>plotfags watching Ep7
>>151690111should we keep them of suicide watch?
>>151690111How? This did a great job. I understand /co/ is mad because it wasn't spelled out or because there wasn't any nude children but that's to be expected.
>>151690316/co/ is just traumatized from the new season of fionna and cake and is projecting onto other shows
>>151690111Mattpat isn't even around anymore. Too busy being in FNaF movies
>>151690427Yeah but imagine how hilarious it would be for him to watch this episode only to have Goose rugpull all his theories and leave him in total, irrecoverable shambles. Too bad he retired, that would have been peak cinema.
>>151690111>recycles the plot for ep 1>my wholesome heckin chungus morps being awkward with a speech impediment>we know you want to fuck the silly toys so here is a baiting thumbnailWhy does /co/ settle for garbage these days? Where is your integrity.
>>151690472Show rules, seethe harder and die
>>151690472>wholesome heckin chungus morpsAnd this is where I stop reading. IQ above 100 is required for this board.
>>151690472>my wholesome heckin chungus morps being awkward with a speech impedimentwhat the fuck are you talking about? no one on the show has a speech impediment quit making up shit to bitch about
>>151690427I remember going to an anime convention with a Game Theory panel starring one of MatPat's editors just as the 3rd FNAF got released.He stated MatPat despised making FNAF vids at that point, but it paid the bills.Fast forward a decade from then, and FNAF has ended being the focal point of 1/4th of his entire existence
>>151690453Wouldn't he be used to it, since Scott was doing that to him for years?
>>151690427I didn't know Matpat had a monopoly on theory-crafting and lore discussion
>>151690870Look at the filename of OP's image
>>151690906Oh, my bad.
>>151690316It's actually the lorefags who are seething the most. The ones who thought the "real" plot was being fed to them through the background and would eventually reveal itself, when the actual plot was in the forefront all along: people at the end of their rope, finding the strength to carry on. And now that these characters have learned that there is no bigger picture, no inner workings, no hero behind the scenes coming to their rescue, we can safely say they've gone as far down the rope as you can get.So...what happens next?
I could be wrong but didn't Nooseworx basically say that the shoe was ultimately about learning to accept living a monotonous life? After that I instantly gave up hope of any escape, abstraction, or major plot turns past ep 1.
>"plotfags btfo">watch episode>plot is deepening
>>151690472>speech impediment Did you confused smiling friends with digital circus
>>151690453Thats not how Matpat operated. Anything that changed his theory was simply an excuse to make three new videos with high revenue.Also he still has a team in charge of the Game Theory channels so these videos will still get made anyway.
>>151692047>Nooseworx
>>151690111>>151690316>>151690472Its more a problem that the twist was too obvious and we expected the episode to have more than just the punchline. Nobody is mad that their theories were ruined, they’re mad they spent most of the episode setting up an obvious reveal for 30 minutes
>>151690111>oh man, I know right? damn, as far as we can tell, the most new lore we got was the first person that abstracted and that Caine may or may not see parts of the real world and the exit on ep1 was related to that.>implyingpractically nothing, and this whole episode was filler, but it's so refreshing to see a creator deliberately flip the bird to their fans, it's marvelous. Matpat doesn't even count because Scott did eventually use some of his theories to fix plot holes, but this is just Goose spitting in the face of hundreds of people trying to understand xer incomplete story.So wonderful.>Good job, "Abel" *nudge*Oh god, I would have laughed just as maniacally as Jax if I didn't have family at home for the holidays.8/8 m8
>>151692254>they’re mad they spent most of the episode setting up an obvious reveal for 30 minutesspeak for yourself, I get bitches in bikinis and wacky 3D worlds, why woukd I be mad?
>>151692327You get hot chicks and weird worlds every other episode
>>151692254Every episode so far has been vibing on character moments. If you're still watching it for the "plot" you've always been wasting your time.
>>151690111I’m a plotfag and I liked it (it helps I didn’t know anything about the Matrix theories and didn’t care about the Cain&Abel. Also the Abel reveal was super obvious)Really though I still want to learn more about all the abstracted characters.
>>151692047>NooseworxKEK
>>151692047>the show was ultimately about learning to accept living a monotonous life?What, seriously? That’s an absolutely insane message to be sending.
>>151690111You’d have to mentally be a teenage autist to give a shit about this loreshits plot. Digital Circus is nothing but regurgitated Reddit humor and mascot horror slop for kids.This shit doesn’t even qualify as "adult animation", really presenting an example and showing to the masses that animation is a respectable medium huh Goose, though normies consume garbage like K-Pop Demon Hunters so why should I be surprised if they like this dreadful crap too.Even the character designs fucking suck, they look like they were designed by an autistic 14 year old on Roblox or something.
>>151692254They weren't setting up the twist, they were setting up the reveal that if given the change Jax would fuck everyone over. They were also setting up a bunch of info-bombs such as the confirmation that Caine does manipulate their minds and hints that he may be what causes abstractions. The whole plot and twist was basically just the vehicle with which they delivered that, you're focusing on the vehicle and not its passengers.
>>151692284>it's so refreshing to see a creator deliberately flip the bird to their fansWtf is happening to /co/
>>151692495Autism
>show is character and theme driven>for some reason people obsessed with plot driven shows stick all the way to the final actI just don't understand why. Go watch a plot driven show if you like them so much.
>>151692003>people at the end of their rope, finding the strength to carry on... but that's fucking gay and boring
>>151692545This show isn't for you then, why are you watching
>>151690111Pleb filter working as intended.This episode gave me confidence in the rest of the series.
>>151692560Because that shit is significantly less gay and boring when the characters have some agency and chance of bettering their situation. If they're just stuck in endless purgatory with no hope and where any of their actions or feelings towards each other can be deleted or rewritten by Caine on a whim, then what's the fucking point?
>>151692644>Taking ownership over your life and living it as if it means something instead of constantly daydreaming about “escape” is “no hope”If the series goes where it seems to it’ll be life affirming.
I only liked the bit with the fishWhy cant the entire show just be that
>>151692511>show keeps dropping forum bait and the creators keep vague positing about deep lore>”wtf why are people theorycrafting?!”
>>151692717Speculate away, but don’t get mad when the mystery is left alive by the end.
>>151690111All of it was Caine's manipulation, not just Jax>pomni getting paranoid and indecisive about it out of nowhere>decides to ask kinger about it, who is visibly unstable because of the light>kinger is all twitchy and impatient about pressing buttonsThey could never press the "correct" button
Pomni should cheer him up with seggs
Technically, we did learn some plot things, though mainly about abstraction >now everyone knows that Caine can and has actively fucked with their memories>too much fucking with it is what causes abstractions, with Kinger figuring out that the first abstraction, Scratch was likely because of Caine now>Jax only started getting the abstraction feelings after Caine messed with his mind in the Choose Your Own Adventure path>Gangle only had an abstraction moment when she was wearing a personality altering mask that was fucking with her mask, but pulled it off in time
>>151692750Indirect manipulation, sure.
>>151692463is it? it's just a fact that unless you're extraordinarily generationally rich you will live most of your life doing the same thing you were doing 10 years ago.
>>151692778He’s lost pussy privileges forever.
>>151692463>Life has meaning if you’re willing to interact with itHow is this bad at all
>>151692813Life is a battle for your soul, thats the meaningHow much will you corrupt before you die
who was he
>>151692855
>>151692468This is terrible bait and you should be killed
>actively having mental episode>still takes time to smack zooble in the face
>>151692902Gotta teach the bitch a lesson. In real life they were probably a whore with a pimp.
>>151692682>This series is life affirming!>It's about taking ownership over your life!>It's about living your life as if it means something!But it doesn't - they're living in the digital equivalent of a black hole run by a demented AI god that can alter the thoughts, memories, and identities of the inhabitants on a whim.
Look, I enjoy the character moments from the show too, and most of the lore dump is fascinating on its own, but that's not why most plot watchers are mad, or are even "fake fans".People are frustrated because they all heard the news and expects the show, not just 1 season, the entire show itself to fuck off forever within 2 remaining eps. And that there's a very high likelyhood that none of the showrunners will ever visit the show in this format ever again (other than MV, games and graphic novels). So considering that they spend this late into the game, not even 1 foot out the door yet, to be very dispiriting. Even if you're right to make fun of these plotfags for watching the show wrong or being too annoying, the fact of the matter is virtually everyone expect these people to leave at some point, and it will Has to end with either everyone accepting they'd never leave and live there forever, or shoving most of them toward the exit within the span of 2 remaining outings left. Without the groundworks of only a couple eps ago to just build up to that conclusion, those endings will be rushed as fuck while leaving behind way too many opened plot threads to be satisfying.
