>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I HAVE A LOT OF MONEY, A NICE HOUSE AND ALL THESE INTERESTING WOMEN WANNA FUCK ME BUT IM SO SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD
>>151756275You don’t know nothing, faggot
>>151756275Many such cases.
>>151756300Seems like a reasonable complaint. I don't care for the woes of people with more resources then I, just like they don't care for the woes of those they deem lesser. Bojak would see you dead in a gutter and chuckle before driving off and crying about almost fucking a teenager.Queer.
>>151756275he was abused
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>>151756331A lot of words to say you're a vapid materialist with no soul.
>>151756422>>151756427>a complaint on the immorality of the rich"Lol you must be a materialist."I'll ignore the blatant samefag and just call you retarded :^)
>>151756463:^) Are you sure I haven't just pointed out a glaring flaw in your favorite hug-box and you aren't mad?Bojak is an immoral faggot. Whatever gripes you have with me are merely projections on the reality of this shitty character.:^)
>>151756275Nice thread OP. Really cool. Everyone who likes this show is a tranny clearly.
You can't just hate people cause they're rich, anon
>>151756275Incel words, but a horse guy
>>151756529What else is there to hate anyone for?
>>151756535>incel>is the most hollywood jew, progressive slop everHmm
>>151756529>show about a rich piece of shit>wtf anon you can't notice he's richHmm
>>151756275Normal words
>>151756535he had more sex than family guy fans
>OP watches the Twilight Zone episode where the guy wins every single time he gambles, wonders "What the fuck was HIS problem? How could that possibly be Hell?!">OP sees comic about people spending their lives in chairs plugged into VR where they go on virtual adventures, wonders "Why is this being portrayed as a bad thing?!"Just because you would gladly be a lotus eater doesn't mean the majority of people would be happy with such an empty life.
>>151756603>rich and living in America, world hegemon>empty and sad lifeListen Nigger you can bloviate all day about how 'le it actually sucks to be well off' but no matter what you say, the people in the gutter will always see the shiny tower and begin to salivate.Your ignorance shines through. Like an idiot child showing you a drawing.
>>151756564That's not what I said. You can hate the guy for being a piece of shit, but hating him just for being rich sounds like jealousy.
>>151756603Mmmmmm. Lotuses…
>>151756625So?
>>151756625>jealousy badLol wont survive a harsh winter
>>151756639I guess that's fine. It's just not a good reason to hate on someone cause they're rich
>>151756660>cartoons need defending too
>>151756648I mean, getting jealous over a cartoon horse is just silly.
>>151756648You wouldn’t, faggot
>>151756671hahaha. Yeah, it's a cartoon
>>151756671Yes
>>151756660I guess they’ll just have to wipe their tears with hundred dollar bills if they don’t like being hated.
>>151756621I am poor you tard. I can understand why the lotus machine is bad because I'm capable of using my imagination. Yes, a life of ease looks great when you are struggling, no shit retard. But if you had enough brain cells to think about it, eventually you would get tired of how meaningless your life is. You don't enjoy doing the same thing every fucking day now, why do you think that would change?You remind me of my boomer father. He retired and immediately settled into a daily routine of sitting in a chair and playing videogames and watching youtube videos all day long. Greatly enjoyed his retirement for all of 6 months. Now he complains about how bored he is, and how there's nothing to do. By your definition, he's got it made. He doesn't need to work, has a place to live, food, water, entertainment, everything he could want. But it didn't make him happy, and now he has sat around so much he's lost most of his energy and motivation that he is struggling to go walking once a day to get some exercise. Like you, he looked at the lotus and said "yes, I wanna eat that."
>>151756719If that's what you got from what I said, then yeah, I guess they have to wipe their tears with a hundred-dollar bill.
>>151756275The show makes a very good case that all of those things dont bring happiness, while also desperetely trying to not make the case that having a normal intact family is the best pathway to it.
>>151756396His abusers were also abused.And the show worked very hard to excuse hus mother's behsvior because of her abuse, while condemning bojack for his behavior despite his abuse.So which is it?
>>151756758Eh, other than the son getting boners from his deer sister, Charlotte's family was pretty normal and very much happy about it.
>>151756779They didn't excuse her actions, they just showed what happenedBojack never forgave her
>>151756815>why is it animated in the first place?Because they’re nearly all anthropomorphic animals and that’d be very expensive and look terrible in any other medium. I don’t usually read or reply to these avatarfag posts, but that’s such an exceptionally stupid question this time.
