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I think Yugi is more likely to win but I kind of want him to lose just because the reaction here would be really funny
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TOTAL YUJEET MELTDOWN SOON
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The next time is Japanese Spiderman vs Adam West Batman
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>>151587849
To be fair, Goku vs Superman was a more "serious" episode
Frieza vs Megatron was honestly kind of embarrassing (it's an okay episode but man they handled Megatron like shit) and came across as a pre emptive DBZ score booster before they fed Goku to Superman again. I don't think they minded the silly meme Frieza voice there
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>>151587864
Can't help but feel they'll pick a controversial matchup to start next year off with. My bet is a Dragon Ball character
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>>151587879
It was 100% a score booster because they ignored the entire reason people wanted the fight which was Megatron also having bullshit gold and black forms.
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>>151587879
Not to go full tinfoil but I still do think it's possible they didn't ask him because he wouldn't like the outcome. Tonal clashes also didn't stop them getting abridged Alucard and referencing the meme lines from said abridged series either.
Interested to hear how Tom Schalk does as Yugi at least. Guy has a pretty solid range of impressions
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rwby characters are my bitches
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>>151587891
Future Gohan vs the evil marks?
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>>151587891
Cell vs Metal Sonic. (I would say Cell vs Garou but OPM is getting boatloads of shit at the moment and that sort of controversy isn't the type that Death Battle usually goes for)
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>>151587928
He'll likely do alright. His DIO and Megatron were really good in particular. I'm not really sold on the woman voicing Ash but I guess they wanted to get his voice close to the OG series.
I guess my own tinfoil hat is that while a lot of things would seem to indicate an Ash win (Yugi being drawn as the heel of the fight, the OG Pokemon singer doing the track) we might see an Ash death so Ben gets to hear another ryona death scream from his VA kek
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>>151587928
If Ash wins, this'll be the first time a Tom Schalk-voiced character loses on this show.
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>>151587891
They might use a filler MU like Traveller V Aang or the bonus Light vs Columbo to fill the January slot cause apparently it's a dogshit month for ad revenue
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>>151587954
Either that one or Goku vs Sonic. I don't know why but it really feels like that one is just around the corner
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>>151587861
I like Yugi more, think Yugi will win, and think Ash has no actual chance of winning, and part of me wants Yugi to lose because it would be hilarious. It'd be Krasura tier for me at least.
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>>151587964
>Ash crossdresses.
>Is so effeminate that Ben uses him to satisfy his "women getting murdered" fetish.
Grimmest of the grim.
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>>151587964
He played Megatron. Ash's VA is also undefeated but has only done two other episodes (Tracer and Jinx)
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>>151587964
Megatron
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>>151587980
Meant to reply to >>151587959
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>”Next time, on Death Battle…”
>INHERITORS OF A DYING BLOODLINE
>GALACTIC HEROES
>PATERNAL REDEEMERS
>LUKE SKYWALKER VS INVINCIBLE
>COMING 1/18
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>>151587845
Who’s a good opponent for Mashu?
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>>151587959
The OG vocalist singing while Ash dies is a funny thought though
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>>151588000
>heel exposed
>yet no toes
I CAN'T JERK OFF TO THIS
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>>151587891
Not really controversial but I think Gru vs Megamind is the most likely to be next year's premiere. Light vs Columbo is a bonus episode, so it wouldn't really count. Geats vs Nero will be a while coming if previous voted-for episodes are any indication. Aang vs Traveller is an MU that nobody likes except for one crew member, it'll likely be early or mid-season filler. Otherwise they might start off with an unconfirmed matchup.
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>>151587999
Trips of TERROR!
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>>151587891
Have they done Dragon Ball vs Square Enix yet? I could see something like Cell vs Lasvoss or Gohan vs a FF Protag.
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>>151588010
i think they will use the january slump as the chance to do the "bonus episode" and save the actual big bill fights for the rest of the year
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>>151588000
Random Gachaslut #139
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>>151587934
Probably the only version of Gohan vs Mark I'm willing to accept, Future Gohan trying to singlehandedly fight off an army of Invincibles is just a concept way too cool to not get an animation, regardless of the outcome (which will probably be Gohan getting sealclubbed, funnily enough)
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>>151588029
Z Fighters/Team Universe 7 vs Sora and Friends or 7 Guardians of Light would be fucking hilarious
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>>151588000
wanked captain america
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>>151587861
It be fun to watch but I don't want him to win because I hate "Scaling" victories.

I hope its at least through interesting interactions of abilities if he loses.
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You already went to 1-A Man
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charizard....
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greninja...
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>>151588003
>Paige is still a Pokemon fan on top of doing the original theme song
>Did not get their VA friend who is arguably the biggest Yugioh fan on the internet to voice Yugi
Oh no no no Yugibros... the fix is in...
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>>151588067
Is there a single time a "fix" has been thoroughly predicted outside of Kratosura? Every other bout of paranoia in an episodes leadup has ended up looking incredibly stupid in hindsight.
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>>151588056
>I hope its at least through interesting interactions of abilities if he loses.
I think it's possible. They've already said spells aren't being treated as NLF. So something like Raigeki could be countered or charge up Pikachu. Ash can bullshit his way out of a lot of things so he'll probably do the same with a lot of spells and traps. Ultimately I think there will be some abilities he can't get past but it's not going to be because of a NLF
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Overall Yugi SHOULD win but its quite likely Ash wins due to death battle stupidity factor
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>>151588047
>Mickey Mouse goes 2-0 while Goku goes 0-4
kino
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>>151588077
No. People try to find some pattern or bias but it's never true.
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>>151588065
FUARKING HERO OF HEROES, KING OF KINGS! BEASTODILE! Oh, and then Krookodile's lackeys, I guess.
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How many Death Battle episodes are confirmed to have been genuinely rigged? Outside of just a dumb/inaccurate verdict, I mean.
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It is very funny we can figure out the stats for a theoretical Jaden vs Ben based on how they buy the Yubel shit. If they claim it's 12x universal they're gonna ignore the 26D shit but if they claim it's 12D they're gonna use it
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>>151588104
omniman bardock and yangtifa
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>>151588104
Tifa vs Yang
Raiden vs Raid Shadow Legends
Asura vs Kratos
Light vs Columbo isn't even out yet but I mean, c'mon.
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>>151588104
Zero, according to Reddit. Outside of there, there’s two battles (Yang vs Tifa, and Raiden vs Excalibur) that were explicitly made as paid advertisements for the winner’s series.
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>this guy who is making the episode likes X so obviously X will win!
>this guy who hates Y isn't associated so obviously Y will win!
>they got someone who has done official work for X so obviously X wins!
And so on and so on...
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>>151588077
I wouldn't say "fixing" but I mean a lot of DBs do really quickly establish the winner as the "main character" or it being realized as a winner ft. loser episode post hoc.
The only episode I can think of that wasn't like this recently was Dante vs Clive
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>>151588124
they did not give a certain output for black frieza or broly so its clear they do not care about high ends if they think that the fight is already decided.

