No, I'm not letting this go. This was without a doubt the WORST fucking thing Marvel, hell television, has made this year (or the past 5 years).
Every time this gets brought up, I think about how someone said that this was a villain origin story dressed up like a super hero story. Makes me laugh every time.
>>151586046She's such a cunt in thisThis is terrible, really really bad, but it's still not the worst. That's Secret Invasion
>>151586046It's a toss-up between this and She-Hulk.She-Hulk was genuinely one of the worst shows I had the displeasure to see, no exaggeration.
>>151586046At least the background in the poster isn't half-bad.
Remember all the shills defending this like she was Mother Teresa?
>>151586046The actress is very ugly. Like ghetto-like ugly. Why Marvel can cast attractive actresses at least?
>>151586046>based on Bendis slop>it's badWOWEE WHO COULD'VE EVER EXPECTED THAT?
>>151586135>>151586152No Ironheart is WAY worse by a country mile. The most unlikeable fucking character I've ever seen. Entitled, selfish, stupid, wanked, and legit a psychopath. Legit this guy is right >>151586094, its a goddamn villain origin story
>>151586152She-Hulk was literally The Last Jedi but 9 hours long.
>>151586318Rick and Morty writers were a mistake.
Acolyte is worse.IronHeart has a TERRIBLE main character.But at the very least the story tries to make sense and events follow a logical progression.Acolyte has such a stupid writing team that getting knocked unconscious is something that happens like 7 times across 8 episodes just to get the plot going.
>>151586094Most of these hack writers are basing these stories on themselves, so it makes you wonder if they slowly realize they're the asshole and the villain of their own life.
>>151586153Having to look At Dominique Thorne's mug? I think the fuck not.
>>151586046>Every dream has a costExcept for Riri, She's gonna get out of this whole thing Scot-free.
>>151586407>getting knocked unconscious is something that happens like 7 times across 8 episodes just to get the plot going.I swear, there was a comic with a villain duo that got up to this exact thing. The Gimp and the Claw, I think.
>>151586407>Acolyte has such a stupid writing team that getting knocked unconscious is something that happens like 7 times across 8 episodes just to get the plot going.Honestly I never believe in watching things ironically. Like so bad it's good, but Acolyte is just so terrible you can't help but laugh. As a star wars show. I think it's as offensive as you can get. As a syfy show, it's pretty terrible. As a show with people who genuinely thought from start to finish they were making something good, it's fucking hilarious.
>>151586046So many people ran defense for this show. Riri Williams never has been and never will be a good character.
>>151586046I just love how time and time again she claims to be better than stark if she had access to his resources, but he built his better performing first suit more than a decade prior while in a cave with a box of scraps.
>>151586046Ya know the "BOX OF SCRAPS!!!" rejoinder to Riri dissing Tony? Apparently, the brain trust who shilled this show clapped back with "A box of scraps that cost billions." These fags really will sink to any low for a cheap come back, probably why it never caught on. Also gotta love how they can't account for the fact Tony (and Yinsen) also had to build the first suit with proverbial eyes over their shoulders and guns to their backs. Every defense of Riri only further high lights her sociopathic narcassism.
>>151586919Something to keep in mind is that Acolyte had a budget of $180M but apparently it cost $230M, not including marketing.In comparison they gave the Kenobi show a budget of only $90M.
>>151586950yeah but she has to be a black woman in a white mans world
>>151586287Nah, She-Hulk and Ironheart are basically the same show. An unlikable cunt pretending to be a superhero while doing nothing actually heroic.
>>151586046Worst thing SO FAR.
>>151586988You just know that square faced bitch took more than a little off the top for her and her plasticine statue of a girlfriend. Hope they don't beat each other too hard tonight.
>>151586976>The box of scrapsWere leftovers off the bombings and weapons used on the countey. Symbolism of Tony career and he goes against it to create something with the intent of saving someone. Riri being proud she built an iron man suit out of stolen iron man parts is like me saying I made a car by stealing parts from ford factory.
