>>151648376
SCP has always been a weird, still-born media 'franchise'.

The Bung meltdown was fairly recent and well documented but SCP has always had weird shit going on with the creators.
Even when it was first being set up there was a lot of infighting and nonsense involving Oc's and shit.

It's not gonna die anytime soon but expect content for it to pop up suddenly and then dial down.
It comes in waves.

Thanks for sharing the video btw, almost missed it.

>>151648376
>>151648424
It was only good when it was just a 4chan /x/ thing; trannies and homosexuals ruined it.

>>151648429
Please tell me more.

>>151648376
SCP went from an early 2010s short creepypasta site to a tumblr tranny fanfic wiki

>>151648376
No no no all the insane woke nonsense that started with the Homestuck Satellites article did that
People reasonably do not want AIDS-encrusted cartoons

>>151648452
They started editing for political correctness, censoring the creative lifeblood essential for good storytelling as they always do. So I heard.

>>151648376
qrd?

>muh LeGBuTts
Wokeness didn't kill scps, being entirely fanon made had it doomed to fail. You make the cool ass immortal lizard and people wanna hitch their wagon into you with Immortal Lizard killers and All-but-immortal-lizard Killers and Immortal-ier Frogs and shit. Any good idea gets ridden until it breaks and any shit ideas slowly start filling up the room. Short of relatively few cases too you can't exactly moderate out all the trash additions because that's subjective and not exactly encouraging for a creative environment. Beyond that there's also little favors done when a universe is otherwise comprised of random disconnected stories, because then there's not much way to advance time or world building, and in the cases where you try it, well see above. I'd say all in all we got the best we're getting with it: a place to find creative writing and enjoy the highlights of it and the ideas it presents. Any shows or games or books etc are just going to similarly bog it down, there's no true winning advancement for it.

SCP died when they removed SCP-294's ability to provide something that can kill SCP-682.

Also; Anomalous Items were always better.

>>151648452
That anon is using hyperbole but he’s probably referring to the gay trans satellite SCP that’s in space being trans and gay somehow that got okayed shortly after they removed most of the rules involving how SCPs should be written; just let the floodgates open and the site was flooded with OCs, fanfiction and generally low quality SCPs that ended up being padding or even a detriment as a whole, kinda like TVtropes letting anyone say anything making the entire site a hodpodge of bizarrely written nonsense with 1-2 decent things buried between a hundred entires of straight up trash

>>151648424
Nobody wants to touch it for commercial purposes because of the CC BY-SA 3.0 license.
>Add the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 license (or CC-BY-SA for short) to the derived work. Doing this will release it under the CC-BY-SA license. Specific release statements may be found under the "For Specific Creator Types" tab.
>Releasing it under the CC-BY-SA license means that people will be able to copy your work wholesale, and even sell it, provided that they properly attribute you and release their work under the same license.
Imagine you make a movie or a game based on it, and somebody can just put it up for free to watch or download online, and there's not a single thing you can legally do about it. You'd make no money.

>>151649114
That's the point, Nobody can make any real money off of it so there's no incentive to try and "own" the brand

>>151648376
2 spooky

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>SCP "becomes woke"
>reactionary chuds cry and make 2673 forks
>all of them die in two weeks because chuds are uncreative retards who can't write for shit
>SCP becomes stronger than ever without the chuds and even influences other projects like the backrooms

>>151648376
Oh hey, I've been waiting for these guys to make another one of these

>>151650491
>gooning about ruining a creative project and making a mess for non-perverts to fix with much difficulty

>>151648376
Wait what happened with tats tops??

What is bung up to now anyways?
Just getting high with his tranny and working a wagie job?

>>151650726
I heard from a few people that he might have also trooned out, No idea if that's actually true though

>>151650715
Nothing
I think OP is referring to Lord bung

>>151648376
>Why the fuck SCP fell off so hard
Because they let a bunch of mentally ill people run the site, it literally is as simple as that. If you don't gate-keep then homosexuals and cross-dressing homosexuals with their multiple personality disorders will always destroy everything. You have to push the shark back into the water.

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>>151648910
>Wokeness didn't kill scps
No, it 100% killed the site.
That campaign to use the intersectional logo during pride month was really fucking bad for the tone of the site when you're stuck staring at rainbows while trying to read an emotionally detached horror story.
Then pride month ended, and they kept it up for another 5 months. And all this time, they continually censored and banned anyone that pointed out that it was legitimately antithetical to the site's objective.

>>151648376
What happened

>>151650942
Nothing
Just OP talking about the past fuck ups of scp creators and promoting one that is still going

>>151648429
Getting big ruined it, same as many community projects. Influx of shitty writers and gimmicks and shit, and changing to a culture that shouts down criticism, which always makes quality plummet (/r/nosleep literally added, or at least started enforcing, a rule that you had to be in-character). Haven't checked in since, so if any of that "woke" stuff did actually happen, they're just desecrating a corpse. Like when they nuked a bunch of iconic images since they didn't have the right license or whatever.

>>151650491
>"becomes woke"
Why are you putting this in quotes?
They've stated in unambiguous terms that their objective was to raise awareness to intersectionalist activism as an opposition to straight white patriarical cisgendered structures.

>>151650919
this makes a lot of sense now, I just thought the staff were too lazy to change the .png back to the normal version

>>151651071
The influx of kids, getting noticed and engaged with by normies and larger groups, and lack of criticism/moderation/standards leads to the problems. That's just how it gets woke too. Even staying small doesn't always avoid being co-opted though (or a member going rogue) - you need to have strong, stable moderation/curation/vetoing to enforce things if you've got a group effort.