so yes if they just say its 12 universal here, they wont use 26D alien x.
but if they do give yugi 12D here, they are giving alien x 26D
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>>151588104
Only Renamon vs Lucario as far as I know.
Maybe you could argue for the Boys BR.
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>>151588077
Dio VS Alucard (matchup still debateable, but Swan is a huge Jojos guy and Dio got a lot of wank + benefit of the doubt)
Sasuke VS Hiei (the original OmniDock, Ben hates Sasuke so much he upgraded YYH to planetary+ on a feat that the community had calc'd far lower)
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>>151588137
I wish they'd stop doing this shit I hate knowing the winner 20 seconds into the animation.
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A bit early but IDGAF.
https://strawpoll.com/QrgewG35Xyp
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>>151588149
Name a single thing not explained in dio vs alucard
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>>151588134
I know Tifa vs Yang was incorrect but wasn't Raiden vs Excalibur an example of them setting up Raiden against a guy who would obviously stomp him?
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>>151588104
Strunton made a fan DB in which Hiei beat Sasuke so that was probably rigged.
Yang vs Tifa was definitely rigged.
Kratos vs Asura had so much damage control attached to it with the whole "We'll do a rematch if a Sequel comes out!", alt ending, pre-tweet it really does make one wonder if even they thought the scaling was kinda wonky.
Guts vs Nightmare was probably fixed just so they could cream themselves over how cool Guts was. Which ended up being funny in hindsight because I'm pretty sure losing to Nightmare would have been less embarassing than the other Guts DB episode
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Talk about your never ever matches.
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>>151588176
William Afton vs Herbert West is kino and I will die on that hill.
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>>151588168
I dont know how people take this shit seriously after Kratos Asura.
Kratos, a character who regularly struggles to fight giants, who's never been off the planet, was suddenly leaping from asteroid to asteroid and stealing feats from Asura.
Disingenuous scaling is one thing but this felt like a hit piece towards Asura.
And I've never even played Asura's Wrath.
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>>151588176
Sadly, i dont see em having the kino to make a simple "natural" samurai vs samurai duel with mitsurugi vs haohmaru.
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>>151588129
>>151588134
>Raiden vs Excalibur
But Excalibur does win. It's a pubstomp, but not a rig.
>Yang vs Tifa
Different research standarts (the pillar shit is just one of the usual fuckups), so shit like Supernova level FF7 weren't accepted and gear was more limited to standart stuff.
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>>151588104
Ben admitted that he would have cancelled Starscream vs Rainbow horse if the former won https://deathbattle.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:CrossoverKing96/Road_to_100_Archive:Starscream_vs_Rainbow
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>>151588168
>Kratos vs Asura had so much damage control attached to it with the whole "We'll do a rematch if a Sequel comes out!", alt ending, pre-tweet it really does make one wonder if even they thought the scaling was kinda wonky.
I wonder what pushed them to do a Kratos win in the first place. Were they just so scared of the GOW powerscaler mob that they'd rather lie to everyone and tell them to disbelieve their senses, or do they genuinely believe in KINGtos?
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"Actually, we didn't give Alucard his final form that Dio has no out for but instead the weaker power in which he expends all his soul into a bunch of minions Dio can pummel instantly, but also Dio could uhhh use his barely utilized mind control powers and uh totally tell Alucard who has more mind control experience to turn his power off haha"
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Anyone kept track of which of the two combatants ended up gettting hit with the simon glasses curse?
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>>151588162
Them saying Dio could just "hypnotize" Alucard out of Schrodinger despite the fact that he could just... choose not to exist, leaving nothing TO hypnotize and stall Dio indefinitely.
They also justified not using Schrodinger by saying "he doesn't really use it" which is really funny given every character since has basically had any non-standard power or item
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>>151588197
I feel like having a someone clubbed like a baby seal by someone they have no business fighting is close to a rig. Less poison in the other guy's protein drink and more so putting prime Mike Tyson in the rookie circuit.
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Who will fight Juggernaut or Professor X to complete the "X-Men character's helmet is knocked off and bounces on the ground for a bit in slow motion" trilogy after Shredder vs Silver Samurai and Magneto vs Tetsuo?
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>>151588153
It's not even about the animation anymore. They basically reveal it as soon as the analysis. One character will have a lavish, emotional, deep analysis that really celebrates the character and their accomplishments and the other will just sort of end on a wet fart. I was laughing when they were talking about Ultima and Boomstick just started speedtalking to get shit over with because it was so obvious Hulk was going to win after they were taking a lot of time to gas up Banner.
Dante vs Clive managed to avoid this - mostly, but there I guess you had the fact that Dante was the aggressor and it became super obvious Dante was going to die after their space fight.
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>>151588197
By their own logic, Yang should have lost since Tifa's limit breaks are separate from her base form stats.

>>151588212
Dio was stated to be able to move far faster than alucard, so he can use the hypnosis he used on EVIL PEOPLE used on jack the ripper in part 1, not the fleshbuds.

They justified not giving him cat because he cannot use his normal vampire powers with it.
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>Yang vs Tifa
By feats Yang was more impressive at the time. Tifa isn't all strong if you don't accept Summon/Supernova scaling (and at the time they didn't)
Tifa could make up the difference with Materia but 'what counts as standart equipment for RPG characters' is it's own seperate debate.
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>>151588224
i mean, if you are just going to ignore lore about why monsters are impressive then why are you playing a jrpg.

she scales AT LEAST to the giant serpent Sephiroth impaled at the start of the game by the end.

Which is around city level by the map scale.
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>>151588221
>was going to die after their space fight.
Dante vs Clive became super lame as soon as Dante transformed.
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>>151588212
I didn't like the Schrodinger explanation when Dio was using his Stand and Vampire powers.
I hate part 3 of Jojo for downplaying Hamon and Vampires but it is something they did purposefully. It feels just as out of character to me for Dio to be a full power vampire and a full power stand user at the same time, fine if you want to do it but if you wank in that direction you should wank in the other. Even that Heaven Dio shit neglects his vampire powers still.
I've never watched Hellsing btw is it good.


>>151588221
I thought Yugi's preview was significantly better than Ash's where they basically just said "there's a lot of episodes, pikachu matched lighting"

Thing is I think the preview left out a fuckton for Yugi as well.
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>>151588077
i dont think they need to "fix" the matchup in order to have ash win but the idea that yugi lost because they rigged it seems to make the yugifags seethe more than if he'd just lost fair and square
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>>151588251
nero is cute

>>151588253
Dio can use his vampire powers in part 3, he just considered his stand ot be superior.

He uses the beam eyes in the audio drama and Jotaro just dodges it before Dio goes for the steam roller.
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>>151587845
what of it?
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>>151588251
Nero a cute
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>>151588263
Yeah I get the world is superior but there is quite literally times where he's searching for a ranged weapon to deal with Jotaro from safety.

To the point where he picks up dinner knives and a stop sign.

Both of those are inferior to laser eyes.
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Reminder that 5000 years experience Atem is a low end.

He fought and outskilled Noa Kaiba, who had all the knowledge of mankind in him.
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>>151588253
The story used to be that better preview = worse performance in the episode. I can't remember where it started exactly but Lex got scaled to universal and MFTL in his preview while Doom got "broke out of an adamantium coffin" and at the time everyone still thought that meant Lex would win
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>>151588272
The real answer is unironically Araki forgot and the Jotaro vs Dio fight sucks ass because it's just Dio going "hmmm well I could kill him now but I think I'll be careful..." and then eating shit for an hour.
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>>151588253
>thought Yugi's preview was significantly better than Ash's where they basically just said "there's a lot of episodes, pikachu matched lighting"
That's just a preview though.
Dante's preview had fuckall compared to Clive's but by the end of it they were about even in quality.
Simon's preview also had nothing compared to Kyle's but obviously we know how that went in the full episode
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>>151588272
He grabbed the knives from a nearby store. The stinger eyes are eye fluid and not unlimited.

