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why is this matchup popular? do people just want to give Strange a pity win?
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I'm so fucking brown...
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>>151800613
where does touhou scale exactly
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>>151800634
universal I guess, multi-universal at the highest
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Reddit? I post there
Twitter? I post there
Instagram? I post there
Tik tok? I post there
Instagram? I post there
YouTube? I post there
Snapchat? I post there
Ifunny? I post there
9gag? I post there
Tumblr? I post there
Deviantart? I post there
4chan? I thrive there
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>>151800634
5 universal + etc but still will lose against a random resident evil character because is one of the writers self insert.
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>>151800634
'bout 41%
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>>151800650
Facebook bros?...
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This would be better than Bowsegg.
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Reimu's other matchups aren't exactly thematic or fair, this one at the very least looks interesting. It also ensures that Touhou gets max wank right away and wins all of its future matchups, not sure if Touhoufags care about that.
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>>151800678
MySpaceToms?
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I want more mecha, specifically "real" mecha so the research is all about technical aspects like armor, ammo, mobility and survivability instead of generic speed/power/hax.
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>>151800679
And by better I mean worse than a video of Bowser on his own.
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>>151800689
Not really sure who you could put a scopedog up against but it would be cool
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>>151800689
Jet Jaguar vs Gipsy Danger
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KEKYCHOOKY
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>>151800685
Fuck off and kill yourself troon.
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>>151800720
kill yourself listtroon
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>>151800679
>eggman summoning multiple parallel universe versions of himself
>eggman summoning dark gaia and solaris
>using his cloned shadow army
>calls his daughter to summon the titans
might be fun
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>>151800720
>>151800728
I am listtroon
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>>151800728
Kill yourself listtroon.
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>>151800685
You literal retard. Reimu's best matchup is Sayo/Pocky from KikiKaiKai/Pocky and Rocky.
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They’re making fun of us bros…
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>>151800685
Reimu already has a much better matchup against Dante that works pretty much perfectly and I'm pretty sure their "scaling" isn't too off once you include loreshit too. The only issue being that Dante was fed to Clive recently, so it can't happen for a while. You vill enjoy ze Sakuyaslop instead.
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>>151800685
reimu vs naruto
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>>151800679
Kaiba wouldn't even stand a chance, would he?
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some Duel Links lore in this new card.

Dimension Linker
Level 8 LIGHT Cyberse/Normal ATK 2500 DEF 2000
Duel Dimension System activated
A proud swordsman born in the ocean of neurons who has traveled through nine dimensions.
Her sword, which has fought alongside countless duelists, is not for severing but connecting.

People's thoughts are linked across time and space
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>>151800654
>Pokedex
The Pokedex gives it better feats for its temperature than Rath's own flames, but not really anything else.
>Origins
The Mewtwo in that series is entirely featless but sure I guess that's technically correct
Yugi vs Ash has shown they're much less willing to cross scale canons with Pokemon like that though
>because a majority of those powerful moves come from Kinship attacks
I'm aware but it would literally just be the same thing as Charizard gaining Mega or G Max from a trainer. The whole point is to have Charizard and Rathalos at their "strongest". That's why I'm asking what difference would it really make to have Red and Lute or whomever in the fight.
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>>151800768
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>>151800775
obelisk would carry his team, unless he uses the virus or something
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>>151800775
A single spell or trap card solos Eggman's army.
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>>151800775
I mean-
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>>151800801
They're not monsters, they're robots.
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>>151800679
Can't Sage just hax Kaiba to death since everything he does relies on tech?
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>>151800777
>Pokedex
No, I wasn't talking about the pokedex as a feature, I meant, he could have fought Mewtwo to complete his pokedex. That's how he fought Mewtwo if we are using game logic.
>Trainer and Rider
So that Rath can actually get to use Kinship moves. But if you feel like it's not necessary, ok then.
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>wins
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>>151800839
So they're machines?
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>>151800864
in theory she should be able to but then again it's Kaiba and his autism lets him do the impossible
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>>151800864
Nope Kaiba has summoned Obelisk from beyond the afterlife through sheer autism.
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>>151800864
kaiba is the most skilled hacker in his universe, capable of hacking reality itself and visiting the after life.
I think he'll be fine.
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>>151800864
Post Sage inventing the ability to go to the afterlife and I'll believe she can hack KaibaCorp technology.
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>>151800892
That was just Obelisk, not all his cards
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>>151800837
You're joking right? No one wants Ash back.
