I love this rapist moth, fellas.
why
I wanted to hate him but he is just too retarded
>>151618294Because Viv clearly does too. He gets all the best jokes!
>>151618473>THE JOKE IS SEX!!no
He from Florida
>>151618190What does his skeleton look like?
>>151618473>He is a fucking cuckAllright I'm out
Just finished this drawing.
>>151619148That was the best joke all season
vox just has trashy tv slop, what were alastor's radio shows like? did he have segments and host interviews or something? in the stayed gone bit we see him basically give opinion pieces on vox and this was treated as a "return to form", so presumably he does do actual radio shows
>>151620481i honestly like all their human designs so far, glad to see vox is hot as human too
>>151618190I have a bootleg valentino plushie somewhere that ill try to post later if i can find him>>151620040You should draw porn
There is no rape in hell faggot its consensual, fuck off
>>151620983Theres no rape in marriage either then. I can fuck my wife whenever i want
>>151620998Duhh
>>151620969Sir Pentious is still the hottest human
I like him even though he reminds me of my ex. I don’t know what that says about me or my ex.
>>151620481Who names their kid Alastor?
>>151622108Are you hot? I dont care if youre a man or woman but are you hot?
>>151618190The drawing tutorial won me over, I wish the Hotel Crew had as much chemistry as the Vees did in that.
>>151621916Truly. Disappointed he doesn't get to kept it.
>>151622420>The drawing tutorial won me overWhat drawing tutorial?
>>151622420I think the show would be 10 times better if there were 5 more eps per season where characters could just socialize with each other and act like they actually are in sitcom. That one video of Vees did more to show the depth of their bond than the entire season 1 did for main cast.
>>151622481Agreed, theres too much plot and lore and not enough episodic comedy and fun
>>151622439This onehttps://youtu.be/-3IbZNiWPjQ>>151622481The old VAs knewhttps://youtu.be/me0XrTTM_3sDoes Alastor even tell "old timey puns" in the actual show?
Your tranny show ended with a care bear stare. You are just as bad as fans of unnamed pony show, but at least that doesn't think it's not for toddlers just because they swear.
>>151622365I am 5’2” and shaped like a minifridge which does not equal conventionally attractive no matter how you slice it.
>>151622735>>151622762Seething christcuck has entered the thread. Threads over everybody
>>151622799Are you a girl? Because im into thicc short chicks
>>151622726You talk like this shit being basically TrollsTopia for grown-ups isn’t part of the appeal.
>>151622812No and I am happily taken and even if I wasn’t I am not using this place for dating.
>>151622800Not him, but nobody mentioned religion but you yet. Your projection is showing.
>>151622836The first meme presented the Christian view of Hell as fact and the second was critical of the idea of being critical of Christianity.
>>151622825>>151622812>>151622799>>151622365>>151622108What the fuck is this shit? For the love of G-d, bring back the racists. /co/ really is overrun with faggotry.
>>151622858That's not the Christian view of hell. It's the pop view of hell. As for the second what the fuck are you talking about? Don't actually answer we don't care. You are just as bad as any pol-tard, but at least they can back up their blind hatred.
>>151622869Your refusal to take the Lord’s name in vain made me giggle.
>>151622903>Your refusal to take the Lord’s name in vain made me giggle.Funny, guess how I view your holy word of Nigger.
>>151622913Nta but fuck jesus, fuck god, and fuck niggersI wont the edginess competition
>>151622929Not yet you didn't. Tell us how you feel about Mods and Jannies.
>>151622938I tried finding the "he does it for free" song on YT but i think it got scrubbed from the internet
>>151622439https://youtu.be/KjPHUNaaxrk?si=_jHA2C7nslBTygoFThese short minutes justified a Vees spinoff for they have great chemistry together.
>>151619716Vox is the cuck, why do you think he hates Angel so much?
>>151618190I hope s3 is written better this dogshit season was literal fucking filler
>>151622167Branded players. So they can normal summon Alastor in real life.
>>151623841The vees were one of the highlights of season 2 for sure. Im wondering how their dynamic will change in season 3 now that Vox is not only no longer an asset but a liability. And Val got all the credit for saving hell. He'll probably be getting too big for his britches next season.
>Fuck, that's the longest I've ever edgedLol'd.>Daaaamn papi>NOLol'd again.
>>151623948S3 will be a stuffed turkey.
>>151624150I believe in you too much to ever accept you would be that fucking retarded to laugh out loud at that. Have faith in yourself anon, there's no reason to be this negative.
>>151623948>Creator confirmed it's the Morningstar family drama seasonIt's gonna be pic related but with Lilith joining in.
>>151624274Okay, I didn't literally laugh out loud but I still thought those moments were funny. Valentino got a lot of funny moments this season.
My only issue with this show is how it is essentially a kids show that is marketed as adult animation. Also Velvette needs more scenes
>>151622726Actually a majority of the songs in S2 had 0 swear words. Amazon probably looked at the numbers and realized that theatre kid (emphasis on “kid”) friendly songs in S1 outperformed the cuss heavy songs.
>>151624367Hmm… I wonder why.
>>151622726That’s a massive over simplification. It wasn’t friendship that saved the day. They all just worked together to avoid mutually assured destruction.
Dammit. Cain is Zestial.The new cards have him and Abel do a similar pose but from different angles to make it more obvious that Zestial is supposed to look like a demonized Exorcist form.
It starts with Sorry.Sorry you're such a faggot anon, holy shit.
>>151622869In a Hazbin Blasphemy Hotel thread and unable to say the lord’s name in vain… kek
>>151624150I laughed at Val saying damn papi first time this show was realistic in a while people in Hell would get turned on by someone trying to commit murdersuicide
>>151624576That would explain his apathy towards most things, he's been around the block longer than the majority of the cast.
>>151624312lmao
>>151622726>>151624477>SAVE US FROM HARM>LAY DOWN OUR ARMS>JUST FOR A DAY>PUT WAR AWAYI don't care what anyone says, it's a great trope.
>>151624367I think it depends on your definition of swear words. Like "when we get up there" has the word "slut" in it but I dunno if you'd call that a swear. Though your mom might pop you in the mouth for saying it.
>charlie almost dies to adam, vaggie can't save her either and they need lucifer to save the day>charlie can't just bop vox really hard and break all his bones, she needs alastor to save the day for her>vaggie tries freeing lucifer and can't do shit eitheryou know for a female-led show as this the female leads sure are fucking useless
>>151626476Hazbin Hotel is just a slightly more overtly gay shonen manga>useless female characters>jobbers everywhere>nonsensical plot>inconsistent power system
>>151618190MF is a Grim Tales oc.
>>151624122Honestly that's the thing that intrigues me the most about the rest of the show. Those three assholes and especially Vox really grew on me this season. I hope he gets an improvement of sorts - be it full-on redemption or just getting over Alastor and realising how much others actually mean to him. but it would be very intriguing to maybe see the tables turn and Valentino treat him like shit this time...
>>151626476It's hilarious how Vaggie's entire participation in the final episode was to scratch the cannon with her spear like a caveman and then lose to Lute. She literally didn't think to cut the cables until Carmilla told her to do so.
>>151626668Vaggie literally does not have a soul. She’s some kind of heavenly automaton. Makes sense that she is clueless most of the time.
>>151626668Vaggie may have more common sense than Charlie, but she's still kind of retarded. Carmilla also had to tell her that she could be hurt, despite having already been hurt. Exorcists probably really are barely smarter than cavemen.
Honestly, the hotel staff should pray that Lilith doesn't end up being evil and is intelligent, because otherwise they'll be screwed when Alastor finally becomes the villain, seeing as he seems to be the only one in the hotel who uses his brain.
Who's looking forward to Agenda Hotel in S3?
>>151626950Sera made them and Lute subhuman in purpose and is afraid to get exposed for it.
>>151623841Based.
Hello /co/, I got the Blu-ray a few days early, so I uploaded the commentary tracks to the internet archive if any of you are interested:https://archive.org/details/episode-1_202512(Note: All of the episodes are in order, it's just that the Internet Archive reads the metadata and not the file name.)
>>151622555>>151623841Hazbin is kind of the perfect show to get 5 minutes low stakes shorts like Helluva has.
>>151618190Do you think he made Angel massage his feet?
>>151627756Thank you anon
>>151626668Exorcist are the indians of angels
>>151627797Probably.
I want Val to sit on me.
Honestly, I don't understand why Vivz made Charlie the protagonist. The whole thing about the hotel barely comes across, and it's obvious that she prefers to write male characters.
>>151622735There's no music, THERE'S ONLY FIRE!
Wouldn't it have made more sense for Vox to be the season 1 villain and Adam be season 2? Vox starts out securing his hold on the sinners of Hell to the point where he markets himself as the one who will finally stop the exterminations, while Charlie tries desperately to sell her idea of redemption rather than fighting Heaven. Vox pretty much takes down the cast and appears to be unstoppable only to be one shotted by Adam, really showcasing how powerful Heaven really is.
>>151628434>Wouldn't it have made more sense for Vox to be the season 1 villain and Adam be season 2?Yeah but Viv said they didn't know they were getting a season until they were like halfway through season 1's production.
>>151628434I think of it like one piece. Where they like to show that the marines suck and are corrupt but then pull back to pirates to remind you "this shit isn't black and white. Pirates suck too". You establish Adam as the bad guy so you as an audience go "oh so it's heaven vs. hell." and then you show Vox as a villain so you go "oh wait no, it's a bit more nuanced than that."
>>151618788>THE JOKE IS SEX!!But enough about Angel Dust.
>>151628452>>151628460Ah okay, I just thought that Adam should have come across as a bigger deal. Kind of hoping he comes back in season 3.
>>151619716Alastor is the one that watched.
