womp womp
>>151600937oh did she write for the game? no she fucking didnt, the stupid cunt.
>>151600937Big comics screwing over its creators, as always.
>>151600937Serves that jewish rat right.
>>151601077>get paid to come up with stuff for someone else>complain when that person uses THEIR propertyshe could've just up her own money to put out her own comics and get all the royalties she wants
>>151601077not what happened you fucking retard. its like saying she didnt enter a race and its okay to complain she didnt get an award for competing in said race
>>151600937shouldn't Stan Lee and Steve Ditko, get some of her paycheck?
It's a Spiderman color palette. She knew damn well somene else would take the opportunity if she didn't immediately jump on it for peanuts. I hope she gets raped by an AI art robot.
>>151601143>get some of her paycheck?the point of the thread is that she didnt get a paycheck.
>>151601162she got a paycheck for creating Black Spider Man.
>>151601182She didn't do that though. She was in a diaper when that happened.
>>151601182she didnt create venom or spiderman noirjokes aside, shes a fucking retarded women for even thinking that creating a character means you need to get money for it, if there was royalties due like it was agreed years ago or something id understand.
>>151600937>Miles was co-created by BendisMaybe that's the problem.
>>151600937Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Besides, she's the fucking "co-creator" and she made a halfrican Spider-man OC. She deserves less than nothing.
>>151601195it says in OP she created him
>>151600937>it took two people to make a shit character no one likes that gets push everywherewild
>>151600937This explains why her Champions variant character was the worse one of the bunch and she put no effort into it.Why make another great designed character Marvel won’t give you royalties for?
>>151600937Isn’t Miles a Bendis creation?
Lmao I bet Bendis gets millions
>>151601239kek
>>151601239Probably 500 other fanboys in their 40s were ignored when they did the same thing before her
>>151601245oh my days i was just thinking about that fucking design with the dreads hanging out. its honestly fucking gross, it was symbiote thing it would probably look cool
>>151600937>What if Spider-Man, but he's black. And his costume is black too!Was it that much of a creative process? She did not exactly make something really super huge and original.
>>151601149Saaaar!!!
>>151601289woah woah woah. hes only HALF BLACK, hes also port of reekons as well
>>151600937Good. Suffer.
>>151600937On the one hand it’s shitty when marvel or dc creators don’t get any sort of kickbacks when their creations are used in other media. On the other hand she co-created Miles which is, hands down, the absolute worst thing to ever happen to Marvel or DC Comics so she can eat a dick
That horrid female writer on a pedestal shit started creeping into the cons at the end of the 00s.
>>151600937>be on contract for a publishing house>create a character by demand>specifically a character who is supposed to get attached to a pre-existing brand - this is the case if you think Miles is "Spider-Man" or not>You've now been paid to produce a company asset that can be used in a myriad of ways>complain that you don't get royalties for an asset you actually don't ownDoes artists have a special level of narcissistic entitlement? The equivalent would be if EVERY software engineer who works on a new version of Windows got a cut when said software is used, even in future renditions. That not how compensation for labor works, and your insane if you think it should.If she wanted royalties, make your own original creations and place the risk investment to publish it yourself. If you want residual payments, get a contract that promises that.
>>151601389its a jewish female, dont worry about it too much.
>>151600937Play woke games, win woke prizes
>>151600937Cry me a river, the fat bitch is famous and can walk into any job she likes. Has it made for the rest of her life. And she's complaining that she doesn't get royalties from nigger Spiderman? Fuck off.
>>151601389I'd like to say you're a special kind of stupid, but the truth is you're trite. You hate this person without a first thought, much less a second, and immediately side with the multi-billion dollar company because of it. Corporations thrive off the existence of people like you.Creator ownership and royalties are fraught, complex matters. Marvel has been taken to court, multiple times, over these matters. Marv Wolfman, Steve Gerber, the estates of Jack Kirby and Steve Ditko... there's contention, here. There might be a case, if she cared to file one.You, though, don't care. Let the Peter Davids of the world die poor; it's so much important that a company can go for another round of buybacks.
>>151600937as if miles isn't the most soulless designed by committee piece of shit thing ever.
>>151601077this one deserves it for creating an abomination that contributed to the ruination of spider-man.
