Basically daddy's money is making the financing look more legit to the Warner Bros shareholders vs Paramount taking out loans. Still haven't raised their share price but did raise the termination fee over Netflix's if the merger doesn't happen.https://finance.yahoo.com/news/oracles-larry-ellison-agrees-to-backstop-404-billion-in-financing-for-paramount-acquisition-of-warner-bros-145133265.html?https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/larry-ellison-gives-404-billion-guarantee-paramount-bid-warner-bros-2025-12-22/
TWD
>>151828497Let's go Paramount
>>151828624you're too old to be posting on 4chan Larry
>>151828497Go get em, Paramount!
>>151828624>>151828662Look just take the L and try and come back for it a year or two from now after showing you can do a better job than pre-Skydance Paramount, ok
>so butthurt, he cried to daddykek, how fucking pathetic
>>151828497Come on Universal do your thing and put Netflix and Paramount in their place don't let those fuckers WB would be better in your hands.
>>151828497This faggot cannot take a "no" for an awnser? He also looks like a character from Haha, You Clowns
Getting quite sick of these rich dweebs.
>>151828624>>151828753>Thank you come again! What are you doing?! No! NOOOOOOOO! HOW CAN SHE SLAP?!?!?
>>151828497Yes, please, anything but Netflix
>fags care more about politics than WB’s theatrical and physical mediaParamount isn’t my first choice but it’s better than Netflix.>>151828778Universal/Comcast is a miracle. I want nothing more than for them to get it but it’s unlikely at this point.
>>151828914meant >>151828662
>>151828938This changes Netflix more than it does WB and causes fewer layoffs. There’s also the fact that Netflix cares more about prestige than Paramount.
>>151828919>Thank you come again!
>>151828938>Location: South Asia
>>151828497Jeeze his dad is even uglier.
They are simply trying to make Netflix go higher in price to damage their future expansion in spite Comcast did this with Disney when they were buying Fox. There is no downside making a competitor in a worse state
>>151828811He isn't the one pushing for the acquisition. It's his father the one that promised Trump to buy WB and transform CNN to his liking.
>>151829124>There is no downside making a competitor in a worse stateNetflix and Paramount don't play in the same ballpark. Paramount can only bid for WB because the insane amount of money that Larry Ellison has as the head of Oracle.
>>151828497The only person who wants the Netflix deal is Zaslav because it’s better for him.
>>151829135Why can't he just buy the cable channels only if that's the case
so who's the lesser of two evils between these 2 corpo's on our end?
>>151829308ParamountNetflix is fag central.
>>151829308I'm not even sure anymore, the Ellisons are evil and Netflix will kill off physical media faster. Whoever wins, we lose.
>>151829192Yeah it was reported his compensation package is in jeopardy if the shareholders go with Paramount over Netflix
>>151829308Me
>>151829308Somehow, it's Paramount.Netflix is the "so you want all western culture to die?" option. Streaming can't pay for itself, it's all investor funny money.
>>151829419Oh shit, Paramount deal is looking slightly less bad now. Fuck Shartslav.
>>151829308Well paramount is very pro israel and has been blacklisting actors who are pro palestine plus they are close friends with trump Meanwhile netflix is woke to the teeth, will kill off physical media and censored whatever old looney tunes hanna barbara cn episodes deemed too problematic for modern audiences, So none
>>151829308Paramount>MAGA >Trump cock suckers>zionists>will do $6 billion in layoffs>literally said they don't care about the art of movies>maybe we'll get some physical mediaNetflix>Woke>Democrat cocksuckers>zionists>will do $4 billion in layoffs >literally said they don't care about the art of movies>guarnteed to not do physical mediaParamount edges out microscopically
>>151829308We should be hating Netflix for them openly accepting AI, did everyone forget that?
>>151829499Did they? Also what makes you think Paramount won't? Paramount CEO's dad is the CEO of Oracle.
>>151829197Because it's also an IP grab. Larry wants the cable channels and David wants the Warners IP.