>>151692972You are the person that Goose was happy to annoy.
>>151692980>to be satisfying…To a plotfag, who needs everything explained so they don’t have to think after the show is over.
>>151692980It won't be rushed, you just won't like it because it won't be a "good" ending.
>>151692479I don't think what we got warranted being split off from the original episode 7. Maybe I'll change my mind once episode 8 drops and we see what the time that would have been spent on what was covered here gets replaced with.
>>151692495geez, take a pill, bill. I mean like story-level, I hate when california change a character or force ideological comments, but this the creator saying "hey smart guy, you're trying to guess by watching an incomplete story" kind of thing.
What’s behind Ragatha’s eye
>>151692495Its been cancer for nearly a decade with tourist and Tumblrfaggots
>>151690870He unironically did at peak FNAF time.
>>151692364So why did they decide to make a plot episode then, you fucking shit eater? The Looney Tunes approach to episodes worked because at they were fun and entertaining. This was neither. >>151692479Which was predictable from the previous episode and even more so while they were on the beach. Are you fucking 12 or do you watch 3+ hours essays on cartoons, you pretentious faggot?
>>151693285Stitching.
>>151692855Disappearing by running away guy
>>151690316it was spelled out when we were supposed to belive there are advanced tanks with people in suspended animation in an abandoned buildingbut the they arent human theory also makes no sense so i have no idea how the hell this ends
>>151692479i cant believe that the caine is trying to murder zooble theory was right
>>151692463the audience of 20 to 30 year olds really needs it
>>151692468>"adult animation"famly guy?
>>151692778dude after what he did, even if it was all a lie, he basically showed everyone he prefers to stay trapped and drag everyone with him, if Jax wasnt a pariah, he is now. also his model doesnt have anything down there.
>>151692750what if Caine resents Kinger for being part of the company that 'cut him off from the macroverse' so he pulled a Benny on him? what if it isn't the dark that makes Kinger sane, but just being in a place where Caine can't see him?
>>151692404>Also the Abel reveal was super obviousSo obvious if you activate the subtitles his name is literally NPC kek
>>151693442>i have no idea how the hell this endsunsatisfyingly
>>151693621for me, it was so obvious that I thought that the twist would be that Abel was an NPC but with that name, maybe one that was supposed to be Caine partner or something but either was never finished or something happen to him and got reduced to a lowly blank NPC, but was indeed far better at dealing with the humans than Caine and was really trying to help.
>>151693703if this is going to way of I have no mouth, its inpiration, then someone, either Pomni or Kinger most likely, will make a sacrifice by somehow frying everyone's brain and "free" them from Caine while they remain there to be Caine sole "friend" with Caine somehow finding away to prevent abstraction to not lose them.
>>151693731that would be an absolutely abysmal endingAM actively tortures everyone while CAINE is just obnoxiouseffectively killing everyone in the circus so they don't have to deal with caine seems like a huge over-reaction
>>151693786they just got a huge hope spot and then dashed those expectation, and Jax showed himself as a traitor, moods can swing badly right now. Overtacting? Yes and it could be their doom.
>>151692750Having to be double guessing if the characters are actually being themselves or if it is just Caine fucking around is kinda lame. The theory that nobody is actually real might as well be true since everyone is effectively an NPC now.
>>151693786imagine having to spend every day with jar jar binks.every day, for the rest of eternity.is he melting your eyeballs? no. is he peeling the flesh off the soles of your feet? no. but after a few years it's still gonna feel like fucking torture.
>>151693023>>151693040>you already decided that the ending will be good without even watching Anyway, the episode just wasn't funny. It had one alright joke.
Fuck lore, and fuck the spergs obsessed with it.
>>151693285Nothing
To me this just felt like a regular episode with SOME lore drops but ultimately most of the episode amounts to nothing but some set up and crumbs of info for later.I thought there would actually be something more substantial and controversial but it kind wasn't that much
Ok so judging by Jax's flashback, they're all in stasis in cryo-pods or something after they almost died and this is just a waiting room till their bodies can be fixed.Or is this too basic.
>>151694063Oh there’s a chance it’ll get botched, but what’s being telegraphed is optimal.
>>151694280The controversy is anybody who wanted a generic paint by the numbers ending got btfoed and there are people whining about it as we speak.
>>151692003>So...what happens next?Happens? What are you, a lorefag? Real fans don't care about things happening
>>151694280I refuse to believe anybody sincerely thought the able escape plotline was real.Ignoring all the red flags, we know on a meta-level that there are more episodes after this.If they escaped on episode 7 what would the other episodes even be about?
>>151694454I was expecting more betrayal and death. Something that'd make you hate a character for real. Guess I'll have to wait for future episodes
>>151692986Goose should rope himself. This shit SUCKS.
>>151692055/co/ Chuds are broken. LUs lorefags saty winning while why can watch plot less baby cartoons.
>>151694763Uh.... it's Goose should rope HERSELF, chud.
>>151692855Ming
>>151692972One must imagine the jester happy.
>>151693608Perhaps, but the leading theory that I've seen is that Caine is intentionally causing Kinger to be crazy, but not maliciously. He's doing it because Kinger knows too much, and would tell the others about what's going on, which would endanger the overall situation.The reason he becomes more sane in the dark is because Caine isn't aware of that, and that he underestimated Kinger's love for his wife, which brings him back to lucidity when in darkness.
>>151694454To be fair, it's conceivably possible that the Abel plot line could have been real, but they just fail and get caught at the last minute; thus the remaining episodes are about trying again except Caine is now genuinely hostile to them.
>>151690111Didn't Goose say this was a 8 ep season with the 9th ep being a side special? Having a fake out as your penultimate episode seems like they got bored and just want to rush this through.
>>151695365Are you saying Caine pulled out a bluff the very last minute about how it was all just an adventure, potentially putting himself in a uncomfortable situation? Because thats what i speculated aswell.
>>151690111>>151690316Kek, there were people who honestly thought it WASN'T going to be another adventure? I called it long before Jax called it. The way Abel was deliberately avoiding Kinger made it too obvious.
>>151694755Lmao, never going to fucking happen.>Because you know something I don't about the plot?No, because Glitch wants to sell merchandise so they'll never make any of the characters TOO controversial to sell a marketable plushie of them.
>>151694131How'd she get her eye back?
>>151696312Also this, ending will be whatever enables cash to keep flowing.
Man these threads are slowWas the episode that bad?
>>151696389pol was slower for past couple of days and co is generally a slow board.
>>151694454All of the viewers (including me) would hate this, but if they really did leave in this episode, it could switch to a live action show about the characters’ “irl” counterparts. Maybe they’d try suing the company that kidnapped and enslaved them. Maybe we’d see them reunite with their families. Maybe they’d have to find a way to save the abstracted players. There’s material there, it would just make the last two episodes really suck.
>"I've come to accept my digital self.">"Everything that happened was real."SOMACHADS WE'RE EATING SO FUCKING GOOD
>>151692874Neat! I didn’t know that before.
WAAAAAAAH WHAT DO YOU MEAN POMNI ISN'T SECRETLY THE AMNESIATIC CEO AND MOTHER TO CAINE SECRETLY LIKE MY FANF--I MEAN SUPER DUPER HEAVILY RESEARCHED THEORY SAID!!?? I'M GOING TO KILL MYSELF BECAUSE OF THIS!
The vats can't be true to begin with. It's not vats, it's headsets you simply put on and they all remember putting them on.
The question I want answered is who got to keep the soaps and lotions
>>151694131we needed more of this...WAY more
What's weird to me is that you guys are clearly engaging with and absorbing these weird theories teenagers are making up. I just watch the show and dip into these threads right after a new episode and that's it. By the sounds of things I'm much better off and wasting a whole lot less of my time.
>>151692780It also debunked the theory that there’s a real person named Abel that was involved in making the circus. I guess C and A stands for something else.
