Would you change for Charlie's approval for redemption even if you get nothing in return but undying loyalty?
>>151660819Yeah totally
>>151660819I WANNA FUCK THE DEMON PRINCESS AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>151660849Why is she having issues lying her ass off?
>>151660849I wonder if Viv's fetish are people's teeth or types of teeth designs
>>151660883She's a very prideful person. It's very likely the reason she ended up in hell in the first place, given that she seems to be an otherwise normal, if not a bit bitchy, woman.
SEXWITHSERA
>>151660819But Charlie I killed an entire family for no real reason
>>151660849What a bratty little doll. Needs correction...
>>151660819I'm not choosing redemption until I get a hellhound wife.
Speaker of God made me rock hard
>>151660986Lewdness aside it was nice to have an actually divine christ-like angel present in the series.
Sir Pentious is a chick magnet in Heaven
>>151660986She's cute but sounds like a grandma. I'm not trying to pipe grannies.
I dislike Heaven and Hell being in the same space
>>151661026You can't have sex in heaven.
>>151661094how did Adam made it up there and keep talking about it?
>>151660819I just want Mimzy porn and I've got nothing but one Daisypink picture
>>151660943Japan, man.
>>151661094Apparently false. Unfortunately, though, it has to be consensual.
>>151660951Imagine being Husk in this situation.
>>151661284I don’t want to.
>>151660951She's a lesbian dude. Not cool.
>>151661303Brat correction is inclusive and equal opportunity.
>>151661094Too bad for you, because Pentious is going to have sex with everybody!
>>151660819How does everyone feel about this ship?
>>151661094I bet they have the most wholesome loving sex ever.I'm talking hardcore, full on skin contact handholding and missionary position while starring deep into each others eyes with love, and of course no protection because there's no need to worry about stds or unwanted pregnancy in Heaven.
>>151661672Vivziepop apparently despises it and rewrote S2 around avoiding it.
>>151661684They have wholesome, consensual orgies with no NTR or cuckshit.
>>151661726this is some tumblr ass shitpost
>>151661726>>151661700>>151661688Gross. Alastor is asexual and Charlie is gay.
>>151661736
>>151660819
>>151661751
>>151661685Alastor literally cannot love people
>>151661772He was coming around to it in S1. Then Vivzie saw all the charlastor fanart and did an abrupt about face in S2
>>151661777
>>151661745charlie is bi actually
>Alastor doesn't trust anyone, doesn't believe in friends in Hell and assumes everyone is always just trying to use him for their own gain so he does the same>cute quirky female MC barges into his life and starts causing him to care with her overwhelmingly positive attitudeCharlastor would have been written like some cutesy ass Hallmark movie relationship, and honestly would have been better than lame boring Chaggie.Thankfully we have the superior cute girl to help him learn to love instead since Viv hates Charlie and Alastor together.
>>151660819Is the deal off if I bitchslap Charlie for being a dumb bitch or is it a part of the process?
>>151661745Charlie specifically said she was bi to Katie Killjoy, so there is still a chance for Charlie to find a third partner and make the polycule relationship angle work.
>>151661962The pilot isn't canon.
>>151661962Wont happen, Viv is highly bigoted against polyamory, its why she made sure to crush the whole Vee poly idea by making Velvette a pure dyke.
>>151661787Yeah, S2 was animated in a week before release, kek
>>151661969>The pilot isn't canon.true, but a lot of it is
>>151661980She really can't get laid can she? I noticed she pivoted from bisexual to asexual in between S1 and S2. Not to judge or anything since we all have our own struggles but still don't take your sex frustrations out on your franchise.
>>151661980>Wont happen, Viv is highly bigoted against polyamory, its why she made sure to crush the whole Vee poly idea by making Velvette a pure dyke.That is not what I saw in the entirety of season 2.
>>151661994S2 and the whole drawing with Val video made me realize the Vees are just two gay dads and their daughter.
>>151661969>The pilotAnon, I...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVKJc8Bg0jw
>>151661977Okay this I would love to see.
her hazband
>>151662016>the Vees are just two gay dads and their daughter.I did not see that angle at all until you presented it. I notice neither Vox nor Val attended the Overlord meeting back in season one aside from Velvette. Alastor was there, so you'd have to figure Vox wouldn't be there unless he knew he would be attending. Revealing to Vestial that he was literallt on the downlow for 7 years at that point. So she must had been the rep for the Vees being she in poly with the other two or adopted.
>>151662034oofrip anoncope and seethe
>>151662063It's even funnier since he makes her apologize and then scolds her afterwards in private like she's a little kid in S2.
>>151662016I saw a comment present them more as two boyfriends and their sister.
Lute in season 3 will begin to understand family concepts. Season 4 and 5 is when she wants to be serving as a proper woman instead of a resident evil weapon.
>>151662117I want to hear an angst, metal version of "Easy" performed by Lute and Abel as they have implicit angry sex. Also Lute is imagining that she's dancing angrily with Adam.
>>151662142>Abel: I can fix her>Lute: I hope he calls me a bitch again. Maybe smack me around a couple times too.now this is a ship I can get behind.
>>151661787No nikka hes a full blown psycho
Never trust AlasniggerNever take anything Alasnigger says at face value
>>151662142Anon, no. A man shall not take his father’s wife.
We'll DO IT LIVE! FUCK IT! WE'LL DO IT LIVE! https://vocaroo.com/1fwmCFiRahhM
>>151662221Lute is not Adam's wife, regardless of what she thinks. She would be happy to settle for the cock of his holier son.
>>151661685Vivzie's a radioapple I'm afraid. It might be her most liked ship.
>>151660819For a moment I thought this was Beetlejuice.
>>151662249I honestly did like them hanging out together underneath the canon as they roasted Vox. That was a cute scene. I could see Alastor working beside Lucifer as his enforcer at the end of the series. Both guys hate sinners after all.
>>151662234fucking kek that video makes me laugh every time, this is perfect for Vox
>>151662255>For a moment I thought this was Beetlejuice.I mean, I love Beetlejuice so that is a compliment.
>>151662245Adam is alive… and made realizations.
>>151662283Even if he is alive she was never his wife. He never even saw her that way since he was openly fornicating with other women. Abel is the best man for her. He has the potential to be a warrior and also a wise man who can temper her bloodlust. He also has his father's body type, which she definitely likes for some reason.
>>151660819am I crazy or does her sleep wear look like panties? The stiched on ribbon, the frilly bottom and the collar could resemble an elastic rim
>>151662299No. Abel will turn into rage-a-nator in season 3 because of Lute.
>>151662249radioapple wont work specifically because Alastor is going to take Lucifer's place as head of the family
>>151662268>Vox immediately gets annoyed and gets between themIt was pretty fun. And the dubs in other languages took the slight sexual innuendo joke and doubled it. Ship shit aside I'm interested to see what the plan is for them since Alastor has his sights on Lucifer now. Nothing good I'm sure but their future relationship is apparently one of Viv's favorites.
>>151662268>>151662368As long as it's not *actually* romantic, I like their Bugs Bunny/Daffy Duck dynamic and could see them working together as frenemies.
>everyone thought Vox was going to be a televangelist with emphasis on his cult >he was just a power hungry weatherman who ran a network, not a real cult>everyone thought Alastor was some moral vigilante serial killer like Dexter>nope he's an equal opportunity killer who sold his soul just to ensure he had power to keep killing for fun>everyone thought Lucifer was a tough and threatening king when he wants to be>haha no, he can't even hurt sinnersLove Viv bustin' all these headcanons, cant wait to see what she smashes next.
>>151661824>Vivziepop immediately confirms that Alastor won't care about Emily saving him in an interviewHas running her mouth so much on this show ever benefitted her? She could have just refused to answer that question and let the fans have fun.
>>151661824AlastorxEmily will never happen, but it would be hilarious if it became canon just to see how many people it would upset.
>>151662406She is obviously doing it intentionally given how much she insists on interacting with fans. It makes watching the show both infuriating and hilarious. I can't wait to see what she does with Lilith. Considering that most pledditors and tumblrites want her to be this amazing mother figure I hope she's just as boorish and self-absorbed as her ex-husband Adam.
Vagatha is for __________.
>>151662417I saw the interview, and what she actually said was that Alastor isn't interested in angels in general, but also that she can't say whether Emily saving him will affect him in any way, which makes me think that something will happen between them, not romantic, but something will happen.
>>151662432Funny joke but her name is now officially Vaggi. Don't deadname her.
>>151662420Yeah with how much Charlie hypes her up, I cant wait to see Lilith be shown to be evil and actually was trying to start war with Heaven.
>>151662441Vaggi is for __________?
>>151662447Mother ends up being a narcissistic cultist and Charlie's friends are trying to warn her how fucked up she is in the head.
How gay is it for a straight guy to watch this show? It seems very LGBT friendly but some of the songs are objectively fire.
VaggiE
>>151662465Meanwhile Luci is just happy to be getting laid again so he doesn't care (or rather he cares even less than usual.)