>>151587001IronHeart is an active supervillain during most of the show.She saves nobody that she didn't personally endanger herself first.Riri is a character that chose to join a violent criminal gang rather than take a high paying engineering job.
>>151587001You're comparting apples to oranges. They're not the same show at all
>>151586046>The past 5 yearsStill why I love item 47. It features a guy who's smart enough to reverse engineer a Chitauri weapon. Being down on his luck he and his girlfriend Bonnie and Clyde it. Agent Sitwell is task with tracking them down rather arresting them offers the guy a job at Shield. It was a fun little unique movie, that explains how they were able to reverse engineer the alien technology in the MCU.
Just streamed it for free. It was 100% pure DEI. Woke is not over.
>>151586866He said BACKGROUND, anon.
>>151587154>Still why I love item 47. It features a guy who's smart enough to reverse engineer a Chitauri weapon. Being down on his luck he and his girlfriend Bonnie and Clyde it. Agent Sitwell is task with tracking them down rather arresting them offers the guy a job at Shield.I remember thinking that was a stealth pilot for Agents of SHIELD but then those guy weren0t in it
>>151586318>that scene where she talks about how she knows anger better than Bruce>because guys cat call her>when his life has gotten so bad he's put a gun in his mouth and Hulk spat out the bulletwhat fucked up drug were the writers on?
>>151587331Im sorry, everything is drawing me to Thorne's downy face, so it sucks at not distracting me.
>>151587717Victim complex is a hell of a drug anon.
>>151587717There's a level of irony the show didn't quite seem to catch. It's like before the actual joke is delivered they look at the camera stop and say "we're being serious and if you think this is funny you're the problem" But hey here's daredevil doing the walk of shame holding boots like high heels.
>>151587778Remember how the shills were trying to claim "Oh but Hulk disproves her just after this scene."
>>151586046secret invasion exists dummy
>>151586046You're fucking kiddingTHIS is the wirst oneFelt like a shitty spy kids episode with fucking Rick and morty humor Oh thats right a fuvking Rick and morty writer wrote this dogshitIrongeart wasn't spectacular, but it didnt ruin my faith in marvel like this movie didI want my $40 back for watching this fucking shit in 4DX
>>151587856Yeah i typed it wrong but thats how much I fuvking hate this movie This movie was so bad it ruined Jonathan Majors' career when it was just taking off lmaoGrim
>>151587873STOP PRESSING V
>>151586193>The actress is very uglyNah. She a cute.
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>>151587778I just want a show written like this, with a smug and unlikeable character who thinks she knows better and consistently achieves everything she wants, and then when she fights her first villain, she gets mercilessly beaten. The whole tone of the show should suddenly shift from the universe justifying her every nonsense claim, to the training wheels suddenly being torn off shocking her and the audience. I think it'd be funny to see how viewers expecting the next generic girl boss show would react.
>>151588032There seems to be a trend of pregnant girl bosses still going on fights even when they got a baby bump. Even though I'm against abortions and killing the unborn, I would like to see a villian beat the women or she gets into an accident and she miscarries the baby. Maybe get the dumb cunt to realize she was putting the kid endanger to get her adrenaline fix or, worse, using the baby as a sheild, betting on the baddies not actually fighting her cause she's pregnant.
>>151586950>in a cave with a box of scrapswell she would argue that tony could only build his shit in a cave because he went to school instead of smoking crack because of slavery 200 years ago
>Skipped The Acolyte>Skipped Velma>Skipped Iron Heart>Skipped She Hulk>Skipped Mandalorian S3>Skipped GoT>Learned how to use CAD and 3D Print.Just avoid shows till they're over.
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>>151586046It upset racist who think its the worst thing marvel made this year so im all for it
>>151586046>>151586094I didn't see this show, but this poster is of a villain, not a hero.
>>151586094Her suit in the background even looks like it's supposed to be the villain.