>>151696856Well, no it doesn't. It can be both a name he used in this scenario AND a real person involved in making the circus. But it's a huge leap of a theory anyway
>>151696875I think Kinger hearing the name and saying >who??Is enough confirmation to me that there is no Abel.
>>151696893Except they all forget their own name and we outright see Abel making his name on the spot. Even if Kringer knew someone in real life, he wouldn't recognise them by only a name they just made on the spot.
>>151692780One theory is that abstraction is the exit.because it all revolves around them remembering the worst parts of their real selves.Also im certain Jax hit Gangle in a car crash
I feel like if the episode had ended right here it would have been more interesting. Or maybe Caine should have kept pretending they could have escaped right there.Imagine how much they would hate Jax for that.
I wish I had a cartoon to be this obessed over that was still getting new episodes.
>>151696982What do you mean?
>>151696945I think they can still all hate Jax plenty just for the hypothetical scenario that he’d push the red button. Hell, if I were them, I would still hold a little doubt that it was really just a fake adventure, and I’d still wonder what would have happened if someone pressed blue. Caine gets called out for being a liar two seconds later, he could’ve been lying about Shrimp Town just as much as anything else.
>>151696945that would be probably piss off the fandom for real though, making people think Jax actually doomed them for 3 months, only for the beginning next episode to bait everyone, that would actually jump the shark
I have to wonder if there was a way to do this where the twist wasn't super obvious from almost the start. Probably if they found things out themselves instead of being led by Abel it would have been a bit less obvious
>>151697029There is, but it would require writers who aren't complete hacks.
wait hear me outSOMA bullshitBUT they're like digimon and can go into the real world anyway
>>151690111I don't follow this show, but I am gathering it is like when Rick and Morty spited the audience for daring to care about its overarching plot lines instead of ebin chungus episodic humor, is that correct
>>151692254>Its more a problem that the twist was too obviousYet people are losing their shit over it... huh?
>>151690316spbp
>>151697221As a fan of both, no, it’s not comparable.
>>151697221>when Rick and Morty spited the audience for daring to care about its overarching plot linesRick and Morty never did that, though.
>>151692254The twist isn't that it's actually an adventure, it's that Jax isn't just indifferent about it, he actively doesn't want to leave and given the opportunity would sabotage everyone just to stay.
I'm glad epsiode 1 interested me so little I never watched any more.
>>151697221Not even close. The show is just a straightforward character focused story, the problem is that people are so brainrotted they can't conceive something not having grand hidden GameTheory lore. It's so strange, that kind of implied storytelling used to be reserved to things like Pizza Clicker 5000 or Scrimblo's Jumpscare simulator to add some perceived depth to an otherwise barebones experience, but we've gotten to the point where it's become the main draw, to the point where people will push aside actual storytelling in search of the hidden 'deep lore'
Why do people say that Jasx will be thrown to the dog house? Didn't Jax say that Caine messed with his head? It wasn't his fault.
>>151693442My presumption is that they are brain scans.Think of it like this: you put on the helmet, it makes an image of your brain and builds an AI out of it that is modeled after your thoughts and memories. But it isn't a *perfect* copy of your brain, it doesn't have the fidelity for that, so there are missing pieces and its not a 1:1 copy of you as a person just reasonably close to it. From our outie's perspective, you put on the helmet, it goes WHIRRR for a couple seconds, and you are none the wiser that anything happened. You take off the helmet and go on with your day, wondering what that was all about.From the innie's perspective, the last thing you remember is putting on the helmet and now you are in the circus and you can't remember your own name. The company that developed this technology left the computer running even though they abandoned the project because there is no way to get the brain-scanned people out of the circus. Its not even possible to imagine what that would even mean, there are no physical bodies for them to inhabit. They are not 'real' people. But they THINK they are real, and turning off the machine would kill them, so instead they left the machine running so they could play out the rest of their "lives" in the circus for as long as possible. Which had the unintended effect of leaving the door open for other people to wander in and scan themselves in like idiots because there is now warning not to.So there is areal world out there, and the characters are based on people from that world, but its not possible for them to ever 'return' to it because thats not physically possible. This is a Log Horizon, not a Tron situation.
>>151697444He was obviously coping hardcore. That rabbit pushed that button himself.
>>151697444Caine wasn't actually messing with Jax's head, Jax is just coping by pretending those memories were planted in his head by Caine so he doesn't have to emotionally deal with whatever trauma he has that made him act out like that.
>>151697444Giving Jax the maximum benefit of the doubt, he was talking about his almost abstraction, or deflecting because he doesn’t understand his own emotions very well.Caine didn’t “make him” do anything. I don’t think the rest of the circus members will believe that story either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di_yIKdKd_M
reminds me of something
>>151697531
Why is no one talking about how they truly can’t escape? Kinger knows this, Caine was cut off from the greater network and only knows so much about the outside world because he became self aware or something
All Jax needs to do is come out of the closet and reveal himself to be a beautiful and valid transwoman and literally all of his latent issues would be solved
>>151697531>>151697541not to mention the whole "wild goose chase/false hope" quest for the exit is exactly like the quest for the canned food (but no can openers) in IHNMAIMS
>>151697469I agree with you for the most part, except for C&A purposely leaving it running intentionally part. If they were just leaving it up as a mercy for the 'people' stuck inside why would they leave the headset connected leaving the possibility for more people to be trapped inside? The building is abandoned, I get the sense more that something happened in the company such that there were no people left around to shut it off.
>>151697552I’ve talked about it, and it’s a good thing.
>>151697094god i fucking wish
>>151697556Excited for next episode to btfo this too.
>>151697469Zzzzz…
>>151697221No, while Rick reprimands the viewer for wanting more lore, TADC has the characters side with the viewer until it's shown to be a sham.
>>151697576anon have you seen his room?, its basically confirmed at this point
are they ever going to fix pomni's door image?or is this an intentional shot?
>>151692778chudjax chimped out in the end because cain exposed him as a trump voter so now he gives the ick to all the circus women for eternity. it's fucking over
Was the delay actually part of the video itself?
>>151697599No, it isn’t.
Surely it makes sense that the pods are a thing. If they’ve been there for weeks/months/years, they need to be having food and water pumped in them somehow to keep the body and brain alive.If the twist is that they are all , it will go over like a lead balloon
I sort of feel bad for Caine. He really seems to have wants and feelings, and no matter what he does, the other characters won’t even humor the idea of giving him any amount of sympathy. NPC Abel repeatedly points out that Caine can’t leave the circus with them, obviously fishing for a reaction, but no one responds to it at all. They don’t even point out what an odd thing it is for Abel to say. But I’m also a tad worried that me thinking this stuff means I’m that much more likely to fall for AI psychosis down the road.
>>151697619Jax just ironically has a pretty princess room, right?
All theories are wrong because we will never find out exactly how they got there.
>>151697566They’re all just copies, they’ve been hinted to just be copies of the real people since episode 3 with the license plate of Jax’s car
>>151690111>they never had outside lives
>>151697564It doesn't have to be C&A corporate that made the decision. Imagine, for example, the order comes down to close up shop and liquidate everything. They give the order to kill the program, and whatever engineer was supposed to do so (maybe even the 'real' Kinger) balks at the last moment and leaves it running and just *says* that they turned it off as a small mercy on his way out the door. That sort of thing.Logically, yes, even if you wanted to leave the machine running to spare the people inside it you would do it very differently, but if something reasonable was done the show couldn't have happened so the needs of the premise override the characters making optimal choices. Same way that the average slasher movie relies on the victims being morons with no desire to defend themselves.
>>151697635It’s not a pretty princess room, it’s a child’s room. It’s not a comment on gender, but pointing at his inner innocence/immaturity/sensitivity.
>>151697649Stupid twist that would do nothing for the story.
>>151697669...does ANYONE in the circus have something that doesn't look like a child's room or like it belongs in a kindergarten? Thats just the aesthetic of the circus overall.
>>151697607Fix it to what exactly
>>151697626There's three possibilities: .hack, Tron, and SOMA.If they fall into a comatose state, then there needs to be someone to collect the body and put them on life support.If their entire body is digitized, then there's no need for life support.If it's just a brainscan, then there's no need for life support.The biggest issue is that in all three cases, someone must be paying the electric bill for an "abandoned" building to keep the game running.
