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There’s an uncomfortable amount of millennial faggots who act like "the holidays suck everything about them sucks" and pushing that message with shit like that new McDonalds AI ad that just acts all cynical and shit.

These timeless specials like the Grinch and that one "poor misguided folks" scene in Santa Claus is Coming to Town taught us that Christmas is about joy, love, happiness, and giving rather than commercialization, but it seems a lot of people forgot that and are a bunch of joyless nihilistic fucks.
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the AI ad was so painfully retarded of an idea
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>>151636660
>There’s an uncomfortable amount of millennial faggots who act like "the holidays suck everything about them sucks"
No one thinks or says this
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>>151636660
Millenials and Zoomers were encouraged to entirely cut off their relatives over political nonsense.
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Nobody cares about your reddit holiday
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Disney also tries to tell us it's about love and family, but Disney Corp. very clearly is in it for the commercialism.
Just because there is a wholesome message to be spread does not mean it can't be wielded in a predatory fashion.
Final Thought: We've lost a lot of community and third place, and it's hard to even find an outlet for Christmas cheer. The only Christmas presents I'm likely to gift outside of family/gf went to two randos from /tg/ Secret Santa.
A loving Christmas environment is predicated on good friends and cheer. That feels harder to come by in fractuous times. I doubt Depression Era Christmasses were that holly or jolly either.
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>>151636710
Stop being so cynical and lighten up.
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>>151636718
A Christmas Story is about a depression era Christmas.
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>>151636727
Not familiar but I believe you
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>>151636660
LatinAmerican anon here, I find it funny that the original dub of the short localized some of the lines when the Grinch's heart grows with a strong literal Christian message, even though the story itself is not about religion but the overall positive aspects of Christmas as a holiday.
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https://youtu.be/E-YwjXEVGo8
KEK
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>>151636735
I'm cheating slightly it's 1940.
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I absolutely loathe how The Grinch has become a part of Christmas mythology. It’s like seeing facebook Minions posting IRL.
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>>151636660
>Implying holidays aren't primary for stuffing your belly with disgusting slop like every american does daily
Can americunts please explain why they need a separate holiday that's only 6 days apart from another holiday that's essentially the same fucking thing? You can't, gluttonous fucks pretending to be virtuous.
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>>151636660
Holiday cheer comes from within and the people you surround yourself with. You cant/shouldnt expect outside forces to make you feel holly and jolly this time of year.
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>>151636786
It used to be a regional thing.
Thanksgiving is a damn Yankee holiday cuz they're too puritan for Christmas.
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>>151636660
Christmas is a pagan marketing stunt that has nothing to do with christianity on any level
Santa Claus is litterally a characfer made up by coca cola to sell soda
Christians are supposed to treat easter like how we treat christmas now.

It's like...how the months are all fucked up for no discernable reason.
That 28 day months with april 1st being the first day of the new year makes not only logical sense it more links to womens's menstruation(women who aren't poisoned by hormonal birth control)and how it's linked to the moon.
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>>151636767
He's gotten so hypercommercialized that even the anti-materialist messaging gets slapped onto cheap crap at Hobby Lobby and Wal-Mart.
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>>151636871
Not one thing you said was true.
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>>151636660
Yeah, but now there's tons of Grinch merch and they use the Grinch to shill for Walmart+
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>>151636886
kek thats so fucked up
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>>151636888
EVERYTHING I said is 100% true.
Dumbass.
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>>151636707
Boomers and Gen X were encouraged to disown and cut off their children for being gay or dating outside of their race. Kill yourself.
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>>151636897
Coca Cola only co-opted Santa Claus. The most you could say is that they fully cemented the red suit since Red Santa and the Father Christmas-based Green Santa were used interchangeably beforehand.
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>>151636897
Santa is St. Nick.
"Coke invented Santa" is some Steven Untermensch "a black guy invented the lightbulb" level playing fast-and-loose.
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>>151636707
Millennials were encouraged to blame boomers and disown them just because they were not given everything on a silver platter
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>>151636897
They are common midwit takes but they are not true.
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>>151636871
>>151636897
Hell yeah anon, dont ever let facts get in the way of making yourself unhappy.
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>>151636718
>I doubt Depression Era Christmasses were that holly or jolly either.
They at least go to spend it with people they loved and cared for. Now most people would rather just spend it alone, or are spending it alone because they no longer connect with anyone. I'm in that boat right now, I don't have anyone that I even remotely care for and I hate this world. I really don't have any motivation to even try anymore.
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That scene from Santa Claus is coming town really does seem all relevant in today’s world.

>"Poor misguided folks, they’ve missed the whole point, lots of unhappiness? Maybe so, but doesn’t Santa take a little bit of that unhappiness away, doesn’t a smile on Christmas morning stretch out a tear cried on a Saturday? Not much maybe, but what would happen if we all tried to be like Santa, and learned to give, as only he could give, of ourselves, of our talents, of our love, and our hearts, maybe if we all learn Santa’s beautiful lesson, maybe there will finally be peace on Earth and goodwill toward men."
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>>151636935
Fag
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>>151636660
It's actually worse. People are so used to "the villain wasn't actually the bad guy" shit that they've begun thinking that the Grinch was just ostracized and alienated by Whoville because they were racist and bigoted, and that means they deserved to have their stupid Christmas ruined.
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>>151636970
retards like you do deserve to have everything ruined though
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Not to defend the AI slop ad but I understand the sentiment of "Thank fucking god I'm in a neutral public space and not doing holiday shit" sentiment completely.
There's so much obligation tied up in the holidays. A thread like this is actually a pretty good example, it's an active problem if you're like "god i'm not in the mood for this right now." You need to shop for every member of the family taking part in the festivities and there's social performance involved in that. You need to be emotionally available for get-togethers. You need to physically travel to see them. You need to be in the precise mood for corny christmas specials and the same repetitive songs you've heard every holiday season since you became a self-conscious being. Shit can be so exhausting that a moment where you're just sitting in a cafe can feel like a genuine reprieve.
>oh those are all nice things though you should want to do those things
yeah not for me bro that's the point
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>>151636984
Ok, tranny
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>>151636985
Someone is looking to be visited by three spirits
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>>151636984
What do you think the message of How the Grinch Stole Christmas is supposed to be. Amuse us, retard.
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>>151636985
All human relationships are based on obligation.
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>>151636886
Not to mention when they made a movie where they turned the Grinch into an "oh my God so quirky and relatable he hates holidays, drinks coffee, stress eats, and lives alone with his dog just like me" millennial icon, advertising him with fellowkids shit like those billboards and "when guac is extra" memeslop.

