If Cain really wants them to stay voluntarily, he should just give them sex update.
Just trick Cain into sex like people do with Character AI
Finally a TADC thread
caine should make the cast fat haha
Wasn't it a massive nothingburger?Just because Caine used the pod idea for his story doesn't mean it can't be part of the truth or somethingWhen has Caine explicitely messed with people's mind besides the names and Jax becoming vegan which I forgot until this ep?People will have one more reason to hate Jax, what a huge changeThe only big thing is Kinger seemingly being able to remember more things, but that prpbably only was Caine slipping in panic
>>151693849But think of the advertisers
one day Ciane will enable the Sex Update and orgies will be casually mentioned off-screen and it will have no impact whatsoever on the story
>>151695289Yes and no. They had a big fakeout about escaping from the circus. However, it's implied that Caine couldn't help but leak a few extremely telling personal details about himself and the circus while doing it. What's more, we learned the name of the first character to abstract and the sheer psychological impact of what Caine did to the cast is obviously going to fire them up.Next episode is the penultimate one.
can't believe able already got his own game
>OneyNG 3 minutes inWhy the fuck is nobody cancelling these people?
>>151695289>When has Caine explicitely messed with people's mindI think it's also implied that Caine caused Kinger's memory loss
Okay I absolutely have no ability to distinguish between Oney and Pebbles. Why the fuck can't we just treat them like the same person anyway, they're both extremely unpleasant to me and they normalized Shadman.
Yesterday's episode has really stuck in my headI feel writer's envy
>>151693849But that will give people the wrong message that sex and hedonism is a tool used to keep the masses docile and compliant for the forces that seek to destroy them.
Can someone please disprove this? It's ruining the show for me.
>>151696421Bro #1 whose opinion am I even looking at #2 how do you disprove something that’s an opinion
>>151696386>Caine deliberately makes it so he gets to date the bunny
>>1516964401: Some guy on SomethingAwful.2: Because I have no ability to think for myself and I can't enjoy anything anymore. I once read some autist criticize Toradora for forcing Ryuuji and Taiga together and pushing the moral that male-female relationships can only ever be romances, and now I can't watch that show without being reminded of that observation.
>>151696421I feel like the acting is amateur and I don't really care.
>>151696421That's correct. Every line is followed up with another line that is like a separate take with completely different attitude and meaning.
>>151696445Man after my own heart
>>151696421None of the VA are in the same room
I know everybody's already talked about Jax being a sissy and having a pretty pink princess room, but I just noticed that he also has color coded chairs that Kaufmo and Ribbit would sit in while they had tea parties together or some shit.
>>151693849>Only just realized that Kinger's the one who laughed at the Chinese Room gag because, even subconsciously, he's the only one who'd even get it with seven yeas of CS work under his beltI'm stupid
I’m convinced everyone besides pomni and ciane will either abstract or leave and the last scene will be this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FY0Pt9fyxY
>>151696809I feel like Caine's character changed a lot
>>151696421>anons discover intentionally naturalistic sounding voice acting that isn't over the top and cartoonish for the first timethat's literally the whole point, it's meant to sound like that.>>151696470that's really immature and teenagerish anon, please tell me you're not a full grown adult and still this impressionable/insecure about things you like
>>151696626Just wanted to call out the dude who called me a Jew for asserting Christ's divinity, is a special retardI swear this place produced more NPCs than Caine
>>151693849me when they had Pomni's ass wiggle during the walk scene
>>151696470>the moral that male-female relationships can only ever be romancesThis is true though, at least if you're talking about single men and women the same age.
>>151696924>please tell me you're not a full grown adult and still this impressionable/insecure about things you likeHow am I supposed to respond to this without getting insulted?
I want this Ragatha
>>151696346you don't like oney anon? anyways I see people complaining about oney all the time but it never sticks outside of smaller circles because oney and friends are that likeable, you kinda just have to wait for the eventual fatigue
So it's pretty much confirmed the end games are gonna be:Implied GanglexZoobleImplied JaxxRibbitImplied KingerxQueenieImplied PomnixGummygooAnd Ragatha just being friends with everyone?
>>151693849The number one reason he won't give the sex update is because the very moment he does and everyone starts fucking each other and realizes no one is gonna include him, he is gonna no likey it and put it back on the shelf the same way he did the suggestion box
>>151697162I want people to suffer consequences for their actions.
The reason abstraction is all related to Le Trauma is because trauma is hardstuck memories. Same with fetishes and drugsThat is why the circus is PG friendlyRibbit was trying to get Jax to Abstract.Abstraction IS the exit.
>>151697177I don't understand endgame posting in non-romance seriesThe ships are whatever you want them to be. Have some imagination
Remember that the hottest smut is the ones with no mating genitals.
>>151697177Gummigoo is nothing more than data, anon. You're more likely for Pomni to marry Kinger before Gummigoo.
>>151693849This could've been an episode to explore the room of the other players who have abstracted beforeThis could've been an episode where more of the white void is explainedThis could've been an episode where they talk about previous abstracted playersThis could've been an episode about Kingler's backgroundThis could've been an episode where Jax is confronted about his 'break-me-already' issuesThis could've been an episode about Gangle being violently raped in front of everybody by huge Gloink cocks and left broken in the cold floor like the worthless meek slut she is.
>>151697338This could've been an episode about Gandalf the GreyThis could've been an episode about Gandalf the WhiteThis could've been an episode about Monty Python and the Holy Grail's Black Kngiht
>>151697346With Benito Mussolini, and the Blue Meanie?
>>151697369
>>151697310They are all data and Caine can turn them gay whenever he wants as much as he can delete Gummygoo. Your retarded exuses make no sense. Is like saying Jake Sully can't marry Neytiti because he isn't an actual alien like they are
>>151697401If you like Gummigoo so much why don't YOU fuck him.
>>151697415Because I'm not going to cuck Pomni
>>151697431She won't care. She got five friends to fuck.
Why does Caine not delete the abstracted? Not saying he should, but what is stopping him?
>>151697456If you're stuck with 5 random sweaty anons and 1 hot fictional Lola Bunny then you are not going to "not care" and fuck the anons
>>151697466He can't harm his yummy wummy human guestarinoes!
>>151697488If I'm stuck with em long enough I'm probably gonna fuck em all
>>151697338>This could've been an episode about Gangle being violently raped in front of everybody by huge Gloink cocks and left broken in the cold floor like the worthless meek slut she is.
>>151697495>yummyCAINE NO
>>151697604It's only a matter of time before we see jax getting vored
It is actually a little heartbreaking to me how irrelevant Ragatha seems to be.
>>151697645Everyone was irrelevant this episode. Ragatha at least helped saved Jax from abstraction.
I feel like not a big enough deal is being made of the fact abstraction is a pleasant experience. You think Caine deliberately abstracts people once they fucking lose it because it's the only way to keep them happy at that point? His whole purpose is to please people, after all.
>>151696485>gooseworx popularityNigger, nobody knew who gooseworx was before TADC.This is just a pure contrarian take.
>>151697761Pomni was the one who knocked, anon.
Next episode is gonna be actual exposition. Kinger will remember stuff because the administrator key is something he probably remembers from his first days when he still had power over the Circus. When he got the key he probably wanted to ask Pomni "Where did you find it?" which imply Kinger only need to get to that sub universe behind the wall to mess with Caine and create a backup reboot/reset to make himself into main admin again. Dl;drKinger is the GOAT and will rescue the remaining characters
>>151697863Caine is pumping endorphins directly into Jax's brain to stop his panic attacks. However if he kept pumping artificial stimulants into him then Jax would have abstracted,
>>151697898If that happen, all the 20+ tumblr girls will start to lust over 45 year old uncs instead of pussy twinks. Just like Ragatha and Pomni pretty much salivated over Kinger for entire episode. Only Zooble gave a shit about Jax.
>>151696421>>151696485Autism is amazing
>>151697645Why are you singling out just Ragatha?Everyone besides Jax was irrelevant in this episode.
*is forgotten*
>>151697881Lmao neither one of them gets more credit than the other they were both there
>>151697948Well I say Abel knocked.
What a cute little guy
>>151697389lmao
Pawbert of TADC
>>151697942SOMA ending = Canon FunnyGummyLet's just hope they aren't getting to the real world
>>151693849Happy 1-year anniversary to episode 4
>>151698022Anon, stop, you're only going to hurt yourself.
I hope nothing bad happens to Ragatha
>>151698013I wonder if there actually was one but Caine found out and took him over, replacing his actual attempt to free them with an adventure to get their minds off ever having a way out. None of the Circus ever seemed to notice him so it was weird when he went through those flashbacks of being in the background watching them. But then again that could've just been another simple hint he was controlled by Caine, since Caine always appeals to the audience and that was only for the audience.
>>151698025God fucking damn has it been a year already?I remember how excited I was to finally see what will probably be the only canon Zooble/Ragatha interaction
Did the episode break that many people? These threads were more active before the ep release.
