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>>151728458
Huh? Isn't he old?
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>>151728464
Rumor is the film picks up after Endgame with Steve in the 40's, Doom going after him.
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>>151728476
But then how would he appear at the end of Endgame as an old man??
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>>151728458
>sequel ruins complety the happy ending of the previous movie
Every time
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>>151728542
It'd require a good explination that I don't think the retards at Disney are capable of thinkinh through well.
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>>151728542
They don’t care, they just want audiences to see it and say “hey it’s the thing I know!” This is what retards get for going to see Spiderslop: Memberberries and Deadpool vs Wolverslop
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>>151728458
Apparently real since even scoopers are implying it
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>>151728562
Absolutely nobody liked the way endgame ended. Not for any single character.

Thor, cap, Tony, hulk, widow, Hawkeye; it ruined every single character in order to set up replacements. Steve’s in particular was odious. Only Thor’s was worse.
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>>151728592
Tony and Steve were fine. Hulk's fine too since he's still around. Thor has been ruined since Ragnarok turned him into a retard.
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>>151728592
Every time they "nuh uh" the ending of a previous movie they devalue the collective franchise. These people saw the statwars eu and though "gold mine", but have/had no idea what it means for a fictional story to have a "universe".
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>>151728625
>i-i-it was all fine stop complaining about thing I love. Thing is good. Thing is life. Thing is love. Can’t wait to see next thing!
Shut up shill.
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>>151728642
I didn't say the movie was good, retard.
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>Reed isnt the main nemesis of Doom
DROPPED
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>>151728679
Brave to assume it'll be anything but Doom in name only
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>>151728679
it's been 30 movies and this and only now you realize they don't give a shit about the comics?
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>>151728679
>Steve is the protagonist
>Tony in green armor is the antagonist

BRAVO MARVEL
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>>151728651
>Don't worry, Peggy. I can do this all day.
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Bringing back the Russo brothers was a mistake. This movie is just gonna be more Rogers and Stark wank. That’s all they’ve ever known how to make.
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>>151728458
Trailer description:

• Steve arrives at his home, the same one seen at the end of ‘AVENGERS: ENDGAME’.

• He steps off his motorcycle, places his helmet on the bike, and walks toward the house.

• The scene cuts to Steve holding his Endgame suit, almost as if he is considering suiting up again.

• Another shot shows Steve holding his baby and smiling.

• The screen fades to black. Text appears reading “Steve Rogers will return in Avengers: Doomsday.”

