>"You see, you're a good guy that protects people and I'm a mass murderer that kills people for no reason and commits terrorism and robs banks, therefore me and you are exactly the same"Do you think Nolan ever read a single comic book, or even his own script, before writing this retarded shit?
Melvins brother was kind of retarded
>>151796646Uncs thought this was the greatest movie scene of all time
>>151796646The public perception of these characters has never recovered after Alan Moore shat out the killing joke
>>151796712>the public>the killing joke
>>151796646Charismatic lunatics say a lot of crap. His actual point though is that they could have been the same under slightly different conditions. Which isn't necessarily true but could get under law and order type's skin. It's the chaos position. The nothing and everything is deserved position.
>>151796787Except you can say that to literally everyone so his point is completely retarded that they are similar or complete one another
>>151796646To be fair Batman breaks multiple laws.>Vigilante assaulting people>Physically torturing people for information>Ignoring miranda rights>corporate embezzlement>Breaking international law to kidnap an individualSure he doesn't kill any body but he's absolutely a criminal.
>>151796815Do you know what symbiosis is?
>>151796852something something who changes the bat mobiles tyres and how does superman fly
>>151796815>Except you can say that to literally everyoneI believe he says that in the film, actually. The joker I mean. Or something similar.
>>151796646To be frank, I'm convinced most villains say shit like that not because they remotely believe it, but because they know it gets under the skin of the heroes who actually worry if they're doing the right thing or not
>>151796885It doesn't go both ways, Bruce doesn't want to be Batman, he has to be, as a result of the world and as a result of his own trauma
>>151796910I love it when the villains are blatantly saying outrageous shit to fuck with the hero's head instead of actually believing in what they say.It makes them feel more actively malicious rather than deluded.
>>151796646>you're a good guy that protects peopleBatman is a billionaire who decided to take it upon himself to be a vigilante and personally assault petty criminals to "make his city a better place." This is 'justice' existing completely outside of the legal system, he can not be held accountable for things he does or the people he brings to his 'justice'. To the detriment of his personal life he has devoted all of his money and effort to becoming this one man big brother, and has failed to even improve his city in a marginal way. There are many ways a man in Bruce Wayne's position can help his city that would be less destructive and less dangerous, and he chooses to dress up as a bat and beat people who usually have no course in life other than being a goon to some fat mob fuck, because he hasn't moved on from being the little boy who saw his parents being shot
>>151796646He didn't say that
>>151796646The guy who enables and protects the lives of mass murdering terrorists is worse than the terrorists themselves, yes.
>>151797029https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwkgVMb-bV0escalation
>>151796646Joker being full of shit is like a core aspect of his character. This very movie outright shows that his entire "Two boats" plan fails because he refuses to acknowledge that regular people are capable of basic morality even in a life or death situation.
>>151796646Joker wiped out the mob single-handedly, and exposed the corruption in the gcpd. He did what Batman never had the balls to do
>>151796646Both their ideologies are spurred on from the same realization>the world is corrupt and terrible. The cops aren’t helping. The people in charge pretend like they’re infallible gods but really they’re flighty, pathetic animals and I’m going show that to everyone. Obviously they went very different ways with it
>>151797029>and has failed to even improve his city in a marginal wayIn a city that takes and takes and all those goons are ingrates who would spit in the face of charity would you blame him?
>>151796712lolnothat was Injustice's fault, the games and the comics caused irreparable damage to DC
>>151797160Batman beats his villians to an inch of their lives and tries to keep them incarcerated. It's not his fault that the courts never give out the death penalty his rouges
>>151796895>who changes the bat mobiles tyres Bruce or Alfred does maintenance on the batmobile. This was always a stupid question
>>151798078Realistically Batman needs a whole ass maintenance crew to keep his gear in tip top shape. Even infantry soldiers have factory workers building their arms while they are out in the battle field.