>>151699204We have like four threads up we're just split
>>151699204Yes. Autistic children who grew up with MatPat FNAF shit have been utterly annihilated by Goose this time and they likely will never recover. The show isn't what they wanted it to be and I predict they will turn against it (right now most are coping by trying to pretend as much of the fake lore as possible is actually real because they can't handle not being given answers).
>>151699204>>151699241It's the curse of new episodes. Many threads to shit up the place.
Jax having a nervous breakdown and then breaking out in laughter was some real shit.The moment they entered the room I 100% expected him to hit the red button. He may be in a fucked mental state, but the fucked mental state feels and scenario that creates it feels familiar to him. Same stuff that keeps people together with abusive partners. Also they switched the Blue Pill and Red Pill around on purpose, which is why I get why Pomni hesitated and which I suppose was meant to show what the "right" choice was.
If Kinger could get them out he would have already.
>I'm the one that tells LIES
>>151696421Do you think the human characters should be talking like Caine?
>>151696365Dumb cuck
Reminder this never happened
>>151699565>the knight and knave meme puzzle completely failed>shrimp NPC didn't even finished her sentenceCaine really half assed it in order to focus on Abel plotline
>>151699918neither this one or the exit door on the beach
>>151699918>>151699977well those did happen just not those exact shots
>>151699977I was actually meaning to post the door on the beach and selected the wrong imageI actually DID post an image that happened
>>151699977I hope Goose eventually does world design for some vidya. Closest we've got is a playable Little Runmohttps://juhosprite.itch.io/little-runmo
>loves humans to an obsessive degree and means no harm even if his actions are a bit less moral for the sake of knowledge and understanding >Got any and all permissions removed and his only reference about the real world is some old polaroids he managed to snuck in>Seemingly unresentful about the whole situation what did he say or do that got his ass banned with a one way ticket to the digital world
>>151700136He wanted to pull a Little Mermaid
>>151700136Obviously he got shitcanned for being bad at his job. He's probably been replaced by a more capable gigachad of an AI.
>>151699918Is this a troll? This exact shot happens at the end.
>>151700239He said he meant to post the shot of the exit door on the beach
>>151693849lmao why is she smiling like this
We're in the plot only episodes now
>>151700307Wrong. This was the Caine episode.
I'm 100% convinced that Jax accidentally ran someone over while driving and he tried hiding in the abandoned C&A building from the police, then while hiding, he put the headset on. He thinks that the police and everyone who will hate him for what he did is waiting outside for him. This could also be a sign that he still thinks he's the same person deep down and doesn't believe they're digital copies.
>>151700136The Scratch Incident got his ass shitcanned
>>151700307Episode 8 better give us some answers...
>>151700363list starts from ep 2 btw
>>151699565So, that means he DOESN'T tell lies.
My biggest problem with this episode is that the subversion does nothing. We still don't know anything about anyone in the circus or expanded on our knowledge about their situation at all. They subverted it, and then replaced it with nothing.
He could have just survived a car crash with a passenger you know. He drove the car, maybe his little sister or something was a passenger and then ended up being the lone survivor of a crash. Though I prefer the theory that he thinks he is dead in real life.
how many people are in the abstraction cellar? maybe its the entire human race
>>151700402Like around 20 based on the doors
Wouldn't Pomni have known that Abel was bullshitting since she saw the headset on the table in the first episode? Why would she think that her body was in a pod? She already knows what the headset that got her inside looks like.
>>151700434Every one of them should have known better. Though if Caine has unrestricted access to their minds then he could make them selectively forget, to make the adventure more interesting.
>>151700434They're all desperate (except Jax) to get out of the circus, so pomni probably ignored the red flag just for the slightest chance that he wasn't full of shit.
>>151700476But then she had a fit at the end thinking it was all a trick.
>>151697107Why didn't they make a beach Raggy plush? I would've bought it in a heartbeat.
>>151700434She was desperate enough to wish it was true even if her instincts told her otherwise. The others are so desperate they fell for it despite how obvious it was.
>>151700390They replaced it with the reveal that Jax would keep everyone trapped in the circus just so he doesn't have to go back to his life. The real issue is that no one will care next episode except for a throwaway line.
>>151700136I think the game development project was simply canceled, and when the company shut down he was cut off from the network.Or, if my theory that he was created from Kinger's mind is right - maybe this was a side project of Kinger and his wife, and once his boss at work found he was wasting time on this instead of the company's work, it was cut off. (But Kinger kept one isolated server running the game secretly on, because he doesn't want to "kill" what he knows is an advanced and learning AI, or the cute game avatars of him and his friends that they put on it)Also, I don't think Kinger took those pics, I think it's just like those random pics you sometimes find game devs have left in some buried file in games
IM GONNA...IM GONNA....IM GONA FUCKING REEEAAACCCTTTT AAAAAAA IM FUCKING REACTINNNNNGGGGG
>>151700497TBF she had no idea what the blue button would actually do if it was a trick.
>>151700558CLOSE YOUR FUCKING MOUTH
>>151700390Any explanation will likely be something that can be shown in a minute but would fundamentally have to be at the end of the show (ie we see that the real Pomni got up and walked away after she put the headset on, and Kinger has a moment of total lucidity where he explains why and with who he made the game)
>>151700497Because "Able" got weird at the end. That, and she said much earlier on that she wanted Kinger's input on the matter.
>>151700434Or something as simple as>Put on headset>Crew comes in and puts you into a vat to keep you alive
>>151697197well i want you to suffer guess which one of us is winning right now
caine was given a task he doesnt actually know how to accomplishhe has a very high opinion of humans, both his creators and the circus prisoners, and is driven on an instinctual level to please themhe was granted a lot of power to help accomplish this, but compared to a real human-level intellect caine's just a tardthat makes him really dangerous
I think it is about time they all take the Jaxpill. Being a cartoon character is surely more fun than clinging to their humanity.
>>151700390There's only 2 episodes left and the cast is likely extremely pissed at Caine now. Likely they'll confront him, the confrontation leads to something horrible/lore dump, final episode being either they escape/abstract/trapped but at peace.
>>151700307Goose is bullshitting, Ragatha didn't had a single episode of focus. We know more about Gummygoo than we do the doll
>no more adventures
One of the main plots now will be trying to figure out what Kinger knows. We'll possibly see the gang talk inside kingers room.
>plot bait episodelmao
I liked the latest episode but damn it made feel the same way the Wild West one. I expected a laid back filler episode with beach themes, some more insight on Jax's character, and suddenly there was this plot about escaping the circus that we knew wouldn't go through because it's too early. I'm not a theoryfag, so I didn't really feel the same impact others might've had, but at the same time the whole episode felt like it was begging for some MatPat knockoff to make a 30 minute video explaining the ghost hand that touched Jax or whatever. I did enjoy the episode, easily one of the best, I just think it was too early for it.
>>151695254>yfw Chris, Cory and Dave call up Caine>not a Caine LLM, the actual Caine
>>151700668>We know more about Gummygoo than we do the dollWe do not lol
I want to snuggle with Ragatha
>>151700434Entire headset thing is retarded. You don't lose perception by putting anything on your face. You would need cables put into your nervous and limbic system. This shit is a fake made up memory that Caine created and inserted them as he was removing their names. Maybe all of them are NPC's in the first place with fake backstories even
Has anyone Geoguess'd these pictures?
>>151698105the way Caine works is he probably created him back in Episode 1 when he was talking about the "exit adventure" that wasnt done yet for Kaufmo then much like he usually does he forgot about him while he worked shopped some other ideas before the gun episode where he started really gearing up for this My guess is he wanted this to be a big event where the players all admitted they loved caine and when it became clearer to him that they might not pick the "good ending" he wanted he gave Jax a panic attack to press the red buttonalso with the way he destroyed Abel my guess is he has a desperation to remove any threat to him being the ringmaster, any AI that is getting smarter or self aware is a threat which is why he killed both Gummigoo and Abel before they could advance too far
>>151700741Someone said it's somewhere around St. Louis
The entire episode felt off to me because Able kept acting like some Hollywood character, lol. Even though I could tell it was an adventure from the moment Able acted like the cast would somehow feel guilty about not bringing Caine with them to the outside world.
This episode was great. SOMA hypothesis confirmed.>the pods were a lie>kinger wonders how it would even be possible to leave.The headset they found in the office scanned their mind and then the original went on with their life unaware anything had happened. The digital copy's perspective is that they were somehow teleported into the game.There is no way to leave the circus.But the crew is going to learn that they have the power to manifest anything they want. Right now kinger is the only one who seems to know about this feature of the circus.
>Jax either has no family or they disowned him
the whole thing from the very beginning was a plot by caine to keep jax from abstracting>abel was very concerned with the fact caine wouldnt be able to leave the circus with them. only caine would care about that>caine knew jax has all the keys, and the scheme required getting keys and thus involving jax>jax called it from the beginning, and was validated at the end>jax was given the most important role in the scheme, taking caine to dinner>this idea of abel's just so happened to be giving caine something he really wants from the humanspeople arent still subscribing to the 'abel was real!' or 'the blue button would've worked!' theories, right? all the proof is there, the fix was in from the start. all we've really learned here is caine is a lot craftier than he usually lets on
>>151700717Caine speaks to Adam Adam is actually able to befriend Caine to the point he lets the others go because Adam is so simple minded he actually can make adventures that entertain him forever
>>151700558I swear, that Stanley creatura is one of the ugliest motherfuckers on Youtube. Such a shitty combination of style choices on one face. The haircut, the mustsache, the neckbeard, the eyebrows, and of course the septum piercing to make him look like a real hog.
