What went wrong?
>>151717159hired a dude that couldn't even run convincingly
>>151717159Fat Batman, Shizo Flash, and ugly Supergirl.
>>151717159>Flash's first movie>adapt Flashpoint
just watch the YMS review
>>151717159Its box office.
>>151717159>Lead actor is a miscast, not bringing anything to the role. This is compounded by the fact that IRL he's a weirdo that became a nuisance to both the company and the entire state of Hawaii >First ever Flash movie, and they decide to do a mock up Flashpoint plot. Not a good idea, should have been a simple origin story but that was out the window because of the DCEU as a whole>Movie had zero faith in Ezra and the lead character, so it was just a vehicle to push Burton Batman and other worthless references/Easter Eggs as a means to get asses in seats. Essentially Spider-Man No Way Home, only worse>A "homage" to the DCEU and past DC univereses/projects, but in the most poor way possible. People didnt even like the DCEU, and this was the final nail in the coffin. Not to mention they pissed off Reeves fans with that AI Superman bullshit. No, no one cares about the Nick Cage Superman nod either>No Flash villains.>Not doing anything interesting with speedster powers. It's all still just stupid slow motion scene padding bullshit>Nonsensical hard reboot to a film franchise that is now dead.No joke, this may be the "Green Lantern" of Flash where I fear the scarlet speedster may be benched for years before he ever gets another film. Hopefully the DCU can turn things around. Though I'm not sure if they'll go with Barry or Wally
>>151717177>ugly Supergirl.The fuck is wrong with you?
>>151717302DRUNK CHRIS PINE WITH A BLONDE WIG IS THE PINNACLE OF SUPERGIRL
>>151717159I genuinely liked The Supergirl and Batman part. Especially the Prison break.Actually enjoyed the final big fight at the end too, but the ending making it all mood ruins it a little.
>>151717342Both are hot.
>>151717290it took them 30 years to make this onepeople's entire careers began and ran for decades and ended at WB before the initial pitch mutated enough to get madenow WB is dead
>>151717370I fucking hate the suits Ezra got. Not like any suit would have fit him since he was a miscast, just saying both JL and The Flash outfits were terrible. Yet another case of the concept art looking better than what we got
>>151717430but do they have necc
>>151717434>now WB is deadHe said for the billionth time. The DCU isn't going anywhere (for now). Regardless of who ends up buying WB, everyone has pretty much allowed Gunn to do whatever now
>>151717447>doesn't like neckyou gay?
>>151717159Cinematography, plot, EZRA MILLER, the DCEU on life support, lacklustre member berries
The idea was doomed from the start, it was either just making fucking Flashpoint in Live Action just for Snyder to dip out of his own universe (basically he was planning to do his shit and exit out) while introducing Reverse Flash out of nowhere, shitton of revisions and this.I like the idea that Clooney cameo is meant to simbolice to the audience that the Flash ended up in the worst universe, because it was genuinely that bad
>>151717503It wasnt even Reverse Flash. It was just evil alt timeline Barry with a horrible costume
>>151717463what makes you think I don't like necc
>>151717290>First ever Flash movie, and they decide to do a mock up Flashpoint plot>Movie had zero faith in Ezra and the lead character, so it was just a vehicle to push Burton Batman and other worthless references/Easter Eggs as a means to get asses in seats. Essentially Spider-Man No Way Home, only worse>Nonsensical hard reboot to a film franchise that is now dead.It's even more insane than that.>Geoff Johns was heavily pushing his stuff for adaptations>WB also didn't want to continue the Snyderverse and wanted to avoid using Affleck and Cavill>They decided to do Flashpoint in order to:>>>Replace Affleck with Michael Keaton's Batman, for nostalgia points and to have him basically in MCU Nick Fury's role where he'd just do cameos to tie in the future DCEU films>>>Replace Cavill with Sasha Calle's Supergirl, that's part of the reason for reiterating Man of Steel in The Flash, but with Supergirl>>>set up Crisis on Infinite Earths to even further reset the DCEU down the line>Original ending would've reflected this as Barry finds universe is fixed at the end but now Supergirl and Keaton Batman are part of it>COVID happens but despite delays they film all of it (filming completed in 2021)>Then David Zaslav and Discovery took control of WB>Then Ezra Miller had his controversies>Zaslav looked at Batgirl and decided to shelve it>WB leadership that wanted to reboot DCEU with the Flash as is, got canned or eventually left>De Luca and Abdy were temporarily assigned to oversee DC films and they ordered a new ending filmed in September 2022 where it would show Keaton as Batman and Calle as Supergirl, but also Cavill as Superman and Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman.>Then James Gunn and Peter Safran were chosen to oversee DC films in October 2022 and Gunn and Safran ordered a new ending because the DeLuca/Abdy ending was promising something that they weren't going to go forward with (since they were rebooting completely), so now it had the Bat Clooney twist
>>151717844I don't want to sound like a Geoff Johns fanboy but it really feels like he was positioned to be a fall guy for the DCEU. He was given this bullshit creative consultant position, but really no one listened to him. The entire ship WB was helming lacked a "captain". I question how many directors/producers actually talked with one another between these projects. Zack Snyder was losing creative control, Whedon was brought in last minute to finish Justice League, and there was a laundry list of directors/writers that came and went from Flash.