>>151662470questionable content and bike cuck levels of gay
>>151662406>>151662420>>151662447Vox’s entire backstory and lore was written before the release of season 1.The entire theme Vox has is actually the idolatry of entertainment. Which makes his constant focus on media a lot more logical than it would if he was a televangelist turned big.
>>151662470It's very gay but if you even want to watch it's too late for you already.
>>151662449Killing sinners or else she'll get her eye gouged out.
>>151662449Reuniting with her sisters.>>151662470I mainly watch it for Adam and Lute.Honestly, it’s just Chaggie and angel dust that bothered me.
>>151662485The reason most people latch onto the whole cult leader thing was his casting call description literally called him that when he was alive, so everyone was expecting a Jim Jones type guy instead of the sick twisted man who invented 24/7 news, constant ads in everything, and shark week.
>>151662485Nah the televangelist from the dawn of the TV age angle works better since it also explains his egomania as well as why he is so obsessed with going to heaven despite being a very successful sinner who really has everything he could ever want. Imagine devoting your life to what you believe is God (while also killing any pastor above you until you owned the church) only to get sent to hell after you die by accident. It really is more interesting. I can understand why they went the other direction though. The Hellaverse doesn't have a personal god so having a former cult leader who hates god as a main villain would be kind of weird.
this is one of those slow ass shows where you'll spend the month after it airs theory crafting future betrayals and sit on them till you binge watch the entire season in a weekend
>>151662501>instead of the sick twisted man who invented 24/7 news, constant ads in everything, and shark week.But that’s exactly why Vox’s character is so hilarious.
we never needed a new Cult Simulator game more than we did now
>>151662398No Alastor ship will be reciprocated canon. I'd be surprised if there wasn't a lot of ship tease between these two knowing Vivziepop but that's as far as it'd get. Her old sketches portrayed them as goofy friends so frenemies may be the end point.
>>151662516Hell's greatest daddies
>>151662507Kinda, kinda not.There’s Hazbin hotel and Helluva Boss. And those two series are officially crossing over in their third and fourth seasons.
>>151662495I only dislike angel dust because the writers keep abusing him for no reason and he barely resists. I know the fujos masturbating to this don't care but as a dude it just makes him seem pathetic and not interesting as a character. It sucks because I kind of liked it when they teased the husk x angel pairing.
>>151662523So Helluva Boss will have cross over events?
>>151662480I can't decide if Lilith will love bomb Lucifer or give him the cold shoulder when she returns. Either way she's going to fuck him over guaranteed.
>>151662529Both shows will.Satan is meant to be in HH season 4.
There is not nearly enough Alastor x Rosie sexy fanart imo
>>151662540It’s Eve. She’s going to screw him up so badly, you will beg for Lute to kill her.
>>151662540Damn, it's going to be a thing where Lucifer sacrifices himself while battling with evil Lilith and/or Eve and he gets redeemed shockingly early, isn't it
>>151662564Lucifer can't die. Also reminder to everyone to avoid engaging with the Eve schizo.
>>151662553Would Rosie call Alastor racial slurs?
>>151662572???? Dude, the Eve leak was from 2023. We already know she’s going to be a giga bitch excused by a sob story.It’s boring information that revealed too much stuff.
>>151662553I like their fun arts.
>>151662575Once a soul spends enough time in hell I expect they stop giving a shit about earthly prejudices, unless of course their very soul was damaged by them like Alastor’s.
>>151662608I meant in a kinky raceplay way.
>>151662608>I expect they stop giving a shit about earthly prejudices,Vox showcases this being very wrong.
>>151662616Gross dude. Alastor doesn’t fuck people sexually. That being said, you do bring up an interesting point. What if she made him perform…services as part of his agreement with her? She still probably wouldn’t since she’s a slutty swing dancing harlot who probably had her share of black men while alive.
>>151662621>racist straight white man dies in the 50s>70 years later he is fucking a Cuban-American to get over his one sided crush on a black man from the 30sHe changed for the better
So how offended will Adam get from racism?
You know who needs a good dicking?
>>151662221Why not? Better keep things in the family
>>151662698God hates it.
>>151662662There's probably not a single race of people Adam himself doesn't make racist jokes about. He has the every-letter word pass.
>>151662705How about we do it on the exorcists?
>Hellborn don't seem to think too highly on human souls and sinners based on what we hear in HB>They were also exempt from ExterminationsI wonder if they'll be sad the exterminations are over.Like I bet Extermination Day was like the Super Bowl to them, the day they get to see all those smug Sinner souls get slaughtered, their immortality and magic powers useless against the might of Heaven.Like imagine Adam zapping sinner scum, and he looks and sees a rooftop of Imps cheering him on, would probably feel conflicted.
Charlie is a premium snowbunny. That dsl is exclusively made for bbcs only.
>Hazbin and Helluva finally allowed to reference each other more and crossover>first ep of S3 has Blitzo pic related
>>151662849Would be funny if the crossover event occurs when Lucifer allows Hellborn to start slaughtering non-repentant sinners en masse
>>151662705>every-letter word pass.He's the progenitor of every race of humans, so yes. He literally does.
>that shot of Alastor with his shirt open, sulking in his room while drinking whiskey Alright which one of you faggots gooned to that shit
>>151662893Dont forget smokingWhich I found kind of surprising, like it totally makes sense for his character due to the time period he's from, but I just cant really remember when was the last time a show had a main character smoke.
>>151661811>>151661962ERROR! SUBJECT IS NEITHER ENTIRELY CATEGORY A NOR ENTIRELY CATEGORY B! ERROR! DOES NOT COMPUTE! ERROR!
>>151662921I wish Alastor would put out his cigarette by rubbing it against my skin.
>>151662820sorry anon, Charlie is only for shortstack latinas and green eldritch Alastors.
>>151662954Sigh I guess we know who’s the gooner. Look man I’m just here to see cute angels do cute shit
>>151662876Really an effective way to get on Charlie's good side
>>151662406>not a real cultyeah, which is why he was performing a literal baptism with his followers.i, too, regularly perform baptisms for little get-togethers my favourite TV show hosts organize
>>151662470it's pretty gay.imo it's fine if you skip the actually really gay parts, aka angel's crossdressing song and valentino being a slut in Trust us.i also declare Easy to not be gay because lesbians are hot as declared by adam
I honestly can’t take alastor seriously after he lost to Adam, got called a literal pet by the cannibal lady complete with chains on his neck, and was publicly humiliated and flirts with vox while being tied up. Literally the weakest character in all of hell
>>151663054Alastor didn’t flirt with Vox. Vox is basically a weirdo he befriended and then friendzoned. Vox was the one misinterpreting everything
>>151663030>angel's crossdressing songthat song was good though
>>151663030He invented shark week, the 24/7 news cycle as well as the whole “if it bleed it leads” mindset. The man was starting a movement, not a cult. The shit he was talking about was way ahead of its time.
>>151661962There is absolutely no chance. If a bisexual woman is in a relationship with a woman, and you even suggest her as much as thinking about a man, that's the absolute biggest sin you can commit and the "community" would have a Fukushima level meltdown.
>>151663054Want a tissue for those tears, sweetheart? If you go to school like that someone might call social services
Adam’s storyline is ridiculously emotional.
>>151663157>Adam’s storyline is ridiculously emotional.the fuck you even saying?
>>151663182You’ll probably understand one day.When the pieces come together.When the mystery is no longer obscuring the whole thread of life.
>>151660819Absolutely. There is no one who ever existed that doesn't deserve a second chance to be redeemed and that means you too anon
>>151663218What about tripfaggots
Redemption is a retarded idea only low-IQ retards like Charlie believe in.I could play along with it if it's funny to laugh at Charlie behind her back, but I'm out when it stops being entertaining.
Honestly, hell without the exterminations isn't worse than living in a bad city. Literally, the only thing you have to do to avoid completely ruining your existence is to not make deals with Overlords. Other than that, it seems like you can live more or less well if you know where not to stick your nose.
>>151663233Especially tripfaggots>>151663248Ow the edge
>>151663269That’s what everyone thinks. But hell is not a good place. It is the domain of Roo herself. The tormentor. And will eventually end one day, to be destroyed. Prophesied by Stolas himself.Few will get the good ending in the end, you know. Adam and Lute will. The rest… I don’t know. Eventually, all of the fun ends for a new ending to begin and remain.
>>151660819If I've met Charlie I'm literally damned, any possible movement can only be up
He could literally have a big old bucket of shit dumped all over him and I would still think he was the coolest character. Somehow, even tied to a chair and forced to watch toxic moth/tv-shark man sex, he was still on top and the coolest guy.
>>151663348I want to fuck his wound and cum on his heart
>>151662961How small is Vaggie?
>>151663360You are so very real for this, Anon…
>>151663202They really blew their thematic load by killing him in the first fucking season.These shows are the godly pantheons of wasted potential.I can't even tell if it's Vivziepop or studio shiz making them prematurely blowout.
