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Why did most female fans dislike Aang and Katara as a couple?
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>>151789203
They weren't into shota and would prefer to fuck Zuko.
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>>151789203
OP, you've never interacted with a woman. So don't pretend you know what they think about anything
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I don't believe "most" did, but the ones who did probably found Aang being younger, shorter, and more childish to be a turnoff, since women are naturally attracted to taller and older men (just as men are generally attracted to younger women) so this kind of pairing is atypical.
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>>151789203
Remember the time Bryke seethed that nobody liked their self-insert?
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>>151789304
People loved Aang. You're thinking of Korra.

Also you know Bryke is shorthand for two different people right
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>>151789203
Don't pretend male viewers liked shitty characters like Aang. Aang is the literal self insert Gary Stu of the creator of Avatar. And Aang is created to not represent any appealing traits for all of humanity. Lets do a quickie...

Men - Aang is an uncool looking bald male character. Can a bald character be greatly received like Kratos from God of War? Yeah but you need to give them traits that make people be drawn to such a divisive character design like giving them an amusing personality. Kratos had his anger and violence. Aang? He's a spineless wuss who is unwilling to rescue the world from a world war because he doesn't want to kill despite he actually killing in older episodes (the Air Temple episode in the snow, Aang crushed those Fire Nation soldiers with lots of snow ala Disney's Mulan). So Aang is a hippie lamer and he looks uncool.

Women - Aang is ugly. Women generally aren't attracted to bald dudes unless they got some way to make up for it and again Aang's personality is a huge turn off since he's not too masculine. The only attractive trait Aang has as a character for women is he's the Avatar a title that makes him a celebrity around the world and entitled to royalties and benefits. That means Aang is a good beta male provider at best. But that doesn't mean he's attractive, he's merely tolerable and I can see women cheating on his beta ass.

So Aang is repulsive to both sexes. There is simply nothing good about him. And frankly he wasn't the only male character who was awful in this franchise and the women were annoying shit Mary Sues as well. You can tell that this show oozed feminism shit. The only male character I liked was Jet who understood "Hey we are in WAR so we have to fight and kill our enemies!" but sadly the shit writing killed him off. Anyone who liked Avatar Last Airbender is a shit for brains.
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>>151789224
So...they're self-inserting?
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>>151789203
Zero chemistry in both writing and acting.
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>>151789420
I bet you were in your teen edgelord phase when the show came out, and here you are now stuck in arrested development.
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>>151789203
They just had very little chemistry and what chemistry they did have was when they acted like siblings.

Yeah Zutara gets memed on but it's not surprising that people liked shipping the motherly figure with mommy issues with the Angsty Emo with mommy issues.
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>>151789203
Even i think it's weird. There's just no chemistry. Katara is a nagging cunt and aang is a free spirit. And it doesnt help that zuko has perfect chemistry with Katara.
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>>151789203
Katara was hotter than them and they couldn't insert.
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Because Aang feels like an annoying little brother to pre-teen girls
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>>151789676
And he's a lame boy to all male viewers.
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>>151789203
Katara is the nagging mother of the group. Aang is a peacemaker and voice reason. There’s no dynamic that produces anything with this. Toph + Aang works because they have enough chemistry in being goofballs while being different enough to balance each other out. Aang + Azula works because Azula is extremely dominant while Aang is submissive.
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>>151789203
Self instert stuff. Zuko is older and cooler. They know it's OTP but, feel icky a brown mommy character is kissing a bald child baby boy
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>>151789224
I wanna fuck Aang and I still don't like him with Katara so you're wrong. I'd rather have him get fucked by Zuko.
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>>151789437
>>151789522
>>151789607
>>151789968
>chemistry
This word is code for "my irrational brain does/doesn't get a girl-boner imagining them together but I want to act like my feelings are completely logical"
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>>151789203
most fans in general*
it’s because their chemistry was like pouring milk on cardboard
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>>151789262
>I don't believe "most" did
you definitely weren't around then. forget Zutara, katara was shipped with jet and haru over aang. A bald 12 year twink monk is a hard sell for girls to crush over
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>>151789676
Never forget that bryke described kataang as "that boy crushing on his babysitter" and somehow thought that was relatable to everyone let alone women
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>>151790470
>katara was shipped with jet and haru over aang
yeah by shippers, not by normal people
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>>151790256
No Autismo, Chemistry to how the characters react with on another and how those interactions play out in terms of social dynamics. Soery you don't understand basic ass social cues but they're something the rest of us use to make friends.
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>>151790533
>thinking anyone who watched atla back then weren't normies because they shipped noncon stuff
Yea you definitely weren't around then.
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>>151789203
Enemies to lovers is a beloved trope by women and Zutara is a good example of that. They're kind of two sides of the same coin (the whole "Fire Nation took my mother away" thing); Zuko even goes out of his way to find Katara's mother's killer. The crystal catacombs scene as a whole is also where shippers get a lot of their fuel.

