Why did Gaiman insist Herakles has never been to the underworld? Whatever happened to "All stories are true" and whatnot?
>>151767524Gayman is a hack
>>151767524Didn't Orpheus come back alive?
>>151767684Death is talking to Orpheus here
>>151767524I'm pretty sure Theseus escaped the underworld (although it was Heracles who came by and saved him because his retarded friend thought it was a good idea to try to kidnap Persephone)
>>151767524Because Herakles was just a dumb drunk.
>>151767524Because Herakles is a symbol of toxic masculinity.
>>151768421All his women were filled with his hard, angry, sad, tiny thing
>>151768421also ThorNiel was def bullied in school
>>151768498NoI was bullied in school, I didn't turn into a male feminist OR incel. Gaiman was the original theater kid.
>>151768421So is Neil Gaiman.
>>151768498Nah he was a wolf in sheep's clothing. One of those "feminist ally"-types.
>>151768498He was probably molested. See: One Life, Furnished in Early Moorcock. That short story always disturbed me because it feels pretty autobibliographical and very nonchalant about sexual abuse at a boy's school.
>>151768498I mean... he actually is.
>>151768591What's wild is that all of these guys are the exact same.>Develop tons of unresolved sexual tension because they grew up as dorky nerds>Get a hard sexual awakening>Gain power via their fame>Expunge their built up perversions>Turns out the pervasions festered to long and are now just their natural sexual apatite>Keep going till caught
>>151768754I sometimes wonder if I'd end up that way if I got rich. But I don't think so. I don't have any violent impulses as far as I'm aware.
>>151768498thor is a drag queen anon
>>151768833Remember money and power doesn’t corrupt it reveals
>>151768498do wonder what Gaiman's Thor would have been like since he did want to write his return after Ragnarok
>>151767524>degenerate leftist promotes Anti-White, anti-male, anti-West sentiments and convictions to stupid, impressionable floppyfags`
>>151768421Herakles named himself after a female goddess (the goddess of Marriage no fucking less) to appease her, not a very masculine or chad thing to do
>>151767524Kneel
>>151767524But...Herakles was half god?
>>151770581>since he did want to write his return after RagnarokWell why didn't he include it in Norse Mythology then? Was this after he wrote that?
>>151768833Its typically the hard sexual awakening that does it.For Gaiman its because his first real sexual experience was with a hardcore BDSM mistress and so that defined how he views sex and intimacy but magnified due to all the nerd buildup.
>>151767550FPBP
>>151767713I think Hercules was there, Death for some reason just dont likes him.and discredits the.man...
>>151767524Gaiman spent half that book posting his own opinions on things and shitting on stuff he did not care for. He said a lot of fairy tales were either fake or sickhouse shit that Disney lampshaded. Then bitched about Disney for a whileHe spent two issues bitching and moaning about Renaissance fairsSpent a couple issues complaining about how Americans do not have any gods or mythology at all. Then he later wrote a book still complaining about that.Every single folklore hero was some big dumb brute moronAnd women should have been allowed to be sailors or some shit around the end there.
>>151768591He seemed a lot like a Joss Whedon type that used his whole angry outspoken feminist ally stuff to be a shield for his own shit.
>>151768754>Expunge their built up perversionsYeah see mine involve adult women less likely to be fans so I don't have that opportunity haunting me
>>151775360>how Americans do not have any gods or mythology at all.I will thank the Inglush to stop writing about us. "We Built This City" was written by Bernie fucking Taupin knowing Elton John wouldn't touch it with a ten foot dildo.
>>151775360>Spent a couple issues complaining about how Americans do not have any gods or mythology at all. Then he later wrote a book still complaining about that.Tolkien said the same thing about the English half a century earlier.But I kind of thought it was a real big "No Shit" kind of moment when talking about a country founded in the relative modern era nearly two millennia after the creation and spread of monotheist Christianity. Of course the Christian Brits, French, Dutch, and Irish colonists who founded the country did not have a weird native mythology. They haven't had any for hundreds of years.
>>151767524I expected /co/ to doulbe down on their love for Sandman in contrarianism to the mainstream mood, but I guess /co/ is too infested with twitter tourists now.
>>151777189Didn't stop Mexico, Canada, Argentina, Brazil, or any other western country from having a lot of local lore that goes back a few centuries.Maybe mutts are just stupid and lack any kind of imagination or sense of tradition.
>>151777503>Retarded browns still cling to their human sacrifice rituals>This is a god thing to euros.
>>151777286Sandman still good it's just that Gaiman's a definitive fag now.
>>151773287no, but he was meant to originally do Thors return in the Marvel Universe post Civil War