Anyone else feel kinda bored about absolute batman jonkler?
>>151740382>Anyone else feel kinda bored about absolute batmanabsolutely
i dunno he just seems like another bane type of enemy going purely on the "sheer brutality" factor to be menacingok he harvests new borns for stemcells or some shit to keep him basically immortal from aging, where's the joke? where's the funny!
>>151740391i miss when jonkler was funny... heh even in tdk he was kinda funny you know
I got bored of Absolute in general some time ago. They aren't interested in exploring the interesting aspects of the stories they made. Seems like they only want to focus on the shittier parts of the stories and make a tasteless mess of slop.
>>151740382I am just hoping Jonkler isn't literally a demon and it's all metaphorical.
>>151740400>harvey harvey harvey dent- oh scuse me i wanna drive
>>151740424sorry to burst your hopes anon but nope, jonkler is indeed just another generic monster, hes basically just a weird adaptation of dracula they even have him with his "human" form and "true" form like a fucking vampire, this shit is so lame
>>151740550What would be better, then? A corrupt businessman? What would have been different, cool?
>>151740550I hate this.>>151740606>What would be better, then? A corrupt businessman?Unironically a restrained white collar criminal that has a sadistic and twisted sense of humour would have been miles better.
>>151740606anything besides another grotesque monster enemy, imagine if the joker is an actual nobody in this world because his ability is that once people turn away from him they instantly forget every interaction with him for the past hour causing the joker to be this mystery figure and he does heinous shit for the most retarded punchlines just because that would have been way better than just another monster enemy, it would have made for a much more interesting story and highlight Batman's detective side toobut right now? this weird fusion of dracula and joker is just.. zzzzzzzzz
>>151740550Bro thinks it's genocyber.
>>151740606a trillionaire comedian who runs an everything comedy related conglomerate
>>151740382I'm bored of Joker period. I'd much prefer 60s Adam West Joker than another edgy serial killer Joker.
>>151740424I would've preferred ambiguity, personally.Never specify anything directly but make it seem that Joker may not be completely human without making blatant.I guess that would be too subtle for Snyder though.
>>151740919He's been wanting to do actual demon Joker for life a decade. Not surprising he jumped at the chance here.
>>151740646basically forget me not? but only erases 1hour?that would be pretty interesting power for joker to have, he would do unspeakable things with that
>>151740382so he's just gonna be eating people and babies, then why the fuck is he called joker? where's the joke??
>>151741512That people still pay real money for comic books, I guess
>>151740382I'll never understand the boner that some writers have for him, he's just a clown that haven't been funny or scary for decades
>>151741699Coulrophobia and "We Live In A Society" have become such intense memes, not to mention how Joker has basically had the most success in terms of fucking with Batman according to storylines past. Every writer wants to one-up their predecessors in some way, so naturally they want their Joker to one-up the previous ones.
Ngl, I am enjoying seeing people finally taking their hype blinders off and admitting there is nothing amazing about this comic. It’s flashy, wowie wow wow wow. So what, people get bored with that after a while, especially when you mixed in all this baseless hype
>>151741725>Absolute batman>Monster enemy>Monster enemy>Grotesque monster enemy>White supremacist? For some reasonWow what an imaginative comic, seriously joker was their chance to do something different like what anon>>151740646 said
They literally turned Joker into Clown/Violator. Yeah it's boring.
>>151740382so he's just fucking Stephen king's IT???
>>151740382Of course. As predicted, he's a total anticlimax after Bane. Part of that is that Bane was unexpectedly good and fun and the other part is that jonkler is just kinda underwhelming on his own for what is meant to be THE Batman villain.
>>151740382Absolute Joker should be shapeshifter, not another grotesque muscle freak (if in this universe everyone mutant then catwoman should be muscular sexy anthro cat or were-cat, but not just black girl).The Shapeshifter Joker makes more sense because it explains the mystery of his origin and makes him more dangerous since it is unknown what he (or she/it) looks like and where he (or she/it) might be.