>>151829499All of these movie studios are going to do AI slop now. If Disney is doing it with little financial backlash, then expect Comcast Sony and Paramount to get in on the action too.
>>151829577That's the most depressing thing about this.
>>151829308Netflix because they're willing to throw money at projects that are critical successes without necessarily caring if they're commercial successes.That, to me, smells like stuff like DCSHG season 3 and a followup to The Day The Earth Blew Up.
>>151829308Paramount promises to keep theatrical releases and treat them as semi-autonomous. Netflix just wants to own Batman and Harry Potter.
>>151829697>DCSHG season 3The only people who care about this are people who worked on it so fuck yourself.
>>151829815I didn't work on it, I just wanna fuck Karen
>>151829795What about physical media?
>WGA and SAG contracts expire next year>Netflix was one of the main holdouts last time during negotiations >Christopher Nolan is the new head of the DGA (Directors Guild) and HATES Netflix>all these studios are doing AI slop which the creatives also hateGet ready for Hollywood to implode from a strike yet again
>>151829965Based Nolan, hope they push back on AI slop really hard.
>>151829541and warner needs to stay away as possible from shitflix
>>151828624>>151828662>>151830260Redditbob Flopped get fucked Ellison
>>151830336Who gives a fuck about Spongebob, its looney tunes and motherfucking batman who matters here
>>151829697>he thinks the company that cancelled multiple animated series in the early 2020's gives a shit about animationthey only care about making generic family CGI slop like Leo, anything else they put out is acquired by other studiosParamount also SUCKS ASS but they still fund 2d animated shows like Spongebob so I hate them less. Plus we all know what Netflix adult animation looks like. Cmon.
>>151830365>>151830392>Paramount cuck
>>151830570We love our AI slop don't we netflix sisters?
>>151830336The TMNT short in front of Spongebob was way better.
>>151829460This. The only thing I hope for is that either Netflix or Paramount end up going the way of AOL
Paramount cucks don’t see the big picture.I want Hollywood to burn, and Netflix winning actually does that.
>>151830955No one is gonna start watching weebshit if Hollywood just disappears
>>151831137That's because everyone's already watching weebshit
>>151831203lol, good joke
>>151829308That magically Apple wasn't turbo fucked by the tariffs and god emperor Trump didn't have them by the balls so they can bid for Warner.
>>151830392That was before Kpop Demon Hunters, an animated film, became the most successful Netflix production of all time.
>>151830955The world only have to gain from the death of american entertaiment
>>151831500Whatever you say paco
>>151829308Ellison/paramount/sky dance is right wing so them
>>151829308I hope Netflix wins it would be funny.
>>151831605Billionares don't care what party you are, you are all slaves.
>>151829499Netflix is already such slop that it makes no difference
>>151829308paramount didn't make cuties so they win
>>151831919Epstein damned both sides so irreparably that it's six of one
>>151829308>the lesser of two evilsthere is no such a thing when the two devils are equal but on opposite sidesthe best outcome is being a neutralCHAD
>>151830365>looney tunes>mattering more than spongebobsorry for stepping in but come the fuck on now
The Israelis are buying everything up to turn them into pro jew propaganda weapons.TikTok, CBS, now WB.
>>151830746>Namedrops ChatGPT which Oracle has a incestuous relationship with
>>151831424>That was before Kpop Demon Huntersbefore my ass. they wanted nothing to do with it>netflix productionit's not even that. it's exclusive to netflux, that's it. netflix gave away the rights and told them to produce it themselvesnext you are gonna say yokai watch is a nintendo production. fucking retard
Paramount is bad but Netflix is literal hell, anyone rooting for Netflix is anti-human
>>151832059Now??
>>151832059And CNN soon.
>>151832086Why? I think netflix is the best option for content accessibility.
>>151832204The Netflix that doesn't release any home media ever and pulls their own originals because fuck you?
>>151832204Idiot.
