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Only 2 songs I enjoyed because they stole from much better songs I enjoyed. They'd be better songs if they didn't keep interrupting themselves and they hired real singers, you know, like the original songs they stole from.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR2HHbBrvbA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKRcjcczQLs&list=RDzKRcjcczQLs&start_radio=1

Vivienne Medrano should have stuck with her Disney shit. She's genuinely good at feelsie Disney crap, that finale almost felt like I was watching Tangled. Poor Lute/Cassandra.
Whenever she attempts to swear it literally comes out like an 8 year old attempting to swear.
Don't bother with episodes 1-7, just watch the finale that's 38 minutes long.
They could have easily mixed this season with season 1 in order to make a much fancier finale. I honestly wasn't expecting Alucard, I mean Alastor to fight this season.

I did enjoy that last stand where just more shit came up while everyone was trying to disable a fucking bomb.
I did enjoy Alastor not really having to do much to escape and expertly using his deals and wordplay. It also makes him a complete push over and an incompetent retard similar to Lucifer.
Vox had a half good plan ... if you plan like a 14 year old.
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The world design still sucked ass and the action was amateur and hard to follow.
Shark is stronger than Alastor for some reason. Alastor is still stronger than Vox after he broke the pact that said Alastor is still the strongest sinner in hell yet Vox still loses without the shark. Shark goes missing after the cannon fires, Emily gets hurt by the cannon, Alastor in the next scene gets too when he was 100% healthy.
Rosie flips between genuinely benevolent to Root of all evil, like Alastor who says he'll let everyone get nuked by refusing to help to tug at Rosie's hearstrings to fix his staff. How the fuck does that work nobody knows, he can defeat Vox while he's at his 100% , but he can't fix his own staff.
Charlie felt like Phineas from Phineas & Ferb during the movies, completely flanderised, just like Lucifer.

It ruins the story and world design that Alastor has nothing to do with Lilith and Roo and is just an opportunistic retard like Rosie. Rosie's motivations also seem as retarded as Charlie's just like Alastor wasting his deal on her for something she could have said on her own without any force. How the fuck can Rosie create that much power yet not really put it to good use.
Still better than Helluva Boss's finales at least.
Why didn't Alastor get humbled by the 7 deadly sins, goetia or Beelzebub.
Why the fuck was Lilith missing and the exterminations going for just 7 years instead of 1000 years.
Why the fuck did Vivziepop make me chuckle so hard when they said "they killed thousands of sinners" bitch that's not even 0.01% of how much get birthed everyday since 1930. You'd require at least 1 trillion dead to even reach 0.01% of how many people died across the millennia in order to fix overpopulation.
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True it's only 8 episode long per "season" a sorry excuse, but Medrano is also absolute dogshit at pacing. 28 minutes per episode and I swear episodes 1-7 felt like nothing happened in them, only the finale was slightly memorable just like the S1 finale. Might as well skip all the episodes and only count the finales as true episodes.
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Also screw the Vees getting a spin-off show, give the casino a spin-off show.
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people are still watching Hazbin Hotel and Helluvah Boss?

shockers, and here I thought people would have realized how atrocious this was going to build up to as soon the first episode hit them. I still bothered checking the rest of the first season and quite a bit of Helluvah Boss and I was absolutely shocked how low of a bar it sets for people to eat that slop up. Yeah, you can definitely say she's good at feelsie Disney crap, except even Star vs. the Forces of Evil doesn't feel as embarrassing to watch, remarkably enough. And kudos for that creator having pulled through that series regardless of any controversy given her background and what she went through. I can't say the same for Vivziepop simply because Vivziepops' dream is that still of a deluded 16-year-old still stuck on her childish behaviors which accomplished doing whatever this was off from simply having gone to a prestiged university which can definitely boost ones' already juiced up ego. The thing I got against her is that she's not meaning to change at all whatsoever and that's why I loathe people like her in the animation business.
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What's next? Alastor loses to fucking Striker using angelic nets and weapons just like he almost killed a fucking Goetia?
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>Sends Alastor to the hotel as a spy of some sort
>Refuses to fix his staff despite needing him with the functional staff for his to do his fucking job she asked for
Why is Rosie retarded?
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Fanmade songs and characterizations are better...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ58wT4X11s&list=RDxQ58wT4X11s&start_radio=1
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>The SERAphim doesn't just smite Vox right then and there
>Oh but the king of hell himself isn't allowed to kill sinners to make "logic" of why he ignores sinners instead of ruling them with an iron fist
>Yet refuses to rule over non sinners.
God Medrano is beyond retarded and A24 are even more retarded for allowing her to write this garbage.
This is the worst represetantion of hell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fGH929p2yI&list=RD3fGH929p2yI&start_radio=1
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This season is basically official anime filler.
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>Vox's last words were "who's ready to be baptized into a new era of entertainment" before dying and taking his entire cult with him

I bet he just rolled with it in hell and most of the senior Voxtek staff are followers that thought it was all his plan.
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Viv fucked up this finale
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Try to refute this (you can't)
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>>151355165
unexplainable plothole
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>>151355379
Lute never does anything wrong. Sinners are in Hell because they deserve it.
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It would've been so fucking funny if Alastor was wearing a specially fancy outfit for the party
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>>151355344
I honestly thought his backstory was fucking stupid. They tell you he's a cult leader except oops, he was actually just White TV Alastor who dies from having a TV fall on his head.

If you're going to have a season where Vox is on screen constantly and any time Vox isn't on screen someone's asking "Where's Vox?" they probably should've made sure the writing was on point. My fucking OC has better writing than this.
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I'm getting Tokyo Ghoul flashbacks. We're being told the conflict is complicated when there is a very clear good guy and bad guy.
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>>151354501
Me like the music
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>>151354032
>namefag
Retard alert, don't you have AI generated threads to make?
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>>151355282
https://youtu.be/Zlmswo0S0e0?list=PLr9_KZU73KZEBLBmDRtC_A8Zo6nqOLWRf&t=1440
>Lucifer: You don't take shit from other demons.
>Also Lucifer: I can't smite demons, lmao.
VIVZIEPOP WHAT THE FUCK
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>>151355507
>Newfag
Do you have any idea who the OP is? Holy shit we are posting in HIS thread. Do you RETARDS have any idea in who's thread we're posting in right now?
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>>151355536
I thought he couldn't smite sinners. He can smite demons if he wants to, right? Couldn't he make satan kick a sinners ass if he wanted to? The powerscaling is retarded. Sinners have way to much power when they are supposed to be suffering eternal damnation.
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>2019
>People thought Alastor was Lucifer in disguise or was sent by Lilith or was Roo herself, roflmao.
Roflmao! Vivziepop you fucking retard the fans can write better than you.
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"Holy Shit!"
The weapon actually working way better than anyone anticipated was a pleasant surprise.
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>>151355552
Take your meds, narcissist.
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>>151355485
He was a cult leader you stupid cunt, every fucking thread today has had the same blind retards not understanding the song.

TV Man murders his way to the top
Once he's on top he kills a bunch of other people to build a network in his image
Followers die in a stupid accident

Or do you think meeting with a few dozen people in the sewers while talking about baptising them is normal hollywood behaviour?
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>Rosie created Alastor
>Rosie reels in Alastor and makes him go off air instead of grabbing more territory because apparently she doesn't care about grabbing territory just like Lucifer doesn't care about ruling hell. -_- that's like Alastor not caring about power and murdering people who piss him off.
Why is Vivziepop so retarded?
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>>151355629
HAHAHAHHAHAHA A NEWFAGGOT UNDERAGE I KNEW IT.
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>>151354032
What songs did they steal from? What is OP talking about?
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>>151355652
>TV Man murders his way to the top
This was so unnecessary. Why did he have to be a murderer? Is that the only cinematic evil viv can think of? Having him legitimately manipulate people through sociopathic charm would've made for a better and more unique character compared to the rest of the murder-happy cast.
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>>151355652
>Or do you think meeting with a few dozen people in the sewers while talking about baptising them is normal hollywood behaviour?
You're right, it's far too tame for normal Hollywood behaviour.
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>>151355713
Technically he did, but the actual manipulation part was barely 10% of his backstory before he quickly died ... just like the show being called Hazbin Hotel yet most of the action doesn't happen at the hotel.
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Lute’s VA is insane, they better give her 5 billion songs in s3
>Storms coming long note in the future song
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sex sex SEX with abel!
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>>151355652
The song is nearly two minutes of him killing people and around five seconds of him starting a cult before he immediately dies.
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>>151355779
>Technically
YES I MAD, WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT SHIT ABOUT "Do not lay a finger on Charlie Morningstar"
WHY THE FUCK DOES ROSIE CARE IF CHARLIE & NIFTY DIES OR NOT?
ALL THAT BUILD UP TO CHARLIE X ALASTOR'S DEAL LEAD TO A TECHNICALITY?
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>>151355787
Season 3 is Alastor and Val.
Season 4 is Lute and Roo (the force connected to Eve’s fall)
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I want a hazbin hotel videogame
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>>151355713
Maybe it’s to show that he’s kinda an essentially a fraud who isn’t legitimately popular or clever because 90% of his success was just him taking the easy way out by murdering everyone. He doesn’t even really have the patience or skill to be a genuine charismatic manipulator.
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Cherry sent him nudes didn't she
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>>151355846
Me too, what would it be like?
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>>151355846
>role-playing game where you make your own sinner's back story(murderer, rapist, ect.) and work your way through therapy sessions and trust fall exercises in hazbin hotel
>you unlock side missions that include joining the the hell vs heaven battles and other turf wars by befriending the staff and increasing friendship levels
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>>151355855
Sex sim
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>>151355855
RPG
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>>151355713
Charisma is a spiritual gift.
Exploiting people's generosity is not the same a commanding attention. Vox maybe knows what people want. But making people want something in the first place and legitimately convert people is another matter.