>>151600937it's a recolor. an alternate skin in a video game. an excuse to not pay the lee/ditto estates their dues
>>151600937BENDISBENT-DAT
>>151600937damn bendis looks like that these days?!
>>151602386>they handed me with words about stuff shit.....
I'm sure Bendis will share with her some of the royalties he somehow managed to get for himself.
>>151600937kek lmao lmao lmao oh geez huh that sucks at least you got to own the chuds that read spiderman
>>151603905Ah yes, the famed jewish munificence.
>>151602186but enough about Gwen Stacy
>>151602186One more day?
>>151601130>come up with the thing that makes a company obscene amounts of money and clout>receive nothing>/co/: I hate it when it happens to creatives I like, but this time it's based!
>>151601200>it's fine that jap animators get paid pennies on the dollar after the industry screwed everyone over decades ago, if it wasn't supposed to be like that then they would have made a better deal back thenThis is what you sound like.
Why does 4chan think Oshima deserves all rights to Sonic for drawing him but somehow when it comes to a woman receiving credit for her work, all of a sudden we hate the idea of creatives receiving their dues.
>>151601389>The equivalent would be if EVERY software engineer who works on a new version of Windows got a cut when said software is used, even in future renditions.Explain why this shouldn't be the case. Hard mode: keep your tongue off of corpo boots.>your insaneAnd a good morning to you as well, sir!
>>151604637Because Sonic isn't a blatant brown rip-off of Mario pushed into every piece of Mario media.
>>151604595Depends on how much she did.It feels like damn near every time a woman "co-creates" something, she's dotting the eyes on a character in one page of a comic, or writing ten unimportant lines of code for the 999999999-line code to synthesize the cure to cancer, and then she either gets rightfully shafted by the media and she bitches about not making 99999B dollars, or the media latches onto her and calls her the mastermind of the whole thing and that she's going down in history right alongside Newton and Einstein.>look her up>she refers to Miles as "the new Spider-Man"Ugh.
>>151601245>barely redesign spider-man's main suit and invert the coloursLet's be honest it's not like she actually did much. Better Spider-Man designs have been made by more talented artists
>>151601389You angered the people who demand residuals.
>>151604595>you have to fight for the rights of grifters too!No? lmao. Get fucked, idiot.
>be contracted to do something >read through contract, 0 royalties involved >get paid for your work >wtf, where are my royalties
>>151600937Let me guess, the only one who get royalties from any of Miles shit is Bendis, right?
NTA but>>151601890> You hate this person without a first thought, much less a secondJewish females are contemptible beings that deserve hate. As many anons pointed out, she should actually be punished for the creation of this diversity mascot that has done nothing but drag down the overall IP>Corporations thrive off the existence of people like youYou’re unironically right, if corpors that produce media IP actually listened to disgruntled fans more, they’d be doing gangbusters. If Yids-ney had balls and kicked out the Kennedy and the carpetmunxher crew for instance, Star Wars might not be a dead IP and they’d be doing gangbusters. >>151604645Again NTA but it’s been possible for longer than you or I have been alive to develop and distribute software as an individual. When software is released by a big company, there’s the expectation that it works with the ecosystem of software already in place, that the technical infrastructure like servers exist to enable its widespread use, etc. Also SWEs get performance-based bonuses all the time, so it’s not like they get nothing for their work
>>151600937>makes woke garbage for free
>>151600937>Lets make Spider-Man an unlikable blexican
>>151604724He’s Mickey Mouse with spikes
But I thought /co/ liked Miles
>>151600937>made spiderman a nigger
>>151605130No you didn't
>>151600937I hate miles morales and I would probably hate this woman personally but it doesn’t sit right with me that retard Sony executives and cunty video game people make more from her work than she does
>>151605038>there’s the expectationCan't hear you, lift your head away from that boot. Who created that expectation? Why do you sound so jewish?
>>151605157Don't tell me what I think, buddy
>>151605142sheeeit nigga you just jealous he got a trans girlfriend
>>151600937Bendis might have gotten her royalties, which is sad, but it's Bendis so it's no surprise
>>151605235Yeah its kinda unfair desu but shes a woman so im very happy she got screwed over.
>>151600937>>151600953>>151601129protect the company!
>>151605387>protect the jewish slut!
>>151605487>protect the jewish company! And Bendis! The writer. The jewish writer.
>>151605487>protect the jewish company!