>>151831605Hes a zionist bagel fucker and will take WB to the island, so to speak, if je gets his rodent hands on it.We are all of us fucked and hollywood is dead now matter who gets it. Better get your dvds and hdds ready. Winter is coming.
>>151828811>Haha, You ClownsI still need to check that out. Is it any good?
>>151828497Come on, Comcast/NBCUniversal! Buy WB already!
>>151830336Don't forget, Slopbob was also fucked by Sydney Sweeney on opening weekend
>>151832248>Better get your dvds and hdds ready.Don't forget Blu-Rays
>>151832275>Is it any good?do you like clowns?
>>151831236No joke. American cartoons are fucked. If the out of touch cocksuckers at Nintendo made a traditional familt friendly LOTR zelda animated by ghibli or ufotable they would oen theaters for months.I cant think of a single American cartoon that woukd equal it. But they made more Hollywood fag shit thats going to get a quick money laund...totally organic real billion dollars that will bomb out of theaters.
>>151832336If they live in a society, that's for sure
>>151828497I blame Disney buying Fox for normalizing giant corporations cannibalizing each other
>>151832345Demon Slayer Castle was the most successful anime film of all time with about 700 million usd over its runZootopia 2 surpassed its entire box office gross in about 6 days
>>151832356Disney became more evil even before they bought 20th Century Fox
>>151832300
>>151832300Boobs
>>151829308Paramount will be israelslop and Netflix will be leftoidslop. I’d give a slight edge to Paramount only for their physical media and theater strategies.
>>151832384Oh you mean traditional Disney pr backed movie that took over theaters through stringarming beat a movie with 1/50 the budget was on streaming sites before it went worldwide and opened in not even half as many theaters?Really? REALLY?Okay.
>>151832231And do you think ANY other buyer is going to go through the trouble to do that? >>151832234Well why do you disagree? To me, netflix seems like the most likely to just shove everything they've got onto their streaming service, which is probably the most that we can expect any big corp to do.
>>151829499ALL big companies are championing AI. Some are just more quiet about it than others or outright lie if they say they don’t want to use it. CEOs will ALWAYS take the stance of firing the most employees they can to bloat their own paycheck.
>>151832384>Demon Slayer Castle was the most successful anime film of all time with about 700 million usd over its run>Zootopia 2 surpassed its entire box office gross in about 6 daysyou can thank china for thatjust don't let the china schizo heard it
>>151832432>B-butBut I thought American cartoons were fucked? I thought anime makes more than Hollywood fag shit?That is not the case any longer?
>>151832384Demon Slayer with a 20 million budget will be leagues more profitable than Zootopia 2 however.
>>151832448Netflix will use AI to push their objectively satanic bullshit. >>151832521Anon,if you have all of that in your favor and that is the best you have then you dont have anything.
>>151832394kek
>>151832300>I watch The Housemaid for the plot
I'm just depressed that this is the situation we're even in. Things looked bleak for a while but they keep getting worse and worse. It's hard not to doomspiral.
>>151829308>>151832635There is a third option of either merger not being allowed but it's like 0.1%
>>151832694That might as well be 0
>>151832070>netflix gave away the rights and told them to produce it themselvesAre you retarded?Were you missing when everyone called Sony giving Netflix KPDH for a song the biggest animation blunder of the century?
>>151829308Comcast/NBCUniversal
>>151832394based
>>151832718Why do people keep talking about them as if they're even in the game? Seems like copium.
>>151832718This is absolutely unlikely. They're just there orbiting around the whole situation, not all-and-all buying Warner.>>151832777This. Even Starz Media is just there taking Discovery away from Warner for the financing, while Netflix and Paramount have their own WB war together.
>>151832300Milkers.