>>151661672I used to just like it as the simplest, most obvious ship for the show, but after >>151661685 learning that Vivzie actively seethes at the idea of it? I love it
>>151662398>I like their Bugs Bunny/Daffy Duck dynamic>they literally had a "duck season, rabbit season" bit with their duck season/deer season mugsit really is a great dynamic
>>151663607>learning that Vivzie actively seethes at the idea of itYou would get it if you had been there during the pilot days.
The bubble is fucking stupid but when characters come together and refuse to give up on each other I always kinda sorta get wrecked.Guess I'm a basedboy and stuff.
>>151662249The most boring and forced relationship in the entire show. The beginning of their rivalry felt so unnatural. Genuinely the worst Alastor ship.
Consider this:>Charlie is a harem lead kinda MC and the show is like a VN where she has to redeem the sinner of the week
>>151663269Hell doesn't seem so bad because we see it from the point of view of overlords and other powerful people. It baffles me that this show doesn't have a fish out of water newfag sinner that needs things explained to him, it would clear things out for the audience too. Maybe we'll see something like that in Angel's flashback among the yaoi torture porn.
>>151663926>Didn’t redeem a single sinner this seasonAnd yet, she’s somehow finding all the bad ends on her first run>>151664028I think in Vivzie’s twisted mind that’s what Helluva is SUPPOSED to be.
>>151663269>>151664028Yup. If you're a nobody, you're basically at the mercy of whoever's more powerful than you and will tear you apart or turborape you just for shit and giggles with no repercussion, even if you mind your business don't stick your nose in Overlord shit.I expect nobodies to flock to Overlords instead of just steering clear of them and their deals exactly because if you don't have protection from above you're basically fucked as a simple guy in hell. Even if you (apparently) regenerate, it must suck to be everybody's bitch with no chance to do anything about it except selling your soul to some asshole for power.
>>151663795You are the target audience for Disney live action remakes.
>>151664181Not necessarily. My kriptonite is Under Pressure at the end of Happy Feet 2, of all fucking things.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrrjITelsXA
>>151661672It makes sense, currently Alastor is like Charlie's hero, he helps her (as far as she knows), believes in her (as far as she knows) and is the only one who has done anything productive for the hotel from Charlie's point of view, god, he even used his favor to help her (as far as she knows).
>>151663795This only feels out of place if you don't watch alot of musicals.
>>151662440>Emilie is bothered that Alastor remains evil even though she sacrificed her wing to save him.>Subconsciously, Emilie feels that Alastor owes her this, though she'll never say it out loud.>"For God's sake, a beautiful angel sacrificed herself to save his life, how can he not redeem himself?! I sacrificed my wing! I mean, I would have done the same for anyone, but he should at least try to be good!">Emilie begins to harass Alastor to redeem him.>This is the beginning of Emily's downfall.
>Become the most powerful sinner in hell>Loses patheticallyNever trust a woman to handle power levels
>>151662420It's so visibly telegraphed that she's some sort of awful. My favorite bet is that she's just utterly psychotic and uncaring; a true primordial person in the worst rendition of it possible, who kills readily and uses her evolved intellect for advanced cruelty. So, she's, sure, a sweet and nice and caring mom and wife, she's just also, for instance, intently led Sinners to try and rebel, as a way to get as many of them killed off as possible.That way Lu-Lu would be happier!
>>151662540My personal hope is that the lead-up is some sort of dead-beat mom made uwu nice thing, Charlie and Lilith making up for lost time, all that, while Lucifer's away, then when he returns it's all bait for a sweet family reunion.Only for Lucifer to stab Lilith, grab Charlie and just bail on the hotel while screaming 'distraction'. He wants none of that. Way too prideful. And maybe Lilith's just bad news.
>>151664337Charlie is open from the very start about how she knows Alastor is a shady fuck and not helpful or actually invested in the hotel, and Alastor is open about how he thinks redemption is retarded and just wants to laugh at people trying. This is even reaffirmed when they made the favor deal, where Charlie's view of Alastor is that he's just an asshole who delights in people's suffering. The absolute delusion of charlastorfags.
>>151663510Adam was based on Viv's ex boyfriend apparently. There was no higher artistic ambition, it was literally just "HAHA I PORTRAYED YOU AS A BASEDJAK AND KILLED YOU"
>>151664447>Tries to appear angry>Only gets cuter instead
You know, if Alastor died now, he'd go to Heaven.He technically stopped an invasion of Heaven and helped save the lives of all the demons in the Circle of Pride.>(Basically, like the rich old man from Helluva Boss, he redeemed himself by accident because his technology helped so many people.)
>>151664488There are no power levels you retard
>>151664631>MOST powerful sinner in hell.>No power levels
>>151664620Yes
>>151664623>You know, if Alastor died now, he'd go to Heaven. He technically stopped an invasion of Heaven and helped save the lives of all the demons in the Circle of Pride.I dunno, I think in HH redeption comes from purposefully acting against your sin, and probably not even a sin you have been judged for from the Heavens above, but the sin that you ascribe to yourself so you basically self-doom yourself to Hell.Alastor is still a self-important prick out for himself, sure he can twist it around so that in the meantime he can help those that amuse him, but I see no sign of accidental redemption in that.
>>151660943Straight shota should really be more popular. It's every boy's dream
>>151664488Rosie is 99 and Alastor is 100, strongest doesnt mean DBS levels of power gaps
>>151661026Sir Pentious cucking Cherri by drowning in angel pussy, Sera makes him cut their phonecall short so they can have more sex
>>151664685Missed the >Loses patheticallyYou don't need DB power levels for telling how stupid that is, it's like going to a box match and seeing Mike Tyson losing pathetically to Holyfield.
>>151661672It was my favorite in pilot days, but now i just really really hate Charlie and don’t like any of her ships out of principle. I do think it’s funny how much Viv seethes about it to the point of writing around and against it. Makes me hate Viv that much more that she couldn’t just keep their relationship platonic while still having them interact because she won’t get off her twitter and can’t schlick to their ship
>>151664623It's not action, it's intent. Pentious actually demonstrated this, his actions were all but completely worthless, but his intent was worthy of redemption.
>>151662142Kino..
>>151664597I swear I heard the same thing about Pentious and Alastor, how many evil ex boyfriends does this fucking woman have?
>>151664759With the old man from Helluva Boss it was the opposite.
>>151664725>omg I can't believe my made up ship isn't being made canon, h-haha viv must be so mad about it! She must have deliberately changed the story to prevent my fanfiction from being true because she hates that I ship it!Holy shit shipping faggots have such a massive persecution complex. Do you really not get how pathetic you all sound?
>>151664858Yeah but winnering and being redeemed from hell aren't the same thing.
>>151664725>now i just really really hate Charlie and don’t like any of her ships out of principle.Same, not to mention it almost feels wrong because she's clearly affected by some sort of cognitive impairment. I miss the pilot era gang so much bros.
Somehow this is even better with Vox as a human…
>>151665014I can't explain it, but I 100% agree.
>>151665014That's weirdly adorable.
>>151661672I don't ship them as in wanting them to be romantically involved but I want them to jab each other more. It seems like a fun dynamic and I do want them to fight each other for real.
>>151665154>>151665162Vincent is perfect dicksucking height in this state…
Pretty much every time I see RadioApple art or even think of the concept I think of this comic.
>>151665397Kek true. Genuinely it's part of the appeal. It's one of those ships that was a joke until it wasn't for most people. I feel like it was the same for Viv.
>>151663019Pretty sure that was just a very heavyhanded visual metaphor for his god complex
>>151665014Hes just like me fr fr
>>151660819>>https://i.4cdn.org/co/1765425317249281.pngAh, Lord! Even hell has a lusty dirty natural blonde girl, but I'm now don't have one of such servants of Snow Queen as a girlfriend. It's terrible as World War II.
>>151664500Assuming she really does love Lucifer, that just makes it all even worse if he’s the ONLY thing she loves. Like Lilith sees Charlie as an extension of herself and all of Hell as her personal catwalk but is just yandere about this one guy to the point of going “I’ll just kill off all the sinners bothering him in a way that can’t be traced back to either of us”
>>151660943
>>151660819Even if there is no chance of getting into Heaven, hanging out for free at the Hazbin Hotel sure seems like a better option that living anywhere else in Hell.
>>151661672It's been replaced
>>151662432Me
>>151661969They've also had merch
>>151662142>lute and AbelI think we'd sooner see her skin him alive
>>151662440Alastor sees relationships as transactional and probably hates the feeling that he "owes" her something. There are no friends in hell etc. It would be fun to see s3 parallel Voxs fall as he realizes he does need other people.
>>151662470It has cute girls, hot lesbians, and lots of death and gore.
>>151662526He resisted a lot when Vox visited him but Vox literally pried his eyes open. It's also likely that the "Love Potion"/drugs from Poison made him more susceptible>the writers keep abusing him for no reasonHe's barely gotten a sliver of what female characters tend to get
>>151667047It was at this moment Lute decided that Vaggie had to die.
>>151667089>He's barely gotten a sliver of what female characters tend to getWhich female characters?
>>151666915This. Also if they had implied sex it would be to a happier version of “Gravity” in which the storm is implied to be Lute’s orgasm.