Then again, biblically accurate angels supposedly don't have free will and are compelled to submit to human freewill.
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>>151355846
We will eventually get one i bet
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>>151355855
>Extermination Day themed DOOM clone
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>>151354501
This is you, you got left behind
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>>151355855
RPG like the south park games where you can form your own Hazbin party with a plot that feels like a big episode
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>>151355467
The issue with HH is that its utterly dogshit in terms of worldbuidling and narrative. The premise falls apart at the most basic scrutiny and all that's left is just excuses and trying to say that the characters are good (they're not) and other shit.
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>>151355847
Vox was a charismatic megalomaniac that took the shortest route to stardom. Every time he replaced someone post-murder he got adoring crowds and approval from his superirors.
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>>151356005
>Marine in the back isn't Lute
fumbled
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>>151356017
You have to turn your brain off otherwise you'll self implode at the really stupid shit like exterminations only happening for like a decade.
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>>151355855
Live service hero shooter.
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>>151356023
Better?
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I really thought they'd end the season with at least vox giving up his dreams of godhood for his friends and getting redeemed, but nope. A whole eight episodes of nothing, really.
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>>151356009
>chalkzone
I knew I wasn't imagining stuff
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>>151356021
Yeah, the more I think about it, the more the murders were just a narcissistic impulse that would have fucked him over eventually if he didn’t die first, than something that actually helped him
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>>151356035
I can't do that since it would require me to find some modicum of enjoyment/entertainment in it in the first place which would facilitate me treating it as the media equivalent of junk food. But I just can't. They're all just so fucking awful and the world is utter ass. Its like making a cartoon about the worst people you know and never having them be actually challenged. It just turns into an endurance test to see how much you can take before you decide to just turn it off and watch/do something else. But above all, its boring.
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>>151356060
based
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war is coming
>war doesn't come
redemption is achievable
>no one gets redeemed
vaggie is choosing a new name
>doesn't change her name (obviously)
alastor wants to break his deal
>breaks it, no idea what it even entailed, still at the hotel in the end anyway
lilith teased at the end of season 1
>leads to nothing, same exact tease at the end of season 2

bravo vivzney
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>>151356081
>much you can take before you decide to just turn it off
The stolen songs are the high point and the designs come second, even if the creator seems to really fetishize birds.
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>>151356105
I have heard better songs
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>>151356080
It was the 50's/60's dna tests weren't even a thing back then and by his aging we saw that he spent years between kills since they were just a means to an end rather than a compulsion like with Alastor.
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>>151354032
I want to see more Emily bondage
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Remember, it isn't over for Vox.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hfc7InvBevk&t=1934s
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>>151355849
She was respectful of his victorian modesty and sent him a picture of her ankles
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>>151356133
My rule of thumb from watching helluva boss is the more creative control viv gets the more shitty the show gets so I wouldn't get too excited.
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>>151355713
I'm not sure vox is patient enough to manipulate others long term in the way alastor can. He's all flash no substance.
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I think I understand the overall story.
>Adam is the first antagonist of the series. He is the sacrifice for sin, removing Roo’s corruption from redeeming sinners.
>This provokes Roo into destroying heaven and hell, and preventing redemption.
>Roo’s selected companions are Vox, Alastor, Lute, and herself, Eve.
So when Vox was given far greater strength and provoked by Alastor, it was ultimately Roo fully possessing him. And he only loses a great portion of his corruption by force.
Alastor would need to be pinned down in season 3.
Lute would be the only one that removes its presence from herself in season 4. And Viv is willing to risk the show ending on this arc instead of Eve.
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>>151356175
Can't wait for Season 3+4 to have only 8 episodes again.
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I was promised a storm and that my hands would get wet
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I enjoyed it, I liked it a lot. All I wish is that the fucking dialogue stopped being so reddit edgy. Stop with the fucking cuss words, for God's sake. You can write well without the sentence enhancers.
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>>151356208
Why do you think this is vivs fault
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>>151356133
>Vox stays an important character all through to the end
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>>151354032

Wait, what has Alastor found to entertain him? Who is in white there?
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Someone draw Voxlie NTR please
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>>151356282
Lucy
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Is it because of Lute’s popularity and favoritism within the staff that they’ve changed the Adam and Eve plot to risk the series to end on Lute if they don’t get renewed.
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>>151354032
I actually liked it more than the first season. But I feel like Vox really should have died, either getting betrayed by the other Vees, or finished off by Lute after trying to escape.

In general I'm pissy that waiting for more Lute all season ended with her getting scolded and sent home.
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>>151356282
I genuinely don't think alastor has any coherent motivation we can make out.
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>>151356302
Alastor recently found out Lucifer can't attack sinners, he's absolutely going to try something with that
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Alastor is such a mary sue, I'm so tired of him.
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>>151354050
Strongest Sinner title just means AP. Alastor was getting his shit rocked for most that fight, he only wins because he uses his powers creatively (like bridge breaking, using himself as a slingshot, using distractions) while Vox mostly tried to overpower Alastor head-on (oh wow teleports in front of you for the 4th time that totally won't get predictable), which worked a lot of the time but we know Alastor is much more skilled, and he's survived against way stronger opponents (only getting hit once in the entire Adam fight)
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>>151356318
Keyword is on coherent. It reminds me of the pilot when he said he just fucks around because he's bored, but whatever they were building up since he fought adam seems to be going nowhere.
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It's already been said, but Vox's backstory was disappointing and has him get to the top without help, undermining his whole arc. It's not even that hard a fix:
>vincent uses the commie hunt to con his way to the top, exploiting public opinion
>eventually that fails so he just kills the guy
>but he pushes him into a car or something else that means he still needed someone else to do it
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so why the fuck did alastor's plan work
why does "charlie says vox is the strongest" = "rosie loses control over alastor but he still keeps all his power"?
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>>151356343
From the way the characters were glazing Alastor you'd think he'd fight like Alucard where he just slowly overwhelm his opponents with his power, but no he fights like a underdog anime protag
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>>151356371
What arc? He just did a thing and lost. He didn't learn anything and the other two forgave him for no reason.
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I like the redesigns this show spawns
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>>151356133
I think my biggest surprise is that they bothered to keep Vox alive. He didn't have enough moral nuance for me to want to see him seek redemption, and he was defeated so completely that I can't imagine him returning as a threat.

Felt like the perfect payoff to his character to either go down with the bomb he lit, or get axed off after picking another fight and fully realizing that all of his allies had abandoned him.
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>>151356381
Alastor knows how Vox’s powers work and when Charlie calls Vox the strongest sinner, it empowers him to a more Roo-like form.
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>>151356381
>why does "charlie says vox is the strongest" = "rosie loses control over alastor but he still keeps all his power"?
Isn't it because Rosie failed to uphold her end of the deal?
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>>151356295
I'm getting the feeling that they don't know what to do with Lute. This entire season was all about how exterminations are bad and we're just not going to do them anymore. Plus they established that she's insane now and everyone knows she's insane. Lute's incapable of being an antagonist because she'll never be given a speck of power again.
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>>151356406
Can anyone be bothered to rewatch it and see if she promised to make alastor be known as the strongest sinner in hell?
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>>151356403
Bad people love to save their bad people.
Also, season 3 is when Alastor and Val are more relevant and their stunts makes heaven consider doing war again.
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>>151356403
>Redemption
The Vee's are hedonistic assholes loyal to eachother.
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>>151356371
All of the backstories people theorized about made way more sense than "le twisted fucking cyclepath who somehow managed to kill all the people he ever worked with and then he died by bad cable management"
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https://x.com/sad_machineee/status/1990945945442300336

Opinion on this?
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>>151356421
Vox wasn't loyal to them.
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>>151356406
a) why does charlie saying "vox is the strongest" make alastor definitely no longer the strongest
b) when was it established that the deal meant alastor would be the strongest in perpeuity
c) why does the deal getting broken mean alastor keeps everything he got from it
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>>151356437
He got too big for his briches and had to be knocked down again. That was the whole thing with Val and Vel during the ensemble.
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>>151356440
> a) why does charlie saying "vox is the strongest" make alastor definitely no longer the strongest
She changed the image of Vox into a much powerful form. And when Vox is defeated, his ratings plundered to the ground.
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>>151356418
>>151356406
>>151356381

It's as simple as sinner hell power level comes from people knowing you're strong / your influence. Not just direct soul deals though they must play a part too.
As well as Lilith bloodline having magical siren song powers.

>Charlie, acting monarch in that moment, says it and it makes Hell believe it to be true, thus making it true that he's the strongest (he already had a ton of support, and this pushed it to the last bit he needed)

He lost his power due to him being suddenly hated and losing all approval.
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>>151356406
Where was it implied that the deal was continuous. Rosie should have went:
"I did make you the strongest sinner it's not my fault that you slacked off and let other people overtake you"

It shouldn't be Rosie's fault that Alastor lost his strongest title due to the latter's actions. It honestly devalues these soul contracts/devils deals.
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>>151356434
https://youtu.be/xy1xbj5TjWw
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>>151356447
I understand that they like him, but vox himself really didn't get a single redeeming feature to justify it.
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>>151356463
The strongest sinner of Hell is supposed to be the title for Alastor to always have and he isn’t inactive at all in trying to preserve it.
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>>151356440
a. because her word is magic like liliths and affects sinners
b. influence and opinion directly causes you to be more powerful too
c. retarded viv writing
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>>151355379
Backed down to Abel
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>>151356126
Powerscalers in shambles
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It's simple.

Rosie = Lilith

She has power over so many sinners that she can instantly grant that influence to Alastor thus making him powerful
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This was definitely a filler season before the Lilith/Lute storyline. It had that distinct feeling.
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>>151356219
The storm will come next season. Trust the plan.
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>>151356485
If that's the case Rosie is just retarded for accepting that deal then
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>>151356017
>>151356081
>>151356105
I would expect a twist that if Adam did kill good sinners in the past, they would’ve been brought back already right after Adam died, just like Pentious. So Charlie’s and Emily’s efforts to redeem sinners will still matter and Sera and Lute didn’t actually do anything wrong.
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>>151356295
>>151356416
Viv confirmed in her most recent interview that Lute will be the main antagonist of S3. The season's color scheme is even yellow, her theme color, similar to how S1 was red for Adam and S2 was blue for Vox.
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>>151356292

I still hope for Sinner Adam, partly for more assertive Abel to defy his own father.
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We're never going to focus on the Hotel are we?
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>>151356480

All three of them are monsters.
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>>151356536
There was a throwaway line about eternal death which is horrifying but probably means not gonna happen.
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MEET POTENTIAL WOMAN
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>>151356528
I thought it was going to be Val
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>>151356539

Well, Vaggie runs the hotel now so she’ll intensify their efforts.
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>>151356564
It's fun to see her cucked though
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Look at all of the Lutedafs coping, lol
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>>151356528

Be ironic if she fell from Heaven in the end…,to find Sinner Adam.
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>>151356587
My fucking dick, dude
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>>151356562

Lute is supposed to be Season 3 villain, so she could meet Sinner Adam in the season finale.
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I wonder who voiced the Rooster fellow.
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>>151356536
The only way to escape death in Hazbin is by being good. And when Adam comes back, I expect him to keep Abel in charge and retire Lute.
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>>151354032
The whole ending was cringe MLP shit but this was the most contrived and goofy moment by far

Literally everyone would have died if Vox hadn’t arbitrarily touched Charlie for no reason


I’m supposed to believe he had a brilliant plan depending upon this one random million of a chance happening?
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>>151356594

The passionate reunion sex would rock Hell.
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>>151356585
*Lutefags
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>>151356528
Season 3’s colorscheme is green and purple.
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>>151356618
Viv is a midwit why are you surprised?
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>>151356651
How can a midwit succeed so hard?
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>>151356611

I don’t think Adam will ever get out of Hell, as long as Lute is there with him.