Even worse was that shitty Wallmart ad that shat on the books whole message.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XRQboPpefsY

Heck, I’ve seen new live action Whoville wallmart ads from this year where they continue to commercialize the Grinch. The Seuss estate doesn’t give a shit about the messaging of the books, seeing how they also contradicted the Loraxes message by using the movie to sponsor gas guzzling cars.
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>>151636970
That was the Jim Carrey Grinch you mongloid, and is only seen that way because more people actively watch that one instead of the 2d one
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>>151637032
Do you not know how to read?
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>>151636660
I'm a millennial and I fucking love holidays, especially Christmas. I think most millennials do.

Generation wars are stupid. People ought to lay off boomers too.
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>>151636970
/pol/ has legitimately rotted your brain.
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>>151636943
People care about you and hope the best for you.
So you should hope for the best for yourself.

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>>151636916
I know. The accepted form was from coca cola I recall. I guess I accepted the rumor as fact without doing research.

The other thing is right though. Sadly enough.
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>>151637022
to varying extents, being obligated to spend time with someone that you truly do not like it all to keep up appearances is not the basis for a healthy relationship
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>>151636959
>people are "encouraged" to blame the source of problems
Typical millennial victim complex
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>>151636747
What kind of nihilistic streetshitter generates an ad like this? Ah yes "Christmas sucks cause of some common inconveniences that everyone goes through, come to McDonalds and buy some burgers instead", like yes the holidays have tons of mess-ups and dumb shit, but it’s this kinda stuff that eventually leads to joy and having a good laugh about said inconveniences, this ad is blatantly telling you to just ditch everything about the holidays and give into commercialization.
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>>151637024
Dr. Seuss's mistress widow is a money grubbing whore and the wrong one died of cancer.
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December means a lot of things to a lot of people. I think people are entitled to feel good OR bad about it if they want to so long as they aren't being dicks about it.
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None of them compare to A Junky’s Christmas
https://youtu.be/u6kHN92Yv48?si=uxnmv2xg9PO5vBuA
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I have a kid and young nieces so my wife and I actually make an effort to make to make the holidays a special time of year. Tree is up, we took them to a light show, yesterday we foraged for greenery to make a wreathe. Billions MUST touch grass.
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>>151636707
This and to not have kids.
When you have kids the Holidays become way more special again.
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>>151637311
>OMG babies fix everything!!!
No, they do not. And a lot of people really shouldn't have kids.
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>>151637324
it's incredible how many parts of life are ruined by the fact that people who are suited for the job reconsider out of prudence and people who are not suited for the job go full steam ahead
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>>151637324
>And a lot of people really shouldn't have kids.
Except for N’Gunbju. We need strong immigrant families so line goes up.
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>>151636710
>Reddit, well known for its atheism
>Christmas, the most famous religious holiday on earth
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>>151637346
>He thinks modern christmas isn't just yet another consoomerism day
lol, kek, lmao
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>>151637346
Christmas is an entirely secular affair. At this point Jesus is as superficial as the pagan Jul aspects of it, and atheists celebrate it all the same. It’s not 2007. Fedoras aren’t a boogeyman.
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>>151637324
I notice the only people making this claim don't have kids.
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>>151637372
>Christs Mass is an entirely secular affair.
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>it's a zoomer deflecting episode
will you guys ever accept that you're the problem here
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This thread reeks of bots
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>>151637495
They're incapable of it, name one time a zoomer has accepted their culpability in literally anything.
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What is there to Christmas other than gift giving and commercialism?
The Christian aspects were removed by the Jews, and the pandemic made everybody realise their families suck. I think I'll keep watching my favorite Christmas specials and episodes, thanks.
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>>151637467
>Jul blot is a secular affair
Materialism has consumed the holiday. Cope. Not a single person I know disbelieves in God and it’s literally still an afterthought for the purpose of the holiday.
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>>151637452
>I notice the only people making this claim don't have kids.
Why yes, I DO think people just wise enough to know that they'd be bad parent but not motivated enough to become a completely different person overnight would notice that not everyone is suited to make a lifelong commitment to a baby.
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>>151636911
> for being gay
Reasonable to avoid them, they seek to degrade, violate, corrupt, humiliate, etc everybody in their lives to make themselves feel good. However hope is held out that they will change
“Cut off” inheritance? They did that by choosing not to have children. It’s for furthering the family, not hedonism
> dating outside of their race.
You retardly follow news narratives with no actual life experience. Millennials are way more racist than boomers.
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>>151637525
You'd be surprised how much better of a person you become when you have to care for something other than yourself for a change.
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>>151637599
So how's the divorce going, champ?
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>>151637599
I get up a lot earlier than I would have because I have to feed the dog.
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>>151637612
>ad homoman
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>>151637599
Only if you're a sad empty sack of a person with no goals or motivation to begin with.
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>>151637638
>not a denial
>fallacy fallacy
shiggy diggy
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>>151636956
This, 100% this

Sad to see kids of this generation didn’t learn shit from Santa’s story and instead just see him as the man that gives them Xboxes.
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>>151636710
What's a reddit holiday?
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>>151636660
Let's be frank. The real reason the Grinch hated Christmas was because the literal who's wouldn't fucking shut up about it. Even in the book he states "all the noise, noise, noise!" Which implies the who's were pretty lousy noisey neighbor. Even if he did throw all the Christmas stuff down the mountain, the who's were still going be noisey. The Jim Carrey live action film made a whole lore based on loud & nousey the who's were about Christmas.

Younger you is thinking Grinch was wrong. Older you is realizing the Grinch was right. He should have thrown out those Christmas stuff then nuked Whoville.
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>>151637612
I wouldn't know, I'm still married.
How's mom and dad dealing with you still living at home?
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>>151636727
>>151636943
Yeah I think I beefed it on that last sentence. Hoovertown Christmasses probably had a sad warmth to them.
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>>151637664
Pride Month
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>>151637663
To learn from Santa, you have to have something to give. A huge portion of them have nothing, they're shells with very little if anything inside them. They live online, they sleep in their parents homes, they do just enough at school and/or work to keep going without standing out or being disciplined. There is no drive, no motivation, no passion and they learn no skills or trades. What have they to give?
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>>151637721
>I wouldn't know, I'm still married.
Your tulpa doesn't count, Anon.
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>>151637738
I don't even know what a Tulpa is.
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>>151637781
A fancy imaginary friend that's a bit harder to get rid of.
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>>151636959
anon I know this is a hard pill to swallow but your dad voting or not voting wasn't going to change what paid politicians were going to do on either side of the aisle.
In 40 years time they'll blame you for the actions of businesses and politicians too and ask why you did nothing and allowed things to get worse.
Hell zoomers already do.
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>>151637341
We live in idiocracy.
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>>151636660
My uncle was in jail on battery charges for hitting his son over a christmas card "not being good enough" 15 years ago. The holiday has been ruined for a long time.
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>>151637024
That movie was made in 2004, when most of us millennialls were like 12. We didn't hate Christmas; that was just ol Jim trying to give a bit gravitas to the character.