>>151717159Ezra Miller is a creepy psychotic nutjob with more arrests than Hollywood credits and he can't even run without looking stupid as fuck. The so doesn't even have anything to do with Flash comics, it's based on a reboot that fans fucking hate and crammed with desperate cameos and everyone but Flash characters. No Zoom, no rogues, no Grodd. Just a big ugly as shit CGI blob mess. I can't fucking believe they're letting this guy direct a Batman movie, he should be directing car insurance commercials for the rest of his life.
>>151717159Everything
>>151717844Also I couldn't fit it in that list, but remember that Keaton was originally supposed to cameo in Aquaman 2 because it was originally intended to take place after The Flash. And he had a larger cameo in the shelved Batgirl movie.For some reason or other they decided Aquaman 2 should take place before the Flash movie and decided to have Affleck cameo instead. Then after all that mess they decided to ditch the cameo completely.And also in De Luca and Abdy version of the ending there also would've been a post-credits scene where Barry receives a transmission from Affleck, who's stuck in the Knightmare universe.
>>151717844I like how Gunn decided to end the DCEU on a joke.
>>151717996>For some reason or other they decided Aquaman 2 should take place before the Flash movieBut Aquaman 2 came out after the Flash movie.
>>151717435Eh, the Flashpoint suit was better than the fucking awful Justice League suit. I genuinely don't know what the hell they were doing there, it looked awful.
>>151718213It did, but that's how batshit insane the production decisions were. Originally they were gonna have it take place after Flash, with Keaton. Then they changed their minds and decided it would take place before Flash and scrapped the Keaton cameo to replace with a cameo from Affleck. Then after Gunn/Safran took over they decided to just ditch the cameo altogether because Gunn was gonna change the ending to have Clooney and reboot completely.
horrible cgi fights without any weighthorrible pacingworst supergirl EVER, last i checked shes blonde white girl, race swap actress has no charisma or skills to portray hersoulless and satanic use of CGI'd dead actorswhatever fuck it, everything in the movie was bad, no point listing all things.the flash and shazam 2 are the worst superhero movies ever made, people used to meme about Green lantern and Jonah Hex but those are Citizen Kane tier masterpieces compared to these recent DC turds.
>>151717159wb
>>151717159WB were asked to decide whether it is listening to the actual paying fans or do something else.Twice they chose something else, only the first time they were semi-raped by The mentioned paying fans And COVID-19 coinciding together into an extreme and very particular INEVITABLE demand.Now it is the Third time they were asked to decide and now there is No WB anymore as a result of their Two previous decisions so far, but The Paying Fans will get what they were asking for Both because IPs are now in the hands of someone else And also because AI will make it easier and easier for Anyone to create absolutely anything in terms of an Enjoyable capeshit that you just FEELING good while you experiencing it, even if it came from Your own {\S/} and without Any real effort.It is just how it is. This Is Rape World, bur also it WILL be better than that. For everyone. That is obviouS.