Though I think that the show would have been better off if Katara didn't get together with either of them desu
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>>151790690
*noncannon*
wow these new captchas are cancer
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>>151790717
>I think that the show would have been better off if Katara didn't get together with either of them desu
Based. said this last thread but this show improves leaps and bounds when you cut all the romance. they were all better off being with someone else
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>>151790577
>Chemistry to how the characters react with on another
Oh sure, and your idea of "good chemistry" just happens to be older male with younger female. Yeah I believe you. Definitely not your irrational hormones just triggering arbitrarily for one pairing over another.
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>>151790690
I just rewatched this short and it ends with Katara going to the dance with The Blue Spirit so the showrunners were definitely leaning into it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO2Gfm8r4_c
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>>151790841
Precisely. shipping has always played a big element within this series' fandom at large. it's easy to forget how many ships were a thing among the normies before the finale sunk them
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>>151790045
Femanon?
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>>151789203
He's short and bald and doesn't brood enough.
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>>151789968
>Aang is a peacemaker and voice reason.
In other words, the dad?
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>>151790814
Aang being younger isn't the problem. The problem is that he and Katara don't work well as a romantic couple. They have their best interactions when they are acting closer to siblings where Katara is the responsible nuturing sister to Aang's carefree positive attitude. Even when Aang matured his personality did not fit Katara's in a believable romantic fashion.
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>>151789203
>female viewer's least favorite ship based on poll data
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>>151790961
>Aang being younger isn't the problem
Ok then, show me a pairing of 14f+12m or around there that you consider "good chemistry", I'll wait. Bet you can come up with dozens that work the other way. Just a coincidence yeah?
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>>151790256
>>151790814
Autism and low empathy, you never had a chance. You cannot recognize how dumb you are or are just baiting so here we are.
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>>151789203
Vanilla option, I'm always rooting for Sokka and Toph.
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>>151789427
Who isn’t with ships?
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>>151791038
Aang pairs better with just about the rest of the female cast and the only one younger than him is Toph.
Why are you so upset by this? Did some girl in middle school reject you because you were younger?
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>>151791064
>Vanilla option, I'm always rooting for Sokka and Toph.
You got it backwards, Sokka/Toph is super Vanilla. Aang/Katara is subverts cultural norms, which is the actual problem people had, even if they didn't realize.
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>>151789203
Because he's shorter than her and slightly younger. That's enough to be repulsive to the vast majority of women.
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>>151791147
>Aang/Katara is subverts cultural norms, which is the actual problem people had
My Father in law is a year younger than his wife and I'm 2 years younger than my wife. What the fuck are you on about?
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>>151791095
So you're telling me with a straight face that, in the events given to us in the show, Aang/Azula is a better pairing than Aang/Katara

This is why shippers are looked down on
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>>151791175
12/14 is different from 30/32. It's insane that you don't understand this intuitively
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>>151791186
I've yet to hear anyone provide reasons for why Aang and Katara are a good couple. If Kataang's critics can easily point out its flaws surely its fans can provide reasons for why it is good.
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>>151791154
This, women want a college professor who's 6'3 and cruel, not some kid
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>>151791220
>let's have a shipping war
No, your reasons for disliking the pairing are that he's younger and all your talk of chemistry and believability is just pretending your squick is rational.
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He's broke and short
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>>151789203
Katara comes off as some groomer. She is literally a teenager, and Aang is still a prepubescent tween. Katara is always falling in love with the next new guy see runs into or is being chased by some guy. Aang isn't a guy to her, but a means to an end, a comrade, a friend, and that is how fans see things beyond the overarching story.

