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does he have the potiental to be better than sonic?
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He needs the potential to be in a better show
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>>151604631
Better? Maybe
More popular? Never
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>>151604631
There are very few things in the world that are worse than Basednic.
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>>151604642
Shit on what's his name all you want but blood dragon was an entertaining show.
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>>151604655
Remove Bullfrog and Rayman and it becomes a sloppy shitfest.
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Isn't that a question for /v/?
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>>151604631
Ah yes, he who was far more interesting than the MC and his evil ex-boyfriend back there. Him and the Assassin's Creed frog.
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>>151604655
indeed
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>>151604667
rayman is on netflix so it counts as both
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Pitch his game.
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>>151604696
>Pitch his game.
Assassin's Creed frog. That.
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>>151604631
Rayman's games have a significantly better track record than Sonic's. Almost all of them are good if you ignore the Rabbids tumor (and even then their crossover with Mario is better than it has any right to be).
Funny how Ubisoft persistently neglects their most consistently good franchise because they can't stop chasing the latest trends. Rayman genuinely deserves better.
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I want another season of Captain Lazerhawk, but only focusing on Rayman and Bullfrong
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>>151604631
At this point, no
If the series creator had like 5 more Rayman 2's in him back in the day then yes.
At least we got Beyond Good and Evil from him.
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>>151604631
The only way to improve this shit is keeping Rayman, Bullfrog and Jade, remove everything else, and make Bullfrog licks Jade's butthole.
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>>151604631
>does he have the potiental
Why are you talking like this character didn't peak 20 years ago.
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>>151604631
He needs to have his cast solidified.

You generally know what to expect when you play a Sonic game. You know who his archenemy is, who his friends are, and generally how the game will go.

Almost every Rayman game is wildly different, and his cast is shaken up each time.

This is how I'd do a Rayman cast going forward.
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>>151605752
If the thiccums Nymphs were in the series from the start it would've outsold Sonic a hundred times over.
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>>151604631
No he was overshadowed and kicked to the curb by a bunch of screaming rabbits
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>>151604631
Better? That wouldn't be difficult considering how awful Sonic is.

More popular? No way. They spent the last 30 years fine-tuning the Sonic IP to be as appealing to autistic people as possible. I don't think anything could beat that, not something that already exists anyway.
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>>151605873
>I don't think anything could beat that, not something that already exists anyway.
Horseshow kind of did it, but Hasbro mismanaged that IP after G5 ended.
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Not really, no.
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>>151604631
i love rayman's characters and world but i do not like any of his games except maybe rayman 1 for the visuals alone. i don't think rayman even in his heyday was anything beyond the tertiary option for a platformer to spend your money on, i don't see why nowadays he is treated as some forgotten elder god of the genre
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>>151604674
The fact that this isn't enough to make me want to watch the show says something.
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Personally, I already like Rayman more than Sonic. Genuinely think Rayman deserves better.

Will he ever actually be more popular than Sonic? Definitely not. But I love his world and characters and most of his games (don’t really care for the first one that much), I’m down for whatever they want to throw my way.
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I fucking like Rayman but if this thread stays up but not the Rampage thread that got deleted 2 days ago, I'm gonna be a bit steamed.
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Rayman isn't enough of a autism magnet
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>>151608270
Rayman DID have a cartoon. A bad one, but it’s still technically /co/ related.

Did he have a comic of any kind? I don’t remember.
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>>151604631
As a bigger fan of Sonic, Rayman Legends alone already clears most 2D Sonic games in terms of overal quality.
Rayman himself is just an ugly, unappealing character to most people (this does not include me, I like him). He's a weird looking "thing" with a huge nose and strange floating body parts. Sonic has a cool, appealing, more distinct design, which is pretty much the sole reason he's survived as long as he has.
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>>151608270
what about the 3 benten shotabait threads roaming out there?
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>>151608323
i feel this is why he eventually got replaced by those rabbits...
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>>151604655
Nah the show was shit, the only good parts was Rayman doing coke and eating off the anthro girls ass and shooting "them".
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>>151609009
Speak English you fucking dork
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>>151609009
Eh I dunno. My point was that the rampage thread shouldn't have been deleted for being /v/-related since just having one thread that crosses over with another board is ok in my book because it is I think ok. It's not like /v/ would have taken over the board. But I dunno maybe not since /v/ is more lax and will have many more crossover threads because it's agreed /v/ being sfw /b/ and imo the beating heart of 4chan alongside /a/ is ok in my book.
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>>151611124
pretty much the only things most people remember about the show anyways.
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>>151605752
>All this female character presence
If Rayman gets a show that's actually dedicated to him and his world, his portrayal must not be, under any circumstance, another buffoonish male who's made obsolete by his more competent female peers and the more female characters there are, the more likely this will happen. With the sole exception of Origins/Legends, Rayman is consistently portrayed as kind, goofy on occasion but still a capable hero, and isn't prone to getting irritated with people from time to time. He should not be a helpless, ADHD retard. Globox can take on that role as shown by Hoodlum Havoc but even in that case, he should still have moments of brilliance. Think early season Spongebob and Patrick.