• The final shot reveals a countdown timer leading to the film’s release.
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>>151728708
It’s simultaneously tragic and hilarious how everyone throughout the 2010’s screamed for Doctor Doom’s film rights to go back to Marvel and get out of the hands of le heckin evil and not wholesome chungus 20th Century Fox, and then this is what they do with the character - demoting him to a Tony Stark variant who hates Captain America.
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I hope they can get Michael Keaton Batman back
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>>151728625
None of the Thor movies are good. Thor 1 is boring, Dark World is dogshit, Ragnarok is dogshit, Love and Thunder gives me secondhand embarrassment for everyone involved. The only time Thor was ever good was Infinity War.
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>>151728458
WHAT
ARE
NEXT?
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>>151728633
>These people saw the Star Wars EU and thought, “Gold mine.”
No they didn’t lol Disney threw the EU away
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>>151728579
Sorry for not watching absolute dogshit with characters nobody gives a fuck about like Kamala Khan and the Eternals, Rajeesh.
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>>151728918
>Spider-Verse: electric boogaloo
>Deadpool vs. Wolverine vs. Blade
>Iron Man 4 starring an AI version of RDJ
>Geriatric X-Men: Xavier vs. Magneto (again)
>Captain America: Steve Rogers - The return of Thanos
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It's depressing when you realize how old the MCU is.
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>>151728562
endgame was a mistake and i’m glad they’re undoing it. that movie should have been called “infinity crusade”. they shot themselves in the foot writing and marketing it as the culmination of the MCU especially when they knew they were gonna keep going. they totally fucked themselves with it and i think they finally realized it.
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>>151728696
I was cautiously optimistic thinking they timed the Fantastic Four reboot movie to line up with next Avengers and use Reed as a temp leader or something to bridge the gap to fight Doom since the Avengers as a team literally doesnt exist and everyones scattered without any structure since this entire phase has been a clusterfuck. I did not expect them to circumvent this entirely by directly following up Endgame like none of this phase ever even happened.
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>>151728948
Better than Eternals 2: The Quest to Lose More Money. I’ll take Fox X-Men returning over whatever garbage woke trash they end up doing with the reboot.
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>>151728833
>The Russo's and McFeely's "great idea that convinced them to come back" was just a reskinned Civil War
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>>151728860
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP
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>>151728948
>geriatric x-men
those fox movies are better than anything you like. cry about it.
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>>151728679
I think Doom and Reed will have a beef based solely on the fact that he kidnapped his literal son.
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>>151728980
FF was already set in place back when Avengers 5 was The Kang Dynasty, film to which, as confirmed by the writer of that version, FF was not connected at all (infact neither them nor the X-Men were going to be in it). It releasing next to Doomsday is a leftover of the original plan; if First Steps felt weirdly self-contained it was because that was always the intention of that film, before Feige changed gears to the clusterfuck they're making right now.
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>>151729010
When did I say they were bad retard.
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>Rob Reiner died violently for this
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>>151729031
That’s not enough. They should a deep-rooted rivalry from their college days. If this is the first meeting of Reed and Doom, they have shit the bed on a colossal level.
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>>151728948
I can't wait to see how AI is going to touch up Stewart, McKellen, Grammar, and Berry.
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>>151728968
they dont actually plan that far ahead the entire approach has been to do cliffhangers that just sorta "feel right" and let the next guy do whatever with it. If you look at all the post credits scenes most of them were not followed up on or they had one scene jokingly retcon them or they avoid doing what it would have implied altogether. The only thing that gave the illusion of a plan was teasing Thanos but it only worked cus they didnt specifically imply he would do anything they left it vague that he would just arrive as a boss fight. I think the weight of plot and continuity became too much to balance with the usual dismissive approach and they just assumed they cant/wont fail cus too big to fail.
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>>151728980
Reed is going to be the leader. They're going to reboot everything after Secret Wars anyway, so they might actually honor the relationships in the comics.
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>>151728592
>Absolutely nobody liked the way endgame ended. Not for any single character.
Shut up retard.
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>>151729031
>>151729074
I hope so man I just dont know what to make of Steve being protagonist. But I really liked Civil War and Infinity War I hope it works out.
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>>151729048
it’s natural to assume someone insulting those old x-men cast members is a raving MCU fanboy who shits on the fox movies. if i’m wrong, i apologize.
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>>151729066
Latveria is already shown to be established in the f4verse so I don't think this is the case
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>>151729053
SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!
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>>151729071
Yeah, when you dig deep into the production of the Infinity saga you realize a large chunk of it was made up on the fly. It mostly worked back then since they weren't making so many projects at a time and so could run the whole operation with a more hands-on capacity.
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>>151729093
Thanks for the comprehension and yeah, I can see that since MCU shills for years shat on the films not made by Disney.
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>>151729097
You underestimate how little Joe and Anthony Russo give a shit about properly adapting villains. I doubt they even watched or took notes from First Steps.
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>>151729121
If you compare Xmen Apocalypse and last Fantastic Four fox reboot they were not any better than mcu quality wise. Just saying.
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The trailer has been leaked. Anyone got it?
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>>151729070
>Deaged Xavier from Origins Wolverine flashbacks
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>>151729147
yeah, go to meatspin.com
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>>151729134
Of course they had duds but they also had good projects.
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>>151729121
they still continue to do it. disney has created a cult with the MCU, specifically marvel studios, full of retards who treat everything outside of it like it doesn’t exist and if you bring it up, it’s automatically bad no matter what. they even did this with daredevil and the old netflix shows because feige didn’t produce them. they do this anymore though, since mickey mouse officially told them they’re canon. it’s really bad.
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>>151729134
>>151729168
make no mistake, fox made some terrible movies, but they’ve made the best marvel movies, too. X2, DOFP, Logan, etc.
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>>151729168
Yea but towards the end they were mostly duds. And I shouldnt have to remind you the executives tried to bury Deadpool for almost like a decade and would not have ever released it until the leaker released the test footage. Would disney mcu have released it? Certainly not but its embarrassing and indicative of how Fox treated the characters.
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>>151729187
First Class was pretty good too
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>>151729187
>X2, DOFP, Logan, etc.
Only those three and First Class
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>>151729159
Yo, what's your mama doing there? Yikes!
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>>151728458
lol it leaked
https://xcancel.com/ProjectHurts/status/2000606511903486359#m
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>>151729311
IT GLEAKED IT GLEAKED
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>>151729311
I thought they would make an actual effort in making people excited again. Sigh.
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>>151729311
Might as well put it here before it gets DMCA'd
https://files.catbox.moe/ybz3ct.mp4
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>>151728927
>Disney
Lol
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Boseman dying and Majors getting arrested cursed the MCU real hard lol.
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>>151729071
>>151729104
All movies are made like this.
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>>151728458
This all could have been avoided if they just re-cast Black Panther instead of treating Chadwick Boseman like the prophet Mohammad
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>>151729446
>white people not letting a dead man rest