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>>151800873
>he could have fought Mewtwo to complete his pokedex
I don't think it's ever stated Red completed the Pokedex outside of a throwaway line from Oak that kind of implies it, and even then there's no indication he would have used Charizard to do such a thing
>if you feel like it's not necessary
I don't really know why you're getting hung up over this. Rathalos vs Charizard would likely be Ratha vs Charizard controlled by a trainer who could give it it's best forms, like Red. Not much more to this.
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>>151800878
No, they're robots.
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>>151800864
I think Aigami did something similar in DSOD and Kaiba just said "fuck you". Even then, Kaiba's technology Is so fucking advanced that I wouldn't be surprised if he had a firewall installed.
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>>151800787
>the only halfway popular matchup he has is fucking raditz, who he actually outskills, but gets statstomped unless raditz is feeling humble
When was the last time DB did two relatively "weak" characters? Dan vs Satan?
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>>151800967
I guess Tom vs Coyote kinda?
Yeah they're niggaversal but Dan and Satan also aren't really weak
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>>151800967
James Bond vs John Wick
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>>151800984
Well I'm talking about being weak relative to the verse. Out of those, I guess they'd count as "weak" but it's specifically the ridiculous slapstick kind of weak instead of genuine weakness/shortcut taking you'd expect of a weak character.
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>>151800955
I'll have to check the movie again
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>*SSSSCCCRRREEEEOOOOOO- wait is that a WW2 era plane filled with small explo- ACK!"
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>>151801004
The funny thing is that I think the closest might be Omnidock, as both are fairly "weak" by the endgame stages of their story. Omni Man less so obviously but you know what I mean
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>>151801035
>I'LL SEE YOU IN THE SEQUEL, FUCKFACE
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What Death Battle fighters would you want to take on a fishing trip?
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>>151801176
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>>151800613
I don't think is all that popular.
Still the point of this fight is that it would allow DB to give Reimu the full Touhou wank package ensuring that any future Touhou character would scale to that (as a lot of characters can fight Reimu)
Since most 2hufags don't care about Marvel at all the fact that Reimu would lose is irrelevant, all that matters is that the wank would be validated by DB
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>>151801176
Makima, I want her to use me as bait and torture me.
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Surprisingly close
https://bangsbangingblogs.blogspot.com/2025/12/bangs-blogs-vecna-vs-doctor-doom_8.html
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How high would he scale?
Could he beat Asta?
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>>151801176
Goku is pretty good at fishing so him
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Here's Reimu's best matchup. Prove me wrong.
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>>151801160
Watch out they might have Cold War era planes by then!
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>>151801233
Not surprised about the verdict other than people actually voting Vecna. I wonder how Doom going 3-0 would fare.
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>>151801237
Asta’s crush is a holy virgin so Deku would have the superior BetterMan powers
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>>151801176
Most anyone from a video game that has a fishing minigame would be a good time.
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>>151800689
>>151800703
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>>151800685
>>151800735
Kill yourself listtroon.
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Someone needs to crush my ass womb RIGHT NOW!!!
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>>151801338
I remember that we talked about this matchup a few months ago and generally I think it depends on who the pilot is (more specifically in the scopedog) and where the fight happens. Like Chirico could turn around any fight, but if it's just a generic soldier, or a perfect soldier, it's more debatable. The timber wolf is also way larger so it's going to work better on a flat field, while the Scopedog could ambush with its mobility advantage in basically any other environment.
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>>151801409
Sonic...
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>>151801418
Generics probably work best because there's no Battletech pilot who matches up well with Chirico
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>>151801271
Isn't Vecna normally favored?
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>>151801270
Nah, they're getting the Right Brother's plane.
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Speaking of Sonic...
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>>151801561
It's the only one of Doom's big matchups that he could conceivably lose but for the most part I think it's just copium and people really not wanting Doom to go 3-0
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MY LOVELY HEROES!
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When is HE going to be in Death Battle?
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>>151801673
https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Emperor_of_Mankind
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>>151801418
I'm guessing the scopedog takes speed while the timberwolf takes raw firepower right? Not familiar with battletech so I'm just assuming they're not very mobile
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>>151801685
Whenever Games Workshop loosens up on fan animations. DB might do some kind of testing the water to see if it's safe to do Warhammer 40K with the recent surge in content its had but it's a risk
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So Pokebros it might not be as ogre as it is. Liko's growing as a battler and employing more ruthlessly pragmatic strategies, but apparently her gimmick is that she has a pendant which contains an ancient evil that will destroy the world if let out. That might give us parity against Jaden's fusion with the tranny
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>>151801673
They’re too scared to use Noctis, that’d mean giving FF another win
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>>151801707
Literally no one even slightly wants Liko vs Jaden
>b-but I d-
You don't exist
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>>151801707
Liko will showcase mind control resistances in the next episodes, trust the plan
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>>151801685
If WH40k gets on they'd probably do Titus first because he has the most visual media and a high quality model to pull from, and his matches are against popular characters. A space marine is also the most recognizable part of 40K
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>>151801722
I don't want this as an episode but it's a fun Shitpost
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>Death Battle choosing between another Makima episode or Bakugou vs Reze
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>>151801756
Fuck off listtroon
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>Bring me Miguel!
