The eyes are finally visible edition.Website: https://www.bittersweetcandybowl.com/Booru: https://www.bittersweetcandybowl.com/candybooru/Previous thread: >>151549402
>>151578131Commentary and preview.
Taeshi, just let him die in peace.
>>151578131>just really obviously faking it MikeWow, Taeshi, really breaking the mold, huh? What an amazing development after such dramatic events. The same old thing, such excitement, very wow.
>>151578131>Mike wait I forgot to beat you up>Oh well
>>151578131Ew, kill it with fire
>>151578131Maishul will be in the hospital by the end of this chapter
>>151578131>Gotta reply to this long thing she sent me yesterday
Cool, so which retarded, old plot Taeshi will reheat now?
>>151578131Fuck's sake, if Mike hates Sandy so much just break up, that's what you're supposed to do. Then she can find someone who actually likes her and Mike can go drown himself in a puddle or whatever he wants to do.
>>151578191How inconsiderate of him, manipulating people into giving him pity
>>151578207Perhaps "Made Fresh" will refer to Mike changing strategies and tearing open old wounds to drive Paulo away. Little sister and abandonment-related ones he is well aware of.
>>151578207He is clearly stringing Paulo along. He is been skipping meals just for THIS exact stringing moment. Watch him stringing Paulo next pageStringing along.
>>151578167isn't the update pretty much something like happy paradise trial version?
>>151578180Honestly, good on Paulo for not folding despite having the opportunity to fold twice now.
>>151578202Mike losing Paulo's friendship through bullshit.
>>151578131>Isn't there someone else you should be checking up on?>You know, not your girlfriend I mean that bitch you simp for for no reason.I mean, I knew he was talking about Lucy and I'm still disappointed. I'm a fag so I wouldn't know, but I'm pretty sure if I was Daisy I'd be going nuclear having this bullshit rubbed in my face.
So what will the hordes of stupid teenage girls complain about now?>All part of the plan, gash darn it that dastardly Mike! >Pity farming>Look! He's running away from everything!
>>151578131Mikie, you can cry and cuddle in my shoulders if you want.Fuck, I feel his heart aching depression, this is fucking sad.
next page is Daisy accidentally spilling the beans to Paulo about Sandy cheating
>>151578348Did Paulo not know about that already?
>>151578348Patreon commentors think it's about Lucy and Mike kissing or Daisy and Mike kissing. Truly media literacy at its finest.
>>151578348I wonder how Paulo will take it. You know, the well-known manwhore who jumped from girl to girl.
>>151578131What will make Taeshi realize how much of a fucking prick Augustus is and how bad he needs a broken arm? He did this shit to Mike all over a stupid break outside that Lucy didn't fucking want and they ended up going inside anyways. It doesn't matter how right he is about the pity bullshit, he did it to get a power trip and got rewarded for it.
>>151578348Why is Daisy so bad at keeping secrets, holy shit.
>>151578348Oh neat. For a second there I was worried this would degenerate into Paisy keep-Abbey-in-the-dark bullshit. Paulo getting motivation to help Mike is much better.
>>151578378Daisy doesn't even know about the former.
>>151578401Why is Daisy so bad at everything? Why is she so passive when it comes to her long time crush?
>>151578348Yeah, I'm not THAT gullible.
>>151578431When has that ever stopped Taeshi?
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>>151578348>Mike's such a bad friend not confiding in his friends>Also they will blab whatever he told them at the first opportunityWhy does Taeshi always do this? Is it to make Lucy look good in comparison?
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>>151578439>picFucking kek that's great
>>151578431It's gonna be the suicide all over again>Noo barely anyone knows about it>AKSHUALLY everyone knows about it
>>151578447What a fitting username.
>>151578131OH MY FUCKING GOD MIKE, JUST KILL YOURSELF ALREADY!
>>151578348>Why did Mike not confide in Daisy after she told him he could always count on her to be on his side and keep his things private?>The movie stalking and now this
>>151578477Then back to>yeah only a few people know>*conspicuously ignores what Madison said and Sue accepted*as of a recent tumblr post.
>>151578380Rules and punishment for thee not for me
Lmfao the discord is a shitshow. Some edgelord wished death on Mike and everything's on fire.
>>151578504Mike really is a Newtype with danger sense. Methinks he would very much like to confide in Daisy but always had good reason to avoid doing so.
Even just the potential implication that Paulo will follow up on this and try to get to the bottom of what happened is astounding. I'm so used to this comic spinning its wheels for years on end that a dramatic event actually continuing to evolve between chapters is mind-boggling.The question is, how will Taeshi fuck it up to keep the gravy train stalled at the station?
I guess Paulo and Abbey(even if they barely interacted for a looong time) are the only acquaintances of Mike at this point
>>151578546Any good images or comments?
>>151578546*I* wish death on Mike. Just let him rest already.
>>151578459Where is this panel from?
>>151578388Augustus is a fan favorite, nothing is going to happen to him until she needs to get to a plot point. You should have learned already if your name isn't Mike karma isn't catching up with you (until you bother Lucy)
Honestly we should just ramp up for the next stupid ass chapters by spamming something obviousKYS MikeUntil Taeshi stops being a coward and fucking does it.
>>151578203Everyone agrees, it would be much better for both, but to be fair, Mike probably feels responsible; he doesn't want to break up with her and make her think it's her fault.Ironically, Sandy also thinks the same, she feels guilty, so she thinks she now HAS to be with him, even though the spark between them is long gone.>>151578388Right? It still baffles me that some people think that he was in the right. The whole thing was an unecessary mess, Mike wasn't bothering anyone.Worst of all was that fucking Lucy ended up agreeing with Augustus' methods, kicking Mike on the stomach. Wasn't she the one who said she 'never wanted it'? That she she 'didnt' want to interact or impose and all? Why then is she actively taking part and reaping the benefits of it, then?Fuck Lucy, Augustus, David, and James. Paulo can fuck off too.
>>151578348If this was a better comic or if the author was actually sane. I would jump to the conclusion that Daisy is vindictive and did this just to fuck with Mike for not going after her from the start
This chapter was fun. I kinda miss gay baiting.
>>151578447>He gets what he deserves Such a nothing phrase, nothing is ever enough for these people
>>151578589High Expectations, it's what got Mike to flip out at Sue. It's weird and annoying how Taeshi forces the plot to work the way she wants it to>Mike won't actually sperg out unless someone triggers him>So I'll have someone do that>and then I'll never bring that thing I made them do up again.Why the fuck are Paulo and Sue gossiping about Sandy if they hate each other? Who knows, Taeshi will never address it. They all need to follow McCain's example: acquire gnosis and escape the demiurge's tricks and traps.
>>151578630> it would be much better for both, but to be fair, Mike probably feels responsibleReminds of the whole Lucy situation, eh?
>>151578669It's used so often, too. "Mike's finally getting what he deserved," or "maybe THIS TIME, Mike will finally get what he deserves," which just goes to show you are absolutely correct. The goalposts might as well be on wheels.
>>151578701Why didn't Mike just rape Sue?
>>151578546>Schism over saying the quiet part out loudYou can't just say that and not show us
>>151578723Because he's not male Lucy.
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>>151578701> Why the fuck are Paulo and Sue gossiping about Sandy if they hate each other?I WANT TO BELIEVE.Fuck, can you imagine what a kino it would be if Paulo and Sue teamed up to save Mike?
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>>151578630>Wasn't she the one who said she 'never wanted it'?
>>151578747Huh. Didn't expect that many downvotes from cult HQ. Then again I figure this isn't the patron chat.
>>151578701Paulo and Sue been talkin' on the downlow
Holy shit, Mike looks awful.>>151578203He can't, she gave up shit for him, so he is stuck(in his mind). Last time he didn't return a white cat's feelings, she jumped off a building.
>>151578766>Augustus pfpI want him to answer what actions warrant these consequences and how they compare to Augustus's attempted rape of Daisy.
>deathmatch in the discord because like three people made "fuck yeah Mike deserves this I hope he dies" posts and someone finally called them out for being weird cunts and it opened the floodgateslmao
>>151578447Ew.
>>151578766>Disgustus profile picThe jokes really do write themselves, do they?
>>151578747>>151578766The cult turning on itself like this feels like that "are we the baddies?" joke, they have been at it so long there's people that are willing to say it out loud in a way that makes the others uncomfortable. It's fun and I hope they keep the schism up long enough
>>151578766>Actions have consequences>unless it is attempted rape
Uhhhhh so can we give Mike his sex drive back?
>>151578836Amy's the one for the job.
>>151578836I wish. Him going full manwhore would be funny.
>>151578836Matt dumped estrogen in the water supply to effeminize Jordan for easier seducing, none of these "boys" are even able to pop one anymore.
>>151578388>It doesn't matter how right he is about the pity bullshit, he did it to get a power trip and got rewarded for it.This is coming from a chapter that just ended, consequences are not always immediate. You are acting like augustus cruelty wasn't deliberate.
>>151578836Not until he beats his depression, and anti depressants kill your libido anyway >inb4 what libido
>>151578836"Back"?
>>151578835Lucy did actual attempted rape so now rape is good actually
>>151578747100% same people who say "why are you so pressed about a fictional cat??? :))) " when you dare to say you dislike lucy lol
>>151578723Because he would face Amaya's vengeance >>151578579You want him dead the way you want a sick old crying dog dead, to stop his suffering
>>151578855He weaseled out of Abbey beating his ass with his keikaku bullshit before, and Rachel went from wanting to kill him over it to gushing over him on Lucy's word, so I don't have any faith in Taeshi punishing him.
>>151578931>Think about the rabbits, Mike.
>>151578971This, just give up hope for any retribution
>>151578855When was the last time Augustus or Lucy got any punishment in this comic
>>151578990Yeah...its all going towards Mike anyway
>>151578835That leads to being rewarded or treated with kid gloves. Same with mild molesting.>Agustus>Lucy>Paulo before the retconsHenstly Mike screaming at Lucy pales in comparison to everything these 3 do in hindsight. Removing Paulo and David being tcreepily ouchy fucked up a good reason for Lucy fearing people only wanted her for her body.She had no issue making Lucy tsundere violence actual abuse, but had an issue with making Paulo and David creepers?>>151578931>Because he would face Amaya's vengeanceJust mindbreak till she likes it then get sue to hold down amaya till she likes it. Hell Amaya, small enough to pass as a loli, so suitcase might consider it sweet.
>>151578388Nothing because he's currently shielded by Lucy using him as a teddy bear so he won't face consequences.
>>151578747>>151578766I hope these are kids. Mike's biggest mistake was being interested in two girls at the same time, and "overreacting" when he finally drew the line
>>151579005Nice pic, I like the style. Even the bobble head look is superior to Taeshi's.
>>151579005Nice hips.
>>151578990I want to bet you the moment Augustus faces any kind of punishment for bullying Mike into exile Taeshi will find a way for the other characters to blame Mike for it, some sort of "if you didn't bother Lucy that one time he wouldn't be in trouble"
>>151579005Excellent style anon
>>151578971>He weaseled out of Abbey beating his ass with his keikaku bullshit before, and Rachel went from wanting to kill him over it to gushing over him on Lucy's wordI don't know why we are acting like his character is over, he's still tied to alejandro y'know
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>>151579005Why does he look so breedable here, good art also
>>151578307"I'm not allowed to feel abused or hurt and I deserve nobody."- What Mike learned from The Candyverse.
>>151579059Nah, it'll be Alejandro beating his ass to a pulp so everyone else can be blameless
>>151579000just because the comic is going at the pace of a turtle doesn't mean it's not gonna happen, just wait until 2045 probably
>>151578363Only Lucy and Daisy know.
>>151578546>>151578766The reactions to the last two chapters have been fascinating to watch because even long-time Mike haters are getting weirded out by the callousness.
>>151578131Lucyspace is so powerful it activates even when she is nowhere to be seen
>>151579083Lucy's the dick flattener. Sandy's the dick relaxer because she's so fucking boring.
>>151578447I'm concerned how many Mike haters are domestically abusive wives and mothers.
>>151579100Sooner or later it was bound to happen
>>151579100How much do you want to bed they are just cowards who fall back the moment they are no longer in the majority?
>>151579116To me it feels more like them using Mike as a surrogate for men in their lives that they hate but can't warp reality around to make suffer like Lucy does
>>151578131At this rate I fear Mike will collapse from malnourishment/low sugar + stress and be sent to the ER before he can even begin to consider offing himself. It'd be an interesting surprise to see his family involved before he crosses the line.
