Was she good representation?
>>151665187Yes but she was a workaholic.
>>151665198So?
>>15166520619 year old girls can’t relate to that.
>>151665187No. I said it then, it’s ridiculous that you market the hell out of “first black Disney princess” and then make her a frog for 70% of the movie.
>>151665187She was a frog like 70% of the film.
>>151665243Black animator: >What if the Chipettes were in their 20s having funny adult urban life adventuresWhite animator:>MUST TRANSFORM NEGRO INTO THING
First green disney princess
>>151665293Bitch, please
>>151665187Yeah we needed more frogs
>>151665187Imagine the internet meltdown if they made a trans Disney princess
>>151665243>>151665253>>151665287You're right. should've kept the bitch white
>>151665187>Hygienic, tall, handsome poo prince ignores fat white girl and falls in love with black girlIndia had to be shitting in the streets over that
>>151665371It would likely be like Ranma 1/2
>>151665187Isn't there some BTS story where the black women on staff at the studio, at some point during pre-production, had to team up and tell the bosses that Tiana needed a bigger butt?
>>1516652432000’s Disney movies:>a guy turns into a llama>a guy turns into a bear>2 people turn into frogsYou can’t convince they didn’t have a transformation fetish or something.
>>151665371It's coming
>>151665409Please be true
>>151665409They are heroes if true
>>151665409Based if true
>>151665423"The Incredible Mr. Limpet" had to have sexually disturbed an entire generation
>>151665187Is it weird that I find her frog form attractive?
>>151665431>It's comingNot after all the HRT it isn't
>>151665409All I know of is the groups calling Disney racist for early concepts of Tianna and the script, which I agree with them on majority of their complaints.>mfw they thought Maddie was a good name.That shit isn't fucking princessy at all.
>>151665463kek
>>151665388The sequel set in his princedom, featuring the hit Randy Newman songs: >What Is That Smell>You Must Not Redeem>Good Morning Sirs>I've Made a Terrible Mistake
>>151665482>Black Character.>Black group complain about racism.Gee, who could've seen that coming
Why did it have to be frogs why wouldn’t that have her transform into a big ass anthro hippo instead and have the prince turn into that too so they can twerk and rub their butts together.
>>151665482>Madeleine isn't a princess name Based homeschooled retard
>>151665502>Black groupIt's funny you think that.
>>151665187Why did she need to be a princess anyway?
>>151665508>Let's admit we're copying DreamWorksThey shelved The Wild for like five years to avoid being called out on that
>>151665532She didn't, she wanted to run a successful restaurant until Prince Nosoap swept her up into his arms
>>151665388>Prince brings Lottie back instead>Sequel is about her being gawked at and constantly rapedThe musical numbers would be amazing
>>151665187I only watched the film recently but I liked her, I don't know if that means she was good representation or not but I think being a good character is more important
>>151665518they pretend to be a black group.I really don't give a shit who is really behind these people
>>151665502The only winning move is not to play
>>151665187Not as good or interesting as the villain but in general OK.
>>151665690Something like this should be easy to argue against. So, why is it at all noteworthy?
>>151665706That was pretty much the case for all Disney villains up until recently.
>>151665287It is really something that any movie with blacks still requires them to turn into something. >spies in disguise >souletc
>>151665187As in makes the group look good, or as in accurate to the majority of the group?
>>151665371Princess Marco
>>151665706He feels style-over-substance, he’s pretty cool aesthetically but it’s that aspect that carries him.Honestly if this movie came out today chronically online Xittertards would bitch about this portrayal of voodoo as being racist or some shit like they did with Alastors.
>>151665834Wrong, tumblrshitter
>>151665733because black person complaining, stop the presses!
>>151665187She was a working black woman, with no struggles other than not having money to buy a restaurant and no bad qualities, other than working too much
>>151665704Or not to make movies about blacks center around unwanted transformation, which seems like a pretty big ask for these calarts retards
>>151665706>In the sequel by mistake the ghost of Facilier is voiced by David Keith
>>151665834You mean Princess Turdina
>>151666015or let blacks make their own damn movies.a black person? fund their OWN movie with THEIR money? BWAHAHAAAAAAA
>>151665187She's mid. Even in her own movie.