To paraphrase a song, “If they go down, then they go down together.”
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We are Charlie Kiiiiiiiirk
we carry the flame
We’ll fight for the Gospel
we’ll honor his name
We are Charlie Kiiiiiiiirk
his courage our own
Together unbroken
we’ll make Heaven known
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>>151356397
This is cool
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>>151356671
because everyone else is a retard
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>>151356651
It just felt like the ending was rushed and stupid for no reason

The good guys only won because Vox became sub-glacial IQ for thirty seconds randomly. What was Alastor’s strategy if he just didn’t touch Charlie? Sit there and die?
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>>151356528
>Viv confirmed in her most recent interview that Lute will be the main antagonist of S3. The season's color scheme is even yellow, her theme color, similar to how S1 was red for Adam and S2 was blue for Vox.
Viv said it will be season 3 or 4. Season 3's colors are green and purple.
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>>151356671

Because her show speaks to our inner cringe who drew silly designs in elementary school.
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>>151356680
Based and Voxpilled
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>>151356618
The entire Alastor plot thread this season was super fucking dumb unsatisfying but I'm sure the fans will love it just on account of how it gives them so much fodder for shipping and theorizing and fancanon and whatever.
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>>151356440
Because he's not the one who broke the seal?
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>>151356528
>Lute will be the main antagonist of S3
I figured, but I still wish they had given her a stronger final note to end the season on than just having her immediately deflating at having fucking Abel of all people calling her a bitch.

She doesn't get a proper on-screen fight, she doesn't get to finish off Vox to establish a new threat, they don't tap into any sympathetic element of her going insane. She's just sent home without supper.
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>>151356618
>I’m supposed to believe he had a brilliant plan depending upon this one random million of a chance happening?
Did you miss the part where Alastor said he hates how gropey Vox is? He knew the incel wouldn't be able to help himself.
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Carmilla sex
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>>151356707
>She doesn't get a proper on-screen fight, she doesn't get to finish off Vox to establish a new threat, they don't tap into any sympathetic element of her going insane. She's just sent home without supper.
Why are you surprised Viv underwrote a female character?
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>>151356717
YES
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>>151356716
At no point is Vox ever shown to be gropey with anyone but Alastor himself
He invented that character trait on the spot
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>>151356528
>I probably can't say definitively which season we’ll get a payoff, but I will say it's within those two. The thing about Lute that I think is so interesting is, she's unraveling. I think it's really important that we set up her motivation and her anger and her reaction to the death of Adam in season 1 — I think it was really important to plant that flag, about her anger and her mental health deteriorating. I think we need that marker, so as the show goes on, it can lead to that culmination for her.

>It always made sense that she probably won't have her authentic conclusion until later in the show. She’s the character with the most pent-up, the most built-up emotions, in terms of how she's treated, and her just witnessing all the other narratives between Heaven and Hell. Clearly she's the character that is the most black-and-white of all our characters, in terms of how she views the world. So seeing all this change and development, and all that's going to happen over the course of the show is impacting her. And that's something I felt very strongly that we need to build to.

Sounds more like season 4 but I can picture her having a bigger role in season 3 than she did season 2. It sounds like Alastor will have more of an antagonistic rol in season 3:

>And I'm also excited for people to see a character we've built up — I won't say who, just to be extra-safe, but I think people will know by the end of this season who I'm talking about. A character who's been built up as sort of a friendly face, or an anti-hero, a character who is on the right side for the first two seasons, getting to step into a villain role, and getting to see the nuance and the real motivation behind a very trickstery, devious character who has his own agenda that's much more sinister in season 3. Getting to see that arc play out, and getting to see that dynamic, I’m personally very excited for that aspect of the story.
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>>151354501
I just think Rosie and lute are hot and I want to see more of them
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>>151356737
Because Alastor and the other Vees are the only people is shown hanging with 95% of the time. Dude doesn't have many friends.
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>>151356707
Viv thinks a serial rapist/pimp/abuser is more sympathetic than a clearly unwell woman driven mad by grief

Female solidarity?
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>>151356673
Adam has let of Eve and his bravest sson when they went to hell and stayed there.
And Lute is reflective of Lilith and Eve, women who wanted more power but at a cost.
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>>151356748
So you want more Lute and Rosie?
Gotcha.
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>>151356753
Viv can't stop being accidentally based
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>>151356716
>>151356737
I wouldn't call it gropey but I can agree that Vox can have trouble keeping his hands to himself. When he forced Velvette to apologize to Carmilla he put his hand on her head and he's just kind of grabby with Val.
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>>151356686
>Oh Vox. They tell me you swing both ways but that's just a cowards way of denying you're a pansy. Why I bet you can't even touch the hand of this fine young lady without breaking out in hives.
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>>151356707
>She doesn't get a proper on-screen fight, she doesn't get to finish off Vox to establish a new threat, they don't tap into any sympathetic element of her going insane. She's just sent home without supper.
In the youtube video Viv kind of implied that everyone overlooking and ignoring Lute is intentional. But there's also no way she could've beaten Vox.
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>>151356397
Man I wish vox look like that
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>>151356775
Betting the entirety of hell on Vox touching Charlie seems like an incredibly retarded strategy.

The whole plan would also have been unwound if he had touched her prior to becoming the strongest sinner and unlocking Alastor’s power. Way too many variables for the plan to be sensible.
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>>151356800
>The whole plan would also have been unwound if he had touched her prior to becoming the strongest sinner and unlocking Alastor’s power
Al could have easily just kept himself tied to the chair and pretended to still under the deal
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>>151356800
Alastor can keep himself locked in the chair if he wanted to.
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Are Rosie and Carmella the hottest?
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>>151356790
>But there's also no way she could've beaten Vox.
Wouldn't have been hard after he was just a head
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>>151356824
Depends. I'll have to threeway with them to make a quantified judgement.
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>>151356808
>Al could have easily just kept himself tied to the chair and pretended to still under the deal

Going by what happened to Rosie I assume Vox would have felt the deal break at that point
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>>151356790
Well yeah. It makes it easier for Roo to show up.
And Roo is meant to appear in season 4 when Lute is at her lowest point.
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>>151356837
Vox telling Al to get back in the chair says he probably wouldn't have sensed it, either due to not paying attention or just not being as powerful as Rosie
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>>151355467
>Lute never does anything wrong
She failed to finish the job.
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>>151356585
HEAR MY COPE!
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>>151356833
OwO
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>>151356832
Well yeah but Val and Velvette weren't going to let her get that close, not to mention that Lute's ultimate target is Vaggie.
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>>151356879
I don’t really understand what the point of including a banger like Gravity was if you weren’t gonna give her a chance to rampage after all the buildup. Just to have another cool song?
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>>151356898
Lute is tied to the Adam X Lute shit the crew loves, and Vivziepop’s Roo obsession.
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>>151356898
Lute will destroy Charlie in two more weeks
Trust the plan
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>>151356898
Foreshadowing
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>>151356686
Goad vox into attaching one of Charlie's friends, Charlie jumps in front to be heroic and shit, bam

Not sure she'd do that for al lol, she has really gone off him.
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>>151356914
>>151356912

Just include it in the season where she’s the main villain. I like Lute too but Idr see how she offered much to the narrative this time.
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I was worried Emily was going to be a Lisa Simpson but she turned out surprisingly likable and cute
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>>151356937
She made my peepee hard
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>>151356939
Emily will be Alastor’s prison sentence.
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S2 gets a 6/10

Wondering how bad Helluva Boss S3 is gonna beef it.
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>Some random angel comes out of nowhere and steals your oneitis, becoming his eternal companion to rule Hell over with
I can only imagine what his reaction would be if the leaks turned out to be true the cuckposting would go crazy
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>>151356896
Vox was the one declaring war and tearing down the gates of Heaven. I think it would have been fitting for both characters for Vox to have been left helpless after all of his threats and bluster just for Lute finish him off without much ceremony.
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>>151356939
I think the ending should have been Emily sacrificing herself to stop the cannon with her life force or something, as opposed to the power of friendship spirit bomb k pop demon hunters EVERYONE USES THEIR RAINBOW BEAM singing meme.
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>>151356949
We'll see.
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>>151356949
I wonder how done Helluva Boss Season 3 is.
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>>151356957
Viv just wanted to prove to Disney that she could do it better than Wish
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So we all agree Lucifer is the worst character right? Literally a retarded Redditor who loses everything he does
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>>151356947
Oh no, how awful. Do you think she's into making him do lovey dovey sex?
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>>151356979
You wouldn't say that to his face.
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Alastor still hasn’t won a single fight past the pilot. He was losing to the Shark lmao
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>>151356898
I really think Viv couldn't resist putting it in but I can see it being an advantage especially now that we know she considers Lute to be a sleeper villain. Now the viewers know that Lute's a ticking time bomb, and every time we see something not turn out the way she wanted you can almost hear the ticking getting faster. Personally I was pretty indifferent to Lute but now I'm interested because she, in more ways than one, is utterly alone, and it's interesting to see how that impacts her.
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Um... Lambros? Why did she like angelicsmile art?
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>>151356585
I'm not coping I'm pissed
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I understand Viv's idea to let Lute "sit down and simmer as a Villain" but you don't do this for shows that take over 2 years to get a new season with only 8 episodes
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Ok helluva boss is better than this.
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>>151357012
>
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>>151357012
>twitter age verification hiding all thie artists stuff
It's not fun this new world.
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>>151357016
Yeah but that's just the shit state of the industry right now.
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>>151357012
AM I
AM I

SUPPOSED TO DO SOMETHING
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>>151357016
At least Seasons 3 and 4 were in development before Season 2’s release.
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>>151357012
I’m still holding out for Fallen Emily
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>>151357012
wtf is this garbage lol
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Vox deciding to just go nuclear and kill everyone just to get Alastor was cool.
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>>151357044
>Lute rejects corruption and regrets ever letting it consume her
>Emily embraces it and becomes Alastor’s worst nightmare
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>>151357016
Ideally I think Gravity should have taken place right before the final episode, then have Lute murder a wounded Vox right when Charlie is finally getting through to him after he’s lost
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Job shit steals all my time, I want to watch s2 already but I am also afraid because I cannot imagine that it will work without ADAM
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>>151357012
>After the dust settles we see Alastor welcome the cast down Emily as his Queen of a now empty Hell, because Charlie's sacrifice has redeemed everyone else and they are now with her happy and singing in Heaven.

https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/151229510/#151236003

DON'T FORGET
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>>151357016
I don't. She gets one of the best songs in the show where she's vowing to murder every demon and defying Sera, just to sit by the wayside and do nothing when starting a war was her best opportunity to go berserk
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>>151357064
That'd be lame
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>season 3 is gold and purple according to Viv
>"Hahahaha no one will get it"
Is Rose and Lilith duh or just Lucifer and Lilith
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>>151356939
Emily's genuinely endearing because she's so well-meaning but completely out of her depth with no frame of reference for half of the horrendous shit she's suddenly having to come in contact with. She's Charlie but with a much clearer reason for her naivete.

