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>LUCYLUCYLUCYGreat writing
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>taeshi dropped the previews
>You thought you could confide in Daisy?>Syke! You just made things worse for yourself Mike!Just let him die, jesus.
So this is how she makes Paulo turn on Maishul, and since him and Daisy are conveniently dating, fatcat will follow suit(case).Covenience, convenience, convenience.
>>151652293Daisy is an empty-headed traitorous retard with even less spine than Mike, SOMEHOW. Gray cat actually stood up for her and Paulo's sake. She repays his loyalty by coming up with a scenario that damns him and (comparatively) elevates the girl who she doesn't even like very much.
>>151652247to be fair this is the only thing mike did wrong, taking back sandy
>>151652270I'm waiting for the page as well.
Man. One thing is Mike being cheated slipping accidentally, but Daisy just fucking crucified him after this was supposed to be private, god forbid the reader forgets LUCY is a poor little victim that deserves everyone's love for a single chapter
>>151652293>Fuck Mike btw, in case you forgot, I fucking despise Mike. Mike Mike Mike Mike!
>>151652293It's also infuriatingly funny how her example of cagey is Mike, who confided in her, and not, you know, the one character that never fucking says what she wants or feels so everyone has to do their best to walk on eggshells around her
>>151652286The whole comic revolves around Mike and Lucy, it's just the way it is, which is why any ship that isn't Mucy is extremely unlikely to happen.>>151652301I wonder if this is a permanent thing, and if it is, why?>>151652338Yeah. I do remember I got pissed at the time, he had the perfect excuse to just drop that shit and never look back, but for no fucking reason he gleefully took her back, on the very next day, no less. No real person would do that man, the dude was all smiling and shit.>>151652353>>151652332Daisy sucks, I have zero doubts she would cheat on Paulo with Augustus under the right circumstances... and Augustus would still be painted as a hero even after the fact, knowing this comic.If Paulo cheated on her, he'd be crucified.
>>151652247>he ends up feeling bad for LucyIt's Maulover bros, I'm already writing the eulogyDaisy I'm rescinding any praise I gave you for resisting Lucyspace.
I assume we'll bring back Paulo's past and how he was a massive manwhore while engaging with Tess, Jasmine, Lucy, Jessica and Rachel.No? Okay.
>>151652301Leakers won
>>151652338Ending up "friends" with Lucy instead would not have been a better alternative.
I'm pretty sure she's done this mystery preview thing before, I wouldn't sound the alarm bells just yet.
>>151652496This is entirely due to him being yanked back into Lucyspace at the lunch table.
>>151652247KYS Mike>>151652293Only retards write like this.
>>151652452>he gleefully took her back, on the very next day, no less. No real person would do that man, the dude was all smiling and shitIt's super funny how Taeshi tried to retcon that into a suuuuper tough choice on Mike's part, one that tore him up inside...by posting a napkin doodle chapter that quickly got paywalled as a BCI entry.
The patreon page still isn't out.
>>151652247>Paisy is such a dogshit relationship that all they do is gossip about others' relationships while verbally insisting that they are in fact dating and in love.Great job Taeshi.
>>151652568Maybe Taeshi died and this was the last page pre-planned and scheduled uploaded made before her deathMaybe there is no Friday update Maybe we are finally free
>>151652565Her explanation from Mike's side is that Lucy traumatized him so bad with her suicide attempt that he thought Sandy would do it too if he denied her... well minus the part that ascribed any blame to Lucy of course, but that's the reason.
>>151652452>I got pissed at the time, he had the perfect excuse to just drop that shit and never look back, but for no fucking reason he gleefully took her backThe problem is that you're still at the level of 'Why character did X?' thinking, when you should instead go with 'Why the author did X?'.Ultimately, it is the author who should be the object of your ire, because she is responsible for everything that is happening.
I think I might actually dislike Daisy more than I dislike Lucy. Lucyspace is at least entertaining in an unintentional horror way. Daisy is just boring, stupid, and inconsiderate.>>151652604It's so nakedly forced because it has no actual substance.>"Remember reader- I mean Daisy">"I am Daisy's- I mean your boyfriend.">replaces a random panel's background with pink heartsSince Taeshi cannot for the life of her write an actual romance, Paisy is just clumsy "pair the spares."
>>151652247>They are ALL traitorous snakes>Paulo immediately takes Lucy's sideFucks sake just let Mike go full hermit and never associate with any of em ever again
>>151652490Man, I forgot that she literally promised not to do this. Fucking hate how Taeshi wants to have her cake and eat it, she's gone so far with the Table being randomly distant, shitty, and indifferent that I don't think they were really friends to begin with.
>>151652635I thought it was the belief he owed Sandy a second chance and the idea you are espousing is a fan assumption that makes a lot more sense.
>here is resubmission #26 of my essay on how this is all somehow Mike's fault and he is to be blamed for it
>>151652702It's one and the same, Sandy asked for Mike to take her back AFTER she had already done some radical changes in her life in the span of a couple hours. She changed her staff to get far from Francis, cancelled a good amount of scheduled work (implying she had to get in trouble with her overbearing mother) and decided to alter her whole schedule just to make more time for Mike. After how much importance she gave to her career Sandy (allegedly) doing all of that for him triggered his guilt, and Lucy came to mind and he didn't want to have more blood on his hands. That's the gist of it, he does tell Augustus he doesn't want a repeat
>>151652702Possibly but I swear Taeshi was implying Mike feared Sandy might do something drastic if he didn't take her back and that's the only explanation for it that made sense to me. Was that from the BCI?
>>151652677both are realistic women but daisy isn't foiding out hard enough to be interesting
>>151652452The inexcusable thing is that Mike came to school after the fact with a big dumb smile ignoring everyone around him, that's the most forced part after all that he went through and what followed. He had no reason to be putting up a front when next interactions don't show it again. It's such a dissonance that you can't blame the characters from thinking he's being sincere about it
>>151652802You mean Taeshi forcing massively ooc behavior for plot convenience. Mike forgetting all about Lucy that morning until he glanced her way (especially after what was shown in the BCI chapter), is complete bullshit.
>>151652677It'd be a win if she started having others ask wtf they see in each other, neither can answer, and both realize they're just desperate and settling.
>>151652694
>>151652834That's what I'm saying anon, yes, when I'm angry about the character not making sense I'm blaming the author for forcing her hand just to make things happen
>>151652700Reminder, the table had NO BEEF with Mike before the exile, they're just like this to him while they're bending for someone that was avoiding them on purpose and with full hostility
Yeah, I remember it actually made me even MORE pissed, like she was trying to pull an explanation out of her ass. That whole chapter felt rushed in every aspect.Plus, it doesn't really justify Mike acting all happy and shit. Like, I could accept it if in Eternal Flame Mike was all depressed and shit, like he only reluctantly took Sandy back, but that is not what happened, like I said, he was smiling and talking happily about how he and Sandy were fine and all.>>151652670I know, at the end of the day it's always just the writing not making any sense. The worst example of character assassination I've seen in recent chapters was with James; dude was kind, and head over heels for Mike at first, but then he suddenly did an 180º, not only becoming a vapid asshole that falls in love for the first person that runs fast that he sees, but also fully trusting and supporting a girl who treated him like shit (Lucy).
>>151652677Daisy was ruined and will neverEVER recover from Abbey shitshow.
>>151652270Okay, it came.
>>151652938This. They are just terrible friends and why Mike bothers with them when he is presumably supposed to be rather popular by background npcs is puzzling outside forced author bs.Though I guess under similar logic, Lucy could just reee hard enough and get the poor guy expelled somehow then say how she never wanted it
>>151652975>Daisy looking annoyedThank god, finally. I'd be pissed if all my boyfriend wanted to talk about is his oneitis and his gay crush. Actually, lmao: it's probably something much more stupid than that.
>>151652947I wonder if originally Lucy WASN'T supposed to be at that tree and Taeshi materialized her last second, Mike's actions make far more sense that way.And, fuck me, Lucy doesn't even mention it when claiming he strung her along after she kicked him.
>>151652947>Yeah, I remember it actually made me even MORE pissed, like she was trying to pull an explanation out of her ass. That whole chapter felt rushed in every aspect.This was in response to >>151652565 and >>151652635 btw
>>151652452>No real person would do that man, the dude was all smiling and shit.I'll never get over how she didnt just have sandy threaten suicide if Mike didn't take her back. Sandy was already shitty for cheating, so why pull back on her bitch level right then and there?
>>151652975>>151652993>But Daisy, what if it's nuanced?>And bother Lucy our goddes on earth? Shut up dog!
>>151652514This. Lucy would have gone back to treating him like shit as if December never happened. She's learned nothing since coming back. Nobody else would have called her out either. They would have just gone "Well, thinks are back to normal!" and all laugh happily after Lucy "lovingly" punches mike in the face for something harmless.
>>151652993It's actually the funniest panel in a long while.
I like how this comic can go from "Maybe something good might finally happen?" to "Lets discuss what kind of vengeful ghost Mike should become" in the space of two pages.
It's funny how Tae is willing to retcon certain conversations and most of early shit, but unwilling to retcon EF.
>>151653095Makes me wish the friend group were the antagonists, desu. It would make more sense.
>>151653052And you know this is Lucy's perfect game state, what she wants is things as they were, she wants a Mike that looks after her and chases her but doesn't want to ever correspond that, wants friends that expect nothing from her but still include her into everything and take her side. You could say the reason the nightmare is a thing comes from said friends not sacrifying themselves harder for her, pretty much betraying her expectations. She going back to her tsundere "and don't expect a relationship from me just because we're good" was a big telling of the kind of person she is, not because it's not true they both shouldn't be dating at all, but because she expects Mike to resume the cat and mouse game
>>151652802Exactly, the fact the he was happy is what makes it worse, and no, it did not look like he was forcibly faking it, he legit seemed happy about the fact that he and Sandy made up.>>151653011It would be better, yeah. It's likely Sandy is now already marked as a 'true evil villain the audience must hate', so might as well just make her use every card up her sleeve.>>151652995I don't know man, that tree is important for Mike and Lucy and all, it's likely Taeshi intended for it to be this super dramatic moment.
>>151653114The wrong person got the PTDS
>>151653143Considering how the comic is written, Miek should have been the one almost assaulted in the alleyway. Seeing how Lucy's dream is written, it would make more sense than her crazy ass.
>>151653143Pussy Thirsting for Dick Syndrome
>>151653139Remember when we though the tree would get torched back then?
>>151652995>And, fuck me, Lucy doesn't even mention it when claiming he strung her along after she kicked himBecause Lucy did initiate the kiss, not Mike, and Taeshi has said as much, but she's riding the fact her art doesn't make that clear to keep readers angry at him while knowing she can't use that as a point against him because she despises her ideas not getting through, as forced as they might be, which is why the phone call with Sandy got 4 revisions and none solved the main problem
>>151652670I cant understand why its so difficult for most readers to understand why mike took her back. I've been mike in that situation (albeit without a rebound) and there's times i would have absolutely taken back "sandy", especially right after we broke up. Mike has a confrontational relationship with nearly all of his friends by that point, and his family is more demanding than supportive. On top of that, between lucy and his family, most of his life has been people emotionally or materially depending on him, and him caving to that. So when sandy, the one person HE emotionally depends on, cheats on him, he doesn't just automatically have other people to rely on. He had the rebound with lucy but hes spent the last few months watching everyone pay attention to her over him and with her blaming him for her suicide, i dont think one night necessarily turns around his entire relationship with her. Of course the logical thing would be to turn down sandy and see where it goes with everyone else, but mike is lonely and his codependent relationship with sandy makes him think that he still needs her and that she wont be able to take care of herself without him. Havent some of you at least had a friend that got back with a shitty cheating ex, even with better options out there? To me its quite realistic for mike to do what he did.
>>151652247Okay, I gonna admit that boy-drunk, selfish, stupid, horny Daisy is kinda cute. They still shouldn't be dating, tho.
>>151653187Considering how the comic is written it would make sense if it turned out everyone was shaken by Confrontation but Lucy A: refuses to do any self-care even after taking her tour through the mental health system, B: constantly reexposes herself to Alejandro's goon, when being in Augustus' house was what triggered the first episode.But no, Lucy's got the monopoly on Trauma™
>>151653246I get it. I think the big problem is that the call after was paywalled where Sandy has a meltdown so most people just saw Mike suddenly take her back the next day after how mich of a bitch she was when dumping him.
>>151653264Yes, but only Lucy matters. We still didn't get a logical explanation for why her nightmares restarted. We also don't know if her nightmares have continued or gotten worse now, actually. Looiggcally, it should be geting worse. >Paulo only stuck around cause I guilt-tripped him, not cause he cares.In Lucy's Mind. After all, she wouldn't have do e what she did if she thought he was just gonna check on Mike. She thought he would stay and take Mike's side. I wonder what could make her think that.