>>151665187She was hot in that dress. The film also gets credit for having a spoilt rich girl character who was still a good person.Film just lacked that, for the lack of a less corporate term, magic. Songs were faithful to the setting but it came at the expense of them being memorable (outside of Friend on the Otherside), the only one you could even really hum to was just a generic gospel style song.
>>151666197They fired Alan Menken to hire a fake Louisianan who for the first time in his career did not bring his A game. Randy is everything Will Sasso depicted him as on MADtv.
>>151665482watching The Crown, Maddie seems like the kind of nickname that a member of the royal family would have. Only it's not stupid enough. If her given name was Madeline, they'd call her Muppie, or Madulu.
>>151665187>first black Disney princess>is literally a frog for a majority of her film in order to appease ChinaWhat did Disney mean by this?
>>151665453Was ist das Limpet?
>>151665839The script is aimless for most of the movie, and it drags everything down. Facilier's great but doesn't have a lot of agency and vanishes for a big chunk of the movie, Tiana and Naveen are likable, but again they just sort of wander around waiting for shit to happen most of the time. If the script had a few more passes, TPatF could have been a lot more than, "the one with the black princess," at best and "the one that killed Disney's 2D animation," at worst.
>>151667219to be fair, no matter which princes they made black people would bitchSnow White and Cinderella - why is she slaving away for other people?Sleeping Beauty - Ugh why is she asleep for most of the movieBelle - Ugh why is she with a literal animal?Ariel - Why is is she silent for most of the movie?
>>151667488Not really. The issue is visibility. A lot of Asians just hate dark skin and don’t want to watch films with dark skinned protagonists even if they are cute girls. Back in 2009 Hollywood was heavily dependent on Chinese money to break even.
>>151667515I know, but the idea that Disney just picked the wrong character to make black is silly. if it's a black character, people WILL complain
>>151665765I want to say thats wrong but i cant think of another animated film where that didnt happenInto the spooder-verse doesnt count since its adapting a comicbookBut i cant think of a Black Main Character animated film that didnt do that from Princess and the frog to now
>>151667488I think it's telling that you had to go back to the older set of princess movies. They are movies that are easy to complain about because the princess is typical just a damsel or otherwise lacks agency. This argument doesn't stand up as well for things like Frozen, Brave, Moana, Tangled, or even Mulan. Obviously those would not work 1:1 transplanted because of their specifical cultural and hisotric framing, but the point is that any story like them would have presented relatively little to complain about, expect maybe Brave also dealing with turning black people into animals.
>>151667630Yes I deliberately went with the stories made before Tianna. the ones afterwards were already being made to try to stave off the woke complaining. also Mulan? Moana? you gonna make one minority into another and not expect backlash
>>151665187Why doesn't she count?
>>151667488>>151667563It is about raceswapping established characters for the sake of being "inclusive" rather than creating new characters, dumbass I have no problem with Tiana but Black people bitched over the original script where she had a different profession and name so Disney had to change it, if anything black people bitch over Princess & The Frog way more than whites ever did, Disney won't even use Dr Facilier on it's theme parks anymore since the see him as "racist", the only criticism I agree with is that Tiana does spend like 95% of the movie as a frog but they already did something similar with a Hispanic MC in Emperor's New Groove Race or skin tone has never been a problem as long as the character is an original creation, I mean haven't you seen how /a/ has a "Brown anime and/or manga girls" thread at least once per week?
>>151667981why are you yelling at me? I'm not talking about that at all.My point, which I said here,>>151667488was that no matter which character they raceswapped people would find an excuse to complain.I don't know where you're going with talk about raceswapping vs original characters
I don't know. Personally I don't give a damn about Tianna being a frog for most of the movie because being a frog doesn't take away from her character. I think people just care about appearances more than anything. Whatever though have seen the other movies about a person transforming for most of the plot and they're all fine there too like Soul.