It will strain some of you naggers to read all this, but here's Matt Levine explaining it.TrustIf you’re a normal person, most of your wealth is probably in your own name. But if you’re one of the richest people in the world, you probably have a lot more complicated estate and tax planning, which probably means that a lot of your wealth is in trusts, legal arrangements that your lawyers set up to hold assets for you. Most simply, you might have a revocable trust, where your assets technically belong to the trust but you have control over the trust’s assets, investment decisions, beneficiaries, etc. This can be useful for estate planning, but for most purposes owning assets in a revocable trust is pretty much like owning them yourself. I regularly say that Mark Zuckerberg owns a lot of shares of Meta Platforms Inc., or that Elon Musk owns a lot of shares of Tesla Inc., even though neither statement is exactly true. Their trusts own the shares. [1] But for most practical purposes you could think of, [2] they own them.
>>151832875This creates, I suppose, a small dumb problem. Let’s say you build big yachts and Mark Zuckerberg comes to you and asks to buy a billion-dollar yacht. Naturally he will pay you the billion dollars on completion of the yacht. You might ask him: “Well, do you have a billion dollars?” And he might say “no, actually I don’t. But The Mark Zuckerberg Trust owns like a bajillion dollars’ worth of Meta stock, and I control that, so I’m good.” You find that persuasive, so you pull up the yacht sale contract and — who do you put in as the buyer? [3] If you put “Mark Zuckerberg,” he has no money. If you put “The Mark Zuckerberg Trust,” it has plenty of money, now. But if it is a revocable trust, he can just take all the money (shares) out whenever he wants. It’s revocable! If he changes his mind about the yacht, he can clean out the trust. You’ll send the bill to the trust, but the trust will have no money, and you’ll be stuck with the yacht.Honestly this is a pretty easy problem to solve. You put “Mark Zuckerberg” in the contract: He doesn’t own the assets directly, but he controls the trust, so if he owes you a billion dollars you can make him take it out of the trust. (“The revocable trust does not provide asset protection.”) But maybe you’ll get confused, or he’ll get confused, and you’ll end up signing a contract with the trust. And then if he changes his mind, he can zero out the trust and stiff you.
>>151832384Now say "thank you China" because they're truly the ones who own your industry.China are the new big dogs who decide what lives or dies in Hollywood, and Amerimutts welcome that with open arms since China buckbroke their entire economy.
>>151832889I cannot imagine that this comes up a lot, with yacht builders or anyone else. Elon Musk once did sign a contract to buy Twitter Inc. for $44 billion, and then changed his mind and tried to get out of it. The fact that his wealth is mostly in a trust did not, at any stage of those proceedings, trouble anyone: He had signed his equity commitment in his own name, and everyone understood that if he was sued and lost he’d have to pay, with his trust’s money if necessary. (And Twitter did sue him, and he did pay.) Fine fine fine.On the other hand, Paramount Skydance Corp. is trying to buy Warner Bros. Discovery Inc., breaking up Warner’s deal to sell itself to Netflix Inc., and Paramount does not have nearly enough money to pay for Warner. Instead, much of the money behind the bid comes from Paramount’s chief executive officer’s dad, Larry Ellison, as of this writing the fifth-richest person in the world. Or rather it comes from his trust. And this would be one of the greatest tricks in the history of mergers and acquisitions:
>>151832899 >One major sticking point is Warner Bros.’ concern about the financing proposed by Paramount, which is led by David Ellison.>A big part of the equity is backstopped by a trust that manages the wealth of his father, software billionaire Larry Ellison. Because it’s a revocable trust, assets can be taken out of it at any time and Warner Bros. may have no recourse if that happens, the people said.
>>151828497I don't follow corporations that much. Why is one better and/or worse than the other?Either way I presume they want to buy to milk the IPs.Either way I presume they'll put out shitty products... though, to be fair, I can't remember what paramount has put out recently.