>>151719009The real Why of this image is : This is NOT blue and redThis is clearly NOT an S on his chest This is pair of red glovesThis boot on his left leg turned into wrong direction Unfamiliar elements of what "supposed" to Be => AAAAAA THIS IS NOT SUPERMAN = you have exactly Same FEELINGS as fictional made up people within first issues of Action Comics magazine where nobody knew about Superman or they never actually Saw him personally (and it was 1930s ie without internet) so All of them including fearless Lois and friendly firing (without knowing that he Is bulletproof ofc otherwise they would shoot at him) were Feeling Fear when they saw for the first time SUPERMAN! Despite that Action Comics #1 Also established that Within these stories Christian Cross and "God" and "Thank God!" Notions Already exist so it Isn't the unheard or Un-theorized Notion of Superpowers that scare them Or red cape (God => Christianity => many paintings of Saint George and Archangel Michael with red capes and even blue armor/clothing=> notion of Jesus ie infinite powers guy that doesn't just smite annoying people like Greek Gods would or like people with power Do like the police even within fictional SUPERMAN in Action Comics made-up world) but the unfamiliarity of elements.
>>151717996>there also would've been a post-credits scene where Barry receives a transmission from Affleck, who's stuck in the Knightmare universeSo that was their way of finishing that plot thread from BvS.
>>151719234>Finishing No, it was back when movie still had Cavill cameo And when Aquaman 2 had Batman cameo.ie finishing of SnyderVerse And DCEU continuation with Dwayne, and on the outskirts Safran and Gunn planned to overtake the company and restart it all with DCU , but "even" they couldn't do it so it became a half-assed Third option of DCU is just DCEU but you, the audience, have schizophrenia and 2+2=5 as seen with Peacemaker Season 1 end Season 2 start scene. And all this led to a total destruction of WB akin to Krypton and now You and me and WE all waiting until Superman part starts. Again. Never ending nothing ever ends and nothing ever happens. The original Chud self insert of a loser who is and Is actually triumphant in the Very end which becomes a begining and eventually an end. SUPERMAN! 2025
>>151717159Movie was fucked from the start having to follow up what was an already doomed movie continuity. Besides that, they just made this Barry way to fucking weird.
>>151717159All of it
>>151717177Batkeaton was old, but spry dude, get your eyes checked
>>151717290Doing origin stories is a mistake.No one should get origin stories unless it's absolutely necessary and it's really only absolutely necessary to do minimal amounts of it -I had issues with Gunn's movie but he did enough to tell Clark's basic story for someone - as if they existed - who doesn't know the basic specifics of Superman's origin.Most of the rest of your nonsense is just 'blah blah blah' not even worth the time to type out.
>>151717844man who fucking cares, why is people so stressed over the freaking actors, i barely care about continuity just tell me a good story or fuck off.
>>151717435
>>151717177>ugly Supergirl.you didn't get the memo. This is good now cause we hate Gunn or something
>>151722060What if I hate both?
>>151722080Then you're just an incel that the Snyderbros also hate
>>151722117WTF am I supposed to like then?
>>151717912Literally nobody wants to work for Warner bros. Not even Gunn, he turned them down initially, but then Disney fired him for being a bona fide pedophile, and so warner asked him a second time and he had to say yes.
>>151717159lots of things, things that were being reported on as they were going wrong. did you just not pay attention?
>>151717844>>151717290Also of note, when Barry arrives in the Schuverse, it's chronologically at the point of Dark Knight Returns
>>151717290There are glimmers of an interesting script in there. The whole idea of the two Barries where one is plagued by his grief and the other is a carefree idiot who has never known hardship. There's ALMOST a character study in there. It's just ruined by Ezra Miller being a fucking retard, and then taken much lower by the eventual third act twist that idiot Barry is actually evil black spikey flash, and then the plot is thrown into the reference dome and trainwrecked to a sudden, jarring emotional scene. Admittedly, Ezra does a good job in the supermarket scene, but it is bookended with retarded terrible CGI bullshit, and then a Batfleck reveal, and then his fucking tooth falling out.They had a half-formed thought about examining grief and regret and guilt and how that shapes a person into their present self, and a single emotional scene, and they fucked all of that up and strung it together with of the shittiest action and CGI of any capeshit movie released.
I thought it was pretty good.
>>151717159he's an evil sociopathic femboy cunt, for one
>>151722227And even WB are getting cold feet because he's bringing over the worst aspects of MCU films and creative culture
>>151722227>>151722700cool fanfic bro
>>151722227This is cope
>>151722743Like Netflix buying WBLike the Snyder Cut being real It Is cool fan fiction.....Aren't they all? Aren't You a fiction, a never Was, of your parents and people that Made you into YOU ? Do you feel it?
