Why did critics portray this scene so dishonestly in their reviews?
>>151642677How did they portray it?
>>151642677What scene?
>>151642677We don't knownobody watched the movie
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>My...le bomb....
>We wuz became death, destroyer of worlds n sheeeit
Professional critics have always looked down on capeshit, and Eternals came out at the height of Martin Scorsese’s “capeshit isn’t cinema” discourse, which got many critics even more riled up. Add to that the fact Eternals was a genuine attempt at arthouse cinema that bucked under the pressure of the genre’s blockbuster trappings, and the blowback was inevitable. They just zeroed in on this scene because it allowed them to shit on the movie from a perceived moral high ground that it was making light of the tragedy of Hiroshima (nevermind the fact one of the X-Men movies literally had Wolverine in Nagasaki when the bomb dropped).Same reason they problematized the “adult stuck in a child’s body” character which is one of the oldest sci-fi tropes.
The Smartest
>>151642776https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HyVH8_kmKU>>151642757Like it was a travesty and a deliberate insult to the victims to feature Hiroshima in a superhero movie.
Just like everyone else I didn't watch the movie, but what did he actually think was the point of the bomb if not to blow shit up?
>>151642958>I thought they would use it as an energy source to catapult them into blah bla blah >The smartest>Doesn't give the world free energy from the Sun or Cosmic rays etc
>Magneto is permanently tied to an event involving mass torture and death>Everybody happy>Some literal who is tied to another event involving mass death from the exact same era in human history>Everybody mad
>>151642677>whaddya mean "three is too many"?
>>151642677It's a tremendously stupid scene
>>151642677this is the guy that invented farming for white peoplethanks marvel.
Did he also start sobbing when people used airplanes for 9/11?
>>151645096yes, only because he also invented aeroplanes
>>151644621I haven’t seen the movie but something movie apologists (see snydercult) don’t understand is that execution is way more important than intent. Like the Martha scene in Batman v Superman. Yes, everyone knows what the intent was but the execution was one of the silliest moments in movie history
>>151642851>Eternals was a genuine attempt at arthouse cinemaPlease tell me you're joking
>>151642677>I'm sure glad the president of Germamy listened to me, the new resocialization art program for juvenile delinquents is sure to work out, just look at young Adolf there>WHAT HAVE I DONE
>>151642851>defending the eternalslmao dude touch grass
come on nobody watched it
This movie takes itself too seriously and lacks confidence at the same time.Watch it again: it feels like a Marvel parody of a DC movie (and I mean that current DC style, post-Snyder DCEU) more than anything else.
>>151645149Oh look, is the retard seething about Snyder again. Later someone will make a thread talking about how the Snyder cultists are on every thread derailing them.
>>151642938>Like it was a travesty and a deliberate insult to the victims to feature Hiroshima in a superhero movie.Lets consider an hypothetical.Lets hypothetically make a movie in which Joker carries out 9/11.The joker laughs as he orchestrates 9/11 and taunts Batman about it. Afterwards Batman punches him and sends him to Arkham Asylum. End of movie.Do YOU think this could be seen as a cheap exploitation of a real life tragedy for the sake of shock value in a stupid superhero movie?At best it is just stupid, but it could very well be interpreted as needlessly exploitative.
>>151642677> Comicbook movie shows Hiroshima.> Auteur Christopher Nolan pussies out of showing it to coddle US audiences.Really makes your cogs rotate.
>>151645355> There is a refreshing lack of quipping.> There is no Whedonesque winking at the camera; it takes itself seriously, which requires real guts creatively. (Deadpool & Wolverine takes the cowardly approach by handwaving everything as a joke).> It actually looks cinematic.> Makkari is easily the best depiction of speed powers in cinema.> Kingo staying out of the conflict broke with capeshit cliche, which was refreshing.> Has a great music score.It's a deeply flawed movie (too many characters, making the deviants generic monsters, poor pacing), but Chloe Zhao was at least attempting to do something ambitious.
