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How would you write stella to keep her as the villain, but also make her sympathetic rather than just a hate sink to make stolas look better by comparison?
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I wouldn't make her sympathetic at all, I'd just keep doubling down on making her as unlikeable and unsympathetic as possible, because I wanna see how far I have to take it to get people to stop simping for her.
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>>151576491
Why does she need to be sympathetic?
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>>151576491
You do not have to do much, just finally fucking acknowledge that Stella had no actual choice in anything that happened. She was forced into the arranged marriage as much as Stolas was, she wasn't the actual high tier royal with the money, power, or property like Stolas, and she was forced to fuck a man she wasn't attracted to in order to get pregnant and give birth.

And what's worse is her fucking daughter looks like her husband.

She expresses all her frustration and hate on Stolas because that's literally the only agency she has in her life and it makes her feel good to see him miserable.
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>>151576633
>being rich is...LE BAD!
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>>151576491
>/co/
>WHY DO THEY KEEP MAKING FEMALE VILLAINS HECKING SAD AND SYMPATHETIC?WHATEVER HAPPENED TO REAL VILLAINS?
>also /co/
>HOW DO WE MAKE THIS FEMALE VILLAIN (WHO I PERSONALLY WANT TO FUCK) SYMPATHETIC AND DIDNDUNOTHING?
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>>151576652
Stolas is a retard who had all the money and power in the relationship, he could have divorced his cunt wife the second Octavia's egg popped out of her and raised her with whoever he wanted.
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>>151576491
Make her a strict mother, Octavia would see her as too controlling as she grows older, but Stella is preparing Octavia to deal with the Goetian system, even if she is ignoring her daughter's own plans for the future, Stella knows and fears Octavia would likely be placed in a similar predicament , she'd become domineering as the marriage between her and Stolas breaks down.
I know most folks either want her to be completely cruel or want her to be completely sympathetic, I believe a nice balanced approach is what's needed here, same goes for Stolas as well.
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I wonder if they are going to turn her into a lesbian or keep her as a straight woman
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>>151576491
How important is the pilot yo the rest of the show? Is it canon?
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>>151577398
The pilot's nothing like the rest of the show, it's about imps running a hitman business instead of gay owl soap opera
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>>151577410
It's the only episode worth a damn.
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>>151577410
Skippable?
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>>151576491
she is fiercely protective of octavia against whatever schemes ice bird has planned
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>>151577201
>I wonder if they are going to turn her into a lesbian or keep her as a straight woman

She needs to come out of the closet about being Lebanese.
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>>151577410
most of season 1 is still "imps running a hitman business"
>>151577429
no it's garbage, there's cutaway gags in cutaway gags
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how much could season 2 be improved by trimming down each episode so that each one is under 20 minutes like they were in season 1?
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Any fic updates?
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>>151579268
Just a small little teaser here>>51563878 but other than that, nothing much, you doing good Anon?
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>>151578393
>someone with actual ass doing the stupid latina dance
Me want have sex with pretty pink lady.
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>>151576491
gigantic breasts that have to be milked daily.
plus, a hopeless addiction to breast expansion
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>>151579349
As good as i can be, but i've been feeling in a reading mood and wondered if i have missed anything new
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>>151576491
That show has so much 00s deviantart emo-furry energy oozing of it that I cant believe its airing on amazon. We live in the endtimes.
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>>151579488
>One thing I would do with Stella is she's a fucking Ars Goetia so make her have POWERS! This bitch is meant to be a high class demonic entity and she has no power?
She shields Stolas and blasts apart Andrealphus’s ice with magic in Sinsmas.
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>>151579558
Disregard, for some reason I thought I read “Octavia”.
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I had a dream about an AU where everyone's human set in a divergent late Victorian Era, maybe a little bit after. Blitzo was a former Prussian artillery officer and Moxxie an Italian who got conscripted into the Austrian army as a sharpshooter, with the two meeting during a different Brother's War. Millie was a Southern Belle of the Planter aristocracy fleeing to the UK from a different Civil War, and Luna was a French orphan from the Rhineland that Blitzo took on as his kid. Stolas was a British elite who gave Blitzo resources and a mandate to lead an expedition into the Congo in the name of the Empire against some French colonization efforts. I woke up before they actually reached Rhodesia, which is where they'd begin their journey into the Basin. Not sure if I'll actually write it yet but I wanted to share cause of how weird it is. If I did, I'd focus on dark comedy aspects, like Heart of Darkness mixed with Jojo Rabbit, with maybe some Always Sunny thrown in for good measure.
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>>151576656
You're completely missing the point.

>Villain who is a giant piece of shit gets away with it and is written sympathetically because she's female
This is bad
>Villain is arguably more moral than the so called heroes, hasn't done anything particularly egregious, and yet is written like she's the worst person to have ever existed in the history of the universe because she's female (straight)
This is ALSO bad. BOTH of these are bad. You don't need to pick one.
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>>151579456
Sounds Good, I've been doing alright myself and did a few short greens here and there but work has been busy and tiring lately, I do plan on doing a short story this month if my schedule allows it.
>>151579488
Another thing to add to the list. It never did make sense why Stella or even why not all of the Goetians have at the very least some arcane powers, given that they're fallen angels or descendants of them.
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Just played Faith the Unholy Trinity. Imagine if the other high demons weren't bird beings but more fucked up like Malphas in that game. Would require Vivzie to actually make some unique designs, too much of an ask i know.
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>>151576491
How does season 2 compare to season 1? Watching s1 right now and the songs are nowhere close to Hazbin level.
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>>151579617
This almost sounds like a Sharpe fanfic/spin-off.
>Not sure if I'll actually write it yet but I wanted to share cause of how weird it is.
Do it, I'll admit it sounds strange but that's part of the charm to it, I've written my own short stories so I'm sure you'll do fine, Anon.
Plus, it could branch out into its own world rather than an AU.
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Still kind of surprised HILTLH(H) had Stella let Octavia go and save Stolas.
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the problem with stolas is that they lay it on too thick. back in the days of loo loo land /co/ actually liked stolas and thought he was sympathetic
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>>151579871
>back in the days of loo loo land /co/ actually liked stolas and thought he was sympathetic
Yep. Been following the show since 2020 and can confirm. Loo Loo Land was a big shock cause it added some depth to a character whose whole gag was being horny. Then Brandon Rogers had to turn Stolas into his husbando, and well, the rest is history.

Props to Brandon for getting his fanfic out there to millions, I suppose.
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>>151579769
Oh wow I didn't even think about Sharpe, good call. I might have to rewatch some of it to get a handle on the vibe.
>Do it, I'll admit it sounds strange but that's part of the charm to it
Nice to hear the idea has something to it. Picrel is actually not too far off from how I might imagine the fashion of the alternate IMP crew.
>I've written my own short stories
Anything in particular to share?
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>>151579939
>Anything in particular to share?
Yes, though it isn't HH or HB related should I provide a link or just give a tldr of what I've done so far?Plus I feel embarrassed.
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>>151580024
Depends on the subject matter I suppose, anon. Tl;dr first.
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>>151580063
One short story is more or less an introduction to the six characters I primarily focus on and the setting(kind of), though it was me testing the waters. The other is about said characters being properly introduced to the reader during a mission at a corrupted church, seeking and destroying an incubi nest that is making cambions.
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>>151580297
Who were six characters like, roughly speaking?
>incubi nest that is making cambions
Incubi? Anon, no!
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how many people here would waifu stolas if he were female instead?
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>>151580405
>Who were six characters like, roughly speaking?
Without giving major spoilers to their backgrounds.
1. A country gentleman turned Confederate cavalryman who ran away from his estate that he was going to inherent, died during battle.
2. A half-Italian half-Ethiopian aristocratic swashbuckling tomboy raised in Great Britain by a Welsh uncle, committed suicide.
3. A runaway farmer chick who joins the ranks in the Spanish civil war, bled to death via gunshot wounds.
4. A runaway ranch hand turned bandit who gets shot after a failed train robbery, bled to death via gunshot wound.
5. A Russian imperial officer who perished during the Ice march(First Kuban Campaign), Hypothermia.
6. A family man who died during a cave in he caused after a brief fracas, Smoke inhalation.
>Incubi? Anon, no!
The Incubi were killed with extreme prejudice.
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>>151580859
Yes but I'd go for Strika in regards of the rule 63 AU.
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>>151576491
I'm looking at the season 1 soundtrack on Spotify and it has some songs at the end that wasn't in the season like Cotto Candy and Buzzzn, where are these songs from? The Asmodeus episode was the season finale for me.
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>>151579923
I really liked Stolas when he was guilty of obliterating his family to chase a fuck, the thing Ozzie was congratulating him for as this awesome figure representing the sin of lust. This framed the demon prince as loving seeing his sin being enacted upon, with all the damage involved with it using Stella and Octavia as the examples of who was hurt by his choices, and Stolas himself being notably ashamed for it.