>>151740382What part of this screams "joker" seriously?? He's just a generic monster who eats people... Like killer croc... Bruh
>>151740382>>151742171I forget how the sophisticated the adult superhero-comic reading audience is.
>>151740382>White Man . . . BAD!um kino much?!? how'd they come up with this?
>>151740382He was scarier in Absolute Evil
>>151742171You see white supremacist was a white monster because he drank white monster which is peddled by condiment king who is a metaphore for fast food industry
>>151740382I think he's neat
>>151740382With every other Absolute villain so far I get that it's the writers thinking, "ok let's take our current characters and pour on the edgy and grim like no tomorrow". Like it's their intention to make the Absolute universe one giant nightmare version of the normal DC universe but still recognisable as it's own thing.With Absolute Joker though it literally just feels like, "Hey guys, Pennywise from IT is pretty creepy, let's copy and paste him as Absolute Joker"
>>151743606none
>>151740400We all miss the real Joker.
>>151740382This is just ultimate Green Goblin all over again.
>>151744009So, pretty much the stupid Dark Multiverse shit, but Batkek isn't there.
>>151740424He is more like a Resident Evil villain.
>>151740400not just the joker, the nolan movies let bruce make jokes too
>>151740382no
>>151740382I don't mind him. But I liked the angle of completely serious guy who believed fully that god was on his side that we got in Absolute Evil.
>>151740424Scott Synder has this thing for making the Joker this immortal super demon
>>151740382He was way cooler when he was just evil Bruce Wayne. Him killing the entirety of League of Assassins after they trained him is a lot less cool when it's not an extremely skilled fighter but a 7 feet tall demon.
Absolute Cringe
>>151741512You need to understand the rabbit hole Snyder is referencing with Absolute Joker.
>>151740391I can't really imagine him being a physical threat. After Bane literally became the size of a building I just can't imagine doing that again being impactful.
>>151740382No there's nothing wrong with it.
>>151740391>where's the joke? where's the funny!Absolute Joker probably has a painting of a politician wearing a dress in his cave.
Wait, isn't this just Ultimate Green Goblin all over again?
>>151740388/thread
>>151751318yes, but people are retarded>joker... but BIGGGGGEEEERRRRThis shit convinces me that the general public has such shitty taste
Snyder wants to make Joker a demon?Fine. At least have it be more Judge Holden and less >>151751318It gets really tiresome when every villain who isn't Black Mask is "what if classic villain but BIGGER".
Scott describes Absolute Joker at 59:36https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stVqNbEFCII
>>151741699The old Joker was good because he was the complete opposite of Batman.The problem started when the writers decided that he had to be the most dangerous and evil of all their villains; that meant he had to be worse than rapists, cannibals, serial killers, terrorists, etc.That led to a slippery slope that ended up turning him into the complete opposite of what he originally was, an edgelord.The point of the character is that he's a clown who isn't funny, and it leads him into a life of crime to prove that he is funny.Now he is literally Satan and literally the god of chaos, immortal and all-powerful.
>>151742186Nah, this is Spawn done properly.
>>151750658This is interesting, too bad the Joker has green hair.
>>151752113>joker... but BIGGGGGEEEERRRRThis isn't even the first time the Joker has done this.