>>151605487who the fuck do you think owns the company
>>151600937If they have to pay her royalties, than that is less money for the shareholders, CEO and upper management and comics are struggling right now.
Why are Spin fans like this
>>151600937Jew gets Jewed
>>151605751SPINBROS... WHAT IS THIS
>>151604724You're right, instead he's a blatant brown rip-off of Goku down to his character motivations kept in life support for so long his delusional fans actually think he's in any way better than him
>>151600937This is the kinda horseshit I worry about with my own work. I got into a fucking spat with someone on this board because I was trying to figure out ways to get my work produced without a grubby fucking artist trying to get continuous royalties and then this bitch comes along.But seriously, the real question is how much did she contribute? I have scripts at the ready, a story bible on deck, and tons of concept art already scribbled away. If I bring in an artist, I'm treating them exclusively as a hired gun. I like this artist mind you, but wanting royalties might be a stretch.>>151604958The writer? Bendis the writer? The one who actually writes the stories and the characters and the themes and everything? Who woulda thought?
What happened to that "Spiderman" who was disabled & trans and shot webs out of her crutches and kept her wheelchair folded on her back?
Wait what’s the reason? Doesn’t that bald fuck Bendis get royalties every time he creates a black OC?
>>151605185Oh my god you’re coping so fucking hard “why do you sound so jewish” you’re literally arguing for a jew who barely contributed to the subversion of the white race and you want to paint the guy talking about getting over yourself when working in a group as a jew?
That is some Atlas Shrugged silliness. For those who don't read (or at least, don't read bad books), the underlining plot / mystery was: *Guy worked for company, got paid a salary, is tasked with making what was essentially a perpetual motion machine.*Guy succeeds, and expects full ownership of the thing he was paid to make.*Company takes ownership of the motor. Man leaves job in anger, and in his outrage he plots a secret 'strike of the mind' to ruin the country, leading to the events of the book. *...but leaves behind the motor and even the documentation for it, because even he acknowledges that they are the company's property.It's just silly. Pichelli collaborated with Bendis on Miles's design while working for Marvel. The big cape companies famously own the IP for their characters. What did she expect?And she still works with Marvel! There's talk she's working with Bendis again next year. So what, is she trying to active set herself up for an even sadder part of her life?
>>151605850We don't know the details of those contracts. He may or may not get residuals for any official works depicting Miles Morales and (the ultimate universe version of) Jessica Drew. I personally doubt it, though.Pichelli commented that she doesn't get royalties for things outside of comics (movies, games, merch) involving the character. We don't know the details of what she _does_ get compensation for.
>>151605942Yeah Liefeld doesn't get paid for Deadpool and McFarlane doesn't get paid for Venom....but they should award her with a plaque or little pin or something...fucking cheapskates.
>>151605942>What did she expect?DC pays creators for adaptations. But yeah, she still works for Marvel so you get what you fucking deserve.
>>151601129Italians are not Jews
>>151601389Hello sarrrr
>>151605751>Spiderman avatar>third world country flag on the side>white knighting about either console wars or capeshit Why is this so fucking common? I'm not kidding, I've multiple accounts with this formula for Venezuela, Brazil, Bulgaria e Argentina doing the same loyal manchild routine! Is it the same guy over and over? Is this a inside joke?
Something was always fuckable about Pichelli. I'm not the only one right?
>>151601129based literal retard
>>151606088Jim Starlin got paid more for the use of KGBeast in Batman v Superman (Did you know he was even there?) than he got for using Thanos in the whole MCU.
>>151605782she's not even Jewish you fucking brown retard. Italians aren't Jewish. Her last name is already a giveaway that she's Italian, not Jewish. Also, you're Indian
>>151606150https://youtu.be/FbbYcvBS9f0?si=TATXs4IHDaRNk23D
>>151605819You’re a glorified ideas guy, anon. You have nothing without an artist. If you ever have merch it’s going to be an artist’s design they buy it for. When they flip pages, they’re going to look at the art first.