Classic.
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>>151729439
Yes, but it has to be more common knowledge given a lot of people unironically believe the general story was planned since IM1.
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>>151729456
It’s a business brother you gotta get over it
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>>151728458
>"muh nostalgia baiting"
>for a 6 year old movie
based retard
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>>151729552
Bringing back a character people actually like and care about instead of shilling Kamala Khan is nostalgia-baiting. Don’t you know?
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>>151729031
Dude Doom and Reed beefing for years not just for Franklin Hickman must be rolling in his bed
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I have Tony vs Steve fatigue
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>>151729639
I have fatigue fatigue
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>>151729552
I've seen worse. The whole cartoon community pulled the nostalgia card when people didn't like Legend of Korra.
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At this point why not use Superior Iron Man?
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>>151729703
Not as attention grabbing as Doom
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>>151729726
But none of Doom's movies did that well?
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>>151729739
THIS ONE WILL DO
TRUST THE PLAN
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>>151729703
>>151729726
>>151729739
>RDJ almost got cast as Doom in 2005 FF
>Feige was a producer on that film
>The entire multiverse saga is an ego stroke for him over the pre-MCU films he worked on
>He always had that Doom RDJ thing on the back of his mind
>Franchise loses popularity so he goes all in with his retarded fanfic to regain attention
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>>151729795
Johnny Depp screen-tested for Banner in Ang Lee’s Hulk, which Feige produced. Are we gonna have him show up as Maestro for no reason?
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>>151728833
Marvel/Disney does not know what else to do at this point. They are smashing the nostalgia button hard because nothing released since Endgame has been successful.
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>>151729855
Spider-Man: Far From Home came out a couple months after Endgame and made a billion dollars KEK you retard
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>>151729855
>oh muh endgame
enough already. that movie was trash. get the fuck over it ffs
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I remember Hickman setting up Tony vs Steve during his entire run, then quickly finishing it under one arc and immediately moving to Secret-actually-stealth-Fantastic-Four-arc-event-Wars
if the movie expands on that, that's fine for me
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Please let this flop, we can't allow this to be successful.
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>>151729960
who's we?
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>>151729835
Wouldn't surprise me desu
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>>151729964
Everyone who's still got a soul.
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>>151729964
the Beyonders
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>>151729960
Normies will ate this shit up. NWH and D&W both had paper thin plots and were shot like fucking streaming films but the cameobait got them to a billion dollars.
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>>151728458
fantastic four bros...........
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>>151729980
It's got to get old for them at some point. People have to be better than dogs....
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>>151729983
they're like the 3rd protag group Anon, they'll probably get their own trailer
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MY HEROOO!!!
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>>151728542
Doom zaps him with an oldmanification ray and yeets his ass back to the Sacred Timeline.
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>>151729983
We can join Iron Man and Adam Warlock fans on getting our favs getting cucked from fighting their archenemy
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>>151730004
Apparently, the main characters are Cap, Thor and Doom.
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>>151728458
https://fixupx.com/Roshan88805565/status/2000607074728952044?s=20
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>>151729980
NWH and D&W had likeable characters, this has Anthony Mackie, Brie Larson and the pajeeta.
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>>151730016
>fucks up the timeline and gets away with it
he would've have been hunted down in DC like a dog for this
>>151730037
not surprised, in my head it's
>Avengers
>F4
>maybe they'll do something significant with the cameo X-Men
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I'm just thinking about how ass this movie is going to look based on the post-credit scenes from F4 and Thunderbolts.
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>>151730104
Like we are going to get ripped in half to establish a new threat.
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>>151728679
Blame Floptastic Four: First Flops
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>>151730145
so we're just forgetting IW, Endgame and any other multiverse-adjacent movies huh
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If this post gets 1,000,000 updoots, I’m gonna shove a 4K blu-ray copy of Marvel Studios’ Avengers: Endgame up my ass! I’m gonna crush up a 4K blu-ray copy or Marvel Studios’ Avengers Endgame into a smoothie and drink it!
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>>151729439
No not all movies do post credit teasers that hint at obscure comic characters and comic arcs that will potentially be adapted im sorry that your autism cant handle this reality.
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>>151730185
No, I'm pretty sure anon is taking how bad these are into consideration.
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>>151730174
this sucks because i really liked that movie a lot and thought it was a breath of fresh air from the standard MCU tone. It felt like it wasn’t made in a factory, unlike Thunderbolts
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>>151730174
What this graph tells me is that there should be more black superhero marvel projects.
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>>151730004
>>151730037
The thought of Fantastic Four getting downgraded in a film featuring Doctor Doom because their own film underperformed is quite funny. Moreso because the possibility is real, since we've had numerous reports of films like Doomsday being shot without a complete script in hand.