>>151637231
If you like Dr Suess then you shouldn't be going that far. I mean criticism is criticism but damn son.
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>>151637781
Deliberately giving yourself a mental illness.
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Don't even care about commercialization. It's just when you have holidays revolving entirely around joy and love and all that good stuff it only reminds me how sad and lonely my life is. There's a reason why people neck themselves around Christmas time and it's not cause of capitalism or some shit.
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>>151636660
Gonna be honest, I haven't been feeling the Christmas spirit these past two years. Can't say it's because I'm an adult because I have been one for the past decade and a half and have enjoyed the holidays throughout.
Not sure why this is happening now
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>>151636718
>>151636943
Actually, it was probably perfectly fine. Pretty much every culture had some kind of winter holiday season dating back to the BC for precisely the fact that winter is the harshest and cruelest time of year. That's why they all have the customary niceness and kindness. The whole point was that winter was when people were likely to spontaneously drop dead. With anyone being close to death, kindness becomes the goal in being pleasant for what could quite possibly be their final memories. Thus it became an exercise in "warming" each other.
Look at 2020, the worse off a year, the better the Christmas.
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>>151638118
Try doing something new for Christmas this year.
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>>151638118
It's Satan weakening your soul
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>>151636660
>"the holidays suck everything about them sucks" and pushing that message with shit like that new McDonalds AI ad that just acts all cynical and shit.

Yeah they have been at it since the early 00s. There has been this No Fun allowed misery cult that bitches and screeches about the Commercialism Holiday for a few decades now and they are just fucking annoying.
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>>151637664
A holiday that’s about being A DECENT FUCKING HUMAN BEING (Christmas)
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>>151637916
>2004
*2000
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Protestants be like
>Christmas is about being nice and stuff!
Instead of saying it's about the Nativity. All these "Christmas" specials whine about where did the Spirit go when it was always about the birth of Jesus Christ.
There, solved it for you.
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>>151637916
I was talking about the 2018 Grinch retard
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>>151638216
>Being a decent person is le bad
Grow the fuck up. Maybe if you were more well rounded you wouldn't be a lonely virgin
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>>151638299
I’m literally >>151637308
Have some humour, you spastic.
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>>151636707
See >>151636911
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People have been bitching about the death of the spirit of Christmas since goddamn Dickens. The problem is faggots have a romanticized expectation of what Christmas ought to be so when it’s not a literal magic day, they get depressed.
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>>151638182
Its not even just the holidays. Fucking everything is infested with these fags who are so determined to be miserable and drag everyone down with them and its exhausting.
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>>151638291
I hate to disappoint you, but Jesus was not born in December. He was born in autumn, not winter. Dec 25th is birthday of Saturn
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>>151638367
Before him actually.
G.K. Chesterton wrote a little short story about it, he meets Father Christmas in a pub and remarks that he looks sickly. The Dickens and and other historical writers come into the pub and remark that he looked that way when they were young too.
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>>151636660
Fuck Christmas
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>>151638399
It was picked because very early theologians believed that all righteous people died on the same day they were concieved.
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Facebook millennials be like "OMG 2018 GRINCH SO RELATABLE LOL"

Meanwhile I can moreso relate to characters like these.
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THE GRIRCH

shooshee shoo shee

no one ask why
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>>151638420
Fuck you
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>>151636956
Merry Christmas to all, except that one particular group of people.
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Yeah i enjoy the material parts of the holidays enough but really it's just an excuse to see my family which is all i really want
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>>151637345
No, we need them dead. We need white people to breed in small amounts and we need Africa, China, and India to all be entirely depopulated.
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>>151636660
lol who hash
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>>151637893
I was expecting a soijack to pop out
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>>151638475
Whos are cannibals?
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>>151638469
Why are you fags so scared of china?
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>>151636911
Well 2 valid reasons to cut someone from your life - mental illness and race traitors
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I’m surprised that there hasn’t been any Christmas classics made in the past 10 years? Like I’m talking the kinds of movies you always see aired on tv during the holidays, like of course you got your timeless classics like Rudolph and the Grinch, the 90’s films like Home Alone and Jingle all the Way, the 2000’s classics like Jim Carrey Grinch and Elf, but the 2010’s hardly has any movies like that, the only ones I can think of that are always aired around this season are the Illumination Grinch and Arthur Christmas.

I have a feeling that if Klaus wasn’t a Netflix film it would be hailed as a classic and constantly aired on tv around this time.
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>>151638568
The level of Christianity in the public sphere post-Dubya is low enough that Jew producers don't see a need to psychically torture themselves with producing unironic Chr*stmas stuff anymore.
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>>151638568
>I have a feeling that if Klaus wasn’t a Netflix film it would be hailed as a classic and constantly aired on tv around this time
Prep and Landing feels the same way trapped on Disney+.

Although I prefer to have the full versions of the classic specials available instead of the broadcast ones. They cut out so much for ad space.
I didn't know until I was a man grown that the future Mrs Claus has an entire song in Santa Claus is Coming to Town.
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>>151638424
You're only half right. Christmas was originally outlawed by Christians because it was a day of degeneracy. The Catholic church wanted to convert many Pagans. So they incorporated all the Pagan traditions of Saturnalia (the real name of the holiday). Which is why the Catholic church chose Dec. 25 as a day of worship.

Christmas is in actually a luciferian Satanic Nimrod worship of the god Saturn. The Christmas tree is phallic symbol & all the presents around the tree represents a vaginal symbol. It's a symbol of reincarnation of the Winter Stare God aka Saturn. The Yule log used to be a ritual of child satrices to Yule & Baal.