>>151579100I mean, they're a group known for hating the most fleshed out character of the comic and praise the equivalent of "just trust me bro" character that is Lucy, their cause was already on shaky ground, all that's happening is that some are skipping the mental gymnastics and that makes the rest panic because they're supposed to be morally right
>>151579123I don't think it's that deep
>>151579143Given the importance of the track stuff in the story he's probably going to collapse at a race in front of everyone
>>151578662Lovestruck Paulo boysimping for Mike and James is so cute.>>151578701It's no wonder he got angry when his closest friends spat on his relationship with Sandy and egging him on to date his abuser. Mike really suffered a ton, a huge example for why he should be machiavellian.
>>151579160That's not deep at all. It's exactly the opposite.
>>151579143>Haley going absolutely apeshit on Lucy and Lucy learning her kung fu bullshit doesn't stop blind rage that won't die out from a single kick or blocked punch.
>>151579163>he's probably going to collapse at a race in front of everyoneI would say it's good to get Mike's help, but a part of me is worried that his parents will start a blame game against each other, vs worrying about their eldest son.
>>151579083I demand more shitposts using this image.
>>151579163Not enough. He has to collapse and not be breathing just so any joke David says will be seen as him being the worst person ever
>>151579177Lucy hitting Haley would probably result in Haley fucking clawing the bitch
>>151579123We can bed even if they aren't ~
>>151579184>will be seen as him being the worst person everDavid is immune to consequences, anon
>>151579143You know if that happens his parents are going to get into a blaming match and finally divorce, making Mike feel responsible and pushing him closer to death
>>151579177Interesting theory, but I believe she will instead comfort Lucy and tell her not to blame herself for Mike being an idiot who doesn't take care of his health.
>>151579198An anon can dream damnit...an anon can dream...
>>151578931>You want him dead the way you want a sick old crying dog dead, to stop his sufferingI know these threads slow down whenever Mike's not on screen, but watching him be miserable just sucks. It feels like watching something die painfully - I wish it'd just stop twitching already.It doesn't help that he's such a nothing character aside from his misery. He works as a straightman to the antics of the other characters, but now he's isolated from them all due to shenanigans.
>>151579203>>151579209>All roads lead to lucyspaceIt almost feels like the game... was rigged from the start.
>>151579086Naw, Mike should be the breeder. Mike rapes and impregnates all the girls as revenge for wronging him, now they're burdened with carrying his babies.>>151579134Yeah, that's concerning. Mike's childhood was miserable, he was conditioned to take beatings from an unstable abuser cause she had "good on the inside". Few to nobody fully empathized with his suffering and he got demonized for snapping, telling her to fuck off, and choosing a nice sweet girl. Perpetrator girl gets second chances and victimized guy gets shamed for having a spine, it's no wonder he's miserable.
>>151578574>>151578747>>151578766
>>151579183>I'm not sure at least my mother fucking loved me, Paulo
>>151579123That's not really how I view it. I think it's totally understandable to dislike Mike as a character because he's a self-sabotaging doormat and that's how most "haters" feel about him. When the story really starts beating down on him though, it's normal to feel empathy toward him even if you dislike him.Under normal circumstances the schizophrenic-level haters blend in with the normal ones, but now they stick out like a sore thumb and are getting ostracized, which is really entertaining to watch.
>>151579184>David, my fucking legs
>>151579159>they're a group known for hating the most fleshed out character of the comicI thought Abbey was pretty universally well-liked.
>>151579225What is it with you and rape? The fact that you are Indian should give you pause to consider whether you really want to play into THAT particular stereotype.
>>151579261>When the story really starts beating down on him though>WhenIt was like that for +11 years. Stop downplaying the issue
>>151579229lmao
>>151579239>>151579183I'M TAKING ALL THE LOW HANGING FRUIT ON THIS TREE!! IT'S ALL MINE!!
>>151578747He's actively burning down his own social life to benefit Lucy, the girl that kicked him in the stomach, helped orchestrate his exile from the cafeteria, and then gloated about it. And it still isn't enough to earn any goodwill.
>>151578131>Martyrs are one of the Hunter creeds that follow the virtue of Mercy. Like Defenders, they seek to protect mortals, but they do so by putting themselves at risk and sacrificing themselves. They feel they have been chosen to suffer the predations of monsters so that others may be free. They understand the emotions and motivations of compulsive predators, because they feel the same way. Martyrs tend to be miserable with their role, but know that if they pursue it, fewer others will have to share their fate. The Edges commonly granted to them include powers which aid others while harming the Martyr. They are often among the shortest-lived of hunters.
>>151579229Uh oh, it looks like it's time to reset the community! This one's thinking for itself!
>>151579229garu pfp guy is gonna get banned for being too sane
>>151579286Lucyfags like that will never be satisfied. Mike could give her the world or die and they'd still shit on him. With those sort you might as well piss them off more to really give em something to cry about
>>151579100It's what usually happens when they are suddenly confronted with the repercussions of something they have supported for years. From what I've seen most people there are stuck with the idea of violent sperg Mike from before Sandy cheated on him and it's hard to suddenly have to look at the one they spent years wanting to suffer, actually suffering for in a pretty messed up manner. The more invested people are in the story the more they will fight against the feeling of being in the wrong and will double down on their opinion while the others see how stupid that is. It's the same reason people argue even after knowing they have lost.
>>151579265I know where you're coming from but that last part is bullshit and you know it, Taeshi literally despises him
>>151579289>They are often among the shortest-lived of hunters.Mike has survived this long; he'll pull through.
>>151579286Because it's not about the actual comic, it's tribalism, it's the same bullshit you see on /v/ when talking about consoles
>>151579309Shockingly, the discord isn't afraid to call out everyone cept for David apparently. But you can tell there's some thinly veiled vitriol being held back in some comments.
>>151579261I wouldn't say I *hate* Mike, but I am extremely bored of watching him take a hammer to his own balls. Even this situation only exists because he:>gave in to Augustus's asinine demand that he stay inside because something something Lucy, and >wanted to hang out with David and James despite them treating him like dirt rather than going to one of the THREE tables he's welcome at.I'd feel bad for him if he did anything to try and help himself, but as is I just wish he'd snap out of it.
>>151579229I don't agree with all the "he's a teenager" moralizing. He's not real and this is all a soap opera. But I don't know how anyone could feel zero sympathy for Mike after everything that's happened. Even reading everything about Mike in the worst light, all he did was kinda lead someone on and yell at a couple of his friends. That's not the worst thing anyone in this comic has done.
>>151579276Mike behaved in an unlikeable way for a lot of that time. I get people not feeling sorry for him during Witch Hunt for example (even if I did) because he was written to be extremely fucking annoying and grating. The difference now is that he's completely broken and not pushing back in any way and you still have psychos saying the suffering must continue.
>>151579330Yeah but Taeshi's opinions don't count, she still likes Mucy for some godforsaken reason.
>>151579229It's fucking funny, this is people fighting to be the most morally righteous in the room, which used to be shitting on Mike since he's narratively wrong, but now the facade is over. I thought he only acted as a lightning rod for the table but here we are
>>151579276The thing is that before there was always an out to the things that happened to Mike. He was a unpleasant sperg for a while because of his Sandy issues and that gave the haters and easy target, even if he's shown miserable then. Then Eternal Flame happened and while he suffered, all good will he built was lost when he took the call. After that all his suffering was a slow burn and his relationship with James was a thing. This is the first time where he's been unambiguously beaten down to the point of having dead eyes and without any sort of plausible justification other than spite and drama.
>>151579229That Yuji one got me
>Mike sperg this>Sperg thatYou know, it's okay and pretty normal for you to be defensive about your relationship(be it shit or not). Or be defensive when most of your school acquaintances (only bully victims think they're friends) are openly antagonistic towards you.It might come as a surprise to you but letting people walk all over you is NOT some sort of virtue nor a sign of maturity, ya know?
>>151579420Some people actually believe the shit about leading Lucy on and using her.
>>151579451>about leading Lucy on and using her.We literally have pages of it being the other way around.
>>151579229Im in this screenshot but im too scared of suit to say which one is me
>>151579451And this is where the Lucytards stem from. They see their pathetic selves in her. So when Mike "led her on", they felt slighted. How dare Mike reject them?
>>151579481Lucystans are delusional morons, news at 11.
>>151579381Not really. None of the people pictured have switched up their opinions, they're just more outspoken today because somebody finally said "it's weird to say a teenaged character deserves to die" and broke the dam.
>>151578131These BCB threads are amazing, why wasn't i informed earlier about them?
>>151579356same here, I defend mike a lot but there's a point where the self pity gets annoying
>>151579229I fucked up some of the screenshots when I went to do the montage, here's one of them
>>151579356Yeah, but with bowing down to Augustus it's part because Lucy physically assaulted him.Like, jesus fucking christ how has this bitch not been suspended?
>>151578902I've still yet to see a Lucyfag post death threats or talk about killing themselves over Lucy so
Reminder that Lucy is actually pissed with her "friends" for not standing up to her would be rapist after getting their shit rocked in. They were supposed to live and die for her, they're not real friends, how dare they be afraid.
>>151579848I hate how Lucy has excellent potential for character development, but Taeshi only "recognizes" her shittier side so long as worst cat is given an out to avoid responsibility. Taeshi is also allergic to giving Lucy the slap to the face she sorely needs before improving.
>>151579436Nah anon, you should just take it like a good boi! Or at least that's what this anon >>151579420 suggests with his dislike of angry graycat
>>151579899Not either of those anons, but I get being upset and annoyed by sperg Mike. Easily one of the worst parts of the comic. Also complete bullshit since it was OOC as fuck.
>>151579724>Like, jesus fucking christ how has this bitch not been suspended?Personally, I think Taeshi should have had a teacher show up after Mike shoved Augustus to get Mike in trouble instead of that.
>>151579848That whole introduction page where Lucy was rentlessl shitting on everyone, specially Mike, about everything, should have clued everyone that this is what she's like
>>151580003Unrelated but I miss when Sue had this haircut
>>151580003>Mike, Sue, Paulo all try to defend each other from Alejandro>Lucy hides or something and only gets involved after Alejandro was stomping on her oneitis's head>then blames Sue and Paulo like she didn't sit back and watch them get their asses beat.Man, imagine if Taeshi did the reasonable thing and someone pointed this out.
>>151579899You have as much reading comprehension as the lucysimps anon. I said that even if it was just superficial, there was always an out for Mike haters to justify themselves, even if the comic was punching down on him. Now that layer of "well, he still deserves it for X" has been stripped away and there's a split between those that see that and those who think no amount of Mike punishment will ever be enough.
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>>151580282And one with the OG text
>>151580075I believe that's pretty much why the nightmare is still this dumb mystery, if told to anyone else they would see how full of it Lucy is, and if the readers saw the full thing they would hold judgement over Lucy the golden girl, so it's still nuanced. Consider this cryptic dream is why Augustus got Mike exiled and not even he knows what it's about
>>151579229>i-is that critical thinking in the middle of my BPD circle jerk?! SUITCASE HELP MEEEE
>>151579225At least find a better comic to be a weird sperg about
>>151579229uh-ohhhhhh
>>151580588You act like any of us can claim normalcy in these threads.
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>>151580003Daisy is the only one that didnt really try to do anything. But to be fair to her, she just saw paulo, Mike, and Sue get taken out. Sue got fucking tossed into garbage so what chance did she have?
bcb trainwrecking hard enough for drawfags to return was not on my bingo card
>>151580755kek
>>151579494>Suit bans everyone in the screenshot just to be safe
>>151579786Im pretty sure Lucyfags did jump onto a real person, shamed, vilified, gaslight and insulted them because they didnt like Lucy. Agree 4chan is full of degenerates in anonymous form, but Patreon is brain dead for sperging with linked accounts to personal informations. If you want to be a cunt stay anonymous for your own sake
>>151580851I hope not, I just wanted to show how people there were reacting
>>151579494Thanks on my way to remove you, pest.
>>151580842I'm back for a bit, didn't want to let it ruin my thanksgiving.And because I am back, I will actually shared the Cookie x Paulo pages I saved (only got four, seems like there might be more I forgot to save though) because I checked the last thread and someone brought up that OC too.>>151580755lol.
>>151579229>>151579494You know what, I dont give a shit anymore my username is kaitoGo ahead and ban me, you impotent faggot. I dont want to read this shit anymore
>>151579005Cute, wanna see more!
>>151581051next page>>151581053Even if you were, a responsible moderator would just assume this is someone pretending to single them out and get them banned.
I wanna fuck Lucy's mom.
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>>151579641I only read this and QC through /co/ and from what I can tell, this comic is more entertaining and doesn't suffer from the problem QC has where there are like 300 different characters.