Her usual tasks include taking new residents out for ice cream and showing them where the petting zoo is. Now she's the only one in Heaven with the full gumption to want to make right for genocide, and her first thought is to start making gift baskets.
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Reminder all this filler nonsense is literally because Viv admitted they just wanted to give Vox his own Season

Season 3 was supposed to be Season 2
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>>151357092
So Lucifer will be the bad guy?
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>Lute’s anger is stayed by the craven son of her beloved boss invoking his memory

Ahhhh be still my beating heart
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Watching the first episode of the season in italian now, and I really like the Vees singing.
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Overheard verbal discussions close to Viv as best I can remember and paraphrasing the details:

In the later series Alastor meets Emily 'coincidentally' in the hotel when she portals in. After he heard about her doing it before, he somehow figures out when she will again and makes sure Charlie won't be there. He offers to 'take a message' but charms Emily and starts subtly influencing her. She becomes enamoured with Alastor over time and eventually is willingly doing his bidding. By the end she has basically become evil, but is still naive so doesn't realise it, thinking Alastor wants to unite Heaven and Hell to make shit better, like the crap she was so pissy about in season 1.

Final climactic scenes are a simultaneous Hell-wide turf war and plan to destroy Heaven entirely initiated by Alastor. He has spent the series moving all his chess pieces into place for the final merciless attack using Emily as an insider to drop Heaven's defences.

He wins easily in Hell, having killed or undermined many overlords already, finally achieving his dream of becoming absolute ruler there. We find out he planned that all along ever since he was human, having some prior insight into the workings of Hell, (when he made a deal with Rosie he knew exactly who he was talking to).

Now having access to the full power of Hell he attacks Heaven. Charlie who sorta trusted Alastor to this point realises she dun goof'd. Her father no longer there to protect or save her, she basically 'grows up' in that moment having to make a choice between her dream and saving Heaven.

She attacks Alastor in her now uber-powerful demon form depowering him back to his previous level, but in a final contingent act of treachery he manages to kill Charlie.

After the dust settles we see Alastor welcome the cast down Emily as his Queen of a now empty Hell, because Charlie's sacrifice has redeemed everyone else and they are now with her happy and singing in Heaven.
>yfw Charlie is basically 'Hell Jesus'
ffs Viv.
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>>151357095
Wasted two years for this, BTW.
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>>151357111
No, he is nice.
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>>151356979
I actually like their reason for why he can't just be an instant-win button against sinners. He really didn't get to do anything beyond being Vox's battery though.
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>>151357123
I KNVVL
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>>151357123
I hope Alastor kills Carmilla.
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>>151357080
Lute never defied Sera, she hasn't been pushed that far yet. The whole point is that she already has all this anger building up inside of her that everyone is just ignoring until it's going to be too late.
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I want to FUCK Abel
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>>151357147
We know Cain
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>>151357147
That's adorable.
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>>151357092
>>151357111
It's purple and green. Lilith and Alastor. Season 4 is gold/yellow.
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>>151357123
he knvvw
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>>151357123
>t. same guy who was talking about some bullshit in last two episodes that never happened
*yawn*
Not gonna read all of that crap at this point
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>>151356397
Pic-related is my favorite Alastor interpretation ever.
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let's all run a train on vivziepop
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>>151357123
Why wouldn't this work?
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>>151357173
Oh fun.
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>>151357123
>Emily is Alastor's Queen
I don't believe you because Alastor doesn't like to making fuck
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>>151357064
That's kind of what I was expecting to be set up. Having Lute pull a Niffty and stab him in the back the moment Vox finally lets his guard down and tries to retreat or surrender.
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>when emily hands pentious his note from cherri her wing is healed and not gold anymore
shoddy animation
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>Gravity is released before Season 2
>Everyone loves it, hyped for Lute's story
>Crazy theories about Lute and Adam and how she'll confront the hotel crew or enact her revenge
>Season 2! Get ready for the STORM COMING!
>Shows up in the background a few times
>Argues with Vaggie for 5 seconds

...that's it?
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>>151357123
I just realized your picture is AI and I think your "leak" is too.
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>>151357005
Lol this, what a fucking loser.
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>>151357188
They should have just let her lose the wing entirely and not replace it. Would have been a better sillouhete
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>>151357188
LITERALLY UNWATCHABLE
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>>151357188
she has been healed mashallah
>>151357208
i don't think she could fly without all six wings
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>>151357165
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/151229510/#151236003

sorry buddy but its true! keep coping, radiojoy is canon he got it right
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>>151356397
I like the idea of making these characters actually look freaky and hellish. I'm getting kind of tired of all these Disney vibes and how Hell is just treated like LA
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>>151357111
Nah. He will be Stolas 2.0 and Lilith will be Stella 2.0
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>>151357141
THIS.
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>If I live another day here, I'ma BLOW OFF MY HEAD
>Now I get why everybody is trauma dumping
>I think I'ma END IT if I don't find something to-
>....?
>A message from Alastor?
>On some very short notice?
>He is asking if I want to be his wonderful EVIL PRINCESS WIFE
>I'm losing my shit, dude
>Wonder if he'll think that it's rude...
>...to ask if he sleeps nude?
>Not that I'm into that sort of thing!!
>I totally said yes
>My life is now the FUCKING BEST
>Every day, I get to see that CUTE EROTIC FLAT DEER DUMPY
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>>151357221
>>151357169
>DUDE

>ANALOG HORRORRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS!!!!! ITS LE.. SPOOKY!!!!!!!

Yawn. I prefer fuckable people and so do women
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>>151357196
Imagine if Lute was supposed to do shit this season but since it leaked Viv pushed everything to season 3 just to piss everyone
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>>151357123
>In the later series Alastor meets Emily 'coincidentally' in the hotel when she portals in. After he heard about her doing it before, he somehow figures out when she will again and makes sure Charlie won't be there. He offers to 'take a message' but charms Emily and starts subtly influencing her.
Do these sentences not make any sense to anyone else? It's like they're trying to sound like they're saying a lot while saying nothing at all. Did fucking chatgpt write this??
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>>151357229
Lol.
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>>151357210
EXACTLY THANK YOU
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>>151357165
I mean it’s obviously fake but Emily slowly falling over time because she’s too naive and willing to compromise continuously to impress the demons would be an interesting take on it ig

Better than her just having one bad day and snapping joker style anyways

Alastor is also the ultimate bullshitter so if anyone could do it…
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>>151356397
Indeed
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>spamming his ship in /trash/ and how here
Real 100% troonshipper on copium behaviour
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>>151357242
That's not how production works
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>>151357254
>>151357236
>DUDE

>ANALOG HORRORRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS!!!!! ITS LE.. SPOOKY!!!!!!!

Yawn. I prefer fuckable people and so do women
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>>151357236
Chill out
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I want to fuck Patrick Stump.
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>>151357221
>>151356397
I feel like Hazbin would've look like this if it was made for a different type of audience, a more edgy in a real edgy way that enjoys controversial jokes and less Tumblr people
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>>151357257
Yes, it is
They moved Season 2 to Season 3, Viv said it herself. Season 2 was created out of nowhere
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>>151357229
>Stolas 2.0
thats valentino
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>"ALL OUT GUESTS ARE FAMILY"
>Doesn't recognize Rooster, one of the only 2 new people who stayed
Charlie really was bad at her job, no wonder she gave up the job to her more competent girlfriend.
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>>151357282
Charlie lost

Only plot armor saved her
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>>151357282
Oof.
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>>151357123
>source: trust me bro my uncle works for Spindlehorse

I know Vivziepop isn't a great writer, but jesus. To finally put this to rest: this is literally just made up by a /co/ user on this mongolian basketweaving forum. Another user on Reddit posted something similar a few weeks back speculating "wouldn't it be cool if-" and had a similar story, this is just a bad A03 fanfic.
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>>151357274
No, they weren't halfway through the real season 2 before the leaks and then they decided to rework it into a Vox season. That would mean rewrites and rerecordings, new songs. It'd be a scheduling nightmare and be a money sink. You people never think logically, you just want to be mad.
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can someone tell me again why pentious couldn't go back to hell through any of the 1000 portals that Emily did?

Like, would he literally blow up or something? If that happens so easy, will sinners also blow up by going to heaven? How will they conquer heaven if they would blow up?
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>>151357320
>can someone tell me again why pentious couldn't go back to hell through any of the 1000 portals that Emily did?
don't question my QVEEN's writing, chud
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>>151357244
Yeah, it's bs. The original person who wrote this didn't mention any of the other characters at all either and their entire source was "I just overheard from friends-" and when they were grilled about it they said "Oh my friends (not specified how they know them) felt comfortable talking about this totally random detailed plot about a show they think I don't watch because I told them I don't watch cartoons" kek
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>>151357071
That this of all the "leaks" actually had even an ounce of substance is its own kind of inpressive.
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>>151357320
They wouldn’t know if it will work.
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>>151357297
Not trying to defend the concept but it’s pretty obvious that nothing Viv comes up with is gonna be any better

She couldn’t even think of a way to have the Vees lose that wasn’t totally contrived
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>>151357320
>Like, would he literally blow up or something? If that happens so easy, will sinners also blow up by going to heaven? How will they conquer heaven if they would blow up?
We literally don't know we just know that Sinners and Winners can't leave their respective residencies.
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>>151357221
Your post reminded me of a reverse concept I had in my head when the pilot first came out- where their sinner forms looking so cartoonish and ridiculous was a reflection of being in hell for so long that they're twisted/flanderized with their worse aspects being indulged, but their human selves would be depicted in a significantly more realistic and grounded manner for contrast.
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>>151357345
>we just know that Sinners and Winners can't leave their respective residencies.