Betilla and Ly are fine as main cast members. The nymphs (not sure why Voodoo Mama isn't included there) however should only get a few occasional appearances and not overstay their welcome. Barbara being a main character however is outright asking for trouble but I wouldn't be opposed to her making her debut in some other later season and leaving on a Viking ship right after.
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he was too good for this show...
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>>151605851
BWAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!
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>>151605752
I always used to think Admiral Razorbeard was his Archenemy cause of how major Rayman 2 was, it ending with him getting away and him reappearing in the GBA port of Rayman 3.
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>>151604696
>>151612981
I miss my husband
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>>151612981
>>151614960
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>>151605752
Betilla isn't Rayman's mom, the first thing they do after Rayman is summoned is flirt with each other.
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>>151604631
he does not do momentum based platforming so no.
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>>151611450
Having a female presence doesn't mean Rayman needs to be a buffoon, Anon.

I picture Barbara as someone who barrels into action without thinking, and she may wreck some shit, but in general causes as many problems as she solves by being so reckless.

I do like the idea of Rayman and Globox as a more action oriented Spongebob and Patrick, though.
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Sonic is getting lapped by Bubsy, if basically anything Rayman-related comes out he could pull ahead
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>>151604631
His gameplay style is easier to develop.
Sonic's speed focus makes him untraditional, so standard tested platforming design may not apply for him.
Rayman doesn't have that issue
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>>151617158
Now I have the mental image of Barbara being the Leela to Rayman's Fry and Globox's Bender and I'm down with that.
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>>151604655
No one talked about anything in this show except Rayman and his story was dogshit.
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>>151604631
All I'd game is that Betilla is in it with her origins design
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>>151604631
No
>>151604655
>Use the name of a well-received DLC for a video game series that is now a hollow shell for a show that is basically "remember these franchises? We own them and this is what we can do to them," has nothing to do with the DLC itself, and is basically "we faggots must resist Trump/Putin/Le Pen/AfD/Rightoid Corp.: the series"
>Ultimately the show does nothing to save the company from filing from bankruptcy and having to become another piece to a Chinese conglomerate.
>>151612981>>151614960>>151615849 >Parisian Jewish degenerate
euck!
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>>151617928
Perfect. No notes.
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>>151611450
>(not sure why Voodoo Mama isn't included there)
I put her under "pals". She seems a bit younger than the other Nymphs, so she doesn't fill the same Hot Mom/Aunt role, and there's a lot of official art of her hanging out/flirting with Rayman, so she feels more like someone who'd be pals with Rayman and get into shenanigans with him rather than someone focusing on keeping the glade of dreams intact.