>>151663091You're living for the rushFor that royal flush But you'll take what you can get ~
>>151663248t.Vox
What's your favorite hazbin hotel song?
>>151667089That’s not true at all. The female characters in HH barely fight, especially in the second season.
>>151663269Unless you were one of those suckers being obliterated in Vox and Alastors fight. Still hurts when you die
>>151667160Probably Brighter or Trust Us. Season 2 brutally mogged Season 1 in terms of songs.
>>151665397Radioapple is forced and stupid af but the duck season/deer season joke was fun
>>151667168>>151667106Obv not the female characters in Hazbin I'm talking about fiction in general.
>>151667160After listening to them nontop for a while I've come back to Hazbin Guarantee.Erika mogs everyone when it comes to singing, only exception is Jeremy.
>>151667160I AM THE FÜHRERUBERMENSCHI AM THE HOLOCAUST OF YOUR CONSEQUENCELITERALLY HITLERI'M THE CHUDI AM THE EDGELORD YOU MADE WHEN YOU SPILLED OUR BLOOD
>Lute under Adam is put into the position in understanding Adam wants redemption. And is overall feeling troubled.>Adam tells Emily that some people don’t want to be redeemed as a warning, recalling his own experiences with Eve>Emily doesn’t listen and her efforts eventually have her become a fallen angel Seems tragic.
Why is Vox so zesty?
>>151667160Stayed Gone for S1 and Once We Get Up There for S2.
>>151667452It’s too bad all the employees at VoxTek are canonically over 21 because the Vees were built to do pedo shit…
>>151667261>Husk... don't look
>>151667492>canonically over 21Source? I refuse to believe Hell of all places has an age of consent.
>>151667509That’s just some dumb shit Vivzie cooked up (while also saying that children don’t go to hell.)
>>151660819No, but I would for Emily and her cute purple _____cheeks
>>151667522This show is already pushing it with the cute dumb trophy wife violent rapist pimp, imagine the controversy if they even looked in the vague direction of pedophilia. There are people who unironically think Niffty is a pedobait character.
>>151667593Puh-lease. Everyone knows she's just a Pinkie Pie expy.
I’ve only seen the first season of Helluva Boss so forgive me if my lore knowledge isn’t the best, but hypothetically, could a Sinner rape a Hellborn and get away with it? Humans remain God’s Most Special Babies even in the place furthest from Him it seems…
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>>151667160Gravity remains at the top but there’s just something about Brighter that scratches my brain just right, if only it didn’t have that much talking in between it would be number one
>>151667522wait, if children can't go to hell, viv is advocating for kids to go out and do the most heinous shit imaginable before they turn 18.
>>151667160It's probably More Than Anything when all is said and done. But not by a large margin.
>>151667717Skill issue, I enjoy the sound of best boi's voice.
>>151667657
Charlie's hot in her demon form.
>>151667720That comes from the Bible itself, actually. The idea is that kids don't yet know good vs evil. The Bible is talking about kids much younger than 18, though. By the double digit ages, MAYBE 13 or 14 at the latest, you know exactly what you're doing.
>>151667966Bedhead Charlie and Short Battle Dress Charlie are such absolute SEXO compared to her normal look.
>>151667753Are you trying to summon the Alastorschizo?
>>151668087Exactly how many schizos are we up to now?
>>151664028hazbin is very elitist in its perspective, there's absolutely noone in its cast who's a nobody even when the plot is about a populist rabblerouser
>>151667312I'M LITERALLY SAM HYDEFIND A COPE YOU CAN CLING TOGO SAY YOUR GOODBYESTO YOUR """WIVES""" TO YOUR KINKDOM!Man it was an odd choice to have Sam Raimi write the lyrics for that episode
>>151667966Like her daddy.
Lord let me one day be as happy as Vox is during the "Don't you forget" Reprise.
>>151668394all the fire magic in the world won't make up for being 5'11"
>>151667966I like her teeth
>>151668539He’s 5’2” in the Amazon series.
Cain in this show is hilarious. He only shows up in about five scenes in total and Vivziepop talks about how big his set up is.
>>151668633I heard he was 5’8” though?
>>151662893That scene made me feel so embarrassed and flustered that I had to turn and look away from the screen.
>>151668394Why is he demonic if hes a seraph?
>>15166928010k years residing in the pit of sin and damnation probably corrupted his nature. You see it also with Vaggie, how she has fangs now and pinkish-red eyes just after a couple years in Hell.
>>151667160Stayed gone
>>151669398>You see it also with Vaggie, how she has fangs now and pinkish-red eyes just after a couple years in Hell.No. Her and Lute are infected long before they spent time in Hell (which is under a day a year, within seven years). And they were mega violent monsters before they even do exterminations. They even struggle to heal properly because their angelic nature isn’t functioning properly. Vaggi is the closest Exorcist we’ve seen to being pure and her wings are far less black, which is a horrible implication on what Black actually means.
>>151669280>>151669398Lucifer is constantly messing with the apple because he believes it gives him God-like powers. Which it does.
>>151669563>Hell actually cleanses angels of their illnessMentally ill writing.
>>151669739It wasn’t Hell.It was Charlie.For Lute, it’s Adam.
>>151669563Let’s be honest, there’s a better explanation for why the Exorcists are all in black and grey rather than saying it’s cause they’re demonic angels. Clearly Adam had just watched the Nolan Batman movies, so he wanted his girls to be the heroes Heaven needs but not what they deserve, to be dark knights.
>>151669750So now the antichrist cleans angels of their illness. Still bad writing.
>>151669809I don’t think Adam designed them. He names what was designed for him. Otherwise, I don’t think he would ever want these traits in these girls at all. He already is burned out by demonic humans like Cain before they became sinners.
>>151669881Charlie is a human with no interest of ruling, going by her corrupted human nature and trying to do the best she can with it.
>>151669893>if Adam designed the exorcists they would have bigger boobs
>>151669750>For Lute, it’s Adam.It'll be Emily.
>>151669998>they barely interact>and when they do they fightSure...
>>151670042That's the funny thing about the ship, Lute is quite possibly the only person Emily actually dislikes.
>>151670273Sera’s youngest daughter and Sera’s baby sister
>>151661685I say rhis as yuri shipper Vivziepop is brain dead and she cant write yuri romances for shit for some reason.All her female characters are useless get one upped by male character i feel like only reason this isnt a yaoi show because its eeven less accpeted then yuri
>>151670471>All her female characters are useless get one upped by male character Lute wants to be dominated by Adam and support him.Eve is destructive to all lifeLilith is Eve’s toy and so is LuteSera is powerful but her actions are ultimately destructive Adam is bounded to the plot by simping.
>>151660819No because she’s a dyke.
>>151670471>this isnt a yaoi showIt's not?
>>151667717Ditto on the talking. But I think it's also a good example of a song that works as the scene and can't really be separated from the animation
>>151667966Very
>>151667998Unfortunately plenty of cases of boys under 12 being heinous little shits
I still have no idea why Vivz says this is a show with female lead when everything important is done by men.>It is Lucifer who finds Charlie a way to go to heaven.>It is Alastor who gives Charlie the information to fight and takes her to Rosie.>It is Lucifer who defeats Adam.>It is Vox who causes the conflict between heaven and hell. >It is Alastor who makes Vox unstable and who defeats him in the fight.The only moderately important thing a woman has done is Emily being the first to try to contain the cannon's self-destruction.
>>151669563>absolute schizo nonsense disproved by his own screenshot
>>151670697Anon. Vaggie’s eyes turned from white to red when she was in the Exorcist squad, basically in heaven 24/7, with so little contact with Hell.You need a rock to the head.
>>151670471>the female characters are uselessHUH? Every male character in this show is either a goofy idiot or evil. Or both. I think Husk is the only exception
>>151670683>Viv says HH is the female focused show because of the two lesbian leads>everyone is far more interested in the men of the show>she also says HB is the male oriented show>Blitzo and Stolas relationship is the worst aspect of it, genuinely prefer Moxxie and Millie over those gay losersIt’s kind of funny.
>>151667605I don't know if that's more insulting to the horse or the cyclops.
>>151668087every character has a schizo faggot? Vox and Adam schizo are and will always be the worse these have
>>151662961That guy looks like he's trying to channel Lucifer. Like "I'm dating Lucifer's daughter so that basically makes me his equal."
>>151670683>entire hotel and belief in redemption is Charlie's idea>Charlie is the one trying to figure out how redemption happens>vaggie keeping the hotel in order >carmilla builds the damn cannon >nifty takes on Velvette>nifty kills AdamWhy are you pretending the female characters do nothing
>>151670743Her eyes are white in the first screen shot and the entirety of this second image is tinted red or do you also think her hair is pink here because of a "Roo infection" you absolute numbskull
>>151667643Depends on the demon. A lot of them have ways to make a sinner think twice but at the same time, the Ring of Pride is the kiddie pool of Hell. If you can overpower an Overlord you could fuck their squeeze and leave them seething, and the whole town would probably laugh with you. If you can't, then it's really just how far up the chain the news a hellborn is slumming has to go before getting away with a random act of cruelty is the least of your worries.