>>151651078
Because this site is always bellyaching about woke, it's cried wolf too much. Sounds like it may be true this time? I should have looked into it, didn't care enough to be honest. It's been dead to me a long time. Even stuff like the SCP-173 picture being removed I learned by happenstance.

>>151651207
>It's been dead to me a long time.
Anon, you literally said
>SCP becomes stronger than ever without the chuds
You're a fucking retard.

>>151651078
Shut the fuck up. You are deliberately trying to spread misinformation to ignorant anons.

>>151651222
NTA, retard.

>>151651234
>NTA, retard.
Iff you're not the same anon, then what the fuck did you mean by "I should have looked into it, didn't care enough to be honest."?

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why do SCP threads always suck
why can't we be like everybody else on /co/ and just talk about sex or something

>>151648376
>Nobody talking about the actual video ITT
>Just off topic discussion about woke thanks to OP
You set yourself up for a disappointing thread, OP.

>>151651257
>why do SCP threads always suck
Because SCP sucks.

>>151651164
It was 100% a power play and a political statement that pride doesn't just stop at the end of the month.
For context, it was around the same time that the LGBT community was calling out corporations for reverting their logos and regarding that as lip service.
Unfortunately, being a community driven project means you're at the whim of whoever put it up in the first place and there's no one with the authority to say "Knock it off, you are tanking our public image."

>>151651290
So does half of everything else on the catalog RIGHT NOW, why are we the only ones that can't make a single thread that doesn't devolve into this shit after 15 minutes

>>151651325
Because it's also off-topic AND the porn is shit.
There is literally nothing else to discuss besides how it used to suck less.

>>151651207
>it's cried wolf too much
This would be accurate if, again, the people being called "woke" didn't openly identify as being woke.
You realize that "woke" isn't a term the right came up with, right? It's something that the intersectional community used to refer to their own campaigns to raise awareness.

>>151648376
Alright I finished watching the vid
Pretty good
Hope to see more one on one interviews with interesting SCPs

>>151651225
>Misinformation
Nothing I said was wrong

>>151651257
Because the project was taken over by Redditors who proudly declared that they wanted to distance the SCP from this site as much as possible.

>>151651254
Because I was asked why I was putting woke in quotes? If this is your level of comprehension, I'm leaning back towards you idiots being wrong about the woke stuff lol

Here, little buddy, these are the posts that are mine:
>>151651071
>>151651168
>>151651207
>>151651234

To return to my point: you need gatekeeping. Not necessarily to keep out the woke (some groups want that stuff) but to enforce rules, standards, cohesion. Your gatekeepers probably do need to hold to some well-thought-out principles, whether ideological or not, since you're going.to get an influx of all sorts of shit - not just "chuds" vs "woke" but shippers, meta, endless multi-part stories, trend-hopping, whatever.

>>151651450
>Because I was asked why I was putting woke in quotes?
So you replied to someone who didn't reply to you?
>>151651207 which you say is you, replied to >>151651078 who replied to >>151650491 which you claim isn't you.
So either it was you and you're lying, or it wasn't you and you're retard who responded to someone who clearly wasn't talking to you.

>>151651348
Why did you quote "woke" in your reply?

Quotes are not solely used to doubt or mock the enclosed text, you know. Turns out, they've been used for a real long time to show that you're "quoting" what somebody else said!

>>151651390
>Because the project was taken over by Redditors
The guy currently paying for the project is an old fag from here.
>proudly declared that they wanted to distance the SCP from this site as much as possible.
Is this really a surprise? People who do not visit this site think it is still like the old days thanks to Youtubers. Anons sometime complain about how they want to leave this place.

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>>151651495
>you're retard who responded to someone who clearly wasn't talking to you
yeh, I'm retard.

I saw the latest post was buttmad about putting woke in quotes and assumed that applied to me

>>151651588
And why would you assume that? A post shows clear signs if it's quoting you contra ones that aren't.

>>151651497
>"woke"
Because I'm using the word within reference to a specific definition to remove ambiguity, not imply it.

>>151651390
>they wanted to distance the SCP from this site as much as possible.
Not surprising at all. Maybe 5% of everybody using the internet regularly have ever been here, much less of them come here as a regular.
It's not very shocking to think 90% or more assume this is "le evil website"

>>151651541
>an old fag
Oh wow. There's all of one! I guess that makes up for all the others who were effectively banned.

>>151651325
Because in addition to being dumb garbage it's also extremely (and very literally) autistic.

we can still save this thread
I think the idea of using 978 to see the desires of other SCPs is kinda cool, and I like Watch's VA

>>151651625
>>151651541
There's a difference between antagonizing and operating independently. SCP went from cooperating to outright oppositional.

>>151651704
I mean the logs for it on on the site, this is just animating it and showing them off
Also I think watch's VA has done other work on his channel but I think he took it down for some reason
I think he did a thing for Hazbin hotel voicing baxtor for fan stuff

>>151651617
So it was bad that they put woke in quotes but I was A-OK to do so?

>>151651823
That has nothing to do with what my post said. stop trying to deflect from your retardation.
I don't give a fuck whether someone puts something in quotation marks or not. I'm just calling out your retardation.

>>151651812
Some of them are original, like 008
in the logs on the site, the test was outright stopped by one of the O5s and no photograph was taken

>>151651872
Oh yeah
I wonder if they'll get into the doctors because they had pics taken of them I think

>>151648376
SCP died a natural internet death. nothing went particularly wrong.

