>The Last Ronin, another TMNT live-action/CG animation hybrid project that was in development, has been put back in the pizza box, according to sources. That project was being developed as an R-rated feature, and had Nobody filmmaker Ilya Naishuller in talks to direct, but the new regime wasn’t keen on having the first non-animated movie in 10 years be a bloody, adult-skewing story. >Multiple sources say Paramount wants to “Sonic-fy” the TMNT franchise.https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-new-live-action-movie-1236431867/
That....is not surprising.
>>151368785>the new regime wasn’t keen on having the first non-animated movie in 10 years be a bloody, adult-skewing story.FUCK PARAMOUNT. I don't even like Last Ronin that much, but that's so fucking dumb.
>>151368785is it not possible for them to just make decent suits if the movie is going to be live action? is nobody capable of it nowadays? would it not be cheaper than CGI?
>>151368785>Multiple sources say Paramount wants to “Sonic-fy” the TMNT franchise.How's that even gonna work? They're fundamentally different types of stories. This feels like a meaningless buzzword some coke-addled executive threw into the report hoping to impress his superiors.
>>151368831Lets face it, they can throw all the big "R-RATED!" signs they want up in front of peoples' faces, but some stupid mom is still gonna see a turtle, take her kid to see it, then bitch and whine when its too bloody.
>>151368842>The movies are live-action/hybrids and play very well to the all-ages, four-quadrant crowd and have become a $1 billion-plus franchise for the studio. Whatever that means.
Is the Last Ronin era over? Are they going to cancel the God of Better Men clone video game, too?>>151368836It would not be cheaper than CGI. CGI has been the crutch Hollywood has leaned on for so long that practical effects workshops are now obscure. It's not like the old days of CGI where only tue biggest, state of the art facilities and staff were working on it. Most movie studios hire Rajesh's CGI Slopfactory and give them a couple months to vomit out something barely acceptable.https://youtu.be/UcJzrfQQ2Y0?si=nsnGo8SLs0yGtPGe
>>151368951>It would not be cheaper than CGI. CGI has been the crutch Hollywood has leaned on for so long that practical effects workshops are now obscure.bummer. zero faith in this then. it'll just be another shallow cash grab done by people who don't care.
>>151368951>Is the Last Ronin era over? Are they going to cancel the God of Better Men clone video game, too?The game devs had to fire half their staff, so its not looking good. No word on the comic.
>>151368785Not surprised. The game has been dead in the water for years also. As much of a best-seller as it was, they picked all the wrong people to work on those things, all while not really acknowledging that it's just not a good story for a movie or game.
>>151368785>The sequel to Mutant Mayhem, being produced by Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg and directed by Jeff Rowe, is still set for a Sept. 17, 2027 release. I thought this was set for 2026? Even though it was originally supposed to be out last month, if I'm remembering things correctly. How badly are things fucked over at Paramount?
>>151369427>How badly are things fucked over at Paramount?Top Gun: Maverick was their biggest hit in ages, and they're still having trouble getting a sequel to that one off the ground. Mutant Mayhem is peanuts in comparison.Assuming that the Mutant Mayhem sequel isn't soft cancelled at this point, it sounds especially retarded to try and have two Ninja Turtles movie series running simultaneously with the exact same target audience. Spider-Man can get away with this because >1. It's Spider-Man, one of the biggest IPs on planet Earth.>2. It's technically two different studios with very different goals making those Spider-Man movies. Paramount would essentially be competing with itself by doing this. Last Ronin wouldn't have been stepping on any toes.
>>151369690>and they're still having trouble getting a sequel to that one off the ground.S'amatter, Tom Cruise too picky?
How would you guys describe the state of the franchise right now? I thought things were looking up with Shredder's Revenge, but I guess that was a fluke.
>>151370041The MM sequel movie is still gonna move forward, so lets support that and hope for the best
>>151370146supporting garbage movies doesn't help the franchise, they'll just make more garbage
>>151369690Rogen's contract is probably airtight and allows him to be locked in for at least that next movie, but it very much sounds like Paramount is trying very hard to re-established TMNT as one of its big IPs that will print a billion in merch sales like it used to. The MM Tales series is dead after this next season and there's no more games and only a few comics due out for it. The TLR sequel is flagging in sales too. Jason Aaron's epic overhyped TMNT relaunch with IDW did so badly that they've already replaced him and are trying, yet again, to rebuild hype for yet another new author.I expect them to wipe the slate clean in the next year or so, maybe the cite some creative problems with MM2 and quietly shelf it or maybe release it direct to streaming. They're going to make the classic blunder though, and rush into a new series and new movies way too soon after the previous version, and people just won't show up for it.