>>151664488power scaling in Hazbin Hotel directly contributes to how infamous or famous of a demon or sinner you are in hell
>>151670898I think it’s implied he’s childhood friends with Charlie too, like Lucifer and that guys dad are besties.
>>151670938Vaggie’s eyes are glowing pink in the scene. Glowing eyes ignore the lighting of the setting the majority of the time, cause it’s clearer and easier to see.Enough of your barking.
>>151671043You're so dumb I bet next you'll argue Lilith has no eyes here because she has eyes everywhere else
>>151671231Lilith?You think that is Lilith?That’s Eve.
so Lucifer is far more aware of the shady under belly of Hell and what kind of Overlord Alastor is. Lucifer is in a depressive state, but that does not make you completely useless. he is just not wanting to influence Charlie's decision making and hope she sees things the way he does eventually. Charlie isn't a weakling, Charlie isn't stupid, but Charlie is very trusting and forgiving so even someone backstabbing her is not only common but expected of sinners. even from sinners within her group circle
>>151668795>>151668633>5'2"SHORT KING>5'8"MANLET
>>151668633Oh my thats so puny, why Viv fucking why? Satan is ubermensh in all other franchises but your Satan is some blonde lil twink disgusting. Fuck yout blonde fetish Viv Abel should have been brunette or black haired.
>>151671631>but your Satan is some blonde lil twinkSatan and Lucifer are two completely different characters in Viv's story.
>>151671324We know he is kind of arrogant though. He probably figures no sinner can hurt him and no sinner could hurt his daughter either.
>>151671669They are two completely different characters to begin with.
>>151671669I know but in other franchises he calls himself Satan
>>151660819The current price is right and it's worth every penny
>>151671717other franchises has the bible knowledge of your average middle school edge lord
>>151671717Since Satan is a title that means Adversary it can apply to him. Like not all Satan’s are the Devil, but the Devil for sure is a Satan.
Adam lore to Adamschiso>Adam’s first batch was with Eve and created an entire race of unrepentant murder-happy monstrous scumbags.>Adam’s second batch of family are Exorcists and they’re purposely murder-happy monstrous scumbags.Keep smiling, Adam.
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>>151670683>”This is the show for boys”>Clown pageants>The twist is that Blitzo, not Stolas, started their relationship and they’re unironically childhood friends>Crying teenage girls>”This is the show for boys”>Sinner powerlevels are a serious plot point>S2 ends with a JJK fight>Giant robot sharkVivzieVivzie what are you doing
>>151672371I can already see a whole second meltdown happening in S3/4 when Emily and Alastor have nothing to do with each other. Just Charlie 2.0 waiting to happen.
>>151672392making the best damn theater kid cartoon of the decade
Alastor vs Cain. The match up built up in season 1.
>>151672455do you think Alastor threw Emily into the beam?
>>151672554
>Charlie and Vaggie sing about how together they can do anything.>In the end, they are the two most useless characters, with Charlie doing nothing and Vaggie only scratching the cannon like a caveman. This has to be on purpose, right? Viv can't be that incompetent.
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>>151672669Hey, Charlie did something. She accidentally freed Alastor from his contract and sang a song at the end.
>>151672723> Alastor from his contractTwo Contracts. So she’s double useful.
>>151672723>>151672739>The most useful thing Charlie did was to be used as a pawn by Alastor.I think that's even worse than doing nothing.
>>151672777But anon, imagine if Abel and Lute did more to save the day than she does in season 3.
>>151672669The weirdest thing is the sequence with Vaggie and Carmilla>Vaggie is helpless with the cannon and just bonks it with her spear a bit>Carmilla finally decides to help and tells her what to do>they bonk it a bit more>they don't manage to disable the cannon and Vox keeps shooting until it overloads anyway???
>>151672392I’m curious about the exact demographics but I genuinely imagine more guys are watching Hazbin, the girl show, than they are watching Helluva.
>>151672669Charlie did do something, though. She made friends with Emily, main character of the hit show, Hazbin Hotel!
>>151672824Yeah, I'm actually excited for more Hazbin, as flawed as it is. I will begrudgingly watch Helluva just because I've watched all of it so far and I'm already in it. The demon assassin show turned into a gay soap opera and the millennial woman therapy show has based men chewing scenery while they fuck people up.
>>151672909Don’t forget the Adam and Lute thing. That will totally not cater to men a lot that have severely troubled romances with women.
>>151663795Im gonna be honest that whole song except rosie and alastor's portion is the gayest thing in the entire verse, outdoing Brandon's Blitzo for the level of homosexuality on display
We should have had more of them.
>>151673030It’s crazy that when Lute and Abel show up, it suddenly became a lot more straight.
>>151673059Always remember, Adam is the first guy to have sex with a clown. She even has the clown nose.
>>151669998>>151670273It needs decent writing to work, but I can be on board for it
>>151673071Funny, I am more attracted to Sera than Lute but fuck Sera has lost a bit of what her attractive (kind of big bad above Adam in first season, now overwhelmed wine mom with admittedly nice songs if different context) and Lute is becoming a bit more attractive now (meaningfully strong and aggressive, but not as attracted at first due to not being exotic looking/having kind of a fat ass and kind of not secretly depraved nun type)
>>151668140Yeah no Denji, David Martinez, Walter White, Saul Goodman types to add depth of perspective without getting up their ass like Helluva tries to do but giving itself a self-performed colonoscopy.
>>151673144Is Lute is the equivalent of the respectable daughter the wine mom ignores?
It’s honestly really weird that Lute haters always draw her alot more pervertedly than her fans.
>>151672392I’m sure we will get weepy fujo shit in S3. It’s about “family” after all.
>>151673447It’s going to be Abel, Cain, Lute, Eve drama with Charlie and Vaggi being the little sister. And Carmilla being a depressed wreck, featuring, muh daughters.
>>151672694At the very least the show could have shown Vaggie making it worse and then stopping
>>151673723Vaggi and Lute only understand how to make things worse, not better.
>>151673255Kind of, but I was bit disappointed with reveal of Exorcists and Heaven as I was expecting the former to automatons (golems sent from Heaven as fleshless beings incapable of sin) and the latter just being mysterious to it's nature, left to ambiguity as most philosophical works attempting those large of questions. Lute reminds me too much of the Sisters of Battle from WH40k which is also setting that doesn't really get loins burning. She is easy on the eyes but just does not have the features most of Viv's women have (or should) like being kind of a freak in the sheets and having a fat ass. Also I guess being a respectable daughter the wine mom ignores like Amity Blight (for while could not put finger on who Lute resembled a mix of with Raven) and Odalia (Sera would do so much better if was just black Odalia Blight in all honesty)
>>151673802>as I was expecting the former to automatons (golems sent from Heaven as fleshless beings incapable of sin) Honestly, what we got instead are so much more freaky and tragic. They’re basically resident evil monsters.
>>151664488Alastor literally lost though? Only reason he survived is because val stopped vox from firing the canon directly at alastor face.
>>151667160Gravity and hell is forever.
OFFICIAL S2 SONG RANKING:GravityLove In A BottleBrighterDon't You Forget (Reprise)Piss (A Love Song)Don't You ForgetClean It UpVox DeiOnce We Get Up ThereWhen I Think About The FutureSpeedrun to RedemptionVox PopuliLosin' StreakLike YouLive to LiveSera's Confession---BELOW THIS THERE IS ONLY SHIT---Hear My HopeBad With UsEasyHazbin Guarantee (Trust Us)Alastor Season 1 Recap
>>151669563I like how they are all the same height, have the same lewd figure with long legs, big hips, nice tits, are all either pale or gray but all with white hair.Adam has a type.
>>151674143Brighter is a shit song
>>151674156Adam didn’t make them. He wanted this back.
>>151674307Why would he want a cheating whore back? Atleast Eve was just naive.
>>151674341That is Eve…
>>151674370
>>151665397>RadioAppleWhere the fuck are these names coming from
>>151673936What do you mean by the show's exorcists being resident evil monsters?
>>151674487Yeah… I know…It’s so weird…
>>151674512They’re demonic angels merged with the original sin, designed solely to abuse the loophole that Lucifer can’t hurt sinners.So… nasty things like this happen. Demon teeth. Red eyes. Their natural nasty murder happy personalities. And always remember, they can get worse like Alastor and Vox do. It’s just the big event hasn’t happened yet.
>>151674512He means he spent the money he should have been spending on meds buying an iphone to post schizoslop nonstop even on the go.
>>151661824>>cute quirky female barges into his life and starts causing him to care with her overwhelmingly positive attitudeThis, but the cute quirky female is actually Nifty.
>>151674206It's somehow the most overrated song in the whole show already. I was baffled to see it topping so many people's lists. I never would have thought.
>>151674830>This, but the cute quirky female is actually Nifty.true, but nifty is for baxter
Why do people even ship Abel and Emily?
>>151674830>not only lets her touch him, lets her climb all over him>earnestly confides in her>she runs across town and back at a moment's notice to help him>he may have genuinely been trying to save her from getting shotNiffty is the key to Alastor's redemption.