>>151586794It's crazy how 99% of women are not capable of writing fiction. I don't mean I'm the sense that it's a bad fictional story. I mean they can't just think up a story about something that's not them. For every Beatrix Potter coming up with Peter Rabbit & Friends or J.K. Rowling writing about a boy wizard you get hundreds of women who's idea of a story is just self inserting themselves as the main character and making the plot be things about their life. Its like in a movie where the girl becomes a famous author and her book is just her talking about her relationship with her ex boyfriend in purple prose and everyone's like: "WOW this is GROUNDBREAKING!" except in real life.
>>151586950While his heart wasn't working mind you. >>151587717Not to mention he's literally been living in while for almost a decade.>>151587778If you can't handle someone tut tutting at you I don't see how you're supposed to be a superhero. What if the villain just tells her she's being difficult?>>151588081It would be better to just have her purposely can't fight because she's pregnant and then when they throw a fit double down and accuse the companies of promoting dangerous activities to pregnant women.>>151588125I don't think Tony went to school he was a genius savant or something.>>151588166Same. I know what it's going to be, I have no interest. I'd rather watch something older that's going to be good or just do something else that's not watching TV if it's going to be like that.
>>151586046It was immediately easy to tell that you didn't even watch the movie you want to bitch about so bad. Iron Heart was on par in terms of writing with another cult classic, Iron Man 2, nowhere as popular as the original Iron Man though, it was still pretty good.
>>151587124Both are unwatchable pieces of garbage that suck at being superhero stories and feature entitled and insufferable protagonists.The only meaningful difference is that She-Hulk has worthwhile comics while Bendis was never good
>>151587951>Weird uneven FOREHEAD HAIR that reaches one inch above her eyebrows >Full row of fake teeth>Black irises>Pubes sideburns (check the right ear)>Retarded earring sense. Those will stab her in the neck and kill her lol Oh yeah a total beauty anon. If you were blind, and had no hands or something even even some blind retard would palm that face and be like wtf is this ugly fetus.
>>151586094Isn't it, though? Even in that image the suit looks evil and the tagline is ominous. The show starts with Riri stealing shit and helping with kidnapping and theft and ends with her literally making a deal with the devil.
>>151588166This. Imagine wasting time watching something you already know you're not gonna like.
>>151588459Oh god, i forgot it came out this year, feels so long ago.
>>151587717Women writers don't have a brain.
>>151588032There is an anime with an episode that plays out exactly like this for one of its main characters.What makes it juicier is that she's the successor for the franchise's most beloved character, yet she starts out with none of what makes him so beloved.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tSWBzBEU5wThe clip is cut down to the basic lines, but it gets the point across. The source is The Seven Deadly Sins: Four Knights of the Apocalypse.
>>151589913>stares at Hazbin/HelluvaYep YEP
>>151586193>cast attractive actressesThe attractiveness of new actresses after the 90s seems to have diminished. Dunno why.
>>151590024I'm guessing it has something to do with social media letting all the attractive people hoping to make a quick buck off their bodies do it from their bedroom and without getting pawed on a casting couch
>>151586046It's better than Immortals and Secret Invasion and like, everything Inhuman-related from the past decade.
>>151587717Mark Ruffalo is 5ft7 or thereabouts, therefore not a person and his emotions don't matter.
For all their constant virtue signaling, Marvel/Disney really has no idea how to write worthwhile female protagonists and stories revolving around them so all their female-led movies and shows are fucking shit as a result. It's especially annoying when you liked those characters in the comics, only to see how they were butcheredFor the record, I'm not saying that Ironheart is worth shit, fuck that awful character and fuck Bendis. It's just a general observation.
>>151590068Honestly I think pulling a Toph might be their best bet.Just write a man, then gender-swap the character at the 11th hour.
>>151586046Iron Man was cool. Ironheart is not. All of the more recent MCU attempts have completely lost the plot on how to give a character appeal and just think saying the words "iconic" and "inspirational" over again will make them exactly that.
>>151590095>Legend of Korra S4...perhaps it's best NOT to encourage Disney to write a Toph-type character.