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>>151801775
Bakugo vs Reze is probably better than Alucard getting raped again
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>>151801775
Makima would only come back whenever CSM season 2 is finished and if they want to do her vs like, Alucard or Funny Valentine or something
(I remember a researcher once mentioning they wanted to do her vs Jesse from Control)
Bakugo vs Reze is free views
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Pokemon won because more people are bringing up pokemon MUs than Yu-Gi-Oh MUs
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>>151800634
Planet level. Touhou is filled to the brim with antifeats and the best feat they have is a non-canon ending where the planet explodes.
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>MHAshit
>CSMshit
No thanks.
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>>151801819
Aside from Jaden vs Ben, what other potential MUs for Yugioh are there?
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>MHAgold
>CSMgold
Yes please.
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>BnHGOLD
>CSMGEM
Yes please
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>>151800765
MissingNo vs Digimon...
Stomp??
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>>151801870
Upvoted!
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>>151801868
>>151801870
>t.
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>>151801775
It's going to be Bakugou vs Reze, it's the hot topic
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>>151801870
>CSMGEM
Hal...
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>>151801888
>>151801903
>having other men saved on your PC
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>>151801888
He is....a better man.
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>>151801882
Does missingno even have feats?
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>>151801847
Suika destroying heaven is still the best feat since it doesn't come with any caveats.
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>>151801911
...on Reddit.
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>>151800679
>Shadow Loses to Mewtwo
>Shadow regularly beats Eggman
>Yugi beats Ash who scales above Mewtwo apparently
>Kaiba scales to Yugi
>Kaiba wins.
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>>151802014
And Twitter, and most places where the general audience congregates
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Reminder Sonic RAPES and GAPES Goku and his entire verse
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>>151802047
>the general audience has shit taste
We know.
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How high does Ansem (Blackface) scale?
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>>151801819
>Bahamut vs Rayquaza
>Grovyle vs Lucina
>Charizard vs Rathalos
>Mewtwo vs Shadow 2
Is there much else that's actually serious? I really dislike Lusamine vs Ragyo but I know why people do want it I guess.
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>>151801703
>Whenever Games Workshop loosens up on fan animations
ttsbruvas...
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>>151802072
And that's why they gotta follow that taste to get the audience and numbers they want
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>>151802072
As opposed to their niche audience that asks for Hatsune Miku and Sonic.EXE episodes?
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>>151802086
Aren't there a few Arceus matchups that are debatable/wins now thanks to true form instead of Arceus getting folded like a chair?
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>>151801517
Yeah, probably. But then it's down to the environment. If you wanna have a cool battle I'd guess they'd do something that lets it smoothly shift and accommodate both. The Timber Wolf could realistically keep some distance to draw out the Scopedog from cover and bombard any plausible cover.
I think if DB did it they'd probably have to pick Chirico to draw a dime from a few of the ancient mecha fans that might be interested, in which case it probably wins regardless.
>>151801692
The Timber Wolf is like 12m tall (building sized) while the Scopedog is closer to 4m (tank sized), and it's also way heavier than the Votoms mech. The Scopedog probably takes both firepower and overall range in the process, as well as armor. They are actually similar in top speed, but the Timber Wofl is far less mobile (Scopedogs can roll around on skates, move like humans, drop from massive heights and absorb the impact and climb) and is mostly fast because it's big. But the question is then a multitude of things
Does the Scopedog get Roundmover to distinguish it as being able to fly, potentially allowing it to use the mobility effectively enough to fight in the open with the Timber Wolf? I think DB would do it because it'd make the match into less hide/seek and more about threading the needle with dodging the Wolf's armaments to close in.
If an ambush can be performed, is there anything that prevents a mission kill or a proper kill by the Scopedog? I think an underrated aspect of the matchup is that Scopedogs and other Votoms mechs actually engage in H2H from time to time and can melee when they don't have weapons to point or can't move in time. Given the Timber Wolf is like 3 times the size, the Scopedog could literally start climbing the Battletech mech without much resistance.
Would probably be easier to figure out if I can dig up some calcs for Battletech.