>>151745714Fucking peakino
>>151752208that's it? absolute jonkler is a survivalist? and he's so religious about surviving that he thinks it's funny people care about someone else's well being?that... that fucking sucks, that shit sounds like some reddit tier version of jonkler, absolutely tasteless take on the character i hope they prove me wrong in the actual execution in these next few issues
>>151752471>that's it? absolute jonkler is a survivalist? and he's so religious about surviving that he thinks it's funny people care about someone else's well being?Exactly like in real life. Why do you think Elon Musk is obsessed with reaching Mars, and Mark Zuckerberg getting a bunker in Hawaii? The rich are fucking psychos obsessed with their own survival.>https://web.archive.org/web/20251021220604/https://www.theguardian.com/news/2022/sep/04/super-rich-prepper-bunkers-apocalypse-survival-richest-rushkoff>They knew armed guards would be required to protect their compounds from raiders as well as angry mobs. One had already secured a dozen Navy Seals to make their way to his compound if he gave them the right cue. But how would he pay the guards once even his crypto was worthless? What would stop the guards from eventually choosing their own leader?>The billionaires considered using special combination locks on the food supply that only they knew. Or making guards wear disciplinary collars of some kind in return for their survival. Or maybe building robots to serve as guards and workers – if that technology could be developed “in time”.>I tried to reason with them. I made pro-social arguments for partnership and solidarity as the best approaches to our collective, long-term challenges. The way to get your guards to exhibit loyalty in the future was to treat them like friends right now, I explained. Don’t just invest in ammo and electric fences, invest in people and relationships. They rolled their eyes at what must have sounded to them like hippy philosophy.
>>151752471>>151752832yeah that's pure assjoker is supposed to NOT care about dying as long as batman does it, he does not care as long as it's blood on bruce's hands to show that he finally broke himoh boy this shit is just gonna go downhill fast with this ass of a joker
>>151752832Remember when Deniz Camp wrote one of the Councilmen siphoning the blood of Sunspot to stay young?An Anon pointed out that's based on something real
>>151752832lol, you've been brainwashed.
>>151752876You're forgetting this universe is Darkseid's edgy fanfiction to fuck with the heroes.
>>151740382nigga i been bored with absolute batman since the startrob liefeld lookin bullshit w/ faux edgy capitalism bad faggotry ngl i'm sick of it
>>151752983Brainwashed is realizing the rich and powerful are assholes? Fuck off, bootlicker.
>>151753037>bootlickeryes, you are definitely brainwashed.
>>151752471Honestly the religious part feels the closest connection to his Absolute Evil characterization >>151752876Playing devil's advocateThat dynamic worked because mainline Batman and Joker's dynamic is different than Absolute's Why would demon Joker in particular care about dying to Bruce?The guy's already a lot more ruthless and is already teetering on his no-kill rule (you cannot convince me he knew Bane would survive that fight)
>>151740382I haven't seen anything so edgy since the 90's
>>151750658not sure if its mentioned in the book or theory or whatever, but theres different classes of nephilim. So maybe this is true for one of them, but the rephaim and another one I cant remember maybe werent clown-like.
What do we think of Absolute Reverse Flash?
>amerilard brainlets arguing which one of them is more brainwashedLovely.
>>151752876well no their dynamic here is differentit's not the classic bat obsessed joker who's only goal is to make him break his one rule by any means necessary. no this joker probably doesn't even think about batman at all, he's a nobody to him i am not defending this ass version of the joker just that their dynamic here is just different. Again tho, still an ass version of the clown prince of crime
>>151740382jonkler status: ass.
>>151753322He's alright, but Absolute Flash is kinda dull for me
>>151740382>>151740388it's just an ultimate goblin retread, which is fine because like gobby joker is not Batman's best villain
>>151740382I haven't been keeping up with this because I thought it was overhyped as fuck and those have a bad repSeems I was right
>>151752169Sometimes demonic reimaginings feel so forced you could swear they're a mandate from the editors
>>151740382the subversion would've been to make the Joker into the silly goofyball "boner" Joker while everything else got ramped up
>>151740382I hate how they did it, there's absolutely better ways to do the "Demonic Clown" angle that aren't Demonic Venomized Joker
Why didn't Snyder just make him a Skinner Sweet expy
I'm just bored of the Joker.
>>151755613Could just be everyone wants to one up the last version of a character.
It's just Titan Joker.
>>151745714Absolutely kino
>>151753219>not sure if its mentioned in the book or theory or whatever, but theres different classes of nephilimFrom a strictly biblical sourcing, there is only one kind show in OT