>>151653246You would understand if you were in fact a man and if it had really happened to you. The only thing Mike can hide behind now is the “I'm a dumb teenager” argument
>>151652995Lucy is responding to what Mike says here with a completely unjustified "no u," but a part of me thinks "she strung me along" on this page was a last-second replacement of dialogue, and what actually fits best there was about the physical abuse.Taeshi needed Mike to accuse Lucy of something that she wouldn't end up proving true two panels later, so now we have the "stringing along" bullshit instead.>>151653246Immature and/or BPD audience. Lucyfags and Mikefags are two sides of the same coin - they want everyone to pick a side, and anyone who doesn't fully pick a side is the enemy, both in and outside the comic. For Mikefags, Sandy is the enemy because she wronged their blorbo, so she must be purely evil and anything that suggests she might not be pure evil is difficult for them to process. It's just black and white thinking with a bit of tribalism thrown in.
>>151652247>Mike might get some sympathy for being cheated on?>Quick, make it all about how he messed with Lucy!I agree that was entirely on him, but not at least give Paulo a moment to process the cheating revelation at least? It literally validates everything bad he said about Sandy.
>>151653139Her not being there would make more sense and still be dramatic. Just have Mike there, alone, crying over how shitty his relationships are. No one comes, he trots home alone exhausted, then Sandy calls him back.
>>151653309Not only was it paywalled and revised 4 times because people kept complaining about it, all of it happened in a couple of hours, while supposedly it was so early on Sandy's side she was still sleeping before a job, and her tale of guilt needs to fit everything within that time frame, including important changes to her career like cancelling shows, breaking up and firing the guy she was so excited about finally being able to date, and arranging her whole schedule. It also marked the start of an upset with Suitcase, since showing nothing and making Mike react happily next day was his idea "to keep it interesting" and since then she's been having this air of animosity about him. Which is just funny
>>151653414anyone who doesn't fully pick a side is a fenceshitter who delude themselves into thinking they are some kind of enlightened adult*FTFY
>>151653479You proved his point by the way.
>>151653479i fully pick the side that you are a retard. how's that?
>>151652938Beefs don't necessarily factor into it. Mike's long term issue is that everyone takes him for granted. People getting pissy toward him for stupid reaaons is just one potential form of ingratitude.
>>151653427I want to bet she saw all the negative feedback about Lucy pulling the leash on Paulo and people calling him a soggy wet bitch and decided she couldn't have that, so now he has an excuse to be angry at Mike and once again have Lucy as this poor little baby who suffers and suffers, past fightings are forgotten and the reset button has been pressed once more. Ta-da! Now Lucy is just saving misguided Paulo from giving Mike attention he doesn't deserve
>>151652987Taeshi has accidentally made the case that Mike is mentally ill, because she has offered no better explanation for his attachment to these people.
>>151653095Everyone harbors an instinctive need for justice to be done, yes.
This comic would be actually incredible if it was written about BPDemons instead of by/for them.
>>151653508I have to bring that up because a common argument is that Mike spent a good while being a sperg goblin at these people and that should be enough to sever any good will with them, but him making peace with them and apologizing highlights that at the end of the day there really is just favoritism at the table
>>151653494>>151653503>No argumentGood to know. Now I suggest going back to elementary school
>>151652247>surely it's just gonna be Daisy saying Mike got cheated on and Paulo will get angry and finally take a stand for his friend, right?>SIKES IT'S ANOTHER "oh no poor poor innocent lucy mike is a monster" EPISODEOH MY GOD BRUUUUUUUUUUUH
>>151653537Well, she destroyed his home life and his parents' marriage, so maybe Mike feels trapped, and these weird, bad relationships are normal to Mike's life, and he is a bad person for wanting something to appear to not be as toxic. Be it in friends or love.>>151653578>highlights that at the end of the day there really is just favoritism at the tableThey literally all had a group table meeting because he didn't accept Lucy's confession back then. There has always been favoritism.Lucy could actually do pic, and the next day they would all pretend nothing happened or make excuses.
>>151653494>>151653503Whenever I get a reply that's just "let me do exactly the thing you ragged on people for doing" I assume it's bait.
>>151653414>For Mikefags, Sandy is the enemy because she wronged their blorbo, so she must be purely evil and anything that suggests she might not be pure evil is difficult for them to processSandy is pure evil because of the person who is writing the comic.
>>151652247Yeah, this isn't even trying to hide that rest of the comic will be "Point and laugh how things just getting worse and worse for HIM, readers. Feel sorry but laugh, dark comedy or something I dunno" for a while or until the very end, and with dropped to Ao3 revenge fanfic level bare minimum amount of efforts, why continue bothering with it? Fan stuff is way more joyful. And on that topic...>>151636373You don't suggest the idea of bellyrubs without drawing bellyrubs. We need that fixed asap
>>151653602Did you expect anything less?
>>151653414Not really. Its a pretty lopsided coin with Lucy objectively being way more in the wrong amd purposely exacerbating things while pretending and gaslighting.As for Sandy, it was noted she is dealing with a psycho career mom, but fucking around behind a dudes back rather than being straight with him and ending things is just an objectively bitch move. She was also written as pretty harsh and nonchalant about it at the time before suddenly getting 180d out of nowhere just after the Lucy talk. Shit was weird
>>151653644Bellyrubs are nice and all. But those tits are just begging to be groped!
>>151653644Bury your face in her belly Mike
>>151653644>>151636373DrawGODS...
>>151653682She'd have to put his hands there herself tho
>>151653644>>151653652Nice, very nice
>>151653637Honestly, that's a fair rebuttal - as somebody with BPD herself, Taeshi struggles with nuance the same exact way. It's entirely possible that Sandy will eventually have any positive qualities erased because the author herself thinks in black and white terms.>>151653668The coin I'm referring to has very little to do with the characters themselves and everything to do with the tribal spergouts over them. Doesn't matter how relatively "justified" either side is, it's still the same kind of immaturity.
>>151653644Building a better story/timeline one drawing at a time! Cant wait till the wedding arc
>>151653710>immaturityHere we go again with pretending to be mature, eh?
>>151653710The tribal spergouts you make up?
>>151653710Anon, as much as it is tribalism you can't really compare one side to the other when once side "has god on their side" and the other could be described as "offended on character's behalf" without including the author's bias into the equation, the character analysis is not in a vacuum when there's a clear preference that includes editing old chapters to fit the narrative and constantly telling you which side to hate in the guise of "ironic jokes"
>>151653751He's right they happen in almost every thread, stop being a disingenuous weirdoAnyway >Next page Paulo shits on Sandy and says he hates her for fucking up Mike>Quote Daisy: Why are you blaming it on Sandy, none of us know the reason she cheated!
>>151653246I don't have a problem understanding why he took her back, it's just Taeshi made Mike a retard for how he took her back. Mike broke down in that call thinking about Lucy, and the morning after he straight up ignored Lucy in favor of Sandy, couldn't even pretend or be tactful. We know Mike has a preference for Sandy but c'mon.
>>151653821>Why are you blaming it on Sandy, none of us know the reason she cheated!What the fuck
>>151653821Stop pretending to be your own girls bathroom support group.
>>151653821"Best friend" Daisy"Emotional support" Daisy"You can trust me with your problems" Daisy"I'm on your side always" DaisyI guess she got a boyfriend so every other guy (except Abbey and Augustus and...) can go fuck themselves
Cmon, most of us are only here for the fanart/OCs/fanfics. We all know that this shit will end with magically forced Mucy(something that no sane person wants) or with Taeshi's death lol
>>151653855If true,>>151652452 is square on the money. I take what I said about Daisy being a potentially better girlfriend then Lucy or sandy. Fuck her, if its true. Daisy has no reason to try and run defense for sandy.
>>151653821What the fuck Daisy?
>>151653793What's funny is they're repeatedly proving the black and white tribalism thing, which is exactly what they have in common with Lucyfags. That's the coin. That's literally it.Evidently they can't process the nuance that having something in common with Lucyfags doesn't mean I'm saying they are "exactly as wrong as Lucyfags." Between the two groups, Mikefags are absolutely the more reasonable... but it doesn't make them all that different in practice from Lucyfags in their behavior, which is what I'm comparing.
>>151653821Was Mike happy with Sandy before she broke up with him?
>>151653889If there ever is a double date involving both Mandy and Paisy, I guess that Daisy would absolutely try to make out with Sandy the moment they are both alone.
>>151653909Yeah, the girl has some serious gall when she forcefully kissed Mike.
>>151653414The physical abuse was definitely alluded to, but yeah, it's very in keeping with Taeshi's idea of "nuance" to try to obfuscate things.I wish the Mikefags would stop unironically repeating Lucy's delusions but with "Lucy" find-replaced with "Mike":>[Mike] has no real friends, they're all merely tolerate him and drop him on a dime!>It's not that [Mike] never asks for help, screeches at anyone who offers, and storms off in a huff - they should just try harder to get through [his] walls!>Sure, [Mike] is sour, judgemental, hung up on things from years back, paranoid, and zones out any time the topic isn't [him]self, but [he]'s right - no, it's not a self-fulfilling prophecy!>[Mike] is actually really sweet and kind at heart, look at this example in a chapter where [Mike] only showed up for 2 pages>Look how pitiable and sad [Mike] is that everyone's leaving [him] alone like [he] asked them to. These "friends" are nothing but traitorous snakes!
So this is what having a centrist schizo is like.
>>151653949Shitcord in full force today
>>151653914>What's funny is they're repeatedly proving the black and white tribalism thing, which is exactly what they have in common with LucyfagsThat's something that is being insisted upon but not shown. So far this thread we have one anon painting every Mikefag with a wide brush, declaring what they think about Sandy without anything to back it up.
>>151653957Does >>151652338 seem like they like Sandy to you, anon?
>>151653953I doubt they're centrist at all, although I have no idea how they're faring after anon said they were having a civil war... which I guess this page was supposed to quel by exclaiming loudly HEY REMEMBER YOURE SUPPOSED TO BE MAD ABOUT THIS
>>151653949Anti-Mikefag going for the repectability route, I think.
I really hope Daisy doesn't flake out on Mike cause this is what she said after the kiss
>>151653970"They?" A single response that doesn't even demonize the character, and somehow you get a "they" out of that? You see this as some kind of support? Really?
>>151653970Anon, this is correct. He is not happy with Sandy. Her cheating has completely destroyed the relationship for Mike who was ready not too happy with the talking schedule.
>>151653957>That's something that is being insisted upon but not shown.It's being shown in this very thread: look at all the anons going "Daisy and Paulo aren't ignoring what Mike says in order to do what he NEEDS? What snakes!"
>>151653998I think this page and the alleged followup neatly demonstrate that Daisy is, in fact, a flake.
>>151653930Nonsense, anon. Mike is good and pure and anyone who doesn't do exactly what he needs at all times is the enemy. These are also the same people who failed to realize that Paulo had no idea what happened outside and got mad at him for not reading Mike's mind from the lunch table. Sound familiar?
>>151654014That's not even what is being said.
Girls you're both getting flustered about cat drama comics on fucking 4chan. Take a break and come back later
>>151654019Who isn't a flake when it comes to Mike? Mike is even a flake to his own body.
>>151653821>But WHY did she cheat on Mike?
Hey everyone Im late and kinda lost about the anons fighting so what's today's topics? How much Lucy sucks vs Mikefags here mikefas there allucinations? Why do i read Lucy at all if the chapter is not about her?
>>151654029You sure do like assaulting strawmen.
>>151654029You moron. People were mad at his ass for bending to Lucy when he is supposedly Mike's best friend. Lucy herself outloud to him and everyone said Mike might need the sympathy and James acting weird.
>>151654053Some people pointed out how much they act like Lucyfags, so they immediately started acting like Lucyfags. News at 11.
>>151654029Link every post
>>151654067Your scrote-less sockpuppetting is surely your most charming quirk.
>>151654053That last bit is because the chapter started with a false hope that Paulo would be mildly interested in finding out what happened and why Mike's like that but now will be about how taking back Sandy hurt Lucy, turning it back to be about her and putting more dirt on Mike's anorexic grave
>EVERYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS THE SAME PERSON
>>151654053Jewtreon brigading. Just ignore them
>>151654091And who are we accusing this of today?
>AND JEWISH
It's the same thing every thread, I don't know why you guys keep falling for it
I like how one anon really thinks that sockpuppetting as multiple people who just so happen to leap into action to defend his "points" at the exact same time thinks he(?)'s being subtle.
>>151654130Mocking the incompetent shit stirrer is falling for it?
>>151654167Yes? Do you think that's not a reaction they expect?
>>151654067Nah, Lucyfags actually have the power to get people they don't like kicked out of their safe spaces. These anons are just screeching into the void.>>151654153>>151654167>whines about 'sockpuppeting'>posts exactly 61 seconds apartThe correct term is "samefagging," anon. Sockpuppets are fake accounts.
>>151653644Bite his hand! and suck his fingers
>>151654153You mean>>151653949>>151653953Yeah it's pretty blatant, as if anyone else is going to sperg out over a lukewarm centrist post
>>151654084>Everyone who disagrees with me is samefagging!Oh, fuck off.
>>151654201Are you under the impression I'm not allowed to make multiple posts in a single thread?
>>151654220You aren't subtle, dude. It's annoying and cowardly.
