Nu-batman writers doesn't give a fuck about non-Joker villains(maybe Riddler and Penguin) and is sad because the only time Two faces wasn't ignored were fighting Dick or leading Jason's Task force

>>151795655
I always interpreted him as symbolizing Bruce's black and white dualistic worldview taken to the logical extreme, and the ridiculous idea of quite literally a binary choice answer to applying justice in a complex world.

>>151795655
>the fear of Bruce losing his humanity to Batman into something that can't ever be a whole human being again
doesn the fact that he thinks batman is the real him go against this

>>151795655
>>151795793
>the fear of Bruce losing his humanity to Batman into something that can't ever be a whole human being
>I always interpreted him as symbolizing Bruce's black and white dualistic worldview taken to the logical extreme
Don't care, I prefer him as an even flatter and more one note joke about hypocrisy of the judiciary.

Most Batman villains suck about as much as Spider-Man's. His whole rogue's gallery is carried by like three or four everyone knows or likes. Animated series was an exception.

>>151795802
Batman is the darkness that was born from the trauma of Bruce losing his parents, whereas Bruce still remains as the human and light side of him that reminds him of why he does what he does for justice and why he can't give into the darkness entirely. Two- Face is essentially a parody of Bruce/Batman, a man who's own trauma has more visibly left his psyche broken.

It's why I think more stories should focus on why Batman feels so sympathetic to Harvey, because he is looking at a more extreme version of himself

>>151795655
He's gotten some good stories over the years but he's not as popular as Joker who at his most one dimensional can still draw in people and money.

>>151795793
I don't understand people that say Batman has black and white morality, evidently he believes in redemption because he doesn't kill criminals because he hopes they can be rehabilitated.

>>151795846
Batman Rogue shine during the Len Wein and O'neil tenure as editors because
>Death mean something
>They benched the known villains
>Has a group of writers that spent years writing the character.
After that being a Batman writer became something people use to get free money and them live from It , so why giving a fuck about clayface, Mr Freeze or others villains when they can do the definitive Joker story?
Post Rebirth Superman or flash has many problems but at least I feel writers want to use the villains

>>151795655
He might get properly used again after the new film

>>151795926
I wonder how often is that used as the reason as opposed to the "if I started killing I wouldn't be able to stop" one?

>>151796044
Depends on how edgy the writer of the specific run wants to make Batman

>get someone with luck powers
>pay them to be Twoface's wrangler as they use their luck powers to force every coinflip into heads
Give me one reason why this wouldn't work?

>>151795926
>>151796044
I like when he also doesn't kill because of the trauma from witnessing his parents die

>>151795655
His character design with the double suit is too cartoony

>>151796051
luck powers are rare

>>151795655
I thought Bruce losing himself to Batman was mirrored with Red Hood?

>>151795655
He had a recent series that was trying to reheat the dichotomy between Harvey and Two Face, but it got kind of meandering.

>>151796171
No, Red Hood was originally what if Batman killed people, and then they spent 20 years botching the character with zero direction

>>151795926
You can blame Frank Miller's deconstruction of Batman for that one

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There's more missed potential.
In Two-Face's original comics he was presented more as a wild card. Completely unpredictable as the coin was always 50/50 on him doing the right thing or the wrong thing. Instead the writers always rely on Two Face's coin having the worst outcome possible rather than taking advantage of it and allowing full a for spectrum of stories involving his duality.
Shit Two Face should do more often
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w1Ax3UESW0
Team up with Batman, every so often Two Faces coin aligns and the pair of them join forces once more as old friends should. But it always ends half the time with Harvey backstabbing Bruce and half the time peacefully going to Arkham/escaping.
Have Two Face call off his schemes now and then or go back to donating some of his profits to charity.
Have him occasionally spare people just the same as killing them as the coin is arbitrary.
Have him assist only to betray only to assist or betray again.
You should never be able to get a read on this guy, he should be the Revolver Ocelot of Batman.
Flip a coin every once and a while writing a Two Face story and make him feel unique rather than ignoring how a 50/50 shouldnt come up 75% bad.

>>151795722
>leading Jason's Task force
Which one was that? It sounds like one I read but probably like 10 years ago when I was on my worst work-time era and everything just went through my mind

>>151795655
I love that time he sees Bruce and calls him "ol' Brucey never gave up on me" like holy shit were they good bros in the BTAS

>>151795655
Sorry we gotta make another movie about the Joker

>>151796486
The next movie is about Harvey tho

>>151796354
As with most things

>>151795655
Poor Harvey

>>151795655
If it were me, I'd write a chaotic Harvey who can only use a certain coin. Batman would beat him up and destroy the coin, leaving Harvey directionless. Harvey would collapse. "What should I do?" Harvey would ask. "What do you want to do?" Batman would ask. "I don't know! I don't know..."
No longer a threat, Batman would leave Harvey alone for the police to come pick him up. Harvey would be listless in Arkham Asylum. Eventually his hunger would force him to crawl up to his plate and eat. He would start being motivated by his needs. Then his emotions. He would struggle to untangle hos feelings so as to realize his direction. He would escape Arkham Asylum and become a new masked vigilante or villain. No longer Two Face but a guy being driven by his emotions that he is trying to make sense of. He would develop an agenda and cross paths with Batman again and again. Through his adventures and trials he would finally regain his agency and sanity. He would get facial surgery and rejoin society as an influential person trying to affect positive change. Thus rebooted, I would leave Harvey for the next writer to turn him into Two-Face while making no mention that he used to be Two-Face in the past.

>>151796211
I don't know, I thought it was kind of fresh. Re-framing Harvey's goal of "redemption" as delusional and selfish and Two-Face being the reckless, yet true underdog of the series. Though I would've liked Two-Face solving more court cases involving villains. That lends well to a serialized approach.

I didn't care for both of the "daughters", though, and the eventual appearance of Batman was underwhelming.

>>151795655
Character analysis? On my coomer board?

>>151796378
Task Force Z. It came out earlier this year.

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>>151795655
SUPERMAN connected character thru and thur