>>151590102All the recent MCU output reeks of "how do you do, fellow kids?" enery when it isn't being written to appeal to the writers themselves instead of their audience.
>>151590103>Legend of Korra S4One could argue that part of the problem with Legend of Korra is that the writers wrote a woman for the main character.They probably wrote Toph as maturing into what they think a woman is too instead of continuing to write her as a man.
>>151590102>>151590116It's nice to know it's not sexism becuase their male-lead products are also garbage.
>>151590131To be fair, LoK is not exactly famous for having amazing male characters either. Look at what Mako became.
>>151588032>, with a smug and unlikeable character who thinks she knows better and consistently achieves everything she wants, and then when she fights her first villain, she gets mercilessly beaten.You just described Legend of Korra.
>>151586046>>151586135>>151586152These three are the 3 worst series I've ever seen. Not just among hero series, but series in general. They all suck major ass, each in a particular way. It's baffling how whoever the fuck made them seriously thought they were cooking something good, and had the balls to announce them as these super amazing things.
>>151590139Seriously. If it's not Kang being mid-diffed by fucking Ant-Man, it's the Leader spouting a shitload of predictions only to be proven wrong over and over again, or Falcon having his personality completely rewritten to be what the MCU thinks a "team leader" should be. Or Ikaris only failing at his plan to destroy the world because space azn pussy was just that good, despite being willing to kill his friends over letting a space giant pop out of the planet.Wait, that one shouldn't count because they somehow turned Eternals into the asian director's fantasy of getting BLEACHED. Which is still garbage, but bizarrely garbage in a way these movies usually aren't because horny asian women usually don't have that much creative control.
>>151586046The writers clearly thought they had the next big classic on the their hands
>>151590159Seriously. The problem is Korra learned less than nothing from getting her ass beat over and over again, until she eventually came to the conclusion that tearing down the barrier to the Spirit World was ontologically correct. Clearly the world needed to be balanced by unleashing Koh the Face-Stealer (who steals faces) on humanity.The writers only have themselves to blame for everyone assuming the postapocalyptic sequel setting is all Korra's fault.
>>151590172>Walter White or Tony Soprano>Antiheroes by the end of their storiesThis should have been the exact moment people figured out nobody in charge knew what the fuck they were talking about.
>>151590102People don't give Phase 1 movies a lot of credit, but they were still back when they tried to make these characters seem cool.Iron Man was still cool.Hulk actually felt dangerous and his fight with Abomination is one of my favorite MCU fights (sue me).Cap really felt like a badass super-soldier.Thor... I'll be honest, I never liked Thor all that much it felt to me like the weakest of these movies, but it had its moments.Modern MCU writers just don't know how to write cool characters anymore.
>>151586046This shit was great and you'd all love it if she was white. Her being a bitchy fuck up getting one of her very few real friends arrested was great. You're not meant to like her.
>>151590172>I gotta provide for and protect my familyVS>Man, fuck paying for shit!
>>151590197>Thor...As someone who wants to like Thor, I've always found his movies to be extremely weirdly place. 1 starts out with this bombastic Asgard setting, then strands Thor on boring as fuck Earth with awkward retards dogging the obligatory Jane Foster subplot AND tries to tie in SHIELD to set up the interconnected movies. As a result the final fight with Loki feels kind of rushed and underwhelming. 2 is a literal memory black hole. I remember exactly two thinks clearly: The big dude disappearing from Loki hitting him with his own black hole bomb, and Malekith somehow not instantly winning after absorbing the fucking Reality Stone and just spamming generic darkness powers.I'm a simple man. I like flashy, viking-coded superpowers clashing on a cosmic scale. The problem is I don't think the MCU really knows what to do with Thor, and desperately wanted him to be something more than just Ye Olde Hammer Man at a time when it was also extremely insecure about using the word "magic" or portraying no-bullshit deities for inexplicable reasons.And then 3 came along, Taika decided Thor was a funny dumbass who existed to be punk'd by the universe and the actress he was fucking at the time, and the MCU realised it was being retarded and just retconned the Asgardians back into no-bullshit gods.