So self inserts as Katara want to fuck Jet, or Zuko, and even Sokka.
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>>151791265
I accept your concession.
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>>151791265
way to runaway like a little bitch kek
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>>151791186
>just about
>immediately jumps to the one case that doesn't work
Retard
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The romance between them is uneven and underdeveloped.
Aang falls in love with Katara within the first 10 minutes of the show and spends the entire show heplessly pining for her.
Katara has platonic affection for Aang the entire show, but suddenly gives him a chance in the last 10 minutes of the finale.
It's the worst kind of love story. There definitely is a version of ATLA where Katara and Aang fall in love in a satisfying way, but it would need at least five more episodes than what we got.
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>>151789968
>Aang is a peacemaker and a voice of reason
But he objectively isn't.
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>>151789224
Uh dude lots of 12 year old freshman fuck 14 year old ninth grade girls
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>>151792221
They spend day and night together for a year, travelling the world and risking their lives for each other. It's makes sense that feelings can develop from platonic to romantic under those circumstances
>B-but I can't imagine how it happened if I don't see every detail of every step of...
this is why men think women are retarded.
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>>151792221
Its an action series for kids of course its underdeveloped, that kind of shit dont get Nick ratings FROM KIDS
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>>151792402
But there's always gonna be more 16 year old boys fucking 14 year old girls in comparison.
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Aang chemistry with Katara happened offscreen when puberty slowly made him an asshole confirmed by Korra
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>>151792221
>Katara has platonic affection for Aang the entire show, but suddenly...
And here's why women find it unbelievable. Women know within the first 5 minutes of meeting a man whether they're going to fuck him, because they're shallow and superficial. Once a man is friendzoned or brotherzoned, there's no getting out.

Bryke foolishly believed a woman's romantic feelings had some depth, but the fact that every woman on earth found this a ridiculous concept is unsurprising.
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>>151789203
Cause they self insert as Katara.
Age difference gave them an ick and they wanted more edgy and cool Zuko.
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>>151792492
>Once a man is friendzoned or brotherzoned, there's no getting out.
Wrong, women are fickle it means they have no actual principles so will change their mind if you the friendzoned bro tingled them like say you did something criminal and all of a sudden they want to hang out with you. This is why game works, women are subhumans that only obey their vagina so if you can trick their pussy into thinking your the boss then you can fuck them. Good looking guys do this by just existing so never have to attempt this however.
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>>151790525
>that boy crushing on his babysitter
Wow that was their dynamic wasn't it?
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>>151790525
Lots of boys had first crushes on surrogate older sisters
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>>151792411
>They spend day and night together for a year,
Well not together because they were always in a group.
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Reminder Aangs first view of Toph is a giggling cute girl in the swamp forest meaning he secretly wanted to fuck Toph
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>>151792595
Yeah I don't know why they didn't try to pivot to the girl closer to Aang's age who actually had chemistry with him.
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>>151789706
He only looks lame when compared to Shonen Jump protags
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>>151789203
Because Aang is a twink.
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>>151789248
true, like every girl I know loves the ship and think it's cute
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>>151789203
Katara is their self insert and they don’t want to bang Aang.
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>>151792964
They're not wrong.
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>>151792989
a superficial attraction to high testosterone males means a future of domestic abuse, and they'll only have themselves to blame (not that they ever will)
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>>151789203
i didnt. its fine.
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>>151793065
This, was Kataang a great pairing? Not really. Is it deserving this much writhing asspain? Not remotely.
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>>151789203
It was a prelude to all the romance bullshit in Korra. Peak hollywoodism where if a boy and girl stood next to each other, they were obligated to hook up.