> wiki was already saturated 7 or 8 years ago. both in terms of content (shit people make) and attention (people looking at it)
> all simple stories that don't require top-down narrative direction have been explored.
> vast majority of nerds only need to read ~100 best SCPs to have their fill. most moved onto newer or better things.
> a few stay for the community/their own therapy and not for the actual story.
> remaining stories go for overly complex/cringey because those are the only holes left to fill

I think SCP's limbo state is pretty typical: after a few generation, there's a dead story universe and undead fandom.

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>>151651863
I already called myself both a retard and autistic. Feel free to dodge the question, I've said my piece.

Hope you SCP kids get your thread back on track. It's not for me anymore but didn't really mean to contribute to derailing.

>>151648429
How many sex changing SCPs are there now?

>>151652057
>Feel free to dodge the question
I didn't dodge the question. I answered it by stating that I don't care.
It's not for me to make that judgment call, because not only do I not care, but it's never been a part of anything I've said.

>>151651645
Most of the old fags retired for various reasons and never got banned. You can look at the old accounts and see they are still members. Gears was from /x/ but he got married and had three kids while fighting kidney cancer. Writing for SCP did not pay his bills.

>>151651704
Let this thread die and start another one. OP fucked up.

SCP Foundation isn't a franchise. It is an open-source, public domain, fiction repository of Original Content/Fan-Fiction. This is why it won't ever get a Death Battle or stuff like that. Backrooms is in the same position.

>>151648376
interesting

>>151653797
not really

>>151648429
desu I just pretend anything above the 3000 series doesn't exist. I know they say the downfall happened around the 2000 series but some of the 2000 ones are my favorites. I actually planned to write one I still feel good about but they want to trash so imma save it for my own ideas.
What I hate more are the probably indian content slop channels. The other garbage is easier to ignore if you don't engage with the community at all.

>>151648376
What is going on now

>>151650491
RPC is still going

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>>151650491
>stronger than ever
you mean suffering from bloat with basically no interesting or cool entries anymore and piggybacking off the legacy of 20 or 30 of the most popular ones.

>>151648376
>we literally just had this hidden gem yesterday and there's no discussion around it
Do you recognize the conflict there?

>>151651257
>The teenage succubus raised in a nunnery that men would have a overwhelming compulsion to fuck was rewritten into something retarded about a magical deer or something because normie faggots kept seething at the author (who was too much of a coward and wokie himself to defend the scenario horror they penned)

Nu SCP is expressly against that anon. Unless you want to animate your self insert transitioning not even safe horny is allowed

I have something to confess
I like New Job

>>151656861
Reminds me of an entry I read ages ago that I'm pretty sure got nixed early on.
Concept was "Fountain of Love".
Effectively it was a hidden spring that only got discovered because it seeped into a town's water supply after a forest guy cleared and it was rumored to be cupid's burial ground or something.
First imbibement caused people to immediately fixated on the first person they saw with prolonged exposure resulting in fullon maniacal obsession.

It was a cool concept and well-written from what I remember, but "Entire town goes yandere and collectively rapes itself to death" was too /x/ related.

You would not be reading this comment on this thread about this thing if this was actually a dead thing.


Talk of there being to many is a minor issue at best. The biggest IP on earth in Pokemon have to many creatures to be remembered as well but what matters is that there is a nice well rounded collection of entities to which a fandom 'can' care about. Pokemon fando can't name every pokemon and they don't give any shits about much fewer then that. SCP's list of creature a decade from now, people who are into this stuff won't know SCP-4666 or 5004 or 9324 but they'll still remember 173 and 106 and 1000 and 055, they'll have the origami dragons and sentient lawn flamingoes and the that anti-narritive deletion pattern. Cain and abel, gate guard. Wondertainment clan and so on.

>>151649010

Well;;; I belive that Jerry Seinfeld say before... "that's a shame".

But to be a leason....gatekeep is real.

>>151650726
Trooned out, is now making really bad small penis porn on twitter with a focus on kids/teenagers.

>>151651257
Only hope and despair have the power to raise a voice. We do not have high hopes here.

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I haven't read any SCP entries in years.

Any highly recommended ones that were made in the past two years or so?

I lost any hope for the project after 3999 and I stopped checking the site. I mean sure it was already bad by then but seeing everyone glazing what is one of the worst pieces of fiction ever written was too much. Worse than being bad, a lot of entries are, it was disrespectful to the whole project and every other writer.
It is so sad how every new type of "Internet horror" gets driven to the ground faster and faster, scp, analogy horror, liminal spaces, backrooms, etc.

>>151660610
did you draw this? source?

>>151648857
SCP becoming woke as hell was just a side effect of the real issue, which was the community being flooded with tumblr-brains who write like 16 year old girls who just watched Stranger Things.

>>151648376
Why do we need SCP? When we can have Area 51?

>>151648857
Never forget how they ruined SCP-847. It went from "mannequin that kills women" to "mannequin that kills anyone who identifies as a woman" even though it is way creepier if it kills based on biology instead of gay shit like gender identity.

>>151660610
There are still some cool series 1/2 style scps posted every now and then

Some ones I think are cool
8766
6564
8345
6985
6150
8905
7508
6526
8053

I really don’t like most of the large scale articles nowadays but it’s always nice to see some small sized scps that are clever or interesting

>>151650491
>SCP becomes stronger than ever
SCP is so culturally irrelevant now that even the content farm channels that piggyback off it get no views anymore.