>>151590232>You're not meant to like her.One, I'm pretty sure all those scenes where she's sobbing over her stepdad are in fact supposed to be sympathetic.Two, fuck no. Riri is like the meme version of Scrappy Doo the terminally online of the 00s complained about so much studios turned him into a literal soul-harvesting mecha pilot in a live action movie. You know, let me tell you about a white Riri in the MCU who didn't come from the ghetto and doesn't have the plot hem-hawing about his supposed money problems. He's called Justin Hammer. He is not, amazingly enough, my favourite character ever.
>>151590240>Riri: I can't get no funding for my inventions, gotta do crimes>Also Riri: Make practical lifesaving gadgets to raise money on Kickstarter or something? No! I don't want that! I'm not even going to get into the contrivance of Obadian having a son desperate to get away from his father's legacy...and selling weapon parts on the black fucking market instead of just getting a decent job at Lockheed-Martin or something. See? Even the white engineer character can't get away from the kind of shitty, drama-contriving writing Ironheart uses to justify characters bickering with each other over what should be easy to solve problems in a setting with replicable super science.
>>151590167>Ikaris only failing at his plan to destroy the world because space azn pussy was just that goodHold up.
>>151590307...fuck.Both their plans involve a small girl with an ambiguous and uncomfortable romantic context to their relationship too. And the MCU Uni-Mind is the second closest the MCU has ever gotten to Instrumentality (the first closest is a tie between Ego's plan and Dormammu)
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>>151590232>You're not meant to like herWhat a dumb thing to say.No, you are meant to like the main character. What you are not meant to do is think they are a good person. Walter White is a terrible person but the fans liked his bad antics enough that they kept watching. Riri is a terrible person who's actions make watching the show a chore.
>>151590242I think I'm gonna piss a lot of people off with this opinion. Both Marvel and DC fags.Snyder should've helmed Thor movies. He at least has a taste for the kind of pathos Thor requires. He just needs somebody to tardwrangle him so it doesn't become an exercise in excessive profanity and violence, but otherwise I think he could've done a decent job, much better than he did with DC heroes.
>>151590380This. This is one thing people don't get. Yes you don't need to agree with everything the character does or says, but the main character(s) still need to be likeable enough in their own way. Hating the main cast is a guarantee that most of the audience will have a bad time watching/reading it, it just becomes a pain in the ass.
>>151590413There are examples where you can get away with the protagonist being so horrible, you want them to just eat shit already. DC did that recently with Penguin.But MCU writers are no qualified enough to pull that off successfully, so even if "she's supposed to be a villain" was intentional, Ironheart is lacking.
>>151590396>Snyder should've helmed Thor movies. He at least has a taste for the kind of pathos Thor requires. He just needs somebody to tardwrangle him so it doesn't become an exercise in excessive profanity and violence, but otherwise I think he could've done a decent job, much better than he did with DC heroes.I...I can actually see it. Let me reply to your hot take with a cold one: Snyder can make a competent movie, he just needs someone to tardwrangle him because he is a completely shameless ideas guy who can and has built his entire directing style around "thing cool, throw thing in movie, don't explain". I genuinely think this is why MoS was relatively less unhinged than his other movies despite STOP MY INVINCIBLE SON, it had Nolan attached as a producer.Thor is not that complex a character, and I can absolutely believe Snyder's slowmo fetish would go well with his lightning. Just like I can believe Snyder would ACTUALLY FUCKING DO SOMETHING WITH LADY SIF because of his amazon fetish.
>>151590538True, but the Penguin is at least interesting, like, you hate the dude and want him to die, but he has personality, he plays his role in the story well, it makes you curious to see how things will go.In Iron Heart's case though, she ends up being just an annoying, entitled douche, and the rest of the story and cast is not nearly enough to get you invested in the series. You hate her, her motivation, her sidekicks, her enemies, and the whole damn plot.