I wonder if they made the MC of Seven Havens younger than ten precisely to avoid any love triangle/shipping war drama.
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>>151792460
>>151792402
And both of those PALE in comparison to a near-30 year old man fucking anything that speaks and has a discord on vrc. ;)
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>>151793041
But Aang's attraction to Katara is just as superficial.
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>>151792572
>which almost never work out
gee i wonder why
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>>151793232
No it isn't
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>>151793041
>if you dont want to fuck a bald twink, your destined for abusive relationships
>high testy men can only be future wifebeaters
i get its 4chan but get out of your bubble anon
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>>151793804
Aang likes Katara because she is a pretty girl but I don't think he knows one thing about her.
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>>151792989
>>151793818
>"erm shallow hypergamy is good actually"
If you say so
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>>151793844
>more muh buzzwords greentext cope
oneday you'll learn what a spectrum is anon, and no i dont mean the one you are on KEK
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>>151793841
>but I don't think he knows one thing about her.
Their entire friendship in the first episode is based on their mutual interest in waterbending and Aang was willing to give up his opportunity to train with Paku when he refused Katara. Did you watch the show?
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>>151793868
>no argument
I accept your concession kek
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>>151793844
Fascinating but I still don't see why Katara should reciprocate Aang's affections.
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>>151793869
>mutual interest in waterbending
he's the avatar, something he literally didn't want. waterbending is means to end for him
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>>151793897
You didn't give any reasons why she shouldn't other than looks which she obviously doesn't care about
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>>151793869
>Their entire friendship in the first episode is based on their mutual interest in waterbending
But it's not a mutual interest though, Katara is by definition way more into waterbending than Aang ever could be. For Katara it's not just a skill tree but a crucial part of her culture she was denied.
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>>151793892
>muh greentext cope
>no u have no argument hurr durr
autistic screeching is not an argument autist kun
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>>151789420
This screams incel
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>>151792367
So who is? Sokka?
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>>151793131
At least in ATLA they actually tried to make them work
Not saying that Kataang, Maiko, or Sukko are the best romances to ever exist, but they all function just fine for the story being told, and if given more focus on them (and since this was an action adventure cartoon for children, that wasn't gonna happen),they all could've been great
The same cannot be said for, well, any 'romance' done in Korra
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>>151793912
>You didn't give any reasons why she shouldn't other than looks which she obviously doesn't care about
Oh because they have nothing in common. Even their shared goal of ending the war is motivated by two entirely different mindsets.
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>>151793902
Being the Avatar isn't just about bending, Aang loved to Airbend before learning he was the Avatar. Aang obviously loves to bend even outside being the Avatar.
>>151793921
And you don't see how Aang's airbending would connect him to a crucial part of his own culture he no longer has access to? Also way to move the goalposts, we went from "Aang knows nothing about Katara" to "Well he doesn't appreciate his bending like she does" which are both untrue
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>>151793912
>she obviously doesn't care about
>"i hope he's tall" said katara to the fortuneteller
>the entirety of her initial attraction to jet clearly didn't happen....
almost as if she did care until the plot decided otherwise 2/3rds of the way into the show
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>>151793964
Katara herself of course because she honestly did more to resolve conflicts than Aang ever did.
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>>151793988
>Aang loved to Airbend
airbending is the only element he is shown to have an actual attachment to independant of other people. equating his passion for airbending with all bending is a joke when he quite literally never wanted to be the avatar, therefore never wanted to be anything but an airbender
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>>151794002
there was literally an entire episode to point to as to how well aang actually was a diplomacy... and it wasnt good (both his diplomacy and the episode in question, the great divide)
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>>151793134
30 year old men chasing 16 year old tail is practically a tradition
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>>151793995
Katara being initially attracted to Jet does not equal finding Aang expressly unattractive. Besides Aang grows taller than Katara when they're older so this point is moot
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>>151794027
You're misreading Aang's anxiety over the responsibilities of the Avatar with him being disinterested with the other bending types. We see Aang constantly excited over learning new bending styles, even Fire at first, what kid wouldn't be excited with being able to bend all 4 elements?
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>>151794050
Yeah good thing those two clans that been fighting for generations totally believed Aang over their own histories and traditions.
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>>151794067
>Katara being initially attracted to Jet does not equal finding Aang expressly unattractive
her not even looking his way until "we have to escape a cave by kissing" is saying the quiet part out loud. at this point i'll just tell you to take it up the creators, they chose to frame their relationship that way. people will point out the logical conclusions of said framing whether you like it or not
>Besides Aang grows taller than Katara when they're older
>younger boys will get taller so the older girl will like them eventually
all this cope to move the goalpost from "katara didn't care about these things." kek
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>>151794002
>Katara herself of course because she honestly did more to resolve conflicts than Aang ever did.
Are you for real?
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>>151794114
>the standard for good diplomacy is being able to trick two packs of retards
Grim
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>>151794145
All that means is that Aang wasn't on her radar yet, not that she finds him ugly. The bottom line is, she eventually falls for him so obviously him being bald and short isn't a problem for her and you have nothing to support the notion that it would be.
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>>151794111
and your choosing to ignore the characters own statements. he didn't show interest in those other bendings until way after he was resolved to be the avatar. equating any of them to the one element he loved long before that as being the same isn't supported by the show itself.
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>>151794146
Hell yeah I'm for real fucking Katara was being a better Avatar than Aang was throughout the whole goddamn show inspiring people to resist and be better than their current conditions allow them to be.
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>>151794164
And note that it was only this one time.
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>>151789203
As a male fan im not mucb ibto that ship as well. Zutara makes more sense. O think toph and aang would be cute together.
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>>151794189
>not that she finds him ugly
you're the one saying this not me. he doesn't have to be ugly to not be attractive to her kek
>she eventually falls because the plot said so
anything else? "it happened in the show therefore it's good" is the argument of a dullard. we know what happened, the writing for it sucked was the point.
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>>151794231
Careful, people will try to convince you that guys cant possibly think this, it has to be le femoids.
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>>151794257
No, but I will point out how he can't spell
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>>151794240
>"it happened in the show therefore it's good"
Is not my argument, my argument is Katara is never shown to be shallow or dismissive towards Aang's height or lack of hair. Let me put it this simply, her saying "I'd like to marry someone tall" is not her saying "I'd never marry someone short".
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>>151794164
Good thing they're were both all illiterate with no written history.
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>>151794212
Go down the list
What rescues does Katara lead that end in success because of her?