>>151662119
The content farms get no views because everyone realized they are lazy fucks. It goes beyond SCP into other fandoms. They only repost compilations to game the algorithm for ad revenue. Give people credit for not wasting their time with leeches.

>>151648857

the website had a cabal of authors who would strangle new talent to keep themselves on top. IIRC some of the top authors had mod powers. It turned into an incestuous lorewank series and of course you had the tumblr/tranny writing
scattered here and there. Just awful all around.

>>151650491

White male chuds are the indigenous folx of online fandom. The LGBTroon takeover is unironically a form of cultural imperialism that adulterated the original form and is why it lacks sovl. The SWM chuds did the emotional labor that created the bedrock of these communities. Do better.

>>151661886
Not sure I agree there. If it's biological I would just think of it as some lucky quirk to not have it as a man. Pheromones or something. If it's identify based it's unnerving that is can tell. Besides getting trans women successfully killed by a woman killer is hardly a diversity win.

>>151661369
X explained videos did a lot of damage, deepest lore shit. Everyone wants spooky creepy meaningful horror but they want to shotgun the creepy and the meaningful. Fnaf is a glistening example of needing to add more nonsense and more darkness with no real payout. It's why backrooms couldn't just be this eerily familiar other realm you fall into and get trapped in, it has to have a liminal man and hidden blood messages and demonic origins.

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>>151651257
Because I HAVE to remind you that the woke ruined SCPs, every single fucking thread.
Yes the woke suck and they ruin everything they touch but SCP threads feel like a 2016 time capsule where everyone's bitter and angry even though half the people writing for SCPs left and made RPC Authority years ago

>>151662834
if woke is so bad why isnt rpc authority more popular?
Perhaps something else was the issue.

>>151651207
any community that isn't explicitly anti-left and anti-progslop in its codification is at risk of being taken over by these freaks. This is a well-known phenomenon at this point, it happens with all sorts of groups like fandoms, corporations, the civil service, academia etc

I read scp 9003 I still don't get what's the anomaly.

The only good thing to ever come out of SCP is the cum goblin. Everything else has been retarded from inception.

>>151663014
Virus-zine that uses your own beliefs to recruit you to, something. It says in the article, what don't you get?

>>151663037
It's just a porpaganda comic then. There's no anomaly if you already agree with the chaos insurgency.

>>151662994
Just because something isn't popular doesn't mean it isn't good.

>>151661886
>monster that kills foids changed to monster that kills foids and troons
it's not really necessary but sure why not

>>151663043
Most comics don't take the form of false narratives trying to recruit you based on your own thoughts. You might as well call the neck snapper "just a statue"

>>151661886
Wait did they rewrite it again, cuz as far as I can remember, it was changed from simple "mannequin that kills women (with an image from a jailbait site if I'm remembering correctly" to "mannequin who kills/maims women and takes parts from her to incorporate them into herself"

>>151663058
You are literally just describing how deceptive advertisement works. Or are you telling me the comics are personalized for everybody. Because from what I see, it just recruits trans folx to the Chaos Insurgency.

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reminder that lobotomy corp took the idea of SCP and managed to make it something that's actually good.
forever mogged by a korean man who saw SCP and copied it (ended up being better due to no mary sue fanfic slop and teenagers trying to one up each other's OCs)

>>151663161
Mogged by troubleshooter and dota 2. Go back to your containment thread limbusbaby.

>>151661886
qrd?

>>151663087
Again you can read what it actually does, yes it's meant to be personalized. I guess the intent was other trans or at least other queer people would be reading it in this instance (it's fiction after all it's quite limited in living up to actually targeting your thoughts). If you wanna be direct and say it's a pretty fucking stupid submission for an SCP you can just go ahead. I'll agree. The art is interesting, but it's a hilarious miss. "No dad, *you're* the anomaly" falters if there's pretty cut and dry existence of actual anomalies.

>censored a bunch of old classics in the name of progressivism
>added a bunch of idiotic nonsense "extra classes" that completely fucking ruined the simple safe-euclid-keter scaling
>turned it solely into a space for their retarded self-insert quirky gay monsters

>>151663822
>Soley
Damn I didn't know infinite ikea has blue hair and pronouns

>>151663882
they ruined that one with their gay-ass classification too

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>>151663291
hit a nerv did i?
>trouble shooter
literal who game with a million DLCs...WAW!
that's...something?
anyways have fun with your tranny SCPs while i enjoy some KINO abnos

SCP was always shit.

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I'm reading through the 001 submissions now, just for fun. I'm up to Memento Mori. Noticing that a lot of these older submissions are, like, 'here's how the foundation was founded, here's the secret identity of the O-5, here's the source of all anomalies.' And they're all terrible compared to 'here's a cool monster or a neat idea.'
What would you guys say is the best 001? Right now, I think it's Fishhook.
Also, FUCK Ouroboros, holy shit.

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>>151664782
Huh? You gonna press winrate in mirror dungeons? While anybody interested in horror kino reads RPC like normal people?

>>151648424
I think some of this just comes with an open source project becoming successful.
>neat collection of campfire stories
>gets noticed, people start flooding site with crap
>need for standard setting and moderation leads to increased organization
>subsequent improvement in quality control makes a golden age with lots of positive word of mouth
>project blows up / goes rival
>fags realize they can make money and fame off it
>said fags bring with them scandals, crashouts, and infighting
>all the quality people flake away as the reputation of the IP tanks
>now it is a walking corpse only loved by the most dedicated autists
Seems like a pretty consistent pipeline.