>>151653414 (me)>It's just black and white thinking with a bit of tribalism thrown in.Alright, maybe it's a LOT of tribalism. I suppose I should have seen this coming, all the discord and patreon exiles congregate here after all. It's not like normal people are paying for this comic.>>151654235I wonder who you think that is. Because it's not me.If anything's annoying and cowardly, it's being unable to conceptualize the idea that more than one person disagrees with you.
damn ok thanks anons! the chapter is really that boring we gotta improvise something huh
>>151654235You are a moron, anon.
>>151654263Such is Paisy.
>>151654263Well yeah. It goes from a major revelation that Paulo knows sandy cheated on Mike to fucking being about Lucy.
>>151654235I've never seen someone crash out so hard over nothing
>>151652247Fuck, they're so adorable together. Also, Mike took his waifu Sandy back, she didn't take him back. She begged for him back and he took her.Before I forget, throwing out an art suggestion for a JordanxAgatha or EllenxMike kitten.
Man...I hate I got on this ride and hate that I don't want off of it
>>151653821>Why are you blaming it on SandyOh that's cool, somebody's finally pushing against blaming everything on Sand->none of us know the reason she cheated!picrelPaulo you gotta get the fuck out of there dude
>>151652452>Daisy cheating on Paulo with Aug.Taeshi would fucking do it if she was in the mood too.
>>151654277>And if Lucy isn't in the screen someone should say "remember poor Lucy"
>>151654261When a "bunch" of sneering assholes come out of the woodwork, all at once, screech at anyone who disagrees with "them," all just happen to share the exact same opinion, and quip to "each other" about how they are so right, it's not exactly hard to see what is happening. It's the domain of the castrated who can't actually argue in good faith.
>>151653855Loneliness, and Francis was readily available.
>>151654318I wish we get some Paulo vs Daisy vs Aug vs Rachel shitshow.
>>151653821>Mike, with tears in his eyes, hurt and confused, confides in Daisy that he was cheated on and it feels so unfair to him >"Well what if it's his fault?"Remember anon, people who won't fuck you don't deserve your friendship, according to this comic
>>151654330>sneering assholesNot your hugbox
>>151654331Maybe talk or break up with your boyfriend if you think he isn't handling your feelings of loneliness well. You cannot use the teenager excuse since sandy was repeatedly seeing Francis according to her own words. Always been a terrible excuse for repeating bad behavior.
>>151652247Please Alejandro show up and free us from all these terrible fucks
>>151654367Mike really should've fucked and mindbreak that fatso after that kiss. Oh well
>>151654336Aug is still on a golden boy pedestal, wait until Taeshi's BPD determines him as a suspicious individual again, then he'll be a creepy rapist again.
>>151654367>Daisy, Lucy just shoved a baseball bat up Mike's hole and laughed while clicking him down>"I believe it's more nuanced than that"
>>151652247So with this Mike is officially at zero (0) allies in his life, right?I mean technically he still ahs his sister, I guess, but I give it a month before he's disinherited from the entire family.
>>151653821>Daisy breaks her promise to keep Mike's secret>then doubles down with damaging speculation>then plays devil's advocate that Mike might have deserved to be cheated on.>all for a girl who has forgotten that she exists and last time they spoke passive aggressively called her fatSo what, she wants to mash clams or cheat on Paulo or both? Yeah, ok, I think I'm done. BCB is just making me feel sick these days. I don't even want to see the Lucy torture, this is just nasty.gofile dot io/d/azaQjs
>>151654524The lengths a chaos elemental has to go to in an effort to play favorites.
>>151654447He can still try now. Worked for agustus.
>>151653821I only hope this devolves into an argument where Paulo gets upset Daisy can justify cheating, anything to make that relationship warmer than ham in the fridge
>>151653930In this chapter we've had>mikes new friend dropped him on a dime>david shows up and announces everyone will drop him on a dime if it means getting lucy back>paulo agrees to drop him on a dime due to emotional blackmailand now daisy vomiting out everything told to her in confidence and throwing in some extra speculation that makes him seem worse. Its not paranoia when they really are out to get you.
>>151653644Wunderbar.
>>151653855nta but wasn't sandy groomed
>>151654675You just made me realize Taeshi can force the angle that, by "going after" James while feeling like shit for being cheated on Mike was just using him to make himself feel better and took the chance from Paulo's grasp, giving more powder for the whole "stringing along" narrative
>>151654648How would Mike mindbreak anyone. He's three foot tall, he can't exactly overpower a girl unless we're talking Haley or Amaya.>>151654670At some point Paulo will need to accept that Daisy still wants Augustus to force her into a dark alleyway and have his way with her.>>151654721No, she's just a hoe. Taeshi suggested Francis was older but backpedaled that when people got upset that she may have been groomed.
>>151654330>Everyone who disagrees with me is samefagging and mean :(What are you, a fuckin' BCB character? Christ.>>151654387>Maybe talk or break up with your boyfriendIn fairness, Sandy *technically* did both of those things. She just did them AFTER cheating (I think, the timeline in this comic is incoherent).
>>151654675Paranoia doesnt fit this, its just Rational Suspicion or even pattern recognition at this point.
>>151654721In what sense? I hope the rationalizing you're going for is that cheating on Mike was a result of her being manipulated?
>>151654750>backpedaled that when people got upset that she may have been groomed.lol anything to make Sandy look like a devil
>>151654525The rest of the track team is still up in the air and are familiar with James' flakiness. That said, Mike will probably avoid them or they will be turned against him somehow too.
>>151654769Look at it this way, anon. If they're wrong and paranoid, then the alleged samefag is not actually a dickless coward who hides behind fake skirts like a shivering little yippy rat dog, so it's all good.
>>151654785Nah I'm sure she realized people would give her some leeway if it could be implied she was being groomed and didn't want that because it would take responsibility from her>>151654750If in another attempt at pottery Daisy starts taking Augustus side "you don't know him like I do" included as she did while dating Abbey I'll stop calling her a hack... for a month or two
>>151653821>Why are you blaming it on Sandy, none of us know the reason she cheated!No fuckin way. You gotta be bullshitting me on Daisy saying this.
>>151654750>How would Mike mindbreak anyone. He's three foot tall, he can't exactly overpower a girl unless we're talking Haley or Amaya.Same way agustus was gonna but Mike actually has physical strength, you know, when taeshi remembers that.
>>151654923Anon the last time Mike tried to mind break someone they jumped off a roof, he's too powerful
>>151654721>nta but wasn't sandy groomed>>151653821>Daisy: Why are you blaming it on Sandy, none of us know the reason she cheated!That's bullshit, look at this page here, when she is confessing that she cheated on Mike. She legit liked that Francis dude.
>>151654975>"It's my fault, isnt it?"This nigga really needs an adult or an older brother figure to tell him it isn't. The hoes aren't loyal, Michael.
>>151654675James was a set-up from the get go, so he is a snake. David is a snake too, though I question if it counts as betrayal since he's always been openly malicious.But Paulo didn't agree to drop Mike, and just a few pages ago tried to go "Hey Mike, what's *your* side of the story? You alright?", only to get Mike going "m'fine, leave me alone". Daisy has always been crap at keeping secrets, that's been an established trait since forever, but it's still probably for the best in this specific case. Even if Paulo could extract an explanation from Lucy, Augustus, or Mike himself, it'd end with "And that's why Mike/I is/am worthless scum who deserves worse" - Daisy is the only possible source who's at all sympathetic to Mike.My point is that Mike is creating a no-win situation for himself and others: either they try to get past his walls, in which case they'll have violated his boundaries and not listened to him. Or they accept what he says, in which case they aren't helping him when he needs it. Kind of like Lucy did, only with less making it everyone else's problem
>>151654775His reaction in the last page was just resignation really. At this point if Daisy lets slip she broke confidence in the next page there may not even be a blowup about it, he might just quietly put that with the rest of the shit he's dealing with and internalise it.
>>151655067There's not a single person in Roseville Mike can rely on, Lucy latching onto him sentenced him to a life of relationships where he's just convenient. Also his parents are fighting and probably divorcing so it's a perfect storm where they won't notice their kid is not eating at all
>>151655087>Paulo didn't agree to drop MikeHe literally replies to "hey I'm holding you to that time you said you'd stop being friends with him" with "you're right, Lucy is the important one"
>>151655087>But Paulo didn't agree to drop MikeHe literally did. It was the entire point of Lucy even bringing that line up last chapter, Paulo even said Lucy is more important and sat right back down.>>151655067Maybe his fucking dad can do some parenting.
>>151655121>There's not a single person in Roseville Mike can rely onThis
>>151653644DrawGOD. Nice touch with the yellow scarf, gotta compliment his woman.
>>151654750>Taeshi suggested Francis was older but backpedaledIf this was the case, it seems like she's forwardpedaling now. This post is fairly recent.
>>151655121>There's not a single person in Roseville Mike can rely onThis comic really works better if the idea is that the main guy rejecting the main tsundere girl for someone nicer leads to things breaking down for him on an almost meta level.He broke a universal law so now he's trying surive its punishment or find a way to reverse it that isn't just becoming Lucy's abuse victim forever.
>>151655202This might be far too correct, its been a while but was the first time Mike's abuse led to serious injury when he protested against it?
>>151653998Remember what James said at the end of the movie date and how much of a flake he ended up being? Her saying that shit above is probably correct.>>151655198>"She would have killed us if she knew what we were up to, haha!"God, those backshots were diabolical and Mike is just there listening to her talk about it.Taeshi said there's a reason sandy's trying so hard to win him back but i'm not sure what it could be and if it would even be satisfying enough.
>>151655255>if it would even be satisfying enoughThat goes for the entire comic at this point.
>>151655198Guess I'll post the rest of my haul from the tumblr mines while I'm at it. Both of these are responses to really long posts, so I just left some of the end for context.I'm not sure why she chose to include that image at the end
>>151655138>He literally did.Back then, but he's not following through with that NOW, he just got blackmailed - which only works because he's (rightfully) ashamed of being a dumb asshole. He still went to Mike and asked what's going on and if he could help, but Mike brushed him off.
>>151655255>Mike realises his relationship Sandy is not good for him>Sandy was using him to disassociate from some serious shit, she winds up following the Lucy playbook>Mike blames himself again, spiralsDrag it out over ten years or so and you have a comic.
>>151655290David is just astonishingly awful, and Taeshi's insistence that he's great and funny is the worst part.
>>151655290She really likes doing this "from a point of view" shit to justify her writing choices, huh?
>>151655290I mighta included too much of this one but I couldn't exclude that paragraph at the top there.Interestingly I think Taeshi's response kinda debunks the post's premise that Lucy is just doing some Machiavellian maturity test for Mike's sake. Like the post says>lucy sees paulo as irrational, unreliable, and reactive. so she tests to see if he’s actually capable of being mature here. has he grown enough to realize that theres no point in taking sides when someone is suffering?but Lucy was actually focusing pretty hard on whose side Paulo was on
>>151653644Very cute Anon, can't wait to see more!He HAS to go to town and even blow on her tummy for good extra measure
>>151655290>look guys there was a bit more to my one-note piece of shit garbage non-character exactly one (1) time!
>>151655198>>151655290>>151655348Sometimes I'd like to see the kinda questions that don't make it through Suitcase's filter, this is Tumblr so being buddy buddy with author of "suicide is badass" and "rape is ok when a girl does it" is the strangest part of this
>>151655255>God, those backshots were diabolical and Mike is just there listening to her talk about it.Disgusting, isn't it? Ain't no fucking way any real person would just sit there and listen to that crap.
>>151655348Whatever Lucy's endgame for all this crap is, I hope it ends up being a giant Monkey's Paw for her.
>>151655434>Assuming Lucy has an endgame>Assuming this comic will ever reach endgame
>>151655348The more taeshi talks, the more Lucy just comes of like a toxic pyshco bitch. I think I see a bit why suitcase thinks ambugity might be a better idea.
>>151655348>THE PROMISE!Oh my fucking god! Why is she suddenly trying to make that some big moral ball and chan when LUCY HERSELF slapped Paulo down about it because she would have to take responsibility directly.
>>151655348That sounds very controlling. Is this being presented as a good thing? Nobody appreciates shit tests and double binds.
>>151655434>Whatever Lucy's endgame for all this crap isIt's Mike. Even when she pretends it's not him, even when she isn't aware of it, it's always been Mike, and will always be Mike.
>>151655585Too bad for Lucy that she'll have an empty husk of the person she wanted, and it'll be her fault.
>>151655526Lucy literally pulled old receipts under the fridge like "you wrote letters to Sandy" the same chapter, I'm not surprised she runs a book of grudges
>>151655643That's why taeshi should just make her a villain at this point. She has all these receipts and went "It wasnt my fault for my falling out with Mike! It was his for liking sandy!" about everything.Just lean into her being a shitty person already.
>>151655714Taeshi whitewashed the groomer and sexual predator. What makes you think Lucy will be treated as the villain?
>>151654975>She legit liked that Francis dude.Unfortunately this doesn't prove it wasn't grooming. It's fairly common.
>>151655620Not like she cares about Mike the person, it's always been the principle of the matter
>>151655620which is what she wants, bpdemons are empty husks
>>151655741Francis and Alejandro at the senior table arc when?