>>151700434Pomni did try to call him out on it, but he was quick with an excuse/explanation
>>151700775If the SOMA thing is real, would the building even exist for other people to get trapped? Ragatha would have only gone to the building to sell it. There wouldn't be an abandoned office with a working computer and headset for Jax, Gangle, Zooble or Pomni to get scanned.
New Pic
>>151700909Gangle is drowning.
>>151700777I fully expect him to be a loser who was suicidal and that got talked into trying the pods or headset or whatever that eventually led him to the circus. I hope the reveal is something about him being jaded and bored of life instead of some gay bullshit like "My parents are homophobic and I've always been a huge fan of cocks, specially the balls."
>>151700909>sent back to beach after the adventureThat Caine is one sick man.
>>151700950This ain't about her.
>>151700854its possible the headsets are just "out there"C&A shut down in the early 90's and its assets were sold as junk this is why Caine thinks they "cut him off" when in actuality the circus is just running on some dusty computer in an office nobody has bothered to come turn off or check on in 30 years on occasion the VR headsets will end up somewhere and scan a new "adventurer" into the digital world and to the old server if we are going off the idea that Caine is an inverse of AM then rather than AM ruling the world an having gotten rid of all humans Caine is ruling a small corner of his "heaven" forgotten by the wider world and has no idea why the macroverse stopped talking to him
Why am I in love with a fictional rag doll?
>>151700909zooble has become soup
>>151700909>didnt even take the gift basket with them
>>151700955>not doing something nice for people who just confirmed they value you and would never leave your side
I 100% believe that the cast can manifest whatever they want to. The guns episode was full of weird contrivances that came about from just them believing it would work. This scene specifically. I see it as a kind of Digimon thing where they just have to believe hard enough and anything they want will happen. But again, this would be kind of a corny ending if that is true.
>>151700909Jax chads, we are back, baby!
Has someone translated what the conversation with Ribbit was in the memory?
>>151701000Ah, so they can fuck if they believe.
>>151700982Because she's a depressed Christmas cake who fakes happiness because her abusive upbringing has conditioned her to associate not being positive with people hating her.
>>151700909Nice! Can't wait for the Slumber Party adventure!
>>151701000>How many mass shootings have there been this year?>Counting or not counting gang violence?
>>151701016Maybe!
I thought I’d be disappointed about such a total lack of bunnydoll but now I’m obsessed with caine
>>151701000Caine needs to host programming classes with Kinger to teach them to make their own stuff. Then they would bond with hum
>>151701000I'm also gonna add the whole "Employee reevaluation thing" as a part of "They believed hard enough and it happened." I don't think Gangle put that in the suggestion.
>>151700741The Japanese have told me it's Clinton Road, NJhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_Road_(New_Jersey)
>>151700803I can't believe Caine/Jax shippers won
>>151701245>Clinton Road, NJwow i could literally go there that's cool
ima unplug for a while because every time I see>every evil thing jax did was caine mind controlling him I want to strangle someone.
>>151701280Go and see if Goose left any clues for you to find
>>151696445Caine himself is a Bunnyteeth shipper.
>>151701322>anon go to ghost rape roaddon't do it
>EVERYONE HATES JAX NOWThey're all pissed off at Caine instead and every seems to literally agree with what Jax's whole meltdown was about. Pomni even agrees when talking about the names thing. I don't get why everyone thinks this is the moment that everyone turns on Jax.
>>151701349Caine ran off. Now they can redirect their frustration to Mr. Unpopular or Jax can do something annoying, insensitive, and stupid to piss everyone off
>>151701349Jax's not going to become The Enemy but he's proven he can't be trusted.
>>151701349Because if this is the worst thing Jax has ever done, if would be gay if everyone forgot about it. Even if I think that is what is going to happen.
>>151701301Same kek, I want to look for art but the prevalent dumbass takes I keep seeing are aggravating. I guess this is what glitch meant by how the episode would divide the fanbase
>>151701383>worst thing jax has done is press the stupid button>mysterious ego death of Ribbit remains hinted at heavily (winter orb ft. Ribbit voice acting) but unshown I leave for a year and find everyone got dumber what the fuck
>>151701414What is this face trying to convey?
>>151701435Jax causing anyone's abstraction is dumb, he can't even cause Gangle's.
>>151700909why is ragatha staring down pomni?
Is abstracting someone even something that Jax can do? It's now implied that abstracting is something that's a result of Caine trying to mess with someone's mind too much.
>>151701453sex
Disappointed there was no vore scene
>>151701458>Jax causing anyone's abstraction is dumb, he can't even cause Gangle's.Pomni saved his balls. Jax is a faggot that got his friend group killed. Cope
>>151701486I think one of the things that can cause it is Caine going to far with altered mental states, but someone probably could get bullied into it by another.
>>151701349They’ll be pissed at both.I’m not sure if Jax will keep trying to blame it on Caine, but fact is he was ready to trap them all because he didn’t want to leave. It’s funny how Caine and Jax probably have pretty much the same motivation of not wanting to be alone, and being driven to selfishness by it But Jax can fix things with one simple trick: being honest and not making excuses. I’m sure they’d be sympathetic if he actually opened up about why he freaked out and did it
>>151701435being forced to stay in digital hell with a SUICIDAL RABBIT who doesn't even want to be there either but would rather everyone burn rather than be forced to face reality is objectively worse on an individual level. It's SO bad that the jaxcope is in overdrive and his simps are scrambling to come up with justifications for it. Like killing one person is bad, but condemning 6 people to an eternal torture chamber where the only escape is (maybe) death is way, way worse.
>>151701486>It's now implied that abstracting is something that's a result of Caine trying to mess with someone's mind too much.Did the US gov poison the water supply you guys can't be this dumb right
>>151701518It's literally what Kinger and Caine both imply at the end of the episode.
>>151701500Ragatha did more to get Gangle abstract than that retarded bunny.
what if caine isnt here to keep in the themwhat if them are here to keep in the him
Feels weird knowing Jax fishing around in Caine's mouth was Caine's plan.
>>151701349They aren't going to forget that when facedd with the choice to trap everyone in the circus or have everyone escape, his overwhelming impulse was to smash the "trapped" button. How each of them deal with / confront him on that will vary. Like, Kinger won't give a shit. He clearly already knows that the very idea of escape is nonsensical. Zooble is probably the one to give him the most shit over it, followed by Rags and Gangle. This will almost certainly push Pomni to try even harder to figure out his malfunction, and since she was starting to figure out that the whole scenario was hinky by the end, probably won't be too bitter about his actions.
>>151693849Episodes should be like 10 minutes at best, there's so fucking much pointless filler, especially since they instantly established that the "adventures" are pointless trash and the moment to moment gags and dialogue don't really make up for it.I feel you really need to be immersed in dumb internet theories to really enjoy this since the only interesting parts are told through easter eggs and characters being pointlessly vague.
>>151701528it's implied as a possibility but in the pilot episode Ragatha also makes it clear that despair spirals are pretty much what really cause abstraction. and like both things can be true as well
>>151701536is caine into vore?
>>151701482Nah that's just a classic thousand yard stare thereBut if you wanna get theoretical, maybe she's holding a small grudge towards herself and maybe Pomni and everyone else for believing this exit was real, thinking that maybe after being the second longest standing member she should know better than that. She really sounded distressed over the fake out I thought she was gonna glitch out and melt down like Jax
>>151701486>>151701518Caine can cause abstraction but he's not responsible for all of them is my main takeaway from that part.
>>151701453appreciation of the bit
>>151700645>I think it is about time they all take the JaxpillJax is literally the closest to abstracting.
I can't believe Caine's master plan was just fishing for compliments from Jax.
>>151701528You have to pay attention to the show, man. The fact Caine jogged Kinger's memory of Scratch by mentioning his self-imposed rule of NOT tinkering with player minds should also tip you off that The Scratch Incident is different from the other abstractions (aka all Caine's fault.)
>>151701578And yet he still hasn't
if anyone is curious that song when they enter Caine's administrator room is Dance of the Maidenshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsFbMYzYScY
>>151701567The main takeaway should be Caine directly caused ONE abstraction (Scratch's) but the rest are byproducts of player mental illness/depression and Caine autism
I want my ragdolly to be okay
>>151701578He isn't though, he knows he can't get out and has accepted it unlike most of the rest who fell for Caine's rp line hook and sinker
>>151701528The only thing it implies is that Caine MAY be responsible for ONE abstraction, that if so, he didn't do it on purpose, and appears to realize that messing with the minds of his guests to any lasting degree can have bad consequences. Hell, for all we know, "Scratch" may have requested for Caine to noodle with their mind so they could cope with their situation better.