>>151664798
No.

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>>151664886
>What would you guys say is the best 001?
When Day Breaks.

>>151664886
I liked the prototype and the factory.

>>151664886
I didn't remember the least time I read through.
But I think the only ones that stuck with me are gate guardian, spiral path, data base, and when dawn breaks.

Anything that tries going into the origin of of the other GOIs feels like a big gay. They aren't bad, they just doesn't deserve 001 status. Which I agree with you, Fuck Ouroboros, it's the ultimate big gay.

>>151648862
It all went downhill when they moved the fork to the J section

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>>151664925
yep
definitely sounds like someone who's butthurt about limbus

>>151664886
Project Palisade

>>151665579
Yep, enjoy touching children on roblox slurper.

>>151661482
I did. It's the only SCP drawing I've done though.

>>151661995
Thanks for the recommendations. I like the Russian spaceship one (6150, I think), despite how short it was. And SCP-8053 got me surprisingly invested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eb-ZYzUfO3A

Why are people suddenly doing revisionist history that the retarded woke people didn't ruin SCP?

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>>151651257
It's kinda sad to see.

Here's an old ass pic I had saved.

>>151666384
Because /co/ is one of the most woke boards on 4chan and without a producer or conglomerate to blame, we'd be forced to look inwards and recognize that we aren't actually the bastions of creative freedom we claim to be.

>>151666261
A big thing with most of the newer scps is that they need to be narrative or character driven. Most artifact scps from the 2008-2010 era would have been deleted in like 2 days if they didnt have interviews or exploration logs.

I’ve seen people say that 005 is one of the worst scps because it’s like an item you would find in a game. I think the article is fine for what it is but you can definitely tell it’s an old article. That’s why I thought 8905 is cool cause it sets up the punchline early only to give an anticlimactic ending that’s really funny

There’s also 8277 and 8522 which have similar gradual build up testing logs. Those are nice to see

>>151663895
How?
>>151664564
If you say something is universally true, then a single counter example disproves your claim.

>>151669589
>How?
Now there's a bunch of new classifications added on every entry. It's stupid.

>>151648376
What does that have to do with Sedition Files? What happened with Tats?

you just posted their most recent production? What is wrong with it?

>>151669628
>Now there's a bunch of new classifications added on every entry. It's stupid.
No, that's clearly not true.

Infinite ikea still is just Euclid.
https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-3008

>>151669748
Well, then I guess they didn't update *all* of the old ones with the new system.

>>151669589
>then a single counter example disproves your claim.
Two things:
1) Hyperbole exists to describe trends more than absolutes, and trends can't be refuted with just counter examples.
2) Even scientifically, significance is shown within confidence intervals. To be accurate, you just need to be right anywhere between 90% to 99% of the time to say something is true. Even if you're wrong 10% of the time, that doesn't mean it's significant.

It sucks when every 5th SCP has to have some form of queer or fag in it.
Wilson's wildlife didn't need a tranny daughter.
That titty goat demon didnt need to be trans.
The trans satellite and the trans lake dont need to exist.

>>151669954
>Wilson's wildlife didn't need a tranny daughter.
>need
What kind of fucking argument is "need"?
"Need" isn't a requirement to put something in fiction. This is a stupid complain to make.

>>151670056
Her being a tranny is just pure wish fulfillment on the writer. I bet she's an ugly looker.

>>151670056
>"Need" isn't a requirement to put something in fiction.
There are entire careers built around enforcing representation within fiction, and by golly, let me tell you about the people that just do it for free.

>>151670086
>Her being a tranny is just pure wish fulfillment on the writer.
Yes and? Doesn't explain your "need" complain.
>>151670093
>around enforcing representation within fiction
Pretty sure none of the people who put it there were forced to do so. Also, no not really, most of the time, production executive will push agaisnt such inclusion.

>>151670056
Actually if you’re going to true to life there should be consistent patterns in population proportions, lifestyles, etc. even if you’re writing a fantasy or horror story, you are exaggerating or reflecting life. If your human gender balance is 30/70 like a Pokémon species, there needs to be an explanation.
If you just want to express your fucking discord chat that banned everyone who isn’t gay or trans don’t be surprised when audiences stop showing up and your franchise disintegrates compared to its more honest past.

>>151669954
LGBT people exist irl. They should exist in fiction. Accept it and move on.

>>151669820
>Well, then I guess they didn't update *all* of the old ones with the new system.
How many do you think use the new system?

>>151669820
Where does it say you have to use a different system now?
I dont see it on this page: https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/object-classes

>>151670186
NTA but considering it's been a few years since the new system showed up, they went back and changed a lot of the "popular" pages, but didn't fuck with most of the stuff before like, 5000 or so, I'd guess maybe half of them?

>>151670145
>if you’re going to true to life there should be consistent patterns in population proportions, lifestyles
I don't think SCP is true to life.

>If your human gender balance is 30/70 like a Pokémon species, there needs to be an explanation.
Not really Most SCP don't cover whole species and for specific case there isn't really a need for an explanation the same way you don't need an explanation why the hero end up only having female companion in an harem anime. It just is how things happened.

>>151670139
>Pretty sure none of the people who put it there were forced to do so.
I'm sure they weren't. I'm certain they see themselves as being creative and daring. I'm also positive they will turn around and try to shame you for even questioning the choice.

>will push agaisnt such inclusion.
In adult series? Hell no, that inclusion is borderline mandatory.