>>151717159Everything went wrong. It'd be better to list what went right.>keaton got a paycheck>supergirl>ezra's ass in the sluttiest superhero costume ever
>>151722642>femboyEzra doesn't even pass as a femboy. He's a twink at best.
>>151717159>"Hey kids, do you like or at least barely tolerate normal Ezra Miller? Well what if we had TWO Ezra Millers and one of them is acting extra annoying on purpose?"
>>151723793See >>151723793
>>151717159I'm bored by horror movies.I spent a lot of my teenage years on /b/ watching actual human and animal gore to the point where I'm completely numb to it.And yet the scene of corpse-puppeteering CGI George Reeves and Christopher Reeve has managed to got under my skin. I have no idea how it got past anybody involved without "isn't this a little fucked up?" being a question that was asked.
>>151724334>I have no idea how it got past anybody involved without "isn't this a little fucked up?" being a question that was asked.pigs need food, engines need coolant, and I'm supplying it all to them at a tidy profit
>>151724116See Me? Okay, I see Me. But do You FEEL me? What feelings did my writing invoke in you? Describe them.
>>151724442I feel your mom
>>151717159If Mike Adriano doesn't get Sasha Calle on the set of TrueAnal soon, I'm swearing off the entire medium.
>>151724600I don't think she would do it desu
>>151724334And then they get blown up.
>>151724508Where do you feel her? Describe your feeling and your rationale of the Reality of that feeling. I Know for a certain that you don't describe the present and last 29 years at Very least.
>>151721137Faggot
>>151724702Why are you so butthurt about people telling you that you are seething? Acting like an autist only proves them right
>>151724731I FEEL like you are too rude, even tho I Know that origin story is The most important story in capeshit, otherwise any character can be any character or any Version of that character. Barry Allen with speed force and dead mother as his motivation is closer to Siegel's original Superman and Luthor than to the original Barry Allen who is The Flash first and foremost because he was reading The Flash Comics while the main Happening of his origin happened.
>>151724881What makes you FEEL in second hand way about sensory experience my butt was put thru before you hit that Captcha and Post buttons? What makes you Feel enough to Think that it iS true enough for You to even write this to me? Can you explain it, please?
>>151724928>taking a expression in the literal senseStop man you are just barrasing yourselfAlso this is my last (you)
>>151724942>a typofuck
>>151724942>>151724956What made you feel that way, tho?
>>151717159It was doomed to fail. Way too many production issues that derailed everything. Maybe if the movie were released before pandemic it could have been decent.
>>151717177Supergirl and 89' Batman were the best parts of the movie.
>>151725043No, the Henry Cavill parts were. Released and unreleased.
>>151725047You didn't even watch the unreleased parts yet you do such a retarded claim.
>>151725107WOW! Well..darn, Anon... that was just...An educated guess .
>>151717159Pretty much everything. In the same way that having The Death of Superman AND The Dark Knight Returns as Superman's second and Batman's first movie respectively, having fucking Flashpoint be Flash's first standalone was fucking retarded.
>>151717290God I hope they just go with Wally because they've been writing him under Barry's name for years and my sister, a true Wally stan, is unbelievably fucking pissed over it.
>>151725272Anon...
>>151717290it not being a flash movie in hindsight was a good thingnow we can actually get a Flash movie one day with his entire supporting cast and villians untainted by a adaptation as terrible as this
>>151717996>>151718213>>151718332There was a brief period of time where it looked like Aquaman 2 was going to release before The Flash, and that's where the Affleck cameo came in.
>>151726089Are you writing yourself under your sister's name, Anon?
>>151727329Shit no she's more into DC than me, which is ironically my fault. I remembered that she had some level of fondness for Robin, showed her some of his emails from Gotham Knights, and before I knew it she had taken my Knightfall collection, devoured it, then blitzed through the whole damn DCAU while also going through every comic she could get her hands on from any era.Her underappreciated fave is Donna Troy.
>>151727257Sadly this
>>151728084the only real character tainted was Iris but i dont remember her having any speaking lines in the entire DCEU
>>151717159everything. it was never possible it would be good.