If you actually know your Bible you would know that it forbids Christmas & Christmas rituals
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>>151636660
Wait, you mean the holiday with the beloved mascot invented by Coca Cola to sell carbonated poison slop to idiots has been corrupted?!?!?
But our corporate overlords commanded us to worship and adore the Coca Cola advertising mascot!!!
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>>151636727
It took place in 49.
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>>151638667
It's modern version of the god Saturn. The reindeer was originally Krampus, which was demon that took & ate bad children. Krampus was a slave golem of Nicolas. Our ancestors were warning us about the Jews even in December. Kek.
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>>151636786
That is what EVERY American holiday is about. Forcefeeding themselves into a diabetic coma. And they celebrate how fat and disgusting they are as a people.
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>>151638739
No the war is never mentioned and the Orphan Annie decoder ring is from 1940.
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>>151636888
Wrong

Santa Claus was a marketing gimmick by jews who bastardized the name of a Dutch holiday to form the name of an ad mascot. They took Sinterklaas and turned it into a name so they could sell coke to fat americans. There was no such thing as a Santa Claus before Coke decided to invent an ad mascot in the 20th century.
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>>151636911
Yes? and what's wrong with that?
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>>151636911
Based & redpilled. That's actually a good thing. Date your own kind & don't be a faggot. It's really simple.
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>>151637188
It’s funny how this AI ad acts like McDonalds is a good place to escape from the chaos.
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>>151636916
Lies to excuse the fact that Santa is a Jewish plot to eradicate a Christian holiday and millennia old tradition.
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>>151638667
And Rudolph The Red Nose Reindeer was created by Montgomery Ward.
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>>151638775
I hate you so much.
You couldn't even be bothered to look it up.
Thomas Nast drew this Santa in fucking 1863.
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>>151638805
>>151638818
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>>151638805
There's nothing Christian about Christmas. It's Saturn Nimrod worship. Of course the Jews approve. They worship Saturn.
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>>151638805
I am going to beat you to deat.
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>>151638838
Stfu, schizofaggot
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>>151636911
...and that's a good thing.
If you learned the lesson you wouldn't be such a miserable faggot alone on holidays.
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>>151638818
>It's true, my liberal elitist multi-ethnic anti-american friends who are totally not trying to revise history told me so!
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>>151638505
Fuck off, chang
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>>151638426
Willie is me in the future, not the smoking and criminal activity parts but the general demeanour.
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>>151638818
>>151638838
I don't know why you want to be ignorant and keep the illusion alive so badly. It has been a well documented fact that Santa Claus is in fact a Jewish plot to eradicate an important Christian holiday and replace it with soulless commercialism through a soda company mascot that was invented in the 1920s.
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>>151638846
Santa is acronym for Satan.

Modern Santa's design comes from Saint Nicholas. Saint Nicholas's comes from Nimrod. Nimrod's design comes from Saturn. Saturn's design comes from Satan.

You're worshipping the Devil every time you deck the halls & decorate a pine tree, faggot.
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>>151638920
>>151638925
Keep seething, faggot
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>>151638920
I never did deny he was a Jewish plot. In a crazy, the story of Saint Nick & Krampus were meant to warn you about the Jews.
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>offtopic schizo thread
Mods are jerking off, I presume
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>>151638920
>1920s
You need to lurk more before posting. The entire Christmas tradition dates back to Ancient Babylon. Santa is a modernized version of Saturn.
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>>151638920
>>151638925
If you're gonna schizo about it, at least acknowledge the 1902 book by the Wizard of Oz guy about Santa Claus being raised by fairies and pagan gods
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>>151638986
>Ancient Babylon. Santa is a modernized version of Saturn.
Based retard
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>>151636956
Do ipad kids even believe in Santa Claus anymore? Whether you're an adult or a kid I feel like Santa is a huge contributing factor to holiday joy in general and many should follow his message rather than being joyless fucks. Seeing how iPad kids grow up so fast I wouldn't be surprised if they stop believing in Santa even earlier now, though to be fair, they are the same people who probably believe Skibidi Toilet can be summoned at 3am so who knows.

I get that kids are stupid but I'm kinda surprised that we still adhere to the elf analogy in a post-industrialized world, it's absurd to think that elves in his workshop are making Nintendo Switches and shit on wooden tables.
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>>151638988
Not your personal researcher.

I don't feel like wanting to type that much. I already gave you enough info on the lore of Christmas. There's plenty of info online about Santa's origins. Look it up yourself. Plenty of evidence supports my posts.
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>>151639006
I can confirm I at least know a 6 year old who believes in Santa although she seems to regard him as just some abstract superstition kind of the same way in belief in heaven and hell.
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>>151639006
That's why you had a sudden shift from elves making the toys to being Santa's tacticool spynet that helps him get the deliveries done.
That and the feds trying to get kids used to mass surveillance and privacy invasion.
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>>151637024
>Heck, I’ve seen new live action Whoville wallmart ads from this year where they continue to commercialize the Grinch.
tis it anything like this ad from the uk? because hearing the grinch say "wait, am i enjoying shopping?" has been driving me up the wall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTm48IWgXEA
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>>151639061
Then why insist that American Santa is exclusively a Coke mascot and not a group effort?
Unless the Coke Jews went back in time to pay Clement Moore to write the Night Before Christmas
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>>151639006
>I get that kids are stupid but I'm kinda surprised that we still adhere to the elf analogy in a post-industrialized world, it's absurd to think that elves in his workshop are making Nintendo Switches and shit on wooden tables.

It isn’t uncommon for modern Christmas movies to modernize the idea of elves, not only depicting them making modern toys, but depicting them as being highly advanced.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oLUmNV0tmMo

Children just headcanon whichever movie depiction of Santa and elves feels most right to them, as a kid I used to imagine elves scan houses because of Prep & Landing.
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Do normal adults even care about holidays at all?
I don't even celebrate my own birthdays, I don't give a fuck.
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>>151639256
Yes
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>>151639256
>Every other holiday besides Halloween
>Zzzz or okay.jpg
>Christmas: THESE ARE A FEW OF MY FAVORITE THINGS
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>>151638818
Coca Cola may have not invented the modern depiction of Santa but they 100% popularized it.

>>151638925
Come on, don’t be a schizo, learn to find joy in the holidays.
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>>151639314
When did that song get associated with Christmas?
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>>151639327
https://www.billboard.com/culture/lifestyle/my-favorite-things-christmas-sound-of-music-8078515/.
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How many of you actually, genuinely enjoy Christmas though?
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>>151639379
I haven't felt anything from Christmas since my grandparents died. Which was like two decades ago.
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>>151636660
Meaning of Christmas? What, buying gifts and giving them to people? People actually do that?
...do you seriously think I can afford to give gifts in this economy?
The ad is right, my money is better spent on fast food. I don't even know why we have this stupid holiday.
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>>151636871
>Christians are supposed to treat easter like how we treat christmas now.

