Not really

>>151801391
Never watched this starship troopers wannabe subversion slop and never will

>>151801391
haven't read them, or watched the show

>>151801391
Yeah but i can't see it working as well in the show. Comic omni man killed people in his fight with mark but it was mostly collateral damage and not just deliberately slaughtering people for shits and giggles. The part where he uses mark's face as a battering ram into an oncoming train was added into the show with more emphasis on the loss of life.

Kinda, Space war is fine but personalwise its really undersold. I dont see him getting back with Debbie in the show. Its like if your husband/dad killed a bunch of people, skipped town, started a second family then gave you the bastarf.

>>151801438
Good point.

I am also wondering if the fans of the show will catch on that the story is pro-fascist whole the whole Emperor Mark ending.

>>151801559
Looks more like a neoliberal west dream

>>151801574
Exactly.

>>151801391
No because he tried to kill everyone. There are people that cheat on their spouses or threaten to kill people that never get a second chance.

>>151801669
The whole idea that you can kill a thousand people and just say you're sowwy to be forgiven is based on such a soulless ideal that life is worthless

>>151801391
It was good until he became Emperor. His character totally regressed after that.

>>151801859
Omni man didn't say sorry though because he knew his actions were unforgivable, he instead worked to dismantle and eventually take over the viltrum empire to prevent them from doing more damage.

>>151802168
This

>>151801391
I mean, he never really did anything to make up for the people he killed. He learned to feel bad, sure, but I don't remember him doing anything specifically to make up for his own crimes.

>>151803793
He stopped the empire from doing any more damage to earth

>>151801391
>>151801438
>>151803793
>>151804830
The thing with Nolan is that Mark forgives him but Earth never will
THAT's the thing that prevents it from being bs
It's Debbie forgiving Nolan is gonna be challenging for the show to pull off

>>151804889
Honestly, what he did in the comic made easy as hell to forgive him since most of the casualties were mid battle. The show made it a point that he went out of his way to kill people and some of that was shown.

>>151801411
Why's that?

No. I think the writing of Invincible was fucking retarded throughout. From end to end, every single panel, every single page. It being absolutely fucking retarded, terrible writing for infants, was besides the point. It was like Injustice where you read it because it was a trainwreck.

>>151801391
The comic glosses over his actions. But he's kind of punished by being killed at the end of the series during the final fight against Thragg. So he was kind of redeemed, I don't know, Kirkman liked to play with that tired superhero shit. “Being a hero is bullshit,” damn, that was fucking hype. It's crazy that more people don't read the comic and wait for the dogass amazon show.

Didnt they give up on having him fully 'redeemed' in any normal narrative sense and just use time travel to convince him to change before he did anything too bad?

I like the reboot arc.

>>151806277
That time travel arc didn't actually happen. Mark got sent back in time by an alien and then decided he didn't want to save the Guardians or stop any of the disasters because muh daughter.

Which compares horribly to Superman in For The Man Who Has Everything in retrospect. Unless the point is for Mark to appear to be an irredeemable piece of shit too.

>>151806316
I thought it was fine. The point of this chapter is the aftermath of this chapter with “being a hero is bullshit” where Mark just explodes (no pun intended) with anger and decides that being a hero isn't worth it.

>>151806361
Having your main character that you want your audience to sympathize with say 'fuck them millions and millions of people, I want my infant daughter I've barely spent any time with and who could just as easily exist in this time line instead' isn't really narratively justified.

In fact, it's probably nearer billions. And he would've had years more to prepare for the Viltrumites. He could've potentially just ended up beating down Thragg and taking over without the associated genocides and planet killings. But nah, muh daughter.

>>151801391
half and half, Nolan spent thousands of years killing everything from random planetfuls of people to his own fellow Viltrumites so him being a slightly better dad to Mark before he got killed is good enough

>>151801391
Not really. He kinda gets off scott free, all things considered. Like the only ordeal that he's put through, the loss he's forced to face for the kind of person he was, and the test that he actually cares about people now, is entirely relegated to Bug Planet, which gets tied up pretty quickly and is basically entirely forgotten about. He never really aches for the loss of Andressa afterwards, and instead just enjoys crushing Debbie's puss after she somehow forgave him. It's ridiculous.

>>151801411
Are you sure?

>>151806416
Actually, it's Kirkman being meta and breaking kayfabe. If you notice, Kirkman breaks superhero bullshit kayfabe several times. He makes characters behave realistically, and this is one of those badass/meta/realistic moments. It's just perfect.

>>151806609
Man, you can have no taste if you want, but don't eat shit and say it tastes good.

>>151806648
You're looking at it from a logical narrative point of view. People aren't logical. Mark has been denied happiness ever since his father destroyed half the city when he was revealed to be a genocidal maniac. In that scene, he just exploded. Did you notice that he had doubts about this heroic business ever since his friend had his body destroyed and turned into a machine? From that point on, other atrocities happened and made Mark question his philosophy. Which, honestly, came out of nowhere. Why is Mark a hero, other than because his father was a hero? And after that world-destroying revelation. It kind of makes the whole heroic business seem pointless. Almost like Eve using her power to actually help people, unlike Mark, who pretends to help people.

>>151806286
What do you like about it?