Stolas' wife clearly didn't really love him but he ruined her reputation among the other royals which was the only good thing she got from their arrangement. Her throwing a fit was fine, and given the protagonists are assassins for hire and the setting is ACTUAL HELL Stella calling Stolas' would-be assassin while he sits in front of her eating breakfast and mostly ignoring her fuming both made sense and was funny as fuck, it was as if hiring an assassin to kill your cheating husband was as normal as hiring a divorce lawyer in Hell which again makes a lot of sense.

He was wrong in some ways but he was sympathetic too, looking for actual connection in someone else that he just didn't have at home. It was leagues better and more mature than the lengths Vivzie and Rogers went to make Stolas a total complete victim which just made him more unlikable as he and the narrative insists he did nothing wrong and he doesn't deserve any kind of punishment or repercussion because it's cosmically unfair to him.
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>>151581240
It really is a shame the wasted potential the show and HH really are, the show is at the helm of two immature(and likely immoral) individuals that surround themselves with yes men.
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>tall
>beautiful
>rich
>loving and loyal
>kinky
>wants to please
>...is a lesbian
so close to perfection
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>>151581708
It's not a total loss, I prefer her mother anyway.
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>>151576491
I wonder what are her brother's plans from now on
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>>151581901
its pretty obvious, really
>groom octaiva
>turn her and stella against eachother
>either marry her off to another goetia of a higher status so hed get to keep her property, marry her himself or kill her and take it all
>dispose of stella when she outlives her usefulness
its not in his interest to have her inherit her fathers job and wealth, unless he can leech off of her
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>>151577434
In the grand scheme of things, but let’s be real, it’s kinda why most of us started to give a shit.
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>>151577614
octavia not being raised the same way stolas and stella were should be brought up more.

she's not got any arranged marriage prospects, she has her own modern casual fashion instead of their formal attire, she's been taught magic by stolas (stella has nothing going for her but looks), and she's entirely left out of the social standing focused parties stella throws, when you'd think stella would be parading her daughter around to show off what a good mother she is and fishing for a big suitor, by her own desires or andre's plots.