I mean they kinda do? Easter is just diet Christmas, the Easter Bunny is just diet Santa Claus, tons of malls around them have men wearing bunny fursuits around April that aren’t even allowed to talk while kids sit on their laps, even as a kid I didn’t believe in the Easter Bunny that much because of that, at least high quality mall Santa’s look believable. I also don’t know if this was just a thing only my family did (I’m gonna assume it’s common to act like the bunny just layed plastic eggs of candy in backyards everywhere) but usually Easter morning we’d come downstairs to seeing Easter baskets full of some smaller-scale toys and eggs full of candy, truly a diet Santa Claus.
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>>151639459
>my money is better spent on fast food

Miserable fatass detected
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>>151636660
These people have always existed. They’re just mad about their shitty lives and so treat the holidays as some shallow celebration of consumerism while ignoring everything else about it to cope.
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>>151636786
>that's only 6 days apart
It’s a month you turd munching retard.
>You can't, gluttonous fucks pretending to be virtuous
Yeah i suppose enjoying a nice meal with your family and enjoying the bounty of wealth and fellowship is anathema to someone who lives in a slum and would gladly sell out his brother for a fucking quarter.
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Internet pagans are now indistinguishable from internet atheists.
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>>151639789
Oh please, you would literally eat your mother if she didn't cook your favorite chicken tendies
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>>151639793
I am a pagan and I still enjoy and celebrate Christmas. As it turns out it’s easy to keep your mouth shut and just enjoy the spirit of the holiday and family without going into some reddit tier lecture.
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>>151639801
Unlike you I don’t live with my mother. But good on you for not denying any of the other shit I said and just crying “no u” to cope.
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>>151639853
>Unlike you I don’t live with my mother.
You're not a very good liar
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>>151639877
I’m not lying, I’ve been very forthright with what I’ve been saying while you immediately got defensive and started projecting over the most basic resistance.
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>>151639899
>projecting
You're the one who decided to describe his childhood out of nowhere lmao
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>>151639931
>no u
If that was the case why did you not say this before or even deny it? You’re the one that was bitching about American Holidays being a glutton fest so how can I be that while also being a poor retard that can’t afford a can of soup? It’s very clear you’re just seething about getting called out.
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>>151638118
For me it's because I got laid off last year, and my financial situation is terrible. I also had to put my cat down on Friday
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>>151637346
The only religion christmas is about is capitalism, a zogged republican religion.
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>>151636911
Strange how in an era where parents are told they must encourage their kids no matter what the behavior, the suicide rate has quadrupled compared to your supposed era where parents were kicking kids out because they were prejudice.
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>>151639993
Why waste energy "defending" against some amerifat's buttery smooth brain seething when I'm right? You can't even fucking count lmao
>America brought up? NNNOOOO STOP IT I HATE BEING CALLED OUT REEEEEE
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>>151639822
This is fine.
I'm referring to morons who spend 24/7 bitching about Christians while not saying one positive word about their own beliefs. Makes you wonder if the former is what they're really interested in and not the latter.
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>>151639006
Back in the day, you always had that one kid by second grade who no longer believed in Santa usually because an older sibling ruined it for them.
I'd imagine the iPad kids are probably learning much faster entirely because they're seeing it talked about online.
>>151638986
Well >>151638139 said it best. The idea that any one holiday has a claim to being what would become modern Christmas is wrong because any culture where it got cold enough had a festival or something around "be nice to each other since any person could drop dead from plague or hypothermia at any given second"
That was just what the time of year dictated and it was all sort of just amalgamated into what we consider Christmas. Japanese Christmas for instance has an emphasis on couples because "love keeps you warm" and that's a carry-over from an earlier Japanese holiday.
That said. That's also another coca cola thing because the big emphasis became couples due to coke ads being their window into how the rest of the world supposedly celebrated and those focused in on couples ice skating and shit. Before that it was couples or parent/child.
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>>151639314
>>151639327
Weirdly for as bad as the politics based company wars fucking with Christmas is today, it was a lot worse around 2001-2002.

There were a few court battles by various churches fighting back against the 90s era removal of Religious figures from public places and all of a sudden a lot of stores and malls were not allowed to display Santa or Rudolph either. So Holiday shopping was broken down to really bland winter themed decorations and the music steered more for songs that did not mention Santa or Jesus at all like Sleigh Ride and My Favorite Things (which are still played most often in shopping areas today) Starbucks Holiday cups were just plain unadorned red. At best things could have a snowflake on them. But Santa was not allowed in a lot of cities, under this "It's only fair!" attitude since Jesus and Nativity was not allowed in a lot of cities too. Lots of malls did not have a mall Santa in them.

It kind of fell apart and towns started shifting their regulations around when the 00s recession started getting a bit worse and companies recognized that they just plain had more customers when there were big bright Santa banners draped around their stores in December.
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>151640241<<
Counting punctuation that's twenty. Try for fourty one next veiled cloak and dagger post. The worst of Spy vs Spy baby cakes. Are you listening 'Brad' I mattered and you profited by some psychotic wunderchilds coin flip obsession.

Lmao the bubblegum fuck headed girl supposes a chill down my back is intimidating. Shirai, Senbonzakura!
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>>151636911
I love how all the responses are unironic /pol/tards
We need good /co/ content stat to keep /pol/ in containment


>>151640226
I figured the suicide rate comes from how much people hate them for being themselves all because they like another guy and because they like someone who is a different race from them. You can still be gay and not be a degenerate and you can "preserve the white race" by having a relationship with a black person and not fucking them. Do better, /pol/
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>>151640138
If these things happened to a woman or a black person it would be more tragic. Just pick yourself up by the bootstraps.
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>>151640380
The suicide rate has exploded in direct correlation with the awareness and acceptance movement. Consider for a moment why that might be.
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>>151637649
Kek
>only if you're a millenial with no kid
So...proving his point?
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>>151636786
>self projecting fatty can only think about food during the holidays
>implying I didnt spend one Christmas with acid reflux, having to eat only toast yet still having an amazing time with family
Silence.
If you stopped pigging out maybe family and friends will invite you more, and you'd understand the true meaning of Christmas.
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>>151640433
>Only kids can give you motivation and goals
Thanks for proving how sad and close minded you are
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>>151637718
...and other fun things childless millennials like to say!
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>>151636786
>Can americunts please explain why they need a separate holiday that's only 6 days apart from another holiday that's essentially the same fucking thing?

Bitch that’s why December is called the holidays, the spirit lasts throughout all the fucking month and not to mention we also got the Christmas counterparts like Hanukkah and Kwanzaa, and how the fuck is Christmas similar to New Years Eve? Christmas is typically about joy and love spent with the family while New Years Eve is a free for all about partying and drinking with friends, and based on your lack of understanding the difference it doesn’t seem like you have any.
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>>151640439
>Even more projection and lies
Say something interesting already
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>>151637781
2016 oldfag moment
>>151638399
>April is autumn
Ok boomer
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>>151640470
Well you SEE on NEW YEARS I'm not restricted to stuffing my humongous belly with food and alcohol with my single mother THAT'S DIFFERENT YOU KNOW
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>>151640450
>I NEED to prove this anon right!
And you're doing a great job!
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>>151638420
>>151638433
Have a merry fucking shitmas >>151638568
Klaus is great for its animation and nothing else.
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>>151638818
That's like bringing up the fact that gooner isn't a modern word, completely misses the point.
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>>151640416
Why would someone kill themselves over having a loving boyfriend and a black queen?