>>151674914They stood next to each other.
>>151674914Why not?
>>151662470I'll be honest, it really grew on me. The first episode almost filtered me and then when Adam showed up with Hell is Forever I was hooked.
>>151674953>Niffty is the key to Alastor's redemption.and Husk
>>151674990The same happened to me.
>>151662668Make them a girl and you've got a deal.
>>151674914Fat ugly, awkward self insert getting the cute girl, same with the people that ship him with lute me
>>151674830I'm absolutely shocked I haven't seen more Alastor x Niffty art/fics. They're perfect together
>>151674830>>151675369>"Oh, to understand your twisted little mind!" Who has he EVER expressed genuine fondness and amusement for like that? It's just too cute. I also headcanon the idea that Alastor didn't even have to make a deal with Niffty for her soul, just saw the ultimate handsome Bad Boy one day and offered it up herself, kek.
>>151675199I could see it if Cain took Abel’s girl after killing him and Emily becomes a fallen angel when Abel got attached to her. Just for maximum suffering.
>>151674892That’s fine. I see Alastor and Nifty as more of a father/daughter thing anyway. Their bond is stronger than romance.
>>151674914because they should be shipping Abel with Lute
>>151676031That doesn’t make sense. The point of Lute is so Adam can move away from a toxic one-dimensional relationship with Eve when she’s been evil and wicked for thousands and thousands of years, and didn’t even weep for him when he died.
>>151676047so Lute is Abel's grieving step-Mom?
>>151676055Yes.That’s her role. To bring out Abel’s rage to make him go, “you know what, it’s war time.”Since Cain is led by Eve to war against Heaven in season 3.
>>151676031Dom/Sub/Switch.
>>151667160You didn't know is when everything came together for me. So many individual hooks in it. Lute and Adam's duet, Emily's realization. Emily and Charlie reprising Hell is forever together might be my favorite moment of the whole thing.
>>151672371>ew...it's touching me.
>>151674143I actually like bad with us…
>>151662608How would you even tell a guy race when your all furry monster
>>151676612We could tell the moment they speak.
>>151675446>Alastor hears rumor of a new overlord popping up>gets excited about another voice to add to his broadcast and prove his power>tracks her down and tries to corner her in her lair>finds nothing but art pieces of dead vermin and bits of people>Niffty gets the drop on him, descending behind him in the shadows like a spider, and lunges>scurries around his body like a bug>Alastor freaks out but finally grabs her and pulls her away from him>transforms into his full voodoo wendigo form>"Oh my gosh! You're the radio demon!">"That's right, my dear... And now I'm here for your-">"YES!">she grabs his claw and magic swirls as she immediately signs herself over to him>Alastor like "...What."
>>151663510The tone of Heaven’s characters in S2 implies that Adam is gone for good. If they bring him back permanently it’ll be jarring and poor quality.Best move is to bring him back for a single ep set in the recent past. Have him brought back as a demon or even as a zombie, and make it clear it’s a few days/week after the S1 ending. Introduce a character who’s a heaven janny or some spirit we haven’t seen before, who gives him a chance to justify his existence. Maybe it’s a Scrooge-sequel walk throughout his memories and life. The entire ep is about him, with minimal reference to the hotel and other main characters. Make it an intense character study where he gets more screen time than he did through all of S1 and even his S2 flashbacks and hallucinations.At the end of the ep he should fail and be wiped out forever. He never gets the chance to see Lute, Eve etc again. From then on he only appears in flashbacks and hallucinations. Make it a good and touching send- off.
>First Moxxie>Now AngelGee Vivziepop, how come you get to have TWO former gangsters (and homosexuals) with daddy issues?
>happily welcomes even the daughter of the Devil to heaven and shows her the sights>immediately supports the idea of redemption, not out of a selfish desire to get mommy's attention like Charlie but because she's genuinely that good>argues for months how Pentious is good and redemption is possible>her heart was in the right place for the gift baskets, sinner scum cant appreciate good taffies>risks her own life to save Sinners from the cannon>was the one to start trying to contain the explosion, despite being in incredible pain from a missing limbEmily really is the Best Girl of the show and its not even close, like holy shit why isn't she the main character?
Abel and Lute are going to absolutely demolish Cain and Eve super badly in season 3. Horrifically.I never realized how deranged Abel is until I realized that his entire life was robbed away by Cain and he was forced to watch himself be replaced by Cain and Seth, with them taking everything that should’ve belonged to him.Abel is the way he is because Adam felt the worst for him. And with Adam gone, it was taking away the stabilizer Abel had. And Lute brings out the rage he hidden away for thousands of years…It’s no wonder he watched Lute’s Gravity from start to finish. Everything she says is everything he has felt for so long. And when he’s snapping out of his indecisions and Cain decides to show himself off as the scariest guy in Hell, he will destroy them. He will be worse than Adam.
>>151676904She's so cute.
What do we think of AlastorxRosie?
>>151676874That picture suits your pretentious onions-boy presence too well.I’m glad Vivziepop has better ideas than you do.
My dick inside Abel's chubby ass.
>>151676874By ‘zombie’ I mean that his body springs back to life a few days after death. Maybe the same reason we don’t see his corpse again is because someone took it away to reanimate? People say it was eaten by cannibals - maybe Rosie is the character who brings him back to life? Could be tied to all the Rosie theories. This is just spitballing and is entering fanfic territory though.
>>151676938Honestly the only woman I can picture Alastor having a relationship with.Like even learning she owned him, Al still seems like he likes and respects her, I can see them still being friends even with him free.I just love how she smiles at him, like she's so fucking proud of how sneaky this fuck is and how he outplayed everyone to earn his freedom, she respects his game.
>>151676963Angels regenerate from immense love.
On the topic of Lilith/Rosie, I 100% believe that she used Alastor as a means to get rid of the old guard of the Overlords.While it was probably mostly for him to gain some notoriety, I imagine it also was a boon since those fucks were probably extremely against her trying to empower Hell's populace. Zestial more than likely got spared because he's chill.
>>151677022I really want to see what the ancient Overlords were like, because so far, all the Overlords other than the main ones we've seen have been pretty pathetic, never doing anything important and quickly joining Vox, although at least Maestro has a good design.
>>151677022Zestial is Eve’s first son and supporter, Cain. Touching him at all will have severe consequences to Alastor and Lilith/Rosie.
>>151677056If Alastor wiped the slate clean with almost all the older overlords it would make sense that the new ones may feel unimpressive
>>151677056The first extermination must have been an absolute slaughterfest, with majority of the ancient overlords getting wiped out immediately.
>The angels somehow killed "thousands", but simultaneously wiped out 16% of Hell in one day alone, which would be billions of souls, just with pointy spears and no real strategy beyond Leeroy Jenkinsing everything they seeMake it make sense.
>You think you're Hell’s great savior >Will you still when I return the favor? >Take the one you need, make you watch ’em bleed >Will you break thinkin' how you couldn’t save her?>Wishing' you were there when they needed you>The only soul who's ever completed you>Maybe then, you'll get a little heated too>And understand why this is what I need to doOH NO… This actually implying that Abel has this backstory… That’s why he’s also in the deep shadows, watching Lute’s destruction. He was completely powerless to guide the one he loved to Heaven and watched her ended up in Hell, just like Adam did with Eve.He wants to return the favor to Cain. He wants to kill whoever he loves.Huh… That is shocking…I never realized how broken this guy actually was. It’s actually important for Abel to watch Lute’s performance because she’s saying everything he wanted to say thousands of years ago. And she’s the first one to put it all to words. This little guy is not going to remain fun.
>>151677247Yeah, I literally did the math once and it doesn't add up at all."thousands" an extermination would be fuck all, since they would recoup the losses within days if Hazbin humans die as often as they do irl.I assume it must have been some fuck up in the writing room because Vox saying Millions would have been far more impactful.
>get in the kitchen and make me a sandwich, bitch!
>>151676688kek, I could see this actually happening
>>151676938>>151676970Based, RadioRose is the best ship.
>>151677420whoops, out of order but you get the idea
>>151677365Por SILTPoor Silt (soil)That’s really weird.These signs are intentionally damaged to either refer to Adam as poor soil or Lute as poor soil.Since, you know, Adam was formed from the dust on the ground.
>>151660819How would I have to change? I can stop voting, but my right-wing beliefs are unwavering.
>>151677247women aren't good with numbers.
>Abel, someone who was supposed to be the main guide and line of mankind; lost it and his woman because his own brother killed him.>Emily, an angel who guides humans in the afterlife and seeks the best for them, despite actually being lonely (she doesn’t realize it) and unable to really understand them.
>>151672669Charlie defused the nuke.
