor of mankind everyone loves him and he's about to make a grand anniversary speech>As soon as Doom approaches the podium two black armored hands grasp his shoulders>Dormamu whispers "I can't believe you fell for this twice" calling back to Doom getting bamboozled by the Marquis of Death>Cut back to the battle and Doom is broken and beaten, no choice but to undo banishing all the heroes>Everyone is back, big climactic battle and Dormamu is defeated>Doom is stripped of his title by the Vishanti and told to his face how much of a fraud he is>Doom can no longer magically keep up his life support after the crippling and is rendered utterly broken barely alive still seething at Reed
What about all the doombots currently active?
>>151354194Far as i know, Jessica Drew is literally a footnote, and Marvel has plans to have Mary Jane as Spider Woman, so they have a proper spider woman with peter's powers.No one at the offices wants to touch her after the entire pregnancy and son shit unless it is to kill her or have everyone forget that she exists.Maybe changing her outfit, forcing her unto pregnancy and the other shit that happened in her book was a bad idea who would bite everyone in the ass, but who was going to argue against axel alonso, bendis and fucking disney?
It's possibile that's a set up for having Doom 2099 for the next storyline?
>>151355617>Marvel has plans to have Mary Jane as Spider Womanlol no, she's getting killed off in Death Spiral. Venom #250 bombed and the second printing got canceled, she's dead meat.
>>151355617Based on the current rate, I don't think Mary Jane would be Spider-Woman until 2027 at earliest, and that is a process of being separated successfully from Venom gives her superpowers way. VenoMJ started around Eight Deaths and the story is still mostly at the dicking around stage.
>>151352915WHO CAN FILL THE MIGHTY METAL CODPIECE OF DOOM!?! They get the country and everything in it. Even the Hulks turn out to be too small.
>>151355543They don't get to compete.
>>151355765Sure polack, and fucking paul will rape dylan and eddie.
>>151356039At this point the only people who still care about Paul are you and the doubly-schizophrenic idea of ESLposter you have in your head.
>>151355617Since Bendis is coming back, i expect he will have some plans for her
>>151356106S what would a peak-Bendis team be?? New Avengers+Kitty?
>>151347440>quién hizo esta diablura
>>151356224Carol, Jess, Luke Cage, Other Jess, Scott Lang to be killed off in a horrible, torturous fashion, and Danny
>>151356106Benis is coming back for a one off story from his time with the avengers.
>>151356245Does he even like Carol? She definitely had a rough time of it.
>>151356245Make Carol magically fat and reveal Danny is gay and I think you have a pretty good list.
>>151347470>>151347477>>151347485Kind of telling that Doom went to all this effort to resurrect Valeria Richards, but not the original Valeria she is named after. You know, his childhood friend and first love that he sacrificed to gain Satanic powers that he inevitably lost?
>>151357827He can always make another skinsuit, but Richards having a daughter is just never gonna happen again.
Goddamn this event fucking sucked.
>>151347526Honestly, they really should have gone with the "Doom mind controlled all the world leaders" route, because ALL of them agreeing to kneel before Doom is fucking stupid. I hate Trump, but I know that Trump would never agree to this, and neither would any recent US President. Same for Putin, Xi Jinping, and most major world leaders. Only third world countries that are already under the boot of the major powers would willingly accede to giving up all their power to Doom and eliminating all borders.
>>151358296If anything, Trump especially wouldn't kneel before Doom. MAGA goes completely against Doom's policies of open borders and free shit for all.
>>151358296Doom would just give him a gold gauntlet or something and he'd kneel down and suck his dick.
>>151350066>Waid's Doom was intentionally depicted as far too evil compared to both past and future depictions of the character.What you don't like that he flayed his ex girlfriend alive and wore her skin as magical armor?
>>1513525058 months
>>151347426I didn't read any of this but what's Kristoff been up to?
>>151358977Tried getting guys from the future as subordinates. It blew up in his face.
>>151358977He only showed up in the Superior Avengers tie-in, whe he was a total fuck-up. Also, Victorious only showed up in an Iron Man tie-in.It's kind of disappointing that Doom didn't have his own elite group of generals/subordinates to serve as bosses, all fights were against Doom himself. Well, and the dinosaur Doom, but he didn't get any dialogue or characterization for some reason so we don't know why he's even here.
>>151347470lol, lmao
>>151358568that was cool as a one time event, as his deep lowest point, he shouldn't be THAT evil constantly
>>151347899>>151348017it's crazy since the first thing Doom does is make all countries open boardersit's like the editors and ryan north had completely different ideas for the book like most comic books in this age
>>151358977fuckin'
>>151359019>Well, and the dinosaur Doom, but he didn't get any dialogue or characterization for some reason so we don't know why he's even here.Which is crazy because North came up with the character!! and did good with him in that 2 parter!
>>151358568Definitely a low point in Victor's life. At least he still had to care for her in order to make the sacrifice, I guess, but the idea was just too gross for me to defend it. I doubt he'd do that these days though.
>>151352422Richards is smarter and would use the power better, but he wouldn't be able to do what Doom did in this run (mostly because he doesn't have the drive).
>>151347563All the conflict and fighting over this is probably going to be a way for Doom to harvest energy or whatever to resurrect himself.
>>151359752Yeah but the idea that he purposely got himself to love someone planning to betray her is like... extra twisted
>>151359093Reed just can't stop himself with those faces
>>151360002>he doesn't have the driveRichards has the drive to do whatever he wants. You're conflating "want" with "drive." Richards would never do this because he doesn't WANT to do this.
>>151358296Doom paid them off and we all know trump can be bought
>>151358296>but I know that Trump would never agree to thisthe same trump that cut tariffs after he was handed a gold bar?????????