>>151655744Perhaps, but it'd be funny if her friends realized she broke down Mike until he couldn't say no. and said she was no different than Augustus.
>>151653602You people treat these developments as if they were bad things, but in truth this allgood for Mike. He's losing his last tethers to Earth.Sever his last connections and his mind will finally be able to escape Samsara and ascend beyond this plane. It is the only way to escape Lucyspace.
>>151655788>I never wanted it, and none of you tried to stop it!There
>>151655859Yeah, she loves handing things off to lackeys unless it's hurting Mike.
Is she though?
>>151655535Isn't the answer to this to just take the door on the right? the left says "dont take me" and the right says "you have to take me"picture unrelated
Real talk, having Lucy be diagnosed with BPD in universe would do a lot for her. It would explain so many of her actions and you could actually form a possibly decent arc around that.
>>151656031Wouldn't that just give the author an excuse to handwave everything she's done as "not actually her fault"? Like yeah I get it but it would be convenient
>>151655834>It is the only way to escape Lucyspace.She'd find a way to bring Mike back to life or chain his soul to her because he can't be allowed to rest in peace ever
>>151655834He has accepted life is a cycle of suffering and begun fasting, he even has a tree to meditate under.
>>151656117>It's finally over Lucy, I have achieved true selflessness and been enlightened>how selfish, get back down here
>>151656047DID SOMEONE SAY "CONVENIENT"? I HATE CONVENIENCEI WILL LITERALLY DESTROY ALL LIFE IN THE GALAXY IF THINGS APPEAR CONVENIENT
>>151656117>BCI about Lucy's ghost haunting Mike>It ends with Lucy being actually regretful about suicide and spending her time as CAR BRAND's ghost godmother>BCI about Mike's ghost being chained to Lucy would be a story of torment for Mike where Lucy gets what she finally wanted and uses him as her own ethereal teddy bear
>>151656117>"NO, LUCYSATTVA! I MUST ESCAPE SAMSARA, DO NOT REINCARNATE ME!">Get in the tree, Mike. It's a great tree, the best.
>>151655087Your point sucks. First explain WHY he should trust these people at all, given what just happened and the supposed next page spoilers, then we can talk aboit whether Mike is or is not trying hard enough.
>>151655774Perhaps Suitcase was a good person, once upon a time...
>>151655744Mike knew that.>>151656254I mean, it's a possibility. He did get roped in with Taeshi when they were as young as fuck.
>>151656254Suitcase made a forum user's tag a joke about his dead girlfriend cucking him in the afterlife, and then mocking him for being upset about it. He is genuine poison, and unlike Taeshi he's fully responsible for every awful thing he does.
>>151655067That one redditor who complained that Amy is a Manic Pixie Dream Girl fails to realize that, even if not a girlfriend, it is basically canon that Mike genuinely just requires a singular person who is unabashedly in his corner and actively working in his interests to resolve a good 90% of his problems. The Track Team had the potential to be that, but James has poisoned that well.
>>151656550I stand by there being nothing wrong with MPDGs. Not even unique to male romances, having them either since it's just a pretty boy instead.
>>151656254>>151656353Who was the true real life Mike?
>>151655255>Taeshi said there's a reason sandy's trying so hard to win him back but i'm not sure what it could be and if it would even be satisfying enough.Francis totally panicked when his little underaged fucktoy broke up with her boyfriend and came to him with "Now we can truly be together" and made a break for the border, and then Sandy went crawling back to Mike because she needed that sweet unshaking loyalty and devotion he had been giving her before.
>>151656550It's legit mind boggling that Mike has such a shitty draw with people when it comes to this. Like, the guy's luck is ass because everyone keeps leaving him.They don't even abandon him for different reasons. All of them end up doing it for the same thing. Lucy.
>>151655255The reason is Francis clearly not wanting something serious, he just wanted to fuck her while Mike did all the boring boyfriend stuffSandy dumps Mike thinking she can make Francis her boyfriend and has to crawl back to Mike when it doesn't work out, there's not even a guarantee Francis isn't still around, the only reason Mike believes it is Sandy's word which is clearly worthless.
>>151656717That or him not wanting to fuck em
>>151656550The issue with that redditard first and foremost is that he was trying to stick a trope onto a fan character that only has a few illustrations and short but sweet comics to her name like she was an actual, long-time running character
>>151656771I swear, "people only wanting you for your body" was a thing Lucy had a fear of in the comic at one point.
>>151656221>First explain WHY he should trust these people at allOkay.>They're (mostly) Mike's friends in the first place.>Mike starts being bitter not just towards Lucy, but to everyone - they keep hanging out with him and inviting him to their parties anyways.>Lucy does a flip, Mike immediately assumes everyone will turn on him. Instead they try to share sympathy and support with him, making him feel guiltier.>While everyone is "mourning" Lucy, Mike cracks and explains he called her an unlovable parasite - STILL gets sympathy over how lonely and abused he felt, and everyone shares stories about how Lucy (who was why they were sad in the first place) was "difficult".>While Lucy is away Mike picks up several new hobbies courtesy of his friends introducing him.>Goes on a date with Sandy - she verbally obliterates Daisy, but Daisy contains herself until Mike and Sandy leave.>Slams Paulo into the table nose-first, gets apologized TO by Paulo.>Sue and Daisy both assume Lucy will forgive Mike and rejoin the social circle now that she's back - note that they DON'T assume Mike will apologize/forgive Lucy.>After several instances each of Mike screeching at them for no reason, Paulo and Daisy are still happy to see him smiling and immediately congratulate him on talking things out with Sandy.>Mike is SAD - Abbey, Daisy, Paulo, and Sue all take different turns going "what's wrong, Mike?" and trying to help with varying degrees of success, but Mike ultimately waves them all off.>Mike apologizes for screeching, apologies are immediately accepted and called unnecessary, no questions asked.>Lucy, Augustus, and David pull every card they have: guilt-tripping Mike, physical violence, magic gaslighting, playing on compassion, lolrandum 4th wall bullshit, and blackmail, all to get Lucy in and Mike out.>Even with Mike actively cooperating, this state of affairs lasts less than 5 pages before Paulo is going "Yo Mike, things are getting weird. Are you okay?"
>>151656868I like how your analysis ignores all the points *against* why they should be friends. Today's page, for example.
>>151656843Taeshi lazily reused Lucy's own plot arc in a clumsy attempt to build pottery? Impossible!
>>151656617There is no such person. Mike, like the other 3 main characters, is built purely out of anime cliches. Lucy was the tsundere and Paulo was the rival, but Taeshi liked them enough to flesh them out with newer, more interesting anime cliches, like emotional instability, suicidal tendencies, bursting into tears, and using sex to fill the void in their self-worth.Unfortunately Mike and Daisy never got the same courtesy - they're more or less still just "nice guy harem protagonist straight man" and "destined-to-lose childhood friend", respectively.
>>151657004But Lucy was proven wrong and still treats Paulo like ass. Mike was proven right.The fucking fact that the bombshell that Sandy cheated on Mike is made about Lucy is still dogshit. Mike never cheated on Lucy. She made sure they were never together. Despite her little gutcheck. Mie was right.
Actually, the better question is. Why the fuck is it so important to Lucy that Mike isn't with Sandy? Lucy herself told Mike to take a step back and not rush into a relationship with her, and stay friends. Burying the hatchet(Like Mike suggested before she decided to be the Rao's mascot) has no bearing on Mike's relationship status unless Lucy is full of shit.
>>151656988I like how you can't read, because I mentioned both this and last chapter in that post, dipshit.
>>151657136Because she says one thing and means another. Like when she pushed him away when Mike wanted to hook up with her in the first fucking place before Sandy. She didnt want him to respect what she said. She wanted him to rape her on the spot despite her protests
>>151657136Because Lucy is hyper competitive, it's not about her not having Mike but someone else doing so. So what if she cheated on him and it's obvious he's not into her anymore? That's still pissing on her property. Lucy is very all or nothing
>>151657144NTA, you are still wrong. We are literally in a chapter where Daisy broke Mike's trust, and next page, she actually might try and defend Sandy cheating on Mike.There is zero reason to trust Daisy; Sue has shown herself untrustworthy as fuck & ontineus to hold grudges after supposedly ending them, and we have shown that Paulo will bend to pressure and change on the drop of a hat.
>>151657136>Lucy herself told Mike to take a step back and not rush into a relationship with herYeah, but Mike failed to recognize than in response to that he was SUPPOSED to grab her by the neck and rape her into a bloody mess. The dumbass couldn't catch the obvious message.
>>151657144Yes, the current chapter was mentioned. No, Paulo checking on Mike does not magically cover for what Daisy just did/is about to do. Why on Earth are you acting like it should?
>>151652247Lmao look at Paulo's hand 2nd/3rd panels, his wrist is fucking broken.
>>151657211This
>why doesn't Mike confide in Paulo?Because he TRIED to confide in Paulo and then Paulo gossiped about everything Mike told him and started throwing it in his face in front of everyone? Why is this even a question, the bar is so low that Lucy is unironically a better confidante than Paulo or Daisy.
>>151657211>he was SUPPOSED to grab her by the neck and rape her into a bloody mess. You know, I don't get this. Telling someone you want them to rape you doesnt stop the sex from being violent. Lucy could have just told Mike, and he would have done what she wanted. How is this hard to understand for women?
>>151653479Wouldn't you only pick a side if you could effect the outcomes? These sort of interpersonal things are outside of the control of us, we are just observers. You can take a side in the same way you can pick a favorite color or song, but as a whole you have no control on the actions others take with those preferences. Personally I'm just for mutual destruction, I see two devils trying to kill each other, so I root for both to die somehow.
Why Mike can't just be a proper rapist bros?
>>151657144Notice how they never have an argument against your shit
>>151657235 Oops, wrong page. Stand by what I said. It will still hurt.
>>151657262Oh, really? I see one author trying to kill her demons by overfeeding and jerking them off.
>>151657271Sure, if you ignore all the counterarguments that have been presented or are too stupid to recognize them.
>>151657199The anon I was replying to said "First explain WHY he should trust these people at all", so I did. You want to argue that the cons outweigh the pros then by all means, feel free. I'm just sick of people going "Mike's friends never do nuthin' for him!" as if the majority of the comic isn't Mike's friends doing stuff for him.And Daisy being shit at keeping secrets is an ancient character trait, it was established when the comic was still drawn with a ballpoint pen. Why are we acting like this is some unprecedented betrayal? At least THIS time she's letting slip Mike's secret to Mike's "best friend", rather than to a bully or to the friendly neighborhood stalker.
>>151657281See you get it, we are just observers. We can't control outcomes.
>>151657136Lucy knows she can not defeat Sandy directly, so her being with Mike near permanently removes him from the board until Sandy is done with him. Lucy only said "let's not rush into a relationship" because she took it for granted they would end up together, and she didn't want to make herself seem easy. It's part of why she's pissed: yet again Sandy snatched victory by acting while Lucy sat on her laurels.
>>151657365Sandy sweep, flawless victory, inferior cats BTFO'd yet again.
>>151657339>Mike's friends never do nuthin' for him!" as if the majority of the comic isn't Mike's friends doing stuff for him.It very much matters if the pros outweigh the cons.>>151657339>And Daisy being shit at keeping secrets is an ancient character traitThat doesnt mean shit if it's an ancient character trait. It still means she is a fucking bad friend. How is this hard to get? If you leak something that personal after someone trusts you, then you are a bad friend.>>151657365So she is just a self-sabotaging liar? She hasn't changed since grade school.
>>151657393Bitches just can't compete with a supermodel.
>>151654314Paulo should have known what he was getting into. He has himself to blame for what comes next.>>151655290Why would David be concerned about Mike's relationship with Sandy? If he doesn't like Mike the straightforward reading of him serves the purpose better. Why would she add that caveat, what does it serve?
>>151657339Given that the context with you is always "Mike does himself no favors," explain how your answer means anything. Because it's not a case of why Mike should or shouldn't trust his friends in-character but whether or not that makes sense from the reader's perspective. We see things that Mike does not. He is unaware that Paulo tried throwing him under the bus and wanted to take out his frustrations on him for a totally unrelated matter (the anime dub shit). He doesn'tknow that Daisy just sold him out and invented some damning story. Him trusting or confiding in them more would not fix these character flaws. They are inherent.
>>151657413>>151657436Pretty much. Lucy has home court advantage with Sandy having to sink all her baskets from half court, and she's still fucking losing.
>>151657474>If he doesn't like Mike, the straightforward reading of him serves the purpose better. Why would she add that caveat? What does it serve?Pretty sure Mike has been nice to David( in the past before these changes), and while not super best friends, there was no hatred on Mike's end. I think Taehsi is just retconning relationships for the fuck of it, to justify her current writing.