I figure Betilla and the other nymphs don't show up ALL the time, but when they do they're generally Rayman's doting family who love their limbless baby boy.
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>>151608270
>>151611280
ALL OFF TOPIC THREADS MUST FUCKING DIE
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>>151604655
It was Bobbypills' worst show and that company has like at least three shows where someone eats actual shit on screen. All thanks to the power of Adi Shankar
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>>151617103
You'll have to come to terms with the idea that Rayman wants to fuck his mom
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>>151604631
All I know about rayman is that the faries are cute as hell
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>>151604631
Not with current ubisoft. They metooed his people and broke up his dev team, and are riding the company straight to hell.
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>>151611280
>crosses over with another board is ok in my book because it is I think ok
>It's okay because I think it's okay
Retard
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It's crazy how Ubisoft dropped both the best Rayman game ever made as well as one of the best side-scrolling platformers of all time and then just decided to go back to making generic slop for developmentally disabled millenials until today.
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>>151620673
Origins and Legends were greenlit to placate Michel Ancel after he threatened to quit over the rabbids upstaging Rayman. They lost all drive to make further Rayman games once BGE2 could fulfill the same purpose and then once Ancel had to retire.
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>>151620673
The recent 2D Prince of Persia games were also really good. Ubisoft is somehow competent at making 2D sides rollers but they really can't make anything else to save their fucking lives
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Literally the only things I know about Rayman is that he doesn't have any arms and he hangs out with curvy fairies. What else is there?
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Rayman has always had potential. Easily memorable character designs, cute fairy tale world that doesn't feel derivative, willing to play with edgy humor, Ahh the French, and those bunny things were the Minions exactly and came first. You could make Rayman awesome and successful if you wanted to, but all he gets are some okay video games once a decade. Nobody seems very inspired to work on him.
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>>151611450
>his portrayal must not be, under any circumstance, another buffoonish male who's made obsolete by his more competent female peers
You're coming at this from an american writing angle, but Rayman is european. A show that is faithful to the games would have Rayman and Globox in an Asterix & Obelix dynamic, with Rayman being the competent one.
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>>151620873
his dick is disconnected too so all the nymphs swap it between themselves, he's constantly cumming
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>>151622079
explains his constant shit-eating grin tbqh
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>>151620971
>Nobody seems very inspired to work
Ubisoft should make this their motto...
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>>151604655
For like two episodes maybe
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>>151622964
indeed
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>>151604655
>Member berries the show
I don't give a fuck about Ubisoft ips
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>>151620673
Largely had to do with the fact that legends was a flop, which in part was on them
>game is announced as a WiiU exclusive set to release in february
>holidays come and go, turns out the WiiU is selling horribly
>ubisoft panics and delays the game to turn it into a multiplat despite it already going gold. All nintendo gets is an exclusive demo as recompense
>game finally comes out later that year
>…on the same day as fucking GTAV
>surprise surprise, no one on xbox or playstation is interested
>game bombs as a result
>”welp, guess no one likes rayman anymore”
>>151620861
Doesn’t matter now given that game flopped as well and they shut down the studio
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le frog
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>>151620971
a 3rd rayman movie isnt really a retarded idea if you think about it, i found a cheap rayman disc randomly on a thrift store and i didnt know anything about him, i was immediately invested on his lore, maybe oneday will he get the attention he deserves and becomes the trio of the legends..heh i wish..
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>>151604631
sure why not
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>>151605851
Thankfully Mario made Rabbids more likeable (and fuckable) to soften the blow. Even gave Rayman a piece of the screentime pie at the end.
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>>151620673
It's not crazy at all from a business angle. It's actually incredible how many people still pay full price for Ubisoft's generic open world slop.
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>>151626858
>game was considered a flop (by ubisoft’s standards)
>all the devs quit
Is there anyone good still left at that god-forsaken company?
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>>151623732
Rayman could have very likely ended up in Smash Bros had it not been for the Legends fiasco leading to Ubisoft stabbing them in the back.
Remember what they took from you.
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>>151628417
Rayman only got a trophy because Nintendo published Legends in Japan dumbass
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>>151628464
And? Characters like Snake and Sora are dominantly Playstation characters, but one or two Nintendo games means they're eligible for the roster?
I said likely, not guaranteed.
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>>151604631
Stay on twitter or /v/, shroommeister. Alternatively killing yourself is good.
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>>151628531
Who the fuck is that
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>>151628495
Don't forget Cloud, Sephiroth, Kazuya, and Joker, none of which had any presence on nintendo consoles prior to their inclusion in smash. I'd say Rayman would've had as much chance as they did for being a DLC character had things gone different.
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>>151628557
OP regularly throws a fit on /a/ that no one wants to talk about Detective Conan/Case Closed, to the point that he makes both Conan threads and "Conan hate" threads just to get responses about something he's interested in. This kind of behavior is all you really need to know about him, but there's a lot else.
>adult swim autism, most adult swim topics are him and his obsessions about toonami, lupin, case closed, metalocalypse, smiling friends, mike lazzo, etc
>fox cartoon autism like dunanville and bob's burgers waifufagging
>off-topic family guy, dragon ball and simpsons threads
>various phoneposting OPs on both /co/ and /a/ that are easy to notice either by terminology he uses or just filenames, almost none of them having any value of discussion or interest
>cope, seethe, Xbros posting (archivalbros where we at???)
>western vs eastern threads like the Demon Slayer threads here
>latin american shit
>e-celeb twitter drama just like the mr enter worst animated 2010s series off-topic braindead spam threads here
>shroommeister
Shits up /a/, /co/ and toonami generals of /co/. Is a /v/ fag too. Occasionally posts the exact same shit he tweets. He probably has various accounts like he does on reddit though. The biggest samefag of /co/.
More stuff is on the /a/ side but you're bound to deal with him in some way at least 10 times a week even if you don't know it.
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>>151623732
>welp, I guess no one likes [blank] anymore
One of the most blood-boiling sentences in the English language.
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>>151612981
>>151614960
women do be loving this frog
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>>151605851
These shits got a TV series for some reason.
I remember nothing about it except that there was a mad scientist one and some psycho granny who attempts to murder their entire species
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>>151628495
>>151628581
That's not how the roster was chosen retard
Nobody is owed a character for having a history on a Nintendo platform
Even if Ubisoft didn't do the Legends fiasco, Rayman still wouldn't have made it on the roster for a myriad of reasons
He wouldn't have taken priority over other third parties, Sakurai isn't obligated to pick him (he was given a list for Ultimate's DLC), etc
The Legends shit didn't even harm Ubisoft's relationship with Nintendo since they did later collaborations like Star Link having Star Fox characters or Mario + Rabbids
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>>151628622
i'm a man, and i like Bullfrog a lot, but i want this frog impregnates Jade.
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>>151628682
>Nobody is owed a character
>Sakurai isn't obligated to pick him
Where the fuck is this female-centric, anti-male passive aggressiveness coming from? The blame is being solely put onto Ubisoft for being conniving business parters, treating their teams like shit, and sabotaging beloved IPs so put your fucking katana down, the multibillion dollar company that is Nintendo is actually being left alone here for once.
>Star Link having Star Fox characters or Mario + Rabbids
Not only were those post-2017 Switch era games but Smash 4 was back in 2014, around the time the Wii U could have used a boost in sales thanks to Rayman Legends getting an opportunity to have the spotlight as an exclusive unimpeded by Ubisoft's sliminess and having to compete with GTA down the road. You think Ubisoft leaving Nintendo high and dry played no part in Rayman's chances despite Ubisoft not only going above and beyond to give Sakurai a 3D model instead of the 2D drawing reference expected but also for the fact that half of Rayman's moveset in Origins/Legends was practically tailor-made Smash bait?
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>>151628984
>but Smash 4 was back in 2014, around the time the Wii U could have used a boost in sales thanks to Rayman Legends getting an opportunity to have the spotlight as an exclusive
The base roster was already finalized at that point
> You think Ubisoft leaving Nintendo high and dry played no part in Rayman's chances despite Ubisoft not only going above and beyond to give Sakurai a 3D model instead of the 2D drawing reference expected but also for the fact that half of Rayman's moveset in Origins/Legends was practically tailor-made Smash bait?
The model was for the fucking trophy
Fucking Suda51 actually knows Sakurai personally as a friend and has tried to get Travis Touchdown in Smash and yet Sakurai turns him down
Having a moveset be "Smash bait" means jack fucking shit
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>>151628984
>and beyond to give Sakurai a 3D model instead of the 2D drawing reference
It's a combination of courtesy, expectations, and possibly misunderstanding
Rayman was NEVER on the table
Sakurai already hates dealing with the language barrier
He's been vocal on that and that getting Banjo-Kazooie and Steve in Ultimate made him nervous since he wants to be as communicative as possible to the developers of their games like with every other third party on the roster
Rayman is also very unpopular in Japan, even among westaboos
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>>151629120
Man, Rayman is probably my most wanted Smash Bros newcomer. I mean, aside from Guybrush Threepwood, who's even LESS likely, by far.