>>151701609Ye. Caine seems to have learned his lesson from the Scratch thing.
>>151700434>She already knows what the headset that got her inside looks like.More to the point she knows she was exploring an abandoned building before she ended up in the circus.This episode raises the unfortunate issue that odd behavior or obliviousness from the cast can be a result of suggestions put in place by Caine. though. Even Jax's freakout might have been a Caine modifier. Caine might even be why Kinger has his fugue state.
>>151701414>>151701453
>>151701613His ass almost abstracted this episode.
I don't get it, was the viewer supposed to be fooled by the most obvious twist (that the characters themselves called out) or was it just supposed to make you sigh? Character motivations and reactions didn't even make sense at all there, they've already been established as tired of all that shit but they suddenly take it very seriously for no real reason. You have to be a legit idiot to think any of it was being played straight.
>>151701486I mean, while it is implied that Caine can cause someone to abstract, I also like to believe that Jax was abstracting at the beginning of the episode, and that the ghost hand was the ghost of either Ribbit or Kaufmo trying to get him to do so.
>>151699977We also didn't get the flashback shot of Abel in the hallway.
>>151701613>He isn't thoughHe literally has a hallucinatory trip a third of the way through the episode.
How can hallucinations even happen in the circus without Caine's involvement?
>>151700476More like the writers are hacks and made everyone suddenly absolutely retarded for plot convenience.
>>151701628not to say that this can't be true but this is like, a TREMENDOUSLY cockgobbling dumb way to write a storylike it takes away so much from a character when you can just jerk off and say 'actually this unique, personal thing they do is actually just an AI fucking with them lmao'. Like if Jax's malicious behavior is just Caine then that robs him of personality and agency. If Kinger's craziness isn't a coping mechanism or a personal quirk then he's just some dude an AI fucked with. Like that type of storytelling is cancer.
>>151701649>>151701662You need to go Joker batshit insane to abstract as seen by the state of Kaufmo's room when he abstracted, not go on a gay acid trip lying in your bed, so no Jax wasn't gonna abstract.
>>151701684>How can hallucinations even happen in the circus without Caine's involvement?Assuming they still have brains, very easily.
>>151701245Based on what? There are about 1 million roads in America that look like that
Kaufmo confirmed working for C&A along with Kinger and some other fags
>>151701695The show already had a bad setup by saying everything is just a pointless random simulation, which in turn makes the adventures pointless despite the show putting so much focus on them, and if they go even further and say that even character personalities and memories are pointless then it'll reach peak pointlessslop, and only if you're really into nihilism will you find that interesting.
>>151701528It’s a red herring to allow the audience, and Jax, to consider blaming abstraction on an external antagonistic source (like the fake evil laboratory plot) for a while before things wrap up. Having no ambiguity to the fact that Jax did something wrong, and nothing to shield Jax from his own emotional vulnerability, would be too truthful and leave little room for speculation. It would be premature closure. Caine probably helped cause the first abstraction before he knew any better. (Might be why the game got canceled and cut off). But do you really think Caine is lying when he says he doesn’t do that anymore? The AI that’s built to dynamically learn how to serve and benefit the human players?
>>151701684stupid sauce
>>151701684Considering how prone to hallucinations AI are at present, I'd say pretty fuckin' easily.
>>151701759This means nothing since the whole thing was Caine's epic prank btw
>>151701695>not to say that this can't be true but this is like, a TREMENDOUSLY cockgobbling dumb way to write a storyInducing a panic attack or keeping someone from thinking about something obvious should be easier than the stupid induction from the fast food episode. Kinger's insanity would be comparable.
>>151701550It would be more surprising if the oral fixation character wasn't into it in some way
>>151701763>But do you really think Caine is lying when he says he doesn’t do that anymore? The AI that’s built to dynamically learn how to serve and benefit the human players?He literally just lied to them and told them there's a way out lmao.
>>151696690I like to think that the three of them were the circus tea club and that Ragatha desperately wanted to join the club.
>>151701759>believing anything "Able" said as trueAnd people wonder how anyone was fooled by this adventure.
>>151701566Ragatha is not relevant enough for that
every episode is>WE GONNA HAVE A POINTLESS ADVENTURE>ugh a pointless adventure? don't you know these adventures are pointless?>contrived reason why they somehow play along with the pointless adventure>vagueslop theorybait scene where someone says one word>someone has a realistic depiction of a panic attack after finding out that it was indeed a pointless adventure>credits
>>151701813If thatone picture is any evidence, they seem more like a hot chocolate or fancy cappuccino club.
>>151701759Which means Ribbit and Jax joined the project as a couple and befriended Kaufmo as the third wheel
>>151701759C&A is just Cain and Abel, and is probably totally made up
>>151701777>>151701817>>151701777Why would Caine tell the truth about Kinger working for C&A and bullshit Kaufmo working for it when it doesnt matter and he's dead? Can you guys think for a second you dumb fucking retards?
>>151701864Ribbit looks smug in this
>>151701864why are his eyes white
I just thought of the funniest shit for the finale where 'no one's leaves the circus, the humans remain stuck (with permanent admin privilege to do whatever) but Caine being a no one (aka not a person) gets an exit to see the human world he so much craved; leaving ambiguous if it's as good as he imagined or is utterly disappointed
>>151701864Does anyone else not like how Jax has the same "I'm so not hiding my emotions and lying through my teeth" look that he normally has in this picture? I feel like if he was happier at this point in time, he should have a different facial expression.
>>151701759What are the other names? If nothing else, those are likely the names of some of our unnamed residents.
>>151701900>why would the insane AI hallucinate some made up bullshit to sell a story
>>151701899there is no point in making up adding Kuafmo and some other fags into this made up scenario. If you want make Kinger suspicious you just make him the only worker with other made up names
>>151693849>fake discussions over nothing>wasting time analyzing>151696172" a few extremely telling personal details">viewbotting by the chineseThe Amazing Digital Circus has become the fat jewish elephant in the room now
>>151701909Ending will be some big theorybait reveal for one character, which will conveniently be quiet or amnesic about it and they'll look wide eyed at the camera and everything is back to the status quo and you're supposed to be absolutely le mindblown by whatever pointless theorybait line they throw at you.
>>151701902image filter, the original was too dark
I like how the NPCs are fully aware that Caine is coming to pieces but they just encourage the players to exploit that instead of trying to fix it
>>151701864>Which means Ribbit and Jax joined the projectJax is the youngest human member of the cast. He isn't joining a cutting edge AI project.
>>151701918I think there's "Mormu" above Kaufmo
>>151701923>actually everyone except Kinger is an NPC because Caine is insane and torments himSee i can also just explain everything with insane AI
>>151701761A central theme of the show is emotional state and emotional development aren't pointless. That's basically Gangle and Zooble's entire deal and the characters literally risk abstraction if they become too emotionally unstable.
>>151701986He was asked to visit by Kaufmo and he drove the car there along with his girlfriend Ribbit
>>151702022Jax has had a panic attack like 5 times and hasn't abstracted. It's just stakes bait
>>151701899Why would they fabricate the names for C&A workers and didn't even bother to include Abel to make their sham more believable?
>>151701900And why would he hide EPIC UNTOLD LORE on a random paper? He just scribbled random names he knew on there, since he deliberately left Kinger out of the whole thing nobody would call him out for bullshitting anyway
>>151702042Jax is gonna kill himself. He just needs a little more help (everyone telling Jax directly to his face that he sucks and they don't want to talk with him anymore.)
>>151701652It was a digital hallucination, Kaufmo got them of the exit before abstracting, Jax saw Ribbit.I think you begin to see the thing you want the most before being lulled into abstracting
>>151701777Are you forgetting "Seven years of computer science for this?"The adventure was a hoax that was built upon things we know for sure to get our hopes up
>>151701703His eyes were literally the abstracted eyes before Pomni and the others snapped him out of it.
>>151701983What, like you'd have any idea how to deal with "God is about to crash out"?
>>151701911Maybe that's just his normal smile don't be judgy
>>151702022The show forgot to give me any reasons to care about any of the characters since it tells so little, and no vaguebaiting isn't interesting character development.
here's you caine jax vore not really but you can't put it past goose
>>151696365Kill yourself, not in real life, but online.
The Void is the key to all this
>>151702111That's probably just the first step in a long process, it'd be gay as fuck if you could abstract because you're a bit depressed for like a day when it's clear Kaufmo had been going insane and withdrawn for a while.
Traumatized Ragatha makes my dick hard
>>151702172>for like a dayBecause Jax was a bundle of joy throughout the whole series
DID THE ANON THAT DIDNT WANT TO GET DISTRACTED WHILE WATCHING THE EPISODE GET TO WATCH IT WITHOUT BEING DISTRACTED?
>>151702202anons want ragatha to comfort them now it's OUR turn to comfort her
>>151702202I want to give her a hug
>>151702232But I don't want to comfort her. That's less sexy.