>>151657488I like how the burden of proof is on proving that Mike ISN'T a helpless martyr at the hands of traitorous friends. But sure, I'll bite: We see things that Mike does not, but we also see things that Daisy/Paulo/Abbey/Sue/Sandy do not. You can't blame them for not doing more to help Mike when he's depressed when he's actively pushing them away. My answer matters because characters are constantly giving Mike sympathy, often in situations where Mike is profoundly unsympathetic from their perspective, such as when he's screaming at them or moping about how he's an awful person. Given this, the ONLY reason Mike is alone is because he insists on it. People in these threads constantly assert that [character] will or has picked Lucy over Mike, but as I said >>151656868, there's several examples of characters picking Mike over Lucy, and the only reason Lucy is "in" while Mike is "out" is because Lucy and Augustus deliberately schemed to make it happen. EVEN THEN, it only worked because Mike actively cooperated with their attempts to fuck him over - nobody's stopping Mike from going "well since you asked Paulo, I'm sore because Lucy kicked me in the balls to shut me up", but he refuses to.
>>151657004>Taeshi lazily reused Lucy's own plot arc in a clumsy attempt to build pottery?Honestly I cannot tell if Taeshi did this on purpose or not.
>>151657474She's making shit up my man, she's quite literally bending the situation to make Mike look bad. "He doesn't really care about the situation" is all she had to say, but if you twist it a little bit you can use that to shit on Mike>Why didn't David smile at Mike? Because he was worried about taking that witch Sandy>Why did David insult Mike in the race? He was just trying to save him from cheating on Sandy with James obviously, he had to use thought love>Why did David take the leadership and exile Mike from the table? It's so he stops harassing Paulo and Lucy, he worries about his friends
>>151657535David doesn't have a personal vendetta with Mike but Paulo kinda does as a "rival", and David is his simp and Lucy's fan, so he'll act on that. It's like how he doesn't really give a shit about James BUT if Paisy doesn't work he can always have him available
>>151657365Even then, her dumbass could have just stayed friends with him instead of cutting him off and now actively trying to ruin his life.Mike and Sandy are shaky at best right now. If Lucy and Mike were friends, Mike most likely eventually would have drifted away from Sandy even quicker and into her arms. It wouldn't be a good choice from a reader's perspective, but in universe, Lucy could have gotten what she wanted if she had been patient and thought it through.
>>151657535Sure, but the entire post Taeshi is responding to is making the argument that David doesn't like Mike. Taeshi then confirms but specifies that David's reaction at seeing Mike and Sandy is slight concern for Mike, based on ???. If David does not like Mike, and we get a visual example of the relationship dynamic, why add that the called out example is different? Especially if there's no other indication that David will care.
>>151656717It'll keep happening no matter where Mike goes, because all characters are written by the same author, and that author likes to do things the way she does, which is to praise assholes and to shit on people she perceives as being 'nice' and therefore 'fake'.
>>151657755>Into her armsWouldn't work as she would proceed to push him away because she is retarded. She is pretty much everyone's enemy, including her own
>>151657755At least it's in character, Lucy is impatient, impulsive and very all-or-nothing/with me or against me
>>151657748>David doesn't have a personal vendetta with Mike but Paulo kinda does as a "rival", and David is his simp and Lucy's fan, so he'll act on that. It's like how he doesn't really give a shit about James BUT if Paisy doesn't work he can always have him availableThat kind of logic chain would cause way more harm than good if anyone else did it. David doing it because he's a "gag character" doesn't make it any better though. How can everything else in the story be played for seriousness except for him? Why does he get to be oblivious to what the outside event would do to Mike while the others wouldn't? Taeshi would be better off just flat out saying David doesnt like him because then that would make more sense.David would still be a shitty character, but him pulling would he did would line up.
>>151657755Mike made the "wrong" choice and she's punishing him for it, she'll probably wait til he's in hospital before deciding to forgive him for his perceived slights.
>>151655742It still doesn't make her any less responsible for it. She did it out of her own free will.
>>151657786That's fine with her. So long as Mike is seeking her she's happy to push him away, its when he starts wandering that she demands his return.
>>151657879Mike made the "Wrong" choice despite him once asking her and her being tsundere about it.
>>151657271I'm resigned to it at this point. No matter how much a character has been on Mike's side, they'll immediately write them off as a traitor if they aren't doing what Mike wants (note:not what he *says*) at all times. No matter how many examples are given, they will staunchly "nuh-uh!".
>>151657884Maybe. It's something Taeshi can always retcon to be either more or less Sandy's fault, especially if she can frame it as "Mike's lack of support drove Sandy into being vulnerable to a groomer."
>>151658059How is it so hard for you to grasp the reason people will write them off is cause they will, without hesitation or reason, change their minds. It has literally happened in this very comic. Literally last chapter had that occur.
>>151657235Paulo basically asked him to confide a couple pages ago and he was just like "nah, don't worry about me, I'm fine." Which is exactly what people saw coming weeks ago.inb4>but Paulo didn't pressMike didn't give him the chance. He cut off the conversation with a "let me go respond to Sandy" and walked off.
>>151658070But Mike always tried to keep in contact with her, if anything, it was she who did not want to talk to him, at least in the past... Though to be honest, spamming the person with messages can be annoying for most people.It's not the quantity of the messages/calls that is important, but the content. If their interactions were not really meaningful, I can see it becoming more of a chore than anything. We can see the same happening with Mike now; Sandy seems to be calling him constantly, but it is mostly to talk about herself, it's not really something really meaningful.I don't think neither of them are really enjoying it much. Both probably see it as more of an obligation than a genuine, love-driven interaction.
>>151658158>inb4ing something I'm not going to sayNo anon, I'm saying Mike would be a fool to tell Paulo anything and he made the right call.
>>151658158I think you missed his point. He said how there was already a precedent of Paulo being a shitty confidant since he tried to confide in Paulo in the past only for him to use it against him. Between that and already being super depressed why would he even bother as Paulo would most likely just turn against him for itIn fact it seems like that's happening right now by proxy with the Sandy reveal. Paulo's reaction wasn't "shit poor Mike." His focus went right to Lucy and how it affects her, not Mike's feelings.
>>151652293>cagey freaks like mikeSigh. I'm thankful this bitch is making a trash webcomic and isn't in charge of anything of any merit whatsoever... that would make this more than a fart in the wind.
>>151658172I think given what her current characterization is (which, while a retcon, has been what it is now for longer than it hasn't), I think Sandy's a bit like Lucy in that she just wants Mike to be available to her, and cares little about him as a person beyond that.>>151658201>>151658225Paulo is at his most irrational when Lucy is involved (Lucyspace will do that), but he's been supportive of Mike before (including two pages ago). An anon a few threads back described his character arc as something like "Sisyphean character development" and I agree - he's pushed the boulder up the hill before, but Lucy always seems to be there (directly or indirectly) to roll it back down. How trustworthy he is depends entirely on where he is on the hill at any given moment.Daisy is just impossible to trust at all, and one of the reasons Paisy has to be repeatedly shoved down people's throats is probably the fact that people still fully expect her to cheat on Paulo at some point (if she isn't already).
>>151653821Boy I can't wait for Veronica "emotional cheating is a sin deserving of a yearly period of mourning" Vera to write Daisy excusing cheating
>>151658238That comment is pretty obviously sarcastic, but I totally get it - she says dumb shit in full seriousness all the time.
>>151658306I don't see how that changes things from Mike's perspective even if that was the case>Here comes Paulo asking what's up>It's about Lucy and her goons which includes his coworker and his retarded friend>He has shown every time without fail to take Lucy's side every time and become an irrational asshat>On top of this he has already shown to be a bad confidant to me>Why should I bother? If I tell him he'll just blame me or blow up at me. I really don't need more misery right now.
>>151658306>"Sisyphean character development" and I agree - he's pushed the boulder up the hill before, but Lucy always seems to be there (directly or indirectly) to roll it back down. How trustworthy he is depends entirely on where he is on the hill at any given moment.ANon, that would mean Mike cannot trust Paulo. If he can be swayed so easily by Lucy (he isn't dating her, and one of their earlier interactions was her giving him a knuckle sandwich). Seriously, he coulda have called her bluff right there, and there would be no consequences. What is she gonna do? All Paulo has to do is confess to Mike what he said and apologize and her only tool is gone.
Everyone is just ignoring that Mike was just fucking brainwashed into "everything you've ever done out of the goodness of your heart is manipulative and you manipulate people", he doesn't need to not trust Paulo, he just needs to be depressed enough be thinks he doesn't deserve the help. The whole "why don't you go check on Lucy instead" wasn't a jab at him, it was seriously coming from a place of hurt
>>151657884>you don't understand, sandy wanted to be groomed!
Many fall in the face of chaos. But not this one, not today.
>>151658501Okay, I have to ask: did you deliberately pick a face that makes Mike look retarded? Is this a sarcastic bit?
>Everyone is to blame for not pushing through to Mike because they should know better than him>Mike can't be held accountable for denying help because he is le sad
>>151658495She is not a kid, she willingly accepted getting close to the guy, she knew what she was doing, she had no excuse.
>>151658433Literally ignoring how fucked up he is right now just to play 4D chess with his lifeless corpse. "He trusts them, he doesn't trust them", dude thinks he's the scum of the earth right now
>>151658537They have all had zero issues pushing him on shit before. Especially when he was adversarial. We can't even take that as them learning since they do go right back to fucking with him. How is this hard to get?
>>151658501Black Souls fits Mike better at this point
>>151658433Nah, I just think he can't trust them and shouldn't. Mike is just done cause he was called a black cat:>Accused of abusing Lucy>Accused of leading Lucy and James on> Kicked in his empty stomach.He already didn't have an appetite; now we are all just waiting for him to collapse somewhere, either very public or very private. He isn't gonna intentionally kill himself, but he isn't gonna let himself live either.
>>151657990The "right" choice in Lucy's mind was to allow her to keep leaning on him without ever committing to anything. Mike would just wait in holding pattern >>151656337 waiting for the possibility of her deciding to move to the next step.
>>151658381I don't understand why some anons think not telling Paulo is some 200IQ gigabrain strategy about judging Paulo's trustworthiness rather than simply... Mike internalizing feelings of worthlessness and truly believing he himself is not worth the effort. Mike thinks it's fine because he thinks he deserves this. I don't think he's lying when he says that, I think he's just wrong about it.>>151658400Anon, that's a meta thing. The characters in universe are not aware of Taeshi's writing habits - you're mixing Doylist analysis into Watsonian.
>>151656019She'd be better off having someone else do the thinking for her
>>151658517Another anon made that one for me, I think because he felt like it was a closer match to the actual MAA character's face when rolling Stalwart.
>>151658517>>151658787I think it's just the double chin look from the crop.
>>151658517>>151658787This was my initial one, where Mike isn't quite as derpy looking (other than due to my poor image making skills) but doesn't fit the spirit of DD as much.
>>151658720No, Paulo has been easily swayed by Lucy. >Willingness to drop Mike if Lucy told him to>Heart to heart with Mike, but later Paulo will let himself be controlled by Lucy for no reason. After she herself implied something had happened(She was not subtle that even Paulo noticed)> Finding out his best friend was cheated on caused Paulo to think and prioritize Lucy's feelings. This is after he saw that Mike is unwell. He is aware that Mike isn't eating.He is too easily swayed by Whitecat when he lacks a reason to. If Paulo does not feel equipped to handle or be there for Mike. At least tell his mother or sister.I bring up Hailey cause I don't know if she has noticed her brother has stopped eating. I
>>151658501The human mind - fragile like a robin's egg.
Actually, why haven't any of them told Hailey or Mike's mom about him not eating?
>>151657695Riiiight, so the problem here is that you are straight up not listening to me and going on some ranting tangent, as if that is going to successfully sidestep the point.
>>151658910Paulo's the one who's noticed it's an ongoing pattern, and he can't speak to moms or younger sisters without bursting into tears.
>>151658059They get written off as traitors because of how easily they flip flop on him. James 180'd on him the moment he couldn't date him. David suggested him being exiled in the first place.Sue shot down Paulo's concerns about Mike when he noticed something off about how james reacted to him because Lucy was back.Paulo himself decided to not see mike after all that because lucy brought up a "promise" she didn't even agree to.We've even got Daisy possibly going to bat for sandy on why she cheated on him the very next page.This was just the last few weeks of updates. Going back even further, Mikes friends have a bad habit of taking Lucy's side when it comes to picking between them. He knows this and the narrative keeps proving him right. Now mike is at a point where he's actually believing Augustus's bullshit "Manipulator" speech
>>151658847I'm confused at what exactly you're disagreeing with here. Paulo got yanked back into Lucyspace, and Daisy's apparently been there the whole time.There's nothing unusual about Paulo here as far as Lucyspace is concerned - NOBODY at that table has any coherent reason to like Lucy at all, they just do because the demiurge demands it. Mike also can't just drop them all and bail, again because the demiurge demands it.Again, can't mix Doylist analysis with Watsonian. The characters are at least spared the misery of reading BCB.The reason Mike isn't ditching these people is exactly the same reason that Paulo keeps getting reset right before he actually becomes somebody Mike can rely on: a shit, fickle writer who has difficulty comprehending human interaction, and whose moody pettiness has driven the story so far off course from her endgame that every step the story takes towards it looks downright insane.
>>151658981But anon, they didn't throw Mike into a dumpster when he thought they would. That makes everything else they do completely okay and also Mike's fault somehow!