>>151628511Alastor literally couldn't care less, and you know full well that Vox was undoubtedly watching him the entire time to see if he would react in any way.
>>151624827The fact that Val thought that giant death laser was ugly as hell that he took it out by punching Vox’s nerd assistant.It took Vox riding it like a mechanical bull while screaming like a madman while shooting lasers for Val to come around.
>>151627756Cool.
>There are no nazis or pedophiles in Hell because Adam killed them allMY HERO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>151628491Eve is the main bitch of season 3. So have fun with her, Cain, Abel, Lute, and grieving Carmilla.
>>151628558Alastor cared but not because Vox was fucking someone else but because he was disgusted by the whole thing. If he didn’t hate Vox before he would after that.
Adam?
>>151628708shouldn't hell have been full of nazis and paedophiles before a few years ago then?
>>151628732He cares for Vaggie’s safety. And Eve is luring Lute to kill her.
>>151627780I wouldn't mind them doing more stuff similar to the drawing tutorial vid because the main show doesn't have enough time for the main cast to chill or actually engage with the hotel.>>151628335Viv a fujo she can't help it.
>>151628763The better question is that shouldn't hell be filled with chinese, indians, and others that had non christian beliefs from the past 2000+ yearsThat's at least 5 billion minimum
>>151628708>no pedophiles
>>151628835Holy shit… Nonce Vox is everything to me…
>>151628732>>151628783>Eve is present in every eye>Adam lurks in the background and reactsWhat tragedy is he expecting?
>>151628890It's peak
>>151628987I don’t know why Valentino wouldn’t unless he just finds kids gross…
>>151628835>>151628987Val may be pro rape but he’s anti loli! What a guy!
>>151628708Adam is the GREATEST! he should genocide ALL filthy sinners!!! Redemption is not possible, Pentious was an exception and a false prophet because Speaker of God, Sera, and Emily wanted to molest him. Adam would never stand for this nonsense, he would offer up Abel to soothe these horny birdgirls!
>>151629602>he would offer up Abel to soothe these horny birdgirls!No he wouldn’t.
>>151629628Did your Adam tulpa tell you that, Lute?
>>151629658That’s what Adam advised Abel to avoid being a manwhore to angels and pretending it’s awesome. He also instructed to eat when he’s sad.
>>151628335Eh even Viv preferring the male characters doesn't save them from her sloppy and unfocused writing. Charlie is her self insert and she's said many times that Lucifer is her favorite yet she fumbled them and their relationship this season without even meaning to. The other members of her team are more influential and it shows in what gets actual development and care. See: Vox who has at least one major team member obsessed with him.
>>151629772I consider everyone being retards a consequence of Viv needing to make Alastor and Vox look smart.A midwit amongst retards is a genius, after all.
>>151618190Me too. Male sluts are always good but I am honestly surprised seeing him end up being the most rational part of the Vees.
>>151620481I swear Alastor must have the same fanbase as Starscream
>>151628763pedophile hunters committed some sins so they could continue to bully the chomos for the rest of eternity for youtube content.
>>151629772If Lucifer is her favorite then she must have had some issues to work out to treat him like thisSeriously he did even less than last season and is the reason the finale even happens
>>151624576>Cain is Zestial.no he's bigfoot
>>151630767I think someone even counted Lucifer's screen time, and it actually turned out that he appeared less than in the first season.
>>151620481I imagine whenever he's not hosting it he just plays swing, country music, jazz and blues in between playing the screams of God knows how many Overlords he's dethroned.
Reminder:
>>151630931Sexy beast...
>>151630864And during that time all he acted like is a wacky and weird dad while his VA did basically improve for his lines You would think he'd have a moment with sera when she came down and clearly saw him
Lucifer was a MASSIVE disappointment this season.I don't think he actually gives a fuck about Charlie's dreams at all.I don't think he gives a fuck about anything except his daughterwife.But then, he did actually say that in their song together, so I guess this is who he was all along.>"Now you're the only thing worth fighting for..."
>>151631002I honestly believe that Vivz's fondness for Lucifer is only to see him as a pathetic twink. I would say it's also because of his yaoi ship with Alastor, but even that barely appeared in the season. With everything else, it doesn't seem like Vivz wants to give Lucifer even the slightest bit of depth.>She doesn't have Lucifer interact with any of the angels >She doesn't have Lucifer develop any kind of friendship with Vaggie because they are both fallen angels>She doesn't have him react in any way when he discovers that redemption is possible
>>Charlie's dreams*Formerly his btw, which makes THIS>>She doesn't have him react in any way when he discovers that redemption is possibleExtremely jarring
>>151623841He talks exactly like my gay allotment garden neighbour.>easiest to draw characterHe's just easy because he draws him the most I bet he's secretly selling porn doujinshi.
>>151631099It's weird because this story wouldn't be possible without himHe also claims to be doing more than Alastor for the hotel but we don't see that, unless him repairing the holes in the wall cherry makes counts
Are HH threads back to normal(as much as they can be) or are the threads still high off the dust of this recent season?
>>151631263I guess it's normal
Honestly, I'm not even sure Lucifer is still one of Vivz's favorites. Not only did she treat him horribly throughout the season, but she even defended Charlie's lack of concern for him at the end of the season, saying that Lucifer was just tired from having his energy used up for the cannon, even though you can literally see his blood staining his clothes and he's about to pass out.
>>151618190I love how the show presents him in two distinct different ways. When Angel Dust is in the scene, Val is the menacing abusive rapist pimp he is, and presented as intimidating. Then when it’s just him and the other Vees he’s a goofy ass funny himbo, to the point you forget the whole rapist part. Then you have him lamenting his bf not paying attention to him and worry if this is going to break up the group when he’s alone, it all just really humanizes him instead of making him a one note villain.
>>151618190Why is he immune to Vox's hypnosis though?
>>151631303It was amusing to see how her damage control only made her look worse.
>>151631263wait what was it like i wasn’t on here at all
>>151631325Because Val's from Florida.
>>151631338Is that really her?Wow, she comes off like an annoying and stupid fat bitch.
>>151631365It took you this long?
>>151631325Because Val's eyes are shit so the swirls aren't straight
>>151631338This show just really needs two more episode per season. Why does every season have to consist of 8 episodes nowadays?
>>151631338>>151631365Viv’s desperate need to immediately go on Twitter to refute anyone will always be a laugh. I still remember how she had to go on and clarify how Satan’s claim of ruling Hell before Lucifer fell was just him lying, despite how that would have actually been an interesting piece of worldbuilding.
>>151631428Where do anons have this from? I legit cannot remember if it was said in the show or if it's moth related biology.
>>151631510Angel said it when coming back with Husk in season 1
>>151618190I LOOOOOVE RAPE!But I can't do it, because then I'll go to prison.But it's SOOOOOO GOOD!
Are Radioapplefags watching a different series? I just don't understand the ship at all. They make up a bunch of stuff about how Alastor will be Lucifer's executioner or how he will comfort him when Lilith turns out to be evil, but in the canon, Alastor hates Lucifer and would literally laugh at any misfortune that befell him.
>>151622800Nah this is where the thread goes funny af
>>151631752Fan is short for "fanatic" and now it should make sense to you. There are those who really enjoy the show, and then there are diseased lunatics who push their delusiinal head canon as objectively obvious facts.
>>151631303She literally just said he's her favorite again today. I think those posts were just her being defensive of her writing. She realizes people calling out the odd lack of payoff to the buildup with Lucifer and Charlie have a point. But it's easier for her to paint it all as people being misogynist and too sensitive about Lucifer than admit it was a bad writing call.The reason his story is a mess this season is because this season seems to be a Frankenstein monster that wasn't originally meant to exist as it does. Viv even talked about how they had to awkwardly back off of the Lilith reveal they set up in season 1 because of it, as we see in episode 2. All of Lucifer's storyline and lore is in season 3 now and I don't think they knew how to handle him this season when that lore was off limits. Their solution apparently was to give one reveal about him and then not let him react with any real gravity to anything else.
>>151631914I like talking about theories with others because I treat series as puzzles to solve. Shipper guys don’t care about the story or the characters, just the ship.
>>151631752Depends on the fans. The Alastor fags I see on twitter (mostly Asians) and /co/ are fine, but there is also the tumblr part of the fandom that believes he was a traumatized wimp and an innocent soul.
>>151631934This season feels more like Vivziepop wanted to give Vox grand spotlight and Lute a lot more set-up and dynamics before doing anything with Lilith. Since she had realized she could bring in Abel (Patrick Stump) into the storyline and give Lute (a character she started being fond with mid-production) actual characterization and build-up before Lilith.That and Adam could’ve been originally revealed to be alive in the cliffhanger of season 2 (Lilith season) before season 3 (Yellow season - OG finale?) makes it relevant to the story. So by decompressing the plot elements of Lilith season into Vox’s season (Vox, Sera, Lute, Alastor, Pentious, Baxter, Cherri Bomb, Angel Dust) there is a lot more breathing room for Lilith season. To make it feel less stuffed up and shallow. To give a lot more time and attention to what would be cut off to save time.Cause season 2 was made with the thought in mind that season 3 (Lilith) wouldn’t be approved with season 4 (New stuff) at the same time.
>>151618190Why did this faggot have to behead Vox? How is he even alive without a body? And what will happen with him now?
Fuck the morningstars, we need more prick and hatchet
>Lilith was all about empowering rapists, murderers, pedophiles, etc and calling for them to resist heaven>the fandom unironically thinks she is going to be a good guyMassive cope
>>151620040Kinda wish that Trigger made a PSG special crossover with HH, it would match so well and I want to know which characters would befriend and fuck or hate each other.
>>151632495Her true from looks like this.Meaning, the exorcist halos are meant to look like her eyes. So essentially, Lute is an extension of Lilith/Eve that needs to be pulled out of it.