They clearly can unless Vox’s entire plan was just to blow Heaven up. He wanted to invade with his troops. The ban is just arbitrary
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>viv says in an interview that was lilith

Game over, risue=lilith bros
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>>151357373
Who was Lilith?
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>>151357369
He said they had 24 hours to surrender Heaven to him so I assume his next plan would be to rewrite the rules so he can go up there.
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>>151356478
He would be one of the easier one to redeem at least
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>>151357373
>risue
Who the FUCK is Risue
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>>151357196
Lute is such a bitch character. How are any viewers supposed to take her seriously as an antagonist moving forward after that embarrassment with Abel?
Her story should end with Val making her his mindbroken slut.
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>>151357395
Rewrite them how? lol

Sera doesn’t control that.
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>>151357438
>Sera doesn’t control that.
I mean, she might
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>>151357448
Speaker outranks her so idk
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>>151357309
They did it BEFORE they made the seasons
Youve never worked in any of this and it shows
They make all the scripts beforehand
Sort the entire plot long long before
So yes, this happened before even season 1 retard
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>>151357454
I'm not sure what the deal with the speaker showing up for two minutes total was.
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>>151356391
>First fight is against an archangel. Tier below the Seven deadly sins
No shit he was gonna lose, but he still held out
>Second fight was with a bass boosted Vox and he was still crippled because his staff was broken, couldn't even enter his full demon form
And he still won it through pure skill. It's like you forgot he owned most overlords when he arrived
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>>151357475
The fact he has never won a fight on screen past the pilot makes him look retarded tho anon

Even Niftie has more kills
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>>151357465
??? Your argument was that when Gravity leaked (which was what, in like September last year?) Viv decided to change season 2 to a Vox season to... spite people who were excited over the song. That doesn't make any sense.
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Vox has a great singing voice

Shame half Viv’s songs are just talking and not singing
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I wonder if Alastor will mindbreak Sera by corrupting Emily in season 3.
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>>151357513
Whatever.
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>>151357522
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who should deal the killing blow on lute?
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>>151357545
Cool art.
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>the big "reveal" was that Alastor literally meant Vox couldn't physically touch Charlie, not just not harm her
>that's meant to be a twist
>the entire fanbase has been operating under the assumption that that's exactly what the deal meant this whole time
swing and a miss on that one for sure
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>>151357522
Ask this to chat gpt again lol
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Remember when this show was about a fucking Hotel? What happened? It’s barely relevant at all.
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>>151357555
Abel
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>Lucifer is just going to let the Vees and the other Overlords get away with the disrespect and betrayal
what a fucking bitch
He should be calling up Satan to come smack some bitches around for him, make it so Pentagram City is going to need a whole new batch of Overlords.
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>>151357320
I do think it's weird they couldn't have given one line as to why they couldn't just put a portal on stage instead of a broadcast,
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>>151357574
season 3 will be hotel time
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>>151357572
Joke doesn’t work because those are Terminators not Exterminators you idiot
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>>151357574
uhh the whole season was about people not believing the Hotel actually works and the main plot resolution was everyone realizing that it does
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I'm not ruling out Sera dying, she comes across as extremely frail for some reason
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>>151357574
It was only ever about the hotel in the pilot.
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So if deals can be broken why does Lucifer care about killing sinners? Does he actually think Sera is gonna come down there and fight him over it?

I was under the impression you literally COULD NEVER break them?
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>>151357522
Good this show likes NTR
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>>151357564
You mean you’ve used Chat GPT to ask this question?
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>>151357581
Literally. Emily can just pop in anytime and go "HEY LOOK GUYS IT WORKED!" and they just...didn't because fuck you I guess?
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>>151357610
>So if deals can be broken why does Lucifer care about killing sinners? Does he actually think Sera is gonna come down there and fight him over it?
First of all, it's not a deal, it's his punishment.
>I was under the impression you literally COULD NEVER break them?
Don't know why you'd think that when we got the thing in season 1 about how Charlie couldn't break Angel's with Val.
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>>151357610
I don't think its something like "he promised never to hurt sinners" deal, its more like a hard locked restriction that he couldn't break at all even if he tried.
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I want a cute fem Fizz bot
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>>151357641
>punishment

From who?

God? He doesn’t seem very interested in Heaven gettting nuked by a Devil Cannon
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>>151357574
I 'member. Remember when Helluva Boss was a wacky workplace comedy about Imps working as assassins for hire?
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>>151354032
Hey was the fat fucking gator with neon hair just the self insert of Viv?
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>>151357659
>From who?
Implied to be from the other seraphim but it could've been from the Speaker too. We'll probably find out at some point.
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>>151357660
Heh

Someone post it
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>>151357665
I know you're making a fat joke here but Viv's self-insert is Charlie. Like it's glaringly obvious. Why would you think Viv's self-insert is a 90s rave lizard with pink and green hair?
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>>151357659
Most likely God yeah, or the Speaker, or these guys.
Still wondering where are these other Seraphim Elders, you'd think they would be concerned about Hell firing a laser at Heaven.
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>>151357692
I thought they called her Viv at one point. And then she appears in random places like when Charlie was having imagination of them dancing around or something.
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I will say that it’s quite incredible that a former mortal came closer to conquering Heaven and gaining ultimate revenge than the entire court of Demon Lords

All it took was one man with a vision and he only failed due to funny plot armor bs lol

Hell is a joke
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So what’s the plan with Helluvaverse?
Helluva boss season 3 (first half) in 2026 (after shorts), and Hazbin Hotel Season 3 in late 2026. The rest of HB season 3 in early 2027 and season 4 in late 2027.
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Hot pig fucking action
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>>151357692
>Viv's self-insert is Charlie
>Charlie was completely useless and does nothing but fuck up this whole season
What does that say about viv's self-esteem?
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Did Hazbin Hotel season 2 referenced Charlie Kirk in any of the songs? I swear I heard that name being uttered at least once.
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>Lucifer is a literal CLOWN
>loses constantly and failed at everything he’s ever done

>Lilith will show up and be the strongest character in the show and super competent

Men are WEAK….
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Eve? A billion times stronger than adam
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>>151357692
>Charlie is Viv self insert
>Alastor is her "baby", one of her oldest oc and probably made him asexual because she refuses to share him with anyone else
>Charlastor got nuked when her team suggested making Chaggie canon and she caved in
>Enter Emily, pretty much Charlie 2.0
>Emily saves Alastor's life
Wait a minute...
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>>151357763
Nah I suspect they're setting up Lilith to be the final baddie. That's why she's never seen but always felt. Hell, if anything right now Lilith is a terrible parent and literally leaves her daughter to die numerous times where she is supposed to be under the knowledge of everything.
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>>151357706
I'm almost positive people found some of these guys in the crowds in season 1.
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>>151357763
Now we just need Lilith and Eve fucking each other while they step on Lucifer's wiener.
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>>151357777
Those digits don't lie
I'm still hoping Eve is Roo
simply cause Roo is hot as fuck and I want Eve to be the hottest baddest bitch around, I can understand why Adam didn't bang Lute or any of his other bitches cause he's still hung up on his turbo edgy hotwife
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>>151357777
Well yeah…
That will be the source of Lute’s power in season 4 till she stops and just breaks down from realization.
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It really looked like Emily was getting ready to sacrifice herself but LMAO what if she did? Wouldn't she just respawn in heaven?
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>>151357801
Viv inventing a super oc custom donut steel not!demiurge as the final boss because she’s Viv is on brand ig
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>>151357817
>Wouldn't she just respawn in heaven?
No. Otherwise, Lute wouldn’t be so broken and messed up.
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>>151357754
>I hate: sluts, pervs, losers, anoying posers
Hilarious considering most of her characters
>I also want to right and publish a comic book..or make my own animated show!
>I have typoz..live with it!

There's something about this that is oddly charming, makes me miss the old 2000s internet and LiveJournal days. She really is the Little Fujo That Could. If I were a conspiracy theorist I'd almost think she actually did make a deal with the devil to get her DeviantArt OCs into a multi-million-dollar Amazon show, it's kind of admirable actually.
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>>151357801
She will sing one song about being a villain/always watching and then do nothing
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Brendon Urie will be voicing Cain in Season 3, by the way.
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>>151357817
This show is all about permadeath that even Sera was shitting herself over. God doesn't exist in this series so no backups.
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>>151357845
You’re making that up.
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Man I really want to see lute beat and rape emily with her throbbing angelic cock
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>>151357845
Fun if true
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So what do you guys think Alastor made Rosie promise him in order to get him to help stop the gun? He wanted a concession.
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>>151357845
Yeah that sounds like something Viv would do
>>151357858
She fixed his staff
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>>151357855
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>Season 3
>Alastor corrupts Emily and she becomes a fallen angel
>Sera is in the brink of tears, fear, and betrayal. She listens to Abel and decides to make a war in season 4
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I wonder if Cain is still wandering the Earth.
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>>151357902
That's just your corruption fetish fic
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>>151357878
>>151357858
I'd fix his staff and let him broadcast my screams if you know what I mean
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>>151357902
why do you guys want a war so badly. it's not like heaven is going to win.
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>>151357910
I don’t have a corruption fetish, but Vivziepop does and she warned people that Alastor will be a villain.
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>>151357754
>dreams section actually came true
Weirdly inspiring
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>>151357654
For what...?
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>>151357910
I'm starting to think this is literally just one coomer guy with a fetish who keeps posting this shit
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>>151357777
Nice lucky quads of truth. Also agree, don't see why else she would be completely absent otherwise like some sort of bad omen.
>>151357801
My autistic headcanon is that Roo/Eve will be a walking contradiction where she's both a evil entity yet also a doe-eyed 'perfect' wife & mother- maybe like a conduit for the (roo)t of evil that lost her original self.
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>>151357561
Meaning?
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>>151357920
There HAS to be a war plot

They’ve been building it up since season 1
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>>151357902
Sorry, you will get your angel dust/huskerdust drama first and you will like it
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>>151357949
That’s the B story with Val.
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>>151357574
I'm still waiting for it to be about a hotel!
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Everyone wants Alastor to corrupt Emily, I want Emily to redeem Al
imagine Charlie's reaction to the one guy who always firmly said redemption was a pipe dream getting redeemed by her angelic counterpart instead of her hotel.
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How would Digimon fare in Hazbin Hell?
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>>151357964
There are not enough episodes for it to just be about the hotel. They had to cut all of the episodic stuff and focus on the plot.
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>>151357012
She also liked this today, kek. Keep dreaming
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>>151355495
I'm right there with you buddy, i love the music and i love the show cause its fun, simple as.
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>>151357972
Digimon stomp
no diff
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Charlie is the least interesting character in her own show, and she would have lost if not for “Le just as planned” by a chaotic evil character in her corner(Al)

Genuinely embarrassed for her
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Anyone else doesn't want Rose to be Lilith ? I feel like it will kill her character, the moment is gets revealed there won't be Rose anymore
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>>151357948
There wont be a war
its over, its time for peace now
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Wow a pentious song that wasn't shit
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>>151357948
>Season 1: Oh no we're at war! Phew we narrowly avoided it!
>>Season 2: Oh no we're at war! Phew we narrowly avoided it!
We probably only have 16 episodes left in this series, there isn't enough time for it to happen and to have good writing.
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>>151357995
I genuinely don’t know how else they would handle Rosie’s character because it does not make logical sense for a single sinner/overlord to be able to promise Alastor in perpetuity that he will always be the most powerful sinner in hell

She can’t just be a run of the mill powerful demon. There HAS to be something else at play there
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>>151357979
Lame, no character development or fun stuff then. Seriously, NONE OF THESE CHARACTERS HAVE DEVELOPED SINCE THE FIRST EPISODE!
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>>151356952
>>151357123
Even if we were to entertain this idea for a moment:

>The palest, literally white-skinned female character is the savior of all of the sinners and takes everyone to Heaven

>The only 2 people left in Hell are black

lol, lmao. Never going to happen
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>>151357261
Not everything needs to have fuckable characters coombrain
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>>151357995
>>151358019
I'm kind of coping and hoping she's working for Lilith instead of being her because yeah I'd miss her. If the real Lilith was described as being similar to Rosie then I'd probably be fine with it but she sounds like she's pretty different.
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>>151356493
Not really, more like the heroes are pussies

Charlie could have ended the arc so much sooner if she just beat vox to death. She can realistically kill most of the big bads in hell besides maybe alastor or rosie. Emily is the same she just a coward
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>>151357905
Don't expect much biblical accuracy. Like, how can Adam be the first "winner" if Abel died before Adam?
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When are we going to see Rosie's butt?
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Starting to think this man's a little mentally unwell
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>>151357706
>>151357794
I found lookalikes, but not perfect matches.
Pretty sure these are not supposed to be an actual group of angels above everyone, they are just a cool visual representing the angels in general.
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Does Lilith have an assigned voice actress yet?
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>>151358077
Yes.
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>>151358077
No, maybe we'll get lucky and someone will leak it.
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>>151357706
>>151358066
Either way, if they are another group of Seraphim, it seems based on the casting notes that they would not outrank Sera nor Emily.
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>>151354032
I actually liked most of the songs this season. Only one I didn't vibe with was Speedrun to Redemption. My favorite was Gravity.
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Abel having tragic mommy flashbacks in season 4.
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Has anyone else who disliked Season 1, but decided to give the show another chance, gave up on this show after watching his finale?