>>151832914Ahahaha sure. The risk here is:>-Warner throws over Netflix, pays it a $2.8 billion breakup fee, and signs a deal to sell itself to Paramount for something like $108.4 billion in cash. [4]>-For some reason — changing market conditions, regulatory difficulties, a change of heart by the Ellisons, or a change of heart by their co-investors — the Ellisons decide they don’t want to close the deal.>-Quietly, in the comfort of his own home, without saying anything to Warner, Larry Ellison takes all his stock out of the trust, leaving it empty. “Yoink,” he whispers to himself.>-“Oops, never mind,” Paramount tells Warner.>-Warner sues Paramount for “specific performance,” seeking to make it pay $108.4 billion and close the deal.>-“Lol we don’t have that kind of money,” says Paramount, which has a market capitalization of about $15 billion and about $3 billion in cash. “When we signed this deal, you knew that the money was coming from the Ellison trust.”>-So Warner sues the Ellison trust for specific performance, seeking to make it pay $108.4 billion ($40.7 billion of its own money, with the rest from its debt financing sources) and close the deal.>-“Lol we don’t have that kind of money,” says the Ellison trust. “We did, sure, but the trust got revoked.” “Yoink,” adds Larry Ellison, more loudly this time.>-So Warner sues Larry Ellison for the money.>-“Who, me?” says Larry Ellison. “You have no deal with me, I don’t even know what you’re talking about, this is not my problem.”
>>151832952This does not strike me as especially likely, and it would obviously be bad for Paramount and the Ellisons, [5] but I suppose it is possible, and it would be a pretty fun trick.Today Warner officially rejected Paramount’s bid, advising shareholders not to sell their shares in Paramount’s tender offer. Here is how Warner describes Larry Ellison’s commitment or lack thereof:>Despite PSKY’s headline claims, there is no equity commitment or backstop from the Ellison family for the Offer (and there never has been). Neither Mr. L. Ellison nor Mr. D. Ellison has agreed to personally guarantee or is in any way obligated with respect to the Offer – despite the fact that access to an extraordinary amount of their personal wealth is essential to close the Offer. For months, PSKY assured the WBD Board that the Ellison family would fully backstop the equity financing required for a transaction with WBD.>This commitment has never materialized. …
>>151832966>PSKY’s proposed “Ellison family backstop” is actually a commitment from the Revocable Trust, an opaque entity whose assets, liabilities, beneficiaries, terms, conditions and limitations are not publicly disclosed, and are subject to change. … PSKY has provided no information with respect to the terms or governance of the Revocable Trust, nor other liabilities it may have. A revocable trust generally has terms that would pose substantial risks to WBD stockholders. It is typical, for example, that a grantor of a revocable trust can remove assets from the trust; the terms of the trust can be amended to permit, or prohibit, certain transactions; the trust can be dissolved and its assets fully distributed, leaving a shell entity; the trust may incur significant liabilities; and other beneficiaries of the trust may have claims against the trust if it takes certain actions not in their best interests.
>>151832896>Insecure weeb going on about muh heckin mutts when he worships brownskinsLol fucking l
>>151832952>>151832966And Netflix is different how
>>151832980As far as I can tell, and somewhat bafflingly, this is correct: Paramount’s own tender offer (pages 33-34) says that the Ellison equity commitment and guarantee will be from The Lawrence Ellison Revocable Trust, not from Larry Ellison himself. The offer points out that the trust is rich — “The Ellison Trust has financial resources well in excess of what would be required to meet its financial obligations under the Equity Commitment Letter, including, among many other assets and financial resources available to it, record and beneficial ownership of approximately 1.16 billion shares of Oracle stock with a market value of approximately $252 billion as of the date of this Offer to Purchase” [6] — but, as the name says, it is revocable. This seems extremely fixable? Have Larry Ellison sign the commitments personally? William Cohan reports that the whole situation is “trains passing in the night,” and that “the Ellisons … believe they can still be sued for ‘specific performance’ to fund the deal”; he quotes a person familiar with their thinking saying that “there is no financing condition in the deal” and “Paramount and the Ellisons/RedBird, along with our lenders, are legally obligated to close regardless of future financial or business performance at Paramount.” That is not an impossible thought to convey in merger papers! And yet so far they apparently haven’t.END.
>>151832989That's not "thank you China."Say "thank you China."