I like Katara but I think her numbers would be like half of Aang's at best.
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>>151790959
I felt like Sokka was the dad
but he was also my favorite character
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>>151794205
>he didn't show interest in those other bendings until way after he was resolved to be the avatar
This is a useless benchmark since that's something which happens in the second episode. What's more, the moment Aang starts to accept his duty to learn Waterbending directly involves Katara. He's elated at the idea of learning it together with her.
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>>151794342
>
if you cant grasp how growing to like something that was an obligation and genuinely liking something from the beginning aren't the same, i cant help you.
>He's elated at the idea of learning it together with her.
a soft admission of a how shallow his actual interest in waterbending is. for katara its literally her way life.
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>>151794624
You're really just hellbent on tearing down Aang and glazing Katara at all costs huh? Yeah sure was shallow of Aang to want to share an experience with the girl he liked. You're acting as if Aang had to be begrudged into learning the 4 elements when that was the one aspect of being the Avatar that he was more than ok with.
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>>151789203
Aang's two major character traits are that he's a kid and that he's a monk, both of which are poison to shipping for obvious reasons.
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>>151794303
>What rescues does Katara lead that end in success because of her?
Most of them? Think about it, who rallied the imprisoned earthbenders to fight back? Who fought for an fire nation village as the painted lady? Who defeated azula and saved zuko?
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>>151789203
Aang is too young. He is literally a prepubescent child and she is a teenager. That kind of age gap at those ages is huge.
She would have fit with somebody more her age like Zuko.
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>>151794690
>Yeah sure was shallow of Aang to want to share an experience with the girl he liked.
Unironically yeah.
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>>151794690
>strawmen and projection
you pointed out that his interest in waterbending is directly tied to katara. Dont get mad at your self own.
>Yeah sure was shallow of Aang to want to share an experience with the girl he liked.
The experience you yourself said aang starts to accept his duty to learn directly involves katara. because that somehow equates to his demonstrated love for airbending not being tied to any one specific person.
>You're acting as if Aang had to be begrudged into learning the 4 elements
the same aang that literally ran away from doing this, which literally is the reason he ended up in the ice?
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>>151789203
Aang should have gone for Ty Lee
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>>151794793
This might be harsh but the most heroic thing Aang could've done was die with Gyatso ensuring the Avatar Cycle continues. It would've even worked out in that the surviving air nomads would pivot to looking for protecting the next avatar, encouraging active resistance against the fire nation.
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>>151794788
Mind we're talking about the same kid who almost stopped learning it just because his teacher refused to teach katara at the time. Yeah he TOTALLY cared about waterbending as much as airbending. kek
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>>151794812
>Aang should've been a cute girl like Ty Lee.
Ftfy.
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>>151794793
>you pointed out that his interest in waterbending is directly tied to katara. Dont get mad at your self own.
And why is this a problem? Wasn't this whole diatribe started because you claimed Aang never took paid attention to her interests?
>The experience you yourself said aang starts to accept his duty to learn directly involves katara. because that somehow equates to his demonstrated love for airbending not being tied to any one specific person.
That was never what this conversation was about, how did you get on Airbending? We're talking about Waterbending
>the same aang that literally ran away from doing this, which literally is the reason he ended up in the ice?
Aang didn't run away because he didn't want to learn bending stuff, he ran away because the monks were going to seperate him from Gyatso. Did you watch the show?
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>>151794835
Fire Nation Royals who have only know the heavenly mandate to spread the glorious fire nation culture across the world have shown more appreciation of waterbending and the philosophy that underpins water tribe society than fucking Aang has.
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>>151794835
>Yeah he TOTALLY cared about waterbending as much as airbending. kek
When did I ever say that Waterbending was as important to Aang as Airbending was? I just said that he had a mutual interest in it alongside Katara, not that his dedication to Waterbending was equal to hers.
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>>151794844
>because you claimed Aang never took paid attention to her interests?
Which is canon by the way as LoK proved that Aang did not give one fucking shit about his non-airbender kids.
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>>151794844
>Wasn't this whole diatribe started because you claimed Aang never took paid attention to her interests?
that wasn't me, but nice try kek
>That was never what this conversation was about
maybe not with that first anon you talked too, but our convo started here >>151793988 when you equated his love of airbending with a love of bending, which is demonstrably false.
>Did you watch the show?
it's ironic you keep coping with this while ignoring the point over and over that aang himself never wanted to be the avatar. this was the case even before this duty would lead to his separation from gyatso.
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>>151794890
But it's not a mutual interest because Katara takes waterbending way more seriously than Aang does because it's her part of her culture.
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people always forget that katara is pretty awful.
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>>151794902
I'll say this one last time Avatar =/= Bending. Aang wasn't upset to be the Avatar because of the extra bending, it was EVERYTHING ELSE that was the issue. Aang obviously and demonstrably loves to bend. The only time he's shown to be hesitant to bend is with Firebending and that's ONLY after he burnt Katara. Matter of fact it was his over-eagerness with Firebending is what led to that incident in the first place. Like holy shit you could not misinterpret a character harder if you tried.
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>>151794890
is this not you >>151794690 claiming his interest in waterbending wasn't shallow? (you) are the one claiming it was a mutual interest. (it's not see >>151794915)
(you) are also saying that he had a love for bending outside of being the avatar. both of these things are verifiably not true and you have already admitted as much for one of them by saying his interest in waterbending directly involved katara.
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>>151794189
Aang is fucking tall in Korra
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>>151794952
Aang loves to airbend. he held no interest in the other bending styles until it became his obligation to do so. if had shown any admiration for other bending styles besides his own the storm flashbacks, maybe you would have a point. but equating his enthusiam for learning the other bending styles with his love for airbending is a joke. with every single one of them he had interests in them were no where near how attached he was to his airbending. you would think his willingness to stop water and firebending at the drop of a hat (both because of katara kek) would make this obvious.
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>>151789203
I don't know about how shippers feel, but the ending just wasn't written very well. They spent an entire season building up organic chemistry between Katara and Zuko, while Aang became pushy. So the ultimate resolution feels like it came out of left field and artificial.
There's also an element of sacrifice they seemed to build towards with Aang - explicitly saying he needed to relinquish earthly desires to control his avatar state - which was also undone by the ending.
The Aang-Katara pairing doesn't make me angry. It just brings this series back down to earth, in a way. It's a reminder it is anime light, a kid show that wanted to tackle something deeper, but became scared by it. You don't have to kill an enemy you cannot reason with, you do not have to make difficult decisions, you do not have to lose a part of yourself to achieve something greater, and you'll get the girl. As long as you are preordained by fate to be the hero. Cool.
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>>151794956
>>151794915
Just because your interest in something involves somebody else, doesn't make it shallow. If your dad showed you how to fix a car, does that mean any further interest you show in fixing cars from then on is shallow? Again, mutual interest doesn't mean equal intensity or passion for the discipline it just means you're mutually interested in something alongside someone else. Are you really going to bend (heh) over backwards to avoid admitting that Aang and Katara have something in common?
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>>151794985
Saying that Aang loves bending isn't me saying he loved the other bending disciplines as much as Airbending,
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>>151794995
>Just because your interest in something involves somebody else, doesn't make it shallow.
he literally only showed interest in it because of katara and his obligations. the burden of proof is on you to support the idea that he loved waterbending in a vacuum.
again, if aang was shown to hold any attachment to waterbending outside of katara, you would have a point.
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>>151795007
he didn't love the other bending styles. no one who loves something would give it up at the drop of a hat because of someone else.
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>>151789203
Literally no chemistry. Zero romantic scenes.
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>>151795024
Aang never had the chance to take an interest in Waterbending outside of Katara and his obligations. From Aang's perspective he only learned he could Waterbend like that week, why would he take a prior interest in something that's impossible for him to do? That's like a fish taking an interest in aviation
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>>151795045
He definitely didn't hate them or see them as merely an obligation he had to fulfill. And your point only extends to Fire and Water, what about Earth? In his first lesson with Toph he was literally naming off different Earthbending moves he wanted to be taught. And that's his opposite element.
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>>151789427
>So...they're self-inserting?
They always are.
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>>151795055
>holy mental gymnastics
>an entire episode full of flashbacks, and at no point was it ever shown that aang had an interest in the other bending styles after being told he was the avatar.
>several episodes either reference or directly flashback his interactions with other bender friends in the past.
>but there was no time
so he had no interest then
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>>151795106
>"well he didn't hate them"
if that is the best you can come up with, then we're done here kek
>what about Earth?
you watched "hard work" right? earth bending seemed attractive to aang until he actually tried to do it and couldn't just bulldoze through it like with all the other styles. he certainly wasn't pushing on with it because he loved it. it only reinforces the point that his interest in the other elements only go as deep as a kiddy pool.
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>>151795125
>>Entire episode full of flashbacks
This is misleading since half of the flashbacks are dedicated to fleshing out Zuko.
>>at no point was it ever shown that aang had an interest in the other bending styles after being told he was the avatar.
Aang obviously had bigger things on his mind at that point, Roku went through the exact same thing. Don't seriously tell me you'd rather they go the Korra route with Aang's reveal. Moreover, the point of these flashbacks aren't to demonstrate how Aang's really into bending because that's something the audience would already know at that point. It's to expand on his backstory.
>>other bender friends
You mean just Bumi? because we're never told whether or not Kuzan was a Firebender.
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>>151795150
Does anyone ever bother reading these images?
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>>151794895
>reminder that Aangs only reaction to finding out his daughter was gay was "well the airbenders were totally cool with that"
They ignored you for you told the truth.
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>>151795155
The episode is called Bitter Work, tourist, and you make sound like Aang just gave up on Earthbending as soon as it got difficult. As if he didn't persevere through Toph's bullshit the entire day until he eventually unlocked it. Yeah obviously his initial enthusiasm was gonna get under cut once he got smacked with the reality of how difficult it was gonna be, literally anyone would be frustrated at their own lack of progress even if they loved doing something.
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>>151795176
Now I'm not saying Republic City was built just so Aang could have an Air Temple to himself but that's exactly what happened.
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>>151795176
>>151794895
>raped voice: "pl-please give me (yous)"
LOK shouldn't be considered canon, but alright sure. Aang prioritizing Tenzin's training doesn't mean he didn't love his other children.
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>>151795223
His kids would beg to differ.
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>>151795246
Well without knowing what exactly went down in the past (it's not like we have a flashback we draw from) it's literally just Kya and Bumi's word against Tenzin's
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>>151795150
>REEEE I was such a nice guy friend to this girl how dare she go and fuck another guy?