Many shows have wonky first seasons, and I assumed this show was another example of that. But this season was just so much worse than the first season, so much so that I've lost interest
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Brendon Urie Cain or Lady Gaga Lilith?
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>>151358108
*this finale
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>>151358100
Abel seems to have actually loved his father which surprised me. He was praying for his guidance to deal with Lute and literally assumed the mantle.
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>>151358065
How is he going to recover from this season
Vox livestreamed his humiliation to all of Hell and called him out, then he was used as a battery in a weapon that nearly destroyed everything.
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>>151355467
If Viv is trying to be more biblical with the introduced angels (or at least Torah) then is it possible that the cast will validate their redemption (Hazbin Hotel) by learning they are trapped in Purgatory, and the angels are overstepping their duties out of sinful hatred?
>"Hell" is full of fire and about redemption (like true Purgatory)
>true Hell is the truest void (basically God's garburator/incinerator for irredeemable souls)
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>>151354032
>They could have easily mixed this season with season 1 in order to make a fancier finale

Anon I'm pretty sure you could literally treat S1+S2 as one full arc. While stuff for future seasons has been laid out there aren't anywhere near as many breadcrumbs like going from S1 -> S2.

Try treating it as a 16-episode season instead of two separate 8-episode ones and suddenly it looks better. Then the finale of Season 1 becomes more of a mid-game finale, etc
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>>151358121
The most obvious solution is the most likely: at the end of the series he will abdicate to Charlie and she will be Queen of Hell
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>>151358121
He has become so stupid that he might just forget all of that happened. His brain is so smooth the entirety of season 2 will slip out
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>>151358135
Also have his imprisonment lifted.
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>>151358120
I want Adam to be shown in flashbacks as a good father and leader but he was just really racist towards demons. It would make fans happy but also show the dichotomy between how Nazis or something can go home after doing horrible things
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>>151355379
Don't you mean Re-Lute?

>>151355306
Not really, if anything this plays more like a second half of a larger arc set up by S1. S3 is going to mostly be a clean slate.
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>>151357979
Fuck the plot, it didn't need anything more than Charlie struggling with redeeming sinners while having a rhomp through hell with her new friends.
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>>151358077
Obviously not. The way Viv makes shows makes it really obvious when someone has a voice actor and when they don't. The characters with voice actors never shut up while Lilith just kinda walks around.

You saw it with Millie and Loona during Season 2 of HB.
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>Alastor climbs his way to the top honestly on Earth but cheats his way in Hell
>Vox cheats his way to the top on Earth but builds a proper powerbase in hell
A funny little detail
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>>151358120
Abel also wants a war on Hell over his dad. The problem is his own inherit weaknesses as a person.
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>>151355165
even with the broken staff he was still the most powerful sinner in hell and fully capable of fulfilling his hotel duties. that also doesn't matter because lucifer was there so al's powers weren't needed anymore.

rosie left him with a broken staff because it gave her even more leverage over him.
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>>151355165
She was using the staff as leverage
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>>151358137
god the way he got captured was so fucking pathetic, and you just know Alastor is going to mock the shit out of him for it.
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Shock.wav is the strongest sinner in hell
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have to know how lute fans are feeling right now after all that. how's it feel to be built up a whole season only to get scolded and sent home?
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>>151358182
Not a Lute fan but things like this are why I barely give a shit about this show
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>>151358182
Blue-balled and coping.
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>>151358108
My experience was that I ended up watching the first season after the first two episodes leaked, and thought it was rushed and mediocre. I ignored this season but watched episodes 3/4 and 7/8 because I saw that they were being streamed in these threads when I was lurking. Can't help myself, it's like a big football event and everyones all gathered on the couch to yell at it.
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I kind of like the implication given over this season that the Vees actually do like each other and are basically friends despite all the toxicity and infighting.

Vox’s egomania aside not every villain team would bother saving their backstabbing boss right after he nearly killed everyone
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my biggest complaint with this season is we didn't get to see anymore of the green mummy sinner.
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>>151358108
I think the pacing was actually better than the constantly rushed to introduce everyone first season. I just have blue balls for days with how much they hyped up Lute just to not give her anything.
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>>151357982
Holy kek
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>>151358208
I was hoping to see more of Melissa. It would have been fun to see Ethan (Vox’s assistant) and Melissa interacting together
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>>151358182
I found it annoying, of course, but I will say that there are much worse ways it could’ve happened.

The fact that Abel standing up to her made Lute see and think of Adam was interesting. She spent the whole season constantly saying he was nothing like his father, but she finally compared them mentally and was willing to bend

I found it…sweet? I guess.
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>>151358182
At least she got the best song, and a brief reprise in the future montage.
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>>151358108
I liked the first season because of what it setup. The whole final battle part was pretty boring though. It was only cool seeing Alastor take Adam. Wasting away a lot of that setup really killed my interest in the show but I'll keep watching until they kill off alastor
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>>151355467
>Sinners are in Hell because they deserve it.
Ah yes, the unbaptized babies, and suicidal truly deserve being slaughtered. I'm Lute suffers, and her fans suffer. Delicious seeing the spiteful suffer.
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She's the hottest woman across the hellaverse
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To kick off the season with such a powerful mission statement in Gravity and then have it lead to absolutely fucking nothing is pretty weird. Maybe the payoff will be in a later season? Pretty disappointing for it to be left incomplete like that, or at best straddling seasons.
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>>151358058
Post more of her.
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>one of the lead storyboard artist posted this
what did they mean by this
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>>151358248
The poor man-eating cannibal child.
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>>151358182
feels good
fuck Lute and fuck Adam by extension
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>>151357944
They thought the audience was as dumb as Vox and would just assume
>Oh, "dont lay your hands on Charlie" just means don't harm her
>Just touching her is fine
NOBODY thought that
literally everybody's pet theory was that Vox would get caught up in the moment, physically touch Charlie, and break the deal
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Pretty cool
https://x.com/TheCartoonBase/status/1991312344656253238
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>>151358259
>The poor man-eating cannibal child.
Sinning through grooming of the innocent is not the same. This is no debate.
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>>151358249
She's also probably the most interesting character to me too. She seems like an ex angel or something too.
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>>151358182
Like I baited myself for nearly two years into thinking that she'd get to do at least one cool thing.
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>>151355467
Doing something wrong would require doing something at all.
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>>151358299
Looks like you will have to wait three years.
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>>151358287
Maybe she's the reason why Adam seemed to be into latinas so much
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>>151358306
weren't they already working on seasons 3 and 4 while 2 was getting ready to release?
the wait shouldn't be that long at all
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>>151358163
>that also doesn't matter because lucifer was there so al's powers weren't needed anymore
Lucifer is unable to do shit against sinners, Al's powers were very much needed with all the sinners looking for trouble swarming the hotel. Also, she can be angry as much as she wants, she lost her best weapon just because she wanted to teach him a lesson, arrogance was her own undoing too
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He is Lilith
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>>151358307
Nah. That would be Eve.
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>>151358306
Wake me when
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>>151357845
>tfw get get a dueling duet song with him and Abel
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this was great
says a lot without saying too much
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HEAR MY COPE
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>>151358322
>first woman was a big booty latina
You know what, I'm fine with this
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>>151358333
Rosie is proud of her protege

You can tell she’s impressed he outwitted her(even if it was bs lol)
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I like how Rosie looked so proud at how fucking underhanded Alastor is, she's genuinely impressed at his cunning at not only getting out of his deal but forcing her to fix his staff to help out.
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>>151358314
I know.
Although, it seems like the big plan they have with Hazbin and Helluva is to essentially make one big season (16 episodes for Hazbin, and 15 for Boss) and split them off in 2026 and 2027.
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>>151358333
No homo, but he's so hot in this scene
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>>151358156
true doomed yaoi
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>>151358354
This is why Alastor belongs to Lilith instead of Adam.
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Life as Moxxie is rough
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>>151358276
That was a really neat bit of advertising for this season
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>>151358156
>inb4 viv makes him a serial killer just to have some sort of parallel with alastor
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Could they defeat Alastor?
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>>151358354
>>151358349
>>151358333
I was thinking Alastor would want to basically wipe Rosie out immediately, but it seems he does actually still like or respect her
I suspect going forward they'll just have a relationship as equals or partners, since he clearly wanted and was happy to go back to the Hotel
I bet he'd even still do whatever task Rosie wanted from him as a favor, if she does something nice for him in return

but the other side of this coin is that he probably only wants to stay at the hotel because he clearly has designs on Charlie's soul for whatever ultimate nefarious Keikaku he ultimately has
you just know he's itching every time Lucifer is around, now that he knows Lu can't actually do shit to him
>I want to kill this guy so bad and I could totally do it now but it would screw up Charlie
>Be patient, Alastor
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>>151358409
Easily
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>>151358333
>>151358354
Holy shit I'm just now noticing Rosie has blush marks. Like Charlie and Lucifer.
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>>151358417
uuuuuuuuuuughhhh
it's MAKEUP
ACCURATE TO THE TIME PERIOD AND THEME OF HER CLOTHING
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>>151358333
I'd make a deal with Rose for her to become my wife
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>>151358354
I'm impressed he's not out there levelling cannibal town to the ground. For someone seemingly so unhinged, he's just satisfied to rub in her face he outsmarted her
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>>151358441
God, me too
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>>151358417
Oh shit what the fuck? Me too
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>Roo possesses Lute and the exorcists to be mad warriors
>Stops from Lute making a realizing (muh Adam) and stoping the extermination.
>She tries to act strong about it but just breaks into tears.
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>>151358445
especially considering she's the only other person who knows he didn't get his power legitimately