>>151670161
>and move on.
Good news, friend.
Most of us have, that's why no one's reading this crap any more

>>151670297
Most SCPs i read have nothing relating to sexuality (let alone lgbt people).

>>151670277
>I'm certain they see themselves as being creative and daring.
No, they simply did what they wanted to do.
>I'm also positive they will turn around and try to shame you for even questioning the choice.
Well, what's to question?

>In adult series?
Oh yeah. The moment something is produced for mass-public, there will always be a push-back.

>>151670331
>The moment something is produced for mass-public, there will always be a push-back.
Yup. They keep doing it despite the lack of demand or interest.
It's pretty silly, but pushing an agenda is more important than making something people in general actually like or relate to, I guess

>>151669701
Anyone can answer this?

What is the problem with the Sedition Files?

>>151670307
>Most SCPs i read have nothing relating to sexuality
Obviously. It's a site for horror stories. Why on earth would someone choose this as a platform for LGBT representation in the first place?

>>151670384
>Yup. They keep doing it despite the lack of demand or interest.
No, executive will push against minority inclusion.

The "lack of demand" should never factor. It's up to the writers to create an interest, and what genders the characters have isn't a much of a factor on whether the story is good or not.

>pushing an agenda
Things that exist in real life existing in in fiction isn't an "agenda". Unless the agenda in question is make so people end up considering normal to see minorities in fiction. But why would you have issue with that.

>>151670416
>Why on earth would someone choose this as a platform for LGBT representation in the first place?
That's a weird question to ask. to begin with. LGBT simply exist, there is no reason for them to not exist in any set of fiction.

>>151670416
It's not solely a horror stuff at this point. anyways thats like asking why there would be disability or race representation in horror.

>>151670450
>Unless the agenda in question is make so people end up considering normal to see minorities in fiction. But why would you have issue with that.
Mostly because identifiability is key to horror. If you want media that minorities can identify with, then be my guest. That's your audience so act surprised or shocked that I don't relate to it.

>>151670481
>anyways thats like asking why there would be disability or race representation in horror.
Those are both great questions, actually.
Disability in horror is extremely relevant since disability itself is uncomfortable and unsettling, and race can set tone location and setting.

>>151670547
the way that minorities and the lower social classes have been treated is sometimes uncomfortable and unsettling.

>>151670472
>simply exist
That is not how lgbt people operate. They dominate, they exclude, they refuse to listen, they do not desire calm coexistence with other people unless they’re forced to (and then comes the crocodile tears of “oppression”)

>>151670472
>That's a weird question to ask. to begin with.
It is not. A lot of things exist, that doesn't make them relevant.

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>>151670507
>Mostly because identifiability is key to horror. If you want media that minorities can identify with, then be my guest.
It's jsut a matter of writing. You do'nt need to be the same gender or race to identify with a character.

I could easily identify with Ripley in Alien, despite the fact that I am a man.

>>151670585
>That is not how lgbt people operate. They dominate, they exclude, they refuse to listen, they do not desire calm coexistence with other people unless they’re forced to
Source: your ass.

>>151670588
Why should white people be in fiction?

>>151670588
>that doesn't make them relevant.
Whether or not they are relevant is not the matter of discussion, anon. The matter of discussion is their existence in fiction.

It's still a weird question to ask.

>>151670635
Haha no buddy, you say that reply as an automatic reflex. you’re ALREADY refusing to listen.
My best friend helped make Homestuck, iconic to hundreds of thousands of lgbtq, I quit joining the team to choose Catholic faith instead of wokeness. I have a shitload of live experience, masturbator.

>>151670578
I don't know. Some minorities seem like they're pretty well off. Even better than national averages.
But I guess I too would feel uncomfortable being surrounded by a demographic that is filled with crabs in a bucket, is that what your horror story actually about?

>>151670643
Maybe the white people created their own platform and just started writing stories for themselves.

>>151670663
>Haha no buddy, you say that reply as an automatic reflex. you’re ALREADY refusing to listen.
Giving you actual argument to what you are saying is the opposite of refusing to listening.

Explaining to you that you are wrong isn't the same as refusing to listen, anon.

>>151670655
>Whether or not they are relevant is not the matter of discussion, anon. The matter of discussion is their existence in fiction.
These are related questions.

>>151670635
> You do'nt need to be the same gender or race to identify with a character.
LGBTQ dissolve natural identity and hate to be encouraged to accept it instead of claiming “I had a weird puberty, so I’m trans!” Puberty is weird.

Normal experiences and lgbtq experiences are mutually exclusive.
>>151670698
You just ignored what I said you dumb fuck. You only want to hear what helps you sodomize: meaning you search for evidence of dominating others, humiliating them, etc

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>>151670665
>But I guess I too would feel uncomfortable being surrounded by a demographic that is filled with crabs in a bucket, is that what your horror story actually about?
What are you trying to say? Is this a witty comeback or are you genuinely unaware of anything horrific involving minorities (in the USA for example)?

>>151670711
>These are related questions.
Not really.

>>151670713
>LGBTQ dissolve natural identity and hate to be encouraged to accept it
Most neurobiology studies back up their identification, actually. So it make sense that they would reject people trying to force them to not be what they are.

>Normal experiences and lgbtq experiences are mutually exclusive.
Source: your ass.

>You just ignored what I said you dumb fuck
Disagreeing with you isn't ignoring what you are saying anon.