>>151728136That's because you didn't watch the Flash movie
I’m one of the only idiots on the planet to have watched this in theatres. But I liked it a lot (and I was expecting it to be hot garbage)Ezra Miller was really fucking good acting wise. It actually made good use of the annoying fast talking act, because when later on most of the movie has Ezra playing 18 year old Barry and 28 year old Barry, you visibly see the difference in maturity (especially since young Barry never lost his mom)I wasn’t wowed by the nostalgia bait stuff with Keaton but he was a fun older Batman.Supergirl was solid but also kind of a nothing characterGood attempt at flashpoint given they were tying together a “franchise” that was already crippled and didn’t have much to draw from in other movies Weirdly the part I thought was the worst was the opening, saving the babies. Weird plastic bat suit and the jokes. It was fun seeing all the team around especiallt Alfred, but odd vibes
>>151729506I wanted to watch in the cinema too
>>151721137>Doing origin stories is a mistake.Thinking you must do it is a mistake. But thinking you should never do it is also a mistake. Some origin stories are legitimately some of the stronger stories.
>>151723793If you had been actually paying attention to anything before Zaslav came on board, WB was already in a dire state because of the bad decisions made by WB management in the 2010s and the AT&T buyout (which added more debt on top of it).A lot of people were believing Zaslav was priming WB up to sell as far back as Zaslav's first year at WB, even before Gunn was chosen to lead the full slate of DC movies/TVThe real reason he's selling now is because David Ellison fucked up and showed his hand by saying Paramount was gonna buy WB, AND because WB has actually had a good year. >b-but SupermanSuperman wasn't their only movie. Even allowing for the copium claim that it flopped, WB had Minecraft, Sinners, Final Destination Bloodlines, F1, Weapons. Compare that against Paramount's 2025 films. Their biggest movie was Mission Impossible 8 but that was a $300-400 million movie with a box office total of $598 million due to COVID costs. Naked Gun made $102 million on a $42 million budget. Smurfs was a $58 million movie that got $120 million at the box office. Maybe Spongebob does well this week, I dunno. But really David Ellison should've been more focused on fixing Paramount first before doing any other buyouts
>>151717290>Lead actor is a miscast, not bringing anything to the role. That was Snyder wanting his version of Barry being completely different than CW Barry.>First ever Flash movie, and they decide to do a mock up Flashpoint plot. Not a good idea, should have been a simple origin story but that was out the window because of the DCEU as a whole.I don't think an origin story was necessary since Flash was already established as an active matehuman by that point, having a year one or year two type of story could have been a better choice. >Movie had zero faith in Ezra.You mean the new guys in charge had zero plans Ezra since Gunn was going to start anew with his Supes movie.>No Flash villains.By the time production started filming, there was no point in adding new characters unless they were going to be a one off thing.>Nonsensical hard reboot to a film franchise that is now dead.The saddest part is, no reboot happened, unless you count Barry encountering a different Batman by the time he is back in his home reality.
>>151717177>Ugly SupergirlAre you gay?
>>151717159They made her Kara Zor-El instead of Cir-El.
>>151717159wasting a return of the Michael Keaton Batman on this while also wasting the brilliant casting of Jeffrey Dean Morgan as Thomas Wayne. we could've had 2 cool movies instead we have 1 lame movie.
>>151717290Yeah and before 2013-2016 everyone thought that it is literally impossible to make a non-Batman commercially successful DC franchise AND with actual sequels and even win Oscar and anti-neocon libshit Razzies too, until Snyder and Ayer and Wan came , and then these retards thought it is VERY EASY and they Don't have to understand the Why and that's why none of them can make new non-Batman (or even The Batman and Joker 2) more successful than Snyder and Ayer stuff, and Wan by the time of Gunn's notes started to "pour" like a piss rain, he just "okay, yeah, whatever, I will delete Batman and yeah i will include that "very funny" scene where Aquababy is peeing on Arthur more than 1 time and that cockroach scene is "very funny" too just like you Peacemaker and Star Lord stuff my fellow James, whatever, good luck with your THE most famous THE Super-Hero making less than Aquaman back when I actually gave a fuck since Zack was still around, okay, you are really tall and big and I am very small asian guy, sure" And now WB is no more. It is just like Krypton, it is poetry, it rhymes, thank you George, braBo Bince, very cool. Kid named Finger. Hahaha, Bill? Dale? Hank?...Cavill???
>>151732277Fucking schizo your babble added nothing
>>151732277What the fuck are you talking about?
>>151732295But it all took nothing. Such is the actual and inevitable truth. >>151732389trvke, soon you will begin to undertstandt it, stvdi it , t4ach it t2oo