>>151600937Is there any resemblance of miles from the movies from the original one?>Comic Miles is the most generic black guy imaginable >Movie Miles Design is recognizable without the mask>Comic Miles is a sardonic bitter miniature adult because this is how Bendis writes every teenager he ever touched >Movie Miles a young character, going through stuff, figuring stuff out>Comic Miles needs you to accept that he is spider-man no questions asked when he doesn't even live in his original universe >Movie Miles needs to prove to everyone else and to himself he is spider-man with a actual journey and exists on a situation where people desperately need him more than he wishes for (which is 90% of what makes spider-man)
>>151606228>movie Miles is black Peter ParkerDamn so you're saying the Ditko and Lee estates should be receiving the royalties instead, it makes sense though
>>151606040Liefeld does get paid for Deadpool though. He got himself a notably good contract
>>151600937>it took two people to just make a knock off Spider-man but black The idea isn't that original. I get her issue if they made some whole new hero but it's just a color reversal of Spider-man's outfit on a kid that's origin is his uncle Ben stole spiders.
>>151606222It's cute that you think you can sit at the big boy's table because you can make a pretty picture. Actually having understanding of story structure, characterization and growth, panel placement and layout, all that is is beyond you. So stay in your lane and draw your little pictures, because ultimately I we can swap your ass out and try with someone else if necessary. Can't pull that shit off with a writer nearly as easy.
>>151600937>take a pre-existing character>turn it into a black kid>"but it was MY creation!"
>>151600937You think bendis gets royalties for miles?
>>151600937>This entire threadWhen did /co/ become a den of simps for the Big 2 companies? We've always known that both Marvel and DC are absolutely scummy companies that fuck over their creators every fucking time, why are people defending the company here?I doubt Bendis isn't getting royalties, btw
>>151606395Still waiting for that artist to draw your comic, anon. Until then >tl;dr
>>151604725She designed the fucking character, we wouldn't have this discussion at all if Sara Pichelli was a man. This is a good comic artist getting screwed by the comic publisher like ALWAYS. It's insane that just because it's a woman now that it's ok>she refers to Miles as "the new Spider-Man"Yes you fucking nigger, that's what Miles was in the Ultimate universe
>>151601247he wrote it>>151601289his costume is the best thing about him and probably the reason he caught on at all.
>>151606514>>151606560they see 'woman' and 'artist' and chimp out. its never been about justice or actual honesty with these people.
>>151606395>It's cute that you think you can sit at the big boy's tableThe irony...
>>151606514There's immense poetic justice at play here.
>>151606514There's a worlds difference between DC and Marvel, trying to lump them together is disingenuous agenda pushing
>>151606395>It's cute that you think you can sit at the big boy's table because you can make a pretty picture.seething retard thinks because he can't draw he can therefore write, in a delusion the universe appoints talent fairlymany such cases
>>151606560>good comic artistNot really.
Maybe I'm just heartless but being the person who helped draw Miles doesn't grant you ownership of the character. He was made by editorial in 2011, she was never going to get paid for it.
>>151606654PYW
>>151601249
>>151606635Please, Bob Kane? Everything they did to the creators of fucking Superman?Stop trying to glaze DC like it's a different beast than Marvel, they've both been historically awful to their creators. Why the fuck do you think Image exists at all?>>151606654Sara Pichelli is objectively a good comics artist, it doesn't matter if you don't like the subject or Miles of whatever, she is OBJECTIVELY a good comic artist.Also >>151606693 PYW you fucking crab>>151606634Poetic justice? Bendis is getting the royalties, there's no justice here
>>151606737>try to play the jew's game>get jewedYep. Pichelli can go fuck herselfelli.
>>151606693What?>>151606737She's at best mediocre.
>>151606737Bob Kane got a great contract with DC. He fucked over the people he effectively subcontracted to.And you’re talking about contracts made 80 years ago. Their track record with living creators has mostly been better( though apparently getting worse since the 2010s)
>>151606737Your two examples are 80 years old and in the case of Schuster and Siegel it's a bit more complex once you look into them trying to get one over them. Stan Lee alone screwed over more people than that, and you're ignoring all the recent e samples of DC paying the creators royalties for the creators meanwhile Marvel didn't give Brubaker a cent for Winter Soldier and the directors had to hire him as a cameo in the movie to get him any pay, he had to buy his own movie ticket. DC isn't perfect but it's nowhere close to Marvel when it comes to screening over creators.
Based and get fucked for helping ruin comics.
>>151606109They're worse. They invented "We Wuzzin" by constantly bringing up the Roman Empire despite pissing that away 1000 years ago.