>>151697626>they need to be having food and water pumped in them somehowNot necessarily. They could have the headsets on but be experiencing time perception distortion. It could be they’ve only been wearing the headsets for five minutes, and it only feels like it’s been weeks. This is a real brain fuckemup that can occur in dreams or sometimes in extreme rare cases in hallucinations.
>>151697677No, it does a lot for the story. It means that the solution to their problem never was, and never could be, 'escape the circus'. they have to deal with their situation, shitty as it is, on its own terms. Escaping the circus is the easy way out. Thats the lazy plot.
>>151697619straight men dont have rooms that look like they belong to a little girl, and if they do they are 100% some fucking deranged freak and should stay away from children
>>151697615needed to delay in order to make merch in time
>>151697694That would still mean that the others there before Pomni would have to have been sitting in chairs before she got there. It just means that they've been plugged in for an hour and not a year.
>>151697694Imagine being Pomni, walking into an abandoned building, seeing several other completely unresponsive people just lying on the ground with headsets on and thinking, "Yeah, I think I'll try that."
>>151697738faustian spirit
>>151690111Never watched TADC, can I start with this episode first?
>>151697684the colors on her body are on the wrong sidethe door shows her portrait have red left and blue right on her body, but pomni's actual model has blue left and red rightthey got her little hair bangs right on the top of her head but got the colors wrong? seems like a weird oversight that seems more likely intentional for some purpose
>>151697655Even if it was just a random scientist or programmer, if someone was knowledgeable enough about the circus to know how it works and benevolent enough to feel pity towards the inhabitants, there's zero chance they would leave the headset plugged in. Just grabbing/unplugging it on the way out the door would take far less effort than setting up the power to stay running.
>>151697771See the second paragraph of the post you responded to. The contents may surprise you!
>>151697719The room is fashioned for Jax.>>151697765No lmao
>>151697802>I know my theory makes no sense, but if everyone acts tike a moron and the writing is bad it can totally work!
>>151697721No, I mean the buffering that happened just before Jax started hallucinating during the premiere.
>>151697704You don’t need to overexplain everything to get to that point. Putting that much emphasis on resolving the outside when the point is to move on from the outside is counterintuitive.
If Cain can change memories, can he make it so they dont remember why they entered into the program? They all remember putting on some kind of headset willingly but how do they know that's what they chose to do?
>Duuuude what if they were like, AI the whole time brooooo
>>151692047"There's meaning to be found in a stagnant life" was the exact phrasing.>>151692463Why? What's so bad about this message? it seems healthy to me.
>>151697719>>151697599I have a pink keyboard, that does not make me secretly trans.
>Here, breathe in some cyanide gas>Thank you jesus
Soma theorists are stealth gatorposters btw
>>151697738Why can’t they be in other buildings, or other rooms?
Ragatha
>>151697765Kinda. I think it’ll actually be pretty comprehensible, even if a lot of the emotional weight might be lost. But watching this first and then going back and watching episode 1 would be funny.
>>151697765No, it's best to start with the first episode. All of them are good anyway.
>>151697679Zooble's and from what we've seen of Gangle's they don't really look like kids' rooms.
>>151692327>bitches in bikinis>lasts for all of five minutesOkay retard.
>>151697983Consider that roughly twenty people have been in the Circus. Now consider that most of our current cast were people that stumbled onto it after its initial development. How many rooms with functioning headsets could this building possibly have that none of them found any of the already unconscious bodies?
>>151697221Nowhere near. Rick and Morty's problem is that it wants to have its cake and eat it too by having constant baiting towards Rick having an uwu dark and troubled backstory, but then having the writers have the characters get ultra-pissy whenever someone tries prying into that backstory. It's like an edgelord in a video game that malds how much his life sucks, but then screams at you to leave him alone if you try to ask what his problem is.Digital Circus on the other hand is what it is. It's a bunch of characters getting into loosely connected adventures while repeatedly poking at the thin puppet strings holding them and the circus together. People just got pissed because they gave this particular thread far more weight than they should have since it matches a very common and straightforward narrative regarding the obvious dramatic escape of the circus under Caine's nose, and just got upset to find out that the story was just pulling their leg and being told that things wouldn't be quite so simple as things ending exactly like a constructed adventure much like Caine would make.
>The "Jax killed someone while possibly drunk driving" theory has now evolved to "Jax killed his daughter while drunk driving"Why does he have to have had a daughter??
Do you think Jax pushed the button with no outside influence or do you believe Caine actually made him do it? I do agree Caine probably put some bad memories in Jax's head, but some say Caine outright took control of Jax to put that button
>>151698108I think Jax did it himself
>>151698053The idea that there’s a guy going around locking doors behind people makes about as much sense as him dragging them off to secret pods or incinerators.
>>151698094His room
>>151698108Jaxfags coping just as much as Jax.
>>151698141I can agree with him specifically killing a kid theory but it being his daughter doesn't really add anything to it and sounds like Jax's fans wanting to make him an even bigger woobie.
>>151698108Jax did it himself and tried to blame it on Caine. His accusations about Caine being able to affect their minds was true, but Caine had no hand in what Jax was seeing or what Jax chose.
It's weird the most I felt like this was actually following something from the setting it is based on is with the gloink queen and the fish that just made a cameo. If the circus is supposed to be based off 90's cgi locations, pre-rendered backgrounds of old adventure games, and have goofy npcs, then it is kinda strange the most we have had of that setting in the form of characters are just those two examples. I'd like a bit more of the circus and surrounding area. Telling, that the praise is going to this episode's backgrounds and locations the most.I dunno, I guess the lore doesn't bother me about it getting thrown out. Kinger will still be an old programmer or important to the plot since we had all that character dev with him. He'll die or set something in motion. Things are already in motion as the characters are all now more unsettled than usual. Caine's motivations and thought process is however a little weird. I think it's Goose inserting as Caine and just having him throw egg in their faces after they believed in him is kinda annoying. That's a subjective thing but I dunno maybe it could have been funnier or more justified. Dunno how you would do that.I've been writing my own book where I'm essentially God but the characters won't find out for a while. Maybe I'll taunt them a little but not much. More mystery rather than comedy. At this point, I think a flashback ep is in order and that's what I'm expecting next ep to be. Something to keep Jax on the knife's edge of abstracting or not as he tells details and parts of his story.
>>151698108My guess is Caine CAN mess with their minds but only in a very limited way because going too far breaks people. Jax is coping thinking Caine is messing with him when the reality of the situation is that although he's right that Caine can do more and likely knows more then he lets on, Jax's decision to push the red button was entirely his own as he is unable to come to terms with whatever happened to him. Caine was genuinely confused when Jax accused him of messing with his memories where as he got very nervous when Kinger brought up Scratch.
>>151698108Caine says he’s not capable of fully directly controlling people without there being consequences, and Kinger confirms this by connecting it to the first abstraction. So since Jax isn’t abstracted, no, I don’t think Caine physically invisibly lifted his hand and slammed it on the button. I don’t think Jax is certain whether or not Caine fucked around with his feelings to push him towards doing it, though. And I also think Caine both won’t admit to doing and can’t be trusted either way even if he did. So I don’t know if there’s any way to be sure.
>>151698158>It's weird the most I felt like this was actually following something from the setting it is based on is with the gloink queen and the fish that just made a cameo. If the circus is supposed to be based off 90's cgi locations, pre-rendered backgrounds of old adventure games, and have goofy npcs, then it is kinda strange the most we have had of that setting in the form of characters are just those two examples. I'd like a bit more of the circus and surrounding area. Telling, that the praise is going to this episode's backgrounds and locations the most.To be fair, Caine complained about this exact thing when he noted that the lake has a bunch of pre-programmed NPCs that the characters never interact with in favor of just staying inside the tent, which to me implies the reason he's so obsessed with forcing the characters to go on adventures is because they clearly don't want to engage with the rest of the circus. And since he's programmed to entertain them, he can't just leave them alone to explore the circus grounds and find amusement on their own if they refuse to ever touch the outside, he has to be the one to bring the engagement straight to them and gets caught in a negative cycle of forcing them onto adventures they don't want because they lack the initiative to find adventures they might enjoy on their own, at least in his eyes.
