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LS Mark's new cartoon is out
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DDTUHx8cjTI
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That guy with Sonic opinions?
Pass. I don't trust guys with Sonic opinions.
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>>151776192
>Some autistic mick got 40k for this while I can't even get a five min short animated while working my dead end job
I'm gonna rope
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>>151776192
this is so ass man
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>>151776192
>5:05
Is he for fucking real?
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>>151776192
>Regular Show but lame
Gee, thanks Mark
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>>151776192
Angie a cute
Would steal away from LSmark dogshit cartoon and give her a better man to be romance interest for
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>>151776192
His art looks like shit, I said this before and I’ll say it again but he’s trying to look like Butch Hartman and Sonic and shit without learning the artistic fundamentals first or drawing inspiration from life. His characters don’t look like caricatures of real life like cartoons should be, they look like their designs were simply just imitated from other cartoons.

Though I shouldn’t have expected the mediocre critic who thinks that cartoon takes are meme faces and that Fantasia is boring to know how to make a good cartoon.
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>>151776192
Dude Rob's voice actress isn't even trying, I can close my eyes and immediately think that voice is coming from a girl.
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>>151776192
Okay huh what the hell is the target audience for this? It's all over the place with the tone and jokes, like it wants to be regular cartoon show but then it hits with "Pedo Park" and swearing.
I dunno it just comes across as aimless.
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So many jealous anons in here.
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>>151776210
dont forget hes a cuck
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>>151776192
No one cares
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>>151776192
>Written & Directed by: Mark & Veronica
>Veronica
That explains A LOT about this
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>>151776478
seethe harder, Mark
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>>151776478
hey on this note >>151776518
can i bang your wife or do i have to offer her drugs like the last guy
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>>151776192
>Catching Mid
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>>151776192
You know, after seeing he did marathons and reviews of multiple cartoon series with episodes that go between 100 to 700, I'd expect LSmark's own creative would be better than what it actually is currently.
He talks shit alot but apparently his own work has flaws he doesn't want to bring up.
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>>151776442
Just like other indietoons, it’s stuck in limbo between trying to appeal to kids or adults
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>>151776192
This leaked the other day i'm pretty sure. And the verdict was that it was shit once again.
There's something about critics thinking they can ""make"" something but they themselves don't understand art or the concept of appeal, I mean if he learned to draw or how to chara design at least people would be like "well it sucks but it's good visually" but his artstyle is a knockoff of Butch Hartman and his writing is also pretty boring. Who is this for besides LS Cuck?
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>>151776192
what is happening here
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>>151776758
Vitiligo
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I applaud him for trying but the best I can say is he's better than Viv
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>>151776758
Rendering error
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>>151776561
>drugs
Nah tell her how awesome she looks in the saggy bunny suit lol
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Nothing is more annoying to me than when someone tries to write about drug use and has clearly never done that kind of drug in their life OR known anyone who has used it. Weed definitely gets the worst of it but alcohol also has this problem too.
Imo the show reads like a nerd writing about what he thinks normal people do.
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>>151776758
I see that effect is constantly appearing through the episode so it makes me believe its a deliverate choice from Mark and Veronica
Which I don't get because it looks BAD.
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Has anyone here tried animating something? Not to defend Mark by any means but I do wanna see creations anons have made
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>>151776758
I think it's supposed to be a textured shadow but it looks way too harsh
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>>151776783
Wrong see >>151776856
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differences between the leak and the final episode
https://files.catbox.moe/1cujsv.mp4
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>>151776840
If Mark really wanted to draw from life like a writer should he would’ve smoked weed once for this episode to see what it’s like. Those kinds of drugs should be easily accessible from his slut wife.
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>>151776478
I haven't said anything mean ITT but that's mainly because >>151776351 hit the nail on the head
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>>151776669
Space Cop
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>>151776192
I'ma be real, the first episode was painfully boring, nothing was exciting, funny, endearing, anything, I genuinely don't know who it's aimed at, and very rarely do I dislike indie projects like this, but I was just annoyed after watching. Not even gonna give the second episode a chance.
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Mark wants to be at least 3 to 5 other well known indie/industry artists so badly and it shows. Not a single idea in his brain that didn’t come from something or someone else.