>>151828497which company would be better for releasing stuff on physical media via the warner archive since that and keeping dc comics the publisher going is legit all i care about
>>151832993Netflix HAS the money, guaranteed.[1] Musk’s situation is slightly complicated in that he has big slugs of not-quite-shares — restricted shares, options — granted to him personally. Presumably when he eventually ends up with the underlying shares, he’ll transfer them to the trust.[2] Including US Securities and Exchange Commission beneficial ownership rules: Meta and Tesla report Zuckerberg and Musk as big shareholders, with the trusts mentioned only in footnotes.[3] There is some legal lore about whether a trust *can* enter into a contract, and the standard view seems to be that a trust is not a legal entity and so the contract has to be with the trustee — but the trustee can sign in his fiduciary capacity and not as an individual, making the trust (not the trustee) liable for performance.[4] That is the enterprise value in Paramount’s offer (equity value $77.9 billion). Paramount has nominally launched a tender offer for Warner, in which it could in theory buy all of Warner’s shareholders’ shares (and gain control of the company) without signing a merger agreement with Warner’s board. As we have discussed, though, this is not quite a real hostile tender offer, and is conditioned on, among other things, signing a merger agreement. One way or another, this deal has to end with a friendly-ish merger (with Netflix or Paramount), not a pure tender offer.[5] Paramount presumably *would* be on the hook for the deal, and in this circumstance you could imagine a bankrupting damages verdict against it. But, fun though it is, Paramount represents a teeny fraction of the Ellisons’ wealth.
>>151832997China is basedThey have a more successful animated film then the entirety of anime put togetherAnime is the biggest failure in animation history
>>151833013>Netflix HAS the money, guaranteed.How
>>151833018>China is basedAgreed, thank god they're destroying the west.
All I'm getting from this is that jews fucking suck and so does their legal/financial jew-jitsu.
>>151833029*destroying Japan
>>151833027It has lined up banks that will finance it. It has revenues of 10's of billions of dollars yearly, it CAN be sued to force the deal through at their offer, (as Elon was sued into buying Twatter).The trust backstopping the Paramount offer could be emptied at any time. The Ellisons themselves refuse to backstop the offer.lLiterally try reading the above.
>>151833069If Netflix and Musk can be sued then so can Paramount, you want me to believe that courts just honor this transparent kids' playground make-believe revocable trust bullshit, are there even any major precedents to this happening
>>151833091Sure you can sue Paramount, Matt mentions this. But Paramount's total value is a small fraction of the value of this deal, they literally do not have the assets themselves to buy WB.
>>151833114Then sue the Ellisons, like I said even kids would see through this bullshit, either name several precedents on this scale or fuck off
>>151833128THAT WAS THE POINT OF THE ARTICLEThe Ellisons themselves are not backstopping this deal, have been asked to and have not so far, only their Trust. Which can be zeroed whenever they want, SIMPLY, the Ellisons could fix this and backstop the deal themselves, but curiously won't. Which is why WB is advising shareholders to ignore their offer.Right now, there's no recourse to take legal action on the Ellisons if they were to get cold feet.
>>151832356I blame the Michigan Supreme Court for siding with Dodge in the 1919 case of Dodge vs. Ford Motor Company ordering that the Ford company had to be operated in the interests of shareholders and not the quality of the product or reinvestment of profits back into the company and its employees.I also blame Milton Friedman for being a piece of shit in the 1970s with his "The Social Responsibility of Business Is to Increase Its Profits" which was effectively saying "everyone who doesn't do as I say is a commie" like how school kids call each other gay.Both of these instances set the precedent for companies to be run by shareholders and not people actually invested in the products or services that the company provides.Maximizing profits is not profitable in the long run because short term gains are not sustainable gains, but the system is now rigged that companies are forced to peruse every short term gain for their shareholders, no matter how detrimental it is in the long run.
>>151833183>Both of these instances set the precedent for companies to be run by shareholdersAs God, the GOP and St. Reagan intended.