Not to say that it's impossible to have a bad relationship with the same sex and a different race, but that shouldn't mean it's impossible to have a GOOD relationship with someone of the same sex and a different race just because God doesn't allow it or some shit.

It feels like God just fills your head with suicidal thoughts if you get a boyfriend for the lols

Seriously, show me proof that having a boyfriend and black girlfriend automatically gives you suicidal thoughts and why that happens

As for staying on topic, I have friends and family I celebrate Christmas with. It's certainly not as big of a deal as it was before but that's only because we've grown up and got adult stuff to do, and it's for the best because Christmas should be a time to unwind and be humble and give to friends and family whatever you can.
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>>151640241
So you realized that you failed and have to pretend that you don’t care to cope with getting btfo. Also post weight I probably weigh less than you.
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>>151640637
>So you realized that you failed
Made you reply ;)
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>>151639006
>Do ipad kids even believe in Santa Claus anymore?
Should they? Why did boomers normalize lying to their kids on such a grand scale?
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>>151640254
You say this as if 4chan christlarps have any actual identity beyond seething about leftists.
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>>151639071
>heaven and hell
>abstract superstition
What the fuck am I reading
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>>151640660
Looks like I mindbroke the thirdie so he has to pretend he’s trolling to cope. And no weight posted.
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>>151640676
Time to grow up early, manchild
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>>151640725
I think I've gotten a 10th type of diabetes just from 1 tear of yours, crybaby
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>>151640470
Thanksgiving and Black Friday are part of the holidays too, everyone says January 1st is as well but I can't agree with that at all. Nobody feels festive in the slightest on January 1st, it gives off the same vibes as the first day after Summer.
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>>151640822
New years is a dudebro and wine aunts holiday
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>>151640858
... Just like Christmas!
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>>151640380
Pol will save 4chan from the gay agenda
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>>151640881
Two more weeks of unhinged /pol/ ranting in literally every thread on this site until 4chan is saved! But no, it's actually over. If you came back here after seeing the leaks, you accept that things will not improve and that you're ok with it.
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>>151640380
If they gonna be soo shit being themselves id rather they suffer and pretend to be normal, suffering inside for our sake.
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>>151640943
What leaks this time?
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>>151640470
Haunnakah and Kwanzaa are lame, it makes me feel bad for Jews and blacks, why don’t they have a Santa counterpart? Russia has Ded Moroz, Belgium has Sinterklaas, France has Pere Noel, yet what do the other holidays celebrated in December by Americans have? Nothing.
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>>151641050
The 4chan one where we saw which countries were allowed to do what and the janny/mod logs that showed the real reasons people were getting banned. I stayed on dial8 for a while but I'm not waiting a week to get two responses in a cartoon discussion so it was back to the 4chan mines for me and everyone else.
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>>151636956
Millennials (really Zillennials) are stretched to thin or so underemployed that they don't have anything *to* give.
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>>151636786
Christmas
>Fuck yeah Jesus
>Give each other shit
>Holy fuck it's cold out

New Year
>(Honorary) birthday of the WHOLE FUCKING WORLD
>Just be there
>We survived another year
>Holy fuck it's cold out
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>>151641095
Jewish culture revolves around making people suffer in one way or another.
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>>151641151
Millennial/zillenial westerners were born with a silver spoon in their generation's mouth. It isn't that they have nothing, it's that all their needs are met so they can't think of what to give one another.
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>>151639071
So…. is it kinda like in Klaus where it’s implied that after Santa died he just became some kind of supernatural force that makes toys just show up in the houses overnight?
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>>151641212
b8/8
Zillenials are mostly broke (or in debt for education, which is worse than broke) and undermployed because boomers/gen X insist that they don't have a right to the nations they grew up in over imported or outsourced labor. Imagine telling someone in the 80's:
>You should expect to never own a house.
Then tell them
>But we will bring people from other countries and give them the means to own one over you, even if they do a worse job on average than you would have done, because it's more convenient for us. And we will tell you it's your fault.
>And if you aren't generous despite it, that's really you being spoiled.
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>>151641271
That's what gens y and z voted for so that's what they fucking deserve.
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>>151641290
There is no partisan solution to that problem (and boomers alone are over 1/3 of the vote, which means these problems are voted on by a significant portion of people unaffected by it.)
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>>151641144
Never heard it that.
Link?
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>>151639256
Holidays like Halloween, Fourth of July, and New Years Eve are fun to hang out with friends on, Thanksgiving, Easter, and Christmas are more family holidays.

I don’t think much adults really care that much about Valentines and Saint Patrick’s Day though, I guess adults date and shit on Valentines Day but they do that like any day of the year, and Saint Patrick’s Day is like News Years Eve but for middle aged men in the sense of how much they drink on it, the only people who care about the leprechauns and clovers part of it are kids.
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>>151641443
>>151641144
I would also like to see.
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>>151641459
Then you got your Dias De Los Muertos and Lunar New Years which places only decorate for cause they look cool aesthetically despite not knowing one person who celebrates that shit.
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>>151640257
>Back in the day, you always had that one kid by second grade who no longer believed in Santa usually because an older sibling ruined it for them.
And who goes out of his way to tell every fucking body on earth that Santa isn't real or any make-believe piece of media like its his soul duty.

>"THIS MOVIE IS FAKE, I CAN SEE THE STRINGS!!"
>"HEY GUYS, GUYS? GUYS?? Wrestling is fake!"
>*runs to the next classroom*
>"Wrestling is fake!!"

I'd like to think you can spot early depression in these kids. I bet they grow up as the people you see in porn comment sections that's on every porn site going "SHE'S NOT ORGASMING, ITS FAKE BTW". Goddamn these people are depressing, literal walking Doomer wojak meme.
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>>151636660
I love Christmas myself. I'm actually helping out at Christmas Eve Mass this year. And I have a big friendsmass thing next Saturday. And then Christmas day of course.
I love it. Though this year I'm separated from my family overseas which is a little hard. Not horrible, but I think about it as I walk around.
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>>151640684
>BUT WHAT ABOUT OTHER SIDE
Not an argument.
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>>151637372
>atheistcucks are hypocrites
at other news water is wet
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>>151636956
There's tons of people in this thread that legit act like the people in this scene holy shit.
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>>151641443
>>151641600
I'm not linking anything, you faggots. Go find it yourselves or post it for each other and see how quickly you're sent on vacay.
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>>151642298
Let's ignore all the homo republicunts who espouse christcuck ideals to the masses while acting like hedonistic and greedy kikes in private.
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>>151642244
Wrestling isn't fake, it's scripted.
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>>151636707
These old people should stop making our future actively worse through their ignorance or hate then. Fuck them. They'll be dead, and we're stuck in a rotting country with no bright future.
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>>151636890
>Grinch is shillin' for Walmart
>The Lorax was shillin' cars
Can't wait for the Sneetches to be the mascot of the KKK. Blank Lives Matter.
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>>151643088
You would do the same in their position.
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>>151638667
>the beloved mascot invented by Coca Cola
Genuinely why do so many retards believe this?
Buzzfeed articles?
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>>151643147
Why shouldn't we believe it? What's wrong with believing misinformation?
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>>151643178
You didn't answer the question.
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And because they don't care
what they make the Grinch say,
Walmart's wallet had grown
three more sizes that day.