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>>151730219
I liked Thunderbolts.
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>>151730201
>he missed the credits scene in No Country for Old Men that says “Anton Chigurh will return”
Lol what an idiot!
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>>151730174
>all bottom 5 had female leads
Must be a coincidence.
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>>151730230
>The thought of Fantastic Four getting downgraded in a film featuring Doctor Doom
they had three movies like that and almost all media under the stars, I'll take it
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>>151730219
>>151730230
Filming on Doomsday was done before FF was released on streaming tho.
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>>151730249
Top 1 had a female lead too, your point?
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>>151730223
Black Widow is in second last. Black Knight's movie is canned.
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>>151730235
It was fine but it was dull and it would’ve been nice if they had Zemo so they could at least pretend it was based on Thunderbolts. It gets glazed too much. It’s a 6/10 movie people pretend is a 9.
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>>151730271
Actually, it was about wanking a corpse.
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>>151730235
I wanna cuddle Yelena
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>>151730267
FF underperformed in theaters first.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2025/07/28/fantastic-four-underwhelms-superman-soars-higher-at-box-office/
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>>151730276
At least 10% of the group's conceptual DNA is Freedom Force somehow so don't worry about it.
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>>151730276
NOOOOOOOO don’t you get it? They talk about their feelings and hug each other at the end. It’s the bestest MCU movie in the whole wide world! They’re on the Wheaties box!
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>>151730223
yeah...
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>>151730271
*Top 3
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>>151730288
>underperformed when it's less than 100m from Superman, which had a higher production cost
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>>151730288
They had shot most of their scenes by August too
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>>151730302
Glad this shit isn’t happening. Mahershala Ali is already in the MCU and he is Cottonmouth. Fuck Feige for trying to erase the Netflix shows. Luckily karma bit him in the ass and he changed his mind.
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>>151730185
Visually those looked terrible too, remember the final Endgame fight in the smoke dimension where everything looked brown?
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>>151730324
>trying to erase the Netflix shows
I wish he did. Fuck you.
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>>151730324
Don't Sersi and Minn-Erva have the same actress?
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>>151730312
Both films grossing over half of their runs on the U.S shows how done international markets are with capeshit.
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>>151730312
They both did terrible, the only difference is WB hung on to that failure because of the buyout.
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>>151729980
>but the cameobait got them to a billion dollars.
Too bad D&W had a budget of $534 mil, so it barely went above the breaking even point. Barely any profit was made.
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They have no idea what they are doing
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>>151728458
Also from the teaser. Each trailer ends with a countdown for the film.
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>>151730334
No, fuck you. I know Iron Fist was bad and Punisher was Surf Dracula but Daredevil was literally the best thing the MCU ever produced and getting rid of the other shows means that is erased, too. The fact Feige wanted to ignore those shows and make his own gay version and almost got his wish makes me want to vomit
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>>151728458
I really hope they can permanently move on from multiverse slop after this. Nobody is enjoying this except bottom of the barrel slop guzzling retards
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>>151730310
Nah
>BPWF - Shuri
>GOTG 3 - Rocket
>DS2 - Strange
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>>151730342
It’s easier to differentiate an actress who is playing a regular Asian woman and a blue alien than a black man who just has a pair of sunglasses on him.
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>>151730368
If Jessica Jones gets erased from existence, Daredevil being sacrificed is something I'm perfectly comfortable with.
>the best thing the MCU ever produced
That's not a particularly high bar by the way.
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>>151729726
Doom really isn’t as popular as you guys like to think
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>>151730375
Apparently they decided to speedrun the saga around 2023 since they realized it wasn't working. Phase 6 will be the shortest with only 4 films (FF, BND, Doomsday & Secret Wars).
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>>151730376
>DS2 - Strange
LMAO, HE ACTUALLY BELIEVES THAT
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>>151730366
>19 weeks
Uhhh isnt that like May or June?
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>>151730366
>trailer
this was a scene.
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>>151730375
Keep spamming this so the Marvel Studios executives can be sure to add extra scenes of Kamala Khan, Carol Danvers, and Eternals just to make a salty retarded tranny on 4chan happy.
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>>151730398
>Daredevil being sacrificed is something I'm perfectly comfortable with.
I’m not. If you erase Daredevil then you might as well throw this entire universe into the trash.
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>>151730415
that's probably when the official trailer comes out. the trailer coming out after the 3 character scenes is the teaser trailer. Marvel is really anal and specific about their trailers. they release 3 trailers before the films release
>Teaser Trailer
>Official Trailer
>Final Trailer
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>>151730415
Yes, the countdown probably is for another reveal oor a proper trailer. My mistake.
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>>151730420