Men really are the more romantic sex, guy has a girl smiling, laughing and hanging out with him as friends and he thinks they are soulmates forever.
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>>151789420
>unwilling to rescue the world from a world war because he doesn't want to kill despite he actually killing in older episodes
Based.
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>>151789420
You are balding aren’t you?
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>>151789203
They had zero chemistry or buildup.
While yes it’s true women usually go for the bad boy ship,
The main thing was much the same as with the end of korra.
The ship came out of nowhere and subverted the expected relationship.
They had a little brother vibe with aang going.
Him beeing more childish, ofthen irresponsible and less mature gave katara an older sister dynamic with him, dragging him out of his antics.
The pairing could have worked.
With jet they had them actively flirting, zutara works for women in their retarded „he wanted to kill me so it’s hot“ logic.
However if they had shown katara suddenly seeing aang in a different light in the final season.
Kind of going „holy shit he’s not a kid, he’s the actually this mystical force“ would have gone a long way.
But they never showed her getting flustered over him and they never showed them beeing flirty so the kiss at the end just came out of nowhere
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>>151790965
>tokka not popular
Foids are retards.
It’s the best one. But I guess sokka got a rough deal, nothing he does to get on the level of benders works, so he is seen as incompetent which might make him seem unattractive.
But toph dropping the tomboy facade around him is kino and I’m mad they pulled out some literally who for tophs kids in the sequel
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>>151791038
The amphibia Thread has you covered
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>>151790965
It’s just women seething over muh age gaps (even though it’s only like a 4 year age gap.) They get so mad when you point out that Sokka definitely could have fathered Suyin.
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>>151789203
Katara was 14 and Aang was 12 at the beginning of the series. Also Aang was from several generations ago, like if you met your great grandpa as a kid. He was cool and popular but also goofy and out of place.
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>>151789203
Correct me if I'm wrong, but girls don't like guys who could be their little brothers
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>>151789203
It was fine when you were younger and you didn't think much about these things, but there's very little in the way of an actual relationship dynamic and things never really got off the ground for them. They clearly didn't give it much thought or focus and just kind of went "and then they fucked in the end".
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Aang is orphaned and has no family.
Katara at least has her brother.
Together they are almost a family which they all need.