>>151667488I don’t know, I think the argument that she should’ve been her princess form for no less than half of the movie is sound.What’s the point of having your first black Disney princess when she’s not even gonna be human the majority of the movie.Swan princess changed back to odette through the movie, they could’ve done a similar thing here.
>>151668138because the decision was to do a Frog Princess movie first, then to make her black. Everyone acts like they decision was to do a black princess first and deliberately choosing the worst story they could for her out of racism.
>>151668078they bitched about soul too. They even try to claim its some kind of racists trope where black character ALWAYS get transformed.
>>151668171Now they decided to make her black.And then make that a huge part of the marketing and appeal.Despite that they still wrote and animated a movie where she would be a frog for the vast majority of the film.It is a valid complaint.
>>151667615
>>151668259>movie based on existing media>animeYou tried
>>151667858I dunno, but Disney seems to hate this movie, since there are plenty of art of all the princesses together with her missing.Which is a shame because this movie is fantastic.
>>151668252It's not a valid complaint because they weren't obsessed with finding things to bitch about.They were doing a frog princess story and then said, "hey what if we make her black", then we got diversity too.Their mistake was pandering to those assholes in the first place because as I said>>151667488those people don't actually care about diversity, they care about complaining, no matter Which character Disney wouldn't used, there would ALWAYS be a complaint.
>>151668198If Soul counts as representation then you have to accept that Disney is still making high budget action movies about a white father protecting his family
You guys sure do love getting mad at hypothetical enemies.
>>151667820Again, it's not about 1:1 transplanting. Obviously you can't just drop a black girl into ancient China and not get backlash. The point is that a movie LIKE Mulan isn't going to get complaints about how a girl doesn't talk the whole movie or is asleep the whole movie waiting for a kiss, etc. A movie LIKE Brave or Mulan where a black girl defies traditional roles expected of her to instead go be a hero and save the day isn't going to get tons of backlash.You could have made Mo'quanda a movie about a black Caribbean girl that goes on some sailing adventure dealing with Caribbean folklore and spirits in the exact same vein as Moana, and you aren't going to get a bunch of backlash over her lack of agency, or how its poor representation because you don't have the black character stuck as a goofy animal for most of the movie or not talking while pining over a white sailor.It's disingenuous to try and wave this away as "people would complain either way!", and >>151667488 is a poor counter-argument. Yes, people would complain about old movies because those old movies have a bunch of "problematic" things. People are going to complain a lot less about a movie that treats the character seriously, assuming it doesn't fall into retarded, easily avoidable tropes like the animal thing.
>>151665243Oh shut the fuck up.Should I hate on the Swan Princess for making the main character a Swan most the movie? Maybe I should hate Brother Bear for making the first inuit disney character a Bear for most the movie? I guess we can't have fucking stories anymore if we don't have representation the ENTIRE movie.
>>151668331um okay?
>>151668282
>>151668355so ALL of the movies they've made so far are inappropriate. The only way they would be right is if they hired you and used your totally different ideas.This is your argument?Because I'm still wondering why anyone is obligated to not make THEIR movie the way THEY want.All your doing is proving my point. That unlike a white character which you can drop into any story and not get shit, they have to jump through all your hoops to avoid the bullshit.again. only mistake is giving a fuck what people like you think.
>>151666245Alan Menken isn't perfect, the songs in Spellbound weren't amazing.
>>151665532a lot of the disney "princesses" are not really princesses
>>151668453>>151668475>>151668487>so ALL of the movies they've made so far are inappropriate. The only way they would be right is if they hired you and used your totally different ideas. This is your argument?No, you fucking retard. That's some strawman you made up. If you had the basic wherewithal to follow a discussion, you would understand that the thread is about what constitutes good representation. If you want something to be good representation then yes, you dumb faggot, there are certain steps you have to take. If you want to make a movie representing the experience of the lower class during the great depression, probably don't make a movie about a farmer who finds a gold vein and becomes a rich mining tycoon living in a mansion. > a white character which you can drop into any story and not get shitYou are a fucking moron. White characters get shit all the time they are just so default, so commonplace that you are too busy moving on to the next badly received example to keep talking about the last one. Go over to the Supergirl trailer thread right now and let me know how little shit is being gotten over a white character.The Princess and the Frog is a good movie, Tiana is just kind of shitty representation since she spends most of the movie as a magical frog and not a black woman. Which is a common occurrence for black characters, so it gets complained about.