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>>151776840
The “omg it’s DRUGS!!!” was weird, especially because Veronica is a stoner herself
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>>151777300
Neither he or Veronica are creative people. One watches only kids' cartoons/doesnt draw and the other is a fan-tier slut
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>>151776192
Is the writing and pacing better than episode 1? It was so fucking boring and felt like it would never end.
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>>151776192
Mark
This is just sad
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I liked the layer blending from the first one. Guess maybe its because they were in a club. The flat characters composite on neon lights and feathered blooms from behind reminded me of how Gumball mixes animation styles. Basically not caring about any rules and just making a unique look. This new one just looked like it didn't know if it wanted to look like Fairly Odd Parents or Danny Phantom. Especially the brother. He looked like a DP character in a FoP episode.
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>No cool cat
0/10 unwatchable slop
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>>151776192
The only moment that made me laugh was
>Where's the love? where's the craftsmanship?
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>>151776537
as a Kickstarter backer Veronica did a lot of Q&A before Mark showed us the episode. Most of it was junk but I remember a FEW interesting details. She said that for coming up with the story her & Mark specifically roleplayed as the characters. She also had her had her dog with her and made a comment about his big peen. I wish I recorded it.
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>>151776675
teens?
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I still can't tell what the target audience is supposed to be for this, the sort of "childish" writing in general and the
>omg is that WEED?? That's DRUGS!!!
makes it seem like it's meant for middle schoolers but then they say "fuck" and make pedophile jokes, it's weird.
I admit the random live action hands with the gloves trying to light the joint made me smirk. It would have been funnier if it was fuzzy grey gloves though
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>10:37
>its just this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg0JHPW7-vM
uh mark?
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>>151776537
Veronica probably knows more about art than Mark desu
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>>151777398
definately better paced. albeit a little too fast, but it doesn't feel like it's wasting too much of your time
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>>151777376
>He thinks Veronica cares enough about Mark beyond financial safety to inform him about it
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>>151776192
>
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>>151776840
One of my pet peeves is having characters take a hit of a joint and then it's all
>whoOOOAAA I'm TRIPPING OUT!! I see COLORS!!
and everything is distorted and crazy like an acid or mushroom trip
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>>151777720
All are the same flavor of furry slice of life autism cancer, figures
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>>151776192
First was underaged drinking, now drugs. I cam't wait for the third one where its about underaged sex.
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These character designs are still stupid
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>>151776192
I mean, mark is a cuck and his wife a whore, but his 2nd episode really stepped up on quality.
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>>151776192
That's Tomar playing the dad right. Why would you work on a project with a woman who cucked your friend?
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>>151776192
As questionable as LS Mark is, I will commend him for releasing his show.
Unlike SOME OTHER Youtubers.
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>>151778309
>Your own cartoon where you can write about anything you want!
>Underage drinking, drugs
Says a lot about what's in Veronica's head
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>>151776777
I'd rather watch hazbin and helluva over mark's show. at least viv's crap has something worthwhile and somewhat interesting
>>151778471
shut up mark, no one likes your slop
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>>151776478
there's only contempt, not jealousy
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>>151776192
Honestly this was pretty decent. The emotional scenes don’t work at all considering how fast paced it is (thank god considering how slow the pilot was) but the plot and jokes are pretty good and I seriously enjoyed myself. Rare LS Mark win
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>>151777720
Heh
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>>151776351
Source for pic?
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>>151777079
>hit the nail on the head
More like missed the point compleyely. The guy was clearly going for a prefered style. Clearly likes Butch Hartman's style and I see nothing wrong about liking a style. He wasn't even claiming to be original in it or anything. The guy was clearly a fan of that style. And every artist knows fundamentals weren't meant to be followed. They were meant to be broken. Otherwise everything starts to look samey. Its how bean mouth and corpo minimalist art got started because fundamentals this fundamentals that instead of figuring out what you like. Guess ypu're not an artist and just parrots what other parrots parrot.
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>>151779092
>And every artist knows fundamentals weren't meant to be followed. They were meant to be broken.
Anon, a part of being a good artist is understanding the fundamentals SO you can recognize the best time to break them, not to just ignore them entirely as a shortcut.