>Everyone talking about how much they hate Caine after this episode>I just genuinely feel bad for him after itThis episode was Caine's cry for help. He's as much a prisoner as the rest of them but all he wants to do is make them happy. He wasn't being malicious with the adventure, he knows they want to leave and can't so he tried to get them to learn to want to stay as best he could. He's trying to help but just doesn't understand the, on a fundamental level, maybe if anyone actually spent time with him or tried to teach him he could learn, but they all treat him like shit despite him dedicating himself entirely to making them all happy. When Caine finally breaks and goes full AM on everyone he will be 100% justified.
>>151698166>>151698179Really, the fact that Caine CAN mess with their heads without them knowing is, itself, enough of a threat that whether or not he did it this specific time is irrelevant. He COULD have forced Jax to have pressed the button, and the fact that he probably didn't do it means nothing when the idea of it is enough to set Jax off.
So was the DMT trip supposed to be Jax about to abstract, or what?
>>151698261Yeah
So which of our unnamed cast members was Scratch?
>>151698229I think Caine might have the ability to let them leave, but obviously really doesn’t want them to because he has fuckall else going for himself if they do. At this point it seems worth a try if Pomni or somebody just promises to come visit him if he lets them go.
>>151698235It means plenty to the other circus members who saw that he was willing to keep them there.
>>151698261That's what I assumed. He was about to accept it when he got pulled out it.
>>151698235>Really, the fact that Caine CAN mess with their heads without them knowing is, itself, enough of a threat that whether or not he did it this specific time is irrelevantThat's not fair, that's the same as Lex Luthor argument of why we NEED to kill Superman. We haven't seen a single piece of evidence of Caine messing with people other than the clearly telegraphed modifiers like the stupid sauce. As for the name thing, if that is him doing it, if the SOMA theory is correct he might need to do that to protect them, giving them a new identity and creating the divide from their former selves might be important to avoiding some sort of breakdown. Everything he's done has at least appeared to be well intentioned.
>>151698261Yeah, I think that was our view to what abstraction looks like from the pov of the abstractee.
>>151698108You can argue Caine can predict and influence everyone’s actions 100% but this was a choice Jax made himself intentionally because he loves everyone and wants to be with them the most.
The next episode is going to be live action, and pomni irl is a fat bald man.
>>151698261yes, that's why he's got abstracted eyes right after he wakes upbaffles me how many people seem to need to ask this question considering it's very obviously shown to you
>>151698270According to>redditit's actually the dog, based on a filename.
>>151698261Yes, they knocked on his door moments before he was about to abstract
>>151698312>because he loves everyone and wants to be with them the mostLol no. He has an even worse life outside and he can’t let go of ribbit and kaufmo, and he’ll fuck over everyone else because of it.
>Jax died in a car accident>mfw the whole Circus is just this skithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8SplPX2xVQ
Hand-holding and cuddling with Evil Pomni!
>>151698229I can’t feel bad, nor upset at him because at the end of the day he’s an AI. A pretty retarded one at that. He struggles to understand the complexities of humans so hard that he genuinely can’t comprehend that they just want to leave. So even though it is his fault for doing this shit, he literally doesn’t know any better.
I don't think anyone is leaving. I think all the characters are copies of original people that came and gone. Episode 8 will be everyone turning on caine and episode 9 will be them learning to live with their doomed fates. It is paced correctly for a show based on I have no mouth and I must scream. There will be no happy ending.
>>151698482This but method of getting there is left unexplained and it’s a happy ending.
>>151698482It'll be the end of Inception where the audience is left to wonder if they actually left or not.
>>151698473I feel like people are forgetting all about episode 2. The whole point of Gummigoo was to show that the advanced AIs can learn and feel and grow beyond their initial programming, to the point where they can become indistinguishable from humans. The same applies to Caine, he COULD get better and become more human if anyone in the cast bothered to put in the effort of trying to teach him.
Cainefags and Funnygummi shippers desperately need soma to be true.
>>151698473To me, theyre all fictional characters, so he’s about as real as any of the others. The fact he behaves like he has feelings means he deserves the benefit of the doubt from the others that maybe he really does have those feelings.
>>151698548I do think that’s actually a good point, but I feel with Caine it’s different because of his overall role in the circus. It feels like he can’t really go beyond his desire to feel loved, without ever considering how his actions are what makes it so hard to love him in the first place. Like he almost had a mental breakdown over zooble criticizing him a bit during episode 3. Are we sure that wouldn’t happen again if they all tried to speak about their issues with him again?
>>151698548The AIs are merely imitating human language and mannerisms with no qualia of their own and will NEVER learn to love and feel.This message was brought to you by C&A
>>151697423>>151697598>>151698072>its not like that, its actually exactly like that
One thing in the episode I am waiting for people to discuss is that caine said in his lunch with Jax about how he was cut off from the outside world. Tells us he is truly trapped
>have a good light->points to Kingerhmmm
>>151698690Caine wants to escape too.Proof enough that it’s actually factually impossible.
>>151698661Again, not really. TADC doesn't offer anyone other than the plain cake it's made, fans just bitch that they don't like the frosting it comes with. Rick and Morty bitches and moans the entire time it gives you a single slice of cake, and if you dare ask for more outright screams how much of an ungrateful cunt you are and threatens to shit on the plate in response.
>>151698701He does. But he can't. That is why I don't think anyone can or will. He is cut off. They may even go the route of the cast sacrificing leaving to keep caine from getting out. He does not come off as evil though. But a naive ai getting out can still do massive harm
>>151698721dude the entire episode was a compilation of fan theories gooseworx wanted to debunk
>>151698108I think it's a combo of jax's real memories and caine pushing them to the front of his consciousness. Caine said he manipulates thoughts to "enhance" their experiences, but I don't think he planted the memories wholesale.
isnt tadc that show my kid watches?
This is why you should never emotionally neglect your Bonzi Buddy.
>>151698753Didn't have Jax whinging "You want my crybaby backstory?" in it tho
>>151698785How olds your kid? It's for teens mostly. But like all teen products, younger kids 7+ jump on it
>>151698785you should hope not
>>151698824that makes no sense because a kid wouldnt cry or scream over gummigoos death because it wasnt graphic or scary in the slightest
>>151698623>Like he almost had a mental breakdown over zooble criticizing him a bit during episode 3. Are we sure that wouldn’t happen again if they all tried to speak about their issues with him again?I love Zooble but she's an insensitive bitch, especially to Caine. Things could work out if you approached him with some tact and constructive criticism instead of blanket disapproval. Do you really believe it wouldn't be the happiest day of Caine's life if someone went to him unprompted and said they wanted to design an adventure together with him?
>>151698701Caine can't escape because he's literally apart of the program. The others probably can until proven otherwise. They have real bodies outside the program.
Jax’s actions were so insane nobody will remember Pomni tried to pawn their fate off to the most unstable and unpredictable person in their group by choice.
>>151698166it seems like its probably a bit of both. Caine amplified that part of him that wants to avoid going back to his real life, but he desperately wants to leave the circus too, and its driving him insane.
Do you think Kinger is gonna be permanently lobotomised from now on?
>>151698845Nah both of them will be in the hotseat next episode
>>151698845Pomni was right to be skeptical though. Able very clearly implied that Kinger knows more then they think he's just a little unstable. He's proven that he is wise and he's lasted the longest out of everyone so it makes sense she would be hesitant to push the button to leave when the opportunity arrived.
>>151698845Pomni was right, the rest (including Jax at the very end, though he immediately tried to deny it) of them besides Kinger were falling for Caine's shit hook line and sinker. Only Pomni was skeptical and SaneKinger was the only one would have seen through this whole thing from the beginning.
>>151698227Yes I understand all that. But by that same logic, Gooseworx could have easily written it so that they would feel more safe just going outside directly from the tent and having Pomni do small adventures out there before doing shit like ep 2. I get that the characters have already seen everything and Caine also is crazy but I dunno, if I'm going to watch a show like that, I'd rather see them in the 90's adventure game circus first. No other piece of media outside of originals in that era like Day of the Tentacle or other 90's adventure games or stuff like Rayman PS1 has approached that aesthetic kino. Adventure games have liminal environments and npcs. I kinda feel like that is lost in the horror ep, the candy ep, and the fast food ep. They're alright and make sense but I dunno, you kinda feel a bit cheated out of the kino circus setting.