>>151632545I would pay money to see Garterbelt present Alastor with BDSM shit and Alastor fucking dying inside
>>151632495Lil doesnt register sinners as anything but pawns, her daughter is very mentally ill and has empathy for mortals for an unexplained reason as both Lil and Lucy are psychopaths
>>151632718Abel came from the same vagina as Charlie.
>>151620481I can’t imagine that broadcasting a block of just overlords screaming would be good for his viewership. Could back up the theory that fear and mystique increases an overlord’s (literal) power.
>Overlord of Slavery, lived as a plantation owner or something to that effect>Is 'retired' now because slavery is mostly extinguished in the mortal world and can live off the sheer amount of souls he owns>The Vees underestimate him specifically because they're not old enough to know just how prominent his portfolio used to be+they all died within the last century, while Alastor, as a mixed race guy from Louisiana, figured out who he was almost immediately after landing in hell and treated him respectfully accordingly as a fellow evil asshole >His spider theme is a play on him existing in the center of a metaphorical web of misery, while most other Overlords basically focus on specialized ways of enslaving human bodies and minds How's this fanfiction
>>151632727Lil stole Eve kid created from Lucy cucking Adam again?
>>151632727>>151632762I like the idea that they corrupted Eve in order to have children since Lilith's womb was cursed by heaven. The tumblr "polyamorous throuple" theory always rubbed me the wrong way, especially since Lucifer seems like a loyal husband in this setting.
>>151631344/co/ became basically a hazbin only board for a minute and everyone was very unhappy with us
>>151632495I just fear she's going to be Stella 2.0
>>151632785She should be since she was made from dust just like Adam (who is a massive dick.) Her sin was that she wanted to ride Adam's cock and Adam thought that was gay.
>>151632762>>151632776Charlie didn’t exist till recently. And Lute is younger than Charlie, surprisingly, despite being the oldest looking person in Heaven.
>>151632828>despite being the oldest looking person in Heaven.Lack of Adam dick does that to a woman.
>>151632844Imagine being Lute and having to listen to Adam talk endlessly about all the sluts he fucked over the weekend.
>>151632854Poor girl.
>>151632782Why does he have bags on his eyes
>>151632844>>151632854>>151632883Always remember, the angels promoted this to Adam. Not the other way around. Which explains why he seems so crazy.
>>151632892Cause Adam and Abel are fat and sad losers that badly miss Eve, and live in a world they are distant from angels for their inhumanity and Winners that have a completely different appearance (cause of sin) from them. Doesn’t really help that Abel never had a life in the first place and Adam lost even his very first son and countless others, that it’s obvious he trained Abel his own coping formulas when they were in Heaven.The fact that Lute, the solution, was only made accidentally and recently and only considered for war, makes me wonder what the fuck Heaven was thinking.
Adam was so funny, why did he have to go?
>>151632883Married crippled Lute.
>>151633034He literally needs to die in order any Sinner to be redeemed at all. Even for Lute to be redeemed since Sera made her fallen on purpose.
>>151632883She honestly seemed fairly asexual.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1USxshmIk_A>vox approaches you, an overlordwhat would he sing?for me>hey anon, i know you like a good sandwich>in heaven, you can make seraphim your bread bitch>they've got plenty of loaves, cheeses and meats>with you on my side surely they'll learn defeat
>>151633060Lute is basically Sera’s first imp. And is super focused on being responsible, objective, and perfect to please superiors. And then the other Exoricstd are modeled after her.It’s just that Adam is the only one that actually appreciated her that she would feel those natural feelings.
>>151633065I like art so I think he'd dress up like a beatnik and try to sway me with some jazzy tune with lots of finger-snapping
>>151633085Did Sera give her a pussy though?
>>151633096NTA but if Vaggie can have "sex" with Charlie, it stands to reason Lute and the rest of the exorcists also have a vagina and a sex drive.
>>151633108>create heavenly beings with the sole purpose of killing sinners>give them female reproductive organs, one of the leading causes of sinSera isn't that smart, is she?
>>151633108>>151633128Vaggie and Lute need to pee and poo, you know.
>>151633144That's what cloaca are for. Actually given how birdlike the exorcists are I wouldn't be surprised if that's what they are packing down there. Would explain why Adam never bothered to bang any of them, Lute especially.
>>151633108Lesbians can't have sex, a penis is required
>>151633176That's why I use quotation marks.
>>151633182alright anon, you've made it into my good books
>>151633176>>151633108Vaggie is the top. She likes to do stuff to Charlie's goat pussy. She doesn't need anything in return.
>>151633163Adam sexed birds in heaven for thousands of years because he will not screw human girls for the fact they will be his daughters.And Adam does a ton of bird things. That I will not be surprised if Lute followed him up in it.
>>151633176>>151633182>>151633189>>151633195Charlie and her dad have penises and vaginas.
>>151633212Lucifer can have any genitalia he wants. Charlie, being a half demon with hooves, is a gross animal hybrid thing.
>>151622800The most pretentious sniveling Christcuck is more of a brother to me than the most lax atheist Hazbin Hotel faggot
>>151633199Lute perching on the tip of my erect penis like that
>>151633228You're a bitch.
>>151633224Charlie and Lucifer have the same feet.
>>151633234What is wrong with you?
>>151633199>Adam sexed birds in heaven for thousands of years because he will not screw human girls for the fact they will be his daughters.Ah yeah he was cool with murdering his sons and daughters but fucking them was out of bounds. Give me a break.
>>151633257Nothing.
I hope there is more racism in S3. Also more non-spanish european characters. It's weird that like 20% of hell is hispanic. It's just not a good look.
>>151633267> murderingIf they were good, they would be in heaven already.
>>151633128In her defense, she didn't know what does or doesn't get people into Heaven. She taught Adam would appreciate it.
>>151633280> It's weird that like 20% of hell is hispanic. It's just not a good look.Burgers and Mexicans rule it.
>>151633286Pentious got sent to hell because he didn't snitch on some guy for assaulting a prostitute outside of his window. Plenty of people are in Hazbin's hell for much less. Also if they wanted to kill the real bad guys they'd just go after the overlords but they don't.
>>151633290She designed them to be subservient females because she wanted Adam to have the best control of them.
>>151633290>needs a leader for her exorcist army>gets Adam to agree to it by making them all living fleshlights in addition to being warriorsDamn maybe she isn't so dumb after all.
>S3 is about familyI really hope Angel learns to forgive his father and by extension Valentino. It would hilarious if that is what got him redeemed, especially since it would send tumblr and pleddit into a frenzy of suicidal meltdowns
>>151633280>Also more non-spanish european characters. It's weird that like 20% of hell is hispanicI don't really care about that, but I just don't like the latin style songs much
>>151633301>Pentious got sent to hell because he didn't snitch on some guy for assaulting a prostitute outside of his window.And my father is righteous for making that judgement.> Also if they wanted to kill the real bad guysOnly 20% of them died from a single extermination. It doesn’t matter.
>>151633301>Plenty of people are in Hazbin's hell for much lesswell yeah, the bible sends people to hell for way less
>>151633333Quints means it's canon
>>151633333>AD forgives Valentino in the middle of being raped by himPowerful.
>>151633348As of S2 we know that simply being gay is not enough to get a soul condemned to hell. No word yet on the other weird ways to get sent to hell (like being an unbaptized infant or getting an abortion
>>151633317But Adam never mated with any of them.At best, he developed a genuine female companionship Sera should’ve pushed on Adam, ever since the day Eve was sent to Hell. Instead of “solving” the no-Eve problem by letting the angels be super perverted on him. I hate Sera sooooooooo muuuuuuuuuch.
>>151633381>But Adam never mated with any of them.There is no proof of this. He likely did fuck Lute, thus her obsession with him.
>>151633396This is how Exorcists are actually handled in Adam’s authority.How “sexy”.
>>151633419That's just Vivzie being unable to make a character seem "evil" without making them abusive in some way, largely because she's a moral coward who constantly avoids addressing wider moral conundrums about what constitutes good and bad behavior. It's very millennial really. Vox and Valentino are LE BAD because they abuse Angel. Adam and Lute are bad because they abuse Vagina and her dyke friend. It's ironically very black and white reasoning but also retarded since there are actual psychos like Alastor running around.
>>151633333>>151633356>>151633370I think Angel Dust would be the side-story of Lilith using the influence of the Vees to push her voice all across Hell and Heaven. And Angel Dust would be the one to shut down Liltih’s access to Heaven’s and Hell’s networks, and accidentally reveal himself to Molly when he does a speech.
>>151618190I mean Vivziepop loves him too, over Angel Dust even.
>>151622420>>151622439>>151623841You know it's funny, Angel Dust originally was going to have that artist trait, but Vivziepop ended up giving that to Valentino instead.
>>151633445The scene makes it so that Adam is suspiciously not as enthusiastic and evil as he actually is, especially since that’s how Lute views him. But Lute herself actually is twisted and messed up. And the scene reveals to us that Vaggie used to have normal non-red eyes, implying that maybe her and the exorcists are actually Roo-infect as the Sinners are. It reveals so much and yet has new mysteries.The fact it isn’t a fun and sexual environment really changes everything on how we would see Adam, Lute, and the Exorcists. And that Lute was the only Exorcist that felt those deep feelings of love for him and was a very professional woman.
>>151633482>Valentino owns his soul AND his talentThis is why you read your contact before you sign it.
>>151633065>Hey-Hey-Hey-AAAAAANON>I hear in heaven they got armor of the toughest metals>But looks like Goooold and shinie like Peaaarrrlllsss>Join with me by my side, and surely you will be the Golden champion we need!I would then join because I'd get to look like the picture related if he won.