>>151581126The only thing I remember from QC was the Ben Garrison edits.
>>151580851We all know Suit is frothing at the mouth. His fingers hovering over the button
>>151581120Is cookieanon still around?
>>151581120And this is the last page I had. I don't think the anon shared any art blog. Hopefully their doing good this christmas season.>>151579428>>151579005Oh wow art anons are coming back, I'll have to share my stuff soon.>>151578131Also, is Paulo angry at Mike? Why is he shaking his fist like that in the last panel?
>do not read this comic fag is MIA>see you next page fag is MIA>we still hereThe HORROR.
>>151581180He's angry at himself
>>151581180Here's the fifth page, friend.
>>151581204And the bonus.
>>151579229Mike is not fully sympathetic, as Taeshi has sabotaged every opportunity to make him a fully sympathetic character.Lucy acted the way she did because of her mental illnesses, Mike acts the way he does because... yeah, because. He's an "idiot".Honestly if Taeshi removed First-Degree Burn and had Augustus aggro on him without warning then it would got a long way into making Mike more sympathetic, at least specifically in Line in the Sand. Literally all of Mike's issues are because he won't break up with Sandy, a person he clearly does not like anymore, because... reasons. I think it's implied he feels guilty over upsetting her but like... c'mon man. Can we just be done with Sandy already? It's getting comical how much Taeshi beats that dead horse. That horse is nothing but dust now.
>>151578447>>151578447>stupid teenage girlsWait, was taeshi able to renew her comic's readers again? I thought we were all >20 cursed to read the comic for eternity. Congrats for her, i think she's just pissing in the story make we go into loops, but it is really talented of her to be able to keep renewing readers and keep it going.
>>151581187>>see you next page fag is MIAShit I forgot all about him
>>151570748Pfff, there's even my art with "might be drawn by Taeshi" added to it. It's clear that it's full of very new people that have no idea how much fan and official stuff is out there in all corners of the internet, or that Amy is barely older than Concord. Hope they'll have fun discovering everything and not get influenced by discord/4chan/etc over time, we need variety>>151571650>>151581051Since Cookie's author is missing (at least I hope they are doing well), I have a lore proposition: Amy and Cookie knowing each other, together proud of their grey "good boy I pulled by being silly and chasing squirrels" and orange "bad boy I pulled by blacking out at random party". The "will fix you and you'll love it" and "will ruin you and you'll love it" combo. Maybe they both are college gals unrelated to Roseville's school. An excuse to draw both Mike and Paulo having fun away from the mess in the comic and to draw more of both oc girls>>151578131Guess we ain't seeing Mike again for like 3-4 months maybe more, prime time to make fan stuff. And official discord was fun to read, screenshot in the thread is just a small part of it (guy who posted memes there in the middle of it all and caught in screenshot is based. As well as people who usually come few hours after initial reactions with more honest takes about Mike getting beaten by author, Paulo held on a leash, Lucy and other asses in need of their just deserts they won't get because author, etc)>>151580842Write it off as early christmas miracle
>>151581099>bcb discord>responsible moderation
>>151581284Is there another discord or something?
It got so fucking bad that>Discord shat itself>Random drawfag returnsMaybe even traceanon will show up for the family picture.
>>151581357Actually, there is. I believe Fannel made one after being fucking exiled. I've never visited it tho.
>>151581204>>151581222Ah yeah, thank you anon.>>151581284I sometimes dabble in Dada inspired satire.>>151581361Taeshi's birthday but we're getting all the gifts
>>151580282>>151580307Perfection
>>151581357I think he means that Suit is a shit moderator, but there's supposedly also a Patreon only discord where people do mental gymnastics to justify spending money on this comic
>>151579229And so the pendulum swings.
>>151578564>detective Paulo finds out Mike's phone has been broken for months
>>151578564>Paulo berates Mike for not picking Lucy over Sandy>storms off>Mike sadLike this!
>James https://mega . nz/file/g6A2VLiK#K0HfxL6FmBAcDss6ZEiWZCZ67-PDlYEL1A3j_1RipPc>Madison https://mega . nz/file/Q6A2yAJC#RiZJjBOd3KQE5lj2oBoQV2mmHjDcxO5P_kbv_qSDYoMTo the anon who wanted James sorry it took so long I caught the old japanese cold and couldn't even come to the threads for a while
>>151578564Something something library kiss something something sperg mike.>>151578755>Every bridge is burnt and the table is only Paulo and Sue left trying to save Mike and Lucy from spiraling Might be kino
>>151579143>Mike collapses in the hallway>after a couple of hours Lucy trips over him>everyone gets mad at his comatose body
Why didn't Lucy just sit with the seniors too? If she's going to hang around with people she can't stand for Augustus' sake why would she chose the set that she's having nightmares about? Is she stupid?
>>151582617She wasn't willing to be in the cafeteria at all if Mike might be there
The problem for me with Sperg Era Mike is that it felt unnatural. It's one thing to be fed up with the friend group which is justifiable, but him shouting at every corner and even being drawn like a baby felt like Taeshi wanted Mike's friends to cut him off, but she wanted to make it look like it was all his fault and the others had no blame in how things turned out. So she turned him into Male Lucy for a bit.Actually, it wasn't even a bit, it was about five years at minimum. Having him be like that for that long while not taking any chances to make him sympathetic or even just a good person in her fanbase's eyes sabotaged him for new and old readers. You could say he was already screwed because Lucy jumped, but nothing after helped his case. I believe this only stopped because Taeshi didn't like how much readers hated Mike and EF was a dumpster fire.But the call was coming from inside the house on that one.
LucyxMike is still the endgame
>>151582671Better if we regard that era as noncanon
>>151582671>she turned him into Male Lucy for a bitApparently that was deliberate, but Taeshi is impulsive and dumb so what she was going for doesn't make sense. Her making of post on the patreon talks about how Lucy telling Paulo to fuck off and Mike telling Sue to fuck off were supposed to be a parallel drawn between the two. Except then she decided to have Mike headslam Paulo so it didn't work until I guess Double Down showed that Mike gives a shit if someone roughs up Paulo and Lucy doesn't.
>>151578447>He'll learn from this and understand what "Consequences of your actions" are and will eventually reach a better place after a bumpy ride.He's on the quickest path to killing himself by depressed fasting or jumping off a high area. Him reaching "A better place" isn't guaranteed unless you think that place is the afterlife. If so then maybe she has a point. The sweet embrace of death is beter than suffering in BCB.>If sandy's image didnt crack in his mind, he wouldn't have cared about the whole james thing.He absolutely would have. Mike's problem about feeling like people only wanted him romantically and dropped him once they couldn't have him was still there. This is why that "Manipulator that strings people along" shit falls flat on its face. Mike wanted A FRIEND THAT WOULDN'T FUCK HIM OVER LIKE THE OTHERS. James appeared to be that friend at first. But the very same night he couldn't get mike to cheat on Sandy, he switched over to David. It wasn't like the 3 of them were hanging out together. James actively started caring a lot less about Mike after weeks of proping him up. Him saying "it's like we dont need mike" was more than likely a thought that slipped out and he tried to play it off.>>151582617>Why didn't Lucy just sit with the seniors too? If she's going to hang around with people she can't stand for Augustus' sake why would she chose the set that she's having nightmares about? Because she got one over on Mike. Even if she hates her old table, they aren't concerned with Mike. That's good enough for her.>Is she stupid?Absolutely. Not only did she go "ALL OR NOTHING" on the Mike and Sandy thing post EF, but whatever her end goal is on destroying Mike's life isn't going to pan out like she wants.Either he ends up emotionally dead, staying away from her no matter what even when she wants him around, or he tries to kill himself. Odds are that it'll be all three
>>151582793>The sky is still blue
>>151581445This is the first time I struck something while the iron was still hot.>>151582671Even with that time frame though, you have to think of the people that caught up to it after the fact. I don't see how new-ish readers hold so much vitrol for Mike. It's still drawn out rereading it, but it's a hop and a skip compared to the slog of years.
>>151582671>it felt unnaturalBecause he's a 'nice guy', for the most part. So him being like that is just OOC. MAYBE if it was related to Sandy during the cheating part but anything before that was just pure character assassination
>>151582804>Her making of post on the patreon talks about how Lucy telling Paulo to fuck off and Mike telling Sue to fuck off were supposed to be a parallel drawn between the two.yeah she fumbled that then. For starters, Mike would eventually feel bad about yelling at Sue. Sue decided to just hold a grudge forever. Plus Mike has much more reason to go off on them than Lucy does at Paulo. After all the shit they gave him, not having kind words would be in line with any repressed anger.>>151582852I feel like it all goes back to the suicide attempt and her regretting that plot point on some level. If the table group exiled Mike over that along with other characters possibly doing the same, over the suicide attempt, then there would be no way they'd take him back later on. Even Taeshi would have a hard time getting that to land with her reader base. But if he turns into Male Lucy, then, while bad, it still leaves room for reconciliation with the group. But taeshi doesn't build up to it. She just flips a switch on him without good reason. At minimum his spergs just make you wonder why people would put up with Lucy because she's the same way. Maddison's introduction got the same reaction from people that Lucy should regularly have when she flips out.Even if you say "The guys do it because she's hot." then what about the girls?
>>151578131>No Mike this isn't ok god damn it >Lucyspace is real ill prove it
>>151579433Brilliant.He's saving some explosives for the double date.
>>151582804Taeshi should learn already her "parallels" and pottery between Mike and Lucy don't work because where Mike attempts to be kind and pays consequences Lucy remains brash and has everything forgiven, it's like stabbing the leg of a hobo and a CEO and proclaiming that since they both bleed they're not so different after all
>>151582617Sitting at the table is a symbol of personal victory over the dastardly villain Michael Graycat.
>>151582617>What Taeshi wants you to readLucy is sacrificing herself to give Augustus freedom and friends, she will stand the company of her horrible, horrible friends that don't care about her so that he can stop worrying about her, and pulling Paulo's leash is her just trying to stop this new control from falling apart >What anyone with common sense sees happening Lucy for her victory over Mike by taking his place, she doesn't care for the seniors at all and the table are a bunch of simps so they'll behave if they know what's good
>>151582839Hahaha, holy shit, I was the one bitching about "evoques".I really like it! I didn't think you still remember the pie analogy.Also, I guess the inside of the bakery is for patrons only, the rest of the discord can enjoy their leftovers on the street.
>>151582423>Something something library kiss something something sperg mike.Paulo wasn't even looking Daisy's way, yet wasn't he after Korat cock or would he be jealous diasy kissed Mike and not him? Why is Mike even suffering for this shit? He isn't even sticking his dick in any of his friends.The comic would improve if he were fucking people, so there would be some reason for all the hostility.Boat.
>>151579338Many fall in the face of chaos, but not this one. Not today.
>>151582839I don’t really grasp the pic, would anyone mind explaining it to me?
Suitcase is a moron for banning leakers , the images that came from the edits were free viral publicity for this shit comic. Threads have gone downhill since.
>>151584334Pie is the comic.Hobos represent 4chan. We were bitching about redditors and their new subreddit for the BCB lately.Territory outside the bakery is Discord where readers are currently fighting about Mike.Inside the bakery is probably Patreon where everyone is complaisant.Can you decipher this one?
>>151584578It's about that one namefag right?
>>151584653Bingo!
>>151584578Aimultiavenger or whatever the fuck his name is.
>>151582793>>151582822Yeah, but I remember last year some mofos here were like 'NUH UH, anyone can see it wont be!!', but it's pretty obvious it is intended to be the endgame, as unfortunate as it sounds.>>151582839great as usual man, I was half expecting to see our resident blockhead in there>>151584365That's what I've always thought, too. This aggressive manhunt for the leakers can only be detrimental to the comic. It's not like the vast majority of people here would ever become a patreon anyway, and by banning leakers you just end up losing support.
>>151579100SomeColourMage isn't a long-time Mike hater, he's like one of 3 or 4 people that are usually on Mike's side on most of the issues.
>>151579724No, Lucy kicking him for saying a word against her happened when Augustus went over to confront Mike while James and David were there. Mike going "o-ok, sure" to Augustus's demand he stay inside happened when they were alone in the hallway.>>151584952>It's not like the vast majority of people here would ever become a patreon anywayEspecially when we see that patrons are constantly getting purged.
Man I wish mike was still mike and not this miserable weak spineless spergy cuckold with dwarfism. Years of torment at the hands of the demiurge have left him scarred and mutilated yet he still remains the most likeable character
>>151585611Too true.