You'd think just as a reputational risk, she has to go
but Alastor knows what he's doing, clearly. I guess it's not hard to be the smartest guy in Hell when everyone else is retarded.
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>>151358409
They could but Al would convince them to fuck and he would escape
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>>151358087
so no one outranks sera I could get, but emily being one of the highest is insane. Also what irked me is you have lucifer and abel and adam but not freaking micheal or some of the big dogs of christian lore on the angel side. Feels like they gave up on heaven being more than just a bg for hell's hate and ideals
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>>151358285
>>151358259
I actually believe Sinners can reproduce, which at this point, wouldn't be the dumbest thing, sadly
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>>151358476
Vox’s hatred is probably amplified by Roo’s possession of him.
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>>151358409
These two were really boring, their dad was cooler.
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>>151358476
Charlie War next season?
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>>151358447
>my "Rosie has been Lillith in disguise for reasons this whole time" theory gaining more traction
Good......good..........
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>>151358468
Ew what the fuck is that super saiyan form they gave Emily. She looks like Tien if he was a fucking marshmellow
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>>151358505
Sinners can’t reproduce by word of Viv

Sole exception is Lilith but she’s basically her own thing entirely presumably. Presumably some sort of true demon now from all the hell energy
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>>151358528
Nah. Charlie more likely came out of Eve’s vagina.
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>>151358528
so that means a cambion would only be possible between a hellborn demon and a living human? are they even canonized into the series?
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>>151358536
Yeah she did
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>>151358394
Imagine getting cucked by your boss, followed by having to get even by fucking his boss' adopted daughter.
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>>151358547
Lilith would’ve had kids before Charlie if that was the case.
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>>151358544
There’s no evidence that half demon/half human babies are possible outside Charlie herself to my knowledge, and Charlie may not even count due to the special circumstances around Lilith(who is clearly immortal and demonic, not a normal human anymore)

As for what would happen if Angel Dust visited earth and fucked a bunch of human women no clue
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>>151358394
>>151358549
Blitzo does this because he wishes he was a better brother to his sister.
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>Alastor somehow just knew that Vox would specifically ask Charlie to tell all of Hell on live TV that he was the strongest sinner
>Alastor knew he would be present at this time and place to force Charlie to say it using his deal he set up with her a fucking year ago
>It all happens exactly the way it needs to happen to make Alastor look like a genius, desipte being basically blind luck
this is what happens when stupid people try to write smart characters
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>>151358574
So um was it against the law to attack Heaven seems like Satan should do a trial again
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>>151358005
Take that back.
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>>151358574
>this is what happens when stupid people try to write smart characters
its a fucking musical
there is nothing SMART about most musicals
it is literally a spectacle of performances
none of these character present high IQ
just high ego driven spite
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>>151358005
Does anyone have the clip of it when Sera sings sacrifice?
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I’d still like to know the actual rules and parameters around how Deals work

Is it only something Overlords specifically are magically able to do? Can powerful Hellborn or Goetia invoke Dealmaking?

Could Charlie theoretically make her own “Deal?” as a proposal? Lucifer?

I know in the pilot Vaggie implied “deal makers” were a category of villain essentially but that doesn’t seem to be entirely the case
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>>151357979
>They had to cut all of the episodic stuff and focus on the plot.
>had 3 seasons to work with.
>Man, we could slow down a litt--
>Use this time to make a fucking filler season with ANOTHER WAR.
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>>151358615
That line in Live To Live about finding meaning in a beam of sunlight had me feeling a certain way. It do be like that sometimes.
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I'd just like to point out that Lute beat the PISS out of Vaggie once again, she is no match at all for her in a fair fight
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>>151358672
Yeah no shit, it's only been a month since the s1 finale.
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>>151358518
The Hazbin Hotel vs Goggles Charlie, Mask Charlie, Danny Do Bad, and Charlie Kirk
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>>151358409
These two are about as racist and bloodthirsty towards demons as Lute, but with significantly more speed and strength. Yeah they would absolutely destroy Alastor
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>>151358672
The main cast is really bad at winning fights
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>>151358672
>Vaggie and Lute both go corrupt Roo mode
>Lute ends up giving up out of grief and realization.
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>>151358677
Also Charlie Smiling Friends
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>>151358574
>Alastor somehow just knew that Vox would specifically ask Charlie to tell all of Hell on live TV that he was the strongest sinner
He's been literally putting the words in Vox's mouth the entire season
>Alastor knew he would be present at this time and place to force Charlie to say it using his deal he set up with her a fucking year ago
That just proved that he didn't have anything in particular to ask Charlie at that moment, he just kept that ace in his back pocket, and, again riling up Vox. Not that it was needed, everyone and their mother could predict that he would make his accomplishments as public as possible
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>>151355849
She had Niffty write the most debauched horrifically lurid slashfic possible featuring them
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some radiostatic fans are pissed they're getting pump and dump for radioapple
>teased radiostatic all season
>just to show alastor never caring about vox and calling him a creep
>now they move on to the next bait, alastor showing interest for lucifer
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>>151358705
>just to show alastor never caring about vox and calling him a creep
Idk if Viv has said otherwise but I'm under the impression that Vox caused more feelings in Alastor than he'd like to admit.
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>>151358705
I don’t think you can make the case for Alastor having romantic interest in anyone at this point

His closest relationship is with Rosie and they are more like best frenemies than best friends
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>>151358672
Without one arm btw
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>>151358394
Sorry no straight couples allowed
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>>151357585
It would be in character to misspell exterminator for terminator.
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>>151357995
Most people don't want it, they've just accepted that it's clearly what's going to happen. Similar to Lilith being Eve, but some people want that just as an easy out for Lilith being a cunt.
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what's funny about Alastor forcing Charlie to make Vox the strongest sinner is that, apparently, nobody still knows why he did that
>Alastor is back at the hotel and in a much better mood, but they don't know why
>So they don't know he got out of his deal with Rosie, since nobody even knew he had a deal with Rosie
so from everybody else's perspective it looks like Alastor just forced Charlie to make Vox stronger so he could...kick his ass?
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>>151358764
Alastor and Vox literally talked about the deal in front of Charlie
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>>151358764
Charlie is gonna take him burning his wish on forcing her admission as a sign he’s being reformed and he’s gonna encourage that notion I think
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>>151357777
Only because she has the embodiment of evil and misery in her small intestine.
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>>151358764
Charlie would’ve assumed Alastor wanted Vox to break the deal.
Plus, the footage that day is so wonky that no one will remember what actually happened.
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>>151357972
Lucemon humiliates Lucifer
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>>151357995
why do people think it's certain rosie is gonna be lilith. all the major headcannon/leaks so far has been a dud, especially that vox past theory about being a cult leader.
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>>151358802
The cult thing was stated by Val. It was unironically just misinformation on his part
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>>151358802
The Rosie/lilith leak is old. And connected to Helluva Boss leaks that turned out to be true.
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>>151358409
Absolutely.
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>>151358802
The Rosie=Lilith leak was also the one that said she was the person Alastor made his deal with. And nobody was guessing it was Rosie at the time. They might've also been the person who leaked Bee's design.
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>>151358771
Yeah, the deal about not touching Charlie
not the chains from Rosie coming off
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>>151358802
Everyone thought the cult leader thing would be his major sin, but it came off as just a after effect of his dozens of murders.
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>>151358764
I'm surprised Charlie didn't reacted at all to it, she only knows half of the story from her POV Alastor was being the ultimate hero
>Don't touch Charlie
Protecting her or some shit like that
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>>151358841
Call Lute a bitch and she will do everything you want
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>>151358764
Everyone seems to take the Zestial attitude towards Alastor and just doesn't bother even trying to figure out what makes him tick or why he does what he does
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I wonder if Carmilla would have a scene in season 4 of telling Vaggie that she isn’t her mom, but Lute is.
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>>151358705
Why are radiostatic fans surprised at Alastor calling Vox a creep? It's most likely not just the touching the shoulders thing that made Alastor say that. Vox tied Alastor up and forced him to watch him have sex with his boyfriend. That fits the definition of sexual assault. On top of the many weird things he did to Alastor in episode 4 without his consent

Notice how Alastor's ears were peeled back as he called him a creep too
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>>151358841
You just know Lute felt a twinge in her womanly parts when Abel finally stepped up and channeled a bit of his dad's badassery.
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>>151358900
>Vox tied Alastor up and forced him to watch him have sex with his boyfriend.
Lmao I forgot he did that
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watch them make lilith a villain and betray lucifer so they can make a second stolitz
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>>151358930
Lilith is obviously going to be a villain
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So...big...
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>>151358930
Viv regularly reblogs Lucifer/Lilith stuff. I'm telling you it's gonna be a polycule ending.
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Vaggie will defeat Lute with a hug
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>>151358925
I was honestly shocked that they would put this in the show. Not because it's sexual assault but it just seems some sort of weird M/M noncon yandere fanfiction scenario. Idk maybe I was too optimistic to expect the writers to not be so self indulgent with their favorite ships
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>>151358961
Increasingly convinced Adam’s literal spirit will come from beyond the oblivion to tell her to forgive at the end
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>>151358969
Imagine if lute is swept away by Adam in season 4.
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>>151358939
Hear my plap let it breed
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>>151358939
Emily is the actual hero of the show right? She does more then Charlie unironically
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>>151358182
Malded but now fine since Viv said she's a sleeper villain. I'm patient enough to wait
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earth in hazbin is actually the real hell with all that serial killer running free
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>>151358705
Anyone with a brain would know it was one sided and Vox was an obsessive ex
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>>151359029
Yes, especially now given Shtizo and IMP are running around causing colateral damage that gets a bunch of people all the time killed. Maybe Heaven should worry more about hellborn doing that then proving sinners in Hell lol
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>>151359029
There's way worse things happening in real life right now than a small handful of historical killing sprees in hellaverse earth
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>Charlie does nothing.
>Vaggie achieves nothing without Carmilla telling her what to do.
>Angel was just a victim.
>Husk and Cherri rescuing Angel was useless.
>Nifty defending Baxter didn't help at all.
How is it that everyone at the hotel except Alastor was useless when it came to defeating Vox?
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see you fuckers in 2 years
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>>151359092
Charlie wasn't trying to stop Vox until he went full Hitler. She just wanted to do her little hotel bit.