https://youtu.be/IBSf11PnfL8?si=0mztUJVJOQxxB7kw
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>>151643147
Coca Cola didn’t create the modern appearance of Santa but they did most likely popularize it, I can see why this misconception happens.
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>>151643193
A piece of info is presented relatively confidently, people who don't know any better or feel like looking it up accept it. It's not rocket science.
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>>151636707
I once had an uncle openly say "Jews are horrible people" on Christmas and I still visit him every year, whether it’s good or bad weirder family relatives certainly bring something interesting to the table during the holidays.
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>>151643725
We're not talking about family whose politics you agree with, obviously
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>>151636703
I kind of think and say that. If you don't have family it's a month long reminder of all the things you don't have and won't get to experience again
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>>151643010
eh, homo republicans are actually pretty cool compared to homo democrats. latter is too catty and bitchy, but sometimes there's some cool ones.
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>>151636660
>Literally called Christs' Mass
>not one mention of Jesus Christ
Maybe if we actually remembered why we celebrate the holy days in the first place we could get into the Spirit of things.
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>>151644271
Neither of them are good imo
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>>151642244
>And who goes out of his way to tell every fucking body on earth that Santa isn't real or any make-believe piece of media like its his soul duty.
It's a knee jerk. The magic got ruined for them and now they feel like a conspiracyfag trying to expose the lie. I should know. I was that kid. My brother ruined it when I was fucking six.
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>>151644368
I just saw your post. Okay. So 1 anon has mentioned the savior.

We give gifts at Christmas time because Jesus Christ gave us the greatest gift of all, forgiveness and eternal life in heaven. We can not give each other such a gift, but we can still give gifts, spread cheer, and the good news of his word.
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>>151644554
Santa is just a stand in for Jesus anyway. Small children can't understand receiving Christ's gift, so until they can, we give them what Earthly gifts we can.
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>>151643048
Yeah and I followed the script by raping Kevin Nash in the sweltering hot summer or 92’
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>>151644588
It doesn't change that not believing in Santa comes at a specific time in a child's life. 3rd-4th grade is right around the time where a child starts contextualizing the idea that certain lies were told to them. More importantly, that the adults in their lives are willing to lie to them.
There's a non-hormonal element to the transition from kid to teen where a child begins to accept that the adults in their lives aren't these infallible moral paragons who can handle any situation and have all the answers.
While learning Santa isn't real early on won't do lasting damage on its own. The more lies they figure out before then the more issues with trust they develop.
I unironically was an atheist by 5th grade and that was partially because I had long since contextualized this idea of lies being told to make me behave a certain way and a sense of wonder being utterly destroyed from a young age, by my teens I was deep in conspiracyfag territory.
It didn't all start with "no santa" but "no santa" and being ostracized by my friends for not believing in him in second grade fucking helped. Fucking brother decided to be an asshole
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>>151644668
Have you ever considered just getting the fuck over it? Your parents aren't perfect. They never were. They undoubtedly made some mistakes raising you. Are you going to hold this against them forever and let it damage you?
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>>151644569
We give gifts because the Romans already had a holiday on the same day called Saturnalia where the tradition was to give wrapped gifts. The Catholics coopted the holiday and renamed it when the Romans converted.
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>>151644588
In Germany it's Jesus that brings gifts to people's houses.
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>>151644751
I've been over it, anon. Like I said, wasn't my parents, it was an older brother thing with Santa. But I was just saying the reason you see the kids who got spoiled on Santa act like such massive assholes over it is because it's basically the kid version of a major conspiracy to them. This forbidden information they weren't supposed to know yet.
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>>151636660
>Grinch teaches us Christmas isn't about consumerism
I can't walk into any store right now without seeing fucking
Grinch sweaters
Grinch cookies
Grinch ornaments
Grinch fucking breakfast cereal
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>>151637024
Every time I watch this I contract a new kind of terminal disease.
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>>151645130
The stores are bad students, that's all.
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>>151636660
>Christmas is about joy, love, happiness, and giving rather
Aren't you forgetting something?
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>>151636919
>t. Boomer missing the fucking point as usual
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>>151637553
Nigger always bringing the worst takes
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I can't even fathom angrily obsessing over a generation that had no hand in raising me to this degree
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>>151645369
...Presents?
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>>151645422
NO NOT PRESENTS FATASS!
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The whole "Santa Claus is a lie! You're hurting the child!" never made sense to me, and I think only comes from butthurt autists.
"Santa" is an anonymous persona we take on in order to give gifts without the expectation of anything in return. By assigning our name to a gift, we create an expectation. By saying it is 'from Santa', we experience the meaning of the season to just be generous to others. That's it. There is no 'lie', any more than my name isn't really 'Anonymous'.
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>>151645431
>butthurt autists.
More like butthurt preachers. Some act like they were beaten by a guy named Santa.
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>>151636707
Politics doesn’t matter and retards fight over it
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>>151636660
Didn't forget. They just don't care.
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>>151645430
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>>151645431
>give gifts without the expectation of anything in return
Why do you need to make up a person to do that?
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>>151645543
Reciprocation is common courtesy. Even if you broadcast that you want nothing in return, there is pressure in public that the gift be graciously received, if not returned in kind, to keep up appearances.
Gifting anonymously removes the social part of the equation entirely.
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>>151645543
Who the fuck cares, listen to >>151636956
and enjoy the goddamn season of joy
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>>151645577
>>151645543
I may have misunderstood the question.
Why specifically say a bearded man in a fur coat did it instead of just anonymously dropping a gift?
I mean it's not necessary, the actual St. Nicholas did gift anonymously. Probably one of those things that became a catch-phrase even after he died (oh a gift, bet St. Nick was at it again), then tradition.
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>>151637649
ironically, your goals and motivations die when you have kids
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>2025
>The holidays are about love and family and anti-consumerism. Paradoxically they are also about shared cultural symbols, mass media, and consumerism. It is a sordid dance of dissonance and increased suicide rates.

>1910
>Christmas is about the birth of Christ, family, eating a goose, and praying that Papa will survive the black lung another year. And making sure marginally fewer homeless people die in the cold for a month. And alcoholism.