>what would Mike's reaction be to a repeat of the Dial tone dream? Would he change anything?>Veronica: I don’t imagine he’d grovel nearly enough to Sandy.. and it would give him the opportunity to have the talk with Lucy he so badly wanted. The conversation Augustus prevented lolIt puts the Mucy on its skin
>>151582414Thank you for your service, AI anon!
>>151585833Taeshi's spent the last 5 years desperately retconning everytime Mike chose Sandy over Lucy, or said he didn't like Lucy.Even FITR got the retcon hammer
>>151583132>>151584952Thanks! Glad my allegory works.>>151584334 what >>151584578 said.>>151585833What exactly is this from? Is it supposed to be a dream sequence for a BCI? I liked it when the dreams were more surreal.
>>151585833Prepare yourselfMy preferred copium is that Mike's yearning for Lucy is less about her and more just a desperate desire to go back to a time when he was less miserable and didn't hate himself.
>>151585961>What exactly is this from?It's a reply to a tumblr ask about Mike having a repeat of his dream sequence from Dial Tone. The pic is what would happen apparently.
>>151585833I'd really like if someone asked Taeshi to, without using the terms "pretty" or "good singer", please explain why anyone should want to be with Lucy.
>>151585833The levels of delusion to try to paint this pairing being at all a good thing disgusts me
>>151585833>>151585980I think a lot of us when we fatalistically admit that Mucy is endgame don't really grasp how awful that will look when it finally does happen.You don't get it, you think you do, but I don't think you really get just how fucking awful it will be.Remember how early in the spoilers of James suddenly hating Mike we all assumed that he'd go apeshit against Augustus or maybe sperg out at James, and then how it actually went down was 10x worse than anyone predicted?It's gonna be that but even worse.
>>151586124I can only take solace in the fact that Mucy endgame will piss off pretty much everybody including Lucyfags which will make her seethe how everyone despises her trash ship.
haven't read this since mike trashed his room over sandy being a dumb bitch or something then he went to the tree on a hill and talked to lucy. I think he completely forgave sandy, let her get away with everything and got back with her so i dropped it. has it gotten better since then?
>>151586280>Has it gotten better since then
>>151586280Worse than you could possibly imagine, do not stay here, do not engage.Leave this place.Leave while you still have hope.
>>151585980>(Daisy apparently doesnt count because she was too pushy?)Insane how unfair it is to Daisy>>151585833There was another blog post about Paulo reacting to Sandy showing up for valentines day and Lucy transported into the scene. Even when completely unrelated, Lucy is involved. Please make note for the next few chapters.
god I wish mike were actually this cool
>>151585980Ah, I forgot about this. I wonder if that anon has been detected and punished... The leak seems to fit the comic's modus operandi, so I don't doubt it's true.If I had to guess, the person he talks to is of course Paulo. I just hope that Lucy isn't really there, otherwise it'll once again only confirm that Lucy is omniscient and omnipresent.Also, why the smile? I doubt it is a happy smile; judging by the recent chapters, it's more likely to be a 'he is suffering therefore I won' kind of smile.>>151586124Yeah, one thing that can be said about this comic is that it always surprises the readers in somehow making things even worse than they can possibly imagine.>>151586280>has it gotten better since then?Like the others said, no, it actually got even worse. It has just been a cycle of endless Mike torture.I remember I also nearly dropped the comic around the same time you mentioned.
wtf is taeshi's plan? where is she going with this? is there supposed to be some mike suicide attempt coming up to parallel lucy's attempt??
>>151586836It's unlikely to be a direct suicide attempt like Lucy did. Probably just ending up hurting himself due to starving himself and depression. He'll probably pass out mid track practice or something and have to go to the hospital if I had to guess. Everyone assumes this will somehow loop around to Mucy endgame where she "forgives" him and is all "now you know how I felt" or some retarded self indulgent nonsense like that because the writer is retarded regarding this terrible ship that should have been dead a long time ago.
>>151586836Some current theories:>he'll attempt suicide or will get close to death some other way. In doing so he once again bonds with Lucy 'I NEVER WANTED THIS' whitecat>he'll somehow step in and protect Lucy and possibly others from Alejandro, which will make them all get closer again
>>151586887The difference is, Lucy was the cause of her own fucking unhappiness. Mike said harsh shit, but Lucy actively admits to not caring about ehr other friends despite what they do for her and then jumped despite the chance to fix her relationship with Mike. They can Skype or call and text blahblah. Mike made few annoyed remarks to lucy during hsi attmepts to seperate herself from Him.Lucy was actually involved in Mike being ostracized and guilt-tripping another party to do so when he needed it the most. Lettin' it stew is how we got OP. Man fuck David and James.Back to the topic, Lucy has actively engaged in fucking with Mike despite her lying about never wanting to see him suffer. Then that gaslighting bullshit about Mike elading her on or the gut kick to shit the fact that she beat him cause she couldn't explain her own fucking feelings.If Lucy wasn't a self-insert,, this would be strange how the comic will give Lucy leeway for wandering eye, latching onto people(in line in the sand, she did that literally), her fucking things up with Mike, and pyhsiclaly abusing him. Damn, this comic is a great way to not write a likable female character but a good one to write an antagonist.
>>151587033Yes, Lucy is a piece of shit who is a monumental bitch while having most everything handed to her on a platter. Just pointing out what's probably going to happen as retarded it'd be. Them getting together is basically a bad ending for both of them but especially Mike. Dude needs to completely free himself from both white cats and move the fuck on
why are there 2 daisy and lucy bots on janitorai, someone make some more characters goddammit
>>151585833This is so bad holy shit
>>151582617She's openly doing it out of spite, the only reason she didn't strong-arm the table into accepting Augustus sitting with them is because even Taeshi might recognize Paulo would never accept it, promise or not.
>>151586124That's why I'm still here. I HAVE to see how dumb this gets.I need to know if "at least your mother fucking loved you" will ever be topped - it has competition, but so far has held the throne.
Guess what she's holding above!Let me finish this up
>>151587615I don't think you can top that line. It's a perfect storm:> Consider how both paulo and Abbey's relationships with their mothers ended.>Paulo after all the bullshit with Abbey, gives the kid with the murdered mother that line.The only thing that would have made that line better if Abbey gave him an asswhooping. We can't top it cause any shifting on someone now is likely to be directed at Mike.Unless Haley wants to say some bullshit like " At least I was planned" or something to shit on Mike to a level beyond "line in the sand" it will stay king.
>>151587615"I feel sorry for your girlfriend" was up there.>James is blindly buying a story from two twats he doesn't know and his one interaction with Lucy was her being a cunt.>James gave so little of a shit about said girlfriend that he knowingly tried to steal Mike from her.The only way to make it less shit is to intentionally write James as a malignant narcissist who just used this as an excuse to ditch Mike while looking like the good guy
>>151587730In a better comic, Abbey letting it slide would be much more apparently out of pity as he realizes Paulo is not a malicious person, but just an all around fuckup with deep-seeded issues, and that getting mad or retaliating only drags himself down.
>>151585833I'm sure this is meant to read as sweet and cute but no it's just disgusting and toxic as the rest of Mucy.
>That pageHuh... So conspirator really did beat Taeshi to the punch with Mike killing himself.I'm still pretty fucking mad I'll never get to see the end of that comic.
>>151586752It would be a combination "I feel validated" and "Mike is getting his just desserts" smile.
>>151587699She's holding Lucy and about to do an atomic drop
>>151587699Pizza dough
>>151587033>The difference is, Lucy was the cause of her own fucking unhappinessIt amuses me how Taeshi's attempts to even Lucy and Mike out in that regard have been so artificial. She had to take Mike's brain and spine privileges away instead of actually finding faults within his character.
>>151588396>>151588412WRONG
>>151588673Kino all the same. Saved
>>151588673Strong Amy strong Amy
>>151586280No. There were some fun threads though. The gaybait arc and knicks mike (anybody still have those?) were highlights.
>>151578167I stand by my prediction. Fat Cat will be the one to destroy Lucyspace. Maybe not directly and maybe not intentionally, but she'll be the one that says or does something that causes it come crashing down.
>>151588821Mike's pretty small Anon, he's very easy to carry
>>151588673Excellent>>151588933Plus he's skipping meals already, you can probably pick him up with one hand at this point
>>151587786"I feel sorry for your girlfriend" is ridiculous and contradictory, but it's weakened by James being a shallow, recently-introduced character, who was incarnated into existence specifically to kickstart the arc that line was the climax of.Paulo and Abbey on the other hand are old characters, with established personalities and histories. Both of them had several arcs and plots under their belts. With all that weight behind them, "at least your mother fucking loved you" hit like a side-on collision. Basically what >>151587730 said.>>151587730I can think of a few things that might top it:>Augustus calling Mike the worst person he's met>Lucy telling Augustus he "doesn't know what it's like to be lonely/sad/desperate" or some variation>Mike saying "Sandy never really loved me, not like Lucy did"But really, the one I'm most looking forwards to is Mike and Lucy's NEXT confession to each other. I'm hoping that it'll be Eternal Flame 2.0, including a redux of "I never hated you", an immediate transition from sobbing for forgiveness into cringeworthy flirting, and a generally weird, creepy, and forceful atmosphere to what is supposed to be a romantic moment. Bonus points if Lucy ends up disappointed AGAIN and tries to go rape a THIRD random boy in her proximity.
It's frustrating that not even Mike's own sister is allowed to help him. Sure, most of the time she's just a brat, but EF proved that she still cares about her brother and is willing to help him when something is wrong. Taeshi is so keen on isolating Mike she'll bend the entire fucking universe in half to do so, just like how she'll bend it in half so Lucy can never face consequences for her actions in the long run.
>>151587615This. I'm just here, waiting for Mucy to happen. The sheer amount of mental gymnastics for this to happen. The enormous outrage among readers.It's like watching a car crash in slow-motion. The inevitable decline leading into a full on breakdown, and you always have a bunch of gullible retards trying to fool themselves.
>>151588673>Gold scarfNice little touch
>>151589469The threads will be absolutely bonkers when we get to see her being warped by Lucyspace in real time. The awful James pages from last chapter x10. The shitpost singularity.
>>151588673>>151588412Damn, the one holding the dough was Paulo all along. A lot of soft Cookie dough. And Mike got gold(ie) scarfed>>151589469Worse, if divorce of parents or some other tragedy happens, she will most likely be the one to tell Mike to focus on the family and everyone else instead of "that bitch on the phone that hurt you", attempt at helping bro backfiring due to her delivery and misunderstanding and Drama. Because Taeshi won't miss a chance to punish korat even more before Lucy shows her mercy
Waiting for Lucy to emotionally and spiritually kill Mike, only to realize too late that she'll never have Mike's love because she destroyed his capacity to feel.Combine that with Lucy's friends realizing she used them, and people learning about Augustus's SA, and we'll have a shitshow of massive proportions.
>>151590056>people learning about Augustus's SA??? Everyone knows about it.
>>151590169Anon, you underestimate Lucyspace. You can't even trust your memories. Hell, even old pages can change their mind!
>>151590169>Everyone knows about itNo they don't, anon.>b-butT h e y d o n ' t.
>>151590169Ironically, this one is from the noncanon book introduction so indeed only The Table knows about it
It'd be great if Lucy and Mike's parents learned about confrontation, and then mistakenly think Augustus is trying to isolate Lucy to attack her, or, even more emotionally wrecking for Lucy, is that she was and still is siding with Augustus against her friends.
>>151590221Even then, The Table is full of wamen who will babble out everything to the entire school
>>151590169>Report>"The person of interest appears to have some mild resistance to the reality deviant's influence. He is able to recall a pre-retcon history, but is seemingly unaware that a change has happened and shows confusion when confronted about it.">Can he be of use in our efforts to neutralize her?>"Doubtful. His potential is low, all he's able to do is remember small facts concerning the deviant's primary thrall, not the woman herself. That he has managed to slip through the cracks and avoided notice is impressive enough, but he'd be swiftly converted if he went into close proximity. He's no silver bullet.">Then?>"He's useless for the mission, and awakening is a long shot, but he may be worth extracting and put to work somewhere else. However, our situation remains the same. Operatives cannot approach the target without experiencing backlash, so we can only continue observing and waiting for a sleeper with potential to resist her to appear, contact them, and guide them so they can take care of the deviant.">What's the situation for our previous candidates?>"Michael resisted bravely, but I'm afraid nobody can endure a persistent assault by the deviant's full attention forever. He has succumbed. Paulo however, and to my great surprise, appears to be actually clawing his way out of the deepest levels of Lucyspace and back to a semi-rational state, which might actually indicate greater potential than simply resisting the effects.">"We might have found our man."