Nobody watched those either. I want PKD-inspired science fiction. Give me something like Blade Runner and Alien instead of a concept everyone’s been sick of from the very start
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>>151730412
He's the protagonist, he has the most screentime and the core theme of the movie is about him letting go of something he's not meant to have (the love of his life, which parallels Wanda who couldn't let go of her children)
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>>151730400
Maybe if they kept making X-Men movies they would get to the Brood.
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>>151730448
He's in the Spider-Man movie.
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>>151730438
Also something I'm comfortable with.
Fuck MCU and fuck Netflix shit.
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>>151730412
Why do you think Xousdgaopsakdhuoaspicgiudsfuhioaoasl needs to crash every single premiere available?
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>>151730440
but they were leaks saying we were getting special trailers every week until January
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>>151730460
He's a useless ballast, faggot. Barely a protagonist.
The movie is about America and Scarlet Witch.
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>>151730449
So I’m arguing with someone who can’t move on from the 1980’s. If you want Phillip K Dick slop, then fuck off. Why are you even in this thread lmao. You too much of a pussy to talk about Marvel on /tv/ without getting laughed off the board?
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>>151730448
>>151730469
He's in Secret Wars according to the concept art that leaked aerlier this year
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>>151728542
He kicked Dooms ass I guess.
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>>151730400
Neither was Thanos but both of them have the "cool sells" factor, which Kang loses just by his fucking name. Not even mentioning the crappy design.
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>>151730476
The first three are scenes, the last one is the proper teaser
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>>151730481
America is known to be nothing but a plot device even by her "fans".
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>>151730510
Thanos had a decade of build up. Doom is a fascist despot written by people who don’t understand that and has 3 widely-panned movies
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>>151730400
i like how you simps keep saying this as if it’s an excuse to poorly adapt the character. “this isn’t popular so let’s shit on it instead of adapting it”. i hope they take something you like and make a movie that’s so inaccurate it’s basically whatever that property is in name only.
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>>151730539
Reddit. Go back there. Immediately.
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>>151730548
Doom is probably the best well-known Marvel villain overall so if he doesn't clear, I don't think anyone will.
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>>151730491
Cyberpunk 2077 was a huge success despite the rough launch it had. The Matrix is still regarded as one of the best science fiction films ever made. Nearly everyone has seen the Truman Show
There is a huge appetite for this stuff, and I will always believe Marvel can dig themselves out this whole if they tapped into it instead of doubling down on shit nobody wants to watch
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>>151730576
not according to the retard i was replying to, apparently
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>>151728464
Didn't we see Bruce invent an de-aging machine in Endgame?
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>>151730565
Been here longer than you, faggot
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>>151730537
Yeah, so is Doctor Strange in "his own" movie.
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>>151730581
Your best bet for something like that is Spider-Man 2099 and that’s Sony so maybe if Spider-Noir is successful then they’ll try that. Also
>Cyberpunk 2077
Shazam won.
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>>151730495
Those were pre-Russo concepts.
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>>151730576
Venom was actually the most popular Marvel villain. Then Goblin and Ock. Then Magneto.
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>>151730539
3 widely-panned movies that didn’t properly do the character justice or even attempt to be accurate with him. It’s okay if Marvel Studios does that to him though, right?
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>>151730637
They said that but they have lied on the press tours of their previous MCU films.
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Joe Russo never recovered from meeting Frank Hassle in that Wal-Mart. He was probably shitting in his britches begging for Captain America to come save him.
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>>151730616
Not at all, he's a character. Buttugly has literally nothing outside the intro that survived how poorly she tested and the lesbo dimension bit, might as well not even exist.
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>>151730548
I think anon's point is that Doom isn't popular enough with normalfags to make turning him into 'Evil Iron Man' worth it.
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>>151730687
>still in denial
LMAO
Let me make it easy for your retarded brain to understand
Doctor Strange 2 is not a fucking Doctor Strange movie. He's a fucking ballast in it. Basically a plot device.
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>>151730713
Spamming this won't make it true. Cope.
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>>151730702
which doesn’t negate my point. your comment has done nothing but reinforce what i already know.
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>>151730713
You can cope as hard as you like, buttugly hasn't been on anything since, not even as reference, for a reason.
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So what do you guys think we'll see Thor doing in his teaser? Will they address he has an adopted daughter now?
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>>151730174
Didn't Black Widow drop at the same time on Disney+? Imagine doing worse than that.
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>>151730726
>>151730731
You're the only one coping, retard.
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>>151730713
I thought Strange 2 was a heaping pipe of shit but he didn’t have the movie stolen from him. He was still very much the main character.
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>>151730713
I didn't know wandaschizos were on 4chan
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>>151730738
>Will they address he has an adopted daughter now?