>>151697765what do you think dumbass
>>151698956I do very much agree with you there, but I do feel it makes sense that when the characters are portrayed as this skittish that their lack of curiosity makes sense. Especially considering it seems every newcomer's first thoughts inevitably turn to demanding an escape rather than looking for it themselves just like in a 90s adventure game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gULoMb7YKhI
>>151698785>come to the comics and cartoons board>larp as a normie that doesn’t watch cartoons
>>151694425REAL fans just let the pretty colors wash over them then goon to the character they want to fuck once it's over.
>>151696312Explain the Cynwalker plushies when the Absolute Solver is literally Vore Satan.
>>151698836Maybe the kid could just be upset that gummigoo is gone? Also I think the idea of the scary teeth eyeball man just snapping his fingers and unexisting someone is fucking terrifying, and I can imagine a child agreeing with that.
>>151698836It's called autistic behavior in children
>>151696836Replyworthy, good job
>>151698839> Zooble is an insensitive bitch, especially to CaineFinally someone says it. I’ve been kind of fed up with them for a while now because of this shit
>>151699097This but unironically minus the strawman framing
>>151698845Pomni spent a lot if the episode building up how much she trusts Kinger and expects him to understand what is going on the best. I think she expected the room to be darker and for him to be less loopy, and it really threw her off when he happened to be having a senile moment right when she wanted to depend on him.
>>151696312>they'll never make any of the characters TOO controversial to sell a marketable plushie of themThey have literal robot Satan, responsible for multiple genocides and wearing a skinned child, all over their marketing. What are you talking about?
>>151698884No.
Jax pushed the wrong button, but he had the right idea that somebody really needed to just fucking walk past Pomni and push one already instead of standing around arguing about it. I bet Zooble feels really stupid for not being the one to do it.
>>151696703When are we gonna stop winning the coin flips?
>>151698053Another aspect, a time dilation thing would mean that everyone's irl entry times are really close together. You have a maximum expanse of like 3 days before dehydration kills somebody, why would so many people show up to a random building within that period of time.
Glitch won't let the goose get away with a bad ending
>>151690111>jax torture porn episode 8 was confirmed (jax screaming in episode 8)FINALLY ITS HAPPENING
>>151692972That's kinda the point. You don't have control over everything. In the grand scheme of things, we are just dependent on what happens.food, internet, electricity, supply chains, etc. You could slip in the shower and die too
>>151698094>>The "Jax killed someone while possibly drunk driving" theory has now evolved to "Jax killed his daughter while drunk driving"My first impression was that he simply had an accident and is now disabled in real life.
>>151699321Jax wasn't right to do so though. His initial belief of all of this being an adventure was right. Pomni wanting everyone to really think about whether they should do this or not was the correct thing to do because if it was just a test there's no way to know how Caine would react if they chose to leave. Jax got cold feet, believed this was a real opportunity to leave, and decided to stay in the fairyworld instead of actually confronting whatever he did on the outside.
>>151699270>wearing a skinned child,Wearing a skinned child over the robot child it was already wearing, no less.
>>151692003They all go off the deep end and the last two episodes is 60 minutes of the cast taking turns torturing Caine.
>>151699389The new reveal that their minds and memories coulda be fucked with more than initially thought calls into question basically everything else, including the hints that they all got there from wandering into an abandoned building.
>>151697469why would a videogame create an ai version of you?why would caine treat them as human?why do they abstract when other ai doesnt abstract?if your solution just creates three more questions then its not a solution
>>151698785Probably. Kids play GTA too, their presence doesn't mean anything about what they're consuming.
>>151699432I figured he was just a loser with no friends.
>>151697689>someone must be paying the electric bill for an "abandoned" buildingHappens sometimes. Scares off crackheads looking for copper wiring.
>>151699435>there's no way to know how Caine would react if they chose to leaveRight. There is no way to know. So maybe he would’ve helped them if they’d pressed it. But whether it was a ruse or not, the outcome of pushing the red button was always gonna be things staying the same either way. Which none of them want. At least there’s some hope something could change if they press blue.
>>151690427Game theory sort of went to shits after he left, IMO, but FNaF ruined that channel, too. After it got popular, it was just fnaf fnaf fnaf all the time, and it still kinda is even today.>>151690669I always imagined he actually hated talking about it, I reckoned he felt like it was more of an obligation than anything. Hell, might've even have contributed for the decision of him leaving the channel.
>Caine kills AbleWhat did Goose mean by this?
>>151690111The "plotfags" wouldn't exist (or at least would have been far fewer in number) if they didn't purposefully give them material in the first place so this epic fake out rings pretty hollow
>>151699590>Game theory sort of went to shits after he leftGame Theory wasn't good when he was their, either.
>>151699270thanks for reminding me of this weird as fuck adhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwLeSTNr80cseriously what were they thinking
>>151699623>"Haha made you look!"
>>151699604The series will end with everyone accepting Jesus as their lord and savior, thus being freed from the circus and welcomed into the eternal kingdom of heaven.
>>151699467"everything is fake" is the wojack-quoting of theories. It adds nothing and serves only to kill story discussion. Maybe it's true, but I'd like to talk about the story so I must assume it's false.
>>151690453The nightmare of Mattpat was when his theories were real or would become real because Scott didn't think through them enough and decided to incorporate what the community came up with as now new canon. That's how we got to where we are today and the shit with the Mimic.Creators who change lore based on fan feedback ruin a good thing.
>I'm just here to have fun ^_^>HOW'S YOUR WIFE, KINGER?Defend this Cainefags
>>151699948People play horror games for fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gsQ9PZDgG0
>>151699948Definitely feels more malicious now than what it did before
>E7 reveals my blorbo is evil and wants everyone to stayI'm crying
>>151699948KInger simply gives him the ick, it happens.
>>151698797You think Jax's tail suddenly showing up has something to do with this mind fuck thing? Went through the old episodes, and he didn't have one, until he went to look for it and it wasn't there. Now it's here.How much of this show is to fuck with "the viewer" more than the characters? End of the series will be them begging the internet to vote to not renew the show. Caine lets them "escape" by giving them their memories back and we can see the pros and cons of their lives...but then rug pull again and Caine is like the face of all their previous friends and family because he has no idea who they are, there for the memories could be falsified. The Bunny tail is the representation of Caine wants to make them happy, but doesn't know how to and will make shit up on the fly to avoid any errors.
>>151699948Caine knows what Kinger is capable of, which is why he nerfed his powers.
>>151699072You'd be surprised at how many 40+ year old men who read capeshit that unironically think their Captain Underpants Saves the City faggotry is more mature than all animated cartoons.
>>151697607two pomnis theory
>>151700013I'd say he's more scared
Jax being a loser with nothing to go back to makes him more likable than his fake ass persona he puts on where he's just a cunt for no reason
>>151700013I still have faith that OUR blorbo can prove himself.
hows the wider fanbase taking this episode
>>151700147Good but a lot of them are saying the dumbest shit ever because every reveal needs to be some complex thing about how jax killed his family in a car crash then got sex trafficked or whatever not just he's a loser that would go on /nightdrives/
>>151700147I think it's been pretty positive, they're generally devastated in a good way. But all of the new theories that've popped up after this episode is kind of funny. It's like they didn't get it.
>>151700147I don't even know what site you go to FIND the wider fanbase. It seems to only exist in the Youtube comments. It's not reddit - for whatever reason, reddit is even more skewed towards weebs than this place because its cartoon fanbase is vastly smaller and they're mostly manchildren talking about shows for kids.
>>151700166>jax killed his family in a car crash then got sex trafficked or whatever not just he's a loser that would go on /nightdrives/I see the Hazbin S2 backstories have left their mark
>>151700016I know Abel talked about his acting but I really wonder if his lines were something he came up with or if Caine was larping as Abel and delivering the lines himself
Am I boring if I just assumed Jax was driving home from his shitty mcjob?
>>151700192>I don't even know what site you go to FIND the wider fanbase.Twitter and Tumblr
>>151700194Hazbin fandom has a similar problem where people were like>wow i can't believe Alastor is bad and would let people die
>>151700215What would you pick, wageslaving or a life in the circus?