>>151588281
Dio is a cocky guy and could have won if he just focused on winning instead of worrying about jotaro moving in stopped time.
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Erm, Master Chief vs Doomguy had Doomguy as the clear aggressor, and was basically a 4 minute humiliation ritual for the original.
Ruby vs Maka also had Maka as the aggressor hunting Ruby's soul for basically no real reason
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>>151588223
>Yang should have lost since Tifa's limit breaks are separate from her base form stats.
Eh, Limit Breaks are usually stronger, but the whole 'she can suplex a WEAPON' kinda ignores that they're much smaller in battle than in-cutscenes.
>>151588230
>map scale
By map scale Cloud is a kaiju
Using the overworld to scale the Midgard Zolom is really stupid since we see it in a cutscene and it's big, but not a godzilla kaiju in size.
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>>151588224
Concrete pillars were a meme for ages by how they wanked it using the WRONG math since they calced it breaking vertically instead of horizontally
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>>151588297
tbf those were pretty preordained
maybe the pattern is "obvious winner aggressor obviously wins"
so Yugi will be the aggressor this match

of course caring about patterns is fucking stupid
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>>151588281
That's why OVA was better when it came to the finally fight.
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>>151588195
It was a hit piece, you don’t even need to play the game to see it just watch the intro mission.
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>>151588297
Yeah I mean it's not a hard rule or anything but you do have to admit that the heel or aggressor eats shit in like 9/10 fights nowadays
Maka wasn't even really a heel anyway, the only true example is Slayer being a cunt the entire fight
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>>151588300
??? what the fuck do you mean.
They said sephiroth is a planet buster and implied tifa can only hurt him with the limit breaks.

Yang being able to grow stronger than Tifa with the semblance is relying on her being able to tank base form attacks and adapting to them
If the limit breaks are instantly stronger than base form, then Yang just dies.
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>>151588201
They didn’t think Asura’s Wrath had enough of a fanbase for it to make any impact, Ben’s tweet was the most damning shit I’ve ever seen.
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>>151588308
That's also silly since Giorno, Mahito and Miles were "aggressors/heels" and their fights were also stupidly and obviously lopsided. Also Krasura as soon as it was clear they were using Loretos.
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What's your reaction if they do a pity tweet an hour before the episode implying a Yugi loss?
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MC vs Doomguy was such a fucking funny humiliation ritual, they had his POV literally kneeling against Doomguy it's like I know it's supposed to sate people butthurt about the original 2011 episode but like have some restraint
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>>151588162
- claiming Dio could regenerate from Alucard's blood (he could not, he'd die if he tried grafting his limbs back on from that).
- their assumption Dio's mind control is better than Al's (it's really not)
- flesh buds would be useless on Alucard but people still bring them up like they'd do anything
- dubious at best that Alucard will 100% die for good permanently if he's out of spare souls
- thinking Dio's defenses are infallible and Al would never even get good one shot in when Dio is super arrogant
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>>151588326
It is very funny that the original trailer had Asura almost be like this vengeful spectre coming to punish Kratos's sins and then they cut that out and DevilArtemis had to flat out tell the writers no on their blatant OOC shit to make Kratos look like the good guy
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>>151588319
>They said sephiroth is a planet buster
Unless you buy Supernova being legit, then Sephiroth is a planet buster the way Tarkin is. You don't need to be a planet buster to beat him in a direct fight.
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>>151588322
Thing is, it doesn't.
I'm not a fan of God of War (i played 1-3 and had my fill)
I've never even heard of asura's wrath.

But with extremely fucking rusy knowledge of GoW and just B-roll footage of Asura's wrath played in the episode I felt like they lied to me.
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>>151588342
>YOU ARE A MONSTER NO LONGER... uh, you were a monster because you got really angry at the people who killed your wife and kidnapped your daughter, just so you know
What did KINGtos mean by this
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>>151588336
1 - why? Is it stated to be non blood?

2 - They never said flesh buds would work on alucard, they show his part 1 hypnosis move that he used on jack the ripper in the analysis. The one that works on evil people

3 - yeah, but then that just goes into the stalemate result

4 - Dio having no weakpoints physically makes sense. Alucard cannot see TW nor do anything about the time stop.
And if Dio is 1000x FTL then nothing alucard could have done would catch him by surprise, specially since alucard is no one to Dio and would have no reason to want to humilliate or dominate over just killing him.
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>>151588347
They said, again, that sephiroth was a planet buster in the tifa vs yang analysis.

you thinking supernova isnt "legit" is irrelevant.
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>>151588362
>implying STACYang isn't a planet buster
she's outerversal with Cross Tag Battle scaling, wdym
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I wonder if they will use some of the Japanese music for Pokemon. Type Wild is my favorite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-l1ROg6WOI&list=RDj-l1ROg6WOI&start_radio=1
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>>151588373
the whole fight is about 4kids nostalgia.
they will use the gotta catch em all leitmotif and you are gonna like it
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>>151588333
If Yugi loses, I'll just disagree with the series and continue to think its a joke for entertainment only. (i already think this)

>>151588376
its a shame because the JP yugioh soundtrack is vastly superior to anything in pokemon and people barely know about it.
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>>151588401
thankfully BA SA KA SO RU is meme enough we might get fang of critias when Yugi starts making a comeback.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_CPpG6OttA
Gotta give it to the english dub for the one and only time it surpassed the japanese version.
The way the used the 4kids main theme for when atem returns is just the most peak thing ever.
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>>151588362
And he is, if you let him have a week to summon a meteor. Beating Sephiroth doesn't require you to be stronger than Meteor (and that's kinda the whole plot of the last disc)
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>>151588422
oh fuck off we have been over the fucking meteor thing over and over

IN THE LORE OF FF7, Meteor is the strongest dark materia and the only thing strong enough to destroy the lifestream guarding the planet.
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>>151588358
1. That's hardly ordinary blood. vampirism in Hellsing is demonic in origin. Those are his familiars. trying to absorb that looks like a good way to get torn apart.
2. Al is the far older and more experienced vampire by several centuries.
3. If Al didn't go to level 0 then Dio would have to do it the hard way and kill this guy 1 soul at a time and then wait for him to regenerate. Dio almost died a couple times before his final defeat, making some error or another in high stakes fights is what he does. His durability isn't great. And the 1000x number is generally accepted to be a massive exaggeration.
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>>151588432
1- if by the logic of the episode Dio is far more durable than alucard, why would the blood be able to tear him apart?

2 - and thousand times slower.

3 - He almost died to a stand that is stated and shown to be just as fast and just has powerful as he was.
again, if you do not agree with 1000x FTL Dio, it does not matter.
But the logic and stats used in the episode, Dio being 1000x FTL leads to their conclusion.
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>>151588029
>FF Seal clubbing another verse AGAIN
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>>151588414
I kinda like the 4kids Kaiba theme.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNrNwrVn0xQ
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>>151588446
That is a good theme. It sounds mechanical, analytical, high tech, and cool overall.

With the couple orchestral pieces hinting towards the divinity of obelisk and blue eyes.
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>>151588443
>>151588029
Trunks vs Chrono counts?
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>>151588104
Nobody's brought up Deadpool vs The Mask yet?
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>>151588442
>More durable
Jojo Vamps aren't more durable they're regen merchants same with Hellsing vamps. Both have slightly above human level durability but just have absurd pain tolerance/endurance
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>>151588466
I count it
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>>151588104
I know they've corrected it with a sequel but the first Cloud vs Link was so hilariously wrong and you could tell the reason was because they were new/inexperienced with 3D Assets and didn't want to make shit for Cloud.

So then we had a cross-game composite link fighting a cloud who didn't feel like using materia.
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Some guy brought up Bahamut vs Deathwing a couple of weeks ago and it makes me wonder
Is there a single version of Bahamut that Deathwing beats or doesn't immediately get shitstomped by? I was always under the impression the vast majority of Bahamuts are significantly above Deathwing to the point that you could just pick and choose which flavor of Bahamut you want to stomp Deathwing
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>>151588471
you need to stop bringing outside arguments if you are going to argue the logic of the episode.

If you do not think dio is 1000x and town/city level, that is just unrelated to the conclusion/analysis.