>>151646643Taking things seriously requires more courage and takes much greater skill to pull off.Anyone can make a tongue in cheek "lol look how silly this is" movie and use that to get away with lazy slop. Post-modernism is fucking cancer.
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>>151642677Lol I dunno
>>151642851>Professional critics have always looked down on capeshitNot if you make it about African KANGZ.Nominated for BEST PICTURE OF THE YEAR.
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>>151642851>Add to that the fact Eternals was a genuine attempt at arthouseYou don’t actually believe this do you?
>>151647336This just tells me you don’t know what arthouse cinema is
>>151647983American critics, europe and asia thought it was ok.
your all really mad that a black man is smarter then you all?
>>151650183>Literally no one brings up his race>"HURF DURF YOU JUZ DON LIEK DE BLACKS!"
>>151647983Fucking hell, it wasn't even a decent Black Panther or comic book movie.
Oh, wow. I forgot about this movie completely. I'll forget it again after I leave the thread so w.e
>>151646734It’s a cromulent comparison, anon. I’m sorry any sort of criticism of your God King makes you froth with rage. I wonder tho why Eternals didn’t get the same sort of “you just didn’t get it” support like BvS did. >directed by Chloe Zhao>ChloeOh I see now
>>151647336Those points just make it sound like a regular movie before the MCU turned everything into assembly line slop. Art house would mean it was just about two lesbians at a coffee shop or diner talking about their vaginas.
>>151650821Reminder the Academy Awards went out of it's way to not only nominate it for best picture, but they invented a brand new Oscar category called “Outstanding Achievement in Popular Film” with the intent of having Black Panther win it.But people complained that wasn't good enough for Black Panther; it should win best picture period. Then of course they got all pissed when "Marvelslop but with Africans" didn't automatically win just because it had black people in it.>The reasoning for the delay is obvious. Chadwick Boseman came right out and stated last week that Black Panther both was campaigning for and was artistically worthy of a Best Picture nomination as opposed to being the frontrunner for the “Outstanding Achievement in Popular Film” category. When the folks associated with the movie most likely to win your new award — a film from the studio seemingly intended to benefit from the new award — come out and state that they don’t want it, that’s not a good start for your new ratings-driven award.
>>151645355>>151650103Eternals was undeniably aiming to be more artistic and prestige than the usual Marvel fare, it just failed to achieve that goal.
>>151651632Has anything ever come out saying how that happened? My biggest bitch with MCU stuff is that they just grab Rick and Morty people to do big budget stuff they're completely not prepared to do but Chloe Zhao is a legitimate director
>>151643007Yeah, and considering he and the others have been living among the humans for millennia, he should've known people would use it for war...
>>151650933>Reminder the Academy Awards went out of it's way to not only nominate it for best picture, but they invented a brand new Oscar category called “Outstanding Achievement in Popular Film” with the intent of having Black Panther win it.Oh wow lmao
>>151647983>>151650933I also remember multiple outlets calling it one of the most diverse movies ever, despite it being one of the least diverse MCU movies to date.
>>151650933>Reminder the Academy Awards went out of it's way to not only nominate it for best picturePretty sure the move to best picture was after the blowback to the 'Popular movie' category.And honestly, even without BP, they probably would have tried it. The Oscars have gotten very self conscious about how little the general audience cares about Oscar Nominee movies.
>>151652671But it has black people!
>>151651680> My biggest bitch with MCU stuff is that they just grab Rick and Morty people to do big budget stuff they're completely not prepared to doThey get TV guys because they can be more easily bent to studio wills. They don't want another Edgar Wright situation.I think Chloe Zhao was actually attached to get them a 'real' Oscar nominee. I think Fiege at least mentioned 'maybe' trying to get an Oscar
>>151652671"Diverse" is lib-speak for "more black people".