>>151623948>expecting Vivziepop written shows to be better overtimeIf Helluva Boss is any indication and from what little we know already, it won't; it'll just get worse.
>Angel is Charlie's first guest.>Charlie and he barely interact, and most of their interactions involve Charlie making Angel uncomfortable.Nice friendship. Vivz really doesn't know what to do with Charlie.
>>151633539>>Angel is Charlie's first guestAngel never wanted to be redeemed he just wanted free rent because he is a degenerate addict. He only stayed because he developed a weird crush on the bartender.
>>151633532Hazbin hotel is going to be so weird.>Angel Dust plotline in season 3 (being the main threat of Lilith’s media hold)>Zestial/Cain and Abel plotline in season 3, basically meaning Lute will involved and push the war further on Abel’s behalf>Rosie and AlastorSeason 4 is getting a new villain and new villain song that’s basically a scrapped version of Gravity for a different character.
Am I the only one who feels that Charlie's “development” in the first season clashes with her “development” in this season? In the first season, it seemed that Charlie would learn to be a true leader after her talk with Rosie, but in the second season, it seems that she learns that she sucks as a leader and that's why she leaves the manager position to Vaggie.
I just want porn of her.
>>151633633One talk isn’t enough.
I view fallen angel imagery between Lute and Emily very differently.Lute acts like she is a fallen angel and even looks like one naturally.While Emily’s fallen angel imagery is subtle most of the time and implies future corruption (gaining horns).
>>151633799Lucifer is the only true "fallen angel" (i.e. an angel who was forced out of heaven due to his actions) in the hellaverse. Everyone else just left heaven willingly or couldn't return without help (like Vaggie.) Accept that fallen angels won't be a thing ever in this franchise.
>>151632545The way I'm imagining it.>PantyFast friends with Angeldust. Husk's gambling partner when he finds out about Angel luck.>StockingVaggie's sparring partner.>GarterbeltFrequents the BDSM clubs, Goes gambling with Husker, tries the Shmooze the Vs and other Overlords.>Poly twinsHelping Lute kill all the demons (also probably the reason Panty and Stocking are in hell)>BriefIn heaven desperately trying to get to hell to be with Panty.>Scanty & KneesocksFeel a sisterly duty to help Charlie with the Hotel (They're also princesses of Hell) and try to guide Nifty on how to be a proper maid.
>>151633816I think fallen angels in the hellaverse is a topic that is meant to be explored in Hazbin hotel because it features the characters themed on it and the differences of being fallen (banished) or in a state of fallen (akin to a sinner).
>>151633128Adam constantly screams about fucking chicks and he's like the TOP angel. Based on them not knowing what does or does not get someone sent to hell, Adam's made a precedent that constant fucking is not one of them.
>>151633828Panty would probably try to convince Alastor to fuck her and use his tentacles and shadows to make it kinkier, much to his annoyance.
>>151633844Both Lute and Adam mock Angel for his slutty ways during Charlie's meeting with Heaven, though this could just be an S1 quirk since heaven was supposed to be implicitly homophobic back then.
>>151618361You mean he's a based Florida retard
>>151619716>Degenerate sex criminal is a degenerate
>>151623872>>151633925It's funny how possessive Vox is while Val doesn't seem to care if Vox has other guys/gals. Vox even killed that one girl demon Val with messing around with before the meeting. Dude has issues. No wonder he's still hung up on Alastor. That being said it was cute to see Val get a little jealous when Vox asked for some "time" with Angel in S2.
>>151630931VAGATHA'SVAGINAVARIABLYVANISHES
>>151630931Adam did it better
>>151630931Love it when the animators abandon Vivzie's retarded puritan asexual character designs and give female characters actual fucking hips. An actual bisexual woman would have made sexier female characters btw.
>>151634020This is more appealing than the fetish art.
>>151619670He's an insect. He's got an exoskeleton so you're looking at it.
>>151634052Were the exorcists in the pilot? Because they have feminine bodies so I kind of just assumed Amazon made Vivzie make them resemble actual female humans. Either way I like how they at least have petite hour glass figures.
>>151622167Someone with poor literacy skills? It seems like a misspelling of Alasdair?Kind of like how Elvis' dad spelled Aaron as Aron on the birth certificate.
>>151620481Alastor's shows were probably boring news segments. I doubt they were anything special. He wasn't a genius like Vox
>>151634085Yes. But their halos were completely different.
>>151634116You're joking, right? Alastor had everything going against him for being born half-black in an incredibly racist era. The mere fact that he got the job proves that he must have been incredibly talented.
>>151634159Plus, Vox had to kill to get further in his career, Alastor did it as a side jig
>>151634118>Alastor had everything going against him for being born half-black in an incredibly racist eraThat's like saying Obama was incredibly talented for just being able to put a coherent sentence together without seeming black. A lot of black people have success in white dominated fields by being the "model minority." This is very likely the case with Alastor. It even explains why he is so obsessed with always smiling, since it helps disguise his utter disgust with the white racists he had to work with on a daily basis while doing his broadcasts.
>>151634182Sorry meant to respond to >>151634159
>>151634182Wrong post, anon
Wait… so Adam went through an eternity of depression all because he was separated from Eve’s clown pussy?
>>151634020Anon, dying has a 25% chance of turning you into a furry Jack Skellington in the Hellaverse, I think that is what Vivzie’s into.
>>151634211Adam was still getting laid in heaven. By all accounts he died a happy man.
>>151634221No she's doing that thing female artists do where they intentionally neuter female characters to avoid appealing to the "male gaze." It's why their shows usually struggle since the female characters are visually unappealing.
>>151634222No he didn’t. It actually made him even worse.
Emily will soon be Alastor's property.
>>151634181Alastor wasn't successful though. He lived in a shack in the forest while Vox was insanely wealthy.
>>151634232???
>>151634255He's asexual. Please respect his identity. Vivzie is asexual herself so she likely wouldn't remove the one positive example that we have of asexual in cartoon media.
>>151634267If you are turned on by that bug thing you have problems.
>>151634259The cabin was obviously just the place where he took his victims for the rituals; he surely had a house in the city that was close to the studio where he worked.
>>151634270>Vivzie is asexual herself so she likely wouldn't remove the one positive example that we have of asexual in cartoon media.Vivzie being asexual can enjoy seeing to men boning it up I'm sure Alastor can enjoy two women grinding it up.
>>151634293>The cabin was obviously just the place where he took his victims for the ritualsDidn't seem that way. He was a mixed race dude living in New Orleans. Plenty of them lived out in shacks back then.
>Alastor accidentally summons Emily instead of communicating with Rosie.>Emily believes it is a test to help humanity.>Alastor now has to put up with Emily as she tries to redeem him so that when he dies, he will go to heaven.>Ironically, invoking Emily saves his life by distracting him and preventing him from going to kill the next day.How about this idea?
>>151634293He died super young. I doubt he was successful enough to get a house. Rosie only said that he had his own "radio show." Vox had his own network. It's clear who is more successful here and who had the bigger drive. Of course that's also Vox's biggest flaw, as Alastor himself pointed out. They really should've just fucked.
>>151634270>Vivzie is asexualWell, if you ain't the granddaddy of all liars.
>Charlie says Lilith was all about peaceful protests and empowering SinnersThe problem with this is what exactly was Lilith protesting against?This was before the Exterminations, and it sounds like Heaven was very hands-off and had nothing much to do with Hell at the time, yet she's out there protesting and demanding shit from Heaven? What, does she want them to provide better living conditions for the damned??
>>151634582She probably wanted to rule heaven.
Where does she get the dog face from since both of her parents have flat faces
>>151634582It was probably similarly about being open to redeeming sinners like Charlie does. Just without the 1 year time limit massacre forcing her to streamline the proccess. It kinda seems like everyone in hell seems to be under the impression that the angels make the decisions of who does and doesn't go to hell. When the reality is they're just as clueless as anyone.
>>151634640Dog face and goat feetCharlie is a freaky ass chimera, I can only assume it’s just naturally what happens when a high ranking Seraphim angel and an Antediluvian Human/demon mix.
>>151634582The idea of being trapped in Hell and imposed punishment? I could see her ramping that up once Charlie was born in a "I want my daughter to have everything and be able to go anywhere" kind of way. Maybe Lilith wanted to tear down the borders so to speak and take some revenge.
>>151634671Id imagine she would look really weird in real life. The art style really downplays the dog face when she’s facing the front but it comes out when she’s facing the side.
>>151634701makes me wonder, is she furry?like does she have normal super pale skin, or is she covered in a very fine fur or something.
>>151634712I like to think it's a super-fine fur. She's a goat-girl, and some of the highest-end clothing is made of coats and hides of sheep/goats. Not getting creepy in that direction, I'm just saying she's probably feel remarkably soft, almost velvety.
>>151634582That 7 years thing really fucks up the lore something fierce. I can't think of single problem it solves, but a ton it creates. Lilith's attempted uprising could very easily have been much farther back in response to much longer-running exterminations. They're treated like this thing that has been going on forever but really only the most recent of the most recent sinners wouldn't have witnessed the start of them.It also raises the question of why Adam and Lilith both decided to raise armies at the same time after millennia of apparently doing fuckall since they weren't engaged in any kind of fighting, uprising, or bloodshed beforehand. Someone on one or both sides very recently decided that a thing that wasn't a problem for thousands of years was suddenly a problem. Hell would already be practically overflowing when the exterminations started. The sinners would have been wallowing "peacefully" in murder and mayhem for an eternity already before Lilith decided to "protest"... something. Even if Charlie was actually a twenty-something year old and not a centuries-old half-angel, the whole conflict would have started when she was old enough to comprehend it in a way that doesn't require breaking down in a kid's storybook. Like, how does Vaggie know so much more about Hell than Charlie when she's only been there 3 years and been hanging around Charlie the whole time?I just don't understand why it had to be 7 years. You could still have Lilith disappear relatively recently, but some things just make more sense over a longer period. Not to mention make the scale of things feel bigger.