>>151586836On the most basic level, Lucy exists to be pitied and Mike exists to be clowned on. Lucy's suicide attempt and the resulting immunity to criticism do not interfere with her role, but Mike is different. When all the drama gets resolved and the group returns to the simulacrum of volume one dynamics that Taeshi loves so much, Mike isn't going to be able to play his part as the butt monkey if he tried to kill himself. He cannot be allowed to wear that armor. Ultimately I think Mike's arc is going to conclude with him regaining the emotional resilience to put up with being the butt of the joke like he used to, while nobody else will have to seriously change.
>>151585833That's very masturbatory and sad, holy shit
>>151585833I like how Taeshi tried to give Lucy a placid expression but instead she looks smug, can't help herself
>>151590169>>151590209That shit is revolting. Fucking Augustus gets praised as a nice dude now despite what he did, while Mike gets pulverized into oblivion for much less.Yeah I get that sperg Mike was annoying, but even so, it doesn't compare to a dude who actively, frequently, and gladly does what he can to be a scrote, like Augustus.Also, fuck those retcons man, shit's annoying as hell, too. The story becomes inconsistent and eligible to be completely changed at any given time.
>>151590670Better if we say that retcons aren't canon. They never were canon.
>>151590670Don't ya know anon? Assholes are cool and fun, women love em! That's why people like Augustus and Paulo, and also why they get most fanart.
>>151590670To the author, being an asshole and a rapist is being honest while being nice is being manipulative and evil.Unironically Lucy's ideal outcome during the Mike encounter where he wanted to hook up was for him to rape her. Bitch is nutso
>>151590806No wonder Lucy is paired with Alejandro so often.
>>151590829Being a slave is her dream, no more thinking for herself nor having to initiate, she can blame everything on someone else, her actions are not her own and neither are their consequences, and she doesn't need to give anything in return but whatever is demanded of her
>>151590893The good ending.
>>151590546>Ultimately I think Mike's arc is going to conclude with him regaining the emotional resilience to put up with being the butt of the joke like he used to, while nobody else will have to seriously change.God, that would just be an absymal ending to it all. "Nobody else had to change! You just have to toughen up! And don't you dare get mad at your circumstances! You might make one of your abusers try to kill themselves, and then YOU'RE the bad guy!"
>>151588847Lucy's entire scheme getting undone by the one girl she absolutely saw as beneath her would be amazing.
>>151589469when the parents start to divorcee, she's absolutely going to become nastier to him because she doesn't know how to deal with what's going on.She's absolutely going to say this is his fault, even if she regrets it later, and he's going to internalize it and it'll make him worse.
>>151590977Reeks of misogyny. Imagine the lesson being 'women shouldn't be treated as people with logic'. /s
>>151591034No no, according to Taeshi taking women seriously and being protective about them is misogynistic and that's why she hates Abbey
>>151591069Imagine BCB shifts into an antifeminist manifesto as Lucy proclaims her place is to be bred and produce pure white Khao Manee children.
>>151587615Oh I think a lot of folks are just here for the car crash tourism. This is a case study in BPD. It's fascinating to watch.
>>151591034A dear friend of mine once advised me that you must think of the majority of women's mental abilities as you would those of a small child. Capable of coming up with surprising insights per occasion and not entirely absent, but not quite fully there either.
>>151589469The logical course of action would of been Mike confiding in Abbey and Haley and maybe showing about what the two of them were doing all this time, but that would mean focusing on something that isn't Lucy-related and Taeshi refuses anything that doesn't revolve around her self insert.
>>151590893Slavery goes a bit far, but Lucy would do well as a 50's housewife. She craves the caring help of someone like Abbey's dad.>>151590947The theoretical second confrontation good ending
>>151590806>Being nice is manipulative.>But holding over my husband's head that he talked to another girl when we were 14 isn't.This bitch is cognitive dissonance incarnate.
>>151591583I think Lucy would practically worship a domineering man. I'm talking like a total 'this is my place' sort of deal.
>>151591588>>151591679Sometimes I wonder if Taeshi intends for Mike to end up as a "loveable" Suitcase-ish asshole.
>>151591557You have wise friends
>>151591560We witnessed the stagnant and frustrating nature of the Paulo show, are you sure you want the same to happen to some of the few likable characters left?
>>151592037To be fair, you can show what Abbey and Haley have been doing in a 3-6 page flashback with enough info. Paulo's show had numerous chapters and shit dedicated to him.
I expected a slowdown after LitS ended, but she's still pretty active on tumblr. Might as well burn some bump limit on these.We're still being held in suspense about "what Mike meant" during December, although personally I think it's pretty simple to draw a line between what he really meant and what was just ad-libbing hurtful shit. Initially I was going to put this down as another point towards Mike actually wanting Lucy dead, but technically he doesn't say that during December.
>>151592639It was both. He was venting pent up emotions but also wanted to do as much damage as possible.Honestly, there's nothing wrong with that because he's tried over and over again to make up for it.It's super easy to see what he was just saying to try and do the biggest damage.Instead of the comic going 'yeah mike was harsh but he had a point in there', it became "how dare you be so mean to lucy. Get ready for more than a decade's worth of mental and emotional torture as payback"
>>151592720>Instead of the comic going 'yeah mike was harsh but he had a point in there', it became "how dare you be so mean to lucy. Get ready for more than a decade's worth of mental and emotional torture as payback."Seriously, I get it was mean, but the comic always acts like Lucy was only a bit mean, Mike, or that he overreacted. She was many times just cruel for no reason.I know Lucy has issues expressing her feelings in a healthy way(for no reason), but seriously.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veronica_VeraI just found out how this is the writer of this comic and it is all making sense
Only a matter of time before this chapter is back to that slut of a male Daisy
>>151592639And this one's about what Mike actually said during Happy Hour. About what most of us assumed but in more detail.>her “pretending” to be okay when she got the news about Sandy’s visit - he fully believes she was lying through her teethNice to see I read Mike correctly about this, though I'm probably not intended to think he was as right as I do.>he wanted to isolate her and take all her friends away because she's not worth anythingSometimes it's hard to tell between Taeshi and I actually remembering the comic differently and her just conveying things clumsily because she doesn't really sweat the wording. From my memory, his main goal was just to fully separate from Lucy, and everything else only came up because Lucy said he would be alone. Whereas in this telling, his main drive was to isolate Lucy.Uh I'm not going to screenshot the third post I noticed, in part because it's just a reblog and also because it's entirely images, so it would be unintelligible in a reasonably-sized screenshot. But if anybody feels like checking the recent reblog from anonfelis, go ahead and let me know if it doesn't seem to make a coherent point. I assume it's supposed to bolster Lucy's pov, but half the screens seem either only tangentially related or counter to her claims.
>>151592639Well let's see here...the most masturbatory answer possible is that Mike was desperately denying his stubborn attraction toward Lucy Whitecat and projected his own insecurities onto Lucy. So modern Taeshi has almost certainly retconned it in her head accordingly.
>>151592849>She married artist Stuart Cottingham in 2012.SuitCasebros... not like this...
>>151592849>>151592919Same name, different person. The woman you linked did porn before taeshi was even born.>>151592876Based on the redraws and script changes, I get the feeling taeshi's interpretation changed over the years.
>>151592876>From my memory, his main goal was just to separate from Lucy fully, and everything else only came up because Lucy said he would be alone.Nah, you are remembering correctly, anon. Taeshi is simply doing the modern writer's thing of adding in bullshit after the fact to alter meanings. Mike, even in the December speech, didn't believe anyone would actually follow him. He pretty much admits to it, after all, if you were sure your friends would actually choose you, this line would never have been in the speech.
>>151592785>Seriously, I get it was mean, but the comic always acts like Lucy was only a bit mean, Mike, or that he overreacted. She was many times just cruel for no reason.That's probably why the page retcons started happening. I think she wanted characters like Abbey and Mike to be more 'In fault" on specific situations.to justify stuff like the "Manipulation and stringing along" mike is claimed to have done.But then not only is that just silly, but it makes me wonder what was the point of Lucy's abuse being played as serious in the first place? Why cop out about something that could just be resolved with Lucy realizing she was shitty to mike and trying to do better?Sure she tried around december, but the whole point of Tess was that even if you do feel bad for what you do and try to turn around, it could take time for that to happen.
Michael Greycat is a monster
>>151592876I would not read too far into these. I think the Lucy suicide knowledge back and forth shit aptly drmonstrates that Taeshi lacks a coherent perspective.
>>151592937You do have to admit, some chick with the same name who is from New Jersey and lives in NYC while notable enough for a wiki page is an insane coincidence
>>151592876>it's a good way to avoid facing any potential responsibility!But he HAS been feeling guilty and responsible since he heard about it! He's been like this for almost twenty years!Also this means she still fumbled the suicide because everyone should have put 2 and 2 together by now.
>>151592956>what was the point of Lucy's abuse being played as serious in the first place?Taeshi trying to be a real storyteller, back in the day. These days, implication that Lucy might be at fault for anything is kept largely theoretical.
>>151592956>But then, not only is that just silly, but it makes me wonder what the point of Lucy's abuse being played as serious in the first place? Why cop out about something that could just be resolved with Lucy realizing she was shitty to Mike and trying to do better?Because Lucy isn't allowed to change for the better or be in a negative context now. Plus, it also gives a lot of legitimacy to Mike's issues with everyone, even during sperg era. Lucy didn't hit him behind closed doors, anon. She did it:> When it was just the two of them>The pets> Their friends.>I think she even did it once to Mike in front of her mom when they were little.Paulo also liked hitting him. Daisy only appeared to sometimes help Mike cause she wanted to fuck him and outright ignored his wishes sometimes.Sue wasn't too awful in the past, but now she is a bigger Lucy lower than Jessica ever was. Its also kinda hard to write around:>A girl has been abusing a guy since they were little kids, and all their friends either joined in or ignored it.Without asking if they should be friends. I think Bullying mangas have these sorts of setups or background & someone usually ends up dead.
>>151592785>>151592720it's funny, at least daisy and paulo do acknowledge that they did mike wrong for not having his back but they still continue to shit on him for driving lucy away
>>151592990In a separate post she made a similar statement about the cast as a whole, not just Mike, with regards to the whole responsibility thing. Charitably you could assume she's just talking about everybody having something like survivor's guilt, not saying literally everyone is responsible for Lucy's refusal to care about anybody other than Mike.
>>151593047Mike snapping and strangling Lucy in a fit of rage after another barrage of her blatant abuse would probably be the best ending we could get at this point that'd fit with everything that has happened.It would recharacterize all of the ass kissing Lucy had been getting as enabling the part of herself that liked to poke bears, it'd show that bottling things up and exploding is bad and you need to set and strictly enforce your boundaries, it'd be a good subversion on all the fated lovers bullshit Taeshi keeps trying to force them in.Bad for Mike too but he's not really Mike anymore anyways, he's just a hollow shell.
>>151593218If the genderswap AU was real, Lucy would be hated.
Daisy really devolved as a character. Others remain the same, bashed to hell like Mike or are reset like Paulo. But Daisy? She lost all of her identity and goals
>>151593236Absolutely true.Can you imagine her (him, in this case) doing all that stuff she does, but as a dude? All the slapping, kicking, all the insults... people all over would be with pitchforks in hand.
>>151592983Taeshi is officially Veronica Vera the Lesser now
>>151590474I love Lucyspace.I also hate Lucyspace.
>>151593393It does kinda sound like a name a porn star would pick now that I think about it.
>>151593336A critical emotional plot point in this story is that Lucy, being a pretty girl consistently gets away with being an impulsive jerk. Due to the male domestic abuse victim double standard, Lucy's friends, as kind as they are, consistently become apologistic and shame Mike for not liking his abuser. By upholding their double standard, they would end the story quickly by condemning Lucy if she were a dude, or if Mike were the abuser. They would likely hang him, attack him back till he goes to therapy and is inevitably forced to go straight and control his emotions, then Lucy could forgive him making a happy ending.But that is too linear and predictable, if Mike's friends disregarded his male status and apologized for his abuse, it would baffle Lucy that nobody stands up for her, leading to a long term resentment resulting from her friends seeing the best in Mike, then maybe by this month (January 2009) they'd realize "Oh hey, I know Mike's a nice dude but beating Lucy to cope with his anger isn't really nice, we should talk to Lucy. Before she jumps off a bridge". It would just build stronger character flaws and stakes if Lucy's so called friends enabled a male abuser, especially since condemning a male abuser is colloqially a norm, as much as apologizing for a female abuser is.