either this was led by stolas and stella didn't feel strongly enough to stop him (which is unlikely given my previous point), or it was the one thing they unequivocally agreed on - they didn't want her to have their childhoods. they didn't want her to be powerless, and they didn't want her forced into an unloving marriage.
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Blitzo giving the little goat the horns sign through the portal was so cute.
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>>151576652
She technically isn't rich. By the show's standards, she's just property.
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she kinda bad tho....
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>>151582964
She's a female Goetian, Anon, they all are.
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>>151581987
I think you are giving to much credit to viv....
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>>151583171
thats how shed write him if she had any writing skill and eye for intrigue
but yeah, whats more likely to happen is that hes just gonna be stereotypically evil with little to no deeper thought behind his actions other than ”he hates poor stowas”
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>>151584004
How many times is Octavia going to trip over things?
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>>151576491
I been on and off these threads for a while now, probably since the last season ended with stolas btfo.
How come stella is now the prevalent waifu in these threads now, it used to be loona back then but since the season ended there was a steady shift to stella, im not complaining really, i actually like stella but back then her presence in the threads was negligible but now is the prevalent force taking loona's character as the most posted character.
What happen?
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>>151584066
she didnt trip, thats just how she sleeps
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>>151584148
>De-sodomizes your gay demon show
What now
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>>151584236
it's still sodomy if it's 2 women
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>>151584384
Thats clearly normal stolas, though
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>>151584077
Because Loona threads kept attracting some unscrupulous characters in these threads.
>>151584082
>Constantly trip over Octavia, forgetting she sleeps on the floor.
>You carry her to bed when you wake up in the morning or before you turn to bed for the night.
>This becomes a regular nightly routine.
>You're slightly annoyed by this trivial mundanity but you don't stop doing this little "ritual."
>She enjoys it, she gets a good night sleep regardless where she sleeps and her getting picked up makes her feel like she's levitating.
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>>151584455
I hate the fleshlight merchant. I want to Loonapost.
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>>151584454
Still sodomy since he can't get an imp pregnant so any sex they do would be sodomy.
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>>151584478
When it comes to hellhounds, I only have converted Loona pics, some Gigi and a FemTex shitpost I made.
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I feel like the little lore bit that there are nine circles in Pride is neat, but it's never utilized beyond distinguishing Imp City, Pentagram City, and the Goetic Circle (and even then IC and PC are almost indistinguishable beyond Hellborn/Sinners being the majority). It's JK Rowling tier.
If I had to expand on some of them, even just a little
>One of them is 24/7 war all the time, with multiple different factions of Sinners and Hellborn duking it out at all times, either for futile attempts at dominion over their Circle, or simply because they adore the concept of violence itself and seek it out.
>A circle that acts as an actual punishment and prison for extremely dangerous demons who would threaten the status quo and Sinners who got too cocky and overstepped their bounds. Also an icy hellscape that Andre happens to have a vacation home at.
>A Circle that's a more benevolent attempt at recreating Heaven by Fallen Angels, but only a recreation. Basically the whole "Make a Heaven out of Hell" thing with fake blue skies and plastic trees and whatnot.
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>>151584517
>he can't get an imp pregnant
Who's to say he can't? It's not like she's sterile
There already are imp/succubus and imp/shark hybrids, so why would imp/goetia ones be impossible?
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>>151584693
because bird reproduction is different
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>>151584722
Anon, they are ficfional characters, they arent real, they can have any genitals you want them to
If i had a coin for every time i saw art of a blitzo/stolas kid when both of them are males or art of eggnant stolas i would be rich enough to buy myself a house in america
Lets just say he has normal human male genitalia in this AU and leave it at that
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>>151584878
Fictional characters in a setting where their genitals are explicitly described.
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>>151584666
>One of them is 24/7 war all the time, with multiple different factions of Sinners and Hellborn duking it out at all times, either for futile attempts at dominion over their Circle, or simply because they adore the concept of violence itself and seek it out.
While not like an actual war, it'd still be a complete and total deathmatch with no real winner, with even the Hellborn and Sinners going against each other, all by design of course, to prevent a full scale war or any attempts at a power grab from either party or the Sins.
>A circle that acts as an actual punishment and prison for extremely dangerous demons who would threaten the status quo and Sinners who got too cocky and overstepped their bounds
Sounds like the Ring of Despair idea, where the most vile and cruel are placed in, ran by Sinners and Hellborn, like a Gulag where there are no rules yet ran strictly as if there are any.
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>>151584722
>Stolas ask you to be surrogate for Blitza
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>>151584898
His genitals are never described, shitzo just calls it a bird pussy, because he is a crass, vulgar subhuman
We dont know if a goetia cloaca is a multi purpose hole or a penis pouch
Besides, if they had cloacas like actual birds do, they would need to wear a diaper 24/7, because birds dont have anal sphincters
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>>151584974
he mentions cloaca twice in the shorts
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>>151576550
Fuck off Vivzie
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>>151584981
We dont know what vivzie means my "cloaca"
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>>151585037
what else could cloaca possibly mean when presented as the third option after cock and pussy
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>>151584455
And the Stella threads have prevent that?
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>>151585143
I'm not fully sure, Anon. Maybe they migrated to other threads, the HH threads(for the moment) or maybe /hhg/ or /trash/ in general.
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>>151585055
>what else could cloaca possibly mean
Pic related
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>>151584693
I think I wanna plap that soot rat...
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>>151585467
Surely, you wouldn't cuck your bird bro, would you?
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>>151585467
Go ahead, Anon, the Imps are free, you can just pick them up.
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>>151585506
On one hand you're cucking Stolas, but your bro needs a surrogate, Blitza is having baby fever, but it's Blitza.
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>>151576491
I wouldn't. She's perfect as a woman in an arranged marriage to a gay man she hates. The only thing I would change is that she actually was trying to keep things civil and maintain a facade for the Goetia that Stolas fucked up by airing his gay imp-fucking affair with Blitzo.
Also, she'd fuck Human Men after the scandal comes out, because I know that would get Anon asses in seats.
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>>151586154
I love when Moxxie gets actually serious. He's such a cute fella.
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>>151586253
He's an adorable little scamp.
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>>151586301
The subtle storytelling with him is so good, I love how he politely argues and stands up for himself. I hope he shoots his dad in the head
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>>151584948
I was imagining the prison-Circle as being similar to the Ninth Circle from the Divine Comedy. As in, primarily populated by Giants and the like. With the lore reason being that they (alongside their Watcher masters like Azazel and Samyaza) were wiped out in the Flood and effectively started a War in Hell where every Sinner had to deal with an entire army of half-demons with the strength to rival Overlords individually. The entire "Sinners can only stay in Pride" rule was made specifically because you had 50 foot tall monstrosities walking around Wrath turning Imps inside out for fun.
Barring that there would of course be Sinners who think they're hot shit (for instance, a Sinner managing to take complete control of one of Pride's Circles, attempting assault on a Goetia, or one trying to actively start shit with Heaven) and Goetia who have committed sins that even Satan cannot alleviate, such as regicide. Barring that there's almost nobody populating it, save for Satan's Reapers, who have a 9-5 of poking those imprisoned with hot, barbed sticks and whatnot.
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>>151586742
Give that lil bastard a revolver and let him go ham.
>>151586975
Are you writing this down anywhere Anon, for a fanfic or a story of your own?
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>>151586734
He just wanted cheese
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>>151587326
I was thinking about doing a fanfic where Stolas gets dragged around by his brother Andras because he thinks he's a pussy who likes being dominated by imps and thus he needs to man him up. I might include most of that shit in there if I'm being real.
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>>151587640
He just wanted cheese(from an imp's dick)
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>anon ends up as stolas' apprentice after some /x/ shenanigans
>He meets the rest of the cast and quickly befriends (most of) them
>Loona introduced him to tex and her gang, with which he gets along swimmingly
>Thing is, anon is a bigot
>As in, a huge one
>Really hates blacks, jews, mexicans etc
>One day the gang decide to go to earth and hang out and invite anon along for the ride
>They don their disguises
...
>"Something wrong, anon?"
"Tex, why are you a nigger?"
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>>151587647
Do it, sounds quite promising, Anon, I wish you luck on your fic.
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Good night bros, im going to bed
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>>151588150
Good night, Anon, sleep well.
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anyone got any draw requests? I'm bored and I want to draw something HB related
>>151588150
goodnight anon
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>>151588161
Draw octavia and anon cuddling on the bed while reading a book, either one for each or one for both of them
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>>151579639
>>Villain is arguably more moral than the so called heroes, hasn't done anything particularly egregious, and yet is written like she's the worst person to have ever existed in the history of the universe because she's female (straight)
That doesn't describe Stella.
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>>151588161
Draw Moxxie reading a Soldier of Fortune magazine or Stolas smoking a tobacco pipe.
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>le sympathy
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>>151576491
Add a scene where she pleasures herself to the thought of killing Stolas for ten minutes straight
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>>151576550
Stolas is a classist creep, imo harasser, that helped the system in raping her. Yeah apparently they both raped eachother thanks vivienne
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>>151585008
>>151588854
I will have Stella murder Octavia right in front of Stolas, solely to spite him, and then I'll have fun watching you try to convince yourselves that Stella is still the sympathetic one.
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>>151579617
Ah, finally. Real Autism.
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>>151581987
Octavia beat the hell out of her uncle, I don't think he's so stupid to make her turn against him
So he'll do the best he can go make her and her mom stay as close as possible
And if I had really will try to get rid of Stella once I doesn't need her anymore I think Octavia will have something to say about it
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>>151576550
You cant
If shes a demon then her being more unabashedly evil changes nothing.
Its like saying, what if i make this angel more genuinely good surely people will hate them then
You cant hate the villain for being villainous
But you can hate the supposed heroes for being pieces of shit and expecting the audience to like them
Stella accidentally, through Vivzies own incompetence became likeable by not being a crybaby sad sack who pretended everything was terrible.
She was just as forced into the marriage as Stolas was, but he could divorce her whenever he wanted apparently since it was one phone call and she was kicked out. Showing he had all the power and the worst she could do was yell at him and make him miserable and there was one failed asassination attempt
All it did was show her trapped with a husband who never loved her and she could do nothing while he destroyed her reputation
None of that was planned by vivzie which makes it that much funnier
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>>151589025
>he could divorce her whenever he wanted

Exactly I have never understood this! why staying with a woman he has never liked?? just for the sake of his daughter?!!with great results though she ended pretty depressed and sad all her life!!
Although I don't think that it was always bad between them, cause Octavia once said they used to be happy!!
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>>151588172
Okay, please tell me, objectively, how she's worse than the literal assassins for hire?