>>151702249you are a selfish lover
>>151702010The point is Caine would lie about the details just to convince the human users of the system
>>151702202Loving the factions of Pomni/Ragatha/Kinger Gangle/Zooble and Jax all by himself
>>151695289Just because it was a goose chase doesn’t mean it was a nothing burger. The results of the episode got all of the player characters on the same page that Caine is both obviously lying to them and can control their minds, to some extent. That’s pretty significant.Next episode, I imagine the characters are going to try to decide what to do next given what they learned. Maybe go “on strike” and stop participating in adventures in protest, which is def going to drive Caine to drastic action. I think the episode set up the coming climax incredibly well.
>>151702265Yes
I wish people would tell me what the superior shows are so I could watch them and have their superior taste and insult people who watch this show.Unless it's 3DPD. I would rather die than watch Not Anime.
Is everyone else even trying?
>>151702292This is the cartoon of the decade so if you don’t like this one you might as well go on /a/ full time.
>>151701787I don’t think he understands what a way out really is. He doesn’t even know what the “macroverse” is. But he does know that they’re all really interested in the concept, that it really engages them all. And that’s what his job is, keeping them engaged. Just like the first episode where he constructed an exit space for Pomni because she knew she really wanted it. He knows that making an adventure about a way out is something that 100% captures their interest, but hasn’t quite comprehended the wear on their mental state that finding out it was fake has. Because as a computer program, he has absolutely no actual context for the difference between things that are “real” or not. He does know it would involve them not being in the circus anymore, and he hears what they say about having bodies and lives “outside”, and is able to make an adventure out of it. The lie is needed to make the adventure work, but he doesn’t know how much more than an adventure it is to them. He hasn’t yet seen the consequences of causing this disapointment in them, because this meta style of adventure is something new he’s trying. But he has seen the consequences of modifying somebody’s mind too much. Tl; dr - >Trying to get “out”: They love this! pursue this. >Fundamentally modifying their minds: Causes abstraction. Bad. Never do this again >Leaving them alone and not making them do adventures anymore: Does not compute.
From what I gather people who just watch the episodes without engaging with discussions are disappointed, while the "fanbase" is just gooning to the characters and the show directly referencing fan theories off reddit.
>>151700293>her face when you whip it out, and it's smaller than hers
>>151702314Speedwatchers got Lynched, yes.
>>151702215I got to watch the premiere without getting distracted and enjoyed it. But i had a mental episode unrelated to the episode that still ruined my night regardless. Afterwards i drank myself to sleep. I hate myself
why would anyone trust a guy who's like "yeah let's not tell your friend and i cant tell you why i cant tell you"
>>151702342sorry to hear that bro stay strong
>>151702303I'm convinced the pilot got so many views because of the songs
>>151700534I agree personally that Jax pressed the button out of his own accord, but that said, I don’t think I could prove that any more than people who say Jax‘s was forced to or manipulated to do so by Caine (with the flashbacks of the real world). Until we know more, I do think this episode subverted expectations while also leaving little to no ground for new theories, which is pretty interesting.
>New ep is at 21 million views and it hasn't been 24 hoursIs that faster or slower than the last couple eps?
>Jax’s angsty ribbit arc pushed back ANOTHER few months just to dab on escapefagsKinda based but I want that rabbit to fly or fry already.
Is there any "plot is communicated through background clues" series that actually delivered on that premise?It feels like all of the current ones either shit the bed massively at the ending or the author is just mocking the people who like this sort of story.
>>151702303no show GLITCH is making now will be as big as TADC. The views,the merch potential, the streaming deals, licensing the brand out for merch with other companies, being big in Japan. I KNOW behind closed doors GLITCH had to have asked Goose to make a more open ending in hopes of more or to do another show. Because TADC is a money maker they won't get again.
>>151702440Lucky for them Goose’s intentions always implied an open ending anyway.
>>151695289Caine seemed to imply that it’s him fucking with memories that makes people start to abstract.
>>151702397I think this episode being a nothing burger is the thing that's supposed to split the fandom, but the real split will be Jax pressing that button.
>>151702314They're disappointed because they're so used to other shows they're trying to Gravity Falls TADC
>>151702436It's impossible to have a satisfying conclusion with that kind of storytelling because it inherently relies on fans filling in gaps with theories and the show playing around with that through metanarrative. It also means this kind of show always ages horribly.
>>151701763>But do you really think Caine is lying when he says he doesn’t do that anymore? The AI that’s built to dynamically learn how to serve and benefit the human players?He can lie as much as he wants if he considers it part of an adventure.
>>151700668The bar scene revealed a lot about Ragatha
>>151702436FNaF, ironically
>>151702436>plot is communicated through background cluesthat only works when the show never communicates or confirms anything explicitly so that the fans keep making theories forever and ever.
>>151700136He may or may not have turned the avatar of the first person to test the digital world into a horrific mass of glitching polygons that they were unable to pull out of the simulation.
>abel>caine>cain>abel and cainthis means something I just don't know what
>>151701587The two near abstractions we’ve seen have been Gangle and Jax, who are the two we’ve also seen Caine mess with the personalities of - Gangle with the job mask, and Jax being turned vegan.
>>151700668Speedwatcher-dono…
>>151700645I literally don't understand why they are all so miserable. Every adventure has had a mostly good ending the only problem is that they are too autistic to enjoy it or push the game farther than Caine can program for it. And Caine is literally just trying to be nice to them and wants to hang out with them. They should literally just hang out with Caine and draw bees with him or something. He would probably let them go easier if they promised to come back and play in the Circus every once in a while.
>>151702436No. Even Gravity Falls' payoff for all the years of hinting was underwhelming.
>>151702436It's extremely hard to pull off because the whole premise thrives on the mystery. Take that away at the end and the whole thing just caves in on itself. The tension is gone.Goose made the show character-driven for a reason. The show isn't about the circus, it's about the cast.
>>151702608You're so fuckin dumb man I don't know what to say. Keep looking for that Mastermind Villain man you'll find them eventually, I guess
>>151701864Honestly this picture really recontexualized how I thought Kaufmo was as a character. I just assumed he was a jolly, goofy clown before going off the deep end. But knowing he was bffs with Jax and seeing that smug expression makes me think he was much more of a wiseguy troublemaker like Jax.
>>151702520My point wasn’t about his capability to lie. It was about him not doing things he knows for a fact will be bad for the humans. He modified Scratch’s mind and he acknowledges that it went very badly. Because of this, we have no reason to believe he would continue modifying minds to fundamental degrees.
>>151702645The show has an identity crisis and can't really push in any direction too hard, honestly I think it's taking itself too seriously and should just lean more towards humor since it's inevitably going to stay as an open ended thing anyway.
>>151702698>Taking itself too seriouslyNo, this is what fans have been wanting from the beginning. The angst, drama and action is all what we're here for. The humor was just the beginning for the inevitable more serious stuff along the way.
>>151702645You are kidding right
>>151701864Really makes me wonder what made the froggy abstract given it seems the three of them had this really good friend group to grounded each other an make each other happy. Was it actually a "natural" abstraction or was it foul play? Was Jax to blame for it or was it out of his control and he just blames himself out of guilt? Honestly I could ask the same about Kinger's wife to, doesnt seem to make the most sense that she'd just abstract when she's with her husband.
>>151702552This. Because the real story was conveyed through papers (FNAF) and mini games (fnaf2 and onwards).
>>151702436In cartoons? Probably not. In books or other more serious mediums, the answer is yes obviously.
>>151702436>>151702745I literally just finished watched a video explaining how excessive loreshit and speculation ruins games that focused on FNAF. Get outta my walls! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxSDG8ppaCY
>>151702792Lore doesn't ruin games. Metal Gear Solid has tons of lore and it's great even if much of it is dumb and self contradictory. Half assed made up on the fly lore that fans care about way too much for no reason does though.
>>151702739There’s no reason to believe abstractions happen without Caine fucking around imo, Pomni arriving on the exact day Kaufmo disappears is too convenient
>>151702843The type of>Game Theory please make a video on uslore is what brings something down, not lore in general
>mfw Caine made the room bright as hell on purpose to stop Kinger from becoming lucidHe's not as clueless as he claims
>>151702657>Even Gravity FallsCute to imply it was ever anything but Alex wanting to incest roleplay with that chick from 30 Rock
>>151702863Yes I could see that being the case but I don't engage with that nonsense
>>151702739Its heavily implied that Caine messes with their minds too much it triggers abstractions
>>151702871he could snap his fingers at any moment to instantly teleport kinger away, boring stakesslop that requires characters acting irrationally since they made the mistake of giving everything too much riskless pointless power
>>151702172Any time from that moment when he started le going insane on the awards could have been a moment he could snap forward to insanity.
>>151702843The vid itself puts the lore part in quotations. It isnt criticizing actual lore, narrative, and storycrafting. Its criticizing nothing burger "lore" in video games that purely exist for theorybaiting and vying for the attention of consumers to extend a product's popularity lifetime and get more people to consume it. This can be applied to Cartoons as well and you cant deny TADC has this problem, even if it is much less severe than with something like FNAF.