>>151587615Watch Mucy never actually happens because Taeshi never ends the comic and dies of natural causes after cockteasing it for another 20+ years.
>>151593393I call her Taeshi if I have to distinguish her from the other, but I wish she was more well known. I'd love for critics to analyze her since she's my single biggest inspiration for writing drama, characterization, depth, personality, grounded subjectivity, ect. But it's satisfying that there's already a diverse collection of fanworks from fluff to horror darkfics to porn. She's got a dream fandom.
>>151593231Nah, Old Mike can come back, but it would mean actually letting it happen. The only reason it hasn't is that Taeshi won't let it. Remember, the sperg Mike was just something she did cause she can't have Mike issues taken seriously for long.>>151593336The girl Version Of mike sperging would be looked at increbile sympathetically. I don't even know if the comic could survive genderbending the cast.
>>151592785Oooh i would like to r63 this one
>>151593543>Remember, the sperg Mike was just something she did cause she can't have Mike issues taken seriously for longI'm pretty certain the reasons were>petty revenge for the misery her ego sock puppet endured>glazing said muppet without effective interferenceand then what you said.
>>151593543It wouldn't survive, the comic's built on misandry.
>>151593456Mucy might not happen for a simple reason; It would kill the comic and thus her income
>>151593584>>petty revenge for the misery her ego sock puppet endured>>glazing said muppet without effective interferenceBut you made the other puppet say that shit. The fuck is the point of punishing a character, inorganically, for shit you had them say?
>>151593543>I don't even know if the comic could survive genderbending the cast.I don't think it would.Like, I can imagine people thinking the female Mike maybe would've been a bit too harsh on the male Lucy in December for example, but many would think it justified due to the way male Lucy treated female Mike through all these years. Like you said, even the sperging would be tolerated.Female Paulo is also strangely more sympathetic than the real one
>>151593658>Jesse date rapes Paula just to be able to say he cucked her ex
>>151593658Also, Male Rach and Jesse passing around Paula to get back a tess likely would have gotten them written out of the comic. Also, the times Luke would try to force herself on a few characters would not get sympathy.> DecemberI think it would be way more in favor of Michelle, since:>Luke rejected her>It was revealed he has been hitting her for years.Nah, many would have told him to do a flip for abusing the cute tomboy who liked him for zero reason.
>>151593646>The fuck is the point of punishing a character, inorganically, for shit you had them say?You're talking about an author who is crazy. The author who was in the psych ward.Why do you ask such questions?
>>151593775I sometimes forget that Lucy wasn't the only one in the ward.
>>151593591Imagine it.>Michell's longterm will-they-won't-they "romance option" finally gets recognized as an abusive bully after a long stretch of male on female lol slapstick so funny wierdness>all of her friends take Luke's side>comic portrays his sadsackery as sympathetic>Michelle finally tells him off and tells him he's unlovable (categorically absolute truth according to the readership)>oh noes Lucas has oh so ambiguously tried to end his life so Michelle is now le sad>comic noodles around for years following Paula discovering she's bisexual or some shit>previously supportive cool handsome boyfriend starts ghosting Michelle>Lucas the shitty selfish abuser reappears following her prophetic dream>everyone is thrilled to see him because of course they are>Paula blames her for Lucas wanting to hang out with the goth chick who tried to reverse jailbait male Daisy >Lucas the shitty abuser who did one or two things right before vanishing from the comic tells Michelle to fuck off with her apology because it's not enough for him>proceeds to passive aggressively make her feel like shit>Michelle starts lashing out>everyone treats her like she's scum or just fucking annoying>Lucas lashes out and gets nothing but understanding and asspats>Paula's mad at him for like five minutes until he gives her a handsome boy apology so now she just hates Michelle instead
>>151578849>>151578836Mike pulls a consensual Genghis Khanesque influence in the school. But for real, the girls volunteering to share Mike is completely in character for them as we saw. At least if they're willing to try eighth grade harem idea again.
>>151593646Taeshi is a nutbag who ended up in the loony bin for a short spell because her fursona endured the consequences of her own actions. As inflicted by Taeshi.
>>151593593Actually, an unstable abuser dating a pushover, them both in a romantic and sexual relationship trying to make their dysfunction work before inevitably resolving or breaking up is enough to be a sustainably powerful arc of it's own, maybe even for like three months.
>>151593817Wasn't there an Ask Roseville where David said the real ending was an orgy?
>>151593805>>comic noodles around for years following Paula discovering she's bisexual or some shit> All that bullying was Paula's lesbianism.Also, I don't think we would even make it after Paul's show, unless it leans into the blind girl comics audience. Because attempting to make people care about Luke will fall flat on its face.>>151593817>At least if they're willing to try eighth grade harem idea again.Doing that and just making this furry western Girlfriend, Girlfriend with some furry ecchi for the money, would have led to a better webcomic. I said that, and it would make more money. You can even keep the therapy stuff.
>>151593864Yes, which I dream of but due to the rating and dysfunction, I doubt it's going to happen. As cathartic and corny as it would be. It's funny cause David's a cuckoo wishful thinker but metacommentary Davidpool is most likely aware that he's in a fictional story, which may contribute to why he doesn't pursue romance outside of shallow horny lust, but for that reason he knows how comical slash satisfying a conflict resolving/reluctant orgy at the end would be, whether it happens or remains a humorous joke.I wonder what Veronica thinks of it, she claims not to like polycules but could've also used David as a mouthpiece to hint that a part of her does, unless it was a joke made through his words.
I'm curious, does anybody on the discord talk about how this comic glorifies attempted suicide?
>>151593919Hey, it'd be really nice if they had one last slapstick chapter as the comic's finale. Bring back the pets, OCs, and give us one last bit of happiness.
>>151593791Lucy's mom body language and her expression make it look like she is about to fight Lucy or something>>151593805You know, I wonder if Taeshi has ever tried to imagine the whole situation but with genderswapped characters like this. If you genderswap, it becomes MUCH clearer for anyone to see that Lucy was and is being completely shitty, and that it makes no sense for people to favor her every time.Can you imagine Luke fucking kicking Michelle's ovaries over that Augusta thing?
>>151593962I'd prefer a cathartic, wholesome, fluff ending. Happy yes, but slapstick would be a slap in the face to the tone, it's what toned down the domestic abuse in earlier chapters, by failing to convey how much pain or trauma they can inflict. Going back to slapstick (for violence specifically) would go back on how consequential the character's physically violent actions were. Anything more than a gentle smack on the head or shoulder would most likely come under offense/assault. As much as I love shows like Amphibia, I have that violence related gripe with them cause once you introduce slapstick violence, it's very hard to ground the story like how Taeshi does with retrospection. At least she decently translated Lucy's and Mike's Indian Movie Main Character troped super strength.
>>151585833Man, I like toxic love stories but Lucy's such a nothing character, holy shit. She doesn't DO anything, she just lies there like a baby until Mike or Zach or Paulo or Augustus tell her what to do. Mucy has so little chemistry it just comes across like Mike has some kind of pathological tendency to limerence: he gets overcome by nostalgia and might-have-been crushes and thinks its love because he's never felt the real thing.
>>151594010I've seen the page around. Cobra Kai style
>>151594045I mean like more gags, like Kizuna's klutziness or the like.
>>151592876>let me know if it doesn't seem to make a coherent point.No, it does, the point is pretty clearly that Lucy is rewriting the narrative (in-universe) and projecting her regrets/mistakes onto Mike. The structure is: >[Specific claim/accusation Lucy made]followed by >[Example that shows she's wrong and/or did that thing herself]So Lucy claiming that Mike "strung her on" is followed by a page showing her gravitating towards Mike and being jealous. Lucy claiming that Mike "never actually stopped" is followed by a litany of examples of Mike very much committing to Sandy romantically and treating Lucy as a friend. Basically the point being made is that it was Lucy who kept rejecting Mike, kept clinging on to some vain hope that Mike would "come around" romantically, and who felt jealous and lonely when Mike treated her as a friend rather than a romantic interest.
>>151594045>it's what toned down the domestic abuse in earlier chaptersIt's what the domestic abuse literally was until Taeshi decided to "get serious." But not too serious if it threatens the self-insert - Lucy still hasn't been held accountable for what she's done to Mike OR Paulo.
>>151594168She's delaying Lucy being held accountable for as long as possible. Notice that Lucy is always given an excuse or out whenever she does something bad or wrong. Taeshi actually cannot deal with Lucy having to pay for her sins, even when it comes to simple culpability.
>>151591679Lucy is INTENSELY sexist, so I can totally see her falling into the tradwife/anti-feminist rabbit hole. It offers a narrative that'd be very appealing for her: it's not HER fault she's dumb and lonely - she's supposed to be dumb and she's only lonely because those darn feminists tricked everyone into liking girls with "personalities" who are able to "hold a conversation" and all that nonsense. Boys didn't reject her because she's insane and unlovable, but because they'd been TRICKED into not appreciating REAL femininity.
>>151594342It'd be hilarious if the comic became Shinzo Abe levels of 'be fruitful and multiply'. It'd be more entertaining than this snail's pace we're dealing with. Besides, I'd buy a hard copy of a comic where Lucy becomes a breeder.
>>151593219>Charitably you could assume she's just talking about everybody having something like survivor's guilt, not saying literally everyone is responsible for Lucy's refusal to care about anybody other than Mike.There's a very serious chance she means that they weren't able to read her mind and understand what they needed to do to help her. There's an odd byline in this story that people who act like dickheads will cross boundaries but at the end of it all the have your best interest in mind, Almost better than you do.
>>151594373In this hypothetical it's 50/50 on whether Lucy ends up barefoot and pregnant with an abusive partner, or ends up a bitter femcel grasping for increasingly delusional copes.Or she could split the difference and end up a bitter single mother.
>>151593805
>>151594534Split the difference, Hatesex sessions from Mike end up with Lucy popping out Kittens until her mind gives out.
>>151594161The foundation of Mucy is Lucy going:>"I broke up with the boy I physically abuse, why hasn't he raped me yet? I'm going to kill myself over this (oh, and him finally snapping at me).">survives>"Everyone (including Mike) treats me like a fragile princess, but Mike still hasn't raped me. I can't NOT abuse Mike, so now I'm going to torment him over my own decision to kill myself (which suddenly I don't feel like doing since I have almost everything I want now) until he finally decides to rape me."
>>151594312As much as I want the Mike suffering to end, I think the only way to get Lucy to face any consequences for her actions is for her to do something permanent to him that can never be swept under the rug or reframed as something that was his fault. Have some inverse of the bridge scenario where Lucy pushes Mike off in front of everyone and he winds up with a permanent limp, unable to do track.
>>151594342I can easily imagine Lucy as an adult going:>Sue and Daisy have partners who respect them, yet I am still alone? How could this happen??>Is it because they developed themselves into compassionate, intelligent, interesting, capable, and honorable people, while I coast on being attractive and outsource all my decision-making to men?>No, it's society which is wrong.>>151594634I consider pic related to be canon to how Lucy will raise any children she has.
>>151594589I wanna strangle the white cat even more.
Men can take it fookin chuds. Stronger gender and all that.
>>151594589If this was real, everyone would be calling for Luke's blood.
>>151594811>Have some inverse of the bridge scenario where Lucy pushes Mike off in front of everyone and he winds up with a permanent limp, unable to do track.He'd be lucky if he gets off with just that. Dude might have to change how he eats, his general posture, and everything.
>>151593591>>151594342I don't think it's appreciated enough how much Taeshi just hates other people in general. And not in the "I'll insult anyone" way, but the "I believe all empathy and kindness is manipulative because I am neurologically incapable of being a good person or caring about anyone but myself" way.Given his behavior over the years, this is a propensity she actually shares with Suitcase.Don't for one second thing that means they actually like each other, though.
>>151594811>Have some inverse of the bridge scenario where Lucy pushes Mike off in front of everyone and he winds up with a permanent limp, unable to do track.Well, Paulo was Male Lucy for a long time, so she's due for her own "Laughing at your enemy being injured and having everyone look at you like you're a psychopath"
>>151591144BCB already sometimes reads like an anti-feminist manifesto:>All girls are WHORES>All boys want sex - if they say they don't they're LIARS>Respecting women is lame and gay>Daisy's life is a neverending humiliation ritual because she's fat>"He only bullies you because he likes you. You know, that typical boy-boy relationship thing.">Being forceful is fine if they're into it (and they will be, because as previously mentioned all girls are whores and all boys want sex)>Boys can take it>It's not abuse if there's love>No sometimes means yes>Boys will be boys, girls will be girls, what are you gonna do, they're just dumb teenagers :)It's like one of those dark satires of the 50s that amps up the sexism and violence, but in BCB's case it's not done with the intention of making a point, it's just unironic.