And no, "she was mean to my heckin gay uwu stolas!!!" does not count as worse.
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>>151576491
I wouldn't. Bitch deserves death by imp fucking
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>>151588191
Done. Imagine he's sitting on a couch or something.
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>>151588170
They passed out
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>>151588161
Can you draw Stella having a cup of tea and looking like she's actually enjoying herself
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>>151589272
This is incredible, thank you Anon.
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>>151589272
>>151589280
based
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>>151588161
Stella pantyshot
Dubs and she skins Bejita alive
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>>151580960
Oh so they're all undead? What "brought them back"? Are they all from the same era or different ones?
>>151588980
Believe me I'm not particularly proud of it.
>>151589184
Anon, she literally hired an assassin to murder Stolas, plus she conspired with Andre to frame Blitz and co for said assassination attempts. IMP are evil, of course, but Stella is a total cunt as well. Her lack of evil actions is more due to the writers being lazy and not wanting to show her actually doing stuff than her having morals. I mean, what does she even actually "believe" in beside her own pride and pleasure? Andre has more character and motivation than her, which is hilarious desu.
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>>151589280
Wholesome
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>>151590622
>Oh so they're all undead?
Indeed they are.
>What "brought them back"? Are they all from the same era or different ones?
All from different eras mostly and their souls were sent to Purgatory upon death rather than Heaven or Hell.
>Believe me I'm not particularly proud of it.
There have been worse things that have been posted in these threads, don't be harsh on yourself, Anon.
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>>151590856
Very nice.
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>>151576604
I agree.
Women should be hated by everyone without condition.
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>>151591007
you're getting SUFFERING
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>>151589280
imagine how soft and fluffy she must be...
i wonder what she would smell like
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>>151591527
When will they be happy?
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>>151590622
>Anon, she literally hired an assassin to murder Stolas,
"Because she hired assassins, Stella is worse than the assassins for hire"
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>>151591007
Even the male ones?
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>>151591723
>imagine how soft and fluffy she must be...
Ever felt a fresh warm blanket that just got out of the dryer, that's what cuddling up with a Goetian feels like, Anon.
>I wonder what she would smell like
Like the fresh fall air out in the forest, with a hint of lavender.
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>>151592138
I know you asked it, but I wasn't trying to say Stella is worse than IMP, just that she's by no means squeaky clean and is in the same ballpark as them in all honesty. Also, yes it is actually worse to try and kill your husband for no good reason than to be an assassin for hire against total strangers, and most people agree with this logic. The latter is an immoral job, yes, but the former is trying to kill someone you personally know. That's why it's worse for a guy to, say, physically beat his wife than it is for him to partake in the invasion of another country as a solider.
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>>151592307
>to try and kill your husband for no good reason
You mean the arranged husband? The arranged husband she was forced to marry? The same husband who was a gay man she was bound to for life, and publicly humiliated her by cheating with a random imp?
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>>151592369
None of those are good reasons to kill someone. Especially not the father of your daughter who cares about him and would be distraught.
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>>151592411
Okay, but how is that less evil than actually literally murdering innocent people for no reason other than a paycheck, again? Stella has plenty of reasons to want to kill Stolas (who is btw a shit dad who cares far more about his imp lover than octavia), but the IMPs do it solely for the money.
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>>151592582
It's more evil to do wrong to people you personally know because there's an expected level of trust and vulnerability. Stolas was a shit husband and Stella a shit wife, but he never tried to get her killed. And again, as I said, they're both Octavia's parents and she's obviously going to be hurt by his death, which is confirmed in Mastermind. Stella's reasons are not sufficient to justify her actions. IMP are also evil, but they aren't betraying any personal trust or relationship when they do their hits. To give another example, Crimson is obviously evil, and while his general actions such as killing and extorting people are wrong, it's clear that his greatest evil is the abuse he dished out to his wife and son. What's worse for Octavia is she did what she did solely out of spite and pride. At least Andre had a higher ambition of raising the status of his family/clan. Not saying that makes it right, but there's more than just pure self-centered indulgence going on his head.
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>>151592741
>It's more evil to do wrong to people you personally know because there's an expected level of trust and vulnerability.
This would only be true if Stolas had even the barest scrap of an actual relationship with him. Killing Innocent people who did nothing wrong is far worse than that.
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>>151576491
I want her.
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>>151592215
I will impreg him.
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>*does a gay little dance that makes you look at him*
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>>151593098
Hmm, it's a silly little dance.
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>>151593232
thats not a dance, thats barely even a jig
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>>151593353
Real Stolas would love it
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>>151593621
I did love that wiggle Mayberry did, it was quite cute.
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>>151576550
This would actually be an interesting character because you'd have to make her relevant and keep her alive to make it work.
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>>151593867
I have too much stuff already but I would be tempted.
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>>151588869
As if Vivienne's flagship could survive actual edge content.
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>>151593867
Why not snuggle with the real Belphegor?
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>>151594096
I doubt they have the boldness to kill off Stella, let alone Octavia and hell, Stolas didn't even come close to killing Andre.
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>>151596006
>Loona loves cats
Would this mean Loona would adore SinnerTwo?
https://youtu.be/vEtbfzMLVWU
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>>151596103
>Loona loves cats
would be pretty ironic, but i can see it happening
>Would this mean Loona would adore SinnerTwo?
nah, they would hate each other, but she would go ”aww, whos a pretty kitty?” to get into her head
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>>151576550
You fool, that would only make me love her move.
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>>151592741
That's fucking retarded. The mental gymnastics of Stolas apologists bogles the mind.
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>>151596360
>”aww, whos a pretty kitty?
>"Anon, your bitch is acting up again"
>One an Anon have to take time to break them up and calm them down, again.
>>151596497
I don't think he's a "Stolas apologist" and I don't think his argument is completely wrong either, I won't say more to avoid the possibility of derailing the thread.
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>>151596934
fag colored
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could IMP handle them?
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>>151576652
>LE BAD!
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>>151596006
>>151596103
>Loona dates human Anon
>through a series of shenanigans he is mauled by tigers
>becomes a cat in hell
>on one hand, Loona can't keep her hands and snoot off of him
>on the other, he's a fucking furry
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>>151596497
What exactly is wrong with what I said? It's a manifestly obvious standard most abide by. Refute the Crimson example.
>>151596789
I'm definitely not a Stolas apologist. He's fucked up a ton. I don't care for Stolitz at all actually.
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>>151598138
>I'm definitely not a Stolas apologist. He's fucked up a ton. I don't care for Stolitz at all actually.
I'm of a similar stance, Stolitz could have worked if Brandon could've controlled the pacing, didn't pat his own back and didn't make a big deal about it.
>>151598076
She looks like shehas a nice collection of books, nerdy birdy.
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>>151576491
I just watched the show and loved it. I don't understand how whenever I see it get brought up on here, it's so hated.
And how is the song quality so different between this and Hazbin?
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>>151599053
everything popular gets haters. especially something that really is only actually making something for a niche audience really and just happened to get popular outside of it despite that.

>And how is the song quality so different between this and Hazbin?
Hazbin is just much different in tone in general, the whole thing is very blatantly broadway inspired where everyone sings the plot as part of the narrative while Helluva it's only certain characters. Helluva would be pretty weird if Blitzo sang every episode.
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>>151599710
Embiggening Two but Rumpus, imagine
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>>151599922
Two's posterior is already state of the art, no upgrade is needed.
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>>151600935
>The Millie plush that sucks your dick and calls you gay.
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>>151601171
The plushie drinks all of your alcohol, calls you queer then cuddles with you in your sleep.
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>>151601037
I need the HILTLH(H) version with Blitzo wearing a shirt that says “I love having no grandchildren”
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Do they still have magic in the pirateverse or is it just guns?
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>>151602610
We do have this.
>>151602649
I think they still have arcane abilities, maybe they could infuse their firearms with them.
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So do you think Vassago is one of Paimons other sons or just friends with Stolas?
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>>151603091
Likely the latter.
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Going to bed, good night all
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>>151603624
Good night, Anon
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>>151576491
>You can't
Not in SEASON FUCKING 3 after 2 seasons of being a 1 track brainless shit.
Anything they do will feel fake and tacked on like a fucking tragic backstory DLC justifying her personality.
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>>151602916
The fluffiest~
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>>151604997
Sure you can, you just have to recontextualize what we already know. Which is pretty fucking easy considering everyone has already pointed out that Stella is literally a financial and political asset for her family rather than a person.
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>you hook up with octavia
BUT
>her dad doesnt like you
what would you do? How could you get the zesty owl man to accept you?
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>>151607278
>"All things considered Mr Goetia, I'm actually pretty good at keeping secrets."

>"Even if those secrets were inclined to drive you mad with the infinite knowledge of the cosmos, secrets that a mortal couldn't hope to even have a chance at comprehending?"

>"Yeah maybe."

>"Hmph. At least you're braver than most."
>No accounting for your intelligence though.
>"What was that?"

