Remember when they tried to bring Miracleman into 616
>>151551515No?
>>151551515They didn't, they just had a guy look at his symbol and go "what da hell does it mean??"
Not really. Wasn't his symbol in something?
>>151551515Were they really going to Doomsday Clock Miracleman?
>>151551515They did kinda with the fucking retarded Sentry character.
>>151551572Yeah, but everything went wrong before it could happen. At this point, the best thing to do is to just make a reboot of the guy in 616 based on the OG while taking bits of the Moore lore.
What was the point?
>>151551572OH MY GOOOD!
>>151551756Marvel wanted to piss off Moore
>>151551756I ship it
>>151551928
Dark Age is never coming out, is it?
>>151552420>Dark AgeYou're saying it's going to get even worse?
>>151551515How long until they cram him into DC's universe
>>151551515>>151551572I am kind of glad Neil's rape accusations came out just in time to save us from that
>>151552660Maybe not him, but a successor.
>>151552673No the only thing it would have saved them from is Neil Gaiman being involved with putting Miracleman in 616This just clears the way for Marvel to do it without having to worry about consulting him
>>151552660Did you see the TV show Pennyworth?
>>151551515They should put'im in RIVALS desu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>151551756RIP my nigger John Cassaday.
>>151551832Honestly, I don't think they can more than DC has.
>>151552420Nope, they can't use anything Neil wrote, and it's questionable if they would even build off what he already did.
>>151552660I'm actually waiting for DC to shove him into the DC universe as a rival to Clark as a reporter.
>>151551515Then Gaiman being slow as fuck and a sex pest prevented that to happen
>>151554098Kek this is true
>>151551940Isn't Miracleman gay?
>>151552601It already went worse under Gaiman
>>151551515>Marvel: we finally got our "watchmen">no one caredsad really. They don't care about Neil Gaiman's series just ending since it never sold that well anyways.
>>151554144I could absolutely see V, King Mob, Spider Jerusalem, The Saint of Killers, and Promethea all jammed into the universe with no rhyme or reason
>>151554466>PrometheaAnon, I...
>>151554497I know she's a Wildstorm property but did they really put Moore's Wildstorm characters into the DC continuity?
>>151551756Marvel is still trying to push carol, huh?
>>151554516Do you consider Tom Strong a Wildstorm property?
>>151554625Why did they have to do this
>>151554144>>151554466Spider and The Saint of Killers are straight up creator-owned; that won't happen unless Ellis and Ennis sell the complete rights to Transmet and Preacher to DCV was actually outright sold to DCPromethea is owned by DC on account of Moore taking the better deal for his fellow collaborators by giving up the rights to everything except LOEG
>>151554667At this point I think the only reason tvey did the whole Watchmen and Tom Strong thing was because Geoff Johnns and DC editorial wanted to piss off Moore even more.
>>151554625Tom Strong makes more sense than Promethia to the DC universe, and it was handled better than how Orlando did to Promethia
>>151554818If we go by how they were handled I would say:Tom Strong > Promethea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Watchmen as a whole
>>151554860Rebirth was a strange era. On one side, people was happy with how things were going, but on the other side, being a Moorefag was painful.
>>151554882I can't imagine how angry Moore could have been at the reveal of Dr. Manhattan being the one responsible of "creating" New 52.
Remember when they reprinted the floppies and despite the complaints, some warranted, some not, about the coloring, it was actually a lot of fun to go to the LCS every month for a "new" issue of Miracleman like you were a young bloke from 1986 innit
>>151554954I think Moore kind of just gave up in the 10s, he was obviously still angry but I think if they did it in the 90s he'd try to curse them
Remember when the Toddfather tried to bring Miracleman into the Spawn Universe?
>>151551515Marvel buying off the rights is one of the tragedies of the industry.
>>151554882Not strange, just shit. Lotta empty fake hype but the actually comics were subpar and some things were outright retarded.
>>151551515Nobody cares about Miracleman
>>151555924Plenty do. It'd be one thing if you said this about a forgotten book like The New Statesmen or Irredeemable but Miracleman is acclaimed
>>151555660The fuck? Nothing but good has come from it. We got reprints that we wouldn't have had otherwise.
>>151551756>>151551832Moore washed his hands of Miracleman when he found out Dez Skinn outright lied to him that MM was public domain. So long as Marvel never puts his name on any MM trade, he's told them they can do whatever they want with him.As for why they wanted him in the Marvel Universe? marvel spent a lot Disney's money securing the rights to Miracleman from Mick Angelo thinking it would be their holy grail of evergreen books.... Only for sales to be dismal. Toss in Neil Gaiman having exclusive usage rights to MM until he finished his trilogy and his Me Too scandal, and you have Marvel less wanting their own Doomsday Zclock and more them trying to recoup their investment in an IP that would be a huge lemon.
>>151556383>Neil Gaiman having exclusive usage rights to MM until he finished his trilogy wut
>>151554144They tried that in the 00s with Vic Sage moving to Metropolis and being Lois's BFF that Clark could not stand but then fucking Greg Rucka happened and murdered Vic for his costume identity to try and keep the shit sandwich Gotham Central going
>>151556405Yeah; part of the deal he made with Quesada in the 00s. Neil DID relent to two one offs that featured side story material but he had veto power over those stories and the second one off had Neil explicitly shit on them in the framing sequence
>>151555924Is it accurate to say that Kid Miracleman annihilating London is the most memorable part of that story?
>>151555924Moore's run is one of the few cape comics I care about. I'd like to own it in a proper format one day.
>>151556447I'd argue the rape was
>>151556446So, Marvel is more or less being forced to wait for Neal to die.
>>151556814you'll have to be more specific
Is Gaiman's silver age any good? I read golden age and thought it was boring
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>>151555634That's a handsome redesign
>>151556411Gotham Central is fantastic what are you on about? But I do think Vic dying so Renee could become The Question wasn't a great call
>>151558179>Gotham Central is fantasticeh
>>151551515Embarrassing
>>151556411We got deprived of question and superman hijinks for the sake of some fucking lesboHorrible
>>151560389Fuck Rucka
>>151557167>Is Gaiman's silver age any good? No, Gaiman can write a dystopian super society where people actually want to have cancer, hate having powers, and live in shitholes but its done poorly in comic form.its not doing a good job of showing the cracks in MM’s ideal world.and the resolution for Young MM vs MM was really stupid.