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>>151802149
The only one I can think of is Zeedmillenniummon, but that's because he's been dragged through the mud thanks to Toei dicksucking Tamer's head writer and his temper tantrum over needing to, gasp, cross promote a series that's about cross promotion.
Which even then the only reason that was an MU was because it was Strongest Pokemon vs Strongest Digimon and the former has changed hands
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>>151801819
>>151802086
Pokefags REALLY like to be humbled don't they?
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>>151802149
There have always been Arceus matchups but I don't think any are particularly good
Arceus vs Aslan is probably the best (where even true form Arceus gets stomped kek) but the big issue is that Arceus isn't really a "character" so much as he is a plot device that shows up disparately so for most of the episode you're just talking about Pokemon as a whole instead of Arceus itself. The same thing is true of a lot of his opponents including Aslan unfortunately
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>>151802180
>but that's because he's been dragged through the mud thanks to Toei dicksucking Tamer's head writer and his temper tantrum over needing to, gasp, cross promote a series that's about cross promotion.
???
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>>151802086
>Grovyle vs Lucina
why though
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>>151802209
Remember Trunks vs Silver? It's like a faggier version of that.
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>>151802235
But why Grovyle specifically, why the middle form evolution?
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>>151802209
Time traveling princesses who disguised themselves as men and want to save the world
Personally I always thought this was gay but the only other Lucina matchup is Saber and its a listtroon matchup so I'd rather have another Pokemon match
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>>151802206
anon thinks Lain's writer is at fault here
jesus, imagine saying this when toei has ignored him for the most part
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>>151802188
The major problem with Aslan in battleboarding is that he's supposed to be Jesus which means he's immediately outerversal and having him job to any other outerversal character is impossible of the implications of having IRL scaling due to being a religious figure and not just a fictional character.
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>>151802209
Mystery Dungeon Grovyle was a time traveller
desu I like it cause I'm nostalgic for the mystery dungeon games but it's a turbo niche match
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>>151802246
Mystery Dungeon
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>>151802206
Tamer's head writer Konaka was told to write in Ryo from the Wonderswan games to help cross promote it since the Digimon anime was at it's peak so why not, but he hated doing so and because the Wonderswan as a console flopped Toei has completely sided with Konaka in hating the games and since Zeed was the main villain and Ryo's true destined partner he got got in the crossfire.
Ever since then his two anime appearances was him jobbing to Wargreymon getting a Spirit Bomb amp from the other Crests in the 2020 remake and in Ghost Game where he just flat out lost in a 'shoot the weak point' tier screwjob.
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>>151802246
It's referring to Grovyle from Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, a world where Pokemon are just the only characters who have societies and shit. The Grovyle in that game series is a time traveler who comes back in time to try and save the world from getting destroyed
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>>151802254
At the point where you have omnipotent characters as part of a death battle you have to ask "how do we make this entertaining"?
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>>151802206
Not sure about the rest of that post but Zeed has been put through a humiliation gauntlet over the last 2 animes where he was a one and done story in ghost game and where he got spirit bombed by Wargreymon in Adventure 2020.
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>>151802254
Yeah, I know. I do think it's a funny idea for an episode because of the extremely obvious million lions vs Pokemon joke and also because nobody actually knows how busted Aslan would be, people just saw him die when they watched the one movie growing up and obviously don't think of him as some kind of powerhouse.
But yes, it wouldn't make for an actually good episode.
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>>151802180
Who is the currently strongest Digimon?
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>>151802086
Puccy vs Cyrus is unironically good
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>>151802291
Probably Yggdrasil
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>>151802264
>>151802275
You guys know all that is consistent with how he's been portrayed in the games and manga for years right? It's not some Toei conspiracy theory.
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>>151802264
Is it bad that I dislike the whole SMT direction Digimon has taken? I liked the critter farming games.
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Any MUs for her?
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>>151802291
The biggest debate right now is Shoutmon X7 Superior Mode who is Shoutmon basically gattai-ing with every Digimon in the Digital World or Shoutmon GX who is Shoutmon X being the first one to have an Evolved X Antibody and beat Ogudomon X who was mollywopping the X Antibody'd Royal Knights
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>>151802321
*Jesmon GX
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>>151802294
Yeah this isn't bad. Cyrus kind of sucks as a villain and it's a really fucking boring stomp in his favor debatewise but it could make for a fun fight
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>>151802321
Didn't Susanoomon get a lore upgrade recently?
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>>151802318
inb4 Hal Jordan
Hal Jordan
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>>151801863
Not a lot, and its a lot harder to justify matchups for a lot of the characters.