>"Nothing for you to worry your little brain about."
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>>151607054
I wanna hold hands with Loona! :D and fuck her into submission
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>>151607412
>stolas is not outright hostile to anon, but he is very condescending, even moreso than he usually is
>kinda treats him like his daughters pet rather than her boyfriend
>slowly over the course of the show, he proves that he is actually a very capable and somewhat cunning individual
>figures out peoples weaknesses fairly quickly and exploits them
>like one time when he got into an argument with shitzo and immediately disintegrated him by attacking his ego
>he has spared his gfs dad the brunt of his vitriol, though
>until the point when he literally betrays her for the sake of a subhuman
>next time anon sees the bird man he tears him apart
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>>151607592
He'd be a catty cunt on the side but at the end of the day he won't be able to shake the fact that his daughter likes you.
Unless he gets really petty and starts scheming. But I doubt he'd go that far on his own. He loves Octavia too much.
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>>151576491
>>151608474
i just noticed, octavia actually has those sharp eye marks in this AU
is there more to it?
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>>151607054
>>151607456
Slopfags are such bottomfeeders
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>>151610265
>Bearded stolas
So even demons can experience twink death?
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>>151610364
He's like 36 he's not a twink he's just fancy
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>>151610587
>He's like 36
Just because hes old doesnt mean hes not a twink
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>>151610587
Foppish.
>>151610265
He looks stupid with a beard but at the same time it's an improvement.
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Can Stellafags explain why their only "she was forced into marriage" argument has any merit? It would make sense if he was abusive to her, but he's been nothing but nice to her.
>He cheated
If she doesn't love him, why care?
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>>151611126
Stellafags are as dumb as she is
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>>151611126
an arranged marriage is indeed being forced to marry
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>>151608899
Cute.
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The 30th chapter of HILTLH(H) is up. Hope you all enjoy.

https://archiveofourown DOT org/works/65989972/chapters/197125171
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>>151612350
Fuck, forgot to spoiler the image. Oh well. Here's the "crashout" as well.
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>>151612350
Kino, any plans to have the scene where loona fights him in her wolf form drawn as well?
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>>151612741
so jealous of moxxie getting to ride loona as a mount
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>>151612741
No plans for that, so far. Would be an interesting commission.
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>>151612251
Finally some good fucking news.
>>151612350
>>151612451
And some good fucking art.
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>>151579617
What about an AU where the entire Continent of Europe in the year 1914 gets teleported to Hell somehow, with Specific parts of the Continent ending up in different rings, like the German Empire ending up in Wrath or France ending up in Pride. And no everyone doesnt become sinners, they're still human. But if they die and are a naughty boy then end up back in Hell as if nothing happened as a Sinner.
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>>151613173
How long till the Habsburgs and Goetias start fucking and make a new abominable race of nobility?
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>>151612251
i'm currently at chapter 11, did i miss something or did the whole business with anon and vortex come out of nowhere?
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>>151612251
I want to read this, but I swore to myself after being mindbroken from Attack on Titan and Jojolion's endings I will not read a story that isn't finished. How many more chapters do you think there will be?
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>>151613873
Admittedly, yes. I did a bit of a “tell rather than show” with Anon and Loona hanging out with him before. If I were to go back and add something in, it’d be one of those hangouts. Vortex has been a bit of a gym buddy with Anon since the party.
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What are the chances he gets a highlight episode in Season 3 or 4 / redemption ?
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>>151613915
Maybe 10, if less.
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>>151614669
Oh, nice!
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AAAAAAAAAA
SHE’S SO CUUUUUUUUUTE
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>>151612251
it's over
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>>151612350
>the question mark on Anon’s head
>the dot is the eye
Kino
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>>151614969
Trust the bird
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>>151612251
I know you indicated that the next few chapters would be bleak, and I'm not sure if I'm a giant pussy or not, but this was genuinely a heartbreaking read. It's absolutely great, but still I'm gonna be fucked up until the next chapter somehow resolves this
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>>151576491
I bought the stella plushie during that large sale theyre doing
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>>151612251
>"Woah! Royalty?! In my store?!" sasquatch like sinner
Mild typo. Damn this was bleak. Very nice but man you got me fucked up. I hope you have a huge amount of sweetness planned for when they get out of this.... they are going to get out of this, right? Right?
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>>151612251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-LHqF8asIw
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>>151593098
There was some cosplayer who dressed as fizz at galaxycon richmond this past year who kept going to every panel i went to and interrupting it with his shitty fizz impression and even got kicked out multiple times. It was annoying as shit i hate people who are more autistic then me
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>>151615151
Right?
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>>151614953
Sharing candy with Loona.
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>>151604131
Adorable.
>>151607052
Want more Moxanne, Anon?
>>151608086
Here you go, Anon.
>>151611468
Very nice.
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>>151576491
Trapped by her uppercrust obligations.
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>>151576491
Make her an actual mother who cares about her daughter. You can be evil, hate the character the audience is supposed to feel for and still be a loving parent. In fact the audience loves those kind of characters. Look at darth vader, guy was a psycho and a horror but he was really proud of luke.
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All these comments talking about how bleak the new chapter is make me glad I quit reading it.
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This show made me start listening to kesha more
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>>151615237
I trust there'll be light at the end of the tunnel
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>>151615253
Same. Bee is cute.
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>>151615237
I'm in too deep though 70% has been suffering
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>>151615354
Don't let him harvest your loosh anon.
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>>151615326
Yup.

I'm still pissed Vivziepop nuked her entire Deviantart.
I didn't get to save ANY of it.
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>>151615377
I have to believe there will be something happy or all of this would have been for nothing
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>>151612251
The more I read about this Inco fellow, the more I don't care for him.
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>>151615555
Nice quads.
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>>151615555
Checked.
>>151616013
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>>151615739
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>>151616687
She's such an interesting character. She really has the best and worst traits of someone like that as opposed to say Ozzy who's basically the ideal best possible version he could be or Mammon being only negative traits.
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>>151616013
I'm not a furry I'm not a furry I'm not a furry
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>>151617226
personally i would say you're only a furry if you have a fursona of some kind or RP. just wanting to fuck a furry that's obviously meant to be conventionally attractive isn't really furry
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>>151576652
Assuming this show treated it's upper class families like some of the ones in our world did back in the day, yeah, she's rich, but at each point in her life...
>the wealth/power belong to their parents
>if the parents are dead, it goes to the eldest son (so her brother now has everything)
>she's forced to fuck someone she doesn't like, give birth, and just be a socialite
>even after the fallout of the trial she STILL doesn't own everything since all of Stolas' stuff transferred to her brother
>if she and her brother ever had a fall out, he could kick her to the curve, as she served her purpose (making the baby)
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>>151617322
Really goes to show she got the short end of the stick and would explain her unhinged behavior, at worse she was forced to become nothing more than a fancy/glorified whore for Stolas.
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>>151617708
Honestly the show could have played with that angle, a little girl who grew up knowing she was going to be nothing more than a baby maker, so she begins lashing out at those she knows can't fight back, because the ones who can (parents, brother, the Sins) could easily kill her. But at the same time, she's letting said negative emotions hinder her being a good mother to someone completely innocent in it all.
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>>151617855
Indeed and if the marriage simply had a falling out, it would have made Stolas, Stella and Octavia sympathetic to tragic characters rather than the exaggerated, one dimensional and half-baked characters the shows portrays them as.
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Would you get Loona painted on your car?
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>>151619277
God no.
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Loona is cute!!!!!!!
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>>151579557
Amazon legit needs this to stand out from their competitors, whom are screwing up by the way. It does help to speed out their output.
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>>151576491
Her helping Striker to heal and trying to act racist and high class about it to hide her own feelings.
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>>151619411
She has competition.
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>>151617226
You will be.
>>151619359
Classic picture.
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>>151620335
Seems unlikely but Paimon actually being a sincere and attentive grandparent would be cute.
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Sex with avian women
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>>151621268
Romantic love with avian women
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>>151620370
would
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>>151621373
>pic
Literally me and my taste on women. Need me a stella of a niffty in my life rn
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>>151621278
It's pretty cool to feel taller in this instance.
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>>151617226
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what if stella was mexican instead of british?
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>>151623885
What if she was Scottish instead of British
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>>151623885
MR ADVERTISER GET DOWN
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>>151623885
Mexican you say?
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>>151581240
Fucking thank you.
I expressed my disappointment with this to the two friends who forced me to watch the show in the first place and they gave me the fluoride stare.
Degen Stolas is so much more interesting and nuanced than completely innocent punching bag Stolas.
The flashbacks to Stella being COMICALLY EVIL toward him, and Blitz being his one and only true love from childhood, truly made me check out of the series altogether.
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>>151625262
When is the verosika doll gonna ship?
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>>151612251
Man I really hope Anon has a Doom Slayer moment.
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>>151626471
hes more likely to have a DMC dante moment, all things considered
i mean his powered up state, not the sword/gun combo
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>>151626545
Ok then I hope Loona gets a Doom Slayer moment.
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>>151576491
She makes being bulled by a British bitch seem appealing...
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whats your favorite solas design?
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>>151626321
I have a custom plush and the official daki of her so I dunno.
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>>151627909
Based waifu autist, we walk a similar path.
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>>151623885
She'd be similar to Voltura from El Tigre.
>>151625768
Not bad, face needs to look a little more feminine.
>>151621278
Indeed.
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>>151627227
Chiz draws the best designed Solas, Sagi_Star does some great rule 63 and draws an absolutely wonderful Mayberry.
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Octavia is the dog?
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>>151615739
e2livia fucked him up
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>>151630272
I wanna see an interaction between Fang, Olivia, Loona and Octavia.
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>>151630318
Octavia would get along with fang at first, but fang would start to loathe her, because she is everything SHE makes herself out to be
Essentially, fang is a fraud by comparison and her problems are made up
Loona and fang would get along better, mostly because loona is chill and keeps her shit bottled
Octavia and olivia would be interesting, they would get along fine i think, talking about art and taxidermy, they also have similar deadpan humor
Olivia and loona wouldnt really have anything in common
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>>151630451
Sweet Bee
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Hey bro, have you heard!?!
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>>151630451
I bet her spit taste like sweet honey
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>>151630759
>Did you hear, did you hear? Don't tell Paul Revere!