>>151670713
>Normal experiences and lgbtq experiences are mutually exclusive.
You can't be serious, can you? I'm pretty sure both can mourn the loss of a loved one.

>>151670747
>What are you trying to say?
I don't think you're ready to actually have that discussion, but if your really that desperate to talk about it then take it to a board more suited for it.

>>151670768
My experience losing out on work on a top-tier internet project because I rejected lgbtq can scarcely be more relevant to understanding lgbtq. Just like the SCP foundation.

If it makes your dick soft instead of hard, you just try to avoid hearing it. All you have to do is acknowledge my story to disprove being a mindless pervert shill.

>>151670790
Actually LGBTQ GLOAT over dead loved ones if they’re conservative. They enjoy seeing people die and waste away if they tried to take away their sexual degeneracy.

>>151670768
>Not really
Yes really.
I'm trans btw

>>151670820
You are probably just talking about something you completely misunderstood.

>>151670825
>My experience losing out on work on a top-tier internet project because I rejected lgbtq
So you are the one who did the rejection, anon, not them.

And an adult having an attraction for an other adult isn't in tiself a perversion either. That doesn't prove anything.

>>151650491
>holder series inspired scp
huh, that makes a whole lot of sense.

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>filter out troon, tranny, etc
>thread is pic related
lol

>>151670895
So, can someone tell me why OP mentioned Sedition Files, now?

>>151670867
And I told you to take it to a more appropriate for that discussion.

>>151670914
Not the anon you are replying to, but all I am seeing here is you trying to squirm away from the argument.

>>151670914
you accused them of being crabs in a bucket

I wish this thread was more active
>a finger curls on the monkey's paw

>>151670869
No, retard, normal people can accept others disagreeing on their politics, nation, fetish, career choice, whatever.
LGBTQ are too oversexualized for that, it causes them to feel non-dominant and causes their identity to stop being centered on sex.

If you expect people to give up on their religion, values, sensibilities, etc just for YOU you are a plague on society, a plague that destroyed the SCP foundation, Homestuck act 6 and many other things.

>>151671004
Ever heard of asexuals?

>>151670926
>but all I am seeing here is you trying to squirm away from the argument.
Uh. Yeah? That's obviously what I'm doing, this isn't /pol/ and not a great board for discussing race statistics. You're damn right I ditching the discussion.

>>151671015
Dodging the point. I enjoyed Ren and Stimpy, I accepted many people don’t like the gross out elements, I sought to emphasize other elements they would find more appealing. I have done this with many other things besides gross out scenes.
Gays? Claim that if you don’t want to see gay sex in society you’re an evil phobe oppressing them. They don’t care that a lot of people don’t want to hear about even extreme heterosexual sex acts because they want to corrupt innocence and impose themselves on the mild-mannered. They struggled to accept even something as basic as “children should not see sex.”

They lack the ability to coexist and properly structure society, their attitude is “TEAR IT DOWN! I’m excited, I’m hard, I’m dominating, that’s all I give a fuck about!”

>>151671004
>No, retard, normal people can accept others disagreeing on their politics, nation, fetish, career choice, whatever.
But less so when it come to vouching for the extermination of a specific group or an other. Hopefully, you should be able to understand why.

>LGBTQ are too oversexualized for that
Sexualisation has nothing to do with accepting if someone can disagree with you.

>If you expect people to give up on their religion, values, sensibilities
No one is asking you to do that in the first place anon.
What it being asked, though, is to not try to force others to follow your personal values.

>a plague that destroyed the SCP foundation, Homestuck act 6 and many other things.
LGBT+ destroyed none of those things.

>>151671099
>Gays? Claim that if you don’t want to see gay sex in society you’re an evil phobe oppressing them
Curious how trying to force people to hide themselves from society, it is seen as oppression.

>>151670990
Blame OP for starting the thread by bitching instead of simply sharing new SCP Sedition content.

>>151671099
>Gays? Claim that if you don’t want to see gay sex in society you’re an evil phobe oppressing them.
How can you not be. You are basically saying that you want to force people to follow YOUR specific values.

Is
>Oppressing people is part of my core value and if you are saying I am not allowed to oppress people, then YOU are oppressing me
really your argument?

>if you don't have explicit hardcore gay sex in everything then you are trying to erase gays
This is why people don't like you. There is a fundamental difference between someone refusing to bake the gay cake and someone pushing to outlaw gay cakes, but queer people either can't see it or are lying.

>>151671498
>>if you don't have explicit hardcore gay sex in everything
Not the actual argument, anon. Try again.

>>151671498
>This is why people don't like you.
Because of reasons you are entirely making up in your head? Cause I can assure you no one here and even most gays in real life are actually demanding for
>hardcore gay sex in everything

>>151671498
>There is a fundamental difference between someone refusing to bake the gay cake and someone pushing to outlaw gay cakes
Here is the thing, here when you (or possibly another anon) are claiming that >>151671099
>you don’t want to see gay sex in society
You are clearly vouching for the later. you want to outlaw gay cakes.

>>151671610
>>151671630
>>151671662
>backpedaling and dodging
Anons, I know that you are lying, you know that you are lying, you know that I know that you are lying, so why do you keep the farce? If a series or project don't feature lgbt it is attacked like it is nazi propaganda, if it does then you people complain that there isn't enough.
I used the cake for an obvious reason, it proves gays can't live in a world where they aren't the focus of attention 24/7, if there is a gay-free space you will try to destroy it.

>>151672014
>>backpedaling and dodging
What backpedalling or dodging was there, anon?