>>151601129pichelli is an italian name
>>151601129>>151601417>>151603996>>151605487>>151605782Do you retards think every white person is Jewish?
>>151605142>I said the gamer word! I fit in now!
>>151605751>>151605800Peter isn’t even called Spider-Man, he’s called Spidey because they’re all little kids in this.
>>151600937She should get NEGATIVE money for helping create that cancer.
>>151605887>something something WHITE GENOCIDEHoly shit bro it's a fucking comic book character
Anyone who argues that she should get nothing but is fine with Benis continuing to get royalties is a slimy fucking jewish marveldrone.
>>151608105If you said about black people what Bendis said about white people you'd definitely be accused of black genocide
>>151606931YOU do that. You /pol/fags say "we wuz vikings" (rapists and murderers...but white!) and "we wuz romans" (the civilization that destroyed greece with immigration and DEI shit) all the time to justify why you feel superior to coloreds and faggots despite you not doing any of the supposedly great things your supposed ancestors did.
>>151607535This.Miles is fucking trash.
>>151606160>made a black characterShe's honorary jewish like how italians are honorary whites because of their food.
>>151608139Actual whataboutism. I don't care about anything Bendis says and every comic he writes is non-canon to me as are all comic stories associated and directly effected by his stories.
>>151608129Everyone that's glad she's getting fucked over would also wish that horrible acts of violence and torture would happen to Bendis too you fucking idiot.
>>151606395>ultimately I we canWanna try that again, big boy? Maybe you should hire a writer, too.
>>151608208>nooo stop holding me to my own standards that's [buzzword]!!Whataboutism is whataboutism anon
>>151606387>color reversal of Spider-man's outfitAh yes, Peter's classic white-and-green spandex. Who could forget? Whiners don't even know what they're complaining about anymore, you just make shit up to get mad at.
>>151601247Bendis and PIchelli share creator credits, but they both deserve little-to-nothing, because he's still just a riff on Stan Lee's Spider-Man. None of the big two, even at their most generous, offer royalties for lazy half-assed legacy characters.
>>151606614Why should it be?
>>151606827>STAN LEE BADNoticed you waited until he was dead to say this.
>>151606737>pic relYeah nah man, when I think of boring as hell generic 2010's western comic art, I think of Pichelli.
>>151607007>does jewish things>makes jewish characters>has jewish thoughtsNot our fault for calling a spade a jew>>151608242>I may be brown, but at least I don't know what words mean! So HA!Damn kid you got me there
>>151608308Aren't you not supposed to put speech bubbles in the surrounding margin?
>>151608325No...?
>>151606395
>>151600937Finally someone in comics who're being paid fairly for their contributions.
Why is a white woman allowed to claim ownership over a Person of Color? Forget royalties, she should be fined reparations. Miles belongs to the Black community and THEY are the ones who should profit of off his use.
>>151608287No I didn't.
>>151600937Lie with dogs and get fleas. Stay away from hollywood
>>151601077>Sign contract that stipulates your creations aren't yours, but owned by company insteadOh no, my residuals?Read your contracts kids!
>>151600937welcome to the comic industry, retard
>>151601149AI is objectively shit. Fuck off faggot.
>>151604595she was paid to come up with it and knew that from the get go. there was no scamming involved. do you get royalties from everything your job makes or do you just get your paycheck?Again, if it was such a surefire money maker, why didn't she publish it on her own?
You notice creators are never offering to pay back the money they were paid for the ideas that flopped.
>>151609653>Woah, people actually LIKED that shit I came up with? I deserve more money!
>>151606175I'm honestly surprised DC still gives royalties, you think they would find a way to get out of it by saying their restructuring their company whenever Warner Bros gets bought out by some other corporation as a excuse.
KWAB
>>151606395That anon sure struck a nerve. Keep writing, jackass.
>>151600937Literally no one gets royalties anymore, right? I feel like this keeps on getting brought up, but genuinely who does get any, other tha super old IP's
>>151600937Par the course for Marvel. Len Wein got nothing for all Wolverine's movie appearances but got a new house with Lucius Fox money.
>>151608972White women are more of a minority than black guys.
>>151609631: let me prove your point for you.
>>151609653Tangentially related, but>be entertainment product >executives meddle with it until it's unrecognizable>creatives apologize to fans, receive literally all the backlash, some bow out of the industry as a whole or just get fired>untouchable execs continue to meddle and destroy products
Well yeah, it's Marvel.