Charlie being a dumbass is exactly why Alastor is helping her.
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He really is a pedo
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>>151359102
Always remember, they did a filler season.
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>>151359119
>this was the 'filler' season
its over
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>>151359029
Anon there's someone in the world being raped right now but you are in the comfort of your house talking about cartoons, the earth is already shit but you just need to be in the right place for it to be less shit
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>>151359116
huh?
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>>151359029
>>151359149
Sounds like Heaven is the only good place.
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>>151358895
I thought you were going somewhere with the first part.
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So was Adam’s body supposed to be a thing to reveal in season 2 till it got Vox’d.
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>>151357580
I think the deal struck with Amazon allowing for crossovers with Helluva characters didn't go through soon enough to appear this season, otherwise Paimon probably would have stormed Vox's tower himself if he's as loyal in this universe as he was in mythology.
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>>151359174
No, Alex said it'd be in season 3.
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>>151359185
Season 3 was supposed to be season 2.
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>>151359102
with their pattern there's probably helluva s3 or potentially vess spin off coming out. they better learn shit by then. but oh who am i kidding
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>>151359197
Ok but he said season 3.
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>>151359156
>heaven being the only good place
>import rapists from literal hell saying he's good now
>after some time the rapist's habit is back
wat nou
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Gotta say i expected this to be a filler season but it set up things nicely for a change of dynamics between heaven and hell now that everyone knows redemption is possible

then again i hope lilith comes back to wreck some havok otherwise it will be boring if everybody is buddy buddy with each other
serpentius made things too favorable to heaven's view

we need a third group, sort of like the gray jedi
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>>151359116
Bro they're both shorties. The hell you on about?
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>>151357012
Alastor is for Charlie only
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>>151359240
brave of you to say this after this season
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>>151359206
He’s probably teasing people since he doesn’t know what’s finished or not at Amazon. Or he’s expecting for it to be released earlier (right now, he is working on season 4 and that is currently getting animation work done).
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>Abel does start to resemble Adam more and more
>It gives Lute severe depression
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Alastor really is a piece of shit...
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I VOLUNTEER
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I do not care for vox
I do not care for the vees
I do not care for alastor
I do not care for this season
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>>151359116
Are you on drugs?
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>>151356480
He genuinely cares a lot for Val in the Drawing video, he just goes full retard when in proximity to Alastor, kind of like some animals do when it's mating season. They realize he's being a cocksucker right now and are waiting for him to get the fuck over it so they can scold him and then get back to normal
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>>151359223
>third group
Demon royalty, heavenborn, humans, and the "nonexistent" souls living on Azathoth's Tears.
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what nigger decided that casting brendon urie for cain in s3 would be a good idea
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>>151356737
Vox is constantly putting his hands on peoples shoulders, heads, going for handshakes
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Season 2 basically shows us that the overlords have learned nothing from their mistakes at all.
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who's your favorite background character?
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>>151356737
>At no point is Vox ever shown to be gropey with anyone but Alastor himself. He invented that character trait on the spot
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>>151359351
Lucifer.
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>>151359329
Literally nothing like this has happened.
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>>151359248
Viv kept Charlie and Alastor apart this season because their chemistry is too strong.
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>>151359116
I wish Niffty was a really a child
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i want to fuck patr-- abel! yeah, i want to fuck abel!
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>>151359377
>He doesn't know
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>>151359394
And what’s the source?
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Vox worked for a network with Santa Clause rules?
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>>151359401
Do your own research. Check the archives.
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>alastor getting soloed by vox's pet shark
Jesus christ what a jobber
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>>151356800
It makes sense because everyone except Alastor is given plot induced idiocy because Alastor is the very special writer's pet
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>went from mass manipulator mecha hitler to "that deer fucking rejected me so i'm gonna shoot up everyone and myself" elliot rodger
amazing
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Alastor was losing to the shark on purpose
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>>151358058
God, I need more of Rosie
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>>151359423
it's incels all the way down
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>>151359411
And had to get saved by Emily lmfaoo
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>>151359423
>Fucking crying and throwing a tantrum over Alastor rejecting him and calling him a creep

Vox is never recovering from this lmfao
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>>151359428
I thought you hated modern technology Alastor, why are you posting here?
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>>151359409
I checked them. The only comment is a random anon.
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Alastar was fighting in a weakened state with his staff broken.
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Is gold and yellow in season 4 supposed to be connected to Lute and Zestial?
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>YAY, MY FRIEND'S RAPIST IS HERE TO HELP
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I would absolutely KILL for an Abel song that just lets Patrick Stump go all out! Same goes for a Lucifer song! GIVE ME MY ROCK AND ALT ROCK KINGS PLEEEEAAAASSSEEEE
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>>151359508
Based Charlie saying fuck angel dust
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god i keep thinking charlie isn't wearing pants in her soiree outfit
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>>151359351
By a mile.
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>>151359515
This all day every day. Lucifer's song just being a short solo for a much longer and much worse song is the biggest sin done this season.
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>>151359528
I’m confused.
Is she supposed to be bottomless.
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I might be a serial killer but at least I don't put my hands on people's shoudlers
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>>151359528
all the cats at the casino were cute.
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time to wait another two fucking years for season 3

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
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>>151359570
You mean the season we would’ve gotten today if Viv didn’t overly fixate on Vix so much?
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my sources tell me that season 3 will be 24 episodes long
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>>151359588
cant wait to wait til 2035
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>>151359588
That’s a lie and you know it.
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>>151359351
I wanted to see her at the hotel
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>>151359588
>24 episodes of angelwank
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>tfw some guy at my city rly took the risk at doing a alastor cosplay for the upcoming convention.
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>>151359351
That bird girl that got killed by being thrown out a window in the sinners song but reappeared in the rubble in the last episode.
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>>151359614
damn we getting s3 before gta 7
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>>151359508
>thought it would've been funny as shit for them to try and join in singing and it pans over to Charlie looking like this
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>>151359351
My favorite is a background character
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>>151359351
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>>151359616
at least we saw her briefly at the end there.
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>>151359651
>Maximum Depression for a guy that would’ve returned in season 3 if Vox didn’t happen.
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>season 3
original sound track
- angel dust leaving hotel song
- angel dust family reunion song
- angel dust dad abuse song
- lilith is a bad mom song
- lucifer sad song
- angel dust stands up to dad song
- angel dust stands up to val song
- angel dust x husk gay redemption song
- lilith master plan reveal song
- angel dust miss husk gay heaven song ft molly
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>>151359683
Based angeltrash season
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>>151359683
And season 4 would be the content the heaven guys wanted.
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>MOM?
>cuts to black

what will you do when season 3 picks up and the voice through the reciever is the same as rosie's
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>>151359713
season 3 will open up with the phone answering "Haha nope, sorry Char-bear, just me good ol' dad, checkin in on ya, still calling your mom every day?? hahah same, same....
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>>151359728
God I wish lucifer was in the laser gun when they banished it
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It’s worth noting that despite the voice recording of Hazbin Season 3 ended in July. The reason for it is because of broadway schedule issues. So they’re wrapping up for a late 2026 release. Especially since Hazbin has much shorter releases/content than Helluva Boss does.
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>>151359116
>short people are children
I mean...
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The next season is going to have more than 8 episodes, right? Because Vivz already said that we would see more about Lilith, Angel and his family, and Alastor acting more like a villain in the next season, and I don't see how the hell they're going to handle three different storylines with only 8 episodes.
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>>151359774
Nope. It’s going to be 8 episodes of gay romance Lilith drama.
Helluva boss only has one season in production because it’s 15 episodes.
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ngl the last two eps were pretty epic
watching alastor and vox do a city scale throwdown
the cape
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>>151359361
Okay Alastor is one to talk.
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>>151359836
Alastor is cute so he can do It, while Vox is ugly
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>Season 3 shows Adam’s body, watched over by Rosie. Teasing its presence
>Season 4. Lute puts down her sword and the corruption she had. Adam appears, without mask, while she is crying on the floor.
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>>151359508
Husk and Nifty work as actual slaves for Alastor so being someone's pimp is a straight up upgrade.
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>>151359844
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Vox's fingers never went dangerously close to Charlie's nipples.
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what is rosies endgame
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>>151359914
Protect Charlie.
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>>151359914
Raping Alastor
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>>151359914
She probably wanted to have Adam and offer him to Eve/Roo to try to resolve things.
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Finally watched the finale episodes. Already predicted Alastor’s deals alongside everyone else (making Vox the “strongest sinner” and him not “laying a hand” on Charlie, those technicalities are just Demon Deals 101 and I don’t know how Vox dealt with people in hell for 70-something years without knowing that there are always loopholes like that, anyway-)
The finale was fun and the hate for it was overblown. Vox’s story felt rushed but I get it, he was basically a more brazen 1950’s version of Alastor. The “power of friendship” Care Bears/Naruto ending was kinda dorky but wholesome, it was nicer than I expected. The Emily/Alastor shitposting is a big overreaction, she was flying around trying to save everyone. Alastor is definitely being set up to be the future villain. Still assuming Rosie is Lilith but who knows.

Tl;dr I was still pleasantly surprised despite having low expectations
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just finished the finale and I am SO FUCKING MAD they did NOTHING with Lute. they set up a fun plot for her with the best song of the season and then just squandered her completely. god DAMNIT.
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>>151359956
Sameanon as >>151359950, forgot to mention (because they did nothing with her!) but same. They released Gravity before season 2 premiered and I assumed they were teasing for her to have a huge role in season 2 and she literally showed up for like 10 seconds to yell at Vaggie and that was it. That was disappointing.
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>>151359956
Lute is a character they will do nothing with till season 4. And before that is Adam bait in season 3.
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>>151357123
>yfw Charlie is basically 'Hell Jesus'
Someone should tel Viv there's a small flaw in that emulation: Jesus wasn't just killed instantly. He was betrayed, condemned, beaten, tortured and nailed to a fucking cross for days.
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>>151358841
I hope he gets groomed into being a top if vivztard is just gonna give Emily to Alastor
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>>151359984
her entire arc in s2 is:
>"I'M GONNA KILL ALL THE FUCKIN SINNERS"
>"no, lute."
>"AAARGH!"
rinse and repeat
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>>151360012
knowing viv being a fujo, she'll definitely pair abel up with peter or something like that
> give Emily to Alastor
>giving her favorite pet
>to anyone
lol lmao. there's a reason she made him aroace and showed him being annoyed by everyone.
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>>151358923
I don’t think she felt that when Abel did that.
She had sadness ringing on her face.
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>>151359423
you act like getting your heart crushed isn't the main motivator for most petty shit that happens on this planet
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>>151359554
>she
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>>151360001
>beaten, tortured
>and nailed to a fucking cross for days.
He spent three hours on the cross, not much compared to others who spent days on their crosses
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>>151360049
Abel wouldn’t be gay for Peter or anyone. Emily is more likely to sing with him because she speaks for peace, while Lute speaks for revenge (for Adam).
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>S2 is filler season
>it will be better than every other season
I'm not optimistic for the "non filler" seasons
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>>151360071
Did you know that God the father himself joined in the fun?



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