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I like it more than the first episode so far
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>>151776192
I would rather watch hazbin hotel season 2.
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The target group seems to be early teens. I don't think it matters since it's his passion project. It won't catch on like many indie shows being made due to how those shows are built around tumblr styled fandoms/shipping in mass, but it's good for what it is.
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where's the edgy humor? where's the social commentary? where's the character development?
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>>151776192
>makes fun of Butch H
>show is ten times worse
LEMAO
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>>151779409
WHERE'S THE FUCKING PREMISE
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>>151779092
>Guess ypu're not an artist
Haven't been one for quite some time, but you still couldn't pitch this to anyone based on these shorts. You can choose to disagree, but good luck convincing more than crowdfunders to care about this unfocused slop.
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>>151777555
no wonder why it's a weed lmao episode
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>>151779409
>>151779667
uuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhh life is just like that anon, that's why they call these things "slices of life", get it?
get it?
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>>151779702
Sorry that the cartoon about kids doing kid things didn't have enough lore
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>>151776192
>damn this was uploaded 6 hours ago, i probably missed an entire thread already full of shitposting and the occasional comment about the actual episode
>77 replies
glad im not far behind after all
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>>151776192
As someone who does actually watch Mark's reviews, it always felt like he was pretty open about not liking overly goofy things. Like stuff that's always "on", with no downtime. I actually do find it disappointing how his comedy is basically all that stuff. Always on, very excessive, scripted in an obnoxious and sometimes forced way.
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>>151780180
Well, the park does have downtime. But mixing the goofy stuff with "wait, peedo park?!" is just reminding me of when the mouse cussed in the bus in ep 1. Also the emo chick being the love interest, Mark's taste in women has been damaged.
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>>151779092
Wow the later half of your post is so fucking bad. Sure, in art and especially cartoons rules are meant to be broken but ONLY after you've learned them (or as you're learning them). The difference here is that no one actually bothered studying the fundamentals so all you've got going on here is "i-it's my style!" excuse. And saying beanmouth slop is a direct result of not breaking rules is the biggest bullshit i've ever heard in a while, if anything they were fully against any type of fundamentals, it was hated because not only was it overused it was also paired up with flat composition/bad perspective/dull color choices and a shit ton more stuff that would make anyone outside the nepobaby art animation circles croak. It had nothing to do with rules dumbass.
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>>151780104
>is all just mocking men
why so one-sided, there's lots of female archetypes to pull from
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>>151776192
I liked it
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>>151777597
Maybe a similar sound isn't easy to find in free SFX libraries, if he even knows how to find them, I don't.
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>>151776917
Nobody here creates, only consumes
Prove me wrong
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>>151780426
Because when People create something for THIS place it will be left to rot after a while.
Unless its a /v/ romhack or a /v/ fangame project, those will live on forever.
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>>151780631
Stargaze and the Sentinels of Starlight
THONG Squad
Blimbo and his Friend (this one was memory holed HARD)
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>>151780426
I create. I come here to know what co/ likes so I avoid making it.
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>>151781077
So you create nothing
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>>151780215
>It had nothing to do with rules dumbass.
It did, idiot. I know this first hand. Anyone who studied animation knows your ass of an instructor want to turn your style into a clone of theirs. Its their style or its wrong. And if you want to break into the industry, you have to do "their" fundamentals.
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>>151781091
I make what regular normies like.
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I bet nobody here can name and describe the six fundamentals of art without googling them
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>Six
Isn't anatomy and perspective the only fundamentals? What the fuck?
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>>151779702
That's the whole idea of indie. You don't kowtow to corpos. You make what you like and let like minded people fund it.
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>>151781116
Anatomy is sure the biggest outlier lately. I mean, its really a bad sign when a character design looks better in NSFW than in the source material.
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>>151781122
who cares AI techbros will take those jobs sooner or later
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>>151776192
I liked this episode more than the first and Angie is cute.
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>>151781107
Can you show us? Where can I find your work that regular normies like?