Dio is stated to be stronger than Stone Free's meteor feat and gave him the cloud splitting feat from the anime version of part 1, which IS town level.
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>>151588467
Oh yeah, that's right. That one was literally rigged to shit on deadpool
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>>151587999
Grandmaster Luke vs Professor X mogs.
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>>151588467
>>151588492
its actually funny how deadpool actually does beat the mask in vsbw.
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>>151588492
That episode's premise falls apart because the joke was "Deadpool is so annoying and we need to get rid of him" but the episode itself was annoying and unfunny.
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>>151588499
>>151587999
i prefer legends luke vs kirby
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>>151588482
The fairly featless one from the Advent children film
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Ash vs Yugi would be the absolute worst episode to end with a tie.
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Deathbattle is the only cartoon that I can regularly look forward to seeing the episodes of when it comes around. That isn't smiling friends.
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>>151588223
What’s REALLY fucking ridiculous is that Dante and Clive, both FTL universe-destroyers according to Death Battle, are still more than 100x slower than swanked base DIO.
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>>151588357
>If you kill your enemies, they win.
-Justin Trudtos
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>>151588526
there are arguments for mftl+ clive and immeasurable speed dante, they just do not do their research.
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>>151588513
I agree, but I also think this show is trying to hard to be wholesome these days.
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>>151588504
that sounds like shit, a Death Battle Fanon wiki tier matchup
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>>151588519
Sorry to hear that.
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>>151588580
Why's that? They are both good shows
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>>151588376
That's so retarded considering that Ash's Japanese voice actress is a singer.
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>>151588596
also bakura
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>>151588482
Decided to look it up and for the mainline games it's basically just
>Final Fantasy 6 Bahamut? (Nothing I found has anything about busting planets, and the calcs either use FF7 Typhon or are lower than planet level)
>Final Fantasy 10 Bahamut (Just about nobody scales to Sin's Small Planet Giga Cannon feat or whatever)
So I guess there's a grand total of 2 and everything else just casually eats him alive
Actually it is pretty funny that FF10 Bahamut is one of the few ones that can't beat him without chainscaling to other series given that he's one of the first designs to really start deviating from standard dragon
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>>151588216
Xavier fights Niles 'the Chief' Caulder.
Juggernaut is for Doomsday or the Shaggy Man/General.
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>>151588196
Kill yourself listtroon.
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>>151588526
They brought up that you could use Mundus and Ultima's universe creation stuff for speed in a blackbox
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>>151588466
They'd probably do Trunk vs the Luminary instead.
DB has also said they like Magus vs Piccolo.
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Reminder Sonic RAPES and GAPES Goku and his entire verse
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>>151588602
I can’t believe they left out SoP Bahamut
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>>151588641
luminary has any cool time travel moments?

Anywho fuck i forgot to replace one matchup with warrior of light vs eldrick
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>>151588602
>>151588482
Most Bahamut are kinda featless. And in many cases are weapons for other characters (ie. Yuna, Rydia) even when they have dialogue.
In terms of mainline Bahamuts, only 15's is a character of his own right (14's is iconic, but is mostly a mindless beast if I remember).
>>151588658
I assume it's mainline only (and SoP Bahamut is just the Bahamut from 1 and 15)
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>>151588682
Yeah, Act 3 of the game is him breaking a time orb to send himself back in time to undo the Demon King pulling a Kefka.
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>>151588706
Mmm alright then. But yeah, its a toriyama honor fight, so trunks fighting either crono or luminary works.

tho i guess crono is more nostalgia core.
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>>151588702
>only 15's is a character of his own right
16 is one too
You can probably reasonably scale Bahamut to other summons/Espers and their goofy animations in most games as he is often the king of them or strongest one
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What's Yugi's best way of countering Aura and Synchronization?
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>>151588741
de fusion and fate bending

the last time someone that knew the future dueled a millenium item user, it didnt end up well for em.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOJr1dTPSis
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>>151588736
Eh, yeah, but at point you'd be more making connections to Dion, since he's the guy piloting him.
Same with Caius and his Bahamut form.
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>>151588710
Crono vs Trunks is legacy
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>>151588357
Jeetsura was gonna blow up the entire planet because he was butthurt that KINGtos made him look like a weakling.
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>>151588269
Sam vs Satsuki when
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identity death or no identity death

aka having team galactic cut cynthia's hair and dye it light blue or just showing her off as is in the galactic suit.
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>>151588467
>>151588492
If we’re counting that, we might as well count Spongebob vs SF Aquaman, too. Classic case of Death Battle cashing in on a meme a decade too late, in this case the “Aquaman sux lol” meme. And the glazing of Spongebob’s toon force was retarded, too. They already did Saitama vs Popeye, so they’ve already dealt with a toonforce fighter before Spongebob, and they didn’t freak out NEARLY as much for Popeye’s feats as they did for Spongebob’s. You’d think they’d never seen toon force before with how they react to shit like Spongebob unraveling the universe, shen years ago, they covered Popeye doing shit like surviving the universe being turned off or beijg fast enough to exist in two places at once to shadowbox himself.
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>>151588799
Jetstream Sam?
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>>151588890
ye
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>>151588906
Armstrong is a more interesting MGRR rep imo.
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>>151588503
who should fight The Mask then?
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>>151588164
justice for tifa?
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>>151588935
makoto niijima
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>>151588912
not the rival character to the mc
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Next season better be entertaining
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>>151589012
Hopefully we get Daffy vs Donald
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>>151589216
He said entertaining not mind numbingly boring
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>>151589249
But I posted an entertaining fight? You might have forgot your glasses again, scout.
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>>151589216
We've had enough toon fights with "classic" toons, I'd rather we get something more distinguished and modern like how we did with Scooby vs Courage. Maybe Homer vs Peter?
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>>151587845
>Yugi canonically died a childless virgin
>Ash married a cute girl and became a father
Yep, Ash WON.
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>>151589330
Show it happening in the anime then
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>>151589320
This is canon to GOW by Warrior-Z standards.
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Beedrillbros...
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>>151587845
My hero remains standing despite being wronged
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>>151589320
KINGLY!
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>>151589320
a single one of those gassy braps would eclipse the Asuraverse
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>>151588216
>>151588615
Wheelchair fight, let's get it
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>>151589480
Winner fights Tonka Saw.
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>>151588836
i'm a fan of the former, changing hairstyle to show that the character completely lost her old personality is good shit
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>>151589216
would stuff like donald's superhero identity factor in? it has tons of stories from what i heard
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>>151588744
Anything else?
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>>151589339
It's canon, yugicuck. Ash became a Chad
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>>151589525
>Misty peaked at 10
It do be like that sometimes
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>>151589525
>posts fanart
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>>151589525
...in his dream, which was shattered by mind crush.
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>>151588104
How do you even define rigged?
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>>151588281
To be fair, he got PTSD from Jonathan and Jonathan didn't have a stand. Besides DIO was weaker (TW aside). I think it was in character considering the boat scene where Dio finally accepted Jonathan
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>>151588276
How does this help them in a duel?
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>>151589534
Doc Green...
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>>151589249
>mind numbingly boring
if you're retarded and have bad tastes then yeah Daffy Donald is boring
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>>151588442
>3 - He almost died to a stand that is stated and shown to be just as fast and just has powerful as he was.
And when he was at his peak he almost died to a human who clearly is a lot slower than Alucard
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>want Yugi to win
>this is death battle so Ash might win do to there vs wiki tier logic
What are good of examples of other fights like this?
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>>151589610
Omnidock, Kyle vs Simon, Hulk vs Godzilla.
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>>151589466
Madoka's footrest
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>>151589610
>>151589642
Blade vs Buffy but no one is ready to talk about that.
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>Ash vs Yugi
That's nice but can Ash beat him?
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>>151589669
If Tobias existed today, he'd probably be seen as the Jiren of Pokemon
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>>151589569
He wins the duel cuz he's the KANG of games and has all the strats
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Will Yugi and Atem meet movie 3 Entei? Will they bring up the fact they have the same voice?
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>>151589652
The only thing you can say about Blade vs Buffy is that from a sane perspective Blade is arguably faster. Buffy being much stronger and tougher and having better trump cards checks out.
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>>151589669
He presumably lost to Cynthia seeing as shes still the champion during the final league. Would have been a cool twist to replace her with Tobias in that final arc but Ash scales hier than Cynthia who beat Tobias so he could probably beat Tobias by the end of the series.
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>>151589736
>Woman who had to be saved by magic from a gunshot can survive a demon bullet that eats you from the inside out
>Getting the dimension cut that only Willow was able to do with the scythe because she's a magic witch woman.
>"Buffy can't be drained by a bite, here's a clip of her surviving Spike draining her but we'll cut it off after two seconds so you don't see her passed out on the floor."
They rigged it hard down to cutting cited footage early so it doesn't debunk their lame arguments.
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>>151588836
kill yourself
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>>151589642
>>151589652
>besides Omnidock all the winners of these are stronger then their opponents according to vsbw
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>>151589749
The breathing gun doesn't explode you or something like that, it's just an ordinary bullet. Daimon Hellstrom got shot in the leg by it and was fine. Buffy would die if she got shot in a vital but would be okay if it just hit her in a non-lethal spot as depicted in the fight. The bullets are also slow enough that fucking Madcap could outrun them.
The Scythe being able to cut space isn't a Willow thing, it's a Scythe thing. The Buffy encyclopedia confirms that and Rack later does it having no experience with the Scythe.
The argument wasn't that Buffy couldn't be drained, it was specifically that her magical abilities couldn't be drained. Angel didn't absorb her Slayer powers when he bit her, she was in danger because it was just ordinary blood loss. At that point it becomes a useless attack because biting Buffy is infinitely less effective than stabbing her.
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>>151589701
Closer to 29 hours actually.
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>>151587845
>Ash: Sing that song that I like before I solo your verse
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>>151589749
Buffy had to kill Blade because of what happened on that train. Blade even almost stabs Buffy in the neck in the bathroom.
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>>151589771
>It's just an ordinary bullet
Which eats you from the inside, but if it was normal bullet it would've been enough.