Probably. Seems to be a running theme in these movies.

>Steve has a kid
>Thor has a kid
>Reed has a kid
>Doom is partially motivated by the loss of his kid

Toss in Nathan Summers and it's an all daddy movie.
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are we allowed to simply not watch it?
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>NOOOOOOOOOO DOCTOR STRANGE 2 IS TOTALLY A DOCTOR STRANGE MOVIE
>HE'S TOTALLY A MAIN CHARACTER
>EVEN THOUGH HE DID FUCKING NOTHING BUT CHEER ON CHAVEZ AND GET KEKED
Lol. Lmao.
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>>151730774
NO

YOU MUST HATE IT
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>>151730758
Doom is not a “oh muh kids” character. Doom just wants to conquer everything. Just like Thanos is not an “oh muh planet” character. The Russo’s are hacks.
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>>151730754
>but he didn’t have the movie stolen from him. He was still very much the main character.
Pfffthahahahaha
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>>151730749
BW came out at a time when the MCU still had the audience's goodwill. All three of this year's movies came out when engagement witht the franchise is at it's all time lowest.
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>>151730776
That movie was garbage either way. Raimi fanboys need not apply. Movie didn’t even feel like it was directed by him, more like someone who was a big fan trying to ape his style.
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>>151730787
Rumours say he wants Franklin to replace his dead son.
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>>151730756
Those exist? Explains a lot.
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>>151730803
Because the movie was just a vehicle for le heckin cameos and a way for Feige to jerk off to Disassembled one more time because he's a retard with terrible taste. Bendis and his influence is the worst thing to happen to Marvel but I digress.
When people heard "Raimi's Doctor Strange" after Spider-Man 2, I assure you this garbage is definitely not what anybody had in mind.
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>>151730840
Zombie Strange and Wanda coming out of mirrors like a ghoul with a broken spine were cool, I just needed the entire movie to be that. Just wacky horror shit.
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They went on a meltdown when FF came out due to Franklin being more powerful than Wanda.
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I just wanted a normal fucking Doom adapted in the big screen
Why is it so hard
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>>151730510
>Doom
>Cool sells
He looks like the fucking tin man, doom will never ever be popular
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>>151730879
Let's not pretend the purple nigger that is Thanos looks even remotely cool.
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>>151730787
If the leaks are true you're getting both.
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>>151730878
You don’t get to have it. Apparently Doom isn’t popular enough with normies so that’s somehow an excuse to bastardize and fuck up the character because… MCU fanboyism.
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>>151730756
>muh wandafags
Rent free, retard.
God forbid somebody wants a Doctor Strange movie to be a Doctor Strange movie and not this slop.
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>mads mikkelsen was born to play doom
>nahh let's ask robert dj to do it instead
>but he doesn't look like doom at all
>no but he only wants 100x more money for the role haha
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>>151730972
I'd rather have Mikkelsen work on stuff like Dust Bunny over any MCU slop, thank you.
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>>151730756
why does wanda have any fans shes rey from the star wars sequels levels of bad
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>>151730920
you got tw0/three movies where he wasn't that great apparently, please understand
>>151730972
>muh Mads
yes Anon, I want Doom on screen for approximately 8 seconds across two movies, what an idea
>but he doesn't look like doom at all
that's what the mask is for
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>>151730991
He was in Doctor Strange 1
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>>151730999
'cause Lizzie a qt.
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>>151730999
you don't like hot schizo milfs Anon? personally I've never been into powerscalings
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I understand your frustration, but I don't understand why you all seem surprised.
MCU villains are all shit. Few decent ones are in the "okay at best, nothing worth remembering after the movie/show" category.
As much of a piece of slop NWH was, Dafoe blew pretty much every single MCU villain out of the water and he was a much less interesting character than he was in his own movie.
Doom being fucked over is expected.
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>>151731127
>Doom being fucked over is expected.
but i didn’t think it would be as bad as this, to where i now to have to say 20th fucking century fox did it better.
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>>151731127
>Few decent ones are in the "okay at best, nothing worth remembering after the movie/show" category.
Kingpin and Bullseye are both excellent
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>>151731149
>but i didn’t think it would be as bad as this
movie is going to be a Doomwank that'll port over to the next movie
you'll be fine
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>>151731168
>Kingpin and Bullseye
Coincidentally, none of them were made by Marvel Studios
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>>151731204
Bingo!
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>>151731204
*by Steven DeKnight of Spartacus fame and his team.
FTFY
All the other Marvel Television villains are fucking shit.
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>>151730878
Watch the 90s film
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I never cared much for MCU Kingpin and Bullseye.
They're whatever.
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>>151728927
They threw it away to make their own. They wanted a "universe" because it (supposedly) lets your branch out your ip in a lot of different directions. Lots of products carrying a premium because it has the right logo on it.
What they gloss over was the george perso ally approved everything himself at first and then him and some trusted people later on. All of the stories had to fall into his vision. The new trilogy is a great example of how not doing that kills a universe. Every movie had a different director and an isolated story. No one cared. No one liked starwars. Now this 4.5 billion dollar franchise is about to be shelved.
Marvel studios wanted to make a cinematic universe that they could milk forwver similar to how star wars enjoyed 40 years of endless profit. But they never had a single vision under which to keep anything from the start, let alone any desire to do so. Hence its a mess and the people who might have cared do not and the people who were never going to care are bored of superhero movies.
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>>151730654
I’ve never liked Doom in any incarnation and can’t wait for this version to flop too
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>>151728458
Holy fuck stop the capeshit already
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>>151730754
He spends the entire movie running away from Wanda until he finds the Book of I Win
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>>151730999
I have a friend who likes her, and when I asked him why, all he could say was her power level.
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>>151731679
>MCU is only surviving with the cameobait films, after they're done who knows if they'll get through
>DCU in uncertainty due to the Netflix buyout, after MoT no one knows for sure what will happen
Capeshitsisters....
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>>151731679
>>151731729
Leave this board then. What you’ve done is the equivalent of flying to Antarctica and then screaming at the civilians that you hate the snow. What are you even doing here? Expressing how much you hate superheroes? Take your “massive faggot” award and go use your energy to make a thread glazing whatever garbage you like instead.
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>>151731679
agreed, xister. bring on tranime and vidya slop instead.
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>>151731679
I like CapeKINO.
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>>151728679
Pedro pascal Reed is not a great leading role. In fact, the four themselves should always be the b list support for the bigger heroes
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>>151732663
Perlmutter lost.
Inhumans lost.
(You) lost.
Don’t like the Fantastic Four? You don’t like Marvel. They’re the most important characters in Marvel Comics. There would be no Spider-Man, Hulk, or Iron Man without them.
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>>151732663
Frankly it would be easier and better business to kill them off and recast. Sexy, white, WHITE, Americans. Not Hispanic, not British. American. And white. Not light skinned Hispanic, or light skinned black or pajeet or blah blah blah. Both Susan RICHARDS and Johnny Storm should be blonde. Not people who had to dye their hair. White sexy American blonde haired. American. Hot sexy. White.