>>151833178Again either name precedents of courts honoring this blatant trickery on this scale or fuck off, this "I dindu nuffin" bullshit is so transparent even a traffic court would call it out >no your honor I wasn't driving the car that rammed into the police patrol it was my hands and feet that were driving I'm not guilty
>>151833228Anon, what he's saying is that they ARE seeing through this trickery and that's why they're not taking the deal.
>>151833228>trickery on this scaleDeals of this scale are rare.As far as billionaires suddenly ducking out, Elon tried his damnedest, with specious reasoning, but he himself was signed onto the deal and couldn't weasel out.For whatever reasons, the Ellisons refuse to put their own skin in the game.
>>151832345HAHAHAHAHAWeebs really are this delusional
>>151833250I'm saying that they should call their bluff like Twitter did with Elon, and that the COURTS should see the trickery and put the onus on Ellisons for honoring the deal >>151833257If it were that simple why didn't Elon just do the same
>>151831605>right wing>lesser of two evils
Oh and this>[6] Warner actually questions that, saying: “Contrary to PSKY’s assertions, the financial condition of the Revocable Trust is not publicly reported or disclosed; nor is it fixed. Although the Offer states that the Revocable Trust is the record and beneficial owner of a substantial amount of Oracle common stock, PSKY has not provided any evidence of this. The WBD Board also notes there is at least one other similarly named L. Ellison revocable trust, and there may be additional Ellison family estate planning vehicles, whose relationship to and assets compared with the Revocable Trust are unknown. The WBD Board has been advised that neither Oracle’s annual proxy statement, nor Mr. L. Ellison’s SEC filings on Schedule 13G with respect to Oracle common stock, disclose the Revocable Trust’s record or beneficial ownership of any Oracle common stock. Additionally, public disclosures by Oracle indicate that Mr. L. Ellison has already pledged a substantial portion of his Oracle common stock to secure other personal indebtedness.”
>>151833257>For whatever reasons, the Ellisons refuse to put their own skin in the game.Well of course why would they? They had Trump's nepo son-in-law and his puppeteers (Saudis) until they backed outNow the Ellisons are just throwing tantrums and are probably trying to sweet talk Trump into threatening everybody into making it happen
>>151833303Basically the revocable trust the Ellisons want to backstop this deal with is1. A Schrodinger's Cat, it may or may not contain all the billions2. It's contents can be emptied/transferred to a different box at any moment. *yoink*3. No you can't know what's in the box
>>151833340So why isn't ALL business done this way if it's that easy
>>151833340And because of all this:1. You can't sue the Ellisons, they aren't on the hook2. You can't sue an empty revocable trust for a lot 3. You could sue Paramount, but it's worth MAYBE $15 billion total, so it will just bankrupt and you don't get much out of that.You would want to sue the Ellison Family, as Elon was sued, but you cannot.
>>151832606>retarded weeb is also an incelpredictable
>>151833360It's NOT easy, and I don't think a Revocable Trust has been used to attempt a hostile takeover (and certainly not at this scale).It reeks of Shenanigans.
>>151833396So it's all made up bullshit with no basis in reality then
>>151833360See>Elon Musk once did sign a contract to buy Twitter Inc. for $44 billion, and then changed his mind and tried to get out of it. The fact that his wealth is mostly in a trust did not, at any stage of those proceedings, trouble anyone: He had signed his equity commitment in his own name>in his own nameThat's the key part that's missing
>>151833433But if he wanted to eventually get out why would he sign it in his name, if evading it was as easy as Ellisons are making it out to be
>>151833410The ;legal reality is that the Ellison's equity commitment to this deal is an opaque box that may contain $0 to billions in Oracle stock (no you cannot look in the box), and if they pull out of the deal, you can only sue the empty box.That's the legal reality, and the case WB, NOT Netflix is making to shareholders.
>>151833474It's such a legal reality that there is no actual precedent to someone successfully ducking out of a big contract by putting the blame on an empty box
>>151833452Because Elon is a fucking druggie who got high on his own supply.All the billionaires want to have the same cult following that Steve Jobs had.