>>151756744holy projection
>>151756825Because they needed to show charlotte beingA) happyAndB) normalTo make their point. It was unavoidable(because it's true). Charlotte's life wasnt held up as an end goal. It was a context for her life and character to subvert our expectations at the time. Then it is quickly abandoned when that part of the story is over.The only other traditional family is also the one that got the most screen time and analysis, bojack's. His parents were married. He's their biological son. There was never a divorce or adoption. They werent even poor to blame their problems on that. They were bad and abused bojack and each other because they were bad people stuck together. It was that stickiness identified as the issue that should have been resolved.
>>151756744Sorta sounds like you and your dad have autism and don't like change very much. You need to seek novelty. And that doesn't change weather you are rich or poor.Anon, you are projecting.
>>151756980No you don’t, you goddam retard
>>151756779It's okay to abuse men. It's not okay to abuse women. - The Left
>>151757054No, that’s you
>>151756815I'm surprised you still are around without a single ban in your life. https://desuarchive.org/co/search/filename/%20I%E2%80%99m%20not%20watching%20that%20shit%20/
>>151757061Part of why I hate this absolute slop-fest. (May as well be written by an AI). Deeply seeded with Jewish hatred of the male.( ° ͜ʖ °) Normal words...
>>151757078Cause hes right
>>151756892They did. What do you mean they didnt? They replayed her whole life from beginning to end to show all the torment she suffered and how that lead her to be who she was. Her brother dying wasnt her fault. Her mother's mental breakdown wasnt her fault. Her toys and stuff getting burned wasnt her fault. Getting pushed into the upper class hoohah life wasnt her fault. Falling for bojack's dad put as much blame on him as they could. And his resulting behavior in their bad marriage wasnt portrayed as her fault(it was).Bojack got one too. When they kept showing us "the first time he drank". Every point was his fault. He chooses to drink and then he chooses to hurt someone near him. He has the least blame in the final scene where he drinks his parent's drinks so he can be like them. But theyre very explicit with this, saying it overtly many times. Bojack's behavior is his fault. He is choosing to do things that hurt people. He cant kick back blame to anyone else.
>>151756275There are a great many people with a hole in their heart that nothing could ever fill.Sometimes a person is broken in a way that cannot be repaired, only coped with
>>151757040>lotus machine is precisely about doing the same thing all the time>post says lotus machine is BAD>you guys don't like change!Your reading comprehension is non-existent. ESL?
>>151757176>this faggot still postingHuh?
>>151757024>what if normal words but a horse guy>but no horse guyThat discards the only hook.
>>151757097Ugh. You and the anon who keeps saying "based" to an avatarfag are making him appear more often.
>>151757185Anon I don't come to /co/ often. I don't know what you are talking about. But anon was right.
>>151757185I wanr to engage in a sexual relationship with this mouse.
>>151757117Anon your misogyny is overwhelming your senses.Bojack's mother is a terrible person that doesn't deserve forgiveness and the show never tries to convince you otherwise. She is a foil for Bojack in that they both have strong EXPLANATIONS for why they are the way they are but an explanation is not the same as an EXCUSE.It is understandable why she is so awful. Her being so awful makes it understandable why Bojack is so awful.But in both cases it doesn't make it okay.You can trace blame for generational trauma as far back as the first homo sapien if you really want to, but that doesn't help anyone or solve anything.
>>151757181>dodges questionLol, ESL confirmed.
>>151757213You are the worst kind of moralist. Anti human, anti justice, anti life.>>151757230NTA but you are really autistic.
>>151756275>I grew up privileged and had to make the worst imaginable movie/show concept, the lives of actors in and around Hollywood oh and there's endless in-jokes about the industryThat's more unforgivable than anything else.
>>151757213This is correct. Bad things happened to her, she used them as an excuse to be shitty. She never made an attempt to move beyond the trauma or seek out help for her issues, she just treated people poorly for her own enjoyment. Her past showed how she got to be the way she was, but it didn't excuse who she allowed herself to be.
>>151756815Fg itself is guilty of the "stand around and talk" animation anti-style. All of them are doing it.
>>151757193Yes, but he will always be a retarded faggot
>>151757264How can he be right and retarded? Help me anon I may be going retarded from this.
>>151757245>Bad circumstances explain bad behavior but do not excuse it>"YOU'RE ANTI-HUMAN AND ANTI-JUSTICE"...the fuck?
>>151756603>>151756621In an argument on 4chan about the only horse show we're allowed to discuss here, 2 anons correctly used "lotus-eater" and "bloviate" Damn>>151756621
>>151757283>Bad circumstances explain bad behavior so it's not good to hold anyone accountable.Die faggot
>>151757302Anon that is the exact opposite of what I said.Are you ok?