>Madcap
He's a living cartoon.

>Isn't a Willow thing
It's a magic-user thing. You can shut me up by citing any time Buffy did it herself.

>It wasn't' that Buffy couldn't be drained
It was that she endured it, and they cut the clip short to make it seem like she wasn't nearly killed from the bite.

>Biting Buffy is infinitely less effective than stabbing her
She drops from a single bite, not a single slice. it's more effective as shown by her going down when Angel bit her. Blade biting her would have one-shot her like Angel's bite. The rigging part comes from Death Battle deliberately cutting the clip before viewers could watch Buffy fall like a sack of potatoes.
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>>151589952
If real life shit influences outcomes, then Tetsuo should have won over Magneto.
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>>151589771
>that fucking Madcap could outrun them
He's a cartoon.
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>>151589693
>Jiren
Who?
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>>151589970
Jiren is someone who lost, unlike Tobias.
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so what stats do you think the G1 blog will give them
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>>151589959
>Which eats you from the inside
This evidently takes a long time. Daimon Hellstrom got shot by it and then spent an entire issue fighting and was later seen lying okay in bed and just removed the bullet from his body with no ill effect. Worst case scenario for Buffy she has to get it removed after the fight but obviously Buffy wouldn't die if you shot her in the leg.
>He's a living cartoon
Who runs at ordinary human speed
>It's a magic user thing
This has never been stated. It has been stated the Scythe is completely attuned to Buffy and she knows how to use it perfectly if you're going that route. She uses it even after Willow reforges it.
>She drops from a single bite
It took Angel nearly a full minute of biting her to completely drain her and he could only do it because she let it happen. If Blade tried doing it in a fight she'd just slam him into the ground when he got close. All it would accomplish is letting her get a free lethal hit in.
>Rigging
Truth nuke
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>>151589987
Low Complex/Infinite Multiversal shit through le Necrozma/Palkia scaling and le DSOD intro/manga/Duel Spirit World shit.
Team Ash will argue for Ash having greater stats, better or equal strategy, and that Yugi has a lot more hax but Ash can counter or adapt to it.
Team Yugi will argue for equal or better stats, better strategy and better hax.
I'd imagine there'd be a preamble about Yubel's 12D feat about how it does say dimension, but then universe making the scaling questionable, although I guess they could argue for 12 universes that are 12D? Actually how exactly do shit like VSBW even compare destroying a single 4D space universe to infinite universes? Both are infinity x universal no?
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It's unironically over for anyone who still thinks there's a point to any of this. If you drop the cope and actually use your brain you realize that without some sky-daddy there are no ultimate values, right and wrong are just made-up rules, and your preference for "love" over "hate" is as arbitrary as choosing a favorite color. All of Western philosophy and science, the supposed peak of human reason, just logically dead-ends at the blackpilled realization that life is meaningless. Your belief in anything, even reason itself, is totally groundless because rationalism ultimately eats its own tail and leads to nihilism. The most hilarious part is watching NPCs cling to the idea that life is inherently better than death which is nothing more than a widespread superstitious dumb biological bias hardwired into us like a fear of the dark. If you're a consistent materialist you have to admit you're just a random chunk of matter with no special rights over a rock and since non-living matter vastly outnumbers living matter, death literally wins by a democratic landslide. The only truly rational and egalitarian position is to treat life and death as the same, to overcome your provincial life bias and accept that it's all just nothing.
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>>151589987
>>151590111
I think they'll just go with Palkia and Yubel stuff and say each feat down for both would still have a similar gap.
12D Yubel won't be used because the only evidence is just straight up a bad translation and the feat itself doesn't really meet the criteria for higher dimensions anyway.
Won't be a cleansweep, I think Team Yugi's argument will be around trying to discredit higher scaling for Ash but keeping their own (both are fraudulent)
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>>151588906
Could Jack show Sam a good time?
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>>151590142
It'll probably be
>Low Ends: 12x Universal (Yubel) vs 1x Universal (Palkia)
>High End: Infinite Multiversal/4D shit (DSOD) vs Infinite Multiversal/4D shit (Necrozma)
>Really fucking High End: 12D Yubel + Duel Links + Endless Duel Spirit Worlds + All the spinoff anime/manga vs Whatever Composite Pokemon with True Arceus is
Give or take
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>>151590137
Death Battles for this feel?
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>>151590111
VSBW have 4D universes as low 2-c because it involves destroying the space and time of the universe
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>>151590196
CHADsday vs CHADulk
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>>151590111
>>151590183
actually does anyone scale to the DSOD infinite multiversal stuff? Holactie scaling is just speculation
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>>151589525
Post it happening in the anime
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>>151590196
Ah, why Kratos vs Asura of course!
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>>151590137
Trans nihilists lost.
HumanityCHADS Won.
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>>151590263
Aryan!
>>151590137
Indian...
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>>151590227
I thought Super Sonic was invincible... why are there so many instances of this rat getting knocked out of the form?
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I still don't get how Hulkbro made the connection between Trans Nihilists and Godzilla Ultima wankers
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>>151590303
There was a troon that was upset about the "message" of the Hulk vs Godzilla fight
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>>151590236
Not really. At best you can say that there's a Horakhty in each universe responsible for its "creation". Isn't the point of them saying there's a multiverse is to explain why the anime and manga timelines are slightly different? That makes more sense than "they wanted to buff my character for internet powerscaling debates"
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>>151590142
Equal stats significantly favors Yugi, even being exceptionally generous in hax resistance, the fact that Yugi has a bunch of reborn spells and ways to retrieve his spells and traps means he would be heavily favored in a war of attrition. Kinda unfortunate they don't have a "Team Ambivalent" because I'd imagine Team Yugi would argue for better stats through Kaiba ascending a dimension and some additional shit to get him higher than Necrozma, while a more reasonable team would probably argue that Yugi gets strategy and hax and they have equal stats or something.
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It really is Eggman Vs. Bowser again, and Yugi is the one with magic hax. You can't make this shit up.
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A cuck that caaaaan't...CONTROL HIS WEINEEEEER
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>>151590183
yubel being 12x universal isn't really a "low end" given the feat is arguably not even 1x universal. they're also not going to call palkia 1x universal lowend with all the dbz realm stacking shit they'll do for pokemon
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>>151590345
I don't know. It feels like they're setting Yugi up to die by giving him non-standard stuff like Time Wizard.
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>>151590355
Does Pokemon even have miscellaneous shit in addition to the standard universe size? Isn't it just Ultra Space which is a dimension connecting to all universes?
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>>151590317