>>151590947Damn I miss SC, I'd give anything just for some slice of life one shots from SST.
>>151595692BCB is a female empowerment fantasy about boys learning their lessons for "mistreating" girls (and gays) through supposedly deserved suffering. Femcel gold.Because it's so blatant and over the top, incels read it as validation for their terrible opinions and personalities. Unfortunately, we seem to have gotten the incels while the femcels have gathered in the "official" channels.
>>151588673Huzzah
>>151595785lucy torture only works if taeshit doesn't try to give her an out like she did last chapter with the "For augustus" thing
>>151595785What's strange to me is that the femcel wish fulfillment I'm aware of both from cultural osmosis and from doing critical readings of schlock in a gender studies class generally fall into two categories:>"Who needs men, am I right fellow lesbians?" written by a woman who's clearly straight or bi>One or more "perfect men" fall in unconditional love with a woman and start improving her lifeBoth of which make obvious sense, and genderflipped inversions exist targeted at men. But BCB doesn't fit: Lucy desperately needs a man or she breaks down, and Mike isn't husbando-bait material (maybe in the early comic, but certainly not now).I just don't get the appeal when Lucy and Mike are BOTH miserable losers. Even from a (in/fem)cel perspective they're not relatable, because they have plenty of options (including "I don't need boys/girls, I'm on that sigma grindset"), but they don't like any of them. What's the point of wish fulfillment fantasy when it's something no-one wishes for?
>>151588948That gives me an idea.
>>151596557It doesn't fit because it's universal hate. See >>151595440 - Taeshi is just a generally hateful, misanthropic person. Everything that isn't her self-insert or actively praising her (either Lucy or Taeshi) must suffer.And personally, I've never fully bought that she self-inserts as Mike. I think she saw Mike getting sympathy and became personally jealous of it (any sympathy to anyone should instead belong to her - it's a very BPD response), so "she's totally Mike, too, guys." The incomprehensible way Lucy is treated in Lucyspace (characters punished for not reading her mind, waiting on her every word, following her around explicitly to say nice things to her without any thoughts of their own) is how Taeshi herself wants to be treated. It's what she thinks "friends" are supposed to be. Threatening suicide is supposed to get her everything she ever wanted.It's Taeshi's wish-fulfillment, not the audience's, but because it's how people with BPD think, it accrues an audience of similarly broken individuals who can relate to that absolutely insane wish. That biased selection also explains why the curated fanbase struggles so immensely with judging characters without writing them off as pure evil or extolling them as pure good - that's BPD splitting 101. This applies to both Lucyfags and some (albeit fewer) Mikefags, BTW - both character fanbases have almost certainly attracted immature kids or people with BPD, because if you're not just here to watch the train wreck, that's who the comic appeals to.
>>151596557the world is not black and white, there's a truth to what you are saying but it doesn't need to fit into anything specific
>>151597260I'm one of the people that thinks she does self-insert as Mike to a degree, but not the way people think.Every character she writes has to make sense from her BPD perspective. For Mike, she writes how a BPD person views the world, in that he didn't do anything wrong but everyone's rallying against him for no reason and blindly believing the person accusing him of what he believes to be total bullshit. Mike is how a BPD person views the consequences of their actions, and just like with Lucy he's in a narrative that twists around itself to remove the reasonable causes and effects.With Lucy, the consequences of acting BPD are removed from the actions she commits.With Mike, the consequences of acting BPD come to him despite him not committing the required actions.Two sides of the same coin.
>>151594161I picked up on that for some of them, but not others. Maybe Lucy's argument being all cut up and out of order threw me off.>Lucy claiming that Mike "never actually stopped" is followed by a litany of examples of Mike very much committing to Sandy romanticallySee here's another spot where I'm confused. I had a little trouble remembering Lucy's line of reasoning just from the bits in the post, so I reread the scene to see what she was talking about him "stopping." She's actually talking about him sending letters to Sandy after she left. The excerpts posted after that bit don't have much to do with the letters that I can see. If you instead address the more general complaint that Mike never really got over Sandy, then the examples would seem to confirm that instead of refuting it.Although the compilation does include the scene where Mike apologizes to Lucy during dodgeball, and I don't know how you could include that - knowing how early into the comic it is - and still come down on Lucy's side.
>>151597458>With Lucy, the consequences of acting BPD are removed from the actions she commits.>With Mike, the consequences of acting BPD come to him despite him not committing the required actions.So Mike is suffering in the place of Lucy?
>>151597714Not in place of Lucy, just suffering in general. This isn't some Lucyspace-esque cosmic read on the comic, I just mean that Taeshi probably doesn't get how her BPD actions make people hate her ass and just self-pities, and that's what she channels into Mike. She just doesn't do the required legwork to make him receive such hate.
>>151598051>I just mean that Taeshi probably doesn't get how her BPD actions make people hate her ass and just self-pities, and that's what she channels into Mike.Hasn't he been in therapy before? Shouldn't she have some idea of what actions make people view her less positively?
>>151597458I agree that that's the effect. I think in both Mike and Lucy's and to a lesser extent Paulo's cases, the characters are sympathetic *to her*, because "Woe, my friends are disloyal betrayers, the world is against me through no fault of my own, thus I must act like a huge asshole" is something that makes total sense to someone with BPD. But to anyone who isn't properly tuned in to that weird, paranoid worldview, it just comes across as characters randomly flip-flopping between "Fuck you, I've got mine - btw we were never friends :)" and "Why does everyone hate me, I'm so nice and vulnerable :(".>>151597581I *think* the implication with Lucy's little speech isn't that Mike "never stopped" writing Sandy letters, but that he never stopped "stringing her (Lucy) along", it just got muddled because Lucy was speaking in clipped sentence fragments. So the tumblr post is showing that A: Mike didn't manipulate Lucy into being "convenient", she was the one approaching him despite knowing he was still hung up on Sandy, B: Lucy was the one rejecting Mike, not the other way around, and C: Lucy claimed to be fine with Mike's relationship so long as they could stay best friends, which Mike very much tried to, going to great pains to avoid and apologize for flirting with Lucy even incidentally.Incidentally I think the dodgeball chapter is probably the best example of Mike and Lucy being good friends that isn't a retcon - Lucy is mad that Mike is in denial, Mike finally accepts that Sandy is his girlfriend, Lucy is huffy but relieved, Mike apologizes for making her uncomfortable, Lucy shows concern for his well-being and defends him against Paulo pelting him with dodgeballs. All in all it's a pretty sweet moment, though it does end up being one of the more egregious marks against Paulo.
>>151598090Lucy's worship in the comic despite all her bullshit disputes this. If Taeshi really learned from that therapy Lucy would either be actually trying to be nicer to people, or she'd have burned all her bridges and have to eat her lunch alone.
>>151598153>or she'd have burned all her bridges and have to eat her lunch alone.I think that's the next arc, actually. Keep in mind that of the non-Mike characters, only Paulo has actually experienced Lucy's paranoia, hostility, and inconsistency. Lucy's been casually mean to Sue, Daisy, Augustus, plus Jordan and his friends, but thus far played it all off as either "jokes" or "wanting space", so they're still unaware of the genuine malice behind it. But now she's in close proximity to them all, so it's only a matter of time until she starts blowing up at them again, and she's not going to be able to blackmail them all like she did Paulo.
>>151588948All midges need amazonian gfs.
>>151598728You have no idea how badly I want that to be the next arc, but the hope isn't there anymore.
>>151599019CUTE!
>>151599019EAT AMY'S MEAT, MIKE
>>151599019What's the artist name?
>>151599261Call me Ishmael.
>>151599261trashbadger
>>151578388I'm going to say something that a lot of people here aren't going to like Let me just clarify up front that I don't necessarily consider this comic to be very good or anything, but like 90% of the criticisms of it you'll find on this board are just retarded A character can do bad things without being immediately punished without it being an indication that the author "approves" of their actionsHonestly the criticisms this comic gets on this board feel like they're coming from a bunch of angry teenagers, which is concerning when you realize that actually most people here are 20-40 years old
>>151599565It's been over a decade without Lucy facing consequences for her abuse. We're just a tad burnt out is all.
>>151599666What abuse lmao, she hasn't done anything to Mike since she came back.
>>151599565No that's wrong because my viewpoint is objectively correct, so if the author doesn't write characters that think like me, they're dumb
>>151599718it changed from physical abuse to psychological torment and physical threats by proxy via augustus
>>151599718>i stopped abusing you (ignore me trying to drive a wedge between you and your best friend) and almost killed myself, therefore i am absolved of everything
>>151578766Bruh
>>151599666>>151599738Stop replying to these guys, they're trolling. They have no arguments, they just fancily word "you're wrong lol" while slipping insults in.
>>151599565There's a honest difference between "the character has done bad things, but that doesn't mean the character has to face punishment" and "the character is very unlikeable, has no real reasons to receive as much support as he does, and none of the recipients of his behavior act against it". No one would be complaining if Lucy was outright pretending to be a nice person or if the rest of the characters liked her for her hostile attitude, the main complaint is that she doesn't get reactions that make sense, nevermind retribution. The author can only push that so far before someone complains something feels fucky about it
>>151599666that's true but then again honestly the story just moves at a glacial paceThat being said I do think that more Lucy suffering for her sins is on the way. I mean the last chapter just made it very blatant that all her vaunted "progress" and her feeling sorry for abusing Mike is bullshit. She kicked him in the gut for trying to explain himself, and I think that was done very intentionally to demonstrate that for all that she acts high and mighty and over things she actually hasn't really improved
>>151599738>Lucy trying to avoid Mike is psychological torment>Augustus bringing up Mike's past is a physical threatLmaoMikefags are so delusional they'll tell you Lucy ignoring Mike during a dodgeball game is psychological torment, but in the next breath tell you Mike gaslighting Lucy into thinking everyone hates her is fine because Mike was le angery
>>151599784I think I would actually like Lucy as a character if the narrative treated her like the villain she has been acting as. Any altruism she once had went to live on a farm with the pets.Does she actually care about anyone around her at the lunch table? Or did she just want it because Mike had it and she wanted that potential support network for herself?>>151599827I guarantee the kick has been forgotten by the author and the sycophants. It'll probably never be mentioned again. Case in point, >>151599718.Best case scenario for Paulo being mad at Mike later is probably being mad that Mike didn't tell him Lucy kicked him in the gut, which is how we can be certain it will never happen.
>>151599885>I've been waiting 10 years for Lucy to face consequences for the thing she just didRetard alert
>>151599565A lot of people take this shit way too personal and get too heated about it. But it's also a little hard to expect a pivot towards Gus and Lucy being put under serious scrutiny, especially with Tae running interference for Gus on her socials at several points. Like yeah the thing you're describing is hypothetically possible, even getting hinted at occasionally, but I'll believe it when I see it.
>I think everyone who replies to me is the same personRetard alert
>>151599911Spergouts can be funny (remember the anon who thought posting a random screenshot of his captcha and somebody else's cut off post was a good way to win an argument?), but obvious bait like that post never is.
>>151599885Honestly I really do not at all think Taeshi forgot about the kick. It actually gave me hope because I think it was a very intentional plot choice on her part and indicates she's well aware Lucy is not a very good person now. Like that whole confrontation could have played out with Lucy coming out as far more blameless, but Taeshi made a very obvious choice emphasized by multiple pages that Lucy was resuming her physical abuse of Mike
>>151600048I hope you're right, but it's a small, dying hope.
>>151599885That's the core issue of Lucy isn't it? Nowhere is shown why she's as beloved as the narrative tells you she is, her intentions are never clear, she has no goals not motives, everything just happens to her and she only has to react to it, others take initiative on her behalf, and she reaps the benefit begrudgingly. People go "you just hate her character" and I ask what character?