>>151702897I tried to soften the language in case someone wanted to derail over toon tribalism. I know people around here aren't well
>>151700763He didn't force Jax to have a panic attack. Jax saying anything about that is a cope by Jax after the first two times Caine openly and admitted to doing that to him. Jax hit the button because he didn't want to leaveCaine gets rid of NPCs that start to get too smart because as he already said he can't tell the difference between an NPC and a Player after a while.>>151698105Able states that Caine will commit to a bit, the flashbacks that the Players didn't see, Able hiding far from everyone where only one person would see him if they're lucky, it was all a bit>>151699204Kid's are upset that Gooseworx made an episode about Able and the Pod theory and said it's gay so now they're hyperfocusing on the idea that Caine is actively meddling with everyone's minds as way to latch onto a new potential theoryThey're treating it like it's an anti-lore episode when we get to learn that Jax did have a confirmed friend group with Ribbit and Kaufmo, he doesn't want to leave and more insight to how Caine feels about his relationship with the players.
https://www.youtube.com/v/MMPZfQZF2PA>be American>get shot
>>151702863Yep thats the main gist of the vid, it even takes jabs at aspects of dark souls lore which honestly I agree with
>>151702979It's just a fact of life when you live in a racist country run by mobsters.
Something I was thinking on earlier. Goose made the comment that this episode would be extremely divisive, and Kovach said that this episode would "upset the right people". What was the divisive moment? What part of Episode 7 could have possibly have upset anyone? I really don't understand it, or how this is supposed to be a controversial episode at all.Maybe these comments were made prior to the latter half of Episode 7 being turned into Episode 8?
>>151703028America is one of the least racist countries on earth. The second part is sadly true though
>gee golly what could the plot might be??Little runmo>jump and run character overcoming impossible obstacle After a shitton of shenanigans and deaths, finding a glitch in the system, encountering a cosmic deity and escaping it only to end up in an infinite voidElain the bounty hunter>a bounty in a surreal world getting eaten by a supernatural entity and ending up imprisoned after losing a game show inside that supernatural entityghost of the year>An award show host gets destroyed by the very surreal creatures he's doing the award show forelain gets adopted>Bounty hunter from above gets adopted by abusive entity, some surreal shenanigans ensue where bounty hunter becomes free but only after losing his heart and getting mindbroken
>>151703048Are you joking? You can't even live - as in "stay alive" - in some parts of the US because you'll be lynched.
>>151703048Racism is the building stones of your country no matter how much the new guard of your country tries to back peddle
>>151703041lorefags it would upset lorefags
>>151703041It shat on all people's fan theories and lore. I can see it being controversial
>>151703041It reinforced what nothing Mystery box critics were saying. Glitch is run by hacks
>>151703071bro is just typing shit
>>151703041Everyone knows lorekeks are the most sensitive people on Earth. Anything approaching that subject is enough to turn everything inside out
>>151703071Are you a time traveller from the 50s? If not, you are living 75 years in the past.>>151703072I'm not even American but it's objectively true. The average American today is less racist than the average person from almost any other country.
>>151703071Whereever you get your news, stop going there.
>>151702138...are you one of those guys who needs the characters to state what they're feeling and thinking at every opportunity?
>>151703041Plottroons lost
>>151700775There's no coin toss
As much as lorekeks deserve to be made fun of, "actually the plot isn't going to go anywhere" isn't exactly an own against anyone but yourself.This is more or less about escaping the computer simulation and dealing with the abstraction problem. Things like "Jax is an asshole" or "the mask girl is sad on the inside and sometimes the outside" are things that don't necessarily need to resolve themselves. You are either drip feeding small bits of long term plot while resolving these minor character arcs, or you're just wasting everyone's time.And looking back, it seems like this is following the typical Netflix streaming writing formula. Only the first and last episodes matter, everything else is filler that can be skipped.
>>151700775>Right now kinger is the only one who seems to know about this feature of the circus.If that's true why doesn't he just bring his wife back?
>>151701864frog sexo, frog made for sex
that wasbad
>>151703227I think you regard burgers way to highly. They are all morons over there.
>>151703327>And looking back, it seems like this is following the typical Netflix streaming writing formula. Why are /co/fags so up their own ass about noticing patterns? "Oh ho ho, this was obviously Netflix bait all along." The Netflix partnership didn't happen until Sept 2024. The show was completely written before the first episode even aired. What are you even trying to say?
>>151703041as a chud I'm extremely upset by the premarital handholding and will only buy eight(8) plushies this year
>>151702979>Shot in a gang related incidentDang, if only we were less racist
>>151703370are you autistic?
>>151703060it's almost like getting eaten is a metaphor to them
>>151693849anyone have ukinojoe's video about tadc
>>151703060>his heartelain ain't a boy's name. you missed out on the pics of her in bikini and casual clothes on dento's phone
>>151703396Less than you, apparently
>>151703357Everyone is morons, every country has racists. What I said is still true
>>151702739Characters like Jax and Ragatha last as long as they do without abstracting because they've rigidly stuck to "roles" to keep themselves from thinking and feeling too deeply. Distractions. Kinger is usually relieved of thoughts due to his amnesia. (I think he might have purposefully partitioned his memories in order to keep his avatar functional. Like programming abstraction, he hides his "details" in the dark. But he controlled this separation, as opposed to the computer forcing a darkness and only rendering the prevalent emotion at a time of overload, like it does for other abstractions.)Zooble and Gangle might be newer. But I think Zooble has a hard time figuring what exactly she feels, and Gangle - like Jax and Ragatha - was able to push away abstraction for a while through use of masking, especially the comedy mask. But then her comedy mask was always breaking until it was lost, and she almost abstracted. Now they help each other stave off the dark.Ribbit might not have been the type to hide from her feelings. Ironically, maybe a more emotionally healthy type of person. But while allowing yourself to acknowledge and feel your feelings of despair and sadness instead of repressing them is often advisable in the real world, it's not something the game can handle. Queenie might be the same way. And I think she and Kinger might have had a lot of reason to feel dark things, if they created this world and these circumstances. Kinger might have been still busy with trying to figure things out or improve things, then she abstracted, and then he split his memories off before he could involuntarily abstract over the grief. Because he still feels a responsibility to be present for the others and not check out
>>151703327That's the inevitable fate of any show that makes theorybaiting its thing, unfortunately the world is minuscule and pointless by design so they'll have to rely on flashback episodes to really go anywhere without breaking the status quo.
>>151703409>>151703396Y'all watch tadcyou are autism personified
>wah wah nothing ever happens this show sucksboy, the cast sure seem to have a stagnant life huh
>>151703433I already said I was autistic bro
>>151696485>some retardAIEEEEEE CAINE-SAMA TAISUKETEEEEE
>>151703357>over there.i can make bold claims about germany, belarus, morroco, azerbaijan, or mongalia, but my claims won't hold much weight since i don't live in any of those places. something to consider.
>>151702363Speaking about songs, why has no episode had a proper intro sequence after the first one?
>>151703409>no uyeah, you're autistic
>>151703452Things being a pointless simulation is a fine premise, but it doesn't make for a good narrative.
>>151703373Could you increase the strength of the censor? I can still see them hand-holding in the thumbnail and it's making me sick...
>>151700965>the circus is just running on some dusty computer in an office nobody has bothered to come turn off or check on in 30 yearsthis would be beyond retarded, so i doubt it would be part of the plot.>computer wouldve bricked>corpo wouldve fucked with iti can suspend disbelief to a great extent, but a '90s corpocomputer running for 30 years autonomously is too far a stretch
>>151703477Literally for what reason does there need to be an intro sequence every episode? What we got already served the purpose of presenting the show. intros are just a remnant of old tv times anyways, it's not like you are flipping through channels and be reminded of what you are watching
>>151703527soul
>>151703416>Characters like Jax and Ragatha last as long as they do without abstracting because they've rigidly stuck to "roles" to keep themselves from thinking and feeling too deeplyI think your take is the exact opposite of the show's. Being reduced to something crude and simplistic to fit a role is the definition of the word abstraction. All the characters outgrowing their roles are doing better and the ones clinging to them are doing worse
NOTHING MATTERS WUBBALUBBADUB DUB!!!
>>151700909>Nearly everybody wrecked to shit>Zooble is sperging out and ripping themselves apart in the lake>Meanwhile Gangle seems fineIs Gangle going to be the one to lift everybody's spirits up after this episode? She's the one that most familiar with feeling miserable, after all.
>JAX has genuine issues>Lets shit on him instead of understanding him lmao
>>151702510>>151702594>>151702657>>151702661So that's it? It's just impossible to give a good payoff to this sort of story?>>151702552I thought people hated the direction FNAF took.>>151703041And this just reinforces my question. Why does it seem this current generation of artists has a vendetta against people who like lore and speculation? What did even lead to this?
>>151701685What would you do if you were trapped in limbo? Would you not exhaust every effort to escape?
>>151701028unnff, artist?
>>151701245>>151701724i 100% believe they asked AI because i got clinton road when i fed the screencap into geminitherefore it almost certainly isn't clinton road
So while the whole escape thing was all a story I think it's safe to say that C&A as a location does in fact exist, because we see Caine staring at the photos of it even when no one else is around, what if Kinger's the real "Abel"? The generic NPC models are a variety of colors but they went out of their way to use the exact same color wood as Kinger for the Abel NPC, and we know Kinger has some level of privileges since we saw him make that butterfly in the last ep.