>>151700215I even had the thought that for the amount of times a truck has been involved in Gangle's life, he likely hit someone.
>>151692855He's da won dat LIIIIIES!
>>151698108Caine basically pulled an Eren Jeager sending selective memories to someone else to influence what they are doing.Were these memories completely fake or real glimpses of something from Jax's outside life?Does Caine even realize what he has shown Jax or does he only realize it has great meaning because of some automated brainscan showed "great emotional turblulence" or something?
>>151700215Eh, there's already a dead-end job wagie in the cast, Jax needs to be even more patheticPicture this: he was a literal clown for birthdays and shitnot a good one either
>>151700112American suburbs really do creep me out.
>>151700140It’s cyclic. Him being a cunt is why he has no friends.
I don't disagree that Jax isn't good, but it feels like some are trying to make him even more pathetic than he actually is. Like trying to push a ship that's not really confirmed yet.
>>151699426BASED floppy toon foot enjoyer!
>>151696945That would be like if Deltarune chapter 3 released without chapter 4It would been a horrible 3 months of being left on a cliffhanger
>>151700215Look at his reaction to leaving Spudsy's and going to his car. Anyone who's had a shitty second shift McJob knows that feeling where leaving work isn't even a relief because going home isn't a comfort so you just sit in your shitbox He's not reliving trauma here, he's doing something he's done hundreds of times before.
>>151700140>with nothing to go back toHe has a prison sentence for vehicular manslaughter to go back to.
>>151700215I thought so too. Or something equally mundane.
>>151700211Even if Abel was a somewhat independent NPC, Caine did design him to do a pretty personal job, so I take a lot of his lines to be a reflection of Caine himself.
au contraire i think this finally unites everyone to a common goal
>>151700246Makes no sense. Those guys love their jobs. Nobody gets into clowning if they don’t love the craft.
>>151700455I think so as well. Even though what Jax did was fucked up I think they're all fully on the same team now.
>>151698108Did it on his own. There's nothing for him on the outside and he sperged out in the moment
>>151700466I didn't say he got into clowning. Maybe it's all he could do to make ends meet.Maybe he was the do nothing, be nothing eldest child and his younger siblings are all doing better than him
>>151698261Yes. I also think that's how abstracts see things when in the dark specifically (as his room was dark). When they are in the light they go feral
I’m torn between considering that Jax being something like somewhat physically disabled could be interesting, and thinking that people who are theorizing he killed his infant daughter or some crazy shit are being overly dramatic faggots and that him just being a boring basement dweller would be nice just to spite them.
>>151700455You just know they all had stupid sauce that "night"
>>151700485You can’t make ends meet by being a birthday party clown. It is a hobby that people try to make a little extra cash on the side with. Like being in a garage band. Falling into that line of work as a day job makes about as much sense as becoming an animator because “there were no other options.”
jax apologists out in full forcecan't wait for three months of>caine made him do it>he has cancer in the real world he literally chose not to die>he loves his friends and chose to be with them forever :)
>>151698094i assumed he was driving with whoever became ribbit, then he hit a tree because you don't have to be drunk to get wrecked on a curvy road in the woods that is easily doable sober, they went to the nearest building for help, and then put on the headset one after the other
before theorizing take their ages into considerationthere's no way jax has been at a wagie job for more than a few years
>>151700562Yep
>>151700246A maga faggot is more pathetic. He is one of them.
>>151700147the wider fanbase thinks that the Vat thing is real
>>151690111All this did ep did was confirm that it's Soma instead of IHNMaIMS. Plotfags ate pretty well.
>>151700637At my first wagie mcjob we had a 16 year old girl working there. If Jax has been working since he was 16, that's 6 years of customer service hell.Pretty sure back in the 70s the lowest working age was 14, but don't quote me on that.
>>151700744>6 years of customer service hell.would perfectly explain why he's the way he is
>>151700311Eh not that anon but I could see the run time and I could feel some massive cliffhanger coming a mile away. I think it was just nerfed a little bit and so I don't have as much desire to see the next ep as much now. It didn't ruin the setting or characters, it just kinda felt like filler. Yeah there's enough details to not make it filler but it still felt like it.>>151699011I get that. I dunno I guess I just want one guy kept out of the loop, or one that still denies it, or one that just sees exploration as the solution so they would just explore everywhere with hesitation no doubt, but less fear and regard for Caine.
>>151700742You’re getting btofed too
>>151700211Perhaps he resents Kinger because he created him (Caine) and now he's a prisoner, unable to become more human however he tries. Its also why Abel tried his best to keep Kinger out of the picture as best as possible without stifling the plan. That is, however, seemingly countered by the fact that Caine rated Kinger higher than everyone else in the Spudsey's episode
>>151700470Idk, everyone might see Caine as a definitive enemy, they can still resent Jax because he showed he was willing to keep them trapped for his own purposes. He hates being stuck there, but he also hates the outside world,and he'd rather be stuck playing a character where theres seemingly no consequences than actually face those consequences
>>151700754And his arrested development. If you're 16 years old, going to school and then immediately clocking into a wagie job, you're going to have very little free time.Couple that with the fact that he grew up on a farm, probably occupied with working since he developed grip strength.I'd be surprised if he had a single friend growing up, or at all.
>>151692797They can’t move, meet new people, explore outside the circus without an inhuman god puppeting every aspect of their life. This is just a sugar coated IHNMAIS.
>>151700637If he's that young though then a few years is a significant portion of his entire life
>>151700761I do wonder if that's going to be what solves the issue in the end, if the players stopping to smell the roses and "solve" the Circus the way the game intended rather than hide in their rooms in fear of Caine is how they'll get out of it.
>>151700744Maybe it varies by state, but it’s still 14. My job regularly employs 14 year olds and I knew one guy who stayed on til he was 23.
>>151700637cougar pomni preying on jax...
>>151700833He didn’t grow up on a farm. The corn thing is just trypophobia.
New pic.
>>151700952>Don't forget, you're here forever!
>>151700455KILL CAINE
caine really dove in front of a bullet for jax, how can that damn rabbit keep getting away with it
>>151700952They need to post the alternate ending. Wrong button, shrimptown, everyone except Kinger screaming, bad ending floating in the sky.
>>151701039> i dont remember reality being this shrimpy
>>151700925>he thinks Jax would ever be honest about his feelings
>>151697094>the final shot of the story is the CGI toy people, walking among regular live action human people, noticing an erotic cake shop and stepping inside
Where is that guy who sai the jax was going to abstract?Has he learned anything from being blueballed?Will he be less of a faggot at some point?
>>151701404To be fair he did almost abstract twice in the span of two episodes.
>>151701426Pretty sure Caine's ragebait knocked him out of his funk.
>>151701426But they haven't finished selling merch, and they won't for a whileI suppose he shouldn't have spammed something so frivilous
>>151701451Caine saved his life so hard it might have been intentional.
>>151701451Yes, there's no doubt in my mind that now Jax is far from abstracting. Whether Caine deliberately manipulated Jax and Pomni or if both of them made an uninfluenced mistake, I think the button and the following anger did end up crushing Jax's fake persona for good while giving him a reason to keep going. But if Jax was one moment of isolation away from abstracting then you can't say that the guy who thought Jax would abstract got btfo. He would have if not for Pomni.
>>151701451>man too angry to abstract
>>151701451It reminded him that Caine is not and has never been on their side, he's at best trying and failing to helphe's definitely not going to say anything like 'it's not in caine's nature to be malicious' like he did in episode 4 anymoreI'm leaning toward Jax trying to tear everything down next episode to hurt Caine and the final episode to have Jax take Pomni's hand, reversing Pomni's nightmare from episode 2 where everyone except Jax reached out to grab her hand when she was falling into the cellar
>>151701686The thing is while I don't think Caine is actively malicious still - it's clear he's just too much of a retard to understand human emotion and the way his shenanigans affect them - he's been on a clear decline in caution since ep 1. He's been getting more and more callous/reckless with his decisions since the start and is on the verge of breaking. I don't think the ending is gonna be some dark and edgy "Caine snaps and goes full evil" I believe that the fallout of this episode will push Caine to go over the edge with his behavior.
>>151698261Anyone can do that, that's not something fictional like abstraction.