Ok who else is betting when Mike winds up in hospital or whatever Lucy finds out first because of her obsession with him and blames the table for not knowing despite being the one to engineer his isolation?
>>151658059I had previously thought Mike couldn't possibly be Taeshi's self-insert, but after this thread I am fully convinced that "both Lucy and Mike are BPD self inserts"-anon from last thread was right. BCB attracts the BPD.Lucyspace is BPD wish fulfillment, and Mike's current torment nexus is how BPD people think everyone around them thinks and behaves.
>>151659041Lucy will blame everyone but herself, even augustus, until someone tosses it back in her face. it had to be somethign she cant sperg herself out of.
>>151659041Ooh, I don't know, anon. That sounds a little too coherent and character arc-ish. Unless of course everyone at the table were shamed into agreeing with Lucy.
>>151659058>Lucyspace is BPD wish fulfillment, and Mike's current torment nexus is how BPD people think everyone around them thinks and behaves.Lucy already fulfills both of those roles thanks to her insane paranoia.
>>151658847I LOVE LUCY!I LOVE LUCY!
>>151659121See, with Lucy it looks like paranoia because it doesn't counteract the wish fulfillment. But with Mike, Taeshi makes the BPD paranoia literally real.
>>151658880So grows the burden! So grows his strength!
>>151658981>Mikes friends have a bad habit of taking Lucy's side
>>151659156I've heard that reasoning and frankly it sucks for a very obvious reason. Look at how Taeshi absolutely refuses to let Lucy, her transparent self-insert, suffer for longer than five minutes at a time. Observe how she is quickly coddled by others or bouyed up by the narrative whenever it happens. Compare that with Taeshi's rather classless glee at inflicting yet another torment upon Mike. Taeshi does not like to actually punish herself and may well be allergic to it. Mike might be Taeshi-informed (like the rest of the cast to some extent or another), but he does not appear to be a self-insert.
>>151659096You could have Paulo blow up at Mike before the incident because of the scenario Daisy invented, which would feed into them thinking they were to blame, the others at the table are superfluous most of the time so they can just feel generic sads.
>>151659208>Sue... sweet thing. Tragically lost to Lucyspace early on, and currently the prime example of late stage Lucy Induced Ego Death, or LIED for short.>Keep your wits about you agent, what you see is what awaits you if you slip up.
>>151659144>A psycho warrior>Siding with a g*rlHERETIC
>>151659311PRAISE BE TO LUCYSPACE KING
>>151659252Mmhmm, mmhmm, I like where you're going with this, but could we make it dumber? More baffling to anyone smarter than a Lucystan?
>>151659344
>>151659367Lucy ain't a girl, anon. She's a bitch.
I can't believe it. Jesus is canon to bcb. Was he a cat or a dog though?
>>151652270Molly!!!
>>151659364Ok, lets have everyone feel so sad about not checking on Mike in his time of need they forget to visit him in the hospital. Also Sandy dumps him because he wasn't able to answer her calls while unconcious.
>>151659434Don't forget his parents making it about themselves by fighting in the hospital while Hailey glares at Mike. It can't or shouldn't get dumber than that.
>>151652270Funny bunny loli will be as good as Molly and Paulo lil sis?
>>151659477I legit think that one of the things that will push Mike over the edge is Hailey, in a burst of anger, blames their parents divorce on him. Or at least taunts him about how "The golden child should be able to fix it! he can do anything!"She'll probably regret it either right there or later on, but she'll say it regardless.
>>151659477>>151659579Don't forget Chris openly losing faith in his older brother due to a completely avoidable misunderstanding.
>>151659477Foolish, what you have started cannot be stopped. Augustus reveals it was his plan all along for Lucy to readily and eagerly torment mike, absolving her of blame! But the shock of betrayal causes her to lose her voice just as the doctors discover the only thing that can wake Mike from his coma is his childhood friend singing! The race is on to positively affirm Lucy out of her silence before Mike's family pull the plug!
>>151659434What if Lucy comes in and cries over his unconscious body, telling Mike he's an idiot for not understanding that she never wanted this?
>>151659684>The race is on to positively affirm Lucy out of her silence before Mike's family pull the plug!I actually laughed, fuck this comic to hell and back.
>>151659695She pulls a Shinji on the hospital bed.
>>151659684>>151659709Worse than we deserve, but far better than whatever Taeshi will write happening.
>>151659376Technically Katie is a bitch. Lucy is a pussy.
>>151659736Yes, YES but--get this--it's piss instead! Ohhh Taeshi is--er, I mean the network is going to love it.
Kill all furries
>>151659764Nah, not piss- let’s faithfully recreate that scene, and have Lucy grind on his comatose body until she has something to always remember him by. A child who will never have a father, their conception marked by the flatline of the machine.
>>151659632Chris hating Mike for whatever reason would be such a dick move, but he's also 2. 2-year-old Chris will probably hate Mike for not watching that Bluey Peppa Panda show for an extra ten minutes.
>>151659820Why not both, in sequence? Ah but wait, there is a vague chance that Mike could still derive some physical pleasure from Lucy's first successful rape attempt. That's no good at all....
>>151659798Is everyone in this thread even a furry? I feel like the only one
>>151658981>Mikes friends have a bad habit of taking Lucy's sideMike has worried about this forever, but I can only think of a handful of cases where it actually happened:>Lucy "explains" (implied to have exaggerated for sympathy) that Mike rejected her to the girls, they spend half a page mad at Mike before he says "I'm with Sandy" and they all switch to "Oh, congratulations Mike">Sue and Paulo being mad at him for Lucy "leaving", also very brief - they quickly notice he's upset too and start being sympathetic>Paulo bitching at him over Lucy being distant on her return>Witch Hunt>Paulo offering to throw him under the bus during Double Down>James as of last chapterThere are probably examples I'm forgetting, but over all I think the only one who consistently values Lucy over Mike is Mike himself. Everyone else, even Paulo and Sue, gravitates towards Mike more than they do Lucy, and they've all openly acknowledged that Lucy's pretty fucked up.
>>151660089>Everyone else, even Paulo and Sue, gravitates towards Mike more than they do Lucy, and they've all openly acknowledged that Lucy's pretty fucked up.Largely incorrect. Paulo stayed with Mike over Lucy (at times) because Lucy repeatedly told him to fuck off. Sue meanwhile openly declared that Lucy needed her space. Amaya hangs with Sue first and foremost. Daisy does not like Lucy but does like Mike, so she fits your assertion. David is not a real character. When it comes to making an actual choice about Mike vs Lucy, none of them have ever chosen Mike.
>>151659923I mean, he finally flatlines when Lucy is finished, and he’s comatose in the first place. It’d end up with Lucy only having a kid to remember Mike by, constantly living with the fact she caused his demise.
>>151660359Oh but that's not nearly masturbatory enough! Lucy needs to walk away feeling immensely satisfied whereas Mike's hypothetical orgasm must be rendered somehow painful beyond words.
>>151660089>they've all openly acknowledged that Lucy's pretty fucked upTaeshi will never allow this to be anything but lip service, which means they can never ACT like they know Lucy is both batshit insane and makes the world a worse place by continuing to live. One of the reasons that when bad things happen that benefit Lucy, Lucy is never directly to blame (or she NEVER FUCKING WANTED IT, etc.), is because if the story didn't work that way Lucy would be a villain. As the wish fulfillment self-insert, she can't be the antagonist.Case in point, and it doesn't even require Mike - Pucy. Pucy was blatantly Lucy manipulating Paulo, and Paulo knows that... but now that's entirely forgiven by boring Paisy fiat, and because everyone needs to be bizarrely obsessed with Taeshi's self-insert or she'll have a fit.>>151660182Paulo spending time with Mike was never predicated on Lucy sending him there. Whether you like the canon or not, they're friends outside of Mucy or Pucy, and have been for quite a while.
>>151652247>the real, actual canon reason Lucy ran out crying is because of a nightmare>aka because Lucy's the kind of girl who gets upset at people for things that happened in a dream>the characters are still completely baffled by it and now grasping at logical straws>they have zero chance of ever figuring it out because it's literally all in Lucy's head...I wonder how aware Veronica is that this is the story she's written for this Lucy plot thread.
>>151660459>Paulo spending time with Mike was never predicated on Lucy sending him therePaulo strangled Mike with his own scarf and went to go spend lunch with/bring Lucy back to the table. Later he offered to boot Mike for Lucy's sake. Paulo clearly tried to choose Lucy over Mike but was rebuffed both times. The fact that Paulo and Mike had a friendship outside of Lucy nonsense has proven largely irrelevant to that point until very recently.
>>151660548>Whether you like the canon or not, they're friends outside of Mucy or Pucy, and have been for quite a while.
>>151659923That's horrifying. I love it. Someone write/draw it.
>>151660531I thought it was because Lucy is a Sandymalding pisspot who can't deal with even implied competition.
>>151660560Yes, and as I pointed out, it has not proven to matter whenever Paulo got the chance to make a Mike vs Lucy choice. Repeating an irrelevant line does not grant it any extra merit.
>>151660575That'd still technically be all in Lucy's head, but I thought the crying and the weird "inside/outside" exile scheme was because of the nightmares. Was it not? Did we even get an explanation?Not like I'm gonna reread to find out. My masochism only goes as far as reading BCB once.
>>151660624Oh, I thought you were talking about Eternal Flame. Honestly, when it comes to Lucy, the triggers all sort of blend together.
>>151660089>they all switch to "Oh, congratulations Mike"I guess you could interpret Paulo getting horny over the Sandy photo this way? Sue switches directly to comforting Lucy and nobody else really says anything cause that part of the scene is one page long. Who is "they all"?>>151660531>the real, actual canon reason Lucy ran out crying is because of a nightmareWhich scene are you thinking of here? I think the running out in question was in Eternal Flame, which didn't have anything to do with her nightmares.Her staying outside is obviously spurred by her nightmares, but that's not what's being referenced in this page.
>>151660719Autist-kun thinks the lunch table is like the heads of a hydra so if one of them does something it counts as if all of them did it.
>>151660719As >>151660650 said, the triggers all sort of blend together. I guess I'd combined the two in my head.Although technically it does mean that Mike being exiled from the table (whether the table group hangs out inside or outside) is canonically Lucy getting mad at Mike for something that happened in a dream....Fucking hell, were these ENTIRE last few chapters literally just so Lucy could end up kicking Mike outside without directly asking for it?
>>151660182Mike ALSO repeatedly told Paulo to fuck off, so that's a wash. Sue, sure, she wants to be Lucy's best friend for some reason. But that's one out of 5 (it would be 2/6, but as you said, David is not a real character).>>151660459In fairness, only Mike and Paulo have tasted the full bitterness of Lucy's heart. Everyone else has only dealt with Lucy in small, diluted doses.
>>151653644based
>>151652247Nobody in this comic ever acts like they know they're alive.Anyways, anon who requested Mina and Cassidy getting chummy with abbey, here. Took a long ass time, but better late than never.
>>151661802NTA, but great stuff! Is the dog (I forget names) doing the sameish angle of the frieren head pose thing from a while ago a concious or subconcious act? Great stuff nonetheless
>>151661802Thank you kindly! I really like the way you managed to draw the weird 2d hairstyles that Taeshi does as something that looks more real, while still being perfectly recognizable.
>>151661802This rocks but I got to say, that cat has some meaty mitts. He has the fists of an experienced bully hunter.
>>151662029>Mina and Cassidy putting their hands up against Abbey's and going "wow, your hands are so big!"
>>151652338Kids are stupid, man
>>151661802Thanks so much for doing my request anon, I love how you drew them
>>151654750Isn't he supposed to be a professional hairdresser and her thirteen?
So I only read this when there's a thread up but it really seems like this is all Sandy's fault.
>>151661802Cute>>151662471I think they were aged 17 and 21 until people objected to a grown man fucking a 21 year old so Francis became nondescript "older" instead.
>>151661802Oh my gosh this is seriously cute! Abbey deserves more girlfriends. Please do Haley and Jasmine too!
>>151662503Sandy is playing a long game, and she plays for keeps. Once Roseville is ashes, Lucy will have her permission to die.
>>151662505Yeah, that's ridiculous as it's within New Jersey Romeo and Juliet gap. Plus in over half the states the A.O.C is 16, but to each their own that subjectivity.
>>151659144Kek
>>151662543of course you would be expert, stay away from minors
>>151662534>implying Lucyspace won't win against SandyAnon, I...
>>151662818The function of Lucyspace isn't to give Lucy what she wants otherwise she'd have a live-in boyfriend with an impractically large dick all to herself rather than just a step-handler who has dodged every attempt at seduction/rape she's made, but to ensure she never wanted it. Lucy is and always will be a "helpless victim of fate", rather than having agency for good or ill, or making decisions as to her actions, or experiencing consequences.Who made the decision that Mike wasn't single? Who got him to realize that Lucy was abusive? Who accepted Lucy's apology?Don't you see, anon? It was never Lucy who was in control.
>>151662891Okay but you know that despite all that, Mucy is and always has been the endgame, right? Do you mean to say that Mike inevitably breaking up with Sandy and getting stuck with Lucy for all eternity is also a part of Sandy's cunning, master plan?