No, anon. I have not heard.
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>>151630415
Anon nailed it, this is pretty much how they would interact, how would endings Three or Four Fang an Olivia get along with Octavia and Loona?
>>151630637
Will she say it?
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>>151630759
What's with the Uoooh emotes?
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>>151630837
She absolutely would. It's the reason she's been banned from the Mammon Comedy Club for the last millenia.
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>>151576633
Yeah, I don't think they have to turn it around and say she was ever super sweet, but the complete lack of acknowledgement that she was forced into an arranged loveless marriage just like Stolas is a weirdly lazy choice.

Cersei Lannister was an evil bitch but they still had the awareness to give her nuance when touching upon her bitterness in being politically sold off like breeding stock.
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How do you nerds see Warlock Anon dressing? Is he all casual and shit or does he get Robepilled?
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>>151631316
>Dresses like an absolute glowie.
>Is a total magic anarchist.
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>>151631316
He'd go with the robe, not sure about the hat.
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>>151631316
normal clothes with a bathrobe over them
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>>151631826
>He "borrows" Stolas' bathrobe.
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>>151631316
Normal clothes unless he is doing a ritual, he mostly wears a long thin jacket reminiscent of a wizard/warlock coat that helps him blend in better when on earth
I'd imagine something like this with a hoodie, pretty much snoot anon's green jacket but longer
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I hope Striker will come back.
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>>151632218
>Anon, one cold morning, decides to cover himself in something nice and cozy
>Finds the rack where the owl family keep their robes
>He woke up before them and so they are all placed where the birds had left them the day prior
>He starts thinking
>Octavia's robe is the best fitting one for him, but what sort of gentleman would he be if he stole the girl's clothes?
>And he wont even consider stella's on the chance that she might outright murder him for touching it
>This leaves only stolas' robe
>He figures his master wont mind sharing it, right?
>He realized the robe is a bit too big for him as he puts it on, dragging across the floor like the cape of a geriatric king, but it sure does warm him up
>It also smells...odd
>Its intoxicatingly sweet, most likely from all the conditioners and other assorted chemicals the goetian patriarch likes to slather himself in, but it also has an odd hint of sourness
>He hopes its not from what he thinks it might be
>After a while the girls show up as well
>Stella laughs mockingly, telling him that he fills it in better than her twink husband ever could, but octavia is having more of an innocent giggle
>It did help that he made a joke, asking her if he looked "roit propah" while striking a royal pose
>Then he hears big bird finally showing up, at long last
>"Octavia, dear, have you seen my robe? I can't seem to find it anywhe-"
>Then he rounds the corner and sees him, in all his glory
>He locks eyes with him and gives him the smuggest, biggest shit eating grin he can muster
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>>151633030
Very nice.
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>>151630759
All the stolitz shit is ruining the series. Let Brandon write more episodes.
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>>151633059
What a dish.
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>>151630849
Anon you know the crying emoji can be used for more than just express cunny right?
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>>151630837
>Will she say it?
Soft a or hard R?

>>151630769
And what about her...lady juices?
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>>151633073
>Let Brandon write more episodes
You do realize he's the one pushing stolitz, right?
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>>151633162
Indeed.
>>151633205
The hard R along with words involving the ones that wear coffee filters on their heads.
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>>151633229
The one episode he wrote completely by himself didn't involve Stolas at all. Stolitz is a yaoi couple with a manlet top. Only a straight woman could write that trash.
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>>151632813
This nigga stylish...
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>>151576491
All i want is stella genuinely loving octavia and her cunt brother trying to marry her off like they did to her is what makes her change a bit
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>>151633773
>All i want is stella genuinely loving octavia and her cunt brother trying to marry her off like they did to her is what makes her change a bit
That seems like a decent scene to add, it adds some sort of variety, makes her a little more human if only by a little.
She can recognize herself in that moment which would make her decide against Octavia having the same fate as her.

Real talk though, Stella's character is kinda set in motion now, I'm afraid were not gonna be able to see her depicted more favorably in the future.
Still, it is fun to imagine a better version of her character in the mind's eye.

>>151633404
>Indeed
I feel like her design carried a lot of weight around here until we realized that was more for her character to offer aside from being the evil ditz she was made out to be.
God she has a great rack on her.
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>>151634030
it's hip to fuck bees
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWy01VrBygo
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>>151576491
Just have her be a woman who discover her husband was gay all along even though they were married and then who got cheated on. You’d be surprised how normal people usually dislike that
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>>151576491
By making her queer. Seriously the only way Vivzie can make a character completely unlikeable is by making them entirely non-queer.
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>>151636150
And before anyone takes this the wrong way, just look at her track record. The only characters she makes entirely unsympathetic are either straight or gaybashers. Even villains in these shows get to be likeable, fun or understandable but only if they are not hetero.
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Have a bird
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>the shorts are better than the actual show
Grim as fuck
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>>151636208
Why does she look like a man
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Guy, i miss my wife
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>>151636827
I miss your wife too, anon.
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>>151636066
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>be Anon
>awaken to the smell of bacon
>Loona tried to make breakfast
>again
>she only burned it a little this time
>as you stroll in towards the kitchen, your foot slips on a puddle and sends you tumbling backwards
>you awaken at a table
>you try to move, but... you can't
>"Whuh... where am I?"
>the smell is interminable
>you glance around, your weary eyes making out a sea of wrinkled faces
>"Who the... where the hell... where's Loona?"
>a short, elderly and altogether human man with freckles sits to your right
>"Oh crumbs, you having another senior moment, Anon?" the old man wheezes out
>"What moment? I... wait... Moxxie?"
>"Hey, you remembered me this time! I haven't gone by that name since '38."
>"Moxxie, where's Loona?"
>an elderly woman with the widest hips you've ever seen creeps in and takes a seat next to the wrinkled Moxxie double with the help of a nurse
>"Oh, Luna!" she squawks out in a southern twang, "she was a real firecracker. She just loved those damn cigarettes too much..."
>"No... no...." you feel your weak heart begin to race as a terrible dread begins to loom over you, "this isn't right! I'm not supposed to be here! I can't be old! I'm not old! I'm not old!"
>"Yeeeep, definitely another senior moment."
>"THIS ISN'T REAL! I HAVE TO WAKE UP! I HAVE TO WAKE UP! I HAVE TO WAKE UP!"
>You're spitting as you scream, your voice reduced to a panicked croak as you flail against your wheelchair
>orderlies race in to get control of the situation, but they're too late to stop you from falling out of your chair
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>>151637622
>you awaken in the kitchen, dazed but in good shape despite your aching head
>a hellhound cradles you with an ice pack pressed against the bruise
>"Shit, I thought you were out cold," Loona says quietly, trying her best not to let too much concern shine through, "you alright? How many fingers am I hol--"
>you bolt upright before she can answer and plant one on her lips
>after what seems like forever, you pull away
>"Fuck, maybe you should hit your head more often," she teases with a red flush poking through her fur
>"Please don't ever leave."
>"Wha--? I'm not going anywhere, though...?"
>"Where'd you put your smokes?"
>"On the dresser, why?"
>"I'm flushing them."
>"Ex-fucking-scuse me--hey, where are you--DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE!"
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octavians mom has got it going on
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would he be into grand strategy like hoi4 or stellaris?
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>>151637636
Based and cute
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>>151638156
>hoi4
I firstestly dont think theyd be a seething faggot autist like you so lets get that out of the way...
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>>151638156
No.
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>>151638423
did he buy fire-prof pillows?
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if you were to die and go to vivziehell, what would your sinner form be?
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>>151638853
Yes. Everything he buys and lays in is fireproof.
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>>151638945
>'Die, go to vivziehell, this is your new form'-posting returns.
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>>151634348
GOOD
What if this but Rumpus, though...
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>>151638945
>Sinner!Two has a bigger ass and tits then when she was alive