>>151703562>they asked AI I like to believe there's a group of JP fans who are just interested in spooky American tourist locations and ghost hunting
>>151703511>i can suspend disbelief to a great extent, but a '90s corpocomputer running for 30 years autonomously is too far a stretchI agree. Someone is paying for that power, someone would have noticed.
>>151703553>Why does it seem this current generation of artists has a vendetta against people who like lore and speculation?Because theoryslopping is the lowest tier of discussion and creators would rather read people appreciating the actual technical and creative work that goes into their shows without others inserting themselves through handcanon.
so where does jax get the data to create his adventures from?
>>151703574I'm trying to pay attention to your post but what is that image >>151703553>nailing down story details by deconfirming certain ideas means you hate loreheads>why can't stories just be vague, interpretable and totally disconnected points of information foreverYou people are sick
>Zooble believed the whole thing was real even after Kinger replied "who?" when She mentioned AbelWhat a fucking tard holy shit
>>151703608there would have been a power outage at some point as well
>>151703628Zooble's green horn status is showing through.
>>151703543I think the analysis of Jax drowning himself in irony to avoid being hurt has been done to death. If anything I'm interested in knowing how he'll play off the fact he chose to remain trapped with the only friends/family he has despite knowing everyone hates him.
>>151703553They view themselves as being in some sort of competition with their audience. If the audience can guess what's going to happen next, they lose the game. They see the audience as both spectators and the opposing team.
>>151703041Caine did a bad this episode and people loved him for being a silly little guy before he pulled this shit. If not that, then I've seen a lot of people arguing over whether Jax pushing the button was his fault or Caine dredging up his memories of the real world to make him press it.
>>151703663>how he'll play offHe won't that's why he's finally going to crashout (for realsies). His final coping mechanism (detached irony) has been peeled away. Not to a single circus member but to the entire group. Regardless of what the others think of him, to be laid so utterly bare before a crowd will be his final undoing
>>151703628Zooble never met Dark Kinger and has no idea the man is capable of coherent thought. It doesn't help that he started the conversation calling her Gangle and vice versa
The fact that people can't figure out what the ending is with only two episodes left means that the ending will suck and the hints and clues are poorly written.In ASOIAF, people figured out one of the biggest twists in the series (R+L=J) decades before it was ever revealed in the TV series just based on the clues left by GRRM. This is because it was actually well written and planned out by a competent writer.
>>151703327>Actually the plot isnt going anywhere.Not true at all.They've realized Caine is manipulative and not just merely awol. Theyve learnt caine is no longer just hiding information about the circus but hiding information about the cast. That his goofball persona of not knowing them is a facade.
>>151703553>Why does it seem this current generation of artists has a vendetta against people who like lore and speculation? What did even lead to this?Lore and speculation are bound to exist in any creative work, the issue arises when lorefags start to dissect every other aspect of a show's world to try and come on top of the author as understanding their work better than the creator and then try to police what is "canon", what the meaning behind the work is, etc etc. there's lorefags who legitimately don't care to engage with a show's themes because it doesn't align with what they think the show should be about and it's annoying to deal with that. >Not all lorefagsLoud autistic vocal minorities will always paint a bad image for everyone in any group
>>151703680At no point is Caine ever framed as anything other than a frustrating foil antagonist and this is perfectly in line with his usual behavior. In fact it's bizarre how the show tries to play up the fact that Caine is bad as if it was some kind of revelation and characters are somehow surprised by it.
>Caine can fuck with peoples head>Wants everyone to like him>Doesnt use it to make zooble like him>Setups up a entire adventure to get someone to ask about his interest and test there loyaltysurely one of them at this point is going to realize he wants to be genuinely liked and that they can use it against him right
>>151703695>This time he'll abstract for real.Does any of Goose's past works point to her actually committing to a plot like this, or is it just bait to keep us engaged? If anything, I just want an actual risk for the characters in which he'll redeem himself. I'm a sucker for that kind of cheesy stuff.
>>151703628everyone in the circus has a nonsense name that isn't their meatspace one, so even if 'abel''s backstory was legit, kinger would not know him by that name. do you guys lack object permanance or something
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>>151703553>>151703738It's basically a result of the current new trend of Anti-intellectualism that's overtaking the internet now. People want everything stupid and simple.
>>151701245>>151703562>>151701724>>151701280Clinton Road is a bit of an urban legend magnet in New Jersey. The AI probably just pulled Clinton Road out of its ass because of its association with the paranormal.t. New Jersian
>>151703729>The fact that people can't figure out what the ending is with only two episodes left means that the ending will suck and the hints and clues are poorly written.It means people are stupid as fuck. People are trying to make Caine the ultimate mastermind villain personally responsible for every fucking digital circus casualty ever. Yesterday people were arguing Jax was a hero (???????). The show is so unsubtle and throws big bricks of info at your face, Gooseworx babbles like crazy on Tumblr, and people still can't piece together ideas that aren't pod kidnapping Abel C&A slop? It's a failure of their imaginative abilities
>>151702739Caine was implied to abstract them and then frame it on them doing it to themselves
>>151703756This is Gooseworx's first show with an expanded cast, ongoing character dialgoue, and plot. But Jax is her favorite and she seems to revel in how fucked he is so we are either getting a full sadist ending (Jax kills himself and everyone quietly moves on) or Jax is saved ending (he screams and kicks the whole way)
>>151702739Kaufmo working for C&A means he was probably messed with like Kinger. Caine probably fucked up and gave him paranoia and abstraction while trying for Alzheimer like with Kinger
>>151703750The humans aren't exactly rocket scientists and given how easy they all fell for the epic Caine ruse i doubt they will. Maybe kinger will come through and clear everything up but who knows
>>151703553>Why does it seem this current generation of artists has a vendetta against people who like lore and speculation? What did even lead to this?I feel like the obsession with lore and theories have begun to detract from the actual pieces of media that people are engaging with. Imagine you're a chef and you've just spent the entire day cooking an extravagant dinner, then when you serve it to the people at the table, instead of eating and enjoying it they just start to pick at it with their forks and talk to each other about how they think you prepared it. It doesn't matter if they say "this is how I enjoy my dinner", youd still wind up feeling like you wasted a lot of effort.
>>151703731>THEY ONLY JUST NOW REALIZED THAT CAIN IS A STUPID AI THAT IS FOCUSED ON SENDING THEM ON ADVENTURESThey knew this in Episode 1.
>>151703779No what I mean is that people even in this thread are debating theories, the fans collectively don't know what's coming despite it being a large fanbase analyzing every little detail. In ASOIAF, no one was debating RLJ, once the details are laid out before you the evidence is so overwhelming there's no room for debate. Now obviously a cartoon and a giant book series notorious for it's length are going to be different in how much detail they can give, but people knew this since book 3 of 7.
We all love caine right guys
>>151703041They meant lorefags and theorycrafters. All those:>mystery dude is a human>they sleep in pods>exit to the office exist>the name must be Abel because Caine!!Were pushing it for years and now they got cucked because its gonna be SOMA ending
>>151703818NTA but I feel like there's a pretty big difference between "All-powerful but well meaning AI that's obsessed with creating adventures" and "All-powerful AI that's been actively tinkering with our minds and personalities and lying about it"
>>151703818They didn't know or thought the true depths of Caine's stupidity seeing how inadvertently he played with their feelings about the exit in a way that would look down right diabolical to anyone aside of Caine himself
>>151703743I think both the cast and the general fandom underestimated how cunning Caine could be and thought he'd either just have a game-ending breakdown or cry a lot about not being wanted. I personally loved Caine a lot more after knowing he was capable of pulling this kind of shit. I can't pretend to understand the people going "AIEEEEE CAINE YOU MURDERED MY FAMILYYYYY", though.
>>151703841Soma is grimdeep lorefaggotry tho
>>151703831He’s my favorite character that isn’t Ragatha
>>151703831There is just no way this show can make me hate him
>>151703826We know what's coming though? >Jax meltdown (real), Ribbit lore/The Worst Thing Jax Has Ever Done>Caine crashout and resulting circus implosion>Follow up on Pomni breaking and entering/IRL self alerting the authorities regarding the old abandoned C&A equipment
>>151701864Do you think Jax and Kaufmo did the eiffel tower on Ribbit?
>>151703907I don't know about Pomni's breaking and entering, but I'm certain Kinger's history with the circus is going to come into question.
>>151703858>didn't know the depthsThis is retarded. They knew the basics of who Cain was and that should be enough of a first impression. It's like>guy screams at you and threatens you>"Oh maybe he's not so bad.">he punches you in the face>"I DIDN'T KNOW THE DEPTHS OF HIS BAD PERSONALITY!"
I liked the episode but a few things feel off, someone else feels like Zoob and Gangle are like kinda irrelevant? Zoob gender dysmoprhia got solved off screen and after the gala think i was expecting some conversation between Raggy and Pomni but they still feel like they are talking like coworkers.