>>151828755This, what the fuck does Larry have to do with this? His son owns Skydance-Paramount. Rank nepotism.
>>151833452Because he's not terribly smart. The offer to buy Twatter was a massive troll on the board of Twatter, and he honestly believed he could get that far and then "Nevermind" out of it.Then Twatter hired expensive lawyers to teach him otherwise.THEN as the new owner of Twatter, Elon was obligated to PAY those lawyers who sued him their massive fees.Because he's a dumbass.aaHis case to the shareholders for buying Twatter was "I will get rid of all the Bots". Then he tries to weasel out of his meme 420 offer, saying "I was going to buy it, but it's full of Bots". Kek!
>>151833452Because Elon is fucking retarded?
>>151828811DSL though
>>151832300is she high why is she squinting the whole time?
>>151832345>>151832432>>151832606
>>151833483Look around. Think why he may be attempting this right now, specifically.
>>151833736In maybe 10 years it will dawn on some of MAGA's marginally self-aware fans that the entire "Awoovement" was led by Self-absorbed Grabblers, Grifters for Clicks, Corrupt Opportunists and some True Retards with literal brain worms.Who found it altogether easy to "Say the Words" and rake it in.
>>151832606>will useAlso>AIImplying others won't>objectively satanic bullshitImplying others won't
>>151829308Paramount, in my opinion. Regardless of the politics recently. Netflix has an awful tract record of making garbage, being garbage and isn't even a real Hollywood studio/company.
>>151833966I feel like people should look up who Larry Ellison is before jumping to the idea that having him in control of most of our media is even halfway worth entertaining.
>>151834153These are people who would consider blowing up the hydroelectric dam that would destroy their hometown if it "would cause Libruls to be angry".
im surprised of the number of protests saying NO to hydroelectric dams
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>>151834534>>151834624>>151834489Isn't Hydro one of the few actually green energy sources?And not too bad for the environment unless you leave tree-stumps in the reservoir because it's cheaper, like Canada did.
>>151834720they say that dams are bad for fish ecosystems and soil erosion
>>151834179I genuinely understand the "burn the community to feel the fire's warmth" feeling (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5apctD-cG4), but I've also dealt with sociopaths before and know how that shit turns out when you make the mistake of aligning with them for perceived mutual interest. You're just fodder for the meat grinder that only exists because they do.
>>151834743Coal's bad, solar's bad, wind farms are bad, hydro's bad, nuclear's bad.What's left? thermal?
>>151834823that and whatever the hell this ishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUzLcbiImWY
>>151829895They said they'll keep WB autonomous, but didn't really say anything about physical media or even anything about the Warner Archive
>>151834720>>151834743Hydro destroys the areas that are flooded. They sustainable but you do have to make calculated sacrifices. But it's really just accelerated change since many of those areas would be changed over time by evolving waterways.Wind farms are fine. Solar is fine and is the future. Nuclear is absolutely horrible but it's probably a good idea to have a few per area-the-size-of-the-US as emergency backup (even then, security concerns are high).I don't understand the visceral hate people have for renewables (save nuclear). If we'd moved toward them when Carter wanted to, every war and much of the suffering that's happened in the last quarter-century+ wouldn't have.
>>151828497They should just split Warner Brothers in half and give Paramount and Netflix half of the IPs.
>>151829308Paramount. The Netflix buyout is at least guaranteed to be the end of physical media by killing the Looney Tunes blu rays.
>>151829308The Saudis were the best case, no one gets fired, status quo-ish choice.
>>151828497>>151828624>Paramount taking out loans.At this point, Paramount will be fucked. Then again it's been fucked ever since Trump's hillbilly pals took over it. Fuck Trump and Fuck Ellison
>>151835028Nuclear is 'bad' because hippies and NIMBYs keep blocking waste storage sites and the development/constuction of safer alternatives like Thorium.
>>151836070There's no safe place to store the waste.