They are both young and their hormonal childish crushes are clearly immature based relating to most their age and not the foundation of anything long term.
Ruining what they have as a family of subkings for short term flings that would leave the family sibling connection akward and in jeopardy would be foolish.
She is basicly his mother in the way an older responsible nurturing sister that takes care of her siblings because the real mother is gone would be.
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>>151789203
They didn't, at least not all of them. Its just that people into zutara never shut the hell up about it so it ends up seeming like the majority.
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>>151796703
>YOU...tonight
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>>151797038
> katara at least has her brother
And her father, and her grandmother.
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>>151789203
Because even as young as they were they understood that Katara was being pressured to settle for Aang as a reward for Aang saving the day.
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>>151789420
aang isn't bald, he shaves
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>>151790256
This is one of the few boards with high numbers of female posters and I guarantee that the ones saying that are all female.
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>>151797278
Well buddy if enough girls are saying it then it must be true.
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>>151790256
>I can’t understand what people mean by chemistry
Then you’re either autistic or ESL.
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>>151789203
I didn't I just didn't care about shipping at all as a kid. Like I get it now but back then? Fuck no, I'd rather see action or talking animals.
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>>151797278
Do women not understand how relationships work?
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>>151798515
They understand, that's why they like Zuko and Katara better.
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>>151797705
But I do understand what women mean by chemistry, and explained it perfectly.