Screencap?
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>>151590236
maybe Kaiba with prep time but I have no idea if anyone scales to that stuff besides intelligence
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Ranked from biggest to smallest their options are Creation trio > Yubel highball > Ultra Necrozma > Yubel lowball > Base Necrozma > Zorc eclipse > Pokemon low-ends > Yugioh low-ends. So if they full send it Ash wins but they could also just pick any of these against eachother depending on how they feel
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>>151590392
so happy that Yami Yugi agreed to sing Kaiba's self-hate song
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>>151590364
It was still objectively his card in the novel
>>151590397
I honestly think scaling is going to be a nonfactor
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>>151590397
you should probably put regular Pokémon high end above Zorc's eclipse because isn't the black hole thing just 5 yottatons higher then the eclipse
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>>151590364
A lot of the red flags are basically ultra hyped up final boss shit like LE being from the Source, or GER being the final stand of Part 5, or Bardock's dubiously canon Super Saiyan. By comparison, Time Wizard is a Level 2 500 ATK monster Yugi gives Joey that debuts in Episode 6. They also implied he's not getting Exodia, which is like, actual final boss material.
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>>151590421
wasn't the breathing gun also hyped up despite having 5 whole panels of Blade using it and 7 comic appearances for it?
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>>151590384
Palkia lore says it creates "parallel dimensions" beyond just its home world so that would probably actually include Ultra Space worlds on top of things like the Spirit World, that place where all the Unown live, the realms where it and Dialga reside, various "other dimensions" that some non-UB Pokemon can come from, etc as a "lowball", if not the entire multiverse. It's about as much fair game as each of Yubel's "dimensions" being a full universe
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>>151589742
>He presumably lost to [HEADCANON]
Reminder Ash lost to Misty
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Admittedly it is possible it's another Bowser vs Eggman scenario in which both get the more unconventional shit and Ash gets like, Rayquaza, Zygarde, Zekrom, and Reshiram or some shit to give him something more exciting to fight the Egyptian Gods with
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>>151590421
I don't think they're not giving Yugi Exodia. They're just making a joke about it getting thrown away. It's one of his most iconic guys and it will 100% be in the fight even if it's just to job
>Captcha: TRVHH
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>>151590421
The thing is that the breathing gun and the life equation both had drawbacks that had their usages questionable. Time Wizard doesn't really.. have any drawbacks. Unless you count the rng, but Joey just activating it out of the gate just calls into question if this really even matters.
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How bad will the tranny crashouts be when Bakugou beats Reze
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>>151590421
It makes no sense lumping TW among those anyway because absolutely no one was hyping TW being in the battle in the first place. If anything I'd say any mention of Solgaleo is the bigger red flag
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>>151590486
Time Wizard's drawback is that Yugi has to get it out and let it live long enough to activate. It's not instant.
Sure if Yugi's basically already winning and gets to spam unanswered distractions he can do it, but I don't think he's gonna get enough speed or "uncounterable" spells to do so.
Even for the Breathing Gun they were like "yeah this could fuck her up if it lands but she could just not get hit or overpower Blade first idk" which is kinda what Ash's answer to half Yugi's hax is anyway
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KIIIIIIIINNNGGGTTTTTOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSS
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>>151590491
there are a billion and 1 trannies populating the mha cuckdom
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>>151589330
Serena really is a character cursed by shippers. It says something that they excluded her from the XY group shot in Journeys, then had her not interact with Ash at all during her guest appearance in that show. I'm pretty sure there's a leaked email floating around where staff talked about never touching on romance ever again in the Pokemon anime due to the constant badgering they received specifically from overseas shippers.
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>>151590522
>Time Wizard's drawback is that Yugi has to get it out and let it live long enough to activate. It's not instant.
Did you miss the part where I said that Joey activated it instantly outside of a duel.
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>>151590491
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rNO5BwtJIE
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>>151590547
KEEEEEEEEEEEK
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They could argue Time Wizard's "MILLIONS OF YEARS PASSED BY IN AN INSTANT" as a speed feat, it's not like we haven't had dumber MFTL+ arguments in the past
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>>151590544
and how consistent is that?
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>>151590596
He does it practically every episode
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>>151590486
The drawback is that Yugi doesn't have the card, so it will look embarrassing if it's actually important to the verdict
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>>151590556
Honestly yeah, it's WAY more likely that pretty much everything that has been discussed about this matchup has been completely irrelevant and death battle has chosen the winner based on something absurd no one has ever discussed before

How much play was "SUN DISK" getting before the episode?
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>>151590608
Too bad Death Battle gave it to him :)
They're setting up alternative win conditions for Yugi btw. Like Duel Armor and Mind Crush
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>>151590608
>The drawback is that Yugi doesn't have the card
One of the guys on the team outright say they're giving him TW because of the novel.
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>>151590547
LMAO WHAT IS THIS MHA FANS?
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>>151590627
https://myheroacademia.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Transgender
SHE is Stunning and Beautiful, Chud
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The Bowser vs Eggman comparison is apt because even though they gave both everything, it was confirmed the animation deliberately opted to focus on the things most well known, associated and iconic for them even if it wasn't necessarily their most powerful. It's why Eggman's trump card in the animation is the Death Egg and not Time Eater, or why Bowser powers up with a Grand Star and not the Dream Stone.
I suspect the same will apply here, with the possible exception of substituting Exodia for Horakhty.
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>Stand proud, Gohan...you were strong.
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>>151590640
Isn't that character meant to be a trans man? As in born female.
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>>151590603
ok so I searched it up and that's a fucking lie
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>>151590652
yes that one is FTM
the one with red hair and a patchy beard is MTF
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>>151590137
>since non-living matter vastly outnumbers living matter, death literally wins by a democratic landslide
So you claim to not care about preconceived notions of right or wrong but then you literally use democracy as proof for abiotic matter "winning" over the actual living organism
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>>151590421
If Yugi doesn't get Exodia he's totally going to win. There's no way they'd have him lose without giving him Exodia because everyone would be asking "What about Exodia?"

>>151590486
>>151590522
TW isn't even that good of a hax beast. Gandora does the same thing he does but also gets to put in a kill shot.

