I'm very curious to the uber nerd Marvel/DC fans. So how does the multiverse works if their reality is so vastly different from.. Say, a physical reality like MCU 616 compared to the comic book 616? Do they float in midair as 2D pictures who move? Or is it more like they walk into another reality and they become and translates into what they would look like if they lived and breathed that reality? Since Spider-Ghost was in that TVA comic book run it got me thinking.. Well, that Spider-Ghost was from a comic book universe.. So how and what would she look like in live-action MCU 616? I'm really confused I don't read much comics at all so I wanted to know your thoughts on multiverse interactions work.
>>151826823>Or is it more like they walk into another reality and they become and translates into what they would look like if they lived and breathed that reality? That's generally how they do it for the sake of convenience and not getting into the confusion regarding adding and removing entire dimensions from beings.
>>151826972>That's generally how they do it for the sake of convenience and not getting into the confusion regarding adding and removing entire dimensions from beings.Yeah but I watched the Across the Spider-Verse and saw MCU's the Prowler.. Which is weird. And interesting.
>>151827115Cameos are an entirely different paradigm, anon
>>151827153Yeah I agree with you but the entire film was about the multiverse and different spider-men from other dimensions and now we finna getting Doomsday and Secret Wars.. And he spoke and interacted with Miles.. I get it it's a cameo but having that much of a presence feels like it's linked.. If it happened, it happened in the movie, canon wise.
Hello???
>>151827184Generally, visual cameos are just that, visual Easter eggs and little more.
>>151827323So that scene never happened and not canon? How do you make those distinctions on a case by case basis? In the 15 second scene he interacted with them so I don't know if that still counts.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhkC3-1U5T8
>>151826823At least the animated projects remain cartoons in live-action universes. ATSV has live action interacting with the animation, and during the multiverse hopping scene in MoM, Strange and América Chávez go through a cartoon universe and they become animated.
>>151827376Basically, cameos are fanservice, a bit of flair meant for the fans. Most of them basically require a momentary suspension of the story's internal logic to accommodate them, meaning that MCU Prowler looks that way for the benefit of us the viewers and less so for the sake of story.Basically, "It's just a show; I should really just relax."
>>151827625Ok thanks for clarifying. It never happened, it's not canon to the story at all. I get it now.
>>151827650More like "He just looks that way for the convenience of the viewers, I don't need to overthink it".
>>151827673Wait, so did that event happen in the film or is it just make believe?
>>151827697You're finally getting it, it's all make believe.But for real, if you're being serious, then think of this specific example as a mild separation of story and presentation for the sake of appealing to the viewer.From the presentation side, they used the actor to portray The Prowler there to appeal to the viewer's familiarity with the actor's portrayal, as well as emphasize he is just different enough from the Prowler from the previous film to be an alternate-dimensional counterpart.From the story perspective, Miles would likely be seeing Donald Glover's Prowler character as, well, The Prowler, or in some way that would be visually perceptible to him. Given Miles' lack of commentary on how the man's texture or other visual clues, it's safe to conclude he just sees him as something closer to how he looks visually, like a cartoon character. The writers COULD have chosen to have him look similar to how they drew Miles, yes, but using Daniel Glover in this way adds a bit of visual flair, and is mainly done in a way that doesn't make the story's internal logic fall completely apart since alternate dimensions exist.TL;DR This kind of thing is less of a point of discussion regarding how three-dimensional beings would interact in a two-dimensional space, and more of a visual flair added to the scene for the sake of the viewers' overall enjoyment.
>>151826823I hate the multiverse and a pox on Rick and Morty for popularizing it
>>151827899>TL;DR This kind of thing is less of a point of discussion regarding how three-dimensional beings would interact in a two-dimensional space, and more of a visual flair added to the scene for the sake of the viewers' overall enjoyment.Why can't they make it simple? Like wouldn't it be just easier to assume that it happened, and move on? I think the idea of him showing up is what made it exciting knowing it's "canon" (assuming the audience members thinks this is canon)>From the story perspective, Miles would likely be seeing Donald Glover's Prowler character as, well, The Prowler, or in some way that would be visually perceptible to him. Given Miles' lack of commentary on how the man's texture or other visual clues, it's safe to conclude he just sees him as something closer to how he looks visually, like a cartoon character. The writers COULD have chosen to have him look similar to how they drew Miles, yes, but using Daniel Glover in this way adds a bit of visual flair, and is mainly done in a way that doesn't make the story's internal logic fall completely apart since alternate dimensions exist.How did you figure this all out? That's amazing.