>>151678484She didn't even start the song
All I have ever wanted was to love deer, but their behavior has only earned my hatred. I want to have sex with them, and make them feel good, but they would be disgusted at the prospect. They have no sexual attraction towards me. It is such an injustice, and I vehemently questioned why things had to be this way. Why do deer behave like vicious, stupid, cruel animals who take delight in my suffering and starvation? Why do they have a perverted sexual attraction for the most brutish of jewish female cannibals instead of tvs of intelligence? I concluded that deer are flawed. There is something mentally wrong with the way their brains are wired, as if they haven’t evolved from animal-like thinking. They are incapable of reason or thinking rationally. They are like animals, completely controlled by their primal, depraved emotions and impulses. That is why they are attracted to barbaric, wild, beast-like kike cannibals. They are beasts themselves. Beasts should not be able to have any rights in a civilized society. If their wickedness is not contained, the whole of demon kind will be held back from advancement to a more civilized state. Deer should not have the right to choose who to mate with. That choice should be made for them by civilized televisions of intelligence.
>>151678484It was Emily who first tried to stop the cannon from self-destructing.
>>151678535>>151678559But they are obviously setting Charlie up to have some kind of musical powers like her mother.
>>151678575Then Vivz should have made Charlie the first to try to stop the cannon from exploding, or at least have her do it at the same time as Emily. The fact that Emily stood out much more than Charlie throughout the final episode is one of the reasons why some people now joke about Emily being the real protagonist.
>>151663030>i also declare Easy to not be gay because lesbians are hot as declared by adamThis. It's why season 2 isn't as good, the bad guy is gay vox
>>151678575the unholy power of FRISSONno wonder Alastor is drawn to her antics
>>151678606Hazbin is the only show brave enough to still give us a campy gay villain in current year.
>>151678618Most of the principal characters in the universe are some flavor of campy gay to be honest. I mean, this is a show made by a bisexual theater kid.
>>151678771>kidShe is an adult woman anon and a business leader noless
>>151679011The theater kid name is forever regardless of age.
I want to live in the timeline where Hazbin is well written AND still includes this gay shit >>151678618
>>151679011>Scarlet dress with stars all over it
>>151679087Explain yourself
>>151660819So I just binge watched this shit. I do like a lot of things, like the subversion of some tropes especially around lucifer.But despite finding Adam as a character pretty funny, his entire existence in heaven makes no fucking sense. I get the "purging hell in fear of uprising plotline", but then the angels should've been depicted with angelic rage not hell-tier retardation.
>>151679313He's essentially just a very bored man from the most primitive stage of mankind who took advantage of whatever Lilith did with the whole Sinner uprising thing.I'm going to guess that it was either retconned, or there'll be elaboration on that he, for no apparent reason, says>Fair's fair, an eye for an eye!In his song while talking about exterminations. You'd figure that it'd suggest that sinners did something, but it'd probably be brought up at some point during all the ten thousand 'Hell's dangerous' conversations.>>151676929Abel most likely just doesn't give much of a shit about what was meant for him in the grand plan. He's been dead for like ten thousand years; he's been alive for maybe twenty, before that. His life was a moment, his afterlife was his cactual existence.
>>151668539Since he can shapeshift, his height's probably a choice. It's closer to regular human height than retarded 7'6 or whatever Alastor is, for instance, which could be a subtle little 'he still loves mankind' thing. Or Lilith's just into manlets and he's eager to meet her wants.This does automatically also mean that if Vivzie ever brings on whatever intern wrote that one Stolas summoning scene, Lucifer could utterly dismantle any given sinner psychologically by shapeshifting into their loved ones and mocking them.
>>151677247Having some other group have 'millions' killed would be antisemitic
>>151667160Overall I'm leaning towards Vox Populi. It has everything my other faves like Hell's Best Dad and literally any Vox song has, only really lacks the Prince of Egypt vibes from Sera's Confession, and seemingly made the fanbase demand Lucifer gets a reprise of his part in it, which, hopefully, VIVZIE BLEASE, means he'll get an actual cool moment or two in season 3. We can pray.Husk's casino song is really good though, you can remove it from Hazbin context and it works great. And it's funny that he's singing it while getting utterly blown the fuck out in his own casino which he still outright owns.
>>151666730Why couldn't she be Megaera-like and project a pegging aura into every scene...
>>151666276And that's what'd make that read on her very fun. She's not even outright malicious or evil; she's not Alastor who revels in sadism for the sake of it, or Vox who's a constant power tripper. She'll smile at you very kindly and genuinely, while stabbing you in the gut and saying that you're a waste of space interfering with what she's planning for her daughter's big two-hundred-year birthday party, or something; she's not evil only because she's of a mindset that outright has no space for morality.There's only her, her lovely husband, a small extension of herself that has some silly ideas, Heaven which banished them, and surrounding filth that sometimes has opinions. It's a nonchalant, non-psychotic and non-presentation-obsessed sort of an antagonist, which'd differentiate her from how Alastor, Vox, Adam, etc are.
>>151679511My hope for S3 is that they stop trying to turn every song into One Day More, it loses its effectiveness after the third time.
>>151667160S1>Loser Babby (also overall favorite)S2>Sera's confession
>>151667160Objectively speaking it's these three, in no particular order:>hell is forever>respectless>stayed goneWhy? Because they check all boxes a musical number has to fulfill in an animated show:>clever and musically creative>good lyrics and rhyming>progress the plot in some way >funny (optional depending on the mood)It's not a coincidence they're early in the show, the writers got progressively lazy and with that songs turned into generic "here's my feelings in style x" slop
>>151679565>15ft tall chocolate hag made of stress who probably never in her life had any sort of romantic or sexual experiences whatsoever and will be a giant pushover sub>vs>spunky one-eyed Aussie cyclops who can probably go either way in bed, but would be utterly mindbroken by tender lovemakingPentious won. He can only win harder by getting an episode or two where he actually assembles a heavenly crew of some sort out of people who also want to go to Hell, maybe mostly to meet their relatives or some shit, and thus expanding the harem of women inexplicably into him.
>>151679626>inexplicably
>>151677247The numbers are pretty fucked yeah, but I think it's also important to remember that Adam probably accounted for a lot of those big numbers by himself. He casually deleted Sir Pentious's airship, and his desperation attack against Lucifer basically split the hotel and the cliff it was on in two AND created a massive ravine in the ground underneath: https://youtu.be/U3Q9MEsqnkY?si=4xuwZbMZTpBWbuuv&t=273All he really has to do is throw around a few of those, aiming at the largest buildings/population centers, and with the city being as densely populated as it is he could easily kill hundreds of thousands in a matter of seconds, if not more since the city must be incredibly densely populated.
>>151679694It'd be very retarded, but somewhat justifiable if how the Exterminations managed to rack up their necessary numbers were 'surgical' strikes in Pentagram city, since they can't drop nukes there (way too many hellborn and specifically Lucifer and Charlie there, a missed nuke means some imp might get hit and break the deal with Lucifer), while Adam blasted other, random cities with no hellborn to fucking dust, at random. It'd explain why people even live in Pentagram city - sure, it's basically Los Angeles during fire season, but it's also the only place where you won't annually risk getting incenirated by a heavenly Kamehameha.
>>151679694he says that Vaggie alone killed 'thousands', and she wasn't there the whole duration of the Exterminations. Lute kills 275 in a good year.Even 'tens of thousands' is underselling it. It's hundreds of thousands at minimum. There's no reason for Vox of all people to undercount it by 2 orders of magnitude when he's trying to rouse anger against Heaven. So either a writing fuck up or he flubbed saying 'thousands'.
>>151679593i hate any song with that retarded cunt sera in it
>>151679801>Literally declared himself the Fuhrer on live TV>Tried to win over Zestial with elder care, and Carmilla with maracas>Apparently forgot Val's Floridan powers make him immune to sissy hypno>Expresses his plans with crayon drawings, just like Charlie>At no point does his heaven invasion plan include a way to actually get inside there except presumably by trying to intimidate angels into making a mortal for himHas it occurred to you that maybe Vox just isn't very smart?
>>151679721DESU the Exterminations don't really make sense when you account for the lesser Hellborn just casually living alongside Sinners. Even if there are distinctive species of Hellborn I find it hard to believe that there's never been a fog of war scenario where an Exterminator mistook a Hellborn for a Sinner. Or a scenario where a Sinner hires a bunch of Hellborn to basically be their literal bodyguards.Or hell, there's nothing stopping a Sinner from doing pic related with a bunch of baby Imps or Hellhound puppies, is there?
>>151679826KEKAROOm god what a missed opportunity. I hope Helluva Boss turns out to take place a few years before Hazbin just so this tactic gets used.>Random sinner hires I.M.P. to be strapped to his chest during an extermination, making him functionally invincible>Blitzo is fucking pissed he's not even getting any sex out of it
>>151662470If you only listen to the songs, it’s not that gay
>>151670906>Charlie is the one trying to figure out how redemption happensIt’s funny how it takes her till S2 to actually think about how a persons sin ties to redemption. Shes one of the worst/most retarded MC’s I’ve seen in a while
>>151679768I know a lot of girls that like smiling friends
>>151679813The Speaker of God/Liz Callaway's voice makes up for Sera's character amounting to absolutely nothing
>>151680013>Sera's character amounting to absolutely nothingShe learned from her mistakes and didn't blindly attack hell, retard
>>151679995Every Smiling Friends fan I know is a fujo.