>Yugi can summon monsters for real through dark magic
>Kaiba can through his connection with Kisara, though you can only make a case for Blue Eyes and Obelisk. I doubt he can summon Something like XYZ Dragon canon for real.
>Jaden can summon monsters for real due to his ability to interact with Duel Spirits

Beyond that, characters like Yusei or Jack get a lot more nebulous. You can argue that Stardust and RDA are real through the Crimson Dragon. But they really don't summon them in that capacity ever.
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I may be a m*n by I am a certified size QVEEN who just LOVES getting so many big black dicks up my boy pussy!
*Drops pants and steps onto the train track, stretching my ass wide and bending over as an oncoming diodo shaped train approaches*
You already know my hero~
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>>151800689
Then why listen to Death Battle? They're total hacks who scale like morons.
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>>151802356
Anon what were you thinking as you posted this?
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>>151802343
Yuma is basically the strongest YGO protag right? Shouldn't he have something decent?
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>>151802086
Pokemon has a lot of matchups that technically work but don't really feel grand or good enough for an episode. Some of them are N vs Kaiba, Chaos vs Kyogre, Giratina vs Beelzebub, Shedinja vs Sans, Incineroar vs King, any starter BRs, and Zygarde vs Cell
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>>151802364
Starforce Megaman is his best one
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>>151802343
Isn't Kaiba's DSOD duel disk able to make things realz or at least real enough to contend with Diva's magic
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>>151800628
Kratosjeet
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>>151802356
>train track
Yup, he's Indian alright. Probably dalit as well.
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>>151802336
Yeah but even then he's still the combination of only 10 Digimon (only 2 of which are even considered Mega level) and his best lore feat (that I'm aware of) is beating Lucemon, the former is severely outclassed by Shoutmon X7 Superior Mode being and the latter outclassed by Jesmon X being on par with Lucemon X and Jesmon GX surpasses even that.
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>>151802177
I think an interesting matchup if you use Chirico would be Suzaku from Code Geass. The only problem is that the Lancelot is better than any single mech Chirico used and you have to glaze the Scopedog or even the Strike Dog he took from Ypsilon for it to approach any kind of parity. Maybe it'd work with an earlier variant of the Lancelot that doesn't have flight.
Other than that, Suzaku has his Geass to LIVE while Chirico is an abnormal survivor. I suppose that's one way of having a connection.
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>>151802363
He was clearly thinking about Deku
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>>151802362
They've gotten better (still kind of laughable though), but maybe if they tackle something that needs you to look into the specs of what's being used they'll get collectively smarter. Though you could probably do the same with a ship battle like the Thrawn vs Picard one they floated.
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>>151802389
*being composed of 10x as more Digimon
I really need to eat
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I still think a Yokai Watch vs Pokemon would be pretty funny.
People don't realize how broken the YWverse actually is, and seeing the comic relief cat to do it would just be the cherry on top
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> basic multiverse vs r>v upon r>v crack cosmology
> only below light speed because something he threw vs mftl to immeasurable because it flew across space and from its domain
> only been around as long as an middle age man vs millions of years old and is from before time itself
> powers are limited to his domain vs is not
> Actually needs fear or else he can’t do shit vs only after fear because it likes the taste of it
> Actually lost to teens vs only lost to the loses club and the novel makes clear it’s only because of The other/Gan.
> Supporters need to rely on supplmsry materials that contradict the canon (films) vs only book appearance is enough for it to win and kings connected works only makes its odds of winning any higher
Freddy is fucked. Anyone who says otherwise have not actually read Stephen kings works
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>>151798561
>Arceus vs Aslan means Pokemon doesn't even win the endpoint of the "Every Pokemon vs A Trillion Lions" joke
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>actually reading
Why do that when you can make shit up?
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>>151800953
Robotic Knight still gets owned by Crush Card Virus, sad to say
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>>151802306
Yggy is a Host Computer, not a Digimon specifically.
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>check out how powerful X is, he affected DIMENSIONS and his cosmology is BIG
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>>151801685
https://secondapocalypse.fandom.com/wiki/Anas%C3%BBrimbor_Kellhus
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Surprised nobody has brought up Mothra vs Lugia, that was one they did a cast on and it got decent views. I've also seen Zygarde floated as an alternative
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>Bahamut vs Rayquaza means FF is going 5-0
AAAAIIIIEEEEEE STOP THE COUNT
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>>151802451
Still gets RAPED and GAPED by GODnic.
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>>151802470
...which bahamut?
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>>151802475
SISSYnic would job to the Deadlights.