I want to lick between his hooves so fucking bad…
amazon is really turning them into gacha addicts .i've seen people spending up to 200 dollars or more for a pack of cards
>>151634736>That 7 years thing really fucks up the lore something fierceHonestly, they just needed to add "yearly" to make it have perfect sense. Human population started growing exponentially only recently, it would make sense that exterminations started as one in a century, for example, and got progressively more frequent. It would also add a layer of urgency that would explain why Lilith decided to empower sinners and ultimately retaliate
>>151634736Yeah the book really fucks with the 7 years narrative, like its clearly a biased children's storybook written by her parents for when she was a toddler, yet it outright mentions the Exterminations.To me just the fact that in 7 years, in 7 exterminations that only last a day, they wiped out so many of Hell's ancient Sinners that the oldest Overlord is Zestial who's maybe like 600 based on his ol' timey Shakespearean speech, it just doesn't add up.
Wait, if Lucifer can't hurt Sinners, this should have done fuck-all in Hell and makes the finale either entirely moot or entirely canon-breaking.Is this a plot hole, or are they ever going to factor it in (here's a gizmo to discharge your power instead of punching the problem directly)?
>>151634737okay vaggi
Releasing this early proves that they knew full well what a banger they had in their hands, so I can only assume they postponed making her the season villain until they cleared the way from more direct ones like Vox. Also because it makes no sense to introduce a new villain when they made Lute going bonkers such a prominent plot point.Also, Lute should blind Vaggi for good (because of course she's going to be her primary target in her villain arc), but then a full-bangs-to-cover-up-missing-eyes Vaggi should power up into a multi-eyed angelic form (maybe in the inside of her hair like Luciver has in the inside of his coat?). Too bad I can't draw for shit or I would give that a try.
>>151635087Is this autism? Neither a bullet or a gun can singlehandedly hurt you, would that mean they're not deadly when mixed?
>>151635168Lucifer is a seraphim, vaggie is a normal exterminator, she doesn't have a multiple eyes/wings form
>>151635087When we see him try to attack Vox, he's stopped short by his 'punishment'. If he had punched Vox, it would have hurt him, but he literally cannot punch him.So it's not that his powers won't work on them, it's that's he just can't actually do it. So with the gun, it's just taking his power and throwing it at them, without whatever force is behind his punishment blocking him.
>>151635226So, all Lucifer needed to do to bypass his punishment, was to ask a friend to harness his power and smite people in his stead? And the heavenly council never considered that possibility?
>Lucifer>friendsDo you even watch this show man?The only person he can even stomach to be around is his daughterwifeHe hates sinners, he hates Hell, he hates himselfAnd to top it all off, despite all his power he's really just a sniveling babyHe doesn't like conflict, doesn't like confrontation and prefers to hide in his man-baby cave with all his rubber ducksHe's an inert loser
>>151635357The Sins clearly miss him
I don't care if she canonically has hooves. I shall continue to generate Charlie slop with long, sexy feet.
>>151635377Admittedly I haven't watched much of Helluva Boss.I watched half of the first season I think. Just couldn't get into it.>>151635390>AI garbageFuck off.
>>151634159Al was just tan you idiot
>>151635326>And the heavenly council never considered that possibility?Why are you assuming is a heavenly punishment and not a karmic one? People in heaven don't even know how you get there in first place, they're way less in control than everyone, even in universe, seems to assume. Besides, technology is modern by definition, and by then Lucifer was already a basement dweller
>>151632495anon this is hazbin hotel we're talking about
>>151635241Come on, the power of love, dramatic climax in the finale battle, yadayadayada, Charlie in actual danger, probably not even of losing her life, most likely of losing her "soul" or her "spirit" and making herself unredeemably evil (egged on by Lute and possibly even Alastor) by going completely fucking medieval on Lute due to pain, wrath and vengeance for losing Vaggie. So a dying, blinded, broken Vaggie goes PLUS ULTRA and regenerates into a more powerful, thougth-impossible angelic form and stops her.It's the oldest trope in the book, and one I would greatly enjoy.
>>151635438>PLUS ULTRAYeah, this is not mha, anon. They were all in extreme danger both in S1 and S2 last episodes and vaggie couldn't do shit in both occasions. Well, she could at least train a little to be able to fend off Lute instead of existing just to be Charlie's sex toy
>>151635296Sure, but that opens the door to this >>151635326They're even in the good grace of Carmilla Carmine so they can just make her give Lucifer an angelic pea-shooter so it's not really him who's hurting whoever-is-creating-problems-for-Charlie, it's the peashooter.And if he can't pull the trigger because karma, give it the trigger to somebody else who works in tandem with Lucifer, pressing the button while dad fingerbangs left and right to easily smite problematic sinners out of the way.Sure, Charlie wouldn't agree and that could be an internal narrative conflict, but by making a cannon they either broke their own storytelling rules or created the opportunity for it to happen.It's basically the Holdo Maneuver.
>>151635487>dad fingerbangs
>>151634883>that the oldest Overlord is Zestial who's maybe like 600 based on his ol' timey Shakespearean speech, it just doesn't add up.Zestial Morde is Cain…His whole goofy name and speech is from him being a religious bastard
>>151634279Not that Anon but Niffty is pure sex
>>151635463Wanna bet?Niffty is apparently a fucking overlord and that sure didn't factor in the S1 finale brawl AT ALL. Sure she killed Adam but that was a comedic stabbing, not a mighty display of overlord powers. HH writing doesn't really concern itself with hard-ruled powerscaling, if something fits in the story I'm sure they will throw it in.Also Charlie never actually approached the moral event horizon that could make Vaggie power up like that. Sure she got angry, but not soul-crushingly-unredeemably angry in the way Lute will for sure try to accomplish by taking her own rage out on Vaggie in order to hurt Charlie.Also I just think that seraphim-Vaggie vould be a neat design.
>>151635168>Also because it makes no sense to introduce a new villain when they made Lute going bonkers such a prominent plot point.Eve and Lute are so ridiculously similar and interconnected that they do belong in the same season (3).The bad mouthing they could have against each other would be hilarious or disturbing.
>>151633482>We could of got an Angel drawing tutorial where he gets to do domestic fluff stuff with his friends and expand on his relationshipsHopefully the Angel Dust abuse train stops next season.
>>151635531>Niffty is apparently a fucking overlord and that sure didn't factor in the S1 finale brawl AT ALLHow was that supposed to change anything exactly? She was doing the same as Husk and we do know he was an overlord since the beginning. She was supposed to go against Adam herself to prove she was stronger than the average sinner? If I recall well, she even appeared amongst the overlords Alastor took down in the pilot. Everyone knew she was an overlord, we just needed formal confirmation from the show at that point. Besides, that's still a credible power up because an overlord is still a sinner, just more powerful than average
>>151634736having just watched the blu ray commentary for season 1 they hate that they said 7 years toowhich is why they go so hard at never pinning down dates or anything besides handwavy time frames after that
>>151624477Nigger that is absolutely not the tone the Overlords who joined in were setting apart from Vox and Val, it absolutely was Care Bear-coded. And I hate that I exist in a world where those last three words are the most accurate way to describe what just happened in a show other people older than I was when I stopped watching Care Bears apparently enjoy.
Why the fuck did the friendship bubble contain a holy nuke?
>>151635889Never underestimate the power of a care bear stare
How the fuck did Carmillas device not immediately explode simply trying to take a tiny fraction of Lucifers power? Why the fuck does Carmine even have that device?
>>151636070I guess she's that good at making angel containment machinesAnd she only made it because Vox commissioned it and might have given some of his own tech to make it work
>>151635889I'll never understand why shitposters decide that coming off as idiots is somehow funny, but you really don't need to be a genius to understand it was a fucking shield that contained the explosion. They even literally used the same method heaven used for their own shield, can't get more obvious than that without having a character narrating that out loud, which apparently now is even a thing for some shows because people have the attention span of a retarded goldfish
Shouldnt PR be empty due to Carmillas angel weapons bypassed the no sinners can die constant? Any nut could just shoot up a crowd with angel metal bullers ffs.
>>151636112Heavens shield came from high tier angels not Jobverlords
>>151627020>Exterminations started 7 years ago>Lilith left 7 years ago>Alastor got sent into hiding by Rosie 7 years ago>Very on the nose Lilith silhouette dragging Charlie away from Lucifer, who seems to have been practically waiting for an excuse to be dad of the yearLook I'm just saying, that's a lot of red flags for Lilith turning out to have had a good reason to repeatedly ignore her daughter's calls. Even after Adam himself tried to murder her and her husband got trapped in a goddamn tube, no less.
>>151627157If Lilith turns out to be even half the fraud her daughter was exposed as, it'll be a fucking wild day for Agenda Hotelposters.>>151627780This is a cult leader, an abusive pimp and their fag hag fag....I kind of wish Hazbin would draw more attention to the fact that all the very powerful people in Hell seem to consistently have wholesome relationships even if they're otherwise ruthless, vile and cruel. There's something interesting you could say there about the hope for redemption even in the strangest places, but I know that's not it and Vivzie just likes giving her donut steels funny little relationship dramas.
>>151636135Charls is 300 years old, meaning Lil only fucked off in a tiny percentage of her time existing. To Lil shes a big girl who dont need no mommy to hold her hand.
>>151628708In SEVEN DAYS no less! Remember! Exterminations have only been going on for SEVEN YEARS (translation 364 days of Exorcists...doing whatever the fuck they do in Heaven. Training, I guess. And occasional military hazings. And 1 day of newbie Soulsborne player jabbing in Hell) now so I guess Adam got Stalin, Mao, Mussolini, Hitler AND Gaddafi so fast Vivzie conveniently doesn't have to talk about any of them in the present day!