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>>151780226
The critic on the middle bottom is a girl, mocking how pretentious and apathetic she is
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>>151781126
Just you wait, people are gonna call you brown or kill yourself for being right
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>>151781116
>No one has named them yet
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>>151781242
>Anatomy
>Form and structure
>Perspective
>Lightning and shadow
>Color
>Composition
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>>151781256
Since when the fuck were lighting and color fundamentals. This makes no fucking sense
Anatomy is the only real fundamental, retards
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>>151781278
YOU NEED SHADOW AND LIGHT TO ILLUSTRATE A FORM. LINES IN A DRAWING ARE BASICALLY SHADOWS, WHY ELSE TO DRAWINGS WITH VARIED LINE WIDTHS EXIST??
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>>151781278
Color is the final stage of the fundamentals so it isn't as important as anatomy and form but if you want to draw in color then it is important
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>>151777804
The one time I hallucinated on weed it was some secondhand expired edibles I got from a coworker.
Even then it was just really simple shit like the world getting blurry.
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>>151781288
That drawing would be nothing without anatomy, dumbass
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>>151781278
Post your work
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>>151781299
What? I'm not saying to not draw with anatomy, I am saying light and show help ILLUSTRATE THE ANATOMY because light and shadow ILLUSTRATION PHYSICAL OBJECTS BECAUSE NOTHING IS FLAT
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>>151781299
And anatomy would be nothing without light and shadow, assdumb
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>>151781306
Why? So you retards can move the goalposts? I draw for and only for myself
I'm not an attention whore like LS Cuck
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>>151781327
I don't wanna movie the goalposts I genuinely wanna see your art because I'm curious. I'm not gonna own you in an argument because it's 4chan who cares?

Anyway here's something I drew forever ago
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>>151780104
I'm was all of these but the black one.
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>>151780426
>>151781306
>nooo you can’t critique something unless you yourself are able to make something better
Mark’s entire career has been giving bland critiques on everything and he also cannot do any better.
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>>151781353
So do I have to listen to every critique ever even if it's bad just because they are critiques?

And for the record, Mark never said he could do better
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>>151781353
>Better
Who said anything about better? We're just talking about creating something, anything at all.
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>>151781375
What's the point of creating when AI can do everything with a push of a button?
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>>151781375
I miss when artists created work just to create and not to make things that are BETTER. This board is obsessed with putting everything down that it's ruined me and many others from actually engaging with art cause they feel art isn't engaging cause it's not parroting their edgy political views
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>>151781383
Ai can create things badly and not create EXACTLY what you want
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>>151781364
No you do not. But I’m allowed to criticize art even if I don’t make art. Me not creating something doesn’t mean his creation somehow “means something”. Congrats to him for making it. It’s just bad.
>Mark never said he could do better
Then it shouldn’t be a problem if I think he delegitimizes his own opinions and art by releasing a cartoon covered in the same flaws he critiques.
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>>151776192
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If I can give at least ONE positive to this episode over the pilot, it's that it had actual jokes. They may not necessarily be good jokes but still jokes. Far too many scenes in the pilot just had blank staring or some non-joke. The runtime also felt a lot better in this one
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>>151781278
> Anatomy is the only real fundamental, retards
Nigger, perspective and constructing 3D forms is the actual main fundamental, without it you can’t actually draw anatomy at all
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>>151781338
NTA but that’s pretty great anon, fantastic work
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>>151781398
Okay if we don't have to listen to your criticism then what's the point in even saying criticisms? What do you and other people gain from you criticizing something? Do you hope someone can learn something from your words? Do you just wanna say shit cause you feel like talking?

That has always perplexed me because I aways felt I had to follow every criticism ever because if I didn't, I'd become a Jew without even knowing and I would die soon because I'm not as self-aware as people like you.

So tell me what do YOU get out of criticizing something if nothing really changes?
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>>151781416
Thanks
I feel like I've gotten better at art the less critical I became of media and just spent my energy on becoming a better artist. Turns out becoming a better artist is based on becoming a better person, who knew?
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>>151776758
Seems to match the metal texture. Probably some transparency issues.
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>>151781353
Where did I say that, dumbass? I just want to see the work of a guy who thinks anatomy is the only fundamental.
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For a guy who famously made fun of “meme faces” that certainly seems to be about 70% of the “jokes” he can make



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