>>151757297We're arguing over concepts, not waifus. It usually leads to more intelligent discourse.
>>151757297I have an ENGLISH DEGREE and IM GOING TO USE IT TO CALL YOU A FAGGOTON THE INTERNET
>>151757314He's ESL, thinks arguing against being a lotus eater means you hate change. What were you expecting?
>>151757278A brocken clock is right twice a day
>>151756275You're the OP who reposts that screencap of Fassbender in the movie about the rich guy with a big dick sad about his meaningless life on /tv/.Finally get b& from there after doing that for ten years straight, I take it?
>>151757335>>151757314NTASame fag
>>151757334I remember as a teenager my grandma used to say "you're so smart with such a big vocabulary, you don't need to curse to express yourself."Of course I don't need to call OP a retarded faggot, but nothing else would convey my feelings on the matter quite so perfectly.
>>151757297New Captcha is chasing off thidies for a little. Chan has been fun.>>151757314>Imagine not knowing the logical endpoint of your own train of thoughtNext>>151757335>still stuck on the lotus eater nonsenseHmmmm :^)
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Ok thread boring. Good luck Horse Guys>>151757407Pic rel. Me RN. This is what they've been arguing with.
>>151757213>It is understandable why she is so awful. Her being so awful makes it understandable why Bojack is so awful.This is YOUR opinion. Not the show's. Bojack is heavily finger wagged with on-the-nose dialogue that he is responsible for his actions entirely and that is primary-motivatiin for all of his awful behavior is that he hates women.His mother didnt get the same sort of trial and conviction bojack did(literally by the end). What she got was bojack bloviating about how mean she was and her firing back that hes a brat and her behavior was justified. She didnt learn her lesson and the lesson bojack learns is to let it go.If they didnt go so far as to literally lut these words into the show i couldnt so confidently make this case.>youre just an -istLook at that! You learned everything you needed to from the show.
>>151756275Yeah, this is the major problem with Bojack, every character is an extremely out of touch & sheltered asshole who’s concept of morality consists of appealing to perceptions solely for the purpose of saving face instead of tangibly helping anyone. It accurately portrays Hollywood Californians but that’s all it is; Hollywood Californian bullshit with a horse man. There is no message, there is no direction, the show isn’t even very funny.
>>151757253Idk man. Both bojack and his lom got a lot of the same analysis so we can compare them.When we see bojack's life its comedic.When we see his mother's life it's tragic. Tragic to the point of being gruesome.Bojacks mommy was mean to him and made him sing. His mom had to ride in a car with her drunken hysterical mother and almost die and then she had to watch her after her lobotomy and her dad being cartoonishly callous about all of it.We didnt get symbollic horror imagery accompanying bojack's flash backs. An instruction to the audience about how the director intended us, the audience, to feel about what's on screen.
>>151757591>I can't understand a message even when a character literally shouts it to the camera >I also can't read and understand your posts as my working memory is only big enough for two sentences at a timeTragic.Three-cueing has been a disaster for literacy.
>>151757672>When we see bojack's life its comedicWhat an incredibly telling statement
>>151757424Lolling at this anon hard. Shitting up OP's thread like this. Very based.
>>151757614Grand. This IS why bojack (the show) is awful. Everyone is an accurate portrayal of a normal los angelian, but because it was written by los angelians everyone is good and gets good endings despite their horrible choices and behavior. They indite this one archetype, but not anybof the others that are just as terrible.
>>151757735Then you have faggots like >>151756603who think it's a lot deeper than a bunch of LA brown-hands typing slop.
>>151757718I didnt write or direct the show dude. Im identifying the intent of the direction not giving my personal opinion on how funny child abuse is.>>151757691I proved i understood it by repeating it back. Per the writers>bojack is bad because he hates womenThat was the grand reveal at the end of the series. That was "the butler did it" of bojack. The caeser sozet.
>>151757793
Normal words, but a horse guy! :)))))
>>151757614I tried watching it but yea, the jokes fucking sucked. If it had been at least funny maybe I would have cared.
>>151757906what does the term "normal words" even supposed to mean in that context?
>>151757981who gives a fuck
>>151757991ur mom did, she gave tons of fucks on mah dicc
>>151757735The whole point of the show is that life isn't a show and karma doesn't exist to punish bad behavior. Sometimes bad people get theirs and sometimes they don't. The fact that you want these characters, most of whom aren't wholly bad but flawed, to be punished in the end to satisfy your taste for cosmic justice shows that you just don't get it.
>>151756275rich privileges