>>151668584Only one which isn't is Mulan
>>151667858Atlanteans are their own race
>>151668667>https://disneyprincess.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Disney_Princesses>Snow Whitecommoner never shown actually marrying the prince>Cinderellacommoner marries into royalty>Auroraactual princess>Arielactual princess (of fucking fish people lel)>Bellecommoner marries into royalty>Jasmineactual princess>Pocahontasdaughter of a chieftain, does not even marry into royalty>Mulanno royalty whatsoever>Tianacommoner marries into royalty>Rapunzelactual princess>Meridaactual princess>Moanadaughter of a chieftain>Rayadaughter of a chieftainOnly 5 actual princesses, with 3 "princesses" being consorts.
>>151668821Snow White is a princess. Her father was King before the Queen took over.
>>151668627How is it a strawman? you literally said it.>>151668355is you saying none of the existing movies are appropriate, they have to write a totally different character. what am I getting wrong?you say it AGAIN here> there are certain steps you have to take.So AGAIN, they have to jump through all your hoops to avoid the bullshit. Because nobody is making fun of Supergirl for how well she represents white people. That's not the complaint IS IT?No, people can't write about what THEY want. they have to make sure it's what YOU want. If I was to write a character and decide to make her black I gotta expect the bullshit.OR I'll just say fuck it, I'm gonna tell the story I WANTED to tell and keep the whole cast white. I'm gonna get called racist either way.and then when retards like you bitch about how come there aren't MORE black characters, you can remember this shit as the reason. GOOD JOB
>>151668876You're right, I was only using the small blurbs on that page but the full character page shows her royalty.6 actual princesses and 3 consorts.
>>151668821Snow White is the step daughter of the Evil Queen, meaning her father was a king. She's just treated like shit despite being royalty.
>>151668906You're right, my bad. >>151668903
>>151665409That was Shakira for Zootopia but I wouldn't be surprised if that was at least suggested by someone on the team.
>>151665187Yeah she's one of the better princesses. The movie is kind of strange though. The story is very boring and unmemorable but at the same time it has some of the best 2D animation Disney has ever done.
>>151668903Princess consort titles are extremely uncommon, they almost always over-ridden by a title that the wife a prince directly in line to the throne would have (for example: Kate Middleton, Princess of Wales). Almost all the princes in Disney films are directly in line to the throne so would give full princess titles. Only possible exception is Prince Naveem who is implied to be further down the line but that film literally has them confirming that Tiana is a full princess via a magical contract.Chief's daughter is a princess by another name.
>>151669088>Chief's daughter is a princess by another name.lel
This was the first African Disney Princess though
>>151669109Voiced by a WHIIIIIIIIITE WOOOOOOMAN
>>151669106If you wear a dress & you have an animal sidekick, you're a Princess
>>151668377The brother bear thing is an actually good point. I'm sure there are native Americans who have a problem with it but fair point anon.
>>151666015>Or not to make movies about blacksthis
>>151665187And singlehandedly killed Disney's hand drawn animation department.
>>151667615What about blacks with electric powers?
>>151667858To be fair, she is some sort of proto-ethnicity that isn't really anything specific.
>>151665187made for anal
>>151665187Honestly no, Tiana is inhuman in terms of being relatable.So she's a stick in the mud workaholic, I understand working hard to achieve your dream but Tiana's method is inhuman. Notice how the intro of the movie shows her working day and night two jobs for years without sleep. How is this bitch not dead? You NEED sleep. And no, three seconds of sleep doesn't count. And the movie shows Tiana still looking youthful when overworking to that EXTREME would leave her aged beyond her years and suffering from health issues.The clincher is that we saw Tiana's father working double and triple shifts at his job and he was exhausted when he arrived home at night. Tiana? Not really. Tiana is extremely not relatable because her dedication to working is inhuman.Even worse by the end of the film it wasn't hard work what helped Tiana achieve her dream it was criminal black mailing those businessmen using a wild crocodile threatening violence. So Tiana is not a good role model either.Honestly Princess and the Frog is an awful movie.