>98 BC
>The Pagan Festival of Grunfuckhultjagadjn is about raping and sacrificing a captured Roman woman and her baby to appease the Gods. Also smearing blood on your penis but that's a yearly thing anyway.
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>>151645447
I have never once heard a single Christian preacher say a bad word about a literal Saint.
>BUT PROTESTANTS
Exactly.
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>>151645447
>jews coopt your religion to make big bucks
I'd be mad too
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>>151645848
It's called character development.
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>>151641257
I thought it was implied he met Klaus every year??
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>>151645848
Alcoholism should be on all three actually, that's just a human constant
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>>151638118
Honestly, for me, Christmas sneaks up on me because I'm so swamped with university work that by the time I realize it's going to be Christmas, I've got maybe 6 days.
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>>151644240
All pain is a cry for change and unless you take charge of that change, a bad change is all you'll get.
If you can't connect with the family, do what you can with friends. If you can't be with friends, consider doing some charity work or volunteering. If that's still too much and you're being worked to the bone and have no friends or family, now is the season to ask for help.
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>>151645968
not really unique to christmas though
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>>151637024
The animation in that ad is so good that I don't care about the message.
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A lot of the Christmas specials never felt quite right to me.

The original ending to Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer had the misfit toys completely forgotten, but they added a scene later making it an outlier. Everyone was kind of a dick to Rudolph for something that wasn't his fault, even Santa was a dick to him right up until he realized the glowing nose was useful.

In Santa Claus Is Comin' to Town there is no real resolution to the conflict. The Burgermeister makes the lives the townsfolk miserable and chases the Kringles out of town. Then later the narrator says the Burgermeister eventually died and the people decided his policies and laws were stupid and tossed them. This ending vexed me as a child and still does whenever I think about it. I get that no one wanted to show a people's uprising to remove a bad politician, but they could've also easily done it with him having a change of heart since he reacted positively when he was gifted a toy.

Jack Frost ends with king Kraus being blown away by Father Winter. What's to stop him from coming back? He didn't die. If he built a robot army once he can do it again and come back.
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>>151642244
There are so many things in our lives that are fake, but also real because we believe them to be so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPS5Yw_YsHA
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>>151636703
I do, but I have my own hang ups about them, so I don't try to bring everyone else down.
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>>151638505
Americans fear the setting sun of Empire.
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>>151646464
...And they all lived happily ever after!
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I'm not pro-choice. I'm pro-abortion. Sterilizing the population and only allowing people to breed once they have proven physical, mental, financial, and genetic capability would solve so many problems.
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>>151638768
they didn't tell their kids about the war back then. or much really. they decided they would live as sanitised, materialistic and bland a they could. substance abuse was common, amphetamines and booze. Alot of them didn't tell their kids about the war and what they did.
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>The whole "Santa Claus is a lie! You're hurting the child!" never made sense to me
HAW HAW! Well then, are you ready to learn about the evils of Santa from our lord and savour Jack T. Chick (pbuh) himself, /co/?
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To be fair I don't think telling Harry Santa's not real on Christmas morning after opening his presents is the best time.
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The Easter Bunny and Jesus, easily confused.
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The sad results of the belief in Santa to school shooter pipeline.
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Harry lacks "what's to stop me from becoming a god" energy.
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and now he's threatening to murder judges. All because of Santa.
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>>151645684
folk tradition, might have been a merge with odin, there's theological stuff to do with how saints and heaven have the ability to make the normally sinful world a little better through the Holy Spirit.
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Who's worse in Chick's eyes do you think, Harry or Osama? Pretty sure Osama at least believed in God.
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And there you have it /co/, definitive proof that Santa = Hell. Remember to only teach kids approved fairy tales that definitely aren't lies.
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Oh god, Chic tracks. Baptists ND's like Chick are pretty shit at theology.
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>>151642867
Either put up or shut your faggot face. No proof, no human rights for you
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>You told me Santa was real, when he wasn't? TIME TO GO ON A MURDER SPREE

Oh Jack chick. You truly are a literary artist.
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>>151637346
God I want to fuck Bugs
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>>151647498
He actually kills for the first time defending Santa's honor, which is even funnier.
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>>151642244
who is this semen demon
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>>151646464
I actually feel like Santa Claus is Coming To Town holds up as the best of Rankin Bass, Rudolph is a bit overrated, I feel like it’s a rather neat Santa Claus origin story and that was a fine way to send off Meisterberger. Though I feel like it’s worth noting that Rankin Bass got a bit weird in later years with stuff like Rudolph’s Shiny New Year and Christmas in July.
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What a awful thread. /co/ has been complete garbage this week.
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>>151636660
>who act like "the holidays suck everything about them sucks"
It's so obnoxious.
>>151636703
Lucky you. I have a friend who starting pretty much in October becomes the most miserable depressing faggot around.
>>151644240
He's basically this guy. Yet it's not good enough my family's taken him in since we were young and he hated his own family when they were alive. Totally ungrateful. You can point out all the plastic bullshit his neet bucks have got him, his eating habits, and personality that leads to him being miserable but you cannot make the suggestion to try to change and the spirit will follow.
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>>151636786
I'm so glad that in like 5 or 6 days I'll never fucking see posts from you again.
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>>151648825
>thinks they'll do it
Dont get my hopes up.
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>>151643226
Jim Carrey really did a number on the Grinch holy shit, there was also this shitty broadway horny ass Matthew Morrison Grinch that was absolute cancer.
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>>151648563
They didn't really send him off at all though. The Burgermeister sends people to harass the Kringles, they move up north to get away from him.
Then in a time skip they show someone taking his photo off of the wall and chucking it into the trash saying his rule eventually died out. To me, that's just narrativly unsatisfying.
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>>151636660

Christmas is highly satanic because it has SATAN ClAWS
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>>151650624
>Jim Carrey
Carrey didn't write the fucking movie.
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>>151649452
What's gonna happen in 5-6 days?
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>>151638620
Wait. Klaus dont air on tv stations?
It does in Poland.
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>>151650729
Santa’s gonna show up to his house and rape him for being a miserable fuck
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>>151651153
The license for something like that in the US is probably too expensive for any station to want to pay.
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>>151639006
Kids are not pushed to believe in santa because many parents think having a guy who decides what kid is good or bad its for horrible for kids. I somewhat agree as many kids bad doings are them just figuring world up.
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>>151639256
That sad. Birthdays are most personal of days. They should be cheered.
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>>151651227
>I somewhat agree as many kids bad doings are them just figuring world up.
Have you suffered a stroke? Smile for me
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>>151651244
NTA but im 33 and a man there is no real need for a birthday party
If I manage to hit 50 I can have another birthday party.
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>>151651283
Same. I mostly just use it as an excuse to go out an eat something nice with the family.



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