>>151662987>Is Lucy getting Mike a part of Sandy's master plan?Of course!
>>151663042Sandy driving Mike towards suicide so she can have Lucy all to herself
>>151663663Saucy.
>>151660019Well, it IS a furry webcomic, despite what Taeshi and Nutcase may believe or say. Let's be honest, no one that reads this is likely to have an aversion for furry stuff, at least.
>>151663663
>>151652247>hey Mike's been acting pretty sad lately, I wonder why>let's piece together the info we know to seduce how Lucy is the victim!
>>151664237Lucyspace is strong indeed
>>151664237>Daisy uses [Seductive Reasoning]!>It's not very effective....
can taeshi just throw mike off a building already? dragging this out is just cruel
>>151652247I don't even get where Daisy got the "rebound" part for, did Mike really tell her he "got" with Lucy? Did he mention the kiss? The kiss Lucy initiated? I don't remember much aside from their own kiss but I don't think Mike gave context for "rebound"Because if he didn't Daisy just fucked him over when as much they just made up
I'm calling that Daisy and Paulo screw over Mike, and have a bisexual threesome with Lucy.
>>151664536Yeah, it's the constant draggin of Mike's torture that gets on my nerves. Like alright, you've already shown this a million times, you've shown that they all hate Mike, that he spergs out constantly, that he was a fool in taking Sandy back, that he was so very mean to poor old Lucy, that everything in his life is falling apart... just wrap it up and get to the point already.I understand that this comic is their income, but there's gotta be some other way to make the story interesting without the need of this constant sadism. Like, why not use some chapters to develop some of the side characters? We barely know anything about a bunch of them, since the comic is just LUCY LUCY LUCY all the damn time.Why not take some time to develop Paulo and Daisy's relationship in a plausible and likeable manner? As of now it just sucks, although I guess it'd be hard to change that, since both characters already suck individually, and they're even worse together.
>>151664747Because the narrative is abuse apologia.
>>151660999>so that's a washIncorrect. Paulo settling for Mike does not counter the fact that, every time he felt there was one to make, Lucy was his first choice. He, Sue, and Amaya by extension make for 3/5 who would traditionally choose Lucy over Mike. David would make 4/5 if not for his meme status, and of course now we have Daisy playing Lucy apologist because Lucyspace is governed by the inverse square law. On the upside, Paulo is currently struggling against the tradition. For now.
>>151665012The only leeway I'm giving Paulo right now is that he didn't immediately run to beat Mike up after accepting Daisy's convoluted narrative, which is something I could see him doing right away under normal circumstances.Also really disliking this shift of the narrative that says Mike DID owe Lucy a relationship after eternal flame
>>151665216Its pretty gross. They all ganged up on him for not accepting her confession in the past after all the bullshit too.
>>151665275silly anon, we all know that Lucy is entitled to everything!
>>151664188Landy and Maulo will never not be cute.
>>151652270>Paulo is finally putting the pieces together>Lucyspace is REAL LIKE FOR REALIZIES OH MY GOD SHES BRAINWASHING AND CONTROLLING PEOPLE SOMEHOW >I-I-I HAVE TO SSSTOP HER SOMEHHOW
>>151665417>Landy>not SaucyI'm disappointed.
>>151661802Wait is that you Nume? Thought that art style looked familiar. Also thanks for the Mikie and Paulie making out. I adore your art.
>>151665854Oh yeah, that or Sucy. Saisy and Lue are also cute. I hope to see more of Massidy and Stamaya. Hasmine is also rare.
Does he just ignore the posts that call him a pedo or what?
>>151653411I am a man and i was in this situation. I was 19 at the time, but it was my first serious relationship and i had a very similar family situation and mindset to mike. Obviously if it happened to me now things would be different, but when you're a kid and you feel like you have nothing else but your codependent (cheating) girlfriend who's way out of your league, thats how you think. People always criticize the dumb teenager argument, but this isn't just "mike is dumb so he does nonsensical stuff", he's dumb in a specific and realistic way that makes sense if you can empathize with it.>>151653414Yeah, the more time I spend in here and the discord the more i realize they're not all that different. I may agree with the takes here more often and see more insightful comments, but the capability for nuance is just as low if not lower than the discord a lot of times. I feel like defending mike there is USUALLY taken better than defending lucy here, people will usually hear you out there even if they disagree. Believe it or not bpd doesn't automatically erase your ability to understand nuance, and if you reduce the comic to black and white conflicts just because you assume taeshi can't write anything deeper than that, you're dumber than her and the bpd people the thread constantly shits on.For the record, over time me and "sandy" both stopped idealizing our relationship, put the romantic stuff behind us, and by this point we consider each other as childhood friends that share a lot of memories rather than exes or anything romantic. Its not black and white, people can change and get better. I love mike, but i certainly wouldn't be upset at lucy or sandy redemption.
>>151665012There haven't really been enough such ultimatums to establish a tradition for any individual character, just the group as an aggregate... which says more about the writer's goals than the characters. What goes unsaid when talking about characters "choosing Lucy" is that any character who has "betrayed" Mike this way multiple times has thus necessarily not had their choice persist into lasting enmity with Mike. If it's purely "Lucy or Mike," there can't be a flip-flop without also implicitly betraying Lucy.There isn't much evidence the inconsistency is intentional characterization; Taeshi just flip-flops characters as convenient for her mood and the current arc she's writing. Bit of an aside, but I think Paulo's the biggest problem there mostly because she doesn't know what to do with his character. She can't stop herself from writing 90% of a redemption arc for him, but ALSO can't stop herself from yanking him back to the old status quo for whatever plot has higher priority in her head at the time.Paulo, Sandy, and to a lesser extent (he was never implied to be all that great, even early on) James have also got working against them that practically the only remaining path towards Mucy besides a "they're basically different people now" timeskip requires preventing Mike from having anyone to turn to for support besides Lucy.Lucy needs to be the only port in the storm of Mike's torment nexus, whether she's there to kick him while he's down or support him in his hour of need like the altruistic saint she isn't. Everything must revolve around Lucy.If you try to analyze most character actions in BCB even slightly adjacent to Lucy as if the characters are making rational decisions based on writer-defined character traits, it'll just waste your time and/or drive you insane.Nobody's able to be rational in Lucyspace. Not even (you) or (me).
>>151662503Sandy's biggest crime, at least before the cheating, was being a nice girl and getting picked over the violent tsundere. Lucy is a crash out that hates taking accountability for her mistakes. So her not getting the guy snowballed into a hell of a mess
>>151653644It's a shame some faggot is going to post it on the subreddit like it is his own like everything else.
>>151667221>he's dumb in a specific and realistic wayNTA, but I'm not even sure I'd call it "dumb," per se. Just seems like inexperience and naivete, with maybe a little self-delusion. It's certainly realistic.>if you reduce the comic to black and white conflicts just because you assume taeshi can't write anything deeper than thatAssuming I understand what you're saying here, I don't think that's quite the reasoning here from anybody. Most of the whining seems to be people who have already planted a black or perhaps grey and/or white flag, in this thread literally getting upset that somebody else didn't plant a flag right after it was predicted they'd do exactly that. There's of course a selection bias from 4chan being what it is; the loudest and angriest are probably among the more extreme and the more likely to get banned elsewhere, and that means they probably concentrate here a bit more than elsewhere.Taeshi's writing is certainly not free of nuance. It's just hard to tell what's nuance, what's ambiguous for little payoff, what's last-minute dialogue tweaks to catch leakers, what's tonal mistakes in dialogue, etc. Some people clearly don't bother looking for it, but I think that has less to do with them believing Taeshi can't write nuance and more to do with them having already picked a "side." There's also quite a lot of taking stuff that happens to Mike extremely personally, at least here. I'm not in the discord, do Lucy stans do the same thing with her there?I'd agree that treating BCB conflicts like wholly black and white things is less nuanced than Taeshi is writing them, BPD or not, if that's what you're getting at.>people can change and get betterWas it Suitcase or Taeshi who said literally the opposite of this at one point? Not disagreeing with your point, I'm just pretty sure at least one of them has said they don't believe people can change. Shoulda let the sloppy steaks guy hold them as a baby.
>>151662503>>151667750The worst thing is, Sandy was legit just a nice girl in the past, but she suddenly was twisted and turned into this turbo evil cunt seemingly out of nowhere after a certain point in the story.I guess once again it's just Taeshi trademark writing, where she firmly believes anyone nice is just acting, they are secretly terrible people, while everyone who is a jerk has a heart of gold, and can do no harm.
>>151667971>one of them has said they don't believe people can changeAnd that's correct. Mentally ill people like Taeshi can't change
>>151668070This is your mindset when every fucking story for the past decade or more has a twist and nothing is genuine. Retards can't see things for what they are and there has to be something subverive in there.
>>151668070The problem isn't that she did some flip flop but that it COULD make sense if Taeshi bothered to flesh Sandy out. It's so easy to work with what's already there>Mom hates when Sandy isn't focusing on her career and she has gotten more into it. Call it finding her true calling or coping to have a lick of control of her life>Mike reminds her of the freedom she no longer has, she can harbor some resentment towards him without outright being malicious about it. Just have her avoid taking to him because "he wouldn't get it">Francis fulfills a need she has now, he's part of the industry and good at it, he pays her attention and is interested in the same things she (forcibly perhaps) does, and is with her in the few moments she can't be put to work (haircuts, salon, etc). He fills a need within her self imposed walls, she comes less as a villain and more like a someone grasping at what little control she has, Mike is still cheated but it feels less forced. It makes sense she feels it's unfair to Francis, Mike is not part of her unique world, in her eyes he has it easy and he has more freedom than herAnd then>Sandy is finally free to pursue Francis, being too early and still emotional she rushes to meet with him>Since it's a surprise he wasn't expecting her and is caught with another girl, bonus points if it's not even another model, just someone his age>Sandy runs away feeling cheated on and betrayed, she instantly insists that her mother fires him and moves her schedule because she can't work like this>So this is what Mike is feeling too? She's emotional and alone, she begs for Mike to come backThere, it even solves the very annoying change of heart overnight and keeps Sandy as a flawed but more complex character without outright vilifying her
I request the real description of Lucy's fiance from Fork in the Road 2. A badly drawn sketch can work, too
>>151668550>She's emotional and alone, she begs for Mike to come backIt would still be very idiotic for Mike to take her back. In this context, she only ran back to Mike after she saw that Francis was no longer an option. He was her rebound, not someone she truly loves.It would still make her villainous, but it'd at least develop the thing more, I guess.
>>151668677Well yeah, I want to blame Taeshi for writing such a bad phone conversation, she made it sound like it was Sandy that was worried that Mike was going to kill himself, didn't make her sound desperate at all. I'm just saying it's less Sandy sitting down, considering her options and planning how to get back with Mike and more a teenager under great stress after thinking she might have fucked up one of the last things of her own she had. But yeah, it's more trying to write a better comic from Taeshi's shaky foundation >>151668563Here you go
Cheating happened only cause Veronica needed SOMETHING to make Sandy look bad/irredeemable while also making Lucy look good by comparison. That's all there is to it, there's no plan or anything like that.You try to find meaning where there is only madness.
>>151668774Lemme guess, Paulo?
>>151652247Daisy cute
>>151668904Would take advantage of
Well that's interesting. As a Mikefag, so far this thread, I've been told that I not only believe Sandy to be evil but that I also suffer from BPD. Both are news to me, and certainly not imaginative symptoms of undiagnosed(?) schizophrenia.
>>151652247I dunno why i keep reading this shit it just makes me angry
>>151669052>Both are news to me, and certainly not imaginative symptoms of undiagnosed(?) schizophrenia.I mean, Mike did dissociate that one time. Weird to say any Mikefag thinks she is evil. She is just a cunt & Mike should never have taken her back. Sacrfices or not.
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>>151667971>I'm not in the discord, do Lucy stans do the same thing with her there?Kind of, but its a bit different from how people here do with mike. Most lucystans do have a bias and tend to take it a little far but have logic to back up their opinions and are usually good discuss with. There is a small subset, however, of people who do the whole "lucy is literally me!" thing and identify with her to the point where they have even more bias towards her than the comic itself right now. Those people are impossible to discuss the comic with because they project their personal trauma onto her super and will get really genuinely mad about the comic and people talking bad about their kin, she can do no wrong because she's a reflection of their victimhood. There's also just a few autistic lucy supporters that take it really seriously and will personally attack people over it despite not really having much personal connection. Overall a bit easier to have a fair discussion there but the bad apples are REALLY annoying in. I only started this comic last year, i get the impression that the discord and comments were a lot more hostile and unfair before but its pretty chill now.
>>151669052If you haven't sperged out at the most milquetoast post imaginable for not picking a side, you're probably in the clear.If you think everyone who says "Mikefag" is talking about you personally, you might not be.Such is the duality of man.
>>151668774Nah I get it man, sorry if it sounded like I was criticizing you, it wasn't my intention. I'm just pissed at the story we got in-comic.It really is hard as hell to try and make sense of her writing, try to think of ways to fix things, to see reason behind the madness. I've tried several times to be reasonable and think 'she probably intents to do this', 'there's no way this will happen', 'no sane person would write this, something is going to happen', but time and time again I was proven wrong.