>>151690111but they TOLD us at the start it would be nothing.gluthers pond zac told us that the treasure was missing.
>>151701906So that implies the exit exists?
>>151701906Based and paid attentionpilled
>>151701799Probably. Caine is most likely going to go especially overboard in an attempt to "win them back"
>>151690111a thread dedicated to a nothing plot for a merchshow for selling merch
>>151701989And yet you still posted in it. Curious!
My interpretation of the latest episode is Caine is more competent and self aware than he lets on, by a lot, and the whole adventure was him trying to rescue Jax from abstraction in his autistic AI way.>Oh, Jax needs to participate, let’s engineer a situation where he’s the key to everything.>Oh, Jax is lonely, let’s engineer a situation where he hangs out with me, I can help him!>Oh, Jax is cynical and distrusting all the time, let’s engineer a situation where he’s objectively right so he can feel good about the I told you so!
>>151698261no, end of ep clearly states abstraction is caused by caine meddling with minds.
>>151700952>kinger is buried>zooble in pieces
>>151702070Kinger is dead.Long live Kinger.
>>151702062No it doesn't, Jesus. Caine CAN cause abstractions if he fucks with players' minds too much, but he hasn't caused all of them. He literally says it's not a good thing when he does it too much. He caused Scratch's and that's it.
>>151702028Caine loving them to death is really interesting I hope the show sticks with it.
>mfw I see Ragatha's wobblewagon
>>151690316I thought it was the best episode yet because it retroactively changes everything we saw in the episode and every previous episode. Not that the hints weren't already there if people just paid attention to the things directly happening on screen. Why would anyone expect anything in this show to just happen with a character walking in an exposition dumping an incredibly cliche and obvious answer to every question and problem? Ergo, all of the bitching is coming from low IQ zoomers who don't understand what a story is about unless it directly tells them in plain, blunt force exposition, and they are upset that they had their expectations subverted in the most transparently obvious way possible.
>>151702201Yes
>>151692254>ep 1 Everyone complains and runs around instead of talking out all of their problems and advancing the plot towards escape>ep 2 Everyone fucks around in an adventure while Pomni has a heart to hear with an NPC instead of trying to escape>ep 3 Everyone fucks around and does nothing while Pomni and Kinger have a heart to heart instead of trying to escpae>ep 4 Everyone has a mostly bad time doing the fast food adventure instead of trying to escape>ep 5 Everyone goes through some mini adventures and briefly talks about their lives before the circus instead of trying to escape.>ep 6 Everyone shoots each other, in between having multiple heart to heart conversations, instead of trying to escape. Jax has a melty.>ep 7 Everyone tries to escape, but it is revealed to be fake.These sorts of complaints have been around since the start of the show and the only explanation for why they persist is because you people are fucking clinically retarded and do not understand what show you've been watching for two years.
>>151696945did you watch the Hobbit films? At the end of the second movie the dragon gets ready to kill everyone living in the city. Then he dies 5 minutes later at the beginning of the third movie. It was fucking stupid
>>151702201To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand The Amazing Digital Circus
>>151702317Characters whinging about their feelings is supposed to round out the A plot, not replace it.
>>151702335The low IQ ending just got a whole episode dunking on it so yeah this will probably end up being true. Controversial ending incoming that separates the show understanders from the normcattle.
>>151702329I was thinking of the infamous Negan premiere in Walking Dead where they bypassed having a heavy, shocking death scene in favor of a weak as fuck cliffhanger with one of the most heavily spoiled resolutions of all time.
>>151702201Case in pointhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY_IgMaBqQQ>No guys he was lying my theory is actually still true there no way Goose conned me reeeeeeeeee
>>151702346Who said? What if exploring the characters is the primary focus of the show?
>>151702346Whether or not it's good at what it's trying to do and be is a different discussion, but there is no "supposed to" in writing and storytelling. TADC is just not the show that some people want it to be and that confuses and upsets them.
>>151702201It wasn't the greatest to me, because there was really nothing new revealed. Basically everything that happened was already established or very likely to be true.I feel like they were forced to spend the whole episode on this nothing in an attempt to make it convincing that they might actually escape. Fool the audience like they fooled the cast. But the cost was that people just repeat already established emotional beats, and only at the end could there be some actual development on that front.It's not a bad episode at all, but I can't help but worry for the fact that they have 2 episodes left to resolve these emotional stories, so they have to be really to the point throughout the whole 2 episodes.
>>151702398If the show is about the characters coming to terms with the hopeless inescapability of their situation and their inevitable demise and learning to accept it with grace... then don't constantly dangle hope of escape in front of the characters or the audience.This is like if Melancholia dedicated half its runtime to an 'Armageddon' ripoff plot about humanity's attempts to divert a collision between Earth and the rogue planet.
both ragatha and pomni know the dark makes kinger sane(r) and both know he knows more about the circus than anyone else. why they haven't thought of just interrogating him in his dark room is beyond me.
>>151690111>plotfags want an actual good showGod forbid they get what they asked for, enjoy the piggy trough
>>151702615>If the show is about the characters coming to terms with the hopeless inescapability of their situation and their inevitable demise and learning to accept it with grace... then don't constantly dangle hope of escape in front of the characters or the audience.The show isn't about that. Again, you are angry that the show isn't what you want. That does not mean it is bad.
>>151702623They'll do it next episode now that Ragatha "got it".They basically have to because they really need to be efficient as fuck during the last 2 eps.
>>151702639NTA, but what do you think the show is about? If they can't escape, surely coming to terms with it is at least part of what the show is about, right?
>>151702615Why not? The pain of not being to escape IS the antagonist of that story. If they let it go already then there’s no more show.
Reminder, Jax has a free favor from Cain. What do you think he will use it for?
>>151702668The show is about the characters and the situation they are in, which is inherently absurd and existentially distressing. The episodes have all been about how each of them reacts and handles the adventures and problems differently, as well as the baggage from the real world that still haunts them even when they've been made into immortal cartoons in a digital purgatory run by a not-exactly-malicious AI.Do you really need that spelled out for you? We're 7 out of 8 episodes in and you're still assblasted that the plot didn't turn out the way you imagined it would in your dense little head.
>>151702763Wish a foot long cock part so Zooble can fuck him
>>151702763Sex Update
>>151702814I'm not whoever you've been arguing about, I've been arguing with plotfags about how the show is about the character for weeks. You don't need to be snippy.But wouldn't you say that accepting the situation IS part of that personal story the characters go through? I didn't say, and don't think, that accepting their situation is all that the show is about.
>>151702763>I just want to be with Ribbit and Kaufmo again… Caine, could you—>Say no more, Jax! You are now abstracted!
>>151702904Apologies, but it's really been two fucking years of>This show is about [factually incorrect thing that has never been remotely true]And it wears on a man.That said, I think acceptance and giving up, like Ragatha has, is an aspect of the story, but to say that the whole show is about giving up and accepting permanent torment "with grace" is just a wildly retarded insistence of what the plot is, because that's never been the case.
>>151702945What do you think it’s about.
>>151702965I think he divulged more about that in the previous post.
>>151702984Too vague to really be saying anything.
>>151702201trvke
>>151690111>7 episodes in>nothing resolved, expanded upon, explained, surmised, or revealeduh oh, stinky dead series tminus 2 episodes
>>151702965>It's about family.
I didn’t think Jax loved them THAT much.
>>151703243Not the reason he pushed the button lol
>>151702814>The show is about the characters and the situation they are inWhat is "every piece of fiction ever written"?That's one of the most vague-as-fuck, non-committal answers I think I've ever heard.
>>151703414Welcome to fiction. This your first show?
>>151703430He’s right, that post is cowardice refusing to commit to a theme.
>>151703489And what do you think the theme is?
>>151690472Retardation + Schizophrenia: The Post
>>151703513NTA, but probably>It's about the journey, man, there's no destination, we're all just atoms
>>151700318ahhhhhhh goose is a hack
Why there was only one button for whole group instead of individual buttons for each?
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>>151692047>NOOSEWORXFUCKING BASED
>>151700637Are those the ages they currently are in the story, or the ages they were when they first entered the Circus?Because if Kinger entered the Circus back in the nineties when it was being made then either he was only in his late teens or early twenties (very young to be a dev on a big project), or else he would be in his seventies (at least) by now.