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>>151802470
FF is just a strong franchise overall. It's only weak powerscaling wise games are 10/10-2 and 12 and even 12 can get wanked thanks to Gilgamesh
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>>151802318
Natsu Dragneel
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>>151802464
I hope they don't do Deathwing vs Ghidorah. Deathwing is literally just not compelling enough to award an entire fight to in my opinion and they'll probably just composite Ghidorah with his weird interdimensional versions which will somehow nullify any of the magic Deathwing could pull off. They should do Illidan instead (not with the Genshit character though), unlike Arthas he actually does things after his original expansion.
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>>151802477
If it's a specific one people usually pick Primal Bahamut from FF14
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>>151802477
It would likely just be a soft composite with bigger focus on the major Bahamuts like XIV and maybe excluding Bahamuts like Dion who really are their own characters
Not really any different than how Rayquaza would likely be soft composited but would still use Emerald/ORAS as the "main" one
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>>151802470
>Rathalos unironically might win off the back of Supplementary Media and the spinoffs
Final Fantasy is like the Reverse-Charizard
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>>151802318
Enter...
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>>151802540
If Rath wins because Hunters can fight Omega I'd fucking keel over laughing
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>>151802477
The strongest version, whatever that is. Unless Death Battle wants to choose a weaker version to give Pokemon a pity win.
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>>151802451
Thought this was referring to Alien X specifically geg, wonder if we should make a distinction for "Actually Universal+ On-Screen character getting wanked" vs "City Level Fraud getting wanked via statements"
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>>151802422
I like Freddy vs Vecna a lot, both jump kids in their dreams and job disgustingly bad, plus they have their own worlds or whatever
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>>151802559
It would be Dissidia Bahamut since that's the big Multiversal game
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>>151802548
The speed gap alone gives Yusei the win. Just performing Clear Mind alone makes him MFTL which is above any of Iris' feats. Nevermind BASE Stardust being a Universe tier buster already
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>>151802555
You could probably use this as yet another "hey we maybe shouldn't use supposedly official weird crossover material" to deny Shitzard Masters scaling again
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>>151802526
If it's FF14 Bahamut, he has a more thematic opponent in Deathwing as the dragons who tried to end the MMORPG world
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Does Bahamut even have a remotely popular matchup he loses? Feels like he gets shit significantly below his paygrade that he doesn't have to even bust out multiversal+ wank and can coast off shit like Bahamut Fury alone
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>>151802565
I was actually just referring to any character whose matchup boils down to cosmology wank, it's just very dull in my opinion
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>>151802601

Bahamut never loses. He's king for a reason.
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>>151802548
How retardedly strong is Yusei in comparison to Jaden and Yugi?
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>>151802608
It is a special kind of hell.
Death Battle started it with Ben vs Hal.
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>>151802601
He probably loses to his inspiration, the D&D Bahamut
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>>151802617
>Beerus vs Galaxia
>Ben vs Hal
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>>151802464
Mothra vs Lugia is just "okay". It's another one of those Pokemon episodes which thematically is fine and it's probably an alright fight but doesn't feel like it should be a full episode.
I feel like Bahamut vs Rayquaza is the only fight that gets around that feeling because it's a big fucking dragon fight so it's automatically cool and people generally like Rayquaza and Bahamut pretty well. It helps both of them are featsmen who have done lots of cool shit as opposed to Lugia and Mothra who are...neat, but most of their analysis would likely just be scaling
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>>151802470
>beats Lighting Faron the strongest FF protagonist
>gets 2-0 dub when he fights Sora
I’m really feeling it!
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>>151802601
Not really, there's no prolific enough Dragon in gaming to really match him up with that also is in his weight class
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>>151802589
How well does FF14 Bahamut compare in terms of stats to Deathwing?
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>>151802629
Sora beats him though
X-Blade is bare minimum 3x Universal (Realm of Light, Dark, Nothingness) which is 3x more than what Shulk did when he recreated his home dimension. At best you can wank him to 2x because of the XB1 and 2 Universes but that's still one less
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>>151802601
Shouldn't Alduin do him in?
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>>151802646
Both Shulk and Sora's scaling gets fucking retarded. Shulk in particular with the XB3 DLC
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>>151802616
Well, he never lost a match outside of a flashback from before the main series. Save for one time he technically lost, but he was knocked off his bike and the duel ended before he TRULY lost.
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>>151802643
Bare minimum Continent level (the entire start of 2.0 aka where the game starts now is him having fucked up all of Eorzea which is composed of 4 separate nations)
There's higher tier scaling from him though
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>>151802658
It's funny how Sora already dogwalked Pit at the time of their Death Battle. At this point he has about a thousand ways to oneshot Pit.