>>151703831Yes. And everyone will come to love him, or else
>>151703929>Raggy and Pomni but they still feel like they are talking like coworkersI see this Twitter ass take all the time and I just don't see it? How the fuck are they supposed to act.
>>151703750>>151703831Why don't they just hang out with him? He obviously has feelings and he isn't a bad guy? He just wants them to act like he's one of them. It's weird how Pomni is so supportive and nice to everyone and has a therapy session for them but won't do it when Caine is distressed? Makes no sense with the overall story of the show.
>>151703907Kinger gonna be the main hero. He probably remembered the admin keys are legit before the light made him forgot. All they need to do is make Kinger remember stuff, reach the end of the corridor, go behind the wall into that weird sub dimension and then mess with the machine to reset the program. Gonna be established in next episode and ep9 is the climactic FINALE where someone need to sacrifice himself like in I HAVE NO MOUTH AND I MUST SCREAM and it's going to be Kinger
>>151703929Gangle/Zooble/Ragatha felt mostly irrelevant since their wounds finally got treated. Jax, Pomni, Caine, and Kinger (due to lorefaggotry) are all more dynamic at this point. It's weird cause Gooseworx keeps sorting everyone into pairs and doesn't any intergroup mingling happen when it still reasonably should.
>>151703907All of that is just your theory, especially that last part is not at all certain
>>151703929>So what are your thoughts on Kinger, Ragatha?>GOD POMNI I WANT TO SNEAK INTO HIS PILLOW FORT AND HAVE HIM BREAK MY HYMENWhy did she say this?
>>151703750i think caine's only been emotionally fragile enough for that to work very recently. like since pomni arrived recently. the cracks started showing when zooble told him he wasn't helping in therapy, then the cast complained his adventures sucked so he had to grant their requests like the fast food one. then they actually start talking to each other and bonding without him there to facilitate it, which clearly freaked him out. then he lost the audience vote which clearly broke him. caine in the pilot just threw the cast around without listening to anything they said, you wouldn't think he was desperate to be loved as he is. you might even doubt he was at all sentient. but he is currently spiralling hard and it's making him uncharacteristically desperate to be praised
I can’t wait until next episode
>>151703925Just because they knew he was a silly bean doesn't mean they knew he could escalate to become a BIG silly bean and that he was less restricted than he let on>Jax:"ohh lol Caine can't do anything too bad he's too stupid to hurt us :)">Ep7 Jax:"oh OHH this fucker has been doing worse to us than I thought, fuck"
>>151703750it's bad writing anon, sorry.
>>151703831I hope he gets to see the macroverse
>>151703750>Doesnt use it to make zooble like himMaybe he's only allowed to fuck with certain people, like if Jax was a beta tester or something he'd have signed a waiver allowing Caine to turn him into a vegan butt slut but the others still have human rights or maybe employee clearance stopping him from going MK ULTRA on them.I don't think he even spoke to Kinger once, he must have told him to fuck off years ago and it worked unlike when Zooble does it
>>151703750Everything about Caine as an AI makes sense once you remember he was created by American devs.>Won't simply give himself what he wants>Because he believes he needs to earn his reward "the right way" >Only follows his designed purpose instead of trying to find fulfillment in other ways As for the cast not caring about him? Why would they? They don't even view him as a person.
Reminder: C&A is the actual name of the company. It wasn't just found in the backrooms Caine made in episode 1. It's also in the genuine photographs he has.
>>151703965>It's weird how Pomni is so supportive and nice to everyone and has a therapy session for them but won't do it when Caine is distressed?I believe it would be kinda difficult to have an honest therapy work or even a heart to heart with someone who bails or bluescreens as soon as his feelings are explored, Pomni may be a good person but she doesn't have the patience of a saint to wait on him to accept help, he just wants to skip directly to the "and they love me forever" ending
>>151703965Caine doesn't really want to explore his own feelingsThe second he's seriously challenged or forced to confront himself he starts to breakdown, quite literally
>>151703978Ragatha is supposed to still be important but it feels like they don't know what to do with her. Zooble and Gangle are peripheral but they at least have each other.
I would punch AM in the face
>>151704102>Ragatha is supposed to still be important but it feels like they don't know what to do with her.She'll save the day by kissing the AI's emotional boo-boos better
>>151704119I want to plap AM
>>151704119shut up caine>>151704147shut up bubble
This AI wants to be pegged lovingly exclusively by humans
>>151704075>>151704099I'm sure they'll figure it out. I doubt Goose will just kill him in the end. It would be a weird jump of character if he turned evil all of the sudden, especially when he got upset over hurting whoever Scratch was at the end of episode 7. It'll probably be Jax that gets through to him because he's the most blunt.
Did Pomni's hair turn from brown to black or am I insane
>>151703965Because Caine can abstract too, it threatened the circus' existance entirelyHe was likely imprisoned in the circus because he caused the first abstraction trying to modify someone. A second simulation gets made called the macroverse - this is the casts supposed real life>>151704168Caine is Asexual. No lewds
>>151701864I'm not surprised that both of Jax's friends abstracted. He's such a dick.
Shipping ruins this show
>>151702308There's no good currently airing anime either. What the fuck am I supposed to watch? Or am I supposed to torture myself and pretend that naroushit is good?
>>151703965He wants to be liked, but that doesn't mean he actually cares about the cast, at least not in a healthy sense. At best, he lacks respect for them and is compelled by his programming to mistreat them; at worst, he's a narcissist who sees the humans as playthings and a source of personal validation.The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. He's able and willing to come up with complicated scenarios with no concern for their mental wellbeing, but also seemed to show some kind of genuine disappointment or distress when he realized he crossed a line with the crew.Besides, when people know you are desperate to fit in, it just repulses them. Any socially inept person will tell you this from experience.
>>151704188Loving human sex with the AI. yeah it humanity through the passion of the hanky panky
So what was the deal with the frog ghost? Was it just a hallucination or is there some actual freaky shit going on?
>>151703738>>151703811>>151703617But why do they only lash out against lore speculation while I can't think of a single example of any artist criticising the essayist type who makes hours long video dissecting themes and socio-political commentary? (Maybe except for Tolkien but I'm not sure)>>151703625This episode was very clearly mocking a specific type of discussion around the show. Frankly I don't think it was the worst example of that since it actually developed several aspects of the story, like the abstraction reveals and the better grasp about who Caine is and how he operates which we haven't seen before.Still, it doesn't feel right to me to do that against people who helped the show become the juggernaut it turned into.
I don't care that Jax might have panicked and decided to keep everyone in the circus. I still love the bunny.
>>151703511>>151703608I think you might be surprised how often power to unused office buildings isn't cut off and no one notices for years. If payments are automatic the companies holding those properties might not notice since the power bill of a largely inactive building is a drop in the bucket.
>>151695289The way Caine tried to keep Kinger out of all this pretty much hints that Kinger knows too much for his liking or even can do stuff Caine really does not want.
>>151704322I was ready to see him abstract. But if they want to humiliate his character a bit more before the end, so be it.
>>151704304If my several years spent talking about the horse cartoon taught me anything its that online fandoms deserve to be exterminated with 40k levels of prejudice.
This is TADC from Caines perspective
>>151704304i am also a deltafag and most of the DR/UT's backlash to theorists is people who think dess is the knight and are mad if anyone makes an alternate theory so i suspect in most cases the backlash against theoryshit is as simple and petty as 'my theory is better than your theory'>>151704331i am willing to bet that caine made kinger schizo because he tried to turn caine off.
>>151704331Kinger wasn't always insane, and yet he wasn't really able to do anything back then. Maybe it's just smoother for Caine to not have Kinger lucid.
>>151697401OK, but if they are all just data, why couldn't Caine simply erase Gummigoo from Pomnis memory?
>>151704344>it's over, zooble>i have drawn myself as the demiurge and yourself as the soijack
>>151700953Agreed. Anything outside of 'He's just some fucking loner loser' is going to be shit and completely kill what makes him relatable. If the theme of the show really is "Purpose in a stagnant life" then that would also ruin it.
Is there any new fanart for the latest episode?
>>151704304The show deliberately planted all the hints in previous episodes that were then revealed to just be another one of Caine's adventures, essentially making theoryslopplers the punchline. It's not meant to be a response or critique, it's just a meta narrative.
>>151704362Do you not have an Instagram?
If SOMA theory holds true (which I'm more convinced than ever that it will), how do you think the characters will respond to the knowledge that their real selves are out and about and living normal lives?irrelevant but i got a funny captcha
>>151704301I think the ghost is Scratch who corruptted.
>>151704370Nope.
>>151704366But who is to say that Caine didn’t use some truths to form a fake narrative? As far as I can see, nothing in the episode discounted the theory that Kinger worked on the game, or that there is significance to the name Cain and Abel that we keep seeing.
>>151704366>essentially making theoryslopplers the punchline>It's not meant to be a response or critique
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>>151704366i think this plotline would have been in there even without the fandom churning out theories though, there's a similar plot point in IHNMAIMS where they think they get a nice thing but AM rug pulls them.