>>151665198That was the best thing about her. It made her endearing to see her try so hard for what she wanted.
>>151671257some of those are kind of a stretch. Storm does weather powers, Bumblebee has multiple bee powers. Shocker was white until ASM came along.Plus there's Blade, Luke Cage, Cyborg, Vixen, Miles Morales, Frozone...
>>151665839I mean, what else would you have wanted out of him? We got his motivation and his method of trying to get what he wanted and a song out of it too.
>>151665187Idk about representation but she was a good character.
>>151665706He's banned from Kingdom Hearts because word is having a white boy kill an African American villain is racist. And I'm inclined to believe this. America does love their African American tools despite doing worse things to Native Americans who you don't hear bitching the way Africans do.
>>151671493No, see >>151671381
>>151671513>Native Americans who you don't hear bitching the way Africans do.good one
>>151665187Not an accurate one.
>>151665704The guy straight up asks 22 why their voice sounds like a middle aged white woman despite it being a genderless races ageless entity and they reply “to sound as annoying as possible.”
>>151671620Heya Hiya Hiya Hiya Heya Hiya
>>151667196>Madeleine doesn't sound royalAlso fuck off back to /tv/, druktard
>>151665839There's also a good voodoo lady in the movie.
>>151671620Not all of them
>>151671641>ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT
>>151667563>stereotypes racist>not depicting stereotypes also racistevery time
>>151665187Tiana would cry at the hellhole New Orleans is today
>>151665187>15 years ago, Disney made the first and last 5ever black princess
>>151667858Because only f/a/ggots consider ambiguously brown characters with Caucasian features, white hair and elf ears "black"Go the fuck outside
>>151668198>to claimRead the fucking thread, it's an actual trope
>>151665287>>151665243they were damned no matter what. People back then were even complaining already that her love interest was gonna be another black guy saying "You just afraid of interacial couples" and then the other side was like "NOOOO!!!! R u SaYiNg A bLaCk GuRl HaS tO LeVeL uP bY h00kInG uP wItH a WyTe b0i???"
>>151665371That trans girl story in the baseball anthology look pretty nice, too bad it got removed.
>>151671948They were fucked because she literally did not need anyone else until the fucking macguffin made her kiss it and prince poo had no real collection to the plot other than to fulfill a trope
>>151665409idk about that, but I do remember hearing that originally this was gonna take place in a modern setting and be full of rap music and Lasseter stopped it.
>>151671917>Caucasian featuresNigga what
>>151665690>"It's about toys!"just made me burst out laughing. you could have black toys tho, like, there are black barbies and dark skinned dolls kids play with. (dont post a polly wog retards)
>>151671948Naveen is a Nafri,so the pairring is worse than WMBF since Nafris see blacks as subhuman right now
>>151668821>daughter of a chieftainthats royalty my guy, just not yuropeen royalty.
>>151667858>not even best girl in her own movie
>>151665287lol
>>151671257it's all because of Black lightening. THey created him and then wanted to use him on Super Friends but the og creator said no or something so they made "Not" Black Lightening, Black Vulcan, same powers (better name too) Then Years later I think Dwaye McDuffie made Static as an homage to Black Lightening and it just started a trend. >>151671424
>>151671917>Because only f/a/ggotsyou mean americans?
>>151672081oh is that a real nationality? i thought Disney made shit up.
>>151665187she killed disney hand drawn animationshe might have been a conspiracy by disney producers to get rid of the old guardmake a princess who will sell fewer movie tickets than all the previous ones BY DESIGN, then say: "i guess the era of hand drawn animation is over, shut it down"
>>151665187Didn't her series get canned after they realized tiana isn't profitable
>>151665409It wouldn't surprise me, it seems like a fucking psyop to not make black women attractive in media.
>>151672362what's with the flag?
>>151669109Ugh why is she so hot?