>>151610653And then after he died they yoinked his credits too.
>>151605751>Miles is called Spider-Man despite there already being a Spider-Man>Gwen is called Ghost-Spider in-comic but Spider-Gwen in marketing>Spider-Boy or Spider-Kid was somehow not an option for Miles>Spider-Woman or Spider-Girl was somehow not an option for Gwen Marvel can't name for sheeit
>>151611204>Len Wein was paid more for Lucius Fox in the Dark Knight trilogy than he was for Wolverine>Jim Starlin was paid more for KG Beast than for all of his characters like Thanos, Drax, etc. combined.>Jack Kirby was paid more for Darkseid than everything he did for Marvel
>>151600937So she co-created the character with a hugely successful franchise...and gets nothing? Like yeah, she doesn't own Miles or spiderman but she still made the character. Fuck Marvel, fuck Disney
A lot of you have never worked a real job before and it shows lmao
>>151611262Weird how DC flipped from the 80's where after Vertigo and some kino editors coming in after Siegel and Shuster's situation was somewhat rectified became much more amiable and offered better deals while when Shooter left, Marvel slowly got more and more greedy like Shylocks.
>>151604595Well she's a woman and she made a popular black character so yeah theyd rather gobble billionaire dick
>>151611366You’d gladly take a bullet for Alex Soros lol
>>151608325Accepted rules don't always have to be followed exactly, anon. If it works, it works.Recognizing when it works in your favor to bend a few rules here and there is what puts some creatives over others.
>>151600937Dash rite, Miles Morales BELONGS to wyte wmn
>>151611358Shooter that let Mantlo steal BWS story? And Ra's al Ghul was created in '71.
>>151606737Siegel and Shuster worked for DC for a decade and made a lot of money for the time. I’m not saying they didn’t get hosed but either the stories about them being penniless by the 70s are exaggerated or they were spectacularly bad with money. Bear in mind they were paid an additional million dolllar settlement in the 60s.
>>151611600Hang on, from how I remember that story Shooter didn't find out until after that was published. Most of the time Shooter was pretty well on the side of the creators.
>>151611512Eh it looks pretty shoddy there
>>151604937>WHAT DO YOU MEAN I'M NOT ENTITLED TO THE THINGS I CONTRACTUALLY AGREED TO NOT GET?!>Everyone should be outraged on my behalf because they should believe that I deserve more than I was ever told or believed I should or would get!
>>151600937good. fuck that bitch.
>>151611366yeah, that's why. Not for the actual things they're saying, you gigantic lying faggot
>>151611148what does that even mean?other then if you actually had a argument, you would've said it.
>>151611185I notice the "executives" are only involved when the product fails.if it's a success, the "creator" did all that by herself right?Tangentially relaaaaaated
>>151611366>popularHAHAHAHA!
>>151611284she made Spiderman?
I made a palette swap of Spider-Man, give me money forever every time this derivative character appears.
>>151611129If you don't see the problem with a white woman claiming even partial ownership of a black man, then YOU are problematic and your opinions should be largely ignored. Pro-slavery rhetoric is NEVER okay.
>>151600937This is why Marvel is pushing Miles. They don't have to pay his creators nearly as much as they have to pay Peter's.
>>151600937Sounds like she signed a bad contract. Most comic creatives get a 10k check just for offhanded references to something they created.
>create something gay and retarded (literally)>other people salvage it, make him 'part of the family' for Peter and the gang>"wow, I should be given FREE SHIT for this"
>>151615707>Sounds like she signed a bad contract.A Marvel contract
>>151601129Italians are not Jews.
>>151606931It was actually 1500 years ago.>>151608146What are you talking about lmao.>roman empire>DEI for germanicsLmao you nutty dago.
>>151609450It's american standard, that's the problem. It's not like the east where mangaka has full rights
>>151600937Can I as some rando sell costume designs to Marvel? I have an idea for a Spiderman suit.
>>151615565Peter's creators are both dead, they don't have to pay anyone anything anymore.>>151615744Even DC with its more creator-friendly contracts has a stipulation that states they don't owe jack to anyone who creates a derivative character.
how much is Bendis, the white man , getting ?