>>151827998>Why can't they make it simple? Like wouldn't it be just easier to assume that it happened, and move on? To be fair, from their perspective it IS simple. They wanted to appeal to consumers on a visual level by including a familiar element in their product, say a cameo, and that's as far as it goes for them.>How did you figure this all out? That's amazing.You just pick it up as you watch more media. In general, if a character in the medium doesn't call particular attention to an aspect that seems out of place to the viewer, then it's not necessarily as important as you think it is. If the writers wanted us to be clued in that Donald Glover's appearance looks unusual to Miles, he likely would have said something. He doesn't, ergo it's a safe assumption that Donald Glover looks normal to him.
I like how Daredevil is placed there as an implication that he’s from another universe. That’s how you know a Feige fanboy made that image. They shit their pants and cried for years the DD show wasn’t canon until it was officially confirmed that it is. I’m just glad we’re past that point in time.
>>151828375>They wanted to appeal to consumers on a visual level by including a familiar element in their product, say a cameo, and that's as far as it goes for them.I disagree. I think normal audiences will just assume it's canon and it's real. They're not going to overthink the entire situation that it's just a cameo and it never happened.>You just pick it up as you watch more media. In general, if a character in the medium doesn't call particular attention to an aspect that seems out of place to the viewer, then it's not necessarily as important as you think it is. If the writers wanted us to be clued in that Donald Glover's appearance looks unusual to Miles, he likely would have said something. He doesn't, ergo it's a safe assumption that Donald Glover looks normal to him.Anon I'm going to be honest with you. I don't think you know what the fuck you're talking about. You're just yapping beyond belief making shit up whatever is canon to you.
>>151828505>I disagree. I think normal audiences will just assume it's canon and it's realTrust me, audiences only think as far as "Oh cool, it's that famous actor from the MCU".>Anon I'm going to be honest with you. I don't think you know what the fuck you're talking about. You're just yapping beyond belief making shit up whatever is canon to you.Okay.
>>151828568>Trust me, audiences only think as far as "Oh cool, it's that famous actor from the MCU".It's mainstream movie slop but they're not that stupid. Whatever happens on the screen is what happened. You over-analyzing it is fucking crazy.
>>151828585No, my initial analysis was "It's just a visual cameo, don't overthink it". You're the one who demanded an explanation from the perspective of someone who live in the medium itself.
>>151828615>It's just a visual cameoMCU Prowler communicated with the protagonists of the film with a beginning and end. Scene end. It's an actual scene not just a visual cameo.>You're the one who demanded an explanation from the perspective of someone who live in the medium itself.Yeah well I got a 9-inch cock and I also live in the medium.
>>151828652Why the fuck are you being so defensive about your own damn question, anon? Are you twelve?
>>151828667>Why the fuck are you being so defensive about your own damn question, anon? Are you twelve?Projecting. I'm just discussing things what you would normally do on a message board forum. And I disagree with you. Simple.
>>151828722Look, you're the teenybopper who started a thread asking someone overexplain how a cameo of a living actor in a toon would be perceived in-universe, then got upset when someone actually did it. Don't go acting like this is just a "disagreement", you're the one upset over someone giving you what you asked for.
>>151828786I'm not upset. I just disagree with you and I think you're wrong. You're the one crying.
>>151828810Your own words>Yeah well I got a 9-inch cock and I also live in the medium.disagree with you
>>151828455>They shit their pants and cried for years the DD show wasn’t canon until it was officially confirmed that it is. I’m just glad we’re past that point in time.Man I must be living under a rock I thought that DD show has always been canon since day one
>>151828871It is but hardcore MCU movie plebbitors hate the pre-WandaVision tv shows specifically because Kevin Feige didn’t produce them. They still do this with Agents of Shield and claim it’s not canon or part of the MCU. They’re just fucking weird like that.
>>151829604The hate for Agents of SHIELD confuses me to this day. It's one of the best written parts of the MCU and is better than some of the movies. The worldbuilding it did for the MCU was fantastic. I'm convinced it was pushed by this weird cult of personality around Feige + people who never ever bothered to watch AoS and had a lot of erroneous misconceptions about the show