Grim should have a gritty voice. Gravely.

Reed needs to be white. Professorial and white.

None of them should have facial hair of any kind. Not a beard, not a mustache. Nothing. No facial hair.

And again, white. White white white.
And sexy. We should see Johnny shirtless. We should drool over Susan’s sweater puppies. Women and queers should want to see reeds massive stretchy cock. Women should want to fuck human-form Ben and feel bad that he’s a Thing now.

And we should see the origin.

But above all white, American, younger, hotter.
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>>151733250
>Perlmutter lost.
>Inhumans lost.
>(You) lost.
FF also lost. No one gives two shits about the First Family anymore. Marvel waited too long to do anything with them after getting the rights back
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>>151733254
There are coming out parties that are straighter than this
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>>151728458
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>>151733250
The last few years really proved Ike the Kike right.
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>>151733630
Yes wanting Susan Richards to be sexy and use her husbands last name is totally gay. Understanding that cape shit did better when women could ogle the male leads like they did in every shirtless phase 1 and 2nis totally gay. Wanting straight white Americans is totally gay.

Kill yourself faggot.
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>>151733878
>I need my shirtless tall muscular men on screen!
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>>151733650
for a 6 year old movie? why are you retarded on purpose
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>>151733935
As long as theyre straight white Americans under the age of 40 with no facial hair? Yes.

Now grab a camera and stream your suicide for us. Shirtless if you like.
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I hope Cap's baby fights Franklin and its a toddler death match
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>>151733619
>>151733750
obviously not considering how popular the F4 in marvel rivals are. stay mad, doom cucks.
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>>151734345
You mean bimbo Susan and bimbo Susan alone.
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>>151734359
that game singlehandedly saved reed richards’s reputation and presented him as a total gigachad with namor being the incel simp. keep seething.
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>>151734370
No one even knows what a Namor is, listen to yourself.
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>>151728562
Now it's mandatory if the characters are liked by straight white males.
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>>151734379
you lost :)
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>>151734379
Way to completely out yourself as a total fucking normie. Stay on Reddit perhaps?
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>>151734345
Rivals fans give MCU shills a run for their money in terms of knowing jackshit about the source material
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>>151734430
>average x-fag reading comprehension
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>>151734315
kek, that's one way of adapting Skottie Young's covers to the big screen.
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>>151733250
They’re antiquated as fuck, homie. Marvel needs to do a lot of course correcting if they want to get young adult men back into these movies
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>>151728846
Where's the dance party?
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Only this neckbeard infested shithole thinks Doom is le greatest comic villain ever, normies don’t give two shits about him.
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>>151734461
Rival fans don’t hide the fact that they’re only there for fap material
I’ve never played it, but I’ll take that version over the bogged one in the MCU
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>>151734496
The only way capeshit can appeal to kids anymore is by editing the films like a fucking tiktok reel
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>>151734519
Go back to r/marvelstudios and stay there, please
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>>151734523
>I’ve never played it
So you concede that you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about and you should probably shut the fuck up.
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>>151734461
Yet you can’t name a single example of this happening. Really makes one wonder who could be behind your post… oh yeah, a fucking MCU shill.
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>>151730312
We won't know the real production cost of F4 for a while.
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>>151734653
The budget for The Force Awakens was revealed only last year so it's gonna be long before we know how any of this movies really cost. The one I want to know is BNW since it was shot twice.
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>>151728542
major avengers doomsday spoiler
the good guys beat dr doom and save the day
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>>151734655
The post I’m replying to (which I assume is your retardation) is literally that image. You’re saying Rivals fans are as clueless as MCU fanboys yet you can’t show me one Rivals fan who’s even as remotely as dumb as the average MCU watcher.
So which one do you prefer, “Trolling outside of /b/“ or “This post is extremely low quality”?
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>>151730366
19 Weeks
29 Days
What sort of framing is that?
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>>151734777
That image is an upscale of the recording. Some people are debating wether it really says 19 weeks or if it says 11 months, which would be a direct countdown to the film's release.
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>>151729066
Of all of the abhorrent, detestable and DESPICABLE ruining of the comics they have been doing for years, drawing the line here feels redudant. They turned their biggest character EVER into a Tony Stark twink slave. Maybe RDJ should've overdosed after all.
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>>151728458
>that green filter
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>>151734221
6 years are a huge swarth of time for people who exist in the world and have lives. Not no-life losers like you who are middle aged and still behave like they're 19 and go
>OH MY HECKIN 90'S
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>>151730448
Hulk-sama, we have failed you..
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>>151728458
They're desperately trying to replicate the Infinity War/Endgame levels of hype and it's just not gonna happen.
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>>151728458
I thought Chris Evans was done with the MCU
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>>151730754
Strange was the main character but he didn’t do anything, he just ran away while Wanda murdered people, and no matter how many times they told us what his arc was supposed to be, it didn’t exist.