>>151601247she was the artist
GOOD.he was a mistake before that movie. Still is, but is at least tolerable now
>>151600937Wow...first time I ever heard of a jew that didn't pay attention to their contract.Maybe she's Jewish in name only...
>>151601307He's full black. Hispanic isn't a race. His mom is a black hispanic, his dad is a black american. Learn race and genetics, man. Ethnicity is just how you were raised and what traditions you follow. It's not genetics.
>>151605751South american spotted.
>>151601077Just don't work for those companies.Independent publishing has never been easier.
I remember when hawkeye guy got only 50 dollars for the films
>>151605751Would have preferred arachnid over spin
>>151616611>post an obvious fucking joke. >LERN RACE AND GUHNETICS MANfuck off back to xwittar you fucking sped.
>>151615339When have execs offered anything but money and strings attached?
>>151616611>Ethnicity is just how you were raised and what traditions you followRetarded mutt creature.
>>151600937Kek, why would she?Miles is a cheap knock off repeat of a repeat character.Literally, her and that hack, Bendis, slapped a Spider-Man costume on a nignog and said "Done!"
>>151607007Why would we think White people are jewish, you dumb fuck?She's clearly jewish just from looking at her facial features and her conduct. Anyone claiming she's pure Italian is a mouth-breathing, knuckle-scraping, troglodyte moron.
>>151616966when you want to jerk off creators even though most of them turn out to be hacks as soon as they left to their own devices. If this bitch is so great, why is she bitching about royalties for a half assed knockoff of someone else's character. should've she be rolling in the dough for all her other super successful creations.
>>151606560>She designed the fucking character, we wouldn't have this discussion at all if Sara Pichelli was a man.She put a nigger in a Spider-Man costume, you fucking moron.That is LITERALLY all she did.
>>151617190>because male creators NEVER get fucked over
>>151617215Exactly. Her being a woman is such a non-factor in this discussion.
>>151600937Based, fuck terrones
>>151601245This spider-girl design by Sara was so bad that Dan Slott had to create Maka from the ground up.
>>151617190Bendis is the guy who did that. She's the one who decided "What if Spider-Man was red webs on black instead of black webs on red?" Completely undeserving of any additional compensation.
>>151617463I hate both of them for their involvement in creating such a worthless character that was nothing more than pandering to the freaks and weirdos who didn't even give a shit about comic books.Peter Parker is so intrinsic to Spider-Man that to do away with him completely destroys the point of the character. And people need to realise that Spider-Man is not a mantle.Spider-Man is a persona that Peter created for himself when he was fifteen, as a means of expressing himself and show the world what he could do and later to prove to himself that he could be the man Uncle Ben thought he'd become. Spider-Man is Peter Parker, Peter Parker is Spider-Man. Miguel O'Hara, Miles Morales etc. They're not Spider-Men. They just happen to be people who possess the proportionate abilities of a spider and go around cosplaying as Spider-Man. Miguel's a decent enough alternative to Spider-Man but he's still not Spider-Man. Miles isn't even a great alternative.
>>151616205>white man gets all the credit and moneyYou are not allowed to be politically against this.
>>151617183Creation like that is quality over quantity, you wouldn't know because conservatives only know how to destroy.
>>151617602what the fuck are you even babbling about?
>>151617548Peter Parker is way too boomer for me. I prefer a youthful spiderman in generation Z or gen alpha
>>151617548Spider-Man is a title, like Thor.
>>151618164Oh, you!
>>151600937She did the heavy lifting.
>>151600937>turned spiderman into a nigger>"I deserved to be paid for doing absomutely nothing now"Let me pull out the worldf's smallest violin for her
>>151616205>>151617557Brian Michael Bendis is jewish.
>>151608250Ok she just recolored the spider suit and did jack shit beyond that. Still as much as a hack
>"that's the saddest part of my life"Then you have a pretty good life, woman!I swear, women know only to complain.
>>151601389>Does artists have a special level of narcissistic entitlement?Did you ever hear the Comedy of Darth Penders the Ken?
>>151600937While it's unfortunate that Marvel/DC stuff often ends up like this, I'm not really sure what the alternative would be; the only reason the Marvel/DC universes can exist is because the companies themselves have the full IP rights. If creators had to get royalties for the use of the stuff they introduced to the comics, doing practically anything with the universes at all would become an unworkable mess extremely quickly.
>>151600937"Creator"? They race swapped an existing character, that's not creating shit.