>>151677247The numbers might be even lower since Vox is known for exaggerating.
>>151660943mommy material
>>151679721Why didn't the exterminators target actually dangerous overlords like Alastor, Zestial and Carmilla? And don't tell me they couldn't find them, they have a big ass all seeing crystal ball in their council room. Did they just find it more fun to target midget cannibals that dress like children for some unspeakable reason?
>>151662152Close enoughWe Drakengard 3 now
Prove me wrong
>>151680169Rosie should be higher
>>151667160They are all pretty terrible
>>151680128Have you seen the end of S1? The only one who could go against the overlords was Adam, and I doubt he knew what the hell they are anyway
>>151680289>Adam knows Angel Dust>doesn't know the main overlords like the VeesI see he has his priorities straight
>>151680354>straightKinda
>>151679444> about what was meant for him in the grand plan. Yes he did. He’s not happy. He let heaven consume him as Adam did to escape the pain, and you know it doesn’t work in the end. And him watching Lute and looking at his own hands implies that everything she was saying was significant to HIM. >Will you still when I return the favor? >Take the one you need>Make you watch 'em bleed (Vindictus)>Will you BREAK thinking how you couldn't save her?!>Wishin' you were there when they needed you>The only soul who's ever completed you>Maybe then you'll get a little heated too>And understand why this is what I need to do!> Eye for an eye says> You owe me a debt!> Blood demands blood, gonna get my hands wet!Cain took more than his life that day.
>>151677247>A bunch of angels with no real strategy or plan flying around killing people at random>No special weapons of war, solely spears and swords>Killing around 300 is supposed to be impressive for one of them>Somehow this wipes out 16% of Hell's population a yearFace it people, the Extermination is a HOAX.
>>151680128>Why didn't the exterminators target actually dangerous overlords like Alastor, Zestial and Carmilla?Because they don't give a shit about actually making Hell safe, they just wanted an excuse to kill sinners
>>151680289Are you telling me they couldn't even kill any of the really minor ones like the cactus dude?
>>151681147The average exterminator looks really unimpressive, honestly. But even if they could, to target someone you must know what to look for at least. They don't know shit about the hierarchy down there
>>151681147>outnumber Carmilla in a 5 to 1 fight>loseThe exorcists are jobbers. They can only handle small fry.
>>151681125This makes Sera's character even worse, what an incompetent retard holy shit
>>151660819Explain Lilith and Eve for me pls
>>151681195>seriously thought that emily's gift baskets would workevery female in this show is fucking useless
>>151681184>train 364 days a year erry year>still job
>>151681217Vivziepop co-wrote this with Kishimoto, he also gave her advice on how to improve on homoerotic rivalries
>>151681244To be fair, apart from being able to fly, they're still normal warriors in a heavily magical setting
>>151680128For Zestial and Carmilla they should have stuck with the old pilot idea that Lucifer sheltered some of the Overlords he liked and had friends among them. But it doesn’t really fit now since he hates all Sinners.
>>151681217>>151681266Keep in mind that Abel approved the gift baskets because of his Emily simping and Pentious (The only sinner Sera had) didn’t expect them to be used for a protest instead of the hotel, where it would’ve been far more appropriate.Although, the baskets do have a secondary meaning in itself about Adam’s and Abel’s life in Heaven and how empty they are inside.
>>151681329Zestial doesn’t need it. His mom defends him and he loves to see how powerless everyone else is. So he gets weirded out when Carmilla wants to defend him.
>>151681217Actually, Niffty is the exception. She is the ONE female who is allowed to do shit.
>>151679721That’s probably what the first couple exterminations were like, highly precise strikes against the oldest Overlords which is why an old retiree like Zestial is the oldest one remaining. This led to newer Overlords rising up but learning from the previous so they go into hiding during E-Day, and with no Overlords available to kill the exorcists eventually turned to wholesale slaughter of the normal sinners, because denying overlords their minions souls also helps weaken them.
>>151681272Allegedly they were supposed to be invulnerable to normal weaponry, so actually showing that off would have at least made them seem cool and threatening.
>>151681372>highly precise strikes against the oldest OverlordsNo I'm pretty sure Alastor just killed them all.
>>151680128>>151681125>Because they don't give a shit about actually making Hell safeThis was never, ever stated as even a pretext for the exterminations. It was always about numbers. In terms of numbers, an overlord is equal to a regular bum ass sinner, but potentially orders of magnitude more difficult to take down. People seem to get confused by this because everything is framed from the victims' perspective, but quite obviously none of this is for Hell's benefit. One more dead sinner is one less soul that can be used to power up some overlord or Lilith herself. It doesn't matter who it is, so, strategically, going after only small fry makes total sense. The only reason not to is compunction over it they don't possess.
>>151681372The exterminations started 7 years ago. Alastor had cleaned the table way before that
>>151681407This show has a problem with telling and not showing in general. Like Alastor is supposed to be the big bad radio demon but spent most of season 1 looking like a bitch. His creepy transformations just looked like a more effective version of Lucifer's intimidation attempt, with just as much backing it up.
>>151679511yeah lucifer's part in vox populi should have been a full song, it's so good
>>151681544Lucifer does have power, but he can’t use it.
>>151681797Functionally that's the same as not having power. As much as he might try to intimidate, he can't actually do anything. It might as well be magic tricks.
>>151681797>>151682027He can't directly swat sinners, but as the king of Hell he could just get the sins or goetia to beat them up.
>>151681439>>151681509That begs the question of both how many did he manage to kill, and the better question: HOW.if the exterminations only started 7 years ago then Hell had no angelic steel to perma-kill sinners yet, so how did Alastor get rid of them?
>>151682078They're probably still alive in a sense, just with their souls being eternally tormented by him and powerless to do anything about it.
>>151682078I thought their souls get trapped in his radio?
>>151682163We at least know he can tear souls apart, not permakill, since they still scream in his broadcast, but to a point they can't regenerate maybe?
>>151670500yes many female characters in the show are strong but strength doesnt equal actual influence. "Potential man" is a popular meme cuz it points out how certain characters are supposed to be hyped up as "strong" but ultimately do nothing. Sera should have the power to ANNIHILATE vox but doesn't. lute hasn't actually managed to kill or hurt any of the cast and got wasted in the end. Lilith and eve still haven't appeared so it may change but rn the female characters are literally all "potential girls". not to say the men aren't cursed too (lucifer especially got cucked and entrapped) but its clear when vivziepop likes a male character enough that she actually has them do something (Literally gave vox all the plot armour and influence for yaoi fanservice). Emily suprisingly is the only character who actually does something and is more of a main character than charlie but even then there is no way vox shouldve been able to restrain her shes a SERAPHIM.
>>151661672Only if Alastor uses it as a means of control. He's a sociopath, they literally can't feel love. The most he can have is general affection, but he'd never put their wellbeing over his own.Alastor was willing to let everyone die if Rosie didn't give him what he wanted.
>>151661672Why do cartoon shows always attract this type of ship and why are shippers of this constellation always the most obnoxious retards?This Alastor x Charlie shit is very similar to Silco x Jinx, except even more retarded given Charlie is already in a happy relationship
>>151682487It's also similar to the Jax x Pomni shippers in TADC too now that I think about it
>>151682487>>151682496people like toxic relationships.its kind of fucked up honestly.
>>151661672Honestly, I don't care about it.
>>151682027>>151682074When Alastor does his power things, they do something. Lucifer is annoyed by how great his power is but he can’t use it. And he’s too prideful to let others do things for him.
>>151682078>>151682104>>151682163>>151682308Remember, Alastor’s deal was with Lilith, who made a deal with Eve.Alastor has the means to showcase the pure terror of Hell itself by those links.
>>151680898Didn't think of it, but Lute egging Abel on about getting even with Cain (even if he's not Zestial) so once hostilities are open she can get her shot at laying absolute waste on Hell, would be a pretty nice plot
>>151681187Carmilla literally has the power of the CHANCLA. She's unbeatable.
>>151682901Cain is going to be Zestial Morde, so Abel and Lute could kill these two together as a “family”.Pretty twisted. Huh?
>>151682958Unless Lute REALLY gets in his head, tho, Abel's gripe is with Cain directly, he has nothing against his loved ones.But yeah, I would very much enjoy a lot of "I'll hurt them to punish you" misery for the next season
>>151683096> Abel's gripe is with Cain directly, he has nothing against his loved ones.Carmilla supplied Charlie the very weapons that killed his dad, but that’s just a bonus feature for Abel.He would kill Carmilla because he hates Cain that much.>Take the one you need>Make you watch 'em bleed >Will you break thinking how you couldn't save her
>>151682533>people like toxic relationships.teenagers and virgin shippers>its kind of fucked up honestly.only to eternally online faggots
>>151680128>>151681372In the pilot one of the people murdered by Exorcists is a Rosie... Partner? Coworker? Husband? Reasonably likely to be on her level or at least somewhat approaching overlordship, if she'd put his name on her boutique. So they do kill overlords if they catch any in the street.