And what lie to begin with?
>If a series or project don't feature lgbt it is attacked like it is nazi propaganda
No, not really. There are always some people to complain, but it is soon forgotten. On the other hand, you'll see people whining and complaining anytime they see a character who happens to belong to a minority.

>I used the cake for an obvious reason
Doesn't change that you tried to vouch for erasing the sigh of gay people in society while painting yourslef as the victim for doing so and now YOU are trying to backpedal from that.

Again, it's not he LGBT+ who are doing the rejection.

>>151672014
>>backpedaling and dodging
You are the one who came up with complaining about explicit hardcore gay sex being guilt-tripped into media.

Something that isn't remotely true.

>>151672166
>There are always some people to complain, but it is soon forgotten. On the other hand, you'll see people whining and complaining anytime they see a character who happens to belong to a minority.
I'm genuinely curious if you actually believe that or you are just trying to fool yourself.
>Doesn't change that you tried to vouch for erasing the sigh of gay people in society
See? You are literally equating "not being represented in everything" with "being erased". You are a nutjob, seek help.

>>151672205
>Something that isn't remotely true
Not for the lack of effort by the gays.

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I miss the old spirit of SCP.

>>151665056
Prototype? Really?
Don't get me wrong, it's fine, but it just kind of reads like a submission that HAS to exist just so something like it exists. It's the literal first anomaly, but there's nothing unique or special or interesting about it other than that.

>>151665593
Palisade is good too, but I feel like You Are the Anomaly does it better than just some nebulous evil worm floating around dimensions. Maybe if it had a twist, like the created dimensions are simply failing because they were created wrong and nobody realizes it or something, but even then, Anomaly is hard to beat. It's probably second-best.

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>have been a hater of woke nuscp
>decide to show that i can do better than fags and trannies
>Try to write something
>Uuhm..
>Huhm..
>Derivative bullshit
>Tonally deaf edgefest
>More of a shitpost than story
>Cant make 1 good character or conversation
>Give up
>Repeat.
Forgot to fill my mind with based media and focused on just hating what's gay and cringe instead...
I genuinely have no good ideas.

>>151674168
>Forgot to fill my mind with based media and focused on just hating what's gay and cringe instead...
So basically you are facing the same issue as woke stuff people complain about.

>>151672562
It so unhinged how you find this guy works funny.

>>151674761
>So basically you are facing the same issue as woke stuff people complain about.
as in the stuff that people complain exists soley to be woke.

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>>151673836
> It's the literal first anomaly, but there's nothing unique or special or interesting about it other than that.
That's why it's good.
It's a meta commentary on the evolution of the SCP wiki and how the earliest entries are conceptually simple, but demand is defined by the necessity to be bombastic and provoking. It stands out because it highlights how the wiki is antithetical to what an actual organization dedicated to containing the anomalous would regularly document in a shockingly appropriately canonical way. The first is boring just because there was nothing more interesting to compare it to.

>>151675545
>The first is boring just because there was nothing more interesting to compare it to.
I should rephrase this.
The first is the most interesting because there would be nothing else to compare it to, and it's a relic because it reflects the type of entry that cannot belong anywhere else.

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>>151671498
>if you don't have explicit hardcore gay sex in everything then you are trying to erase gays
No one ever said this.

>>151671004
Speak your truth king.

>>151671498
The bakery won that lawsuit on appeal and you retards will still cry about it until the end of time.

The Hanged King isn't nearly as interesting as the psedu SCP writers for it want it to be

>>151677198
So much this.

https://youtu.be/pThj6xJg7KY?si=0pnOMGirUZfx9vuR

>>151675545
What an interesting view; thank you, Bateman. Maybe I was too harsh on Prototype.

>>151663005
>implying that woke isn't finished and the biggest risk your community has now is being taken over by bloodthirsty nu-socialists

>>151672431
>I'm genuinely curious if you actually believe that or you are just trying to fool yourself.
I actually pay attention tot he media. Most of them continue to cater to straigh cis-people. Not a complain, just an observation. But it allow me to conclude that all I am seeing here is you complaining about when it is not the case.

>Not for the lack of effort by the gays.
Nope, most will not guilt-trip you for not wanting explicit hardcore gay sex in everything.

Gay people aren't the unreasonable ones, here.

>>151663005
>any community that isn't explicitly anti-left and anti-progslop in its codification is at risk of being taken over by these freaks
So, what's the problem?

The hard reality to accept is that SCP would probably be in the same state if trannies hadn't taken over it. It was not meant to be popular really

Sup everyone. A friend has been an SCP writer for a while now and he's been writing some shorter articles, more in line with earlier series. I think they're fine but he'd like a second opinion.

https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-8134
https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-8671
https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-8241

>>151648376
Cool video.
>troons on discord are complaining that it's another tacticool military story

>>151677198
What was The Hanged King, anyway?

>>151679786
Literally SCPs version of the King in Yellow.

>>151679786
Some faggot who keeps forcing memetic hazard theatric play into our reality and killing a bunch of people. That's the initial bit. He's an eldritch horror thats suffering the consequences of his actions and lashing out on our reality. Then some guy made like 50 novel-long articles about the hanged king lore and none of them are any good except for the Fresh Prince of Bel Air ripoff but thats a recent one.

>>151666863
Oh this pic is great. I know nothing about it but I can tell there's a trove of information inside it. Could you please explain?

>>151666863
Are we cool yet have either the coolest articles on the whole wiki or unberable and literal bitching about drumpf.