>>151628708Val wanted to see Nifty get raped so pedos are in Hell
>>151629801Zestial looks like the smartest guy in the show simply because his advice is consistently "this is a bad idea, keep your head down, don't make trouble, and don't fall for the idiot loudmouth's b8" and it's objectively the right fucking move as long as you're already more successful than the average sinner.
>>151635393Well, now I just want to post more to upset you.
>>151636193Hillbilly Charlie is so hot, her Danny Do Bad stuff was so sexy
>>151631325I'm still processing the fact that being Floridan makes you immune to demonic sissy hypno in Hazbin Hell.
>>151632449We need more Overlords in general since they can actually fight without being gimped by retardation, absence or sealing jutsus to avoid breaking the setting. I wanna see how Maestro and Zizi met.
>>151632737>The Vees underestimate him specifically because they're not old enough to know just how prominent his portfolio used to beI don't think Overlords work on like, American Gods rules. Carmilla is plenty prominent even if she barely uses any magic in the show and there's less war than there used to be. Also Vizie spelt out that he did everything he wanted and has nothing left to do in Hell so he's just chilling. Other than that, not a bad start.
>>151633333Fuck it, after Helluva somehow turned around BLITZO being the one who came onto STOLAS by S2, I'd find it hilarious. They can't stop pumping out side media about the Vees being a wholesome little corpo family anyway, might as well commit to the bit and reveal actually Angel LOVED gangbangs from the start and broke Val's heart even though Val was willing to give up his empire to go steady with him, and Val was only starting to lash out at Angel recently because Angel pointed four guns at the big shark during a heated argument.
>>151635438Chances of Charlie going ballistic over an injured Vaggie are much higher than the reverse.
>>151636312Val has no heart, hes a fucking psychopath like every porn director or producer
>>151636112why does a friendship bubble create a shield? what is the narrative purpose of that? why didn't they have the big finale song be charlie and co. convincing the sinner population that vox was in the wrong?
>>151635087>Carmilla commissions Lucifer an angel metal Iron Man suit as an apology for building the big tube>Lucifer can now hurt sinners>Just not directly with his normal powers, but by channeling them through gloves so it's technically the Mega Man hand cannon or whatever not him hurting the sinnerFucking hell, that's just stupid enough to work in Hazbin.
>>151636218The attire isn't "hillbilly." It's more rockabilly than anything, the music of which is like country that embraced electric guitars, a higher tempo, and songs about more than the glorification of the rural.
>>151636367God I want to hear her saw yeehaw in that get up
>>151636162>Charlie is 300 years oldzero evidence of that in the show
>>151636162>Charlie has been THIS fucking useless at everything for 300 years Holy fuck.>>151636331You say that but then you have the show having him being surprisingly considerate to both his galpal and the guy he's dickriding.
>>151636396Thats called manipulation not being considerate
>>151636361Sera made a shield in heavenEmily is the same kind of angel as Sera.Emily is making a shield around the cannon. Emily is injured and doesn't have enough magic power.Charlie and all the overlords help her by boosting the energy of the shield.
>>151636447I don't think Val is manipulating very well if he's the one who ends up pining for Vox, and even saving him from the consequences of his own decisions instead of just letting disillusioned Overlords tear him apart.
>>151636449well let's be real alastor and rosie did all the heavy lifting therethey were all gonna get nuked before those two stepped in
>>151636361>why does a friendship bubble create a shield? We call it friendship bubble for the memes, but in reality it's just a fucking shield.>what is the narrative purpose of that? Narratively? To show hell population can cooperate. Technically? Probably didn't have the budget or ability for a giant ensemble battle,yet.>why didn't they have the big finale song be charlie and co. convincing the sinner population that vox was in the wrong?Look, I think Hear my hope is a very good song that was misused. What you say with Emily and Charlie talking to the sinners while the overlords fought Vox would have worked spectacularly with that song. I really think some limitations came into play in that case forcing a more subdued storyboard, especially knowing that Viv herself is big into anime
>>151636361>>151635889>Why does Vox get powerups from ratings?>Why can Baxter fucking hack Overlords' gear?>Why does Carmilla never use magic?>Why is Zizi the only one who is a big stompy dinosaur?>Why were 3 imps and their wolf able to beat up a Goetia (who is supposed to be stronger than Alastor)?The sooner you just accept magic simply does whatever the plot needs it to in these shows, the better.
>>151636469fun fact when adam breaks alastors dome in season 1 adam was supposed to do an anime esque charging sequence. It got removed because of TV epilepsy rulessource the blu ray commentary
>>151636463Eh. The shield was mostly finished, they just put a lid on it. I'd argue the other Overlords contributed the most as a whole. Although Charlie, Emily, Husk and Nifty deserve credit for getting as far as they did with fewer people who could actually shoot beams.
>>151636463Knowing that they contributed roughly as much as Charlie and Emily is interesting. The whole bubble is a powerlevel goldmine
>>151636481i am accepting thatthe problem is the plot isn't good
>>151636494You're thinking too hard about it. They just put them in a sequence that flows the best with the song.
>>151636390Still not quite right. Go listen to some Reverend Horton Heat if you want a better idea of what the music sounds like and the "vibe" it has.This, however, is very appropriate.https://files.catbox.moe/8d9o8a.png
>>151636494Emily was plot nerfed, she should have made a full bubble since Adam would job to her
>>151636481>Why were 3 imps and their wolf able to beat up a Goetia (who is supposed to be stronger than Alastor)?This one's easy; raw power does not automatically equal better fighting skill and competence. And a Goetia is inerently a thing so powerful they'd not often even be assaulted by three imps and a dog in the first place, so whatever expertise the Goetia would have in surviving assassination attempts by, say, other Goetia or actual Goetia-level threats wouldn't apply to three imps and a dog.
>>151636524Do we know that? She just seems a promoter in heaven
>>151636566>raw power does not automatically equal better fighting skill and competenceIt would be nice if the show actually explained this, especially in Hell's hostile environment where people are fighting all the time, constantly.>>151636495I agree. I'm just here to hatewatch myself.>>151636512This guy gets it. Hazbin doesn't really have powerlevels no matter what the chart says, it has dramatic beats.
>BRAAAAAPPP
>>151636694Angels don't fart
>>151636696They do when Adam wants them to.
>>151636696Explain this, retard.
>>151628708>"Hell is full of bad people">"But not like "bad" bad people that i personally find objectionable like racists or pedophiles. "bad" as in "sad misunderstood san francisco gay furry" kinda of bad">"Heaven/God are actually bad guys for being mean to gay furries and not letting them into the Heaven."*taps the sign*
>>151636330Can see this happening. Charlie might kill Lute and then ofc have a melt down about becoming an evil murderer
>>151637001>"But not like "bad" bad people that i personally find objectionable like racists or pedophiles. "bad" as in "sad misunderstood san francisco gay furry" kinda of bad">>"Heaven/God are actually bad guys for being mean to gay furries and not letting them into the Heaven."Neither of these are canon to Hazbin
I wanna have sex with Pendleton, Nifty and Abel
>>151637154I'm going to allow this
>>151637001>*taps the sign*Go back.
>>151632727
>>151631303I truly don't get this sentiment. Viv is right why do you need to see Lucifer get his boo boos kissed it was played for laughs.
>>151637184>Adam is the ultimate cuckHoly kek big if true.
>>151637184His face looks like Adam though and Eve is probably blonde.
>>151637207Maybe showing that your supposedly good hearted lead character, which is pretty much universally regarded as one of the weakest of the cast, is not a complete self-centred asshole may be worth few seconds
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0NFJrroc-gStinkmeaner solo vs everyone in Hell Who would win?
>>151636574Angels dont train, they are just created with their PLs. Emily might be adorable but she could solo Hell minus Lucifer
>>151637001Loona is a hellborn, she will cease to exist when she dies
>>151637338Whoever drew that was just baiting and doesn't know shit about the shows' lore
>>151637016>>151636330That's exactly what I'm talkin about.> Lute wrecks Vaggie or even outright kills her (she will get better)> Charlie goes completely ballistic> Vaggie comes back with seraphim-ish powerup and all is good againI will even take Charlie as the villain for a few episodes as she throws away everything she believes in and has built and goes on a one-woman rampage agains Heaven to find Lute and tear her limb from limb. Until of course Vaggie respawns more powerful than ever and love triumphs.
>>151637328>Emily might be adorable but she could solo Hell minus LuciferAgain, where is this even implied? It took one single attack from the cannon to destroy the shield Sera and the angels did, but the shield hell did withstood the explosion of the machine, so all forces of hell combined are stronger than heaven's? For all we know Emily could be little more than a mascotte like Razzle and Dazzle
>>151637446It's kinda cute to see the fan of a glorified onahole begging for relevance. Since when the love interest of a MC had any significant relevance or even got stronger than the MC? Vaggie may go up against Lute, but with bigger names like Alastor, Lilith, Eve or Roo the center stage will go to the protagonist by default
>>151637461Shes a seraphim, the cannon is Lucifers power, and the care bear shit is plot induced stupidity
>>151637533And Angel and Alastor are both sinners, good luck having the first fight the second>the care bear shit is plot induced stupidityNice argument here, really shows your debate skills
>>151637753No Carmilla stating the cannon melting down would cause a city nuking explosion yet that didnt happen at the end of the care bear shit. The cannon barely explodes into gay sparkles.
>>151637224Obviously Abel is Adam and Lucifer's kid.
>>1516370961. Vivzie said it in a interview and nothing in the show contradicts it so it's canon2.literally plot of the first season wtf are you talking about
>>151635087Lucifer doesn’t care at all about sinners and hates hell. Even if he could hurt sinners himself he probably would only do so if they annoyed him directly.