Also
>those eyes
>those teeth
>Sinner!Two jas Cheshire cat abilities because glowie
>put this to full effect during interrogations
>Agent One sits down facing the subject, talks about his unseen partner
>ends with
>"Y'know I bet you've seen a cat without a grin."
>Two's eyes and teeth appear
>"But not a grin without a cat."
>most humans and low level hellborn start panicking
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>>151638959
>ywn lay in an asbestos lined bed with Loona
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>>151639417
>*RRRRRRIP!*
>"What the?!"
>One is praying to [insert deity here] in thanks for being able to witness the blessed sight of Two's expanded rump bursting out of her pants.
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>>151610699
What I give to have stolas to look this cool instead of the fruit loops we have right now.
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>>151640014
I enjoy these, thank you.
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>>151640291
The embiggenings will continue until morale improves.
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Loonabros, how would you deal with her sootrat dad?
Would you try and ignore him? Would you try and get into his good graces? How would you handle him?
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>>151641067
Cat Two embiggening...
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>>151641107
Tell him his daughter is an adult who can make her own choices.
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>>151641735
This, really.
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>>151636150
>>151636177
You might be onto something here, Vivzie's rainbow flavored checkmarks do usually get some sort of pass on certain things.

So what's the options:
>Lesbian
>Bi
>Pan
???
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>>151641107
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Fresh from /snoot/
For those who dont know, the one on the left is a bit of a mental case
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>>151641107
she'd probably deal with him herself
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>>151576491
I like the idea of her having a similar story beat to Tatiana from No Straight Roads. A firebrand that loses her rebellious streak due to this or that concession and over the years being a willing cog in the machine she used to fight against. Also having her parent Octavia into Goetian politics while somewhat living vicariously through her teenage rebellion would be a good addition.
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>>151634472
> I'm afraid were not gonna be able to see her depicted more favorably in the future. Still, it is fun to imagine a better version of her character in the mind's eye.
Which is disappointing, her character could have been made into a tragic story, like what Stolas and Octavia should have been made into.
>I feel like her design carried a lot of weight around here
Well that goes the same for most of the female characters or most of the characters in general, great designs, poor writing.
>>151636208
Nice.
>>151636827
I miss doing Lucyfer greens.
>>151638156
Age of Empires, Empire Earth, Sid Meier's Civilization, Total War and The Sims if he wants to experience a stable happy family.
>>151642406
Nice.
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What the fuck they doing to her
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>>151644219
Stealing her massive tits.
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>>151641107
>How would you handle him?
i'll sodomize him with a cactus until he accepts me as his son-in-law
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>>151644219
>Voxxy captured you, thinking you were one of Charles' friends or hotel workers, constantly electrocuting you to pry information out of you.
>However she kept getting distracted an annoyed by Alice's smirk, she electrocuted her to try and stop her grin from growing.
>Then the room went cold and a commotion was heard, it kept getting colder and the commotion outside grew louder.
>The door to the torture room burst open, Voxxy was pissed until she saw who was at the door.
>Lucyfer in her demonic form, in her hands were Voxxy's two compatriots, alive but unconscious and beaten to a pulp.
>She tossed them to the side and walked over to Voxxy, who was slowly losing her cool, not expecting Lucyfer to show up this early in her plans.
>Voxxy tried begging, reasoning and pleading but to no avail.
>Lucyfer picked her up, put her hand to Voxxy's face, tore one of her eyes open and pulled out circuits, Lucyfer smiled as Voxxy screamed but dropped her when she noticed you, her mallard was alive.
>Lucyfer ran over to you, unplugged the wires, picked you up and walked out of the room, passing by Charles who was freeing Alice.
>Even back at the hotel sitting atop Mister Quackles, she remained silent, holding you tightly.
>When she felt you move and place your hand on her face she allowed herself to cry, it was over, she didn't loose you.
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Why is this show still going on?
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>>151645518
Fujos and gay men. Also it's free.
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>>151645505
wife and mother in law.
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>>151645541
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>>151645541
I feel like even faggots are above this show. At least they appreciate drama that's less incoherently written and characterized than Vivzieslop.
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Ironically, what the fuck went wrong with these two shows? Did Viv really get full of herself?
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>>151645618
>Did Viv really get full of herself?
Yes
HH was premised as a simple comedy about redemption but Viv got rid of the VAs and the writers of the pilot then turned it into a bland epic comedy drama.
HB was premised as a simple comedy about hitmen, like with HH most of the original writers were removed, save for Brandon who along with Viv turned it into a sexual soap opera about Stolas and Blitzo.
Honestly it's disappointing because if both shows stuck with their original premises they would objectivity be decent at best, that is if the humor was improved because both pilots humor wasn't good but the writing was alright and the animation was great.
Imagine if HH had Emily and Charlie trying to redeem sinners and Lute and Vagatha had to serve as Emily's and Charlie's tard wranglers, HB could have been a simple down to earth style comedy, each with dark subtle tones.
Even then the changes in premises could have worked if Viv and Brandon had backed off from the writing team and Viv didn't surround herself with yesmen.
>>151645541
Well it's not really free anymore since HB was placed on prime video and too many people are stuck in their sunk cost fallacies to admit HB and especially HH isn't good.
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>>151646033
Would you bathe with Stella, if she allowed you to or would you be a gentleman and respect her privacy.
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>>151646124
Anon, we both know that she's absolutely going to leave the bathroom door unlocked and open as an invitation. It'd be rude not to accept.
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>>151646124
I love intimate baths/showers, so 100% I'd bathe with her. Wash her too, if she permitted.
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>>151646715
I wonder if she would try and pass it off as stolas'
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>>151630170
is the letter t masculine to you?
excuse me what?
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>>151646787
Lmao, no.
They've only ever fucked once and Octavia is proof of that. Questions *will* be asked.
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>>151646815
>They've only ever fucked once
Only they know that though
I think he would accept it, if only to placate her and avoid any tantrums
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Do girls like her even exist?
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>>151647557
>hasn't spirit wifemaxxed
BOIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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>>151644768
he'd probably enjoy it, the degenerate
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>>151645858
>but Viv got rid of the VAs and the writers of the pilot
honestly this is her worst sin, if I was able to ask her one question, it would be how she lives with herself knowing she threw people she called friends under the bus so she could go up to tv stardom and left them behind without a second thought or care
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>>151646815
pretty eyes
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>>151646124
I hate my body as much as I hate myself so I'd find it hard to bathe with someone else.
But Stella is a rare exception, since self-loathing/embarrassment is overshadow by how badly I desire to lather her up and run my fingers through her lovely feathers.