You can just hear those folks at IDW cursing
>>151370041Bad. Spread too thin. Nothing currently being produced is doing well enough to fully rejuvenate interest in the turtles because there's no cohesive idea behind it all. Every single TMNT thing that exists right now is pandering to different sorts of nostalgia and trying to capture different markets. The MtG set is probably going to make WotC a few million dollars, but Raid Shadow Legends crossovers and Godzilla comics aren't going to make TMNT into the moneymaking juggernaut it used to be.
>>151368785The original ugly Sonic movie design was directly inspired by the old original TMNT movies. There was some exec thing that discussed it and why they thought ugly-sonic/old TMNT fit general audiences. So it's bizarre to see some bold TMNT thing get cancelled and now be inspired by the revised cuter Sonic movies.
>>151370659>The original ugly Sonic movie design was directly inspired by the old original TMNT movies.that's a weird fucking inspiration considering sonic has never been really "ugly".
>>151368785Why the hell would they hire a nobody director to direct this? You'd think they'd want someone with some experience.
>>151370711Yea, it was less about Sonic and more a mindless revamp that they thought would work for general audiences who wouldn't know/care about Sonic. I forget how it was described but I thought it was interesting because of how far apart the films were yet the executive mindset remained the same all the way up until ugly Sonic's backlash.Maybe someone knows what I'm referring to because I'd like to see how it was explained again but a cursory google search didn't work for me.
>>151370764"Yeah, the Transformers and Ninja Turtles fans hated our redesigns, but the average shmuck didn't care and we still made money."And then average shmucks hated Ugly Sonic instead.
>>151370146Get fucked
>>151371036Shush, you. At least the Transformers and TMNT were recognizable and true to form. Ugly Sonic was an abomination that would've sunk Sonic in North America.
>>151371217Hey, I'm just quoting a Paramount executive.
https://www.cbr.com/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-sophie-campbell-interview/It's pretty obvious to me that Tom Waltz had no plan or blueprint. The comic meanders aimlessly after City Fall. It's a fucking mess. Tom is lucky that he was able to latch onto Kevin and Pete's ideas for The Last Ronin, because it's the only thing that will spare his legacy.While Tom was riding the easy gravy train with Last Ronin, Sophie was stuck writing a comic with absolutely no direction and way too many characters. I don't like Sophie's writing at all, but I can kind of understand why she just said "fuck it" and did her own thing.
>>151368836Give it another 20 years and some mad lad overseas will do some sort of practical effects movie that rakes in cash
>>151368785Ronigs lost, Sonichads won
>>151371401It was years ago Anon. We know.You can move on.
Let's face it, The Last Ronin is overrated. It’s like starting the Marvel with Old Man Logan, where most everyone is dead. Half of the story focuses on the other characters through flashbacks. The Last Ronin wasn't a "just Mikey" story where "everyone is dead."
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>>151371731The Last Ronin is below average in my opinion. Especially for a TMNT stories doing it's own TDKR. It has been done before but this one felt particularly uninspired and insipid in my opinion.
So, can they cancel the Rogen sequel too?
>>151371922no that one's still in production
>>151372000Please?
>>151368785>Multiple sources say Paramount wants to “Sonic-fy” the TMNT franchise.SLASH THE EDGETURTLE
>>151372031we can only hope and ask Paramount otherwise. Believe me, that movie was shit, even if it was visually appealing, I don't want a sequel either
>>151370758>Nobody filmmaker Ilya Naishulleras in Nobody, the 2021 film.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZti8QKBWPo&t=5s
>>151368842I think it means they'll make them green and friendly, possibly isekai'd cartoon characters into the real world, instead of realistic monstrosities
>>151371731Yeah its weak but an adaption could have at least returned the Turtles to a darker tone.
>>151372281>returnedThe turtles were never dark you secondary. The "darkness" was because they were parodying Frank Miller, not out of genuine edge.
>>151372324A darker tone doesn't need to mean edgy. The 1990 film has a darker tone compared to the sequels, for example. The 03 series is also a tad more serious than most of the animated adaptions.