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>>151802628
Rayquaza vs Bahamut also has an easy angle to it for a fight with FF14 (dragon who arrives as a cataclysm to save the world vs dragon who arrives to save the world based on humanity's wishes) which gives it an edge
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>>151802464
Mothra vs Rayquaza is better
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>>151802682
>dragon who arrives as a cataclysm to save the world
*destroy the world, typo
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>>151802652
Only if you wanna do lorescaling.
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>>151802677
trvke...
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>>151802652
Oh, I don't think that's a particular popular matchup but yeah that would do it
Hilariously, people put Alduin against DEATHWING a lot more
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>>151802662
>Continent level bare minimum without scaling
What the actual fuck
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>>151802616
He rode his motorcycle into space and summoned Shooting Quasar Dragon
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I'm a multiversal boundless BEAST...but all my opponents barely escape PLANET LEVEL and I look like a SEALCLUBBING, SANDBAGGING STREETHUNTER...
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>>151802662
Why would he definitively beat Ray then? Ray destroyed a continental meteor and has his own higher scaling
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How is a franchise as old as Pokemon still this fucking weak? So many Pokemon but over a thousand of them cap at building level, if that.
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>>151802746
KINGtos...
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>>151802321
If you go by the card game, Shoutmon X7 has the highest DP (17000) in the game compared to Jesmon GX (15000/16000). Of course, those values probably aren't considered set in stone
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>>151802752
Anon we're discussing DW vs 14 Bahamut in this chain.
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>>151802746
The Bear from God of War...
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>>151802761
Yeah I don't think the card is indicative of actual lore scaling, especially since it's becoming more and more obvious that Liberator Level 7s are just repainted Level 6s
Plus they can always just give us a Superior Mode X, which is viable since OmegaShoutmon X already exists
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>>151802757
Blame the creation trio. They blew their load on the strongest lore mons appearing early.
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>>151802662
Shouldn't bare Minimum be Moon level since he was contained in one?
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>>151802643
>>151802662
I think the FFXIV cutscene makes it hard to tell exactly what kind of damage is being done, it's not like Bahamut is instantly turning everything around him into kilometer deep crater. He's launching many many attacks that easily destroy cities and tear up mountains (still pretty good), kind of like a MIRV that launches a bunch of smaller nukes to cover a larger area with precision than one large multi-megaton nuke would. Meanwhile his final attack does not land before he's time traveled away so we're not really sure how strong it is. He could probably get really good with scaling though, meanwhile Deathwing's scaling has probably gotten relatively worse over time since they expanded on the Titanic Keepers and other stuff.
Deathwing in a base state is able to fuck up mountains even 10000 years ago if I recall from the War of the Ancients and he also doubles as a sorcerer and could tango with the other aspects who all scale to him (and he has access to a lot of magic and is a capable sorcerer on that front if I recall). The Cataclysm is pretty good as a feat but it's unclear how long it took him to perform it, but it wasn't done under strain. Based on the End Time dungeon it's hard to tell how badly he would've destroyed the world in its entirety at the end of the expansion but it was at the very least life wiping, to the point where glaciers were just gone from the north of the world and replaced with a charred wasteland- the actual attack being performed basically at the center of the world. He also survived the damage of it long enough to go impale himself apparently.
>>151802696
It was technically fitting, but I think the matchup in and of itself originates from the fact that Cataclysm and Skyrim were released around the same time.
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>>151802752
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQWRAEVPVcc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4UfbrCw3-k
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>>151802805
He did still fuck up that one section of Ishgard so much it's now a perpetual frozen wasteland, and I'm pretty sure he fucked up the Elementals in Gridania, who reminder can reach into the Lifestream which envelops the entirety of Etheriys.
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>>151802804
It's a small moon but much bigger than the one FF14 Shinryu was contained in since that was the living bahamut as apposed to Shinryu who was still mid summoning. I don't think we have an official size for it but the swords that are impaled on the moon look massive
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Okay but what's the WEAKEST RPG series?
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>>151802887
Undertale. The strongest monsters lose to a kid with a stick.
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>>151802757
The franchise peaked at the creation trio and then never introduced any new Pokemon as strong as them
It also took 20 years for them to introduce a multiverse but they never really did much with it besides the excuse to design freakier looking alien Pokemon
The anime is also weirdly allergic to feats that aren't just generic dust clouds. I'm shocked they had that recent Mega Dragonite mountain thing
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>>151802887
Probably Atelier or Valkeryia Chronicles. My money is on the former since it's mostly just Cute Girls doing Cute Alchemy
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>>151802897
Even many of the so-called "Legendary" Pokemon have no real feats to speak of. Even shit like Kyogre who is a threat to the world...but he does it by just making it rain a lot. Not exactly impressive or good in a fight.