>>151600076I mean, it could be that I'm wrong. I'm not super invested in the comic; every few years I go on a reading binge and catch up on it. It's just that Lucy physically abusing Mike, and that abuse being taken seriously, was such a central aspect of the comic's biggest twist and claim to fame. If years later, physical abuse from Lucy towards Mike is actually just handwaved away, treated as a joke or justified, it would actually be such a humongous bizarre reversal plot-wise that I just can't see it happening. Like even in the domain of other plot reversals this would be even more fundamental. It would be like Captain Ahab randomly deciding that actually he didn't care that much about Moby Dick after all and retiring from sailing
Wow I can't believe this giant newfag just figured out how to spoiler and won't stop spamming the thread with it
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>>151599019Thank you anon! This is lovely
>>151600025 man I did that once, it said to kms and I actually thought it was a funny sign from the board to leave /bcb/ :(
>>151600212Unfortunately we've seen plenty of incomprehensible turns before. For all we've been told meta-wise James was supposed to be sympathetic.The cynic in me says Lucy's suicide attempt was mainly to wipe her slate clean and move towards even less self-aware wish fulfillment, because Taeshi's never really had the guts to have Lucy face real, lasting consequences. I'm pretty sure Taeshi even retconned some of Lucy's casual physical abuse out of the comic.I think it's going to end up like her slapping Paulo to shut him up. There was certainly no reckoning for it, and it's largely forgotten.Lucyspace amnesia. It'll get us all if we're not careful.
>>151600349See, that kinda makes sense. The aforementioned anon was... well, nobody had a clue what he was trying to do or say. The screenshot was genuinely incomprehensible. I loved it.Pretty sure it was the same guy who, when somebody said something like "people with this dumb idea are retarded" immediately self identified as a "dumb idea"-haver by whining that he'd personally been called a retard.
>>151599565You would be correct in 99% of cases. The issue is that Taeshi outright states that Mike deserves to suffer every bit of humiliation and torment that Lucy inflicts upon him, and that Lucy has never done anything wrong, so we do not FEEL like the author approves of their actions, we KNOW she does.
>>151599875>MikefagsAh, back again eh?
>>151600748she doesn't do that though
>>151578564"Bittersweet Candy Bowl"
>>151599019Should we all be so lucky to one day possess a partner who so dedicates themselves to our well-being, even when despair and self-loathing has so sapped our self-preservation that many others would throw up their hands and attempt to flee what is clearly a sinking ship.
>>151599019>>151599143Cute girlfriend meat with a side of milk (boobs), lol. But in all seriousness Mike has to suffer and the fact that he's happy and being cared for means this ain't gonna happen. Yet.>>151599498I love their art.>>151599565The whole fucking point of the story is that a flawed character does bad things, yeah, and that the universe rewards her for it. It's like the central conflict, not a moral agenda. I stopped trusting 99.99% of so called internet "criticism", they're deeply rooted in bias and hate and I seldom find anything that's remotely constructive. Fiction can be about any theme, cause it's not real. Anything can happen to tell a story.
>>151599565Don't worry anon, I agree with you.Some of the problem is common to the medium - webcomics are notorious for both bizarre clashes of tone AND for release schedules that utterly bork the intended pacing, and BCB suffers from both. If read as a finished product rather than as pages release, it's not NEARLY as awful.But the tone IS a total mess. And it still gets frustratingly dumb, like how characters keep getting teleported around as convenient.
>>151602356BCB has less of a "release schedule" and more of an "ooze" given the tiny amount of time covered by the story. Even for webcomics, BCB is insanely slow for a work that doesn't just leave the timeline static.We just spent six pages in a hallway with a half-dozen different angles of Mike's chin. It's paced like a pitch drop experiment.
>>151600048Well, yeah. But at the same time... so what? Taeshi made a point on her tumblr a long time ago that Augustus never actually apologized for trying to groom Daisy, he just tried to excuse himself and then fished for pity. And then... nothing, everyone's chill with him except Paulo and Abbey (who barely even exists now, and only shows up to make Paulo feel good about himself). Taeshi makes reasonable points, then she doesn't follow up on them, then she changes her mind and stops caring about the point she was making.
>>151603877I'll admit, the last time I read through the pacing was still weird, largely because there's very few indicators of how much time has passed between chapters. But it was a lot less frustrating:>Paulo seems less reset-prone (he still is but it's a lot less egregious)>Lucy seems less like the golden child (characters do frequently express discomfort and/or frustration with her random hostility)>Mike seems less like the world hates him (in most cases it's his own overactive sense of guilt making him pessimistic)But the tone switches between funny and maudlin still clash horribly, and the plot is pushed forward largely by psychic phenomena such as teleportation, telepathy, premonitions, shared dreams, and mind control.
>>151604297Did taeshi change the text here? I dont remember the last part of dialogue being like that
>>151604733Yeah, it used to say "A fuckup who doesn't know how to be gay with anyone anymore"
>>151592785ahahah THIS is comedy 101 you all should learn from taeshi!!Also all men suck and deserve a good beating
>>151592785>the comic always acts like Lucy was only a bit mean The comic's entire claim to fame is that it treated Lucy's slapstick tsundere abuse seriously and Mike came to hate her for it
>>151601257Funny how much this unintentionally applies to Alejandro x Lucy.
>>151606778BEANS!
>>151605726Great edit, anon! Stu looks really dorky with the ponytail. Good job.
>>151606778Lucy literally biting the hand that feeds her
>>151586124>I think a lot of us when we fatalistically admit that Mucy is endgame don't really grasp how awful that will look when it finally does happen.i only EVER started reading this fucking comic for the promised mucy shipat this point i dont even care how it happens i just want to fucking see it already
>>151608149>started reading this fucking comic for the promised mucy shipLOL ya got some shit taste there, buddy
>>151608161NTA, but I too was only in it for the Mucy. Before it went rancid, then somehow turned into radioactive waste that gives you Ebola.
>>151608161it doesnt matter to mei am the master of stockholm syndrome i will eventually win
>>151608217If by "win" you mean "continue to suffer."
>>151608149I don't know how you're still holding on. Stuff like your pic used to give me the warm fuzzies, but now it just makes me depressed. And even back when I liked this stuff I knew Lucy's "love" was more like obsession and she was more attracted to Paulo. Now things are fubar and the knowledge that Taeshi is leaning more towards Mucy just saps the minuscule enjoyment I get from bcb.
>>151608217Win what? Shit on the platter?
>>151606778Alejandro is the whitest mexican dude ever, imagine how his eventual child with Lucy is gonna look
>>151608359one mans trash is another mans 9 year long sunk cost fallacy
>>151606778Speaking of Lucy's self loathing, i'm glad Square didn't take the chastity belt route for the orgasm denial arc. So many of her problems in the comic are self inflicted, and to have Lucy desperate for relief, despite nothing physically stopping her makes a neat allegory to that.>>151607426To be fair, the hand is feeding her with revenue that she earned from her cam show.
in the event Mike DID actually get a girlfriend like Amy or even StacyHow long could it even last?I dont think mike himself would deliberately do anything to mess up, but what are the chances Augustus and Lucy, or even fucking James pops up to go "Hey, you know this guy is a manipulator, right?"I honestly wouldn't be surprised if James started blabbing to other people about it and it traveled through school.
>>151595753Was working on the fic about the characters from Jessica's play but lost interest halfway through. Maybe one day. There are only so many ways I can write about these terrible characters.>>151608605My idea was for Lucy to be almost entirely restrained by self control (motivated by vague threats and punishment, of course). I was also gonna add Sue in the mix who would be controlled physically with restraints/locks/etc to provide a contrast but that shit went on for way too already
>>151608149I was never a Mucy believer. Even when I first read this comic it was obvious that Mike and Lucy's affection was more akin to a crush that had soured and metastasized than actual love - Lucy's a hypercompetetive tsundere, and Mike's an earnest "nice guy" (un(?)ironic). Pucy and Maisy were the main-character ships with compatible chemistry, but for some reason Taeshi shot those down ASAP, and every time they start regaining some buoyancy she shoots them again.>>151608605>To be fair, the hand is feeding her with revenue that she earned from her cam show.Something something labor theory of value.
>>151608149>>151608190>>151608320>>151608161Not gonna lie, way back in the day I only started to read the comic due to the promise of the Mucy ship, too. I am a sucker for romance, and at the time, like about 15 years go, it seemed like a cute cat comic with sweet moments and the possibility of people in it eventually working things out between them and getting together in the end. At the time, the thing read as a typical 'tsudere in denial of her feelings' story.But as the years went by, it devolved into an unrecognizable mess. The promise of the eventual and unavoidable Mucy ship is there, but at this point, is it even worth it? Things have been so awful between them, I don't know how things can possibly go well for them anymore at this point... and yet, I only still read the story because I am curious on how the fuck it will be handled in the end.
>>151610720>devolvedBtw picrel ain't how your typical "tsundere" acts, so don't bother bringing up that angle
>>151610879Yes it was maybe a bit extreme for those used to more tame version of it, but this sort of thing was not unheard of in mangas.It happened in Love Hina, for example, and Love Hina is an absolute classic. I risk to say that Taeshi probably took inspiration from it.
>>151610879You've clearly never read Manga before.
>>151611014>>151611153"MC is always getting beaten up by the tsundere" plays a huge part in that trope and in manga (or at the very least, older mangas), it's always played for pure comedic value. The problem is that Taeshi tried to subvert that by painting it as actual abuse, and it IS a cool subversion of the tsundere trope... but then you remember that Taeshi can't write for shit and, by attempting that subversion, shot herself in the foot more than anything.
>>151611014Love Hina is the shit that redefined tsundere archetype into being an obnoxious sperg.It went from tsun-into-dere(Mokoto, kinda) to all tsun, no dere (Naru)
>>151610879>>151611479I think the slapstick in BCB (and maybe in manga, I dunno) is best thought of as an exaggeration of the real phenomena where sometime around 8-12, kids suddenly get strong and big enough to seriously hurt themselves or others, but they don't know it yet, and still have all the playful energy of kids. Some very easily grasp that and start exercising more restraint, others get really into sports as an outlet, but a lot have a transitional period where they or others get hurt.And some kids react to those incidents with "C'mon, I didn't hurt you. Why are you mad?" because from their perspective, they're doing the same things and playing the same games they always did - but now they're like twice as strong and heavy as they were a couple years ago.
>>151611479>>151611845>>151612220This tsundere (or any other girl) beating the protagonist is not (or at least, classically it wasn't) meant to be something serious, it was supposed to be a slapstick, highly exaggerated thing for comedic purposes.I think BCB started off with something like that in mind (as I said, Taeshi probably took inspiration from LH or other similar stuff), but in time the story devolved into something more 'serious'; it tried to turn that slapstick aspect of the archetype into something more real, instead of being just a gag.I'd respect the decision of turning the gag into something serious, but the way I see it, the 2 problems with it is that>Lucy never did face the consequences of her physical abuse>It felt a kind of unnatural for it to be treated as something seriousSo in short, it's sad to see the trope being corrupted and used the way it did, specially because Mucy is likely the intended end goal no matter what; now we have two broken characters forced to love each other no matter what.
>>151613300>Lucy never did face the consequences of her physical abuseBut she did? Lucy lost Mike and suffered intense emotional distress. Of course Taeshi later lessened its impact by "repaying" Lucy, as if she had suffered unjustly.
>>151608923>A fic about the characters in the playI'm surprised you got even halfway into it without getting bored
>>151614046I meant more like the fact that she was never held accountable for that abuse by anyone. Nowadays in the comic, everyone just berates Mike all the time, meanwhile everyone jumps in immediately to defend Lucy.No one ever said something like 'Lucy, what you did was shitty, you were never true to your feelings, and you pushed him away all the time. You only ever sought him when he was in a relationship with someone else', and worst of all, Lucy herself would probably punch or scream at whoever said that, instead of being humble, admitting to the fact, and apologizing to Mike and others wholeheartedly.No, she attempted suicide, so now she has no more blame, no fault, nothing to apologize for, and if you disagree, than you are an absolute monster, according to this comic's logic.
>>151608149Honestly there was a time I'd say the same, but the characters in your image don't exist anymore.
>>151614046The closest we ever got to anyone acknowledging it was >>151593218, it just got shrugged off.
>>151614046Those are not consequences. You say she "lost" Mike like she owned him - that's not really a consequence to her specifically, that's a mutual consequence at best (assuming Mike didn't hate her the whole time - which he didn't). And even there, it's a consequence that has been walked back by the author in terms of both how much it has affected Lucy and how permanent it actually was.Her intense emotional distress was a result of her unhealthy dependence on possessing Mike, and Mike continuing to survive the abuse to enable her offers no guarantee that something else wouldn't have set her off later on. Lucy's (now miraculously cured, since she's mostly gotten her way since attempting suicide - excellent message, Taeshi) breakdown is ALSO not a consequence of her abusive behaviors - it's a different thing entirely.She hasn't been held accountable at all.
>>151606778Remember to spay and neuter your pets!
>>151617302*pest
>>151617389Spaying Lucy would be cruel. Every future of hers involves at least one unplanned pregnancy, it's like her life purpose
>>151617492The kids are better off unborn.