>>151672423Jews openly are hostile to black people in media.
>>151672362a lot of it, i feel, comes from the racism of lower expectations. Even people on the other side of the political spectrum seem to buy into the misconception of "White features" when it comes to beauty standards and human appearance. So they go out of their way to make black women in games look as different from white people as they can because anything else is just "Black Barbie" but there are black people, IN AFRICA! that look that way! "NOOO!!! We can give her any eye color other than dark brown!" motherfuckers there are black people with other eye colors! Not every black person has lips as thick as Geordi La Forge!
>>151672481it's like watching a fight between a call center indian and an insurance CEO
It's a TROPE? SHIT why didn't you say so! You didn't tell the the faggots at TVTropes have it listed. That totally makes it legit.
>>151672204every thread. you can set your watch
>le she was longer frog than blackYes, it's a fairy tale movie first. She's a human long enough.
>>151674593But Tiana is a great character, up there with Jasmine and Megara.
Barely grossed enough box office to cover the production and marketing budget and its performance disappointed Disney so much it killed off its traditional animation branch. Would the film performed better if it was a White Disney princess? Maybe but who knows we don't live in that timeline.
>>151673964imagine posting this after shitting on /a/ out of nowhere
>>151674625>The genes aren't good.African Americans have a lot of Anglo slavemaster DNA in them, so you're not wrong.
>>151674923>be little girl>see Arabian princess>see mermaid princess>see frog waitress>don't choose frog waitressLiterally what does anybody expect
>>151674774who said I was the one shitting on /a/?you DO know 4chan isn't just you and one other person, right?
>>151665423None of it is done in a remotely sexual way thought. TF fetish
>>151665187They made a 1920s black character without dropping "muh racism" anywhere in the movie, classy. She's just a black princess, nothing more, nothing less. I miss this era but why the fuck did they have to make her a frog for the whole movie?
>>151665187>Honest and hard working >Loyal>Knows how to cook>Acts bitchy to the bratty prince but warms up to him as he develops and improves his character without making either codependent or a feminist rhetoric of woman work men useless >Not grotesque >Has a realistic Louisiana accent but not over the top negro slangYes, even as a racist i still enjoy her character and wish they were like her.>>151665243That's actually a good thing
>>151665187>first blackwasnt cinderella essentially a slave though
>>151665187Her songs were great
>>151665389Now i'm imagining how Disney would butcher Ranma
>>151666197for one thing, she isn't a princess. she's a black girl from 1920s Louisiana. calling her a princess is like calling Jane from Tarzan a princess. The issue is she exists purely to check a diversity box; someone said "we need a capital B Black princess so black girls can have merchandise to purchase", and they worked backwards from there to create her. And because Disney write staff are all ignorant morons, they can only understand 'blackness' in the context of America, so they set it in America with an African-American cast. Because actual black Africans are totally alien and unmarketable to them. The only way they would've set the movie in Africa with an African cast is if they tried to pull the 'Black Egyptian' shit and made a black Cleopatra movie. Which I'm honestly surprised they haven't tried to do.
>>151667858made for boys rather than girls. same reason Nala doesn't count.
>>151671917>dreads>dark complexion>voiced by a black woman
>>151671556how much you think the fatty was seething internally for not getting to eat that food
>>151672081Ah arab rape babies with no actual culture and desperate need to be seen as white. >>151672174No actually. DC didn't want to pay him royalties. So they made up black Vulcan.Even in the static shock cartoon when mcduffie had full control of the dc universe DC told him no. So he made soul power. >>151672292Part of it. But really they were already getting rid of 2D. Most of the anti princess and the frog stuff was, much like the negative press of every actress and actor in their megaflops, was created by disney themselves. They did everything to kill this project without killing it including poisoning the well by hiring a bunch of race hustlers to play the anti-black by black people propoganda thing. Even if it made a billion bucks 2D animation was on it's way out and they could use this as a scapegoat. Negros are VERY convenient scapegoats in america.
>>151671556Siberian LARPers playing out a fantasy race play created by roosevelt.You're as native to america as the whites.