>>151635506Damn I forgot that Cain became a murderer because god didn’t like his offering. Wonder what zany backstory Vivzie will give him if he appears in S3?
>>151637872Removing obstacles for Charlie would be reason enough.
>>151637805S2 retconned the whole “heaven is le bad” thing.
>>151637907>S2 retconnedWe find out in season 1 that almost all of Heaven didn't know about the exterminations
>>151637933Sera was super supportive of it in S1. Then in S2 she becomes a totally different person.
>>151637949>Sera was super supportive of it in S1.Not really>Then in S2 she becomes a totally different person.I mean she found out she'd been ok'ing the murders of countless people who could've potentially been redeemed
>>151637805>literally plot of the first season wtf are you talking aboutThe show never argued that it was wrong for gay furries to be sent to hell. The issue was specifically that the exterminations went immediately from trash cleanup to deeply immoral (if not outright interfering with God's plan) if it was proven that souls could improve and ascend from hell.
>>151637791Yeah, I wonder too what the strange glowing dome they were building during the song was doing. Oh, I'm ironic, of course, since you seem to have trouble with comprehension
>>151637903And permanently slaughtering sinners left and right is definitely a good way to mend his relationship with Charlie, right?
>>151638052If they could contain the power like that then the tension meant nothing. Emily should have just tossed it high in the sky then let it explode with only a weakened shockwave hitting the city causing an earthquake at best.
>>151637907>retconnedThis word lost all meaning because of retards using it as synonym for "something I don't like"
>>151638086That would have also ruined the tension since it implies that the explosion wouldn’t have been that bad.
>>151638086And she didn't because.... Oh yeah, you can't grasp the fact that your little adorable waifu may not be the powerhouse that makes you tickle
>>151637791>care bear shitSome of you have never seen a musical and it shows.
>>151620481Why is he black?
>>151638106Its not a big object she should have been able to lift it based on Alastors physical striking feats
>>151638073He has never been much of a forward thinker
>>151637297Who Charlie? Literally every other second on screen is Charlie trying to make hell and sinners better. Charlie and Lucifer had an entire arc in s1 about getting closer.
>>151638137Fair
>>151638132Hes white, a negro wouldnt be allowed whites in 30s Lousianna that was a time they lynched blacks for anything. This makes me wonder how racist most of the overlords are since they died before whites turned into total cucks before 2000
>>151638164He’s creole, not black. There’s a difference. He’s basically just a mutt. Explains why he is so evil.
>>151638145>Charlie trying to make hell and sinners betterYeah, to impress mommy. When you look past the words you see someone who never cared to even learn what made sinners who they are, endangered her supposed friends multiple times to force everyone to agree she's right, didn't even care her first guest left after putting him in uncomfortable situations multiple times to the point of inviting his abusers in his safe space. What did the show itself say? >Words are cheap, but actions speak the truth
>>151638133Again, she didn't because...? She's the one who started the song, why she couldn't be able to complete the shield if she's so all powerful?
>>151638190>muh angel >muh safe spaceHe was only there for the free rent.
>>151638185No hes tan not black, even intelligent blacks like Tiana were treated like dogshit in Lousianna bacl then.
Human Alastor has no afro american accent either
Why doesnt Charlie just build a walled off section of the PR for non sadist in Hell instead of this stupid hotel?
>>151637949Pentious’ double snake cock bird destroyer 2000 will do that to a woman
Hell would be mostly morally neutral people based on how anal Heavens requirements are, so the assholes in Hell would get put in cages like we do to them IRL.
>>151638263The strength of your soul is determined by your ambition and grit. People like Vox were already quite strong the moment they entered hell. I doubt the masses of sinners could easily subdue sinners like him.
>>151638276No its based on Vivs farts as Rosie isnt nuts yet very OP
hugs are nice ^^
>>151638250Does he still have them in heaven?
>>151638190Whatever you say Katie
Who do you think should be in the hazbin hotel?
>>151637896Zestial/Cain will be a deranged mama’s boy to parallel Abel being lured in to war against Hell because of Lute.And Cain will be paralleled with his dad, Adam, by him prioritizing Eve over Carmilla just as Adam did for Eve over Lute and the Exorcists. And probably die with a hole in his chest. With Carmilla crying over him.
>>151638692No clue, but everyone who uses or posts AI should be in hell and that I know for sure.
>>151638628Still seething, Viv?
>>151635390>>151636193charlie with long, sweaty feet? dare i say based?
Need my boywfie Abel.
>>151638729Not true
>>151638848Suck a fat shit right from Sam Altman's ass.And that's a garbage Angel Charlie. Zero inspiration or soul.But what can you expect from AI.
>>151638848I hope Viv for giving Charls no angel traita whatsoever
>>151638729i use ai to generate hazbin-themed chick tract scripts
>>151633684SHE'S PRETTY
>>151638848no it doesn't
>>151638145> Charlie trying to make hell and sinners betterIs she though?Her whole thing is trying to redeem sinners to get them OUT of Hell, she’s not trying to change Hell to be better she’s just pushing for legal immigration of good people and leaving Hell a shithole.
>>151633065Will he ever get a body again?
>>151633280Yeah I expected way more Germans in hell, especially Bavarians.
>>151633828>also probably the reason Panty and Stocking are in hellI totally forgot about this part. Panty is actually in hell in s3 and Stocking will likely follow to save her. I would be surprised if there wasn't at least one scene with some HH characters in the background, assuming s3 gets made within this decade.
>>151618190god I want him to rape megod I want him to rape megod I want him to rape megod I want him to rape meplease rape me
>>151639633I hope so. He was the best character in s2
>>151638848>AI shit cannot imitate HH art (yet)Based. I only fap to the real shit.
Abel gets to fuck two chicks his dad couldn't.
>>151635087>>151635296Could you grab lucifer by the legs and beat sinners to death with him?
>>151640630Lute is the step mom.Emily is the girl Abel barley interacted with.
>>151624576I seriously doubt it. There's no cues in his characters indicating this beyond a coincidence in the card.
The assholes as the best. S1 had Adam, s2 Vox. S3 needs another turbo asshole.
>>151630216Mostly because he seemed rational when Vox was losing it. Butnif anything he’s a spoiled diva who Vox pampers. Once Vox wasn’t paying attention to him he sobered up and rescued his sugar daddy.
>>151631325He has poor eyesight and judging by that one love potion ad with Vox it’s possible Val’s pheromones don’t do anything to Vox either.Which means those two can’t influence each other in any way against their will and they legit love each other.
>>151641054>S3 needs another turbo assholeAlastor is the obvious choice
>>151639633He either starts next season with a body or he’ll suffer jumping around and then going through a brave little toaster type of adventure where he will meet people he would otherwise never engage with and get into all sorts of shenanigans that will serve as character growth.Meanwhile the other Vees have to deal with the corporate side of Voxtek and they’re going to be miserable and understand Vox better and also will be missing him (and Val will also be dealing with Angel Dust drama which hopefully gets resolved this season).It ends with the Vees reuniting and having a better bond, Vox gets his body back, or Elder Angels come in the last episode and fuck things up.
>>151641426I want him to do irredeemable shit even show fucking contempt against Vox and hurt him just to silence that woo is side of his fandom.
Adam is gathering the massive pile of Sinner Exorcists during the month of his absence. And he’s still watching over Vaggie to make sure she is secured.
>>151641568They'll justify everything he does so it wouldn't matter. They're like Adam fans that way. They're right about him and the writers are wrong and in Alastor's case also racist unless he's a woobie.
>>151641631But with Adam, the writers don’t want him to be a fallen angel or sinner, and would want him to be the silent guardian angel for Lute, Vaggie, and Exorcists.
>>151637001>>"But not like "bad" bad people that i personally find objectionable like racists or pedophiles. "bad" as in "sad misunderstood san francisco gay furry" kinda of bad"the bible says sad san francisco gay furries go to hell
>>151642123We literally see gay shit in heaven in S2
>>151642146they probably repressed their sexuality in life, but are allowed to be gay in heaven as a reward
>>151638133>FEATS>IN HAZBIN>F E A T SSo are we ready to talk about how it takes 3 imps and a hellhound to beat up a Goetia (which are stronger than Overlords)?
>>151642123That’s my Jesus.
yes, the powerscaling doesn't make any senselike why can alastor beat vox in a fight immediately after vox objectively being the most powerful sinner in hell?there's no point in trying to make it make sense
>>151642254I just assumed that Vox has inexplicable popularity based powers since S1 shows him jizzing from being directly connected to the Vee network and literally basking in the ratings, and that's what he asks about the moment everything's fucked for him too. That does not of course answer the question of WHY Vox is the only demon in Hell with popularity based powers, it is just the vibe I get from this show because demon magic just does whatever the fuck it wants fluffed around your personality.Do we even know what Overlords even do with all those souls to become more powerful? I thought they'd all basically be Alucard at first but no, turns out Alastor is the only one who seems to use minions that much.
>>151642146I wonder what level of sexual kinks are allowed in Heaven. Like I imagine some of the real hardcore bdsm type shit is a no-no, but what about more normal fetishes? Do they kinkshame in heaven? Or are they okay with some stuff but just ask you to keep it in the house and not show it off in the streets.
>>151642428A lot of extreme fetishes are the result of earthly shit like childhood trauma, brain damage, and porn abuse. They’d probably just have wholesome consensual orgies.
>>151642428It's actually making me wonder what the rules are? Like what's the punishment if you break the rules in heaven. It isn't being sent to hell cuz nobody knows what gets you sent to hell. What're they gonna do? Kill you?
>>151642530You cannot enter heaven in the Hellaverse unless you have sufficiently fixed yourself. I doubt there are malcontents up there.