>>151590641
I bet most of what Yugi plays will be Duelist Kingdom cards plus his gods. They might bring out Gandora, because that was little Yugi's ace, but I don't think we're seeing any magnet warriors or gadgets or silent swordsman.
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>>151590655
Death Battle shows characters at their peak so Time Wizard will be able to instantly use it. Sorry Ashfags
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>>151590392
Yami looks Zetsy here
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>>151590643
>We did it, Goku! We beat Mark!
>Guys, that was Debbie...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFBFVzvsnkg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw1cRarjX8c
Yeah I'm not sure where the argument that Time Wizard takes a long time to charge up is coming from, that shit was under 10 seconds
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If Ash wins how much of his team will be remaining? It would be extremely bittersweet if he was left with just Pika.
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>>151590667
>"What about Exodia?"
He has Holactie which also automatically wins the game AND has on screen feats. They'll say "He had her and she was better", win or lose.
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>>151588504
Please stop pitching this awful fucking matchup
>"B-but they're both pilots-"
This is barely a defining feature of there character, that's like doing Hellsing Alucard vs John Marston cause they both shoot guns
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The Yugioh novel? Does NOT count.
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>>151590655
If it's done once, it's good enough for death battle.
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>>151590620
Also even if you argue that Ash can just "smash the clock"
Yugi still has plenty of ways to clockblock Ash. By putting up a barrier and using multiply. Swords of revealing light alone blocked a whole fleet of monsters and trapped them. Or he could hide TW behind an army of kuribohs.
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>>151590680
Honestly I think they'll probably just have them faint at worse to be le respectful. That or it's only Pikachu left and they make Ash a psycho and say something like he gets to catch more Pokemon now.
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When will deathbattle have two gay characters fight each other because that's a connection they have? Like storm and korra fought because they both were black women. Where's the gay deathbattle?
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>>151590679
9 seconds is still a while to stand still and do nothing in an active fight.
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>>151590491
It's weird because most powerscalers agree Bakugou gapes Reze, and obviously the BnH fandom also agrees.
Only the normies part of the CSM fandom think Reze wins, and inside that group you need to look for the secondaries that only watched the movie and don't know the lore of the CSM world to find the people actually engaging in Powerscaling arguments in Reze's favor (mainly the retards saying she's conceptually inmune to explosions, that Bakugou would somehow empower her with his attacks, and that Reze scales to Yoru of all people)
I think a small but loud minority would cause a lot of seething
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>>151590677
The ancient Egyptians were zesty in general, look up the story of Horus and Set and lettuce
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>>151590671
>characters at their peak and it's Time Wizard's first appearance before the spinner got introduced
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To this very day I still seethe at how DISRESPECTFUL Pikachu's death was at the hands of Blanka...There had better NOT be a repeat of that...
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desu I'd imagine a "respectful death" could be Ash turning into a ghost and either him or Yugi remarking about a rematch some day or something
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>>151590702
It depends on how viable TW is. His resources are still limited. I know it can use it once per turn but it's situational. Maybe he just used up his good defense spells and traps and monster reborns on him, Ash manages to destroy it with some Pokemon left. Now what?
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>>151590680
all we need is Charizard dying
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>>151589987
Ash:
+ Higher strength floor, higher strength ceiling
+ Significantly faster
+ Has more "top tier" monsters
+ Possible revival/self-revival
+ Better "on the fly" strategy
+ Can block or dodge some of Yugi's hax
- Can't revive fallen monsters
- Can't afford to take a hit from most of Yugi's hax

Yugi:
+ More powers
+ Can revive fallen monsters
+ Better "planned" strategy
- Stamina drains significantly when the Gods go down
- Most non-God monsters are fodder
- Too slow and arguably too weak to keep up
- Fucked if he loses the Puzzle and/or Atem
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>>151590726
by "most powerscalers" you mean the small but loud minority who screech how the boy who has never blown up a building is continental
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>>151590743
The most likely one is Holactie turning him and Pikachu to a statue and Yugi saying he was the very best like no one ever was.
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>>151590697
Jiren is for CHADllen theCHADlien.
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>>151590731
The implication of the Seth Horus story was basically claiming foreigners are barbaric depraved sodomites hungry for the throne and also sodomy
Like how the story of Lot concludes with Israel's neighbors being called the product of incestuous rape
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CHAAAAAAAAAAADDTTTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSS
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>>151590761
>- Stamina drains significantly when the Gods go down
Ba was a rule made by Bakura.
Also
+ Atem has a revival method
- Yugi does not
- If Yugi's body is gone then Atem does not have a revival method
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>>151590791
>drowned out by ash vs yugi
>drowned out as secondary discussion by geats vs nero
Kratosura bros... is it finally over?
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>>151590798
who the fuck is "geats"
geats these nuts
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>>151590723
>Mirror Force
>Swords of Revealing Light
>Dimension Gaurdian
Or just.. keep Ash distracted long enough to fuck him over. If Yugi uses SORL Ash's first instinct is telling his Pokemon to use bruteforce and try and break through it. Which would make them get stuck. Ash is clever, but he's not smart enough to know what the effects of the cards are.
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>>151590798
The stains of Krasura will never fully wash off
Even if discussion isn't literally about Krasura is certainly spiritually is
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>>151588104
The idea that out of 200+ episodes, not a single episode was rigged or biased in any way is shockingly a horrible thing to suggest in most places.
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>>151587879
I liked Friezatron more. Also has one of the best tracks.
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>>151590810
good thing Yugi will tell him
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>>151587891
Gru VS Megamind feels like an easy go-to season starter ep.
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>>151590804
Why does this look like Tomar?
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what time do the blogs usually come out?
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>>151590816
this. Kratos ripped our minds apart like a sheet of paper. We can tape it back together, but it will never truly be whole again
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>>151590827
In under 10 seconds while Time Wizard is "TIME MAGIC"ing?
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>>151590837
Herculad made Tomar a better man
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>>151590227
What is this even from?
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>>151589920
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>>151590847
yes
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>>151590839
No real consistent time, they come out whenever they're finished. Should be today though.
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>>151590850
...When Tomar killed him and Herculad was reincarnated as a Lil Tomar.
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>>151590810
How durable are those spells and traps? Are they all permanent?
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>>151590854
Advance 2
Same game series Sonicfags use to claim he went Super for a week, btw (He almost certainly didn't, but just assuming you still wanna use those games)
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>>151588479
Link beats Cloud though, especially with Fierce Deity.
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>there's an alternate timeline where netflix now owned death battle
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>>151590421
It's probably more because he has Holactie who is just "Exodia but 'stronger'"
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>>151590847
You and I both know explanations are not done in real time
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>>151590868
There goes the "Knuckles only knocked Sonic out of his Super Form because he controls the Master Emerald" excuse.
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Actually it's pointless to discuss what Ash can do against Time Wizard because he canonically doesn't need to spin anything to work. He's not held back by game rules and rng. Instant time magic
Explain how Ash beats that :)
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Where is the new version of Tails vs. Luigi?
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>>151590903
>>151590655
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>>151590867
As far as I know, swords of revealing light has never been busted through. If anything, it acts more like a fly ribbon trap for monsters.
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>>151590906
You only get rematches if both characters got an upgrade, not if one character got a huge downgrade
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Didn't we find out Pikachu can just use Raigeki whenever he wants on demand?
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So will they end up giving Yugi Duel Armor or no?
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>Knuckles can knock the Super out of Sonic
>A bomb can knock the Super out of Sonic
>A moon can knock the Super out of Sonic
Goku is punching Hyper Sonic's head clean off.
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>>151590902
did the small rock that Knuckles threw at Hyper Sonic also control the Master Emerald?
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>>151590906
only if they composite both of them
let the heavens shake with the clash of these two legends
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>>151590913
Not really. Isn't Raigeki divine lightning or something?
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>>151590913
He can't, he replaced Thunder with Volt tackle.
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>>151590919
that wasn't a bomb it was one of those hollow capsules eggman keeps rabbits and piggies in
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>>151590909
Death Battle has combatants at their peak. TW at his peak can just use it whenever he wants instantly
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>>151590917
well what does the Duel Armor even give? 3 weeks with 0 explanation
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>>151590928
Tails can't take that form again in archie. It was a one-time thing that had a ton of prep behind it (by Zonic, so Tails can't even prep it himself assuming he could do it again)
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>Atem is known for uncanny luck
>"Erm, what if Time Wizard failed anyway?"
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>>151590934
It exploded on re-entry, bombish enough
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>>151590940
It lets him suplex dragons.
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Alright we've got about a day left of this stuff and I see the Ash bros are squrmin a bit, thats ok.