>>151642677The whole fucking movie was stupid.>"We didn't help during any of the world-ending events because we're not allowed to interfere with human development.">immediately shows a flashback montage of them interfering with human development at literally every stage of history
>>151652671I forgot if they tried the “it’s the first ever superhero movie with a black character” shtick with this one.
>>151653876I know at least one outlet did, but I can't remember which one specifically, because I know that both Blade and Steel was brought up at the time.
The big reveal is that the Eternals are actually, to put it simply, pest control robots. Why do they need human bodies, personalities, and the abilities to fall in love and have sex in order to be pest control robots? Why do the Celestials lie to them about them being pest control robots? Just tell them "You are pest control robots designed to kill Deviants. Now... go out there and do that. Good luck!" Lying to them about their true selves serve no other purpose than pissing them off when they find out. Also the Celestials gave them the ability to get pissed off at the Celestials.And why would the Celestials want the Eternals to stay out of the fight with Thanos? Celestials are born once a planet acquires enough life forms on it. Thanos' whole MO was to kill half of all planets' life forms. Thanos should've been the Celestials' and the Eternals' #1 target. He's an immediate threat to the Celestials' way of life.
>>151653968I know, right? It's almost as if the script were bad or something.
>>151654050They don't even show a real celestial, just its elemental toy doll.
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>>151642677Just cause
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>>151643019X-men is explicitly jewish empowerment. The first movie starts with le hall-of-cost.Eternals was not jewish empowerment.Everybody mad.
>>151653968Screw that, heres the actual problem:These are effectivly planet sized gods.They refuse to perfom c-sections where instead the mother explodes at birth.And the climax of the movie is literaly an abortion.
>>151653968>they need human bodies, personalities, and the abilities to fall in love and have sex in order to be pest control robotsexactly
>>151642677>>151644621>>151645096>>151645149The scene is supposed to be this dramatic and emotional moment, but it just comes out as silly at best. I don't know how to explain it, it just feels childish and naive, for a lack of a better term, I guess.Also, I hate this shit, 'hurr humans are stupid, we had to spoonfeed them every single thing', as if humans were a bunch of babies and these Eternals were these oh-so-kind benefactors.
>>151658038Good game
>>151658250Explain.
>>151653844They did 1521 when they were forbidden from doing so by the Celestials and went their separate ways after the fall of Tenochtitlán.
>>151651680That seems like an exaggeration when they only had two or three Rick & Morty guys, all of whom were writers not directors, and one was even an established Marvel writer with a pretty good rep.
>>151658606>>151658298Just a reminder that he was sad because human weapon technology had grown to the point that humans could potential kill themselves off, which would make the whole sacrifice thing impossible (or at least delay it by millions of years.) The whole thing was just weird and didn't fit with the tone of the film. I did enjoy the WMAF sex scene though.
It was poorly handled and in bad taste
>>151660513I have no idea what youre talking about. I just came in to play tic tac toe
>>151653968Celestials arent perfect in their designs, thats why deviants exist in the first place.
>>151660513Sersi is a smoke show, this nobody can deny. Also was this the first on-screen sex scene in a MCU movie? They are pretty sexless films overall.
>>151658298>'hurr humans are stupid, we had to spoonfeed them every single thing'I fucking despise the lazy trope where either aliens, immortals or time travelers basically invented 'everything' and humanity is just along for the ride.
>>151650933Beauty and the Beast all over again. Fucking Aca>>151653779demy.
>>151642677>Helps America develop nuclear bombs during WWIII honestly can't imagine what other result he thought was even possible.
>>151661307listen, hes black. so he obviously knows something you dont.
>>151658606Nice twist ending
He should have done something more subtle, like give humans the ability to bioengineer viruses, resulting in AIDS decades later or something like that.
>>151651680Literally everyone who has ever directed a Marvel film has prior feature directing credits. If anything you should be complaining about them hiring Chloe Zhao because her oeuvre is a bunch of milquetoast dramas about lonely people looking at landscapes.