I do hope Rayman happens someday.
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>>151604674
>>151611124
I agree this was the only good part
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>>151627471
>get sequels and shittons of DLC
>flop
I'm starting to think vidya companies just declare everything a failure for accounting purposes
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>>151628640
Rayman got a TV series too. An utterly baffling, alienating show.
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>>151608323
Those fucking slutty looking female characters are a source of autism and cooperation fuel. Plus the rabbitz
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>>151604674
>feet instead of hooves
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>>151628602
im only a /co/ fag, eat up your schizo pills thats someone else
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>>151617928
You're not the only one who thought that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NZSq5PBsSM
In this case Leela is Betilla.
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>>151621812
>A show that is faithful to the games
Not even the games were faithful to the games
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>>151634305

Bluey fans have no right to speak 90 percent of them that aren’t parents are retarded shills who have no taste, wear diapers and have weird fetishes.
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>>151604631
>better than sonic
That is a very low bar
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>>151604631
i shudder to think of the weird as fuck deviantart fetishslop we'd get if rayman was more popular than sonic
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>>151617103
She made him alone, by herself, in the Glade of Dreams specifically to protect it. She Frankensteined him into existence using the power of the Lums - but there weren't enough Lums, so he's got a head, body, hands, and feet, but no neck, arms, or legs.
And what does he do when he's born?
Blow up his mom's skirt.
And. She. Liked. It.
Rayman wants to fuck his mom and she's kinda into it.
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Kino
https://youtu.be/ZWNKKf1zGm8?si=hAes8ZpbzQhuUnZB
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>>151636195
poor poohbear...
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If they made a proper cartoon they'd probably retcon his origins or change how Betilla looked.
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>>151635803
Reminder that no matter much it might upset you that Sonic is doing better as a franchise then Halo, Assassin's Creed or insert your fave cartoony platformer not from Nintendo like Spyro and Crash who are dead again



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