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>>151802887
Lisa the Painful
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If they do end up using Composite Bahamut in a fight, what model would they use? Bahamut has a lot of cool designs, it'd be neat if they used a couple of them in a fight like Fury and Sin
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>>151802968
7, 10, or 14.
7 is very traditional and is from one of the most famous games ever, 10 is the most plot relevant one, and 14 is the most feared one
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Tekken AP Scaling
Feats:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Jason_Courne/Devil_Jin_flies_into_space_and_makes_a_big_devil_beam
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Crimson_Azoth/Assorted_Tekken_Feats_-_Tekken
https://youtu.be/qjd_t-KwVy8?si=gi3G6uDmx_pE8dgc

1) God Tier (T8 Devil Reina): High 6-A) 1286 Petatons (Multi-Continent)
Devil Gene multiplier is 24 Times stronger than her base according to Tekken Blood Vengeance Japanese Script
2) Top Tier (T8 Devil Jin): High 6-A) 643 Petatons (Multi-Continent)
Performed said feat
3) Top Tier (T8 Base Jin): High 6-A) 53,5833333 Petatons (Multi-Continent)
Since his Gene was splitted from Kazuya, he should be 12 times weaker than his Devil Form
4) Top Tier (T2 Devil Kazuya): High 6-A) Below 12,8592 Petatons (Multi-Continent)
Kazuya Original Devil Gene should be twice as stronger than he was after the split, overall 24 times as stronger than his base
5) High Tier (T7 Flashback Heihachi): High 6-B+) Below 535,8 Teratons (Large Country+)
Heihachi managed to kill Devil Kazumi, who has a fraction of Azazel Power according to Tekken 8
6) High Tier (T7 Base Kazumi): 6-B) Below 22,32500 Teratons (Country)
24 times weaker than her Devil Form
7) Mid Tier (T3 Gun Jack): At least Low 7-B) 2,779 Megatons (At least Small City)
Gun Jack blocked a laser of this power
8) Low Tier (Tag 2 Roger Jr.): 9-A) 0,01+ Tons (Small Building)
Far superior to Jane
9) Bottom Tier (T8 Jane): 9-A) 0,005+ Tons (Small Building)
Jane was not killed by an explosion of this scale from Jack-8 but was simply blasted away
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>Can't be killed
>can change his opponents backstory
>can give his opponents any weakness he wants
>can change his origin
>breaks the rules any challenge
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>>151802933
Yeah, for featsmen legends it's pretty much just Mewtwo and Rayquaza.
I find it funny that most over the top Pokemon fangames don't even try to boost the powerlevel that much either. It's just not a series that lends well to random ridiculous powerwank that you'd see in other franchises, partly by design.
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>>151802968
I think they might start with 7's design and then either near the climax of the fight have it transforming into 14's
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Dragon Quest scaling is super slept on.
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>>151803007
Excellent
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>>151803007
Watching a video about his feats just sounds like a huge shitpost, it's great. One of my favorites is his ability to make a dimension of infinite landmines.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooNij0P81-g
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>>151802422
Freddy just needs to become a chud to win
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>>151803073
People just can't stay awake while playing the games for research
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>>151802559
Which Bahamut is the strongest one?
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>>151803158
Dissidia, for obvious reasons.
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>>151803158
The one from Dissidia since it's a big multiversal affair.
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>>151803158

Either Dissidia or 14.
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>>151802887
Fear and Hunger
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>>151803086
Is Uncle Grandpa actually that strong?
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>>151803217
He's Universal at best from doing one of those gags where he destroys the universe while doing a mundane thing, in his case shaving stuff
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>>151802911
>Atelier or Valkeryia Chronicles
>Weak
lol this imp right here from Atelier Sophie 2 can warp the multiverse and dream up entie univereses
Valkeria Chronicles is closer to street-tier, but even then, in its weight class it's going to clean house since the few actual mages in the setting are powerful enough to wipe entire armies armed with slightly more advanced 1930s era tech.
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>>151803086
This might end up as a stalemate or being Wile/Tom ver 2 If they actually do this. I think Bobobo can take him.
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>>151803217
He's basically what people think of when they say "toonforce".
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>>151802887
Real answer is probably Omori since it's all just the delusions of a mentally ill kid
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>we're finally getting a bleach pity win! it could only be ichigo vs Yusu-
>Danny Phantom is announced



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