So, yeah. I'd just put on a swimming trunk then.

>>151646732
You get it.
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looks like loona has some new competition
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Did you guys know you can just take an Imp woman off the street? Just pick her up and go.
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>>151648544
You could, but theres an 80% chance she'll stab you if you did and a 20% chance she'll stab you sometime later down the road, most likely while im bed
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>>151648569
I mean I plan on stabbing her too.
With my dick.
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>>151648433
ew
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Guess who back
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>>151649550
Would Loona really become this sweet in a relationship? I feel like she’d still be abrasive, especially with someone smaller than her (imagine…)
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>>151576491
>How would you write stella to keep her as the villain, but also make her sympathetic rather than just a hate sink to make stolas look better by comparison?

She likes to hang out with orphans disguised as a nun in a convent. Or something.
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>>151649582
>I feel like she’d still be abrasive, especially with someone smaller than her (imagine…)
Very likely.
Abrasive in the streets, loving in the sheets for the most part.
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i want to see what anon thinks when he gets caught up in a musical number
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>>151649839
>Anon:
https://youtu.be/JAiWbSwYmx8?si=9NsF68wZuJNpfTME
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Why do we keep falling for broken girls?
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>>151649550
Best Loona artist.
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>>151650985
Because it's a narrative that tell yourself, anon.
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>>151576491
i would want to keep stella as a hate sink but also write stolas as pitiful and inept to keep keep octavia on the former's side
stolas' life is ruined, stella and andrealphus have the house, and octavia doesn't want anything to do with her father. things have ended poorly, but i don't want them to change.
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>i'm here to fuck female stolas
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>>151652745
>female
>stolas
nope, sorry, best you ll get is sissy crossdresser stolas
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where is everyone?
the thread isnt dead yet
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>>151653939
It's Wednesday, burgers are still at work and euros are having dinner.
People have lives outside these threads, you know.
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>>151650985
Add Susie and now those are my four broken waifurs.
I WANT TO SAVE BEA
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>>151654086
susie isnt broken, just malnurished
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>>151653939
I only return to these threads if there’s a HILTLH(H) update
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>>151653939
They'll be back.
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Will Octavia have her pupils fade away if/when she takes over Stolas' position. The inverse of how Stolas now has perma-pupils now that he lost his powers?

>>151655356
I, for one, am a fan of this fankid. Stolas and Stella having a second child in some fashion or another fascinates me. Plus, it gives a sibling dynamic for Via.
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>>151655674
it would have been interesting to have a second daughter, one that is closer to stella than stolas, but was nowhere near as bitchy as her mother
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>>151655877
I also have the morbid interest in the fact that Stolas and Stella despise each other and conceiving even Octavia was such a chore to them, that the idea of them going for a second one is interesting.

To that end, it's probably more realistic a second daughter would need to be a twin of Via. But maybe there's something to be said of Stolas and Stella having an older daughter, who doesn't show any aptitude toward magic, thus the reason for conceiving Via to have a more suitable precautionary heir.
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>>151655950
>the idea of them going for a second one is interesting.
what if there wasnt a second time, stella simply just laid two eggs?
birds usually lay in clutches, no?
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>>151655990
That's what I was saying, that them being twins is probably the more "reasonable" way to explain them having a second child.
I think most interpretations are of the fankid being the older sibling but does make me wonder how Via would do as the older sibling.
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>>151655090
Still holding out hope for a She Comes At Night update.
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>>151656052
Additionally. Some Via (half)sibling drama
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i've been lonely for quite a while. but i don't need friends. i have loona and the others on hl2. seeing them once more has temporarily warmed and mended my cold, broken heart. never thought i'd miss these fucking idiots so much, but here i am.
ignore the ui language, i bought the game legally from a reputable website four years ago and couldn't be bothered to change the lingo, or install steam on my decade-old laptop.
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I wish octavia had more avian features
Her legs should look like this, just like her parents, rather than having human legs like she does
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>>151657385
Mmmm birdtoes
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>>151576550
This but unironically, not all villains have to be sympathetic or redeemed to be likeable, that said i would still make everything stolas fault like it has been so far.
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>>151647943
It is Indeed one of her biggest sins, she falls under the sin of greed and gluttony.
>>151648544
I know
>>151649550
Good to see Icey_starr is back
>>151655990
I don't hate fankids, a lot of them just tend to be hit or miss, that one in particular seems alright.
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>>151657385
>Unable to move her eyes, has to rotate and position her neck to change view.
>Asymmetric ear holes.
>very slow but very quiet flight
Are you still sure you want more avian features?
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>>151659090
What's Bee cheering about?
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>>151659090
Antiquing.
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>>151659090
Solomon's used goods...
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>>151659180
That's the Fem!Asmodeus bit.
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>>151659090
Isn't it obvious?
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>>151659354
My apologies, I'm mixing up my thread lore.
>>151659409
Blessed pic, Anon.
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>>151658886
Hell yeah, make her stand out, i want the whole exotic package, not just a human with a bird head
The only thing i would want to be human is her genitalia
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>BotF hasnt had an update in a month
Am i reading that right?
Is the writer gone?
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>>151661168
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I think the fact that the goetia have better regen than angels is really funny to me because it shows how poor the worldbuilding is.
Andre gets beaten up by Stolas and he heals it all off in a few seconds. Compare that to Vaggie needing like three years to grow her wings back and Lute losing her arm to rubble and needing a prosthetic.
Hell, Stolas had Striker stabbing his chest with angelic knives and shoving angelic tacks up his cloaca and he took a few weeks to recover at most. In between Western Energy and Oops he basically makes a full recovery.
IDK if it's a mental thing but it's funny to me.
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>>151661262
Vivzie put 0 thought behind her worldbuilding, the world of the show is merely a medium by which she tells her fujo story
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>>151661452
Imagine how popular it would be if it was genderswapped.
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>>151661262
Exorcist Angels are literally Demonic beings born in Sin. They are paradoxes of what angels should be.

Actual angels do not have that problem.
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>>151661691
AI could probably do it. I mean Stolas is already written as a woman.
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>>151660752
cute wittle bird feetsies
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>>151662930
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>>151663332
Her brother knows what's up, is this pic new?
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What has transpired here in my absence? I've been gone for about half a year, and now that I'm back, the thread seems pretty much abandoned and downright depressing. Hasn't reached the bump limit, and it's been almost six days. What gives?
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>>151576491
Her brother molested her growing up.
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>>151578393
Why does this rapist get forgiven?
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>>151579692
I’m just Astaroth/Gary and Malphas aren’t in the show so they can be horrifically raped by Viv’s god awful writing and art.
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>>151579692
>I.M.P. gets contracted by Gary to kill John and Garcia after getting dragged back to Hell
Would you watch?
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EMBIGGEN!
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>>151661168

I'm not gone just busy. Chrimbus is coming up on top of things like taxes and work. I'm also trying to write longer chapters.

But here's a list of things that will happen

>Anon and Stolas go to the North Pole to find the body of Frankenstein's monster
>Stolas cucks Blitzo with Stalin whose now a femboy bear sinner
>Two becomes Queen of Hell
>Millie and Moxxie become snake handling evangelicals
>Loona runs for congress
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>>151666931
>Forgot to Clarify

T>wo kills Lucifer and beats the other sins into submission with super saiyan powers.
>Loona runs for a house of representatives member for Nevada.
>One and Collin reunite with Two and lead the production of a Muppets Show Reboot
>Stella learns the true meaning of Christmas is hanging objects from trees
>Octavia get ipad
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dead thread, see you all in the next
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