Wanda wasn’t the main character either because she was brainwashed by a magic book until she suddenly turned good again for no reason, so she basically wasn’t in the story at all except as a killing machine.

The main character was Raimi and there were no other characters in it, just props.
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>>151730756
There's that one anon who drops a wall of text every time someone suggests that Magneto being Wanda's dad was a good idea, and who goes after every critic of the retcon.
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>>151730999
Wanda is popular because like the comics version she’s basically a romance character with superpowers. She can’t punch or kick, her dream is to be part of a suburban family and she’s prone to make stupid mistakes.

This is pretty unusual for a woman in the MCU, which explains both why she’s more popular than the stoic badasses they planned to be their flagship heroines, and why it didn’t occur to them that she was popular until after it was too late to change their plans.

They seemed to be trying to hit some similar notes with Sue (if only because they gave the film to the WandaVision director), but no 2020s MCU character can ever be as popular as the ones introduced in the ancient 2010s.
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>>151728679
No one left the theater wanting to be like or emulate Pedro Pascal's Reed. Marvel Rivals' design team continues to be the only reason the F4 is included in any conversation and not capitalizing off of the immense good will that game as brought the IP is yet another fumble for the franchise.
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>>151734345
>marvel rivals
It's December (new hero drop weekend) and I'm still pulling bot lobbies in quick play after one single loss. Playerbase is a ghost town right now.
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>>151734893
This movie will flop. All the marketing gimmicks in the world couldn't make it a success. Too much ground to cover and no actual big names.
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>>151728458
Can you really be nostalgic for something so recent? I have shoes older than the MCU.
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Sentry was pretty good in Thunderbolts which is a huge surprise except some fuckery with his powers but they portrayed his battle power satisfyingly. Only for him to job to Dr. Doom played by RDJ. What a waste!
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>>151734905
>6 years are a huge swarth of time for people who exist in the world and have lives.
not really, to them it feels like any of this happened yesterday, bonus point if they didn't count the years
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>>151735144
Funny how people keep memeing 2000 Reed. I haven't yet seen one single gif or image with Pascal Reed.
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>>151734345
>Sue design is popular with coomers
Yeah that means jackshit when it comes to people actually caring about FF. I'm sure Rivals She-Hulk will get a lot of porn too, that doesn't mean the show and the recent comics are well received
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>>151734587
I've seen enough threads and tiktoks to know most people who are into it are jerking it to Emma and Sue
I don't give a shit about hero shooters at all
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>>151730637
>Those were pre-Russo concepts.
so who was going to direct these movies between Kang getting replaced by Doom and the Russos coming back? I think it's waste of time doing concept arts when you don't have neither a script nor a director attached to the project. Yet again it's not like Marvel has debunked leaks before only to reveal later on they were true all along.

The only reason the current teaser is getting DMCA'd is because Disney is hoping these will get them more money for Avatar. Imagine pushing a dead franchise with hype of another dead franchise.
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>>151735123
They should have had people try and suicide bomb to kill Vision and then have another make moves on her man. Then she could be bitchier and get more accurate attempted results.
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>>151735924
They talked to Shawn Levy (D&W) to direct but he passed in it due to compromises with Stranger Things and his upcoming SW film.
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>>151736053
*passed on
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>>151735313
Beings more cosmic than Sentry have been under Doom's foot. Sentry was pimped by the Green fucking Goblin.
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>>151736044
I understood those references and yet I was born too late to read 1970s Avengers comics at the right age, what am I doing with my life.
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>>151736251
Reading older Avengers comics apparently.
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you have to be dumb as fuck to think he and others where not going to be in this movie like brain dead shit
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>>151734892

>Maybe RDJ should've overdosed after all

Whoppers with cheese are fucking delicious and magistral idk what was him on that day.
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>>151729575
Bringing back a character with a completed arc that is supposed to be dead because you failed to introduce any likeable or well-written characters in their wake for 6 years and are in desperate need of audience engagement is indeed nostalgia-baiting, yes.
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>>151728968
The problem is they used it as a send off for everything and everyone the “evil meanie manchildren CHUDs” they relied on and used it as a chance to set up an all new all different, legacy line up.

Then they spent more than half a decade simultaneously shitting on those evil meanie CHUDs for not coming to their movies while also calling them crazy for calling it the MsheU
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>>151734968
They drove a dump truck full of money to his house
If RDJ is getting 100 million to be in 2 movies, the Chrises shouldn't be that far behind



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