>>151677404the one on the left ain't bad. something tells me Eskimo chicks tend to be stocky with some thick legs and butts, what's the average for their three measurements?
>>151665187>16 years ago
>>151677221Elsa is a queenMoana is just a chiefs daughterBelle is a booknerdMeridia is just some low born scottish lords bratMulan is a cross dressing middle class girlJane is another bookwormPocahontas is a mindbroken captive, sideshow attraction and rape victim.PS this is what her father looks like. And why the all from africa thing is pushed so heavily. Your problem is that she's black. If this was never made you would still be the bitter pathetic trash that is happy with their low lot in life as long as you are better then the negros. I got news for you.If this was never made, you would still be pathetic bitter trash.
>>151677571>Elsacan't be queen until she marries. Princess Regent. >Moanaeffectively the equivalent of a princess in her culture>Bellemarried a prince>Meridaequivalent of a princess in her culture>MulanI agree, not a princess>Janeisn't ever referred to as a princess>Pocahontassee Merida, MoanaI would say the exact same thing if she was white, she isn't a princess.
>>151677662>>151677662>can't be queen until she marries. Princess Regent.Bitch that's not how it works.>>Moana>effectively the equivalent of a princess in her cultureShe is not>>Belle>married a princeHe's a low level noble. Not royalty. >>Merida>equivalent of a princess in her cultureNo the fuck she isn't. She's a low level noble. They have actual royalty and kings and queens. She's just a spoiled brat of the leader of a large clan. >>Mulan>I agree, not a princessCause she's asian. >>Jane>isn't ever referred to as a princessShe is in fact a princess according to Disney. For someone beating the drums you know very damned little. >>Pocahontas>see Merida, MoanaNot a princess. At all. DAT NIGRA AINTA A PRINCESS CAUSE SHE DA WRONG COLORThat's all you have to say. Go on. You're anonymous. You can say it.
>>151677751>say multiple POC (princesses of colour) are indeed princesses, and further state (more than) one of the white 'princesses' isn't really a princess, and my opinion of Tiana would not change if she were white>AY YO DIS WYBOI CRACKA ASS NIGGA BEIN RAYSIS AND SHEEITreminder there is no such thing as 'pretending to be retarded'.
>>151665243She was hot for 70% of the movie
>>151665187Yes. I've watched it with kids recently and it is nice classical Disney movie. No blackwashing because she is black from the start. No "cultural appropriation" because everything is done around established american black culture (the old one, not the nigger gangsta shit).If only blacks did live up to what is depicted in the show instead of being niggers and actually went to see the movie it woudln't flop.And probably the biggest mistake they made is twisting the princess and the frog plot (which is the only "cultural appropriation" part, but really who fucking cares about real princess and the frog story?). They could have gone with any other animal.
>>151668355>You could have made Mo'quanda a movie about a black Caribbean girl that goes on some sailing adventure dealing with Caribbean folklore and spirits in the exact same vein as Moana, and you aren't going to get a bunch of backlash over her lack of agency, or how its poor representation because you don't have the black character stuck as a goofy animal for most of the movie or not talking while pining over a white sailor.You do not know that. It is your wishful thinking. And looking that Soul also was shat on by black people. Your idea also would most probably be criticized by black people.You know, because she is carribean pirate and majority of niggers cannot swim so it is racist to put her on the sea.
>>151674994try to sell working hard to womento black women on top of thatyeah. Not gonna happen.PS. she also married a broke NEET prince without money.
SIXTEEN FUCKING YEARS
>>151665388Have you seen the wocial media comments under black instathots? Indian will coom to anything
>>151665187I never liked this idea of "representation" being something rewarded to a select few arbitrarily decided as "worthy" of it
>>151665187Wasn't until 2016 we got a latina Disney princess. I hate the thought that black automatically means diversity... it doesn't. That's just pandering. I feel that The Princess and the Frog was a decent movie. Gald it was traditional hand drawn animation with just CGI effects.
>>151667858Not black. Atlanteans could build a civilization, not just a hut village.
>>151665187imagine if she were your maid
>>151667858nah