>>151640630Abel is gay
>>151642428only missionary after marriage allowed
>>151642553Adamn's a collossal dick and Abel's a huge trembling pussy. There's no doubt in my mind that Abel would've let Jack the Ripper go if put in the same situation as pentious.
>>151642530Having an angel Fall seems like a really rare occurrence they don’t do much, like normally someone as bloodthirsty as Lute wouldn’t be allowed to stay an angel but they let it slide. The only true Fallen Angel we know is Lucifer, who introduced evil into the world so that’s a big oopsie worthy of the big punishment. I also don’t really count Vaggie as Fallen, since her circumstances are more like taking someone’s wallet and phone and leaving them stranded in Detroit than an actual official fall from grace.
I think Lute will kill Eve in season 3’s finale, and we get introduced to Sinner Exorcists (which Adam was gathering and organizing) and an Adam and Lute reunion. So that for what Zestial/Cain did in season 3, he would be forced to babysit these Sinner Exorcists, becoming their head Exorcist.But the main idea going on here is that Eve only died once, and will comeback in season 4 (only being in her Roo form) and 5. And the Exorcists themselves 100% corrupted without a doubt by the original sin, that some Angel needs to be banished for designing them that way (Sera).
>>151642598Fallen in Hazbin has two different meanings.All humans are born fallen and Exorcists are fallen too. Abel was a fallen human and so was Molly before they are winners. Lute and Vaggie are this way too, but because of their inherent supernatural natures, they would express that curse that humans can’t.The falling you’re thinking about is very Angel and pure Human (Lilith and Adam) specific, especially because they are 100% holy and do not the flaws humans and exorcists have. Lute is going by what she thinks angels are supposed to be by her corrupted nature, and Adam couldn’t force Vaggie to resume her angelic role. Lucifer and Lilith are absolutely fuck ass disgusting to look at because they messed with Roo after they were in Hell.
>Viv confirmed that the casino is owned by HuskThat’s so fucking funny, guy goes and gets shit-faced and gambles all his money away at his own casino, and it must happen frequently too since his employee/slaves aren’t surprised at all and even have a whole song and dance number ready for him lmao
>>151642900He has owns all those cute cat themed sinners and is somehow still hung up on the faggot spider?
>>151642607I can believe it. I might be going crazy, but they're starting to subtly place Adam's silhouette in some places. I've seen many comments about it.
I unironically rooted for Vox and fail to see why I shouldn't. He should have won and become a happy dictator.
>>151642953I knew Adam had to be alive because his halo use to be in this state when he died, but it started glowing yellow again in season 2.Implying he is back and he isn’t resurrected as a sinner.What I was so confused on is why was Adam looking over Vaggi in particular, but with the tease of dead Exorcists becoming sinners, and Adam actually being one of the few people to care about them. It would make so much sense if he was gathering up Sinner Exorcists and watching Vaggi close-by in case she died too.There is a lot going on that’s it’s really hard to set it all down neatly. That before we can go into Sinner Exorcists, the Exorcists being fallen demonic angels would have to be explored first and that would likely be a part of Lute’s down-spiral, since she’s supposed to be the peak example of this horrible existence.And when Lute does blow uo because of her severe depression and hopelessness, Adam would be forced in the position of revealing himself and securing her in front of a very very very angry crowd of angels. And Lute would have a much harder time processing all of this madness.
I like to think that Vox and Val roleplay often when they're intimate. It's pretty obvious Vox has mommy issues, and Val definitely fills that gap. Honestly I'd want to be babied by Val too lmao
>>151642930>still hung up on the faggot spiderCan someone actually explain what he sees in him without mentioning lust or pity?
>>151641545I kinda hope that Angel Dust will overcome his fear and depression and realise that he gets along with the Vees after his character development. I want to see his chemistry with the antagonists when he isn't miserable and it would be more interesting if he eventually chose his own path instead of waiting to be saved by Charlie.
>>151641631So it's the Starscream fandom all over again?
>Angel Dust gets redeemed>ascends to heaven in a pillar of holy light>Charlie crying: “I’m gonna miss him…”>a minute later, Angel Dust walks back in through the hotel door> “Yeah, turns out they didn’t appreciate me offerin’ to suck saint Peter’s dick under his podium at the gates, so I’m back here”
>>151642254It's either 1. because he was only perceived as the most powerful sinner by everybody after Charlie said so, without necessarily being the no. 1 (and the deal with Rosie breaks regardless because everybody believes so) OR it's just because Vox lost his shit after "losing" Alastor. He was suicidal in the end and basically wanted to blow himself and everybody else up since he stopped caring. Too inattentive and shizo to be unbeatable.
>>151641602They didn't need to make him so cute.
>>151641631The Adamfan meltdown over that flashback was more entertaining than half of season 2.
I hate Charlie's girlfriend so much for stealing my girlfriend!
If we're only getting 8 episodes again S3 have to address.>Angel Dust>Huskerdust>The Vees >Lilith/Eve>Lute>New characters >Alastor's Plan>Whatever the fuck Rosie is>Redemption(s) being fast tracked or the climax of the Angel's arc>Luci being fraudulent We just don't have enough breathing room.
>>151643563As an Adam fan, I’m confused why there are mad that Adam’s actual experiences in the Exorcists is traumatizing for everyone involved aside from Lute.
>>151643650>Lilith/Eve>LuteSeperated at first, converges into a final climax alongside Abel and Zestial/Cain.With Lute essentially being Eve’s most powerful puppet.>Angel Dust>Huskerdust>The VeesAngel Dust is the celebrity promoting Eve the most. And Eve uses the Vees to reach across Hell and then Heaven to sing her demon-empowering songs to push the war against Heaven.Husk and Cherri come in to save Angel Dust and shut this critical section of Eve’s power. Reducing the battlefield back to Lute, Zestial, Abel, Eve’s environment.>Alastor's Plan>Whatever the fuck Rosie isAllies of Charlie and also mean.
>>151637461>Again, where is this even implied?She would be able to if she knew how to properly use her powers simply by virtue of her being a Seraphim, the highest tier of angels.>but the shield hell did withstood the explosion of the machineBlowing up a city is a lot less impressive than shattering the Heavenly Barrier to be honest.
>>151642254Like another anon pointed out, Vox seems to have some ability to boost his power based on his popularity. However it is worth noting that the entire time Alastor and Vox are fighting, Vox tries to simply overpower Alastor, and the latter needs to actually be more strategic and outmaneuver Vox to stay in the fight.
>>151628835>>151628987I NEED MORE
>>151642571I wouldn't be surprised.
Please post the cute FAT angel boy, I need to see him one more time.
>>151643212>PityYou mean sympathy? Or empathy more like considering they literally spell it out in their duet that they're both slaves to their vices and enslaved to huge assholes.Past that, Husk does say that Angel has the best shot of being redeemed and seems to respect him for that.
>>151642571>>151645058Abel probably had a GF Zestial/Cain took as insured by the myths.
>>151645593This one?
Honestly, after watching Hazbin, Anime is so fucking boring to look at.
>>151636672Anon, 'why doesn't the show explain that somebody who's naturally strong but doesn't use it would eat shit against somebody who's a plucky underdog' is a silly question. It's some basic, self-explanatory shit. Stolas, a Goetia, is demonstrated to be extremely powerful if he wants to be (see his manifestation on Earth), but he still gets captured by an imp bounty hunter. Lucifer is strong enough to vaporize all of the Pentagram in like a minute of effort, but he got outwitted and caught by Vox. It goes on and on with other example, but ultimately it's just a basic, obvious thing, because only powerlevelers view thing as 'higher power level = always betterer and shouldn't lose'.Vivzie doesn't bother with a lot of very necessary things, but this one feels like a stretch.
>>151642254>I have the biggest ray beam, so I'm the strongest! DB made some irreversible damage to a whole generation. No, actually, even DB had some droplets of strategy here and there, people saying "he's the strongest so he must win" are simply autistic
>>151646671The problem with DB is that the villains in every arc basically have stronger and stronger super armor that the only way to beat them is by leveling up.And this wasn’t an issue in old DB because humans and Piccolo were actually relevant threats and Goku defeated them uniquely and reasonably.
>>151646671no, that's not the pointit's lame to have the whole season about alastor trying to get vox stronger than him, and then they immediately fight and alastor winsit's bad writing and makes alastor look even more like the creator's pet than he already does. There's no meaningful strategy involved, alastor just uses his dbz powers better than vox and wins because of course he wins he's alastor. Vox doesn't really come across as stronger, just slightly bigger than the last time they foughttotally different from the lucifer situation where lucifer actually gets outsmarted.
>>151646717We literally see Vox outpowering Alastor at the beginning and Alastor outmaneuvering him in the middle at take advantage of it. Really, this show needs a commentary for retards explaining shit instead of subtitles
>>151646717> Vox doesn't really come across as stronger, just slightly bigger than the last time they foughtHe honestly does.But the problem is that he’s too egotistical and short-sighted on using the strength he has appropriately. While Alastor had about almost a century to wield his powers and knew how to use them appropriately. Vox and Shokwave were still horrifying for Alastor to deal with and he was so badly weakened that he couldn’t even get up when Vox was about to shoot him with his laser.Vox was weakened when Alastor was at his lowest point and would’ve been brutalized by Vox if it lasted a minute more.
>>151646751Hazbin Hotel fans are not even smart enough to handle that because they hate learning.
>>151646788The one who keeps whining about Vox not being Gogeta is a hatafag, though
>>151646822What is a Hata?
I honestly wondered how Vox's first fight against Alastor went before Alastor disappeared for seven years, seeing that even at his best, Vox was losing against an Alastor without his staff and wounded by Adam.
>>151646842Look at Vox and Val.
>>151645686That sounds more like a father figure though.