>>151600937Deserved. If anything, she should be paying me reparations for taking part in ruining Spider-man.
>>151605751>The Amazing Spin!>The Spectacular Spin!>Ultimate Spin!
>>151600937Good, because that character stinks
>>151600937How is making a familiar character a stupid ugly color "creating?"Not to mention the costume.
>>151604595>>receive nothingI'm pretty sure she was paid for her work retard
>>151600937She must be terrible at negotiating contracts. Doesn't the Ms. Marvel creator get paid literally every appearance of the character?
>>151600937I don't care. Miles Morales is a terrible character and I'm glad at least one of the people involved in his creation is suffering.
>>151600937Why should I care when Miles is Marvel’s shitty attempt to replace Peter so they don’t have to pay the Ditko Estate?
>>151606605Even then, it’s just a slightly altered version of the Alex Ross/David Williams suit.
>>151600937Good morning I hate women
>>151601389Now you understand why they're butthurt over AI.
>>151621821AI is a divine punishment from God for artists saying annoying shit on twitter.
>Pay someone to design a logo and store front for my new business>It's very well designed and bring in a lot of costumers>/co/ wants me to keep paying the designer for every single costumer that comes into my store now, even though I already payed an agreed upon sum upon delivery
Should the creators of them get royalties too?
>>151600937No grounds to feel sorry for her. She worked for easily the scummiest of the Big 2 and didn't properly protect herself or realize that no character you "create" (what if Spider-Man was black and Latino lol) is not yours and will never be yours. Go cry to a wall, lady.
shes not getting royalties cause she's a foreigner (italian )and cause she's only an artist
>>151604595Yes, that's pretty much it. Problem?
Did she negotiate royalty pay for the work?If not, then tough shit.
>>151622370it's the dream of a lot of deadbeats to do five minutes worth of work and get paid for it forever.
>>151600937I mean, all she did was make spiderman black no? Correct me if i'm wrong it's not like she made an original character or something
>>151600937Why should she deserve any money for creating the character that is constantly trying to kill off and replace Spider-Man?
lol
>>151624692Man, I fucking hate the scumbag internet "news." Twisting everything into a new controversy.
>>151601130Why can DC pay royalties to creators who come up with things that they use in adaptations but Marvel can't?
>>151601143Lee got a lifetime cut of royalties from everything Marvel did and he had to go to court with Marvel in the 2000s over it after Ike tried to jew him out of it.
>>151625393Paul Levitz made that happen. Shooter tried to make it happen at Marvel as well, but it didn't take, the guys above him didn't like it. Additionally, DC does not pay royalties for derivative characters, a few creators over the years have bitched about that.
>>151601389>Does artists haveFuck off ESL She co-created the character, she's entitled to a cut from his usage in other media same as Bendis would be. Again, this isn't hard because DC has always been good about this. How is it not ridiculous that Starlin saw more money from KGBeast having a small appearance in BvS than he did from Thanos being the centerpiece of two billion dollar movies? Or Len Wein getting more from Lucius Fox appearing in the Nolan films than all the media and merchandise Wolverine has appeared in? The fact DC is able to do this but Marvel isn't basically underlines the point that Marvel is incredibly cheap and stingy and that's always been the case, be it royalties or general pay as their rates have always been way less than what DC offered. Usually people, especially artists, were taking a pay cut to work for Marvel.
>>151600937>>151601247>>151601249>With jews you lose
>>151625416The best part is that he managed to negotiate both a lifetime cut for himself and his wife a part in the 90s Spider-man show as Madame Web
>>151625439DC still pays good royalties and even prior to Levitz their page rates were way higher. Marvel has just always been a really cheap company except maybe during the '90s when some guys like Lobdell were making a shitload of money writing/drawing the top books.
>>151608265>Stan Lee's spidermanOh, my sweet summer child. If you really believe that then ask yourself a question. Why did stan lee stop making characters and stories as soon as ditko and Kirby left marvel?
>>151624692She should sue.
>>151625595Lee remained Marvel's EiC for a couple of years after Kirby left and he wrote a lot of comics with other notable artists such as John Romita, John Buscema, and Gene Colan.
>another thread in which /co/ sides with a corporation You faggots are gaping.
>>151627436Why would anyone side with the person who has no case, and isn't even mad about it anyway?