I'd like to offer all my Ash friends a way out, we just need to post overwhelming Ash feats so we know the results. Lets start off simple, lets show Ash destroying the moon
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>>151590948
Sub Batman level bomb
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>>151590940
Depends on the armor but generally speaking it juices Yugi's personal stats and gives him utility like being able to fly and such. I think someone also posted a clip of him having precognition and trapping someone trying to read his mind
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>>151590910
I think there are possible ways around it then. Ranged attacks or flying over it sounds viable
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>>151590867
Kinda iffy. If you go by the 4kids filler its infinite. If you go by canon he cant actually use spells and trap cards outside of a duel so they would basically be useless in this fight. They arent taking turns and theres no phases so most cards cant actually pop. Maybe some like super specific spell and trap cards could work that dont mention turns or game mechanics. He will most likely be stuck with monsters and using their effects seen outside of battle in the anime.like Time Wizard's rewind or Pegasus' monster holding up a brick wall. Even stuff like Time Wizard happened in a fully virtual world so theres no guarantee the effect actually works in the "real" world. Atleast in the way we saw Joey use it.
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>>151590935
is it really a peak if the first instance was prior to a retcon and the second was anime filler fucking up like how Kid Buu could speak normally in the Z filler?
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>>151590765
Reze also never destroyed a building, plus if you are into Powerscaling chances are you understand the difference between AP and DC.
Plus BnH generally scales higher than CSM so most powerscalers are inclined to think Bakugou would indeed beat Reze just by virtue of the scaling both characters have
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SCHOLARtos
HEROtos
KINGtos
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>If you go by the 4kids filler
So you can have that but Ash getting the canon Gachaslop mobile game is a stretch
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>>151590953
damn
building level
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Can Raimi Spider-Man beat MCU Captain America or does Cap's Thanos scaling beat Peter out?
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>>151590974
Wouldn't the logical conclusion to 4kids filler be that Ash gets the movies?
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>>151590979
It's retarded that either of them are even remotely close to Iron Man but they both scale to him.
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>>151590974
If we ignore filler, 90% of the Pokemon anime wouldn't get used.
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>>151590979
Thanos scales past Hulk who scales to that time Thor restarted a dying star with just his triceps
you do the math
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>>151587863
Based and CANON
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>>151590979
I think Cap wins. He has better feats and has fought way worse than Raimi Peter.
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>>151590986
The movies are brought up in the main show constantly. Does the 4kids filler get brought up or referenced in the sequel seasons?
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>>151590227
I just realized this also completely throws the idea of Sonic gaining extra super strength upon transforming out of the window cause he's struggling to lift a fucking roughly 6 feet tall capsule here
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>>151590953
You first. Show Giant Soldier of Stone destroying the moon.
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>>151590974
I think 4kids stuff will be included but the argument is one is official and the other is a commission made by a western studio. Were the novels Japanese? I can see it being some weird mid 2000s scholastic book also.
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>>151590965
You had a whole movie of Reze blowing up a skyscraper onscreen
>finna imma shitta
Please come up with your own arguments next time instead of parroting low iq negros on twitter. Most powerscalers aren't the black retards who think mha characters "scale" to continental
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>>151590827
It seems an underrated factor that Yugi tends to fully explain everything he does to his opponents and Ash is very good at engineering quick solutions if he fully understands a problem
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>>151590993
Doctor Ock held a not dead star in the palm of his tentacles and Peter scales to those tentacles. He'd rip Cap in Half.
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>*Kisses Yugi's chastity cage*
>Go and win for your mistress and maybe I'll give you a reward
>*Smacks Yugi's Ass*
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>>151590959
Ash Is going to have 10 seconds to act, my guy. By the time he comes up with something, it will be too late. Tell me with a straight face that his first instinct isn't going to use bruteforce.
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>>151591017
why is bejita into such weirdoshit
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>>151591017
What's her punishment for Yugi when he comes back a loser?
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>>151591026
it depends entirely on what speed they give him
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>>151591006
>Movie
If we go with movies Bakugou has better feats, as he can destroy formations of natural rock with his explosions and melt huge iron cubes hundreds of km in the sky.
Plus Reze never destroyed a skyscraper in the movie, the whole thing is still standing after her attack.
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>>151591010
Thor held an actual star. a "star" small enough to fit in your palms is a self-sustaining candle
Cap onepuches Soiboy Peter then cucks him again
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>>151591026
10 seconds is a long time in a fight and Ash is a quick thinker. I know he's dumb but he's not going stand there and watch the spinner go. Yugi needs to put in the effort too.
>>151591036
This too
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>>151591005
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Yu-Gi-Oh!_(novel)
It's Japanese, I believe the original chapter at the end has some new illustrations by Takahashi as well, like one for the new card it introduces
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>>151590965
Pipe down Bakucuck, before your own explosions knock you out again
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>>151591035
Half a week of neglect play
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>>151591048
>Rex Splode's concubine is speaking
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>>151591048
God I fucking hate this retarded latinx faggot
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I don't really get why we have random fetishposters for characters entirely unrelated to the fight
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>>151591048
>Art made by a seething Brazilian troon who selfs inserts as Deku
KEKAROOOO
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Such a shame the fight is guaranteed to be under 5 minutes. Bowser vs Eggman was so jam packed with action and was still under 5 minutes. If anything is going to match that one it's this. What do you want out of the fight?
>Gandora showing up
>Torterra having a moment
>Infernape punching a god in the face
>Silent Swordsman showing up and it changing appearance as it grows stronger
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>>151590761
Yugisxsters it's all over...
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>>151591059
>latinx
YWNBAW
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What if Yugi has the gods distract Ash's pokemon long enough to activate TW
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>>151591047
Oh that's neat. I know they used b roll of capsule monsters but it also could have exclusively been that. I think we just need to wait and see if 4kids stuff is included
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>Rezekeks still think they can talk back to BakuCHADs after pathetically jobbing in the Death Battle Cast
>Now without their NLF arguments all they have left is downplay
I really hope we get Bakugou Vs Reze next year, that would be the biggest "Fuck around find out" moment in Powerscaling history"
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>>151591063
>Torterra having a moment
This most of all is what I want to happen but it's very unlikely since Ash has more iconic mons
But seeing Torterra actually getting a win AS a Torterra would be great.
It went down hill as soon as it evolved from Turtwig and lost all its speed, but I was optimistic that Ash WOULD be able to adapt to Grottle/Torterra's new fighting style and make the most of it.
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>>151591085
goddamn i typed "trans mha" into google image as a joke but why is there SO MUCH wtf is this
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>>151591023
>>151591017
Bejita is kinda based...
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>*HUFF HUFF* GOOGLE.COM DEKU TRANS FLAG FANART, SAVE TO PC, NOW POST IN /DBG/ THREAD ON /CO/
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>>151591086
Technically viable. Would be good to use if it's just Pikachu. Though is it possible a thundershock could blast the area and hit TW too.
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>>151591095
Should've gotten Shell Smash in a league from the next seasons. Sadly they stopped doing that after Sinnoh.
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>Tranny posting and femdom posting in the same thread
On my god...
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>>151591086
Obelisk has the anime effect of not allowing any other monster on the field to be attacked while its out.
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