Also the whole topic is just pic related
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>>151798515
No, all they care about is their pussy being wet. You can explain to a cunt that her bf is a womanizer who sees her as a disposable fuck toy and she will get very angry and call you a jealous small dicked loser or some shit.
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>>151798726
why cant men and women just meet in the middle?
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>>151789203
The only good romance in this show is Sokka and Suki because the show barely focuses on it. Every time they try to "flesh out" a romance it turns to shit
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>>151798726
>>151798778
>>151798809
So in this scenario Kataang is a men's romance while Zutara is a women's romance?
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>>151798832
men don't like kataang either, except for mommyfags, maybe
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>>151798832
Zuko isnt even abusive towards Katara, I suspect Zutara is really because Zuko is just sexier than Aang
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>>151798843
Its a 2 year age gap and Katara is barely a few inches taller than Aang
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>>151795187
>muh you miss titled the episode
>strawman
is that all you can do, make petty ah hahs and misrepresent what was said because you know you cant refute it? once he actually encounters any difficulty with the other bending styles or they inconvenience him/katara, it can be seen how much he “loves” the other styles… he doesn’t. his interest in them is superficial at best. bending is more than liking cool moves.
>muh tourist
the deflection of a typical netflix covid era fan.
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>>151795268
>against tenzins
Ok well Tenzin himself conceded that they were right to feel that way so cased closed kek
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>>151798809
That’s actual IRL romance
But most people consider it boring for a story.
Seriously this is 90% of straight relationships.
Lovey dovey in public, choking, slapping, biting and humiliating in the sheets.
t.married anon



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