Starting a schizo tier "Mikefags are as bad as Lucyfags", was the only way to keep the thread from archiving at like 160, huh?
>>151669222Nice tripsPersonally I just ignore these kinds of discussions, don't even bother to read them.
>>151669176>If you think everyone who says "Mikefag" is talking about you personally, you might not be.Well, I suppose that I could charitably assume that the anon or anons making such broad accusations meant to include such nuance. But seeing as their language used indicates no such thought, there is no reason to do so. They simply strike me as very silly and quite carelessly foolish.
>everyone who doesn't pick a side in a fight about different colored cat drawings is a schizoclearly it hit too close to home. we always get a ton of posts out of stuff that does.
>>151669222Well, they need something that will spark discussion. Most people dropped the comic long time ago. Deep down, everyone knows how it will all end.
>>151669222As an experience the moment a comment reads like fucking consolewars I ignore the resulting conversation
>>151665012Paulo's opinion of Lucy has consistently been "She's kind of a bitch! But I love her". Paulo's opinion of Mike has consistently been "He's such a nice guy, not that I love that dork or anything!". As of recently he's (allegedly) dropped the "but I love her" from his opinion of Lucy, and gotten over his bi panic and admitted he loves Mike. I expect him to reset to pining after Lucy and calling Mike a dumb nerd again, but even in that state he hangs out with Mike over Lucy. And again, you can't say "well he doesn't feel like he has a choice!" because both Mike and Lucy have told him to fuck off and hit him for refusing to, and Mike is the one that Paulo always returns to.Sue may WANT to be Lucy's best friend, but Lucy doesn't have any friends, because she's insane. Meanwhile Sue IS Mike's friend. Amaya skips out for a lot of Sue's interactions with Lucy: she didn't show up until half way through witch hunt, didn't participate in Lucy's surprise birthday at all (she was there, you can see her sitting behind Lucy), and spent All in the Mind skating off panel. But fine, we'll count them both as preferring Lucy, even though that's flimsy as hell.Daisy has always been firmly in Mike's corner. Daisy backed Mike when he was fighting with Paulo, Lucy, Sandy, and even herself. Now, Daisy isn't *trustworthy* - it's been well established that she plays favorites, is willing to ignore red flags if she finds someone attractive, and cannot keep a secret. But all that just benefits Mike, because he's the favorite she plays, she overlooks his issues because he's hot, and she tells him everything.Abbey is indifferent to Lucy and good friends with Mike, and David doesn't count because he's congealed malice, not a person. So that's 2/5 (arguably) who prefer Lucy, and 3/5 who prefer Mike.
>>151669263>accusationsA certain group of anons immediately (and angrily) provided a direct demonstration of the thing they were accused of doing. But I'm sure that was all artificial, right? Samefagging, as it were?Surely it's just one guy arguing with himself to make all mikefags look like the loud minority of mikefags who sperg out over some of the tamest shit on this entire fucking website. Surely.
>>151669348Just to add to your point, while both Mike and Lucy will tell Paulo to fuck off Mike will apologize to Paulo while he also apologizes for whatever drove him to that point where Lucy won't say shit unless Paulo is the one initiating, asking for a truceAnd while I mostly agree with your point about Daisy today's page really made a dent on her overlooking his issues by having her coming with a damning narrative on her own
>>151669348There's some recency bias going on with character analysis because of how disastrous LitS was. The start of the latest chapter also doesn't exactly do Daisy's character any favors.
>>151652247I want amaya to bear my children
>>151669348>Mike is the one that Paulo always returns toI would like to point out the key notion that Mike allows Paulo to hang out with him by rescinding any such rejections. Luxu makes her feelings known and digs in her heels. Whenever Paulo has attempted to dislodge her, he fails and is punished for it. Mike in comparison can be annoying but will ultimately not reject him.Your point regarding Sue does not make much sense and ignores that she is specifically giving Lucy space. The ending of last chapter also indicates she would rather have Lucy present than to bother finding out what happened to Mike.As for Daisy, not really, no. She and Mike barely ever seem to interact. The library encounter was a breath of fresh air in that regard. Still, I agree that she has traditionally been in Mike's corner in terms of preference. So it is rather unfortunate she cared less to inquire than Paulo did, and apparently has Sandy as her overriding true favorite, should the spoiler claim prove correct.Abbey is no longer part of the table, so your ratio remains off.>>151669429Oh? Were they all Mikefags? If so, how many? Most of them? All? What proportion are we looking at, here?
>>151669600>I have no argument so I will instead be a disingenuous retardGlad we cleared this up.
>>151669640Well, that was certainly a hostile response. Perhaps schizophrenia is not such a distant possibility after all.
>I know, I'll pull out "schizophrenia" again!>That's a big boy word!
Rhwy fight just like Mike and Lucy!!!They should kisss!!!!
>>151669551Get in line bro.
>>151653682>>151653689>>151654212>>151655350So many good ideas, what to pick...>>151667828Who cares. But on the other side, makes it tempting to draw those two going too far
>>151669722And here I thought only Taeshi was snorting the layers of dust off her own nostalgia.
>>151669174NTA, but the impression I get from the occasional Lucystan who shows up here (and more power to 'em, someone needs to break up the echochamber) is that the general attitude towards Lucy among her fans is less "she's done nothing wrong ever" and more "she's fucked in the head but I like her anyway". Which I can respect, even though I don't understand it - to me, Lucy's insane/malicious streak is such a big a part of her characterization that the only thing I like about her is that it's funny to watch her try to scheme, only to fuck up and eat shit because she's dumb.
>>151669815In my experience (and a review of patron comments will largely back this up) is that Lucystans will believe whatever they need to so that Lucy is absolved of responsibility. Unless she does something truly reprehensible, such as trying to rape Augustus, but the culpability is usually forgotten soon after.
>>151668792This. LDRs are incredibly hard to manage without constant physical contact. Sandy being busy with her schedule means she could have broken up with Mike because they just didnt have the time to communicate anymore.But the cheating is a way to do it and make Sandy look evil. Normally this would be it. But Taeshi still had Mike take her back anyway which leads to EF being a dumpster fire that nobody liked at all.
>>151669551Based. I'd want anyone to. Sandy, Rachel, Miranda, Lani, Tessa. Too bad we're not felines.
>>151669882Sandy's forced devolution into a materialistic airhead who accidentally belittles others and loses her cool over trifles was the canary in the coal mine. This girl will come out looking like the devil incarnate by comic's end.
>>151669174>i get the impression that the discord and comments were a lot more hostile and unfair before but its pretty chill now.Basically, yeah. You can check messages history yourself>>151669815Some are like this, but most cherrypick what they want in comics, comments and rewrites to make it work or it hits too close to home with trauma. Lucy doing a flip off the building is one of many reasons>>151669858Pff, her going to kiss Gus after EF was met by some as "Finally, Augucy time, hero gets the girl for getting rid of Him. Wait, why is he refusing?"
>>151669788>>151669807This is what i picture in my mind when 2 retards fight
>>151670018That's how you picture you and your mother fighting?
>>151670018Excellent. Also factual.
>>151669471I think it's notable that most of the Lucy-Paulo post-fight interactions have Lucy being the one initiating, usually with the subtext of "Hey Paulo, look how hot and flirty I am, please forget that last time we spoke we were fighting, because I now want something". Lucy really comes across as an abusive partner in all her ships. Meanwhile most Mike-Paulo post-fight interactions start with Paulo seeking out Mike and apologizing for whatever dumb bullshit they were fighting about.>>151669600>They didn't immediately go check on Mike when Lucy showed up, therefor they hate himI don't get it. You realize that from their perspective they're not "picking sides", right? They're just caught in between two friends who hate each other for reasons they both refuse to elaborate on. They've all learnt that whenever one shows up, they have to avoid mentioning the other lest things devolve into a screaming match.
>>151670018Ok and why are you telling (Me) this?
>>151670092Incorrect. I never said there was Mike hatred involved. What I did is simply point out that, whenever the opportunity rises, Lucy will be chosen over Mike. Paulo noticed that something was clearly off, was told to be quiet because Lucy was back, and so far has been the only one shown to be interested in basic inquiries. As he was convinced to agree, out loud: Lucy was more important.
>>151669815>>151669858>>151670005I dunno man, based on the Patreon and Discord comments, at least some of them are really fanatical, to the point where they can see no wrong in her actions; there's always a justification, it is always someone else's fault, every suffering that befalls Mike is deserved, etc.
Whats next for best girl Amaya :D?>>151670053Real>>151670106No real reasonI guess just because i can
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>>151670239Great artwork, anon! Let's get started on getting Amaya's belly bloated with life and her mind broken to a breeding sow!
>>151669949thing is i can buy the airheaded bit about her. But the more evil she becomes, there's no real point in this "Sandy's changed!" thing.other than to give mike more issues. like it's been stated before, we dont know if she actually got rid of francis or not. HE could be texting Mike in her place while he claps her cheeks for all we know.
>>151669858I draw a distinction between the common Lucystan (Lucifer Advocatus) and the patreons (Patronus Barbarus). The evolutionary pressure on the latter due to frequent random cullings seems to have inculcated a conformal obsequiousness to avoid ending up as a straggler, as well as a bottleneck in observed phenotypes. The former seems to have a higher overall population, and correspondingly higher diversity.
>>151670316How would one identify a non-patron Lucystan? For lack of clear examples, these seems like a largely theoretical constructs.
>>151653821I'm looking forward to this utter bullshit ragefiction to be real tomorrow. Didn't she just get done supporting Mike and shit over it? Where the fuck is this even coming from? Do you find this too out of character? As I type this I remember she IS a cheater in BCIs, but these are non-canon. Still, if they are still something to consider then this still doesn't make sense to me. Out of all the times you justify it, it's when your #1 crush gets cheated on? The one you idolized as the perfect man? What justification could she possibly pull out of her ass here?
>>151670355>Where the fuck is this even coming from?Sounds like a continuation of suddenly and conveniently bisexual Daisy. Now her official thing will be Sandy >>> all others.
>>151670185Yep, and few of them admitted it being related to personal traumas, experiences, etc. Wonder what will happen with those bad apples if whatever Taeshi planned as "now it's Lucy's time to get her just deserts" will be harsh enough>>151670239Only Mike might survive that, but he'll be crippled for life
>>151670345The official discord, the official tumblr, occasionally one appears here but that might be a mimic octopus.
>>151670620The trouble with observing any from the discord is, of course, border control. As for tumblr, I'm not sure they show much improvement. There is an interesting level of...let's call it "mental flexibility" going on there, though counterexamples would be appreciated.
>>151652702From what I can piece together, the main thing seems to be Mike seeing himself in Sandy and consequently feeling like he isn't in position to judge her. Sandy says she was worried that Mike "did something really bad," and he knows how that feels. Sandy talks about how Francis made her feel, and Mike is reminded of Lucy. In Another Flame, Mike is upset after rejecting Sandy because he doesn't want to hurt anybody. We saw how much he had to demonize Lucy to justify finally retaliating against her, so there's no way Mike feels like he has sufficient moral high ground to break up with Sandy if he's guilty of the same things (which he isn't, but he's had a cheating complex beaten into him repeatedly).Of course, he had to have known this would also hurt Lucy, but maybe you could conjure something about him thinking it was better not to use her as a rebound even if she was receptive. But then him completely overlooking Lucy and being glued to his phone still makes no fucking sense. In the end, whether Mike has always secretly loved Lucy more or just uses her as an emotional salve depends entirely on whether she needs to be a victim or not in any given scene.
>>151670775>he's had a cheating complex beaten into him repeatedlyOh right, that reminds me. Paulo's misunderstanding over Mike's "I cheated too!" comment should be an excellent chance for the now sometimes-reformed Somali to finally confront the damage his past antics have caused. In a better comic, anyway.
>>151669551Amaya's them/thussy is reserved for Sue and Sue alone
>>151670316*tips fedora*
>>151670775>>151670852That kind of works, but you're having to fill in a LOT of gaps. And it still doesn't fully explain what the fuck was up with EF - why was Lucy there? Why did she and Mike lie to each other? What the hell is happening on Sandy's end? Why did Haley see Mike's crash out but then never mention it?I think that trying to sus out what Taeshi is going for is ultimately a fools errand. There's deliberate red herrings, ""ambiguity"", Taeshi straight-up forgetting stuff, plots getting cut short, recycled, or resurrected, minor and major details being changed retroactively, and the fact that Taeshi has admitted to shifting "goals" for the story multiple times. Even if you DO successfully predict what Taeshi's "going for", odds are she'll change her mind before it actually happens anyways.
>>151671736yeah there are a couple people in the thread who seem to get it but deep analysis of almost anything here is impossible. it's too inconsistent. even word of god is inconsistent.just gotta take the comic as it comes, i guess. or maybe don't, that's probably the better idea.
>>151671736Her going back and editing old pages to make Mike look like more of an ass is the smoking gun for her changing her mind on whatever the hell the